* This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting. UP LATE. [00:00:01] AND ONE PERSON WHO'S EXCUSED WILL STAND IN FOR A MOMENT OF PRAYER. AND, UH, PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE. I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE, ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS, ONE NATION UNDER INDIVISIBLE WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL. OKAY, WE SHOULD PROBABLY STATE FOR THE RECORD THAT I'M SITTING IN BECAUSE SENT AGENDA, EVERYBODY LOOKED OVER TO MINUTES FROM LAST MONTH. I MAKE A MOTION TO SECOND. I MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE. SECOND. SECOND MOTION BY SUPERVISOR NEWMAN. SECOND. BY BY. DO I CALL YOU CHAIRMAN? SCH LIFE? ? NO. ALL NOT, NO, NOT REALLY. . AYE. ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE. AYE. AYE. ANY OPPOSED? MOTION CARRIES. UH, DISCUSSION ITEMS. UH, TRANSIT QUARTERLY REPORT. UH, MR. CHAIR, IF I MAY, UH, YOU'LL SEE THAT THIS MONTH THE, UH, THE, THE WCC ANALYSIS, UH, TRANSIT OPTIONS IS COMPLETED. WE HAD TO DO SOME POLICY ADJUSTMENTS TO REMOVE WCCE FROM CERTAIN POLICIES THAT WE HAVE, AND THAT'S NOW BEEN COMPLETED. OKAY. SOUNDS GOOD. ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? SEE NONE. UH, TRANSIT RIDERSHIP REPORT DOWN [a. Transit Quarterly Report] A LITTLE BIT, BUT SEEMS LIKE THEY'RE STILL BUSY. IT'S, IT'S THE FIRST MONTH OF THE YEAR. WE'RE DOWN A LITTLE BIT. WE DID HAVE A, A SNOW DAY OR TWO IN THERE, IF YOU RECALL. MM-HMM. . UH, SO WE DID, UH, HAVE TO SHUT DOWN EARLY ONE DAY AND START LATE THE NEXT. UH, SO THAT, UH, [b. Transit Ridership Report] IMPACTED OUR RIDERSHIP A LITTLE BIT. SO, UH, WE'LL BE CONTINUING TO MONITOR THAT. IT'LL BE IN HERE AND WE'RE LOOKING AT MAYBE MODIFYING THIS REPORT TO GIVE YOU A LITTLE BIT MORE DATA THAN JUST ONE NUMBER A MONTH. UH, BUT KIND OF SPREAD OUT TO SEE WHERE ARE THOSE DRIVER RIDERS ACTUALLY RIDING? WHEN ARE THEY RIDING, I SHOULD SAY. UH, SO IF WE HAVE A DECISION POINT WE MADE IN THE NEXT BUDGET CYCLE OF SHOULD WE REDUCE ANY HOURS? SO YOU CAN START KINDA LOOKING AT THE NUMBERS A LITTLE BIT MORE, MORE IN DEPTH, UH, AND PROBABLY JUST PUT SOME GRAPHS OR SOMETHING AT THE BOTTOM OF THIS PAGE. SO KEEPING IT TO ONE SHEET, UH, TO PROVIDE INFORMATION. AND IF, UH, AFTER APRIL NEW COMMITTEE WANTS SOMETHING DIFFERENT, WE'LL CERTAINLY BE ABLE TO PROVIDE THAT. DO WE ALSO KEEP A TALLY ON HOW MANY CROSS THE COUNTY LINES? YES, A HUNDRED PERCENT, YES. WE'VE ACTUALLY HAD A MEETING WITH OZAKI COUNTY EARLY THIS WEEK TO DISCUSS THAT, THAT VERY THING. SO WE'RE WORKING WITH THEM. IF