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          COMMITTEE MEETING TO 
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ORDER ROLL CALL. 
          EVERYBODY HERE IS EXCEPT MIKE SCHWAB, WHO'S GONNA BE A LITTLE LATE? UH, UH, THIS, UH, MEETING WAS POSTED AS REQUIRED BY STATE LAW, AND WE'LL STAND FOR A MOMENT OF PRAYER AND PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE. 
          PREJUDICE. 
          I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG, TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES AMERICA, AND TO THE REPUBLIC. 
          TO REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS, ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL. 
          OKAY, I NEED A MOTION AND A SECOND ON THE CONSENT AGENDA. 
          MOTION. 
          MOTION BY SUPERVISOR NEWMAN. 
          SECOND BY SUPERVISOR HARTWIG. 
          ALL APPROVED SAY AYE. 
          AYE. 
          AYE. 
          OKAY. 
          AND MOVE ON TO DISCUSSION ITEMS. HIGHWAY QUARTERLY REPORT. 
          IS THAT YOU, SCOTT? YES. 
          UH, THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR. 
          YOU'LL SEE, UH, A FEW OF THE INITIATIVES THAT ARE, UH, IN THE PACKET TODAY. 
          THREE OF THEM, SPECIFICALLY 
          [a. Highway Quarterly Report]
OUR 2050, UH, TRANSPORTATION NETWORK SUSTAINABILITY PLANS FOR PARTICIPATING, PARTICIPATING MUNICIPALITIES. 
          AND WE'LL BE COVERING THAT LATER ON IN, IN AGENDA ITEMS. SO WE CAN CERTAINLY, UH, ASK QUESTIONS NOW OR CERTAINLY WAIT TILL LATER ON THAT AGENDA ITEM AND SEE WHERE WE'RE AT ON THAT INTERSECTION. 
          SAFETY ANALYSIS PLANS, UH, YOU DID SEE THE, THE DRAFT VERSION OF THE, THE COUNTIES, I BELIEVE IT WAS AT THE LAST MEETING. 
          AND, UH, WE'RE WORKING ON HOPEFULLY, UH, FINALIZING THAT ONE. 
          THEN AGAIN, EXTENDING THAT ONE TO THE, THE LOCUM MUNICIPALITIES THAT ARE INTERESTED IN A SAFETY, UH, ANALYSIS PLAN OF THEIR INTERSECTIONS IN THEIR RESPECTIVE MUNICIPALITIES. 
          AND THE THIRD ONE THAT WE'RE WORKING ON, UH, WHICH YOU'LL SEE AGAIN LATER ON IN TONIGHT'S AGENDA, IS OUR HIGH RISK RURAL ROADS, UH, PLANS, UH, LOOKING AT THE CRASHES THAT ARE OUTSIDE OF THE INTERSECTIONS. 
          UH, SO CERTAINLY CAN ASK QUESTIONS ABOUT THAT RIGHT NOW, BUT YOU'LL GET A, A GOOD, UH, DETAILED, UH, LISTING OF WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE A BIT LATER ON IN THE AGENDA. 
          SO, UM, SO THEY'RE ALL WORKING THROUGH THE DRAFT AND, UM, GONNA FINALIZE SOME MORE DATES IN THERE. 
          SO CERTAINLY ANYBODY HAS ANY QUESTIONS ON ANY OF THOSE THREE. 
          WE'D BE CERTAINLY HAPPY TO ANSWER THEM NOW. 
          BUT LIKE I SAID, LATER ON, WE'LL BE HAVING A LITTLE MORE DISCUSSION ON A COUPLE OF THOSE ITEMS. SOUNDS GOOD. 
          ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OR SHOULD WE WAIT TILL HE COMES UP AGAIN? OKAY, MOVE ON. 
          EXCUSE ME. 
          WAIT. 
          GONNA TALK TODAY. 
          TRANSIT RIDERSHIP REPORT. 
          IF IT'S OKAY WITH THE CHAIR, WE'RE GONNA HAVE CHARLIE TAKE THIS ONE. 
          OUR TRANSIT MANAGER. 
          UH, YOU'LL SEE THAT WE, UH, TWEAKED THE, UH, RIDERSHIP REPORT A LITTLE BIT THIS MONTH TO PROVIDE 
          [b. Transit Ridership Report]
A LITTLE MORE INFORMATION. 
          UM, IN OUR WORLD, IT FITTED ON A FRONT AND A BACK SHEET OF A PIECE OF PAPER, BUT IN, IN THE PRESENTATION IT'S TWO DIFFERENT SHEETS. 
          UH, SINCE WE ONLY HAVE, UH, ONE, UM, SERVICENOW TO PROVIDE, WE PROVIDE A LITTLE MORE INFORMATION, A LITTLE MORE DEPTH INFORMATION IF WE HAVE TO MAKE CHANGES THROUGH THE NEXT BUDGET CYCLE. 
          IT'S NICE TO START LOOKING AT THE INFORMATION A YEAR AND A HALF AHEAD OF TIME. 
          NOW, IS THIS ONE OF THESE CHARTS THAT ENGINEERS LIKE, LIKE WE SAW YESTERDAY, , UH, THIS WAS CHARLIE'S DOING. 
          UM, SO HE'S TO GET THE CREDIT AND OR THE BLAME, UH, FOR THIS. 
          AND, UH, UH, I DID GET A CHANCE TO REVIEW AND I, I THINK IT'S SOME, SOME REALLY GOOD DATA IN THERE THAT WE'LL PROBABLY SPEND A LITTLE TIME TO GO OVER WHAT IT ACTUALLY MEANS AND LOOKS LIKE NOW. 
          AND THEN, UM, OVER THE COURSE OF THE NEXT YEAR, WHEN YOU HAVE QUESTIONS, WE'LL DO THE SAME KIND OF SPREADSHEET EVERY, EVERY MONTH AND GRAPHS, UH, TO KINDA GET, GET A FEEL FOR WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE. 
          BUT I'LL LET, IF YOU'RE OKAY, I'LL LET CHARLIE EXPLAIN WHAT HE DID FOR YOU. 
          YEAH. 
          SO, UH, HIT THE BUTTON. 
          YEAH. 
          OKAY. 
          UH, SO I BROKE IT OUT INTO FAIR CATEGORIES, UH, SINCE I INCLUDED DECEMBER TO, UH, INCLUDE, UH, LET'S SEE. 
          SO AS YOU CAN SEE, THE TRIPS SINCE THE FAIR INCREASE, WHICH STARTED JANUARY OF THIS YEAR. 
          SO I INCLUDED, UH, DECEMBER AS WELL. 
          SO YOU CAN SEE THE DIFFERENCE IN THE FAIR CATEGORIES IN RIDERSHIP SINCE, UH, DECEMBER OF LAST YEAR. 
          UH, I ALSO INCLUDED THE TRIP PURPOSES, UH, FOR 2024. 
          THE TWO CHARTS, THEY'RE FOR THE YEAR. 
          THEY'RE NOT FOR THE MONTH, SO THAT'S WHY THERE'S, UH, YOU KNOW, OVER 4,000 IN, UH, EMPLOYMENT THERE. 
          UH, AND THEN THE BOTTOM CHART, IT'S THE TRIPS BY HOUR AND DAY OF WEEK. 
          SO YOU CAN SEE OUR HIGHEST RIDERSHIP, UH, PERIODS, UH, AS FAR AS DAYS AND AND HOUR OF THE DAY. 
          UH, WE ARE OPEN FROM, UH, 5:00 AM TO 10:00 PM. 
          THE 9:00 PM UH, IS NINE TO 10. 
          SO IT'S, YOU KNOW, FIVE TO SIX, SIX TO SEVEN, SEVEN TO SEVEN TO EIGHT. 
          UH, SO WE ARE OPEN TILL TILL 10 ON, ON WEEKDAYS AND SATURDAY. 
          AND THEN ON THE NEXT SHEET WE HAVE THE, UH, THE RIDERSHIP REPORT THAT WE WOULD NORMALLY, UH, PRESENT. 
          WE'VE PRESENTED IN THE PAST, UH, WITH 2024 IN THERE. 
          AND WE ALSO INCLUDED THE CROSS-COUNTY TRIPS, UH, SINCE THE BEGINNING OF 23, THE 2022 DATA. 
          UM, 
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WE SWITCHED SOFTWARES AND IT, IT'S JUST HARD TO, HARD TO TRACK THAT. 
          UH, CAN'T GET EXACT NUMBERS ON THE 2022, UH, CURRENTLY. 
          UH, THEN WE ALSO HAVE THE DRIVERS SCHEDULED BY HOUR AND, UH, DAY OF WEEK. 
          SO YOU CAN KIND OF SEE WHERE, UH, WHERE THE DRIVERS ARE PLACED, UH, THROUGHOUT THE WEEK. 
          SEE HOW THAT LINES UP WITH THE, UH, WITH THE RIDERSHIP. 
          UH, DO YOU HAVE ANY, UH, QUESTIONS? YEAH, I DO. 
          I HAVE A QUESTION. 
          SO, IN DECEMBER, IS THAT WHEN WE STILL HAD THE OLD RATES? YEP, THAT'S WITH THE OLD RATES. 
          OKAY. 
          IS THAT IT FOR YOU? OKAY, DOUG. 
          SO THAT WAS PART OF MY QUESTION. 
          WELL, THAT QUESTION I GUESS I KNEW THE ANSWER TO, BUT THE, THAT OBVIOUSLY MADE A DIFFERENCE IN THE RIDERSHIP, AS YOU CAN SEE. 
          AND, AND WE EXPECT THAT THAT'S THE TREND. 
          AND YOU RAISE, RAISE THE RATES REALLY SUFFERED IN THE ADULT CATEGORY. 
          MY QUESTION FOLLOW UP QUESTION WOULD BE THE HOSPITAL COLUMN. 
          WHAT IS THAT FOR? RATE OR WHAT TICKETS OR WHAT IS? UH, SO WE HAD AN AGREEMENT, AT LEAST IN 2023. 
          WE HAD AN AGREEMENT THAT'S BEEN GOING ON FOR YEARS WITH THE FREIGHTER AND, UH, UH, HARTFORD MEDICAL FOUNDATION, UH, WHERE THEY SUBSIDIZED THE TRIPS TO AND FROM. 
          UH, SO HARTFORD DOES AURORA HOSPITALS AND THEN RADER, THEY DID THE FRESH, UH, F FREIGHTER HOSPITAL IN, UH, IN WEST BEND. 
          BUT STARTING THIS YEAR, F FREIGHTER WILL ONLY DO ONLY DO TRIPS FROM THE HOSPITAL. 
          IT'S ONLY APPROVED TRIPS FROM THE HOSPITAL. 
          SO THAT'S WHERE THE HOSPITAL TRIPS HAVE GONE DOWN SINCE FREIGHTER CHANGED HOW THEY SUBSIDIZED THE BEARS. 
          IT'S NO LONGER TO THE HOSPITAL, IT'S JUST FROM YEAH, IT'S NO LONGER TO, IT'S JUST FROM, SO WHAT IS THE, UH, THE FEE FOR THOSE? IS THAT DIFFERENT THAN THE ADULT? IS THAT A SEPARATE WHOLE? YES. 
          SO THEY PAY, UH, THE PASSENGER PAYS $2 AND THEN THE, UH, UH, FOUNDATION OPERATOR WOULD PAY, UH, THE REMAINING THREE 50. 
          SO IT'S FIVE 50 FOR THE WHOLE FAIR AND THE, UH, FOUNDATION OR, UH, FREIGHTER WOULD, UH, PAY THE OTHER, UH, THREE 50. 
          OKAY. 
          AND I DON'T REMEMBER WHAT THE FIVE 50 FAIR RATE, WHAT DOES THAT ALIGN WITH? I, MY MEMORY DOESN'T SERVE ME. 
          IS THAT THE ELDERLY RATE OR, UH, THAT WAS THE, IT WAS A DOLLAR INCREASE FROM THE, THE RATE PRIOR. 
          SO THE RATE PRIOR WAS 4 54 FOR THAT. 
          AND THIS HAS GONE ON, THIS PROGRAM'S BEEN, AT LEAST FOR THE LAST 10 YEARS, I COULDN'T SEE WHEN IT STARTED, BUT IT, IT'S BEEN A, UH, UH, THAT'S BEEN THE, THE RATE FOR AT LEAST THE PAST, UH, THREE YEARS AS FAR AS I COULD TELL IF I COULD. 
          SO THE, THE FARES, UH, RIGHT NOW, AGAIN, IT'S BASED ON MILEAGE BASED, IF YOU RECALL. 
          SO THE ELDERLY DISABLED FOR ZERO TO FIVE MILES IS $3, UH, FOR ADULT IS 10 FOR HOSPITAL STUDENT HOSPITALS, FIVE 50 STUDENT IS FOUR. 
          SO TO GET A FLAVOR, SO AGAIN, ELDERLY IS ELDERLY, DISABLED ARE $3 FOR ZERO TO FIVE MILES. 
          ADULT IS 10 HOSPITALS FIVE 50. 
          SO KIND OF SPLIT THE DIFFERENCE, IF YOU WILL, A LITTLE BIT HIGHER THAN THE ELDERLY DISABLED SUBSTANTIALLY LOWER THAN THE ADULTS FAIR. 
          IS THAT HOPEFULLY ANSWERED YOUR QUESTION? YEAH, THAT HELPS. 
          I DON'T, I DON'T THINK YOU WANNA GO THROUGH THE FIVE TO 10 CATEGORY IN 10 TO 20 AND STUFF LIKE THAT. 
          SO I  OH, I'M SORRY. 
          DIDN'T SEE MEAN. 
          UH, SO AGENCY IS WHEN A, A, UM, UH, A A STATE AGENCY, UH, PAYS FOR, PAYS FOR THE FARES. 
          OFTEN THESE PEOPLE ARE, UH, ARE DISABLED. 
          SO IT'S A RATE, IT COMES OUT OF THEIR, UH, APPROVED, UH, BUDGET FROM THE STATE. 
          LIKE THEY'RE NORMALLY, LIKE A, UH, SOCIAL SERVICE, UH, KIND OF BUDGET IS SET FOR THEM. 
          AND THEN, UH, TICKETS ARE GIVEN TO, TO THEM AT THIS AGENCY RATE, WHICH IS A STANDARD, UH, $15 PER PER TICKET. 
          SO IT'S NOT MILEAGE BASED, IT'S JUST A PER TICKET. 
          SO IT DOESN'T COME OUT OF THEIR POCKET, IT COMES OUT OF THEIR, THEIR BUDGET FROM THEIR STATE PROGRAM THAT THEY'RE IN. 
          I BELIEVE ALL THESE WERE ON OUR PAPERWORK WHEN WE WERE LOOKING AT RAISING RATES, RIGHT? YEAH. 
          SO A A LOT OF THE DATA THAT YOU SEE HERE WAS ON THAT DATA, AND WE, WE THOUGHT IT, IT WOULD BE, UH, GOOD SINCE YOU, YOU, YOU'VE SEEN THAT DATA BEFORE US TO, TO LOOK AT THE DATA KIND OF ON A, ON A MONTHLY BASIS, ESPECIALLY SINCE WE HAD A, A INCREASED FARE BETWEEN DECEMBER AND AND JANUARY. 
          WE JUST FIGURED YOU'D BE KIND OF CURIOUS TO SEE WHAT THAT DID TO, TO RIDERSHIP VERSUS JUST SEEING THE TOTAL NUMBER. 
          WHAT YOU SEE REALLY DOESN'T SHOW A PICTURE, UM, OF WHAT REALLY HAPPENED. 
          UM, WHAT WE DID LOOK AT, UH, THE ADULTS, 
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UH, WE DID WORK WITH OUR, UM, VENDOR WHO DOES THE SERVICE, UH, JUST TO TALK ABOUT WHEN THOSE PEOPLE CHANGE FROM ADULT TO THE ELDERLY CAT, DISABLED CAT CATEGORIES, YOU KNOW, WAS IT LEGITIMATE? AND THEY, THEY SAID YES. 
          UH, YOU CAN IMAGINE THAT WHEN YOU HAD A FAIR, IF PEOPLE DIDN'T WANNA SAY THEY WERE DISABLED OR HAVE SAY THEY WERE ELDERLY, UH, THEY COULD JUST PAY THE ADULT FAIR AND IT DIDN'T MATTER. 
          AND SO WE HAD A LOT THAT WERE JUST IT AND THE SYSTEM BEHIND THE SCENES, IT, IT DIDN'T MATTER. 
          NOW IT DOES. 
          OKAY. 
          AND SO WE MADE SURE THAT THE PEOPLE THAT WERE EVEN IN THOSE CATEGORIES, WE MADE SURE WITH OUR VENDOR TOO, THAT THEY WERE TOLD ABOUT OR WHICH CATEGORY THEY SHOULD BE IN. 
          SO EVEN IF THEY WERE 70 YEARS OLD AND THEY SAID THEY WERE AN ADULT, WE WOULD STILL MAKE SURE THEY REALIZED THEY COULD HAVE A SAVINGS BY MOVING INTO ELDERLY. 
          WE DIDN'T JUST SAY, OH, LOOK, THEY JUST, THEY, THEY, OH HA HA UM, NO, IT WAS MADE SURE THAT THEY WERE AWARE THAT THEY SHOULD GET THE, UH, ELDERLY CATEGORY. 
          NOW, SOME HAVE BEEN RIDING FOR A LONG TIME TOO, AND JUST KIND OF NATURALLY SLID INTO THE ELDERLY CATEGORY. 
          MM-HMM. 
          . 
          SO, SO IN ESSENCE, WHAT YOU'RE SAYING IS THAT, YEAH, OUR RIDERSHIP IS DOWN JUST A HAIR, BUT WHO USED TO RIDE AS ADULTS BEFORE, MAYBE BECAUSE OF THE FAIR INCREASE, NOW THEY'RE DISABLED OR ELDERLY, WHICH IS WHY THOSE TWO CATEGORIES WENT UP. 
          YEAH. 
          YOU KNOW, THEY'RE MORE CATEGORIES, CATEGORY CATEGORIZED CORRECTLY, AND THAT HELPS US IN OUR DATA AS WELL. 
          SURE. 
          OKAY. 
          YEAH. 
          AND I NOTICED STUDENTS HAD A BIG BUMP. 
          I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S NORMAL FOR THIS TIME OF YEAR OR YEAH, I THINK WE'D MENTIONED IT COULD BE POSSIBLY ONE STUDENT, YOU KNOW, IF THEY RODE, UH, YOU KNOW, 10 TIMES IN, IN THAT MONTH, BUT I HAVEN'T LOOKED INTO, RIGHT. 
          REMEMBER, IT'S A RIDE. 
          SO IF A STUDENT TAKES A RIDE FIVE DAYS IN THE WEEK, THAT'S NOW, YOU KNOW, 10 RIDES AT THE WEEK. 
          SO ONE PERSON IS 10 RIDES IF THEY GO ALL WEEK. 
          SO YOU LOOK AT THAT GOING, IT WENT FROM 10 TO 57, THAT MIGHT MEAN NOW PROBABLY TOOK IT MAYBE FOR THE WHOLE MONTH OR SOMETHING, SO, GOTCHA. 
          YEAH, JUST TO FOLLOW THAT UP TOO, , WE ALWAYS HAVE TO KEEP IN MIND IT'S NOT 75,000 PEOPLE THAT RODE LAST YEAR, IF THAT'S THE RIDES BUT RIGHTS. 
          CORRECT. 
          I HAVE A, I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S A ASK, UM, NOW THAT WE CHANGED THE, UH, THE FARES THIS YEAR, AND BY NEXT MONTH WE'LL HAVE THREE MONTHS WORTH OF DATA, COULD, WOULD IT BE POSSIBLE TO, TO PUT TOGETHER LAST YEAR'S COST PER RIDE VERSUS THE THREE MONTHS THIS YEAR? JUST TO SEE WHAT THE DIFFERENCE IN, OKAY. 
          YEAH, I CAN ADD THAT TO THE, TO THE NEXT REPORT. 
          YOU KNOW, THE COST PER RIDE AT THIS YEAR'S NEW RATES. 
          MM-HMM. 
           VERSUS LAST YEAR'S RATES AT THE RIDERSHIP, YOU KNOW, JUST KIND OF SEEING HOW THAT AFFECTED HOW THE FAIRES FAIR RATE INCREASE AFFECTED THE COST PER RIDE. 
          OKAY. 
          THAT'D BE KINDA INTERESTING. 
          SO YOU DON'T WANT TO KNOW JUST WHAT THE TOTAL COST OF RIDE, YOU WANT TO KNOW WHAT COST THEY'RE PAYING FOR VERSUS WHAT THE TAXPAYERS SAID. 
          WELL, FOR INSTANCE, YOU KNOW, WE, IN 2024, WE, WE RAISED THE FAIR RATES, BUT RIDERSHIP WENT WAY DOWN. 
          MM-HMM. 
          . 
          SO JUST SEEING WHERE THOSE NUMBERS ARE HAVING A LOWER RATE AND MORE RIDERS VERSUS LESS RIDERS AND A HIGHER RATE, HOW THAT, SO IT MIGHT HAVE BEEN BETTER OFF LEAVING 'EM DOWN TO GIVE RIDERSHIP OR SOMETHING. 
          DON'T THINK THAT'S THE CASE, BUT IT'S NOT GONNA BE AS SIGNIFICANT AS SOMEONE MIGHT THINK, I UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU'RE LOOKING FOR BECAUSE RIDERSHIP DROPPED. 
          THAT'S A LOT. 
          I MEAN MM-HMM, . 
          OKAY. 
          YEAH. 
          AND THOSE NUMBERS ARE, ARE ALL FARES TOO. 
          SO THAT'S NOT NECESSARILY, I MEAN, I GUESS THEY ALL WENT UP, BUT, SO THEN WOULDN'T WE WANNA SEE REVENUE AND THEN COST PER RIDE AS A TOOL? THAT'S WHAT I WAS ASKING FOR. 
          YEAH. 
          YOU MEAN REVENUE OR DO YOU YOU WANNA SEE BOTH WHEN YOU BREAK IT DOWN, IT'LL TELL YOU WHAT THE ACTUAL COST PER RIDE IS THEN. 
          OKAY. 
          SO AN ADDITIONAL CHART WITH THE, WITH THE REVENUE PER, SO IT MIGHT, IT MIGHT SAY, I'M JUST GONNA THROW NUMBERS OUT THERE. 
          OUR COST FOR THE COUNTY IS $55 A RIDE AND THEY'RE PAYING $10 OR $5. 
          IT'LL SHOW OKAY. 
          IT GOES BETWEEN WHAT THEY'RE PAYING AND WHAT'S SUBSIDIZED AND WHAT ACTUALLY IS, DOES THAT MAKE SENSE? MM-HMM. 
          , YES. 
          I, I BELIEVE SO. 
          YEAH, PLEASE. 
          AND THANK YOU. 
          YEP. 
          SO WE LET, WE TEND TO LIKE CHARTS TOO . 
          OKAY, I SEE THAT. 
          YEAH. 
          WELL, ONLY BECAUSE IT'S A CHANGE. 
          IT, IT IS. 
          SO THAT'S GOOD DATA. 
          YEAH. 
          YEP. 
          YOU BET. 
          AND THAT'S WHY WE FIGURED IT, IT WOULD BE NICE TO SHOW SOME OF THAT DATA TO YOU. 
          OKAY. 
          ANY OTHER QUESTIONS ON THIS? I'M DONE. 
          THANK YOU. 
          DONE, . 
          THANKS, DOUG. 
          OKAY, MOVING ON. 
          ROADWAY, SHARED REVENUE UPDATE. 
          UH, YES. 
          UH, THANK YOU, MR. MR. CHAIRMAN. 
          UH, AS YOU MAY RECALL, UH, THE COUNTY, UH, 
          [c. Roadway Shared Revenue Update]
HAS ELECTED TO DO A, A, A SHARED REVENUE PROGRAM, UH, 
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IN THE COUNTY TO THE TUNE OF FOUR 52,000 FOR THE FIRST YEAR IN 2024 AND FOUR 61,000 IN 2025. 
          UH, THAT WORKED THROUGH THE STRATEGIC PRIORITY SYSTEM HERE AT, AT THE COUNTY. 
          AND HOW THAT PROGRAM WAS RUN AND, AND SET UP WAS WE WORKED WITH THE CHIEF LOCAL ELECTED OFFICIALS, UH, HERE IN WASHINGTON COUNTY, UH, WITH, WITH ALL THE COMMUNITIES, UH, INVOLVED AT SOME LEVEL AND, AND KNOWLEDGEABLE. 
          UM, WE HAD A, A MEETING BACK IN DECEMBER, UH, WASHINGTON COUNTY ELECTED OFFICIALS, UH, CHAIRMAN SCH LIFE AND, UH, COUNTY EXECUTIVE SHOWMAN, UM, WERE NOT PRESENT, DID NOT, UH, PARTICIPATE IN THAT, UH, THAT VOTING GROUP. 
          UH, THAT GROUP DECIDED TO ELECT THEIR OWN CHAIR AND THEN SET UP SOME GROUND RULES AND TRY TO DECIDE ON HOW TO BEST, UH, DIVIDE THOSE FUNDS UP. 
          WE WENT THROUGH SEVERAL ITERATIONS. 
          UH, I WAS THERE TO PROVIDE A TECHNICAL GUIDANCE, BUT, BUT CERTAINLY WAS NOT A, A VOTING MEMBER, UM, IN THAT GROUP. 
          AND, UH, HOW THEY LANDED ON TO HOW TO DIVIDE UP THAT FOUR $52,000 WAS, UH, 70% WOULD BE DISTRIBUTED ON, ON THE ROAD MILEAGE THAT THEY HAD, AND 30% WOULD BE AN EQUAL SHARE, UM, OF, OF THE, THE DOLLAR AMOUNTS BROKEN UP, UH, AMONGST ALL THE COMMUNITIES. 
          AND THE REASONING FOR THAT IS SOME OF THE SMALLER COMMUNITIES DON'T HAVE A LOT OF ROAD MILEAGE. 
          AND, UH, KINDA CAME ABOUT. 
          IF YOU DID A SOLELY BASED ON ROADS, THEY MAYBE GET A, A COUPLE THOUSAND DOLLARS ONLY IN POTENTIAL, UM, MONETARY GAIN IN THAT. 
          AND HOW THE SYSTEM IS, IS WORKED UP WAS WE'VE CREATED A SPREADSHEET PROVIDED TO MUNICIPALITIES AND, UH, THE HIGHWAY DEPARTMENT WILL FURNISH THE LABOR, UH, AND EQUIPMENT AT NO EXPENSE. 
          UH, THAT COMES, UH, OUT OF, UM, THE, THE PROJECT FUNDING FOR THAT. 
          UH, AND THEN, UH, IT WAS A FOUR 52,000, AND THE INVOL MUNICIPALITIES WOULD BE RESPONSIBLE FOR ANY MATERIAL COSTS. 
          AND WE TRIED TO BREAK IT DOWN AS BEST WE COULD IN, IN A LOT OF CATEGORIES OF COST PER MILE ON AVERAGES, UH, BASED ON SEVERAL YEARS OF, OF EXPERIENCE. 
          AND IF YOU KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT ROADWAYS, IF YOU'RE DOING A, A CRACK FILL ON A ROAD OR A MASK ON A ROAD, SOME ROADS, THERE'S A LOT OF CRACKS, SOME ROADS, NOT SO MANY. 
          SO YOU'RE TRYING TO DO AN AVERAGE AS, AS BEST WE CAN TO, TO MAKE THAT HAPPEN. 
          AND SO, PROVIDED THAT SPREADSHEET AND THE MUNICIPALITY SAID THEY GET THAT SPREADSHEET BACK TO US TO, UH, LOOK AT THOSE PROJECT LISTS TO SEE WHAT WE ACTUALLY COULD, COULD WORK. 
          AND, UH, WE WERE ABLE TO ACCOMMODATE MOST OF THOSE, UM, PROJECTS. 
          UH, TO DATE, THERE WAS A, A CHIP SEALED PROJECT IN THE TOWN OF ADDISON WHERE WE'RE, WE'RE WORKING UP IN THE NORTHEAST PART OF THE COUNTY, IN THE TOWN OF FARMINGTON, NEWBURGH, UH, NORTH PART OF TRENTON. 
          UH, SO YOU COULD IMAGINE THAT, UH, THE CREW'S GOING FROM THERE ALL THE WAY OVER TO ADDISON AS A, AN EXPENSIVE PROPOSITION. 
          AND THEY HAVE, UH, THEY'VE GOT THEIR MEETING TONIGHT. 
          WE'RE HOPING THAT THEY LOOK AT OTHER PROJECTS ON OUR LIST, UH, THAT THEY CAN UTILIZE AND, AND DO, UM, TO, UM, UTILIZE THE FUNDS FOR THE, FOR THE TOWN OF ADDISON. 
          SO, UH, NEXT YEAR WE'LL BE OVER NEAR THE TOWN OF HARTFORD, SO IT MAKES MUCH MORE SENSE OTHERWISE, THE TOWN OF ADDISON'S PAYING FOR THAT WHOLE CREW, THE CHIP SPREADERS, ALL THE TRUCKS, FLAGGERS ROLLERS TO LOAD UP AND DRIVE ALL THE WAY OVER TOWN OF ADDISON, UM, IT MOBILIZATION IS, IS REALITY AND AND EXPENSIVE. 
          UM, ON THE ATTACHMENT THAT I HAD, UH, TO THAT IS THE, UH, THE WORK SCHEDULE. 
          AND, AND I, I APOLOGIZE FOR ITS SIDE. 
          AND THE GOOD THING IS YOU HAVE A PDF THAT YOU CAN ZOOM IN AND ZOOM OUT TO, TO LOOK AT THE WORK THAT IS BEING DONE. 
          UH, ONE POINT OF, OF, OF CLARITY IS THAT YOU'LL SEE THAT NOT ALL COMMUNITIES AND MUNICIPALITIES ARE ON THAT LIST. 
          UH, WHICH MEANS THAT, UH, THE GROUP DECIDED THAT THOSE THAT WERE GETTING SHARED REVENUE IN ANOTHER FORM, UH, WOULD NOT BE ELIGIBLE FOR THIS, THIS FUNDING. 
          AND THAT WAS, AGAIN, VOTED ON BY THE GROUP, NOT DECIDED BY THE COUNTY. 
          AND SO LOOKING AT THAT MASSIVE SPREADSHEET, YOU'LL SEE A BUNCH OF THE ROAD WORK ON THE, ON THE LEFT HAND SIDE, UH, THE DIFFERENT WORK WE'VE DONE AND, AND CERTAINLY SOME OTHER TOWNS AT THE BOTTOM OF THE LIST. 
          UH, BARTON AND TRENTON ADDED SOME OTHER STUFF ON THERE THAT WAS NOT ON THE ORIGINAL LIST, AND WE'RE CERTAINLY APPRECIATIVE OF THEIR EFFORTS TO TAKE THE TIME TO LOOK AT AT THAT. 
          UH, THE GOOD NEWS IS, IS THAT NOT EVERYTHING TAKES A LOT OF MATERIAL COSTS FOR A, FOR A TOWN IF THEY DON'T HAVE A LOT OF FUNDS FOR MATERIAL COSTS. 
          THERE'S CERTAIN THINGS WE CAN DO, LIKE DITCHING, THERE'S NOT A LOT OF MATERIAL COST IN DITCHING. 
          THERE'S, UH, NOT A LOT OF MATERIAL COSTS IN ROADSIDE VEGETATION REMOVAL, EITHER, UH, MOWING THE GRASS OR DOING TREE REMOVAL. 
          AS YOU CAN MEASURE VERY LITTLE IF NO COST, YOU'LL SEE SOME, SOME PENNIES ON THERE FOR TREE REMOVAL, BECAUSE SOMETIMES IF THERE'S, UH, INVASIVE SPECIES AND WEEDS, WE LIKE TO, YOU KNOW, PUT A LITTLE, UM, HELPER TO MAKE SURE THE STUFF GETS KILLED ON TOP OF THOSE, UH, YOU KNOW, TREES AND BRANCHES THAT ARE CUT OFF. 
          SO, UH, TO MAKE SURE YOU DON'T PROPAGATE BACK UP. 
          SO YOU SEE A NICE LONG LIST OF RED AS A MATERIAL LIST THAT THE, THE LOCUMS PAD WOULD BE RESPONSIBLE FOR. 
          UM, AND THEN THE GREEN WOULD BE WHAT, UH, THE, THE COUNTY WOULD END UP, UH, SUBSIDIZING WORKING ON FOR THEM. 
          YOU'LL SEE THE NUMBER IS NOT 452,000 YET, BECAUSE SEVERAL OF THE COMMUNITIES THAT ARE IN BLUE, UH, HAVEN'T BEEN ABLE TO GET THAT LIST BACK TO US YET, AND FINALIZED 
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IT. 
          UH, TOWN OF GERMANTOWN WAS STILL HAVING THEIR MEETINGS. 
          UH, TOWN OF TRENTON WAS DOING THEIR, THEIR ROADWORK. 
          WE PUT SOME THOUGHTS IN THERE ORIGINALLY. 
          AND, AND SAME THING WITH THE TOWN OF WEST BEND. 
          SO THERE'S SOME, SOME GAPS IN THERE YET, UH, THAT WE HAVE TO DO. 
          AND, AND CERTAINLY WE'RE MORE THAN WILLING TO DO, WILLING TO DO OTHER WORK FOR THE TOWN, CITIES AND VILLAGES AS WELL. 
          SO THERE'S, UH, WORK THAT'S, UH, ABOVE AND BEYOND HERE THAT WE CERTAINLY ARE, ARE CAPABLE AND, AND WILLING TO DO. 
          UH, CULVERTS, UH, FOR INSTANCE, ARE COMING UP, UH, AGAIN THIS YEAR. 
          SO, UM, SO WE'LL BE DOING THAT. 
          UH, YOU SEE A TRAFFIC STUDY AT THE END AT THE TOWN OF, UH, JACKSON. 
          WE JUST DID A TRAFFIC STUDY FOR THEM. 
          UH, THE VILLAGE OF JACKSON HAS REQUESTED A TRAFFIC STUDY. 
          SO THERE'S SOME OTHER UNIQUE THINGS OUT THERE THAT, UH, AS WE WORK ON THROUGH THE COURSE OF THE YEAR, IF WE'RE ABLE TO DO IT, WE'LL CERTAINLY BE ABLE TO DO THAT. 
          SO THAT KINDA HOPEFULLY PROVIDES A KINDA A, A QUICK OVERVIEW OF, OF THE PROGRAM, UM, AND HOW IT'S WORKING. 
          WE HAVE STARTED IT ALREADY. 
          UH, WE HAVE, UH, DONE WORK IN THE TOWN OF POLK, UH, DONE MECHANICAL WORK FOR THE TOWN OF BARTON. 
          WE STARTED ASTIC WORK IN THE TOWN OF AARON. 
          UH, AS YOU CAN IMAGINE THE SPRINGS EXCEPT FOR TOMORROW, UH, IT'S BEEN PRETTY MILD FOR US TO BE ABLE TO GET OUT THERE AND, AND START SOME OF THIS WORK ALREADY TO GET, GET A LITTLE AHEAD OF IT. 
          SO WE'RE APPRECIATIVE TO THE TOWNS AND, AND VILLAGES TO US, UH, START THAT WORK ALREADY SO THAT, UM, UH, WE CAN ACCOMPLISH ALL THIS TASK FOR THEM. 
          I NOTICED THE UNITS ARE A LITTLE DIFFERENT HERE FOR EACH ITEM. 
          OH YEAH. 
          YOU GOT MILES IN EACH AND RIGHT. 
          LINEAR FEET. 
          YEP. 
          YOU NOTICE ONE OVER THE OTHER. 
          LIKE, IS ROAD CHIPPING THE MOST POPULAR OR IS IT TOO EARLY TO TELL WHAT SERVICES YOU THINK WOULD BECOME JUST LOOKING AT IT, THE CULVERT REPLACEMENTS, UM, ARE, ARE PRETTY HIGH ON THE LIST AS FAR AS HOW MANY SELECTED IT PAVEMENT MARKINGS, UH, PRETTY HIGH ON THE LIST, JUST LOOKING AT HOW MANY, UH, CRACK FILLING. 
          UH, IT'S GOOD TO SEE THAT CRACK FILLING, RIGHT. 
          THAT REALLY HELPS THE, THE LONG TERM MAINTENANCE OF THE ROADWAY, UH, MA AS WELL. 
          UH, AND SOME, SOME, SOME TOWN DON'T HAVE THE MONEY FOR PAVEMENT MARKING, BUT, BUT NOW THEY DO. 
          UM, YOU LOOK AT THE COST, UH, FOR THE UNIT COST OF THE MATERIAL VERSUS THE, THE COST OF THE, UM, CREWS TO BE OUT THERE. 
          UM, YOU KNOW, MAYBE NOW IT'S MORE COST, UM, BENEFICIAL. 
          AND WE DID A LOT OF PAINTING AHEAD OF TIME FOR THE MUNICIPALITIES AND THIS BEING THE FIRST YEAR, AND, AND WE WERE VERY QUICK TO GET THIS DONE. 
          AND, AND LOCAL OFFICIALS, I'M SURE CAN ATTEST THAT THERE WAS NOT A LOT OF TIME BETWEEN DECEMBER AND AND FEBRUARY WITH THE, WITH THE HOLIDAYS. 
          AND I THINK THIS LIST IS CERTAINLY SUBJECT TO CHANGE OVER THE NEXT YEAR ONCE THEY HAVE A LITTLE MORE TIME TO ACTUALLY DIGEST IT. 
          WE HAVE A YEAR UNDER OUR BELT, WE'LL BE MEETING WITH THAT GROUP AGAIN IN SEPTEMBER OF THIS YEAR. 
          AND AT THAT TIME WE'LL BE LOOKING THROUGH THIS LIST AND SEE WHAT ELSE WE HAVE TO ACCOMPLISH. 
          IF THERE'S ANY TOWN THAT CANNOT UTILIZE THOSE FUNDS, HOW TO MAKE SURE THEY GET SPREAD OUT TO OTHER TOWNS THAT THAT CAN. 
          UM, AND THEN THEY'LL BE ABLE TO PICK THEIR PROJECTS FOR NEXT YEAR AT THAT TIME ALREADY. 
          SO A LITTLE MORE TIME TO, TO THINK ABOUT IT AND GET IT DONE BEFORE THEIR BUDGET SEASON. 
          UH, AGAIN, IT WAS, THIS IS ALL DONE AFTER MOST, I'M ASSUMING MOST OF THE TOWNS AND CITIES AND VILLAGE HAD THEIR BUDGETS COMPLETED ALREADY. 
          SO NEXT YEAR THEY, THEY KNOW THIS IS COMING FOR 25. 
          AND SO THAT LIST CAN CERTAINLY CHANGE, UH, JUST BECAUSE NOW THEY MIGHT SAY, WELL, WE'LL PUT A LITTLE BIT MORE ON MATERIALS. 
          'CAUSE THEN WE DON'T HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT THE LABOR OR EQUIPMENT COSTS COMING THROUGH. 
          SO THEY HAVE A LITTLE MORE TIME TO, TO THINK ABOUT IT GOING FORWARD. 
          SO I THINK THAT LIST WILL CHANGE, UM, POTENTIALLY SIGNIFICANTLY OVER THE FIRST TWO OR THREE YEARS ONCE WE GET INTO A PROGRAM. 
          THE FIRST YEAR IS ALWAYS GONNA BE, UH, A LITTLE MORE CHALLENGE FOR THE LOCAL MUNICIPALITIES AND, AND CERTAINLY OUR COUNTY TOO. 
          UM, YOU KNOW, WE LOOKED AT THAT AND WE DID THIS BACK IN JANUARY AND FEBRUARY AND OUR MASSIVE COST, WE JUST CAME IN MARCH AND THEY'RE 25% HIGHER. 
          GREAT. 
          SO I GOTTA GO BACK AND TALK TO THOSE TOWNS AND GOING, YEAH, THAT 5,000 A MILE IS NOW 7,500 A MILE JUST BECAUSE OF MATERIAL COSTS. 
          SO IT'LL BE INTERESTING WHEN WE SEE, LIKE YOU SAY, AFTER A FEW YEARS UNDER OUR BELT AND SEE HOW WE CAN TWEAK THIS AND IF WE CAN TAKE ON MORE OR JUST TO SEE WHERE IT'LL GO. 
          DOES ANYBODY ELSE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? I JUST HAVE A COMMENT. 
          SO I, I'VE BEEN INVOLVED WITH THIS FOR, FOR A WHILE. 
          UH, SUPERVISOR HARTWIG HAS AS WELL, I ACTUALLY CHAIRED THE COMMITTEE THAT DECIDED HOW THE ALLOCATION GOT DIVIDED UP. 
          AND I THINK IT WAS A LOT OF GOOD DISCUSSION IN THE ROOM, AND EVERYBODY FELT, I THINK IT WAS A UNANIMOUS VOTE YES. 
          IF I REMEMBER RIGHT, UM, AMONGST THE GROUP OF MUNICIPALITIES THAT WERE THERE TO DIVIDING UP THESE SERVICES. 
          AND LIKE SCOTT SAID, WE'RE GONNA MEET AGAIN SEPTEMBER EVERY YEAR, I BELIEVE, AND THEN REVISIT DOES IT NEED TO CHANGE THE ALLOCATION FORMULA? UM, BUT I THINK IT'S DEFINITELY A, A GOOD, GOOD PROGRAM AND A VERY MUCH A HELP FOR THESE COMMUNITIES THAT, I MEAN, THAT'S, THAT'S A LOT OF LABOR AND EQUIPMENT COSTS THAT'S SAVED. 
          SO 
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I JUST THINK IT'S A GOOD PROGRAM TO, TO GET UNDERWAY. 
          ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? JUST ONE WITH, UH, REGARD TO THE DISTRIBUTION. 
          IT LOOKS LIKE THE, UH, CITY OF WEST BEND, CITY OF HARTFORD, UM, VILLAGE OF KIOSKI ARE NOT INVOLVED. 
          IS THIS INTENDED TO BE A TWO YEAR SETTING OR, OR AS YOU SAID, THE ALLOTMENT WAS FOR 24 AND FOR 25, BUT THE DISTRIBUTION COULD BE DIFFERENT IN 25? I I WOULD SAY IT COULD DEFINITELY BE DIFFERENT. 
          IN 25, THE LOCAL OFFICIALS AGREED THAT THIS WAS A, A ONE YEAR, UM, UH, DECISION AND THAT TO BE MEETING IN SINCE SEPTEMBER. 
          AGAIN, IT, IT COULD BE THE SAME. 
          THEY COULD DECIDE ON 80 20, THEY COULD DECIDE ON 50 50. 
          THEY, THERE'S A LOT OF OTHER CATEGORIES TOO THAT WERE NOT INCLUDED. 
          LIKE EQUALIZED VALUE AND STUFF WAS NOT TAKEN INTO ACCOUNT. 
          AND OF COURSE, THOSE OTHER MUNICIPALITIES THAT WERE RECEIVING FUNDS IN OTHER CATEGORIES, YOU KNOW, AS WE DO MORE SHARED SERVICES THROUGH THE YEAR, THOSE CATEGORIES ARE CHANGED A LITTLE BIT MORE NOW THAT LET'S JUST PICK ON THE TOWN OF ADDISON'S DOING IT SERVICES NOW. 
          RIGHT. 
          SO NOW THEY MIGHT BE ABOVE THAT LINE. 
          I'M NOT SAYING THEY ARE, I JUST DON'T RECALL WHERE THE LINES WERE, UM, THAT THAT DATA WAS ALL GIVEN TO THE COMMITTEE. 
          AND, AND I'M SURE THE COMMITTEE MEMBERS HERE PROBABLY DON'T REMEMBER EXACTLY WHERE EVERYBODY WAS AT, AT THE LINES, BUT AS WE INCREASE THE SHARED SERVICES IN OTHER LOCATIONS, THIS ONE MIGHT GO DOWN FOR, FOR THOSE MUNICIPALITIES. 
          SO IT'S, IT'S DEFINITELY GONNA, IT'S OPEN TO CHANGE. 
          AND AGAIN, I, I ASSUME THAT SINCE THE, THE FIRST, UH, ITERATION OF THAT COMMITTEE WORK, WORK DID WORK SO WELL THAT AGAIN, WE'D LET THAT COMMITTEE MAKE THAT DECISION AND, AND WORK, WORK THAT THROUGH. 
          AGAIN, THE, THE, I WAS THERE TO REPRESENT, UH, THE COUNTY AS FAR AS TO PROVIDE DIRECTION, UM, AS FAR AS INFORMATION, MORE OR LESS, I SHOULD SAY, NOT DIRECTION, BUT INFORMATION TO THAT COMMITTEE. 
          MM-HMM, . 
          YEAH. 
          I JUST HAVE A KIND OF A CLARIFICATION TO THAT TOO, MAYBE TO HELP ME UNDERSTAND. 
          THERE, THERE, WHEN SCOTT SAYS THE, THE LINE ABOVE AND BELOW THE LINE, SO THERE'S A VERY, THERE'S ANOTHER FORMULA FOR SHARED SERVICES AND THE COMMUNITIES THAT WERE, I MEAN, THIS GROUP DECIDED AS A WHOLE, THE COMMUNITIES THAT ARE NOT IN THIS PROGRAM ARE ONES THAT BASED ON THAT FORMULA, ARE RECEIVING THEIR ALLOTMENT BASED ON THAT SHARED SERVICES. 
          SO YOU ASK THEM IS, YOU KNOW, GETTING OTHER SERVICES, GERMANTOWN, HER, SO THEY WERE ABOVE THE LINE, AND THE ONES THAT WERE BELOW WHAT THE FORMULA SAYS THEY SHOULD GET, WERE INCLUDED IN THIS TO TRY TO GET THEM CLOSER TO, I DON'T HAVE THE CHART WITH ME, BUT IT WOULD MAKE SENSE IF YOU SAW THAT TO A VISUAL, BUT THAT'S WHY THEY'RE, THEY'RE NOT IN THIS, BUT THEY COULD BE NEXT YEAR. 
          BUT IT'S, THEY COULD BE TAKEN OUT OF IT TOO IF THE COMMITTEE DECIDES THAT BECAUSE ALL OF A SUDDEN, UM, CHECKS, I'M JUST, I SHOULDN'T EVEN SAY IT, BUT IF THEY GET RID OF A SERVICE AND DECIDE TO GO WITH A COUNTY THAT MAY MOVE THEM ABOVE THE LINE, AND THEN THE COMMITTEE MIGHT JUST SAY, WELL, THEY'RE, THEY'RE GETTING THEIR FAIR SHARE, SO THEY'RE OUT OF THIS POT OR SOMETHING. 
          YEP. 
          YOU KNOW, THAT'S WHY WE'RE GONNA MEET EVERY YEAR TO REVIEW. 
          MAKES SENSE. 
          WELL, AND ANOTHER EXAMPLE OF THAT TOO IS LIKE THE TOWN OF WEST BEND, WHEN THEY'RE LOOKING AT THEIR IT SHARED SERVICES, THEY DIDN'T WANT TO COME FORWARD WITH THE MONEY RIGHT OUT FRONT TO BUY ALL THAT EQUIPMENT. 
          MM-HMM. 
          , YOU KNOW, 'CAUSE THEY GOTTA BUY THE EQUIPMENT AND RIT GUYS GO AND SET IT UP. 
          SO THEY MIGHT TABLE THAT FOR A YEAR. 
          WELL, NOW THEY'RE PROBABLY BELOW IF THEY DON'T MOVE FORWARD WITH THAT. 
          RIGHT. 
          SO NOW YOU GOTTA TWEAK IN. 
          SO YEAH, THIS, LIKE I SAID, IT'S A LEARNING CURVE AND IT'S GONNA BE INTERESTING TO SEE WHERE IT GOES MOVING FORWARD. 
          AND THERE'S OTHER SHARED SERVICES COMING. 
          WE TALK ABOUT THE PLANNER, IF YOU HAVE RECALL PLANNER, UH, YOU'LL SEE WHAT THE, UH, TOWN OF WEST BEND IS LOOKING AT, UM, A POTENTIAL POLICE OFFICER SHARING SERVICES. 
          SO, UM, OR SHERIFF'S DEPUTY, EXCUSE ME. 
          UM, SO THERE'S OTHER STUFF THAT'S COMING THIS YEAR TOO THAT MIGHT, BEFORE SEPTEMBER EVEN CHANGE THAT LINE AS FAR AS WHO WAS ABOVE IT AND BELOW IT. 
          GREAT. 
          ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? GOOD. 
          YOU SEEING NONE? LET'S SEE. 
          WE'RE ON THE ROADWAY SAFETY PLAN REVIEW. 
          UH, YES. 
          I'LL, I'LL BE TAKING THIS ONE. 
          UH, AND TO GIVE CREDIT WHERE CREDIT IS DUE ON THIS, JOSH GLASS IN OUR OFFICE HAS DONE THE, THE LION'S SHARE THE BULK OF THE WORK. 
          I, 
          [d. Roadway Safety Plan Review]
I REVIEWED IT. 
          UH, BUT, UH, JOSH WAS ABLE TO OUT A LION'S SHARE THE WORK, UH, TO A HIGH LEVEL THAT, UH, WE HAVE DONE AN INTERSECTION SAFETY PLAN SEVERAL YEARS AGO. 
          AND NOW WE'RE LOOKING AT THOSE, THOSE ROADWAY SEGMENTS BETWEEN THE INTERSECTIONS. 
          AND WHAT I MEAN BY THAT IS ROADWAYS THAT ARE OUTSIDE 250 FEET OF THE INTERSECTION, WE CONSIDER EVERYTHING WITHIN 250 FEET OF THE INTERSECTION, BASICALLY AN INTERSECTION RELATED CRASH. 
          AND OUTSIDE OF 250 FEET IS A ROADWAY RELATED CRASH. 
          UH, WE HAD TO MAKE THE BRAKE SOMEWHERE. 
          AND SO THAT MADE SENSE LOGICALLY. 
          UM, AND IF IT DOESN'T, WE CAN CERTAINLY HAVE THAT DISCUSSION LATER ON. 
          BUT, BUT THAT'S THE WAY WE KINDA MAKE SURE WE'RE NOT DOUBLE DIPPING ON THE CRASHES THAT ONE'S CLOSE BY OR, OR NOT, AND SAYING, OH, CAN WE GO ALL THE WAY TO CENTER OF INTERSECTION? 
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UM, 'CAUSE DEFINITELY THAT OUT IN THE MORE RURAL AREAS VERSUS THE INTERSECTIONS ARE DEFINITELY THINGS YOU DO DIFFERENTLY TO MITIGATE THOSE CRASHES, UM, AT THOSE SYSTEMS. SO, SO THAT'S WHAT WE DID. 
          WE LOOKED AT THAT SAME DATA BETWEEN 28 AND 22 TO LOOK AT THE SAME DATA THAT WE LOOKED AT FOR INTERSECTIONS. 
          WE'RE LOOKING AT FOR