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RIGHT.YOU ALL SET? YOU ALL SET, MIKE? WE'RE ALL ALL RIGHT.
I WILL CALL THIS MEETING OF THE PUBLIC SAFETY COMMITTEE TO ORDER NOW.
FOR ATTENDANCE, SUPERVISOR CONRAD IS EXCUSED, OTHERWISE EVERYBODY IS PRESENT.
UH, NOTICE OF THIS MEETING WAS, WAS POSTED AND THE AGENDA WAS POSTED BY THE COUNTY CLERK'S OFFICE.
IN ACCORDANCE WITH ALL APPLICABLE LAWS, WE WILL RISE FOR THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE.
I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS, ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVIDUAL WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL.
OKAY, I NEED A MOTION TO APPROVE THE CONSENT AGENDA.
SUPERVISOR MILLIKEN, SUPERVISOR TOMA.
ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT THE CONSENT AGENDA? OKAY, SEEING NONE.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF APPROVING THE CONSENT AGENDA SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.
WITH THAT, UH, WE WILL TURN THINGS OVER TO JOSH FOR THE REMAINING AGENDA, WHICH IS THE CHIEF ELECTED OFFICIALS MEETING UPDATE.
UM, JUST WANTED TO GIVE YOU AN UPDATE ON KIND OF EVERYTHING THAT'S HAPPENING WITH THE CHIEF ELECTED OFFICIALS AS REGARD TO THE FIRE AND EMS WORK IN PARTICULAR, UH, IN ADDITION TO THE EMERGENCY PREPAREDNESS POSITION THAT WAS PART OF THE BUDGET.
UH, ALL THESE THINGS KIND OF WORK TOGETHER, SO I THOUGHT IT WAS GOOD TO GIVE, GIVE YOU AN UPDATE.
AND I'M ASSUMING AT SOME POINT YOU'LL BE GETTING QUESTIONS FROM YOUR LOCAL MUNICIPALITIES OR LOCAL FIRE COMPANIES AS REGARD TO WHERE WE'RE AT.
UM, FEW THINGS TO, TO TOUCH ON FIRST.
UH, AS, AS YOU PROBABLY KNOW, UM, THE, THE PROCESS OF THE FIRE AND EMS STUDY, UM, REALLY HASN'T HAPPENED IN EARNEST.
UM, WE'RE REALLY WAITING ON GETTING THE CHIEF PUBLIC SAFETY OFFICER AND EMERGENCY PREPAREDNESS DIRECTOR, UH, IN PLACE BEFORE GETTING TOO FAR DOWN THE ROAD.
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UM, NOT TO SAY THAT WE WON'T PUT OUT RFP AND THINGS LIKE THAT, UM, BUT THAT PERSON, THAT INDIVIDUAL, I THINK IS GONNA BE CRITICAL.JUST LIKE DAVE BARBER WAS IN THE EWM TASK FORCE WORK, AND JAMIE HAS BEEN IN THE AG LISTENING DISCUSSIONS.
UM, I THINK THOSE ARE, THAT'S AN IMPORTANT POSITION TO BE ABLE TO HELP FACILITATE THIS DISCUSSION.
I TELL FIRE CHIEFS ALL THE TIME, I TELL CHIEF ELECTED OFFICIALS ALL THE TIME, YOU KNOW, I DON'T REALLY KNOW MUCH OF ANYTHING ABOUT FIRE AND EMS, UH, SO I DON'T, I DON'T KNOW WHAT QUESTIONS TO ASK.
UH, I DON'T KNOW HOW TO DETECT BSS.
UH, SO I'M GONNA RELY ON WHOEVER THAT PERSON IS IN THEIR EXPERIENCE TO HELP DO THAT.
UM, IN ADDITION TO THAT, AND AND DIRECTLY ALIGNED WITH THAT IS THE CREATION OF, UH, THE TASK FORCE TO, TO DO THIS WORK.
UM, THAT HAS BEEN A, A HEFTY PART OF THE DISCUSSION OF THE CHIEF ELECTED OFFICIALS.
WHAT THAT TASK FORCE LOOKS LIKE SPECIFICALLY.
UM, THE DESIGN OF THE TASK FORCE IS LIKELY TO END UP AROUND NINE INDIVIDUALS, THREE CHIEF ELECTED OFFICIALS.
UM, ALTHOUGH IT'S KIND OF LIKE ONE OF THOSE MOMENTS WHERE EVERYBODY STANDS IN A LINE AND EVERYONE STEPS BACK EXCEPT A COUPLE PEOPLE, AND THEN THEY REALIZE THEY'RE THE ONES WHO ARE CHOSEN.
UM, BUT THREE CHIEF ELECTED OFFICIALS.
HOPEFULLY SOME DIVERSITY IN TERMS OF, UH, REPRESENTATION FROM TOWNS, VILLAGES, AND CITIES.
UM, AND THEN THREE CITIZEN MEMBERS.
UH, SO JUST AT LARGE, FRANKLY, IF THEY DON'T KNOW A LOT ABOUT FIRE AND EMS, IT'LL PROBABLY MAKE IT A LITTLE BIT EASIER BECAUSE WE WANT SOMEBODY WHO'S ABLE AND WILLING TO ASK THE, WHAT MIGHT SEEM LIKE A SILLY QUESTION, BUT MIGHT MAKE EVERYBODY STOP AND GO, OH, YEAH, WAIT A MINUTE, WHAT ABOUT THAT? UM, AND THEN THREE REPRESENTATIVES FROM FIRE EMS AND FIRE TRAINING OFFICERS.
EACH ONE OF THOSE GROUPS HAS AN ASSOCIATION.
UM, SO WE'RE GOING TO REACH OUT TO THEM INDIVIDUALLY, UH, HAVE ONE REPRESENTATIVE FROM EACH OF THOSE ASSOCIATIONS.
UM, CERTAINLY THE FIRE CHIEFS WHO YOU'VE ALL HEARD FROM, UH, AT THE PRESENTATION HERE.
UH, BUT EVEN IF YOU ASK THE FIRE CHIEFS, UH, IF YOU WANNA HAVE A DISCUSSION ABOUT SOMETHING, YOU BRING IN THE FIRE CHIEFS.
IF YOU WANNA GET SOMETHING DONE, YOU BRING IN THE FIRE TRAINING ASSOCIATION FOLKS.
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UM, SO HAVING A REPRESENTATIVE FROM THERE, AND THEN OBVIOUSLY EMS, UH, WHICH IS A HUGE PART OF THAT.UM, SO HAVING THAT TASK FORCE PUT TOGETHER, PROBABLY SOMETIME BY THE MIDDLE OF JANUARY.
I WAS HOPEFUL TO GET IT BEFORE THE HOLIDAYS, BUT IT'S JUST NOT REALISTIC.
UM, GET IN TOUCH WITH EVERYBODY.
EVERYBODY'S SUPER BUSY RIGHT NOW.
SO, UM, OUR HOPE IS TO GET THAT TASK FORCE IN PLACE, UM, SOMETIME IN THE FIRST PART OF THE YEAR, UH, TO GET THE JOB DESCRIPTION AND THE JOB POSTING OUT PROBABLY IN THE NEXT FEW WEEKS, BUT RECRUITING IN EARNEST SOMETIME IN JANUARY.
UH, IDEALLY HAVE SOMEBODY IN PLACE IN THE, UM, EMERGENCY PREPAREDNESS DIRECTOR ROLE, UM, IN THE FIRST QUARTER OF 2024, UM, OR VERY EARLY IN THE SECOND QUARTER, UM, AND REALLY BE RUNNING IN EARNEST ONCE THE, THE NEW COUNTY BOARD IS SWORN IN, NEW ELECTED OFFICIALS AND ALL THE DIFFERENT MUNICIPALITIES.
SO, UM, THINGS ARE ON A, ON A GOOD TRACK.
UM, BUT, YOU KNOW, WE'RE NOT, WE'RE, WE'RE NOT MOVING CRAZY FAST.
WE'RE MOVING GOVERNMENT FAST, SO THAT MEANS WE'RE MOVING SLOW.
UM, I DO HAVE A COPY OF, UH, THE JOB DESCRIPTION FOR THE EMERGENCY PREPAREDNESS DIRECTOR FOR YOU.
YOU CAN CERTAINLY TAKE IT, TAKE A LOOK AT IT, IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, CERTAINLY ASK.
UM, IT, IT IS VERY MUCH IN LINE WITH WHAT WE HAD IN THE ANTI-CRIME PLAN.
UH, THAT WAS OUR, KIND OF OUR GOAL.
ALONG, UH, YOU'LL NOTICE WE, WE DO REFERENCE CHIEF PUBLIC SAFETY OFFICER, BUT THE PRIMARY JOB IS THE DEPARTMENT HEAD ROLE OF EMERGENCY PREPAREDNESS DIRECTOR, SIMILAR TO HOW AARON DAHL IS THE BUDGET POLICY, UH, AND, AND ANALYTICS DIRECTOR.
AND THEN HE ALSO HAS THE RESPONSIBILITIES OF CHIEF ADMINISTRATIVE OFFICER.
SO, UH, YOU'LL PROBABLY, YOU, I'M SURE YOU'LL NOTICE THAT.
UH, AND AGAIN, IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ON THE JOB DESCRIPTION, PLEASE FEEL FREE, UH, TO FOLLOW UP AND GET IN TOUCH WITH ME OR LONNIE.
UM, AM I MISSING ANYTHING? I DON'T THINK SO.
ANY QUESTIONS WHERE, EXCUSE ME.
WHERE IN THE, WHERE WAS, DOES THAT POSITION FALL WITHIN THE ORGANIZATION AS FAR AS EMERGENCY PREPAREDNESS? IS THAT WHAT YOU'RE ASKING? THE EMERGENCY, THE NEW POSITION, LIKE, YOU KNOW, IS THAT HOW THAT'S BEING INSERTED WITH, YOU KNOW, WHERE THE EXISTING POSITIONS? YEAH, SO IT'LL BE A DEPARTMENT HAVE LEVEL POSITION, UM, AND ELEVATED BECAUSE OF THE CHIEF PUBLIC SAFETY OFFICER.
SO IT'LL BE ONE OF FIVE, UH, CABINET MEMBERS, SO TO SPEAK.
AND ALL THAT REALLY MEANS IS THE FACILITATOR BETWEEN A STANDING COMMITTEE AND THE COUNTY EXECUTIVE'S OFFICE.
SO THE, LIKE YOU PROBABLY, MAYBE YOU DON'T REALIZE THIS, BUT EVERY OTHER COMMITTEE IN THE COUNTY ON THE COUNTY BOARD HAS A DEDICATED, UH, DEPARTMENT HEAD WHO FACILITATES ALL THE AGENDA WORK, ALL OF THE BUDGETS, ALL OF, UH, BASICALLY EVERY ITEM THAT COMES BEFORE YOU, THEY'RE KIND OF THE MIDDLE PERSON THAT THIS IS THE ONLY COMMITTEE THAT DOESN'T HAVE THAT.
THIS WILL PROVIDE FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO HAVE THAT.
UM, BUT THE POSITION REPORTS DIRECTLY TO MY OFFICE, TO ME DIRECTLY.
UM, AND THEN, UM, WE ALSO HAVE THE EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT COORDINATOR, UH, ROB SCHMIDT, WHO'S WITH US TODAY.
UM, ROB'S VERY MUCH THE BOOTS ON THE GROUND, IF THERE'S ANYBODY YOU NEED TO TALK TO IN THE EMERGENCY.
WELL THAT, NOT EVEN EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT, PUBLIC SAFETY SPACE.
UH, ROB PRETTY MUCH KNOWS 'EM BY THEIR FIRST NAME.
SO I WOULD SAY, SAY THIS INDIVIDUAL IS MORE, UM, 160,000 FEET.
AND, UH, ROB'S JOB IS VERY MUCH A, UH, LIKE I SAID, BOOTS ON THE GROUND.
UM, SO THEY WILL, THEY'RE OFFICE BASED TBD, UM, BUT ORGANIZATIONALLY IT'S UPPER MANAGEMENT.
OTHER QUESTIONS? OH, ONE MORE.
WHAT'S THE, DID YOU REALLY GIVE A, DO YOU HAVE A ETA OF WHEN YOU REALLY THINK THAT POSITION WILL BE FILLED OR ARE YOU IN THE ADVERTISING STAGES AT THIS POINT OR, WE JUST WRAPPED THE JOB DESCRIPTION.
UM, THIS LIKE LATE LAST WEEK, EARLY THIS WEEK.
UM, SO WE SHOULD BE GETTING IT POSTED WHETHER WE POSTED, YOU KNOW, ON EITHER SIDE OF CHRISTMAS OR NOT, I DON'T KNOW.
BUT, UM, WE'LL GET IT POSTED AND THEN, YOU KNOW, SIX WEEKS OF PROBABLY ADVERTISING OR SO, UM, ANOTHER SIX WEEKS BEFORE SOMEBODY CAN ACTUALLY GET IN THE DOOR REALISTICALLY.
SO THAT'S WHY I'M THINKING MARCH-ISH FOR, FOR THE COMMITTEE TO BE FORMED WITH THAT COMMITTEE.
I, I THINK THOSE WILL RUN, THOSE WILL RUN IN TANDEM.
I'M ALMOST THINKING THE TASK FORCE IS THE ONE WHO DRAFTS THE RFP, WHICH, YOU KNOW, WE'LL CERTAINLY HAVE YOU GUYS TAKE A LOOK AT.
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ALL OF THAT IS KIND OF OUT THERE.NOW WE'RE SEARCHING FOR A CONSULTANT OR WHATEVER AT THE SAME TIME AS THIS PERSON IS EITHER BEING RECRUITED OR WE'RE WAITING TO GET THEM IN THE DOOR, I THINK.
SO THERE'S MORE PARALLEL IN THAT? I THINK SO.
'CAUSE I'M WORRIED IF WE WAIT UNTIL ONE AFTER THE OTHER.
I MEAN, THIS'LL BE, I MEAN, THIS TIME NEXT YEAR BEFORE WE GET ANYTHING ACTUALLY DONE,
SO I, IT, I SUPPOSE IT'S POSSIBLE.
BUT, UM, I'D, I'D REALLY LIKE THAT COMMITTEE TO MEET FOR THE FIRST TIME IN JANUARY, AT LEAST MEET EACH OTHER AND SEE THE JOB DESCRIPTION AND UNDERSTAND WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO ACCOMPLISH.
WHAT, WHAT'S HAPPENING OUT IN THE COMMUNITY IS PEOPLE, I MEAN, NOBODY KNOWS, INCLUDING MYSELF.
SO THEY'RE JUST JUMPING TO CONCLUSIONS.
LIKE I'VE HEARD SEVERAL TIMES, FOR EXAMPLE, WHILE GETTING NOMINATION PAPERS.
WELL, THE COUNTY'S JUST GONNA TAKE OVER FIRE AND EMS LIKE, WHOA, LIKE NO
AND NO INTEREST IN DOING THAT.
IT'S NOT THAT WE WON'T BE INVOLVED, I THINK WE CERTAINLY WILL BE INVOLVED.
WHAT I HAVE NO CLUE WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE, WHICH IS LITERALLY WHY WE'RE HIRING SOMEBODY FROM OUTSIDE OF THE STATE.
UM, 'CAUSE MY GUESS IS THAT THIS MODEL ISN'T GONNA BE ANYTHING THE STATE'S FAMILIAR WITH, WHICH IS WHY I JUST THINK IT'S GONNA TAKE, I CAN'T IMAGINE WE'RE GONNA GET THIS DONE IN ANYTHING LESS THAN SIX MONTHS, REALISTICALLY.
I WOULD SAY FOR TO SET EXPECTATIONS SIMILAR TO HOW THE SAMARITAN TASK FORCE WORKED, HOW THE UWM TASK FORCE WORKED.
I MEAN, LET'S HOPE IT'S NOT 18 MONTHS LIKE THE UBM TASK FORCE, BUT, UM, I THINK THERE'S EVERY REASON TO BELIEVE WE'RE GONNA LOOK AROUND THE COUNTRY.
AND IN THE CASE OF SAMARITAN, I MEAN, WE DROVE TO OHIO, SO I THINK THAT'S POSSIBLE.
YOU KNOW, SEND A GROUP OF PEOPLE TO, I DON'T KNOW, WHEREVER THE MODEL IS, MISSOURI, AND SAY, WHAT THE HECK'S WORKING DOWN THERE AND WHY CAN'T WE DO THAT UP HERE? I THINK THE KEY POINT YOU JUST TOUCHED ON, WE'RE NOT STARTING WITH AN END IN MIND.
WE'RE STARTING WITH A PROBLEM AND NEED TO LOOK FOR POTENTIAL SOLUTIONS.
AND I THINK THAT NEEDS TO BE ANY OF YOUR COMMUNICATIONS WITH FIRE CHIEFS OR EMS PEOPLE.
I MEAN, THEY NEED TO KNOW THAT.
LIKE, I, THE THING THAT I THINK IT MAKES IT EVEN MORE COMPLICATED IS WEST BEND, THE CITY OF WEST BEND IS OPERATING IN A DIFFERENT UNIVERSE FROM THE REST OF THE COUNTY.
LIKE THEY HAVE, THEY'RE THE ONLY TRULY FULL-TIME, UH, DEPARTMENT.
THEY'RE THE ONLY TRULY FULL UNIONIZED DEPARTMENT.
THEY JUST ADDED NINE NEW POSITIONS.
I THINK PARAMEDICS THE ONLY, AND IT'S JUST DIFFERENT.
NOBODY ELSE HAS QUITE, HAS THAT.
AND YOU HAVE EVERYTHING FROM, YOU KNOW, FIRST RESPONDERS IN FILLMORE ALL THE WAY TO PARAMEDICS, UH, FULL-TIME UNIONIZED IN WEST BEND.
I MEAN, IT'S JUST A DIFFERENT UNIVERSE.
I THINK THE HARDEST THING IN THIS DISCUSSION'S GONNA BE MANAGING PEOPLE'S EXPECTATIONS.
YOU CAN'T, YOU CAN'T LIVE IN TOWN OF AARON OR IN BOONVILLE AND EXPECT TO HAVE A PARAMEDIC IN THREE MINUTES.
AND, YOU KNOW, EVERYBODY'S GONNA PAY.
I MEAN, IT JUST COSTS MONEY TO DO THIS WORK, BUT IT'S JUST NOT REAL REALISTIC EXPECTATION.
SO I, I THINK EXPECTATION MANAGEMENT, BOTH OF THE CONSTITUENCY, BUT PROBABLY ALSO OF FIRE AND EMS CHIEFS, YOU KNOW, EVERYBODY WANTS THE BEST AND THE BRIGHTEST AND THE SHINY WHISTLES ON THE LADDER TRUCKS, BUT YEP, THEY DON'T WANT TO PAY FOR IT.
OTHER QUESTIONS, COMMENTS, CONCERNS? ALL RIGHT, THANK YOU.
THANK, AND THAT'S OUR LAST AGENDA ITEM.
SO OUR NEXT MEETING IS WEDNESDAY, JANUARY 17TH, 2024 AT 7:30 AM AND WE WILL STAND ADJOURNED.