YOU REMEMBER, PART OF THE MOU WAS, UH, THAT IF ONE, DON'T QUOTE ME AN EXACT LANGUAGE, BUT IF ONE COUNTY SEES MORE OF THE BURDEN VERSUS THE OTHER, THEN THEY CAN SEEK COMPENSATION FROM THE OTHER. SO WE'RE TRYING TO WORK ON, YOU KNOW, THAT'S A PRETTY VAGUE CONCEPT AND SO WE'RE TRYING TO WORK ON WHAT DOES THAT EXACTLY MEAN. SO WE HAD A MEETING TO LOOK AT THAT AND WE GOT SOME OF OUR NUMBERS. WE AVERAGE ROUGHLY ABOUT A 140 A MONTH. UH, THEY AVERAGE, UH, ROUGHLY 200 A MONTH. UH, SO IF YOU WANNA DO THE MATH THAT WAY, AND YOU COULD BREAK IT DOWN BY DAY IF YOU REALLY WANTED TO, BUT THAT'S THE KINDA ROUND NUMBERS THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT. SO THERE'S MORE COMING IN HERE, UH, COMING FROM OZAKI TO WASHINGTON THAN GOING BACK. WE KNOW IF THERE ARE MEDICAL ROUTES AND EMPLOYMENT AND ALL THAT STUFF. SO THAT'S DATA. WE, ONCE WE START WORKING WITH USOC A LITTLE MORE CAN SHARE, UH, WITH BECK WITH THE COMMITTEE, WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE. UH, IT REALLY COMES DOWN TO, YOU KNOW, WHERE ARE WE DRIVING, IF THEY'RE DROPPING EVERYBODY OFF IN NEWBURGH AND WE'RE GOING ALL THE WAY OVER TO THE LAKE IN PORT WASHINGTON, IT'S OBVIOUSLY COST US A LITTLE BIT MORE, EVEN THOUGH WE HAVE LESS RIDES. UH, BUT IT COULD BE OPPOSITE WHERE THEY'RE TAKING EVERYBODY OVER TO HARTFORD AND HAVE 200 RIDES AND WE'RE DROPPING EVERYBODY OFF IN CEDARBURG. SO THAT'S WHAT WE'RE KINDA LOOKING AT AND WORKING THROUGH WITH THEM. DOES THE MOU HAVE AN ANNUAL ANNIVERSARY OR WHAT MONTH? MORE OR LESS? IT JUST, YEAH, IT, IT HAS CAUSED US TO TERMINATE, BASICALLY. SO IT JUST KEEPS GOING UNTIL ONE OF THE TWO COMMUNITIES DECIDES NOT TO DO IT ANYMORE. AND THEY HAVE A, A NOTICE PERIOD IN THERE. THAT'D BE INTERESTING TO KNOW, LIKE IF, IF PEOPLE ARE USING IT TO GO TO EMPLOYMENT, YOU GOT 200, YOU ONLY GOT 140 GOING BACK, BUT YOU'D JUST BE KIND OF INTERESTING TO SEE THEM THAT THE INFORMATION THAT YOU SAID YOU HAVE YES. IF YOU'D YOU THEIR MEDICAL OR WORK OR WHATEVER, JUST YES. IF, IF YOU'D LIKE NEXT MONTH, UH, WE CAN PRESENT THAT IN A, IN A FORMAT AND THEN YOU CAN LOOK AT THAT FORMAT. IF THERE'S SOMETHING DIFFERENT YOU WANT, WE CAN ADD IT RIGHT TO THIS PART OF THE REPORT IF YOU'RE OKAY. UM, NOT DO A SEPARATE REPORT, BUT JUST ADD THE DATA RIGHT TO HERE. UM, WE HAD OUR S MAP, ALL THOSE LOCATIONS 'CAUSE WE HAVE A T LATITUDE AND LONGITUDE WHERE THEY'RE GOING, SO WE KNOW WHERE THEY'RE GOING AND WHERE THEY'RE COMING FROM. SO THAT'S, WE'RE WORKING ON GETTING THAT DATA TOO FROM ZAKI. SO I JUST THOUGHT IT WOULD BE A LITTLE CLOSER THAN THAT. THE NUMBERS THEY, YOU KNOW. RIGHT. WELL WE'RE ALSO, IT'S SOFTWARE AND MAKING SURE WHAT NUMBERS WE'RE GETTING OUT ARE CORRECT AND WHAT NUMBERS THEY'RE GETTING OUT ARE CORRECT. SO IF THAT'S WHAT I SAY, WE'RE KIND OF WORKING THROUGH DATE A LITTLE BIT JUST TO MAKE SURE IT'S ALL CORRECT. ALSO, THE FIRST OF THE YEAR, IS THAT WHEN THE RATE [00:05:01] ADJUSTMENTS WENT INTO PLAY FOR WASHINGTON COUNTY? YES. YES. DO YOU THINK THAT'LL, I MEAN, OBVIOUSLY JANUARY IS A LITTLE DOWN, YOU GOT THE ONE SNOWSTORM DAY, BUT I'M WONDERING, I GUESS WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO KEEP AN EYE AND SEE IF THAT EFFECT IS GONNA CONTINUE DOWN THROUGH THE, THROUGH THE MONTHS. YES. AND, AND IF YOU RECALL, WE, WE DID SAY THAT, UH, AT SOME POINT, NOT AFTER THE FIRST MONTH, BUT AFTER TWO TO THREE MONTHS, WE WOULD START PROVIDING DATA TO SEE HOW MANY WERE ADULT FAIRS BEFORE AND HOW MANY WENT FROM ADULT TO EL YOU KNOW, ELDERLY, DISABLED. UH, RIGHT NOW THE NUMBER'S LOW, IT WAS 11. UH, AND WE, WE DO KNOW SOME OF THEM WERE IN THE WRONG CATEGORY. THEY ARE ELDERLY OR DISABLED BECAUSE BEFORE IT DIDN'T MATTER. UH, SO WE KNOW A HANDFUL OF THOSE, SO WE'RE, WE'RE CHECKING ON THOSE. BUT I THINK THAT'S A, A PRETTY LOW NUMBER WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE, THE GRAND SCHEME OF THINGS GOING. YEAH, THERE'S A, A HANDFUL OF PEOPLE THAT, THAT CHANGE CATEGORIES. UH, BUT, BUT NOT AN OVERWHELMING AMOUNT. SO I THINK MOST ARE DUE DILIGENCE AND SOME OF THOSE WE DO KNOW, THEY WERE PROBABLY NOT PUT IN THE RIGHT CATEGORY. THEY WERE JUST ADULTS AND MAYBE THEY DIDN'T WANT TO ADMIT TO BEING ELDERLY, DISABLED. UM, BUT YOU KNOW, ONCE THE FAR INCREASE AND CHANGE CAME, THEY DID THAT. SURE. UNDERSTOOD. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? I THINK IT'S SAFE TO SAY, I MEAN, THE COUNTY HASN'T HAD AN INCREASE. SO WHAT WAS IT, 10 YEARS? I THINK IT WAS OVER, YES. 10 YEARS. 2012. UH, TAXI SERVICE THAT I OVERSEE OUTSIDE OF HERE, HISTORICALLY, EVERY TIME YOU HAD AN INCREASE, YOU WOULD SEE A SLIGHT DECLINE FROM IT. IT WAS EXPECTED, SO, RIGHT. THAT, THAT WOULD, DOESN'T SURPRISE ME RIGHT HERE AS WELL. IT'S JUST BEEN A LONG TIME. YEAH. I I THINK IT WAS WELL OVERDUE. YEAH. THE LONG CHART YOU HAVE 2012 ISN'T EVEN ON IT. SO, BUT WHAT'S INTERESTING TO SEE IS THE FIRST INITIAL EFFECT, YOU KNOW, STICKER SHOCK, RIGHT? BUT THEN ONCE THEY GET OVER THAT YOU WONDER IF THE NUMBERS WILL COME BACK UP, WHICH I WOULD KIND OF EXPECT, SEE NO OTHER QUESTIONS. THEN WE'LL MOVE ON TO THE AMTRAK EXPANSION UPDATE AND THEY'RE STILL CONSIDERING COMING THROUGH. UH, IS THAT SOMETHING YOU'RE GONNA SPEAK ON OR IS THAT JUST WE READ AND I, I CERTAINLY CAN. UH, I WANNA FIRST OF ALL, THANK UH, UH, DEB ZEKI AND ADAM, UH, CHRISTENSEN FOR CREATING THE, THE REPORT FOR [c. Amtrak Expansion Update] US TODAY. UH, I APPRECIATE THEIR, UH, CONTINUING VIGILANCE, KEEPING UP ON THE, THE AMTRAK SITUATION THAT'S OUT THERE. UH, WHAT WE WANT TO DO IS GET THIS IN FRONT OF PUBLIC WORKS RIGHT NOW BECAUSE WE KNOW IT'S COMING DOWN AND THERE MIGHT BE A POLICY DECISION OR SOME DECISION TO BE MADE LATER ON DOWN THE ROAD TO MAKE SURE THAT YOU'RE AWARE OF IT, NOT JUST ALL OF A SUDDEN, OH, HERE IT IS. LET'S, LET'S MAKE A DECISION. SO WE'RE GONNA TRY TO KEEP YOU APPRAISED OF THE, THE SITUATION, UH, AS IT, AS IT UNFOLDS AND MOVES FORWARD. SO, UH, BEFORE, UH, YOU MAY, MAY OR MAY NOT RECALL, UH, IT WAS A, A REQUEST OF SOME, UH, MAYORS AND THE CITY OFFICIALS AND OTHER OFFICIALS UP IN THE, THE FOX VALLEY TO GREEN BAY AREA THAT WERE LOOKING TO EXTEND SERVICE FROM MILWAUKEE UP TO AREA. UM, UP TO THAT POINT IT WAS JUST KIND OF A TALK AND DISCUSSION. AND SO NOW IT'S A LITTLE BIT PAST THAT POINT WHERE THE, THE DO TWO IS ACTUALLY GIVEN, UH, FUNDING TO START LOOKING AT THAT. UH, SO THERE'S MULTIPLE STEPS IN HERE AS YOU LOOK ON THE SECOND PAGE WITH, WITH THE BULLET POINTS. EVEN STEP ONE HAS SUB STEPS TO THAT AS WELL. SO WE'RE UNDER, UH, BULLET POINT, UH, STEP ONE, BULLET POINT NUMBER ONE, UH, SERVICE DEVELOPMENT PLANNING SCOPING. AND WHAT THAT MEANS IS BASICALLY IS WHAT, WHAT I WOULD REFER TO AS A NEEDS ANALYSIS. IS THERE A NEED FOR THIS PARTICULAR RAILROAD TO BE RUN? RIGHT? KIND OF FIRST STEP GOING, YOU KNOW, NOT IF YOU BUILD IT, WILL THEY COME, BUT ACTUALLY WILL THEY COME IF YOU BUILD IT? AND SO THAT'S VERY IMPORTANT THING TO, TO LOOK AT. AND THAT'S WHERE THEY'RE AT RIGHT NOW. AND THAT'S ANYWHERE FROM A SEVEN MONTH TO A YEAR PROCESS WILL BE MONITORING THAT AND, AND BRING THOSE DISCUSSIONS BACK TO THIS BODY PUBLIC WORKS, UH, 'CAUSE IT IS A TRANSPORTATION RELATED ITEM, UH, GOING FORWARD. SO WE'RE BRINGING THAT BACK AND THERE'S A DECISION MADE OR, OR COMMENT PERIOD, STUFF LIKE THAT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE ALL AWARE THAT THAT'S OUT THERE AND WE CAN MAKE THEN COMMENTS ON THAT PLAN. BUT THEN YOU ALSO HAVE THE PROGRAM INITIATION AFTER THAT, THE DEVELOPMENT PLANNING PROJECT DEVELOPMENT, I MEAN, WE'RE STILL TALKING YEARS AND YEARS AWAY BEFORE A TRAIN IF IT IS APPROVED THROUGH ALL THE PROCESSES DONE. SO THIS IS A, THE KIND OF THE FIRST STEP, IF YOU WILL, UH, THE NEXT STEP REQUIRES, UH, FUNDING AS WELL, PLUS ALSO A MATCH FROM THE, THE STATE OF WISCONSIN OR THE LOCAL MUNICIPALITY. SO THAT'S WHEN YOU GET MORE BUY-IN, YOU KNOW, GOING FORWARD. SO RIGHT NOW IT'S A PRETTY EASY ASK GOING FEDERAL GOVERNMENT, GIVE US SOME FUNDS SO WE CAN STUDY THIS AND SEE IF WE ACTUALLY NEED IT OR NOT. UM, AND THE NEXT STEP IS, OKAY, FELLOW SAYS, WELL, IT'S ON THE NEXT STEP. IF YOU REALLY, REALLY WANT IT NOW, YOU GOTTA START POINTING SOME SKIN IN THE GAME. AND SO WE'RE, AS YOU CAN SEE, WE'RE, WE'RE QUITE A WAYS AWAY FROM CHOOSING A ROUTE, FOR INSTANCE, BUT WE DO WANNA MAKE YOU AWARE, UH, AND, AND, UH, THE PUBLIC AWARE THAT THERE ARE A FEW RAIL LINES AND YOU, YOU'LL SEE AN ATTACHED IMAGE, UH, UH, TO THE REPORT AS WELL OF THE RAIL LINES AND, AND XRA LINES OF THE RAILS TO TRAILS, UH, THAT ARE IN WASHINGTON COUNTY THAT ARE, ARE VIABLE. I, I WOULD [00:10:01] SUSPECT THEY'RE NOT GONNA GO AND BUILD A NEW RAIL LINE SOMEWHERE BECAUSE OF THE EXPENSE OF THAT. UH, SO THEY USE EXISTING RAIL LINES OR RAIL CORRIDORS AND, AND TO POINT OUT, UM, I KNOW SUPERVISOR BO HERE REPRESENTS, UH, THE CITY WEST BEND, THE IS IN MONT TRAIL, UH, IN CASE YOU'RE WONDERING THAT IT'S STILL OWNED, UH, BY THE DNR AND COULD BE TURNED BACK INTO A RAIL LINE, UH, AT THEIR DISCRETION. SO THERE'S AN AGREEMENT WE HAVE AND ALL THAT KIND OF STUFF THAT, THAT, THAT COULD HAPPEN AND IS A POSSIBILITY OF COURSE. UM, IT'S TOO EARLY TO MAKE A COMMENT ON THAT BECAUSE THEY'RE JUST NOT AT THAT, THAT PHASE YET, RIGHT? RIGHT. NOW THEY'RE JUST SEEING, YOU KNOW, IS THERE A NEED FROM ONE POINT TO ANOTHER? AND THEN ONCE THEY GET THAT, THEN THEY'LL START LOOKING AT ROUTE IDENTIFICATION. AND THAT'S, UM, YOU KNOW, FIRST OF ALL, WE CERTAINLY CAN MAKE COMMENTS ON, ON THE NEED, UH, BUT THEN OBVIOUSLY THE ROUTE, UH, WILL BE EVEN MORE OF A PLACE WHERE THIS BODY OR THE BOARD, UH, WOULD BE MAKING PROBABLY COMMENTS ON THAT. UH, WE'RE STILL PROBABLY SEVERAL EASILY MONTHS, IF NOT YEARS AWAY FROM, FROM MAKING THOSE KIND OF POLICY DECISIONS AND CHANGES, BUT WE WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE BRINGING IT TO YOU NOW AND, AND KEEPING IT IN THE FOREFRONT SO WHEN THAT DECISIONS DO COME THAT YOU'RE NOT JUST SURPRISED BY THEM, UH, GOING FORWARD. SO, AND, AND TO A LITTLE BIT OF UNDERSTANDING THAT, UH, STAFF IS MONITORING THIS, UH, FOR THE COUNTY BOARD AS WELL AS THE COUNTY EXECUTIVE TO MAKE SURE THAT, UH, IT'S NOT SOMETHING GONNA SLIP THROUGH THE CRACKS AND ALL OF A SUDDEN WHOOP HERE, UH, YOU KNOW, SOMETHING SHOWS UP ONE DAY THAT WE DIDN'T EVEN KNOW ABOUT. SO, UH, WITH THAT, UH, CERTAINLY ABLE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS, UH, THAT YOU MAY HAVE ON THE REPORT OR, OR ANYTHING. YEAH. AS LONG AS IT'S A LONG WAYS OFF, I'M GOOD WITH THAT. YEP. SEVEN TO 10 YEARS SOMETIMES COMES PRETTY QUICK. YEAH. SO THAT'S WHAT I WANNA MAKE SURE WE'RE MONITORING IT NOW ALREADY. AND MR. UH, CHAIRMAN, CAN I CHIME IN WITH A QUESTION AND ABSOLUTELY. OKAY. SO THANK YOU SCOTT. UM, SO FIRST THING IS, UH, THE EISENMAN TRAIL, IF YOU FOLLOW IT NORTH, THERE'S A POINT WHERE IT SEEMS TO END. DID THAT TRAIL DID, WHEN THAT WAS RAIL, DID THAT EVER GO ALL THE WAY TO FOND DULAC OR WOULD THEY HAVE TO ACQUIRE LAND IN ORDER? NO, IT, IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING THERE, UH, THE RAIL BETWEEN WEST, I'LL CALL IT JUST, YOU KNOW, SOUTH END OF WEST BEND, LET'S JUST SAY TO EDEN, IS THE RAILS TO TRAILS. AND THE RAIL THEN COMES FROM FOND LAC DOWN TO EDEN. IF YOU TYPE IN WISCONSIN RAIL MAPS, UH, GOOGLE IT, UH, THAT'S THE MAP THAT'S SHOWN RIGHT THERE. SO YOU CAN TAKE A LOOK AT THAT. SO THEY WOULDN'T HAVE TO NECESSARILY PURCHASE ANY MORE LAND. THAT'S MY UNDERSTANDING. UH, BASED ON THOSE MAPS THAT WE JUST SAW THE OTHER DAY AS PART OF THE, PART OF THE BRIDGE PROGRAM, WE SITTING HERE TALKING ABOUT RAILS. SO WE BROUGHT THAT MAP UP AND THAT'S WHAT IT SHOWED. AND I THINK IF I UNDERSTAND CORRECTLY, WE AS A COUNTY ARE ADVOCATING TO PROTECT THE TRAIL, IS THAT CORRECT? CORRECT. I WE ARE CURRENTLY, UM, NOW THERE'S NOTHING OFFICIAL YET BECAUSE THERE WAS NOBODY TO OFFICIALLY GIVE THAT INFORMATION TO BECAUSE THERE WAS NO OFFICIAL PROCESS. IT WAS BASICALLY TELLING THE, UH, OTHER INTERESTED PARTIES THAT, UH, THAT WERE INVOLVED SAYING WE WEREN'T INTERESTED IN THAT LOCATION. AND I WANT TO ADD TO THIS, THAT IF THEY WERE GONNA HAVE GO THROUGH WASHINGTON COUNTY, WE WOULD LIKE TO HAVE A STOP IN WASHINGTON COUNTY. SO TWO THINGS THAT WE'RE KIND OF ADVOCATING FOR OR WILL BE ADVOCATING, BUT AGAIN, AT, AT SOME POINT, THIS COMMITTEE OR THE WHOLE BOARD WILL PROBABLY BE ASKED TO PUT THAT, SOMETHING LIKE THAT IN WRITING OFFICIALLY. AND SO THAT'S WHAT WE'RE KIND OF PREPARING YOU FOR IS, IS THOSE THINGS GOING DOWN, DOWN THE ROAD, DOWN THAT TRACK. SO WE'RE, SO WE'RE ADVOCATING FOR A STOP IN WASHINGTON COUNTY IF IT COMES THROUGH HERE AND THAT IT NOT BE ON THE ISENBERG TRAIL, RIGHT? WELL, RIGHT NOW THERE'S NOBODY TO ADVOCATE THAT TOO, RIGHT? SO I THINK AT, AT SOME POINT, RIGHT, YOU'LL BE ASKED, YOU'LL BE ASKED IF YOU WANTED TO DO THAT VERY THING THAT THIS, EITHER THIS COMMITTEE OR, OR THE WHOLE BOARD, DEPENDING ON, YOU KNOW, HOW, HOW THEY ACTUALLY NEED THAT WRITING. I DON'T THINK IT'S FAIR TO SAY THAT WE'RE ADVOCATING RIGHT YET BECAUSE WE DON'T KNOW ANYTHING. CORRECT. YEAH, YOU'LL BE GIVING, WE'LL BE MONITORING THIS FOR YOU SO THAT WE'LL MAKE YOU BE, BE ABLE TO MAKE SOME POLICY DECISIONS AND SOME COMMENTS ON THE PLAN OFFICIALLY AT SOME POINT IF THAT'S WHAT YOU'RE CHOOSING. IF THE BOARD AT THAT TIME DECIDES NOT TO MAKE COMMENT, THAT'S, THAT'S YOUR PURVIEW AS WELL. YEAH. AND THEN, UH, I WAS DOING SOME RESEARCH ON THIS. I READ AN ARTICLE, UM, BADGER, BADGER SOMETHING OR OTHER, PUTS IT OUT, UM, I CAN'T THINK OF THE NAME RIGHT NOW, BUT THEY MENTIONED THAT RIGHT NOW THERE'S AN EXISTING AMTRAK BUS LINE, THEY CALL IT AMTRAK CONNECT FROM GREEN BAY TO MILWAUKEE, AND THAT RUNS TWO ROUTES A DAY AND THEY'RE SEEING, UH, 30% OCCUPANCY ON AVERAGE FOR THAT. SO IF THAT'S A STANDARD 56 PERSON BUS, THAT SOUNDS LIKE ABOUT 40 PEOPLE A DAY. NOW IF YOU DOUBLE THAT, 'CAUSE THEY'RE GOING BOTH WAYS, THAT'S 80 [00:15:01] PEOPLE A DAY. THAT TO ME DOESN'T EVEN SPEAK TO A NEED FOR THIS TO EXIST, WHICH FITS YOUR COMMENT OF A THEY NEED TO STUDY. IF THEY BUILD IT, WILL PEOPLE ACTUALLY COME OR NOT, RIGHT? SO, UM, I JUST KIND OF WANNA PUT THAT LITTLE TIDBIT OUT THERE THAT I LEAN TOWARDS THINKING THAT THERE'S NOT A NEED FOR THIS, THIS IS A SOLUTION IN SEARCH OF A PROBLEM. SO WHAT, WHAT WAS THAT? WITHOUT A PROBLEM. YEAH, NO PROBLEM. YEAH. SOLUTION LOOKING FOR ITS PROBLEM. YEAH. SO, YEP. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. I TOTALLY AGREE WITH THAT POINT OF VIEW. UM, NOT TO GET IN THE WEEDS, BUT IS THE EISEN BAUM ONE OF OUR PARKS? I MEAN, WHO HAS JURISDICTION OVER THE EISEN BAUM? JUST THE DNR? NO, I MEAN I'M, I'M, I'M IN FRONT OF MY SKIS HERE. I WANT TO ADMIT THAT. UM, I KNOW THE CITY MAINTAINS A PORTION, CERTAIN PORTION OF THE EISEN BOND. WE MAINTAIN A CERTAIN PORTION. I KNOW THERE'S GRANT FUNDING FOR THE PAVING. UM, I DON'T RECALL IF THAT WAS PARTIALLY PAID FOR WITH THE CITY FUNDS OR, OR COUNTY FUNDS OR, OR HOW THAT ALL WENT DOWN AND, AND THE BRIDGES. THAT WAS CERTAINLY PART OF THE PARKS DEPARTMENT WHEN THAT TRANSFER HAPPENED. BUT, UM, I JUST CAN'T SPEAK TO, UM, I KNOW THERE'S CERTAIN RESPONSIBILITIES FOR MAINTENANCE FOR BOTH THE CITY AND, AND THE COUNTY ON, ON THAT TRAIL. I JUST DON'T KNOW WHAT THE, THE BREAKDOWN IS. BUT ANYTHING THAT, THAT WE DO WANT TO DO ON THAT TRAIL DOES NEED TO GET APPROVED FROM THE DNR. ANECDOTALLY, I KNOW THAT THE EXISTING RAILWAYS ARE ZEALOUS ABOUT PROTECTING THEIR PROPERTY, THE WIDTH OF THEIR RIGHT OF WAY. IN THE CASE OF A TRAIL LIKE THIS, I THINK IF SOMETHING STARTED, AND I REALLY DON'T WANT IT TO START, BUT THERE'S GONNA BE PEOPLE ALL OVER THAT PROPERTY THE RIGHT OF WAY HAS PROBABLY INFRINGED ON ALL OVER THE PLACE. BUT WE'LL JUMP THAT BRIDGE WHEN WE GET TO IT. IF I CAN ADD IN ANOTHER THING THAT AS WE THINK ABOUT THIS, WE'RE GONNA WANNA KEEP IN MIND, UM, YOU KNOW, I MOVED TO WEST BEND IN 2008. I LOOK AT THE AREA EAST OF DOWNTOWN AND HOW MUCH DIFFERENT THAT LOOKS TODAY THAN IT DID WHEN I MOVED HERE. AND WHEN I MOVED HERE, I THINK THE EISENMAN TRAIL WAS THREE OR FOUR YEARS OLD. EVERY MAJOR PRIVATE DEVELOPMENT AROUND DOWNTOWN SEEMS TO WANNA BE AS CLOSE TO THAT EISENMAN TRAIL AS THEY CAN BE. THAT HAS REALLY SPURRED A LOT OF DEVELOPMENT. UM, I KNOW CHAIRMAN SCH LIFE AND I WERE BOTH AT THE, UH, VILLAGE OF AYAHUASCA WHEN THEY WERE SHOWING THEIR VISION FOR HOW THEY WANNA REVITALIZE DOWNTOWN. AND THE EISENMAN TRAIL WAS MENTIONED SEVERAL TIMES AS A KEY COMPONENT OF MAKING THAT HAPPEN AS WELL. I THINK THAT TRAIL HAS DONE SO MUCH TO CHANGE OUR COMMUNITY FOR THE POSITIVE. WHEN I'M OUT THERE, THE NUMBER OF PEOPLE I SEE USING IT EVERY TIME I'M OUT THERE IS SIGNIFICANT. IT'S A BIG RESOURCE FOR OUR COMMUNITY AND A BIG SOURCE OF ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT AND I THINK WE NEED TO PROTECT THAT. SO THANK YOU. IF I COULD, MR. CHAIR, ONE MORE THING, UH, TO, TO SUPERVISOR BO'S POINT BROUGHT THIS UP. UH, NOT ONLY WILL WE BE LOOKING AT THE, IF WE DO HAVE TO ADVOCATE ONE WAY OR ANOTHER OR A POLICY DECISION IS MADE, WE'RE ALSO IN COMMUNICATION WITH THE LOCAL MUNICIPALITIES AS WELL. SO WE'LL MAKE SURE THAT THEY'RE KEPT UP TO SPEED AS WELL. WHETHER IT'S COMING THROUGH THE SLINGER AREA, THROUGH THE, THE CANADIAN NATIONAL TRAILER COMING THROUGH WEST BEND, WE'LL MAKE SURE THAT WE KEEP THEM IN, IN ABREAST OF THE SITUATION AS WELL. SO, SOUNDS GOOD. WE ALL SET? OKAY. MOVING ON. RESOLUTION 2023 BRIDGE AND CULVERT AID FOR TOWN OF JACKSON. I NEED A MOTION IN A SECOND. I'LL MOVE SUPERVISOR SCH AND, UH, IS THAT, UH, DOUG? WAS THAT ? HE HAD THE FINGER UP AND SUPERVISOR NEWMAN? NOT SECOND. NOT LIKE I HAVE A WHOLE LOT OF [d. 2023 Resolution: Bridge and Culvert Aid – Town of Jackson] CHOICES HERE. UM, DID YOU WANT TO SPEAK ON IT OR IS IT, I I CERTAINLY CAN'T IF THERE, IS THERE ANY QUESTIONS? THE, IS THERE ANY QUESTIONS ON THIS OR IS IT PRETTY STRAIGHTFORWARD? STANDARD PROCEDURE. STANDARD PROCEDURE. ALL RIGHT, THEN WE'LL TAKE A VOTE ON IT. ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE. AYE. AYE. ANY OPPOSED? MOTION CARRIES. AND, UH, THAT'S IT FOR THE AGENDA. SO NEXT MEETING IS THURSDAY, MARCH 21ST AT 4:00 PM THIS MEETING'S ADJOURNED. * This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting.