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FIVE.

IT'S OFFICIALLY SEVEN

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30.

SO WE'LL CALL THIS MEETING OF THE WASHINGTON COUNTY LAND USE AND PLANNING COMMITTEE TO ORDER.

UH, ROLL CALL.

MR. BERG IS EXCUSED.

MR. GALL IS HERE.

MR. SALICK IS HERE.

MR. ICK IS HERE.

MR. MARY IS HERE.

MR. DOORKNOCKER HAS NOT AS YET ARRIVED.

THIS MEETING WAS POSTED IN ACCORDANCE TO ALL OF THE PROTOCOLS, UH, WITH THE APPROPRIATE MEDIA AT THE APPROPRIATE TIMES.

AT THIS TIME, PLEASE, WE'LL STAND FOR A MOMENT OF SILENT MEDITATION AND THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE.

I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS, ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE.

ALL THANK YOU EVERYONE FOR COMING.

BECAUSE WE HAVE PUBLIC HEARINGS TODAY, WE'LL HANDLE THOSE ITEMS IMMEDIATELY AND SEPARATELY, SO THERE'LL BE SOME REDUNDANCY OF THE PROCEDURES WE GO THROUGH.

UH, SO WE'LL START OUT WITH PUBLIC HEARING.

A THE CLERK WILL READ THE NOTICE.

[a. 7:30am Public Hearing – Conditional Use Permit – 5609 Kenny Drive LLC c/o Michael & Jennifer Keough – West Bend]

NOTICE IS HERE WRONG.

ONE NOTICES HEREBY GIVEN THAT A PUBLIC HEARING WILL BE HELD AT A MEETING OF THE WASHINGTON COUNTY LAND USE AND PLANNING COMMITTEE IN ROOM 10 19 OF THE WASHINGTON COUNTY GOVERNMENT CENTER.

4 3 2 EAST WASHINGTON STREET, WEST BEND, WISCONSIN.

ON THURSDAY, FEBRUARY 15TH, 2024 AT 7:30 AM THERE WILL BE, THERE WILL BE HEARD AND CONSIDERED THE PETITION OF 5 6 0 9 KENNY DRIVE, LLC CARE OF MICHAEL AND JENNIFER KEO FOR A CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT FOR ASSOCIATED FILLING, GRADING AND EXCAVATING OF GREATER THAN ONE ACRE WITHIN 300 FEET OF THE ORDINARY HIGH WATERMARK OHWM OF, OF BIG CEDAR LAKE FOR FILLING, GRADING, EXCAVATING FOR A NEW RESIDENTIAL DWELLING AND ASSOCIATED LANDSCAPING STORM WATER AND EROSION CONTROL IN THE SHORELAND WETLAND AND FLOOD ZONING DISTRICT LOCATION.

THANK YOU.

UH, WE'LL DECLARE THIS PUBLIC HEARING OPEN.

ARE THERE ANY COMMENTS FROM THE AUDIENCE? IF SO, YOU REMINDED TO KEEP YOUR COMMENTS TO THREE MINUTES OR LESS AND IDENTIFY YOURSELVES AS YOU APPROACH THE MICROPHONE.

ANY FROM THE AUDIENCE WITH ANY COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS? YES.

MISS, UM, I WAS NOT INCLUDED IN THE LETTER, SO I DON'T KNOW IF I CAN SPEAK.

SPEAK.

YEP, YOU FINE.

OKAY.

GO AHEAD.

JUST MAKE SURE YOU STATE YOUR NAME AND YOUR ADDRESS.

OH, OKAY.

IDENTIFY YOURSELF AND WHERE YOU'RE FROM.

OKAY.

I'M LANA VOIGHT.

I LIVE AT 56 37 KENNY DRIVE.

UM, UH, WE, THERE'S A CULVERT RUNNING FROM THE PROPERTY AND THE PROPERTY.

I'M HERE ABOUT 56 0 9 I THINK IT IS.

THERE'S A CULVERT THAT RUNS CONTINUOUSLY FROM THAT PROPERTY TO MY PROPERTY.

AND LAST YEAR WE HAD AN ISSUE WITH SOME FLOODING AND I THINK THERE'S A, I THINK THE CULVERT IS COMPROMISED, BUT IT'S NOT ON MY PROPERTY, SO I CAN'T DO ANYTHING ABOUT IT, BUT I'M JUST CONCERNED THAT WHEN THEY GRADE THIS PROPERTY, IT MIGHT COLLAPSE THE CULVERT MORE OR FILL IT IN OR DO SOMETHING AND I, I'M JUST CONCERNED WITH IT.

ALRIGHT.

THAT'S ALL.

OKAY.

THANK YOU MA'AM.

ELSE? YEAH.

OKAY.

YEAH.

OKAY.

SO MAKE SURE YOU IDENTIFY YOURSELF.

I'M KURT ROIS WITH ROIS CUSTOM HOMES.

I WILL BE BUILDING THE HOUSE TO ADDRESS THE CONCERN THAT YOU HAVE.

THERE IS A DRIVEWAY PERMIT FOR THAT.

THE CULVERT IS, WE'VE SURVEYED THE CULVERT, I'M SORRY, WE'VE SURVEYED THE CULVERT, UH, WITH ELEVATIONS PLACEMENT, EVERYTHING OF IT.

IT'S A 18 INCH CULVERT THAT IS ONLY A FEW INCHES BELOW THE ASPHALT THAT WILL BE COMING OUT PER THE DRIVEWAY PERMIT THAT WE'VE BEEN WORKING WITH DAVE LINDER AND PAUL WITH, TO BE ABLE TO PUT A NEW CULVERT IN THERE.

IT IS NOT LEVEL AS IT IS, IT'S LOWER ON THE NORTH END.

UH, RIGHT NOW THERE'S ABOUT SIX INCHES OR OF CLEAR WHERE WATER IS DRAINING, UM, WHERE IT'S NOT FILLED UP THE CULVERT ON THE NORTH END.

SO WHEN THERE'S MORE, WHEN THERE'S HIGHER WATER TABLE THROUGH THERE, IT POTENTIALLY COULD HAVE BLOCKED IT UP.

WE ARE PUTTING THIS, UH, NEW CULVERT IN LEVEL AT THE SAME HEIGHT AS THE HIGHER END AND A HIGHER ROAD OVER A, A, A CRUSHED STONE OVER THE TOP OF THE EXISTING DRIVEWAY.

AND THEN A BINDER COURSE OVER THE TOP OF THAT TO GET MORE STRUCTURAL FILL OVER THE TOP OF THE NEW CULVERT AND TO BE ABLE TO SET IT IN THERE AT THE EXACT SAME HEIGHT, BUT LEVEL TO PREVENT AND REDUCE EVEN MORE THE CHANCES OF IT.

BACKING UP, DO YOU FEEL CONFIDENT THAT THIS WILL, THE FIX WILL RESOLVE THE SITUATION WITH THE NEIGHBOR? OKAY.

CAROL, THERE'S NO, NO, NO QUESTIONS TO THE, SORRY PUBLIC.

UH, JUST TO CONTINUE ON WITH THAT, UH, I, I THINK IT WILL BE A, IT'S

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A BETTER SOLUTION THAN WHAT'S IN THERE BECAUSE IT'S A, A MORE STABLE CULVERT AND A, AND A LARGER, THICKER BED OF, UM, PROTECTION OVER THE TOP OF THAT CULVERT.

SO, UH, IT, CAN I CHANGE THE WATER TABLE OR WHAT HAPPENS AND SNOW MELT AND STUFF LIKE THAT TO HER PROPERTY? NO, BUT WHAT WE CAN DO WITH THIS IS A LOT BETTER THAN WHAT IT IS IN THERE AND IT'S LOOKING AT THE LONGEVITY OF THE ROAD, BRINGING IN HEAVY EQUIPMENT TO GET IN THERE, AND THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE WANTED TO ADDRESS PROACTIVELY VERSUS HAVING IT COLLAPSE, YOU KNOW, WHEN THE FIRST CONCRETE TRUCK GOES THROUGH.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR COMMENTS AND EXPLANATIONS, SIR.

ALL RIGHT, THANK YOU.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS FROM THE AUDIENCE? HEARING NONE THEN WE'LL DECLARE THIS HEARING IS BEING CLOSED.

WE NEED A MOTION AND A SECOND FROM THE COMMITTEE, PLEASE FOR DISCUSSION PURPOSES.

MR. SALICK? MR. GALATZ, ANY QUESTIONS, GENTLEMEN? UH, I HAD A QUICK QUESTION.

YES, SIR.

UM, I'M SORRY.

UM, DO, DO YOU KNOW, IS HER HOME NORTH OF THIS? IS THAT WHERE IT'S, IS THE HOME OR PROPERTY NORTH OF THIS? MY MR. SIEBEL, MY PROPERTY? UM, I WILL, I WILL GLADLY MEET WITH LANA AFTER THIS.

THE, UH, CULVERT THAT IS BEING REPLACED IN THE DRIVEWAY IS NOT ASSOCIATED WITH THE CULVERT THAT SHE'S TALKING ABOUT.

THIS IS THE DRIVEWAY FURTHER SOUTH.

UM, SO THE ONE THAT SHE'S TALKING ABOUT AND I KNOW THE SITE VERY WELL 'CAUSE I'VE MET WITH LANA SEVERAL TIMES, UM, AND BEEN ON THIS SITE AS AS WELL.

SO IT'S NOT GONNA IMPACT THAT.

THE GRADING AND STUFF THAT'S IN THERE IS HER CULVERT ENDS IN A WETLAND THAT'S NORTH OF THIS DRIVEWAY THAT ACCESSES THIS SITE NORTH.

YEAH.

YEP.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? HEARING NONE WILL VOTE.

WE'VE GOT A MOTION AND A SECOND TO APPROVE THE CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT.

ALL IN FAVOR TO SAY, AYE.

I MISS HOLD.

HOLD A SEC.

UM, WHAT'S SOME RECOMMENDATIONS? WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THOSE ARE INCLUDED IN THE MOTION.

I AM SORRY SIR.

THERE'S RECOMMENDATIONS THAT ADMINISTRATION OH YES, YES.

HAD GIVEN, I WANT TO ENSURE THAT THOSE ARE INCLUDED IN THE, UH, CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT.

OH YEAH, YEAH.

THEY WERE ONE, TWO, AND THREE.

UH, A TRACK PAD EROSION CONTROL PRACTICES MAINTAINED AND PROVIDED AS BUILT IN SURVEY, FINAL GRADE, ET CETERA.

YES.

THOSE WILL BE INCLUDED IN THE ORDINANCE OR THE, UM, CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT.

THANK YOU.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.

AYE.

OPPOSED? THE CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT IS GRANTED.

MOVING ON TO PUBLIC HEARING B, THE CLERK WILL READ THE NOTICE.

PLEASE

[b. 7:31am Public Hearing – Rezone a portion of the County’s Floodplain Zoning District – 2314 E. Belfast Lane in the Town of Erin]

NOTICE, NOTICE IS HEREBY GIVEN THAT A PUBLIC HEARING WILL BE HELD AT A MEETING OF THE LAND WASHINGTON COUNTY LAND USE AND PLANNING COMMITTEE IN ROOM 10 19 OF THE WASHINGTON COUNTY GOVERNMENT CENTER.

4 3 2 EAST WASHINGTON STREET, WEST BEND, WISCONSIN.

ON THURSDAY, FEBRUARY 15TH, 2024 AT 7 31 THERE WILL BE HEARD AND CONSIDERED THE PETITION BY CHERYL AND SCOTT OLBERG, PROPERTY LOCATION, POINT OF SOUTHWEST, NORTHEAST PLUS NORTHWEST SOUTHEAST TOWN OF AARON, SECTION SIX DASH T THREE DASH 0 0 9 3 0 H REZONE A PORTION OF THE FLOODPLAIN OF WASHINGTON COUNTY.

DECLARE THIS PUBLIC HEARING OPEN.

ARE THERE ANY COMMENTS OR QUESTION? COMMENTS FROM THE AUDIENCE PLEASE REGARDING THIS PARTICULAR PROPOSAL? HEARING NONE, I WILL DECLARE THE HEARING IS CLOSED.

I NEED A MOTION AND A SECOND FROM A COMMITTEE MEMBER TO BRING THIS FOR DISCUSSION.

PLEASE.

MR. GALL.

MR. ICK, ANY QUESTIONS PLEASE? UH, NO.

UM, OTHER THAN IT APPEARS THAT IT IS NOT EVEN FEMA AND, AND OTHER, SO IT SEEMS REASONABLE HEARING DONE THEN WILL VOTE TO THE REZONING PETITION.

PETITION.

ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.

A AYE.

OPPOSED PETITION IS GRANTED PUBLIC HEARING NUMBER C THE CLERK WILL PLEASE READ THE NOTICE.

THANK YOU.

NOTICE

[c. 7:32am Public Hearing – Rezone a portion of the County’s Shoreland-Wetland Zoning District – 3170 State Highway 60 in the Town of Polk]

IS HEREBY GIVEN THAT A PUBLIC HEARING WILL BE HELD AT A MEETING OF THE WASHINGTON COUNTY LAND USE AND PLANNING COMMITTEE IN ROOM 10 19 OF THE WASHINGTON COUNTY GOVERNMENT CENTER.

4 3 2 EAST WASHINGTON STREET, WEST BEND,

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WISCONSIN.

ON THURSDAY, FEBRUARY 15TH, 2024 AT 7:32 AM THERE WILL BE HEARD AND CONSIDERED THE PETITION BY CAN INVESTMENT LLC PROPERTY LOCATION POINT OF SOUTHEAST SOUTHWEST CSM 2073 DASH TOWN OF POLK, SECTION 13 DASH T NINE DASH FIVE 16 C REZONE A PORTION OF THE SHORELAND WETLAND ZONE OF WASHINGTON COUNTY.

ARE THERE ANY COMMENTS FROM THE PUBLIC ON THIS ISSUE? I DECLARE THE HEARING OPEN.

ANY COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS FROM THE PUBLIC? HEARING? NONE.

WE'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION AND A SECOND.

YOU GOTTA CLOSE, YOU GOTTA CLOSE THE HEARING.

I'M SORRY.

CLOSE THE HEARING, HEARING NONE, NO QUESTIONS.

WILL ACCEPT A MOTION AND A SECOND FROM THE COMMITTEE TO OPEN FOR DISCUSSION.

MR. GALLES? MR. BIALEK, ANY COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS? UM, MR. GALLES? I DO.

I I THINK I RECALL THIS FROM 2019.

I WAS TRYING TO GO THROUGH MY, MY NOTES, BUT UM, SO HOW DID THE DELINEATION BACK IN 2019 MISS, OR WHAT CHANGED IN THE DYNAMICS THAT THE WETLANDS NOW IS BEING RE DELINEATED AND WHAT LEVEL OF ASSURANCE DO WE HAVE THAT THAT IS ACTUALLY FACTUAL SINCE WE SAW A MISSTATEMENT IN 2019? THAT'S WHAT I'M CONCERNED ABOUT.

THE ACCURACY YEAH.

CAN ADDRESS IT.

EXCUSE ME.

I CAN TRY.

UM, SO WETLAND DELINEATION IS NOT AN EXACT SCIENCE.

THEY GO OUT THERE AND THEY, THEY TAKE A PROBE OF THE SOILS, DETERMINE THE SOILS, THEY MOVE OVER 20 FEET, TAKE A PROBE OF THE SOILS, LOOK AT THE VEGETATION.

THEY MAKE THEIR DETERMINATION ON WHERE THAT LINE IS GONNA KIND OF, I MEAN THERE'S, LIKE I SAID, THERE'S NO EXACT LINE IN THE SAND THAT YOU CAN FOLLOW.

UM, SO WHEN ONE PROJECT HAD IT IN 2019, THEY DID A REZONE.

THEY OR THEY ASKED FOR A REZONE.

THEY CAME HERE, THEY GOT THAT APPROVED, THAT WHOLE PROJECT.

I THINK THE OWNERSHIP, NOT SURE WHAT CHANGED THERE, BUT THAT WHOLE PROJECT FELL APART.

SOMEBODY NEW GRABBED IT AND SAID, HEY, LET'S MAKE A NEW PROPOSAL.

WELL THERE'S WETLANDS OUT HERE, WE BETTER GET ANOTHER DELINEATION.

SOMEBODY CAME BACK OUT, REDID THE LINE AGAIN.

IT'S NOT EXACT LINE IN THE SAND KIND OF THING.

SO THEY REDID THE LINE AND THEY LOOKED AT THE MAPS AFTER THE FACT, I THINK, AND THEY SAID, OH, OUR LINES DON'T MATCH.

SO THEY FOUND MORE WETLANDS THE SECOND TIME.

UM, WHAT I THINK MIGHT BE MISSING FROM YOUR PLANS, UM, IS MAYBE THE MAP OR THE DETAILS OF EXACTLY THE SITE.

SO, AND THEN WHEN WE MET WITH THEM, UM, WE ALSO TALKED ABOUT THEIR NEW PLANS.

SO THERE WAS A LITTLE POINT HERE THAT THEY DIDN'T ORIGINALLY DELINEATED AS WETLANDS AND THIS WAS THE ORIGINAL, UM, OH, I'M SORRY.

THE SHADED PART WAS THE ORIGINAL DELINEATION.

UM, AND THEN THEY ACTUALLY FOUND A LITTLE TINY, TINY TRIANGLE HERE THAT SAYS, OKAY, THAT'S THE NEW DELINEATED AREA.

UM, SO THEN WHEN WE MET WITH, SO IT PART CONTINU AS TO WHAT WAS RIGHT WHEN, ALRIGHT.

YEP.

THAT THANK YOU FOR THAT.

YEAH.

BECAUSE I WOULD'VE BEEN CONCERNED IF IT WAS SOMEWHERE ELSE ON A PROPERTY.

RIGHT.

SO THEN ALSO IN OUR DISCUSSION IT'S LIKE, OKAY, YOU WANNA DO THIS BUILDING IN THE CENTER, YOU HAVE A 25 FOOT SETBACK REQUIREMENT FROM WETLANDS, SO WHY DON'T YOU FILL AND REZONE THAT 25 FEET? SO YOU DON'T WANNA ACTUALLY HAVE TO COME AND GET A REZONE AND THEN GO TO A BOARD OF ADJUSTMENT AND GET A VARIANCE SETBACK FROM THE BOARD OF ADJUSTMENT.

SO TRYING TO DO IT ALL THE SAME ONE.

SO THEY ADDED AN ADDITIONAL 25 FOOT BORDER BASICALLY AROUND THE BUILDING APPLIED TO DNR, GOT THAT WETLAND FILLED FOR THAT.

SO IT'S GONNA BE BASICALLY BACK SLOPED, YOU KNOW, FILLED UP TO THAT PART.

BUT THAT WHOLE PART GETS REZONED.

THIS IS PEOPLE THAT CONFIRM MY MEMORY.

'CAUSE THIS WAS WHAT I THOUGHT DOWN ON THE BOTTOM, UH, THAT IS A RETENTION DETECTION POND.

IS THAT CORRECT? UH, IT, IT'S NOT A RETENTION POND, IT'S JUST A POND THAT THEY DUG DECADES AGO.

OKAY.

IT WASN'T DESIGNED FOR ANYTHING FOR THAT WAS THE PROPERTY THEN THAT CAME IN.

THANK YOU.

YEP.

YEAH, I, BASED UPON THE DNR REVIEW AND OUR APPROVAL AND THAT I, I HAVE NO CONCERN.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? HEARING NONE, HEARING NONE WILL VOTE ON THIS.

THE PETITION TO AMEND THE WETLAND ZONING DISTANCE FOR THE APPLICANT'S.

ALL IN FAIRNESS SAY AYE.

AYE.

AYE.

OPPOSED? THEN THE PETITION IS GRANTED.

WE'LL MOVE ON TO THE CONSENT AGENDA, WHICH INCLUDE THE MINUTES IN THE JANUARY 18TH MEETING

[3. Consent Agenda]

AND THE PAYMENTS TO STALE GRAIN FARMS. A MOTION IN THE SECOND PLEASE, MR. M**K? MR. ALEK, ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.

AYE.

AYE.

AYE.

OPPOSED? THANK YOU.

DISCUSSION ITEM IN THE GOLF QUARTERLY REPORT PLEASE.

[a. Golf Quarterly Report]

UH, ANY QUESTIONS? I'M SORRY.

ANY

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QUESTIONS? YEAH, I DO.

OH, SORRY.

I, YOU CAUGHT ME TALKING TO LONNIE.

NO, THAT'S OKAY.

MM-HMM.

, UH, UH, JUST A QUICK QUESTION ON THE, UH, ON THE COMPLETE 2050 PLAN IMPROVEMENTS, UM, UH, PRIORITIZING AND COSTING ADDED PLAYER AMENITIES, CAN YOU ELABORATE A LITTLE BIT ON WHAT YOU'RE CONSIDERING? SURE.

SO WHAT HAPPENED WAS LA WHEN WE ADOPTED THE 2050 PLAN, WE WENT THROUGH THE EXERCISE OF PUTTING EVERY MAINTENANCE ITEM, LET'S CALL 'EM EQUIPMENT, UM, KIND OF STATUS QUO TYPE STUFF IN OUR 2050 PLAN.

SO AS WE'RE LOOKING AT THE CASH POLICIES AND HOW THAT'S GOING, WE'RE KIND OF TAKING A SECOND LOOK AT THAT PLAN FOR MORE, UH, INVESTMENTS IN THE COURSE AND PLAYER AMENITY ADDITIONS.

SO, AND PRICING AND COSTING SO THAT THE COMMITTEE AND THE COUNTY BOARD CAN HAVE A CONVERSATION ABOUT, YOU KNOW, WHAT THOSE INVESTMENTS ARE, UM, THINGS THAT WEREN'T NECESSARILY INCLUDED IN THAT ORIGINAL 2050 PLAN.

SO IT'S THINGS LIKE EXPANSION OF THE CLUBHOUSE, UM, UH, NICER RESTROOMS ON THE TURN PIT BATHROOMS. UM, THESE ARE JUST, THESE ARE JUST EXAMPLES.

NONE OF THESE DECISIONS HAVE BEEN MADE.

UM, BUT REALLY KIND OF TAKING A HARD LOOK AT WHAT WOULD BE CONSIDERED IMPROVEMENTS OR THE, THE ON THE COURSE PLAYER HOLES.

UM, CRAIG'S NOT ON THE CALL, UM, BUT WHEN WE GET A LITTLE FARTHER IN THIS ITEM, HE WILL, WE WILL HAVE HIM COME FORWARD AND WE'LL TALK THROUGH THE 2050 PLAN AND THE CASH BECAUSE THEY GO TOGETHER, RIGHT? HOW MUCH CASH DO WE HAVE AVAILABLE? WHAT DO WE ADD TO THE PLAN AND WHAT DO WE POTENTIALLY TAKE AS SOME OTHER SOURCE AND, AND OR SAVE BECAUSE WE'RE GONNA BE LOOKING AT THOSE THRESHOLDS, RIGHT? SO THAT IS IT, IT'S WITHIN THAT CONVERSATION OF, UM, WHAT, WHERE DO WE WANT OUR SAVINGS ACCOUNT DOLLAR THRESHOLD TO BE VERSUS INVESTING BACK IN THE COURSE VERSUS, UM, GIVING IT BACK.

NO, I UNDERSTAND.

SO YOU'RE WAYS AWAY FROM, FROM SPECIFICS IS WHAT YOU'RE SAYING AT THIS POINT? YES.

GOTCHA.

MR. GOLET, SIMILARLY, UH, MR. LUDOVIC, UH, UP ABOVE ABOUT THE CASH BALANCE POLICY.

SO, UM, WILL THAT, YOU KNOW, COME BEFORE THE END OF THE YEAR TO THIS COMMITTEE? TO, UM, IT, WHEN YOU SAY BEFORE THE END OF THE YEAR, ARE YOU REFERRING TO BEFORE THE END OF THIS SESSION? WELL, 12 31 20 24 IS THE EXPECTED, UH, DUE DATE.

SO, I MEAN, I THINK THAT WAS SUPPOSED TO BE 1231 OF 2025.

NO, 2024.

YES.

CORRECT.

YEAH, BEFORE THE END OF THE YEAR IS OUR TARGET FOR A CONVERSATION.

OKAY.

IT MIGHT, IT IT'LL PROBABLY ALIGN WITH ONE OF THOSE WINTER MEETINGS NEXT YEAR OFF SEASON.

SO THAT, WOULD THAT INCLUDE SIMILAR TO LIKE A PERCENTAGE? NOT IN LIKE THE, THE COUNTY'S, UM, TARGETED PERCENTAGE FOR, UM, UH, BALANCE? CORRECT.

AND, AND THE, THE PRELIMINARY ANALYSIS IS THAT WE'RE NOT HOLDING AS MUCH CASH AS WE WILL WANT TO HOLD FOR THE COURSE WHEN WE ISSUE DEBT FOR THE IRRIGATION SYSTEM BASED ON BEST FINANCIAL PRACTICES.

SO THE CONVERSATION ABOUT, YOU KNOW, FINANCIAL PRACTICES VERSUS, UM, RISK, YOU KNOW, AND, AND THE APPROPRIATENESS OF HOW MUCH DO WE WANT TO HAVE IN OUR BANK IS REALLY THAT CONVERSATION THAT MORE FOR CAPITAL PROOF NOT TO COVER, UH, EBB AND FLOW OF CASH FLOW, BOTH.

OH, OKAY.

SO BASED ON MONIES THAT WE'RE, UH, PUT IN BEFORE WE REALLY GET COURSE FEES AND WHATNOT COMING THROUGH.

MM-HMM.

, YEAH.

THE GFOA RECOMMENDS 40 TO 60% OF YOUR OPERATING BUDGET PLUS TWO YEARS OF ANY DEBT SERVICE AS WHAT YOU SHOULD SHOOT FOR.

AND I THINK WE'RE AT ABOUT 35% OF OUR OPERATING.

SO THOSE ARE ROUGH.

DON'T HOLD ME TO THAT.

IT FLOWS, BUT IT'S, WE'RE NOT QUITE HOLDING AS MUCH CASH, BUT NOW WHETHER WE WANT TO BE THERE OR NOT, BECAUSE IN WHOLE THAT, THAT'S A CONVERSATION I THINK FOR THIS GROUP AND THE COUNTY BOARD.

THANK YOU.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? WE'LL ENTERTAIN A VOTE FOR THE APPROVAL OF THE CONSENTED SEARCH.

NO VOTE.

ALL RIGHT.

THAT'S RIGHT.

ALL RIGHT.

THE NEXT MEETING DAY WILL BE THURSDAY, MARCH 21 AT 7:30 AM I WILL NOT BE ABLE TO ATTEND THAT DAY.

PLANS FOR CHAIRING THE EVENT AND THE AGENDA WILL BE TAKEN CARE OF PRIOR TO WE ARE ADJOURNED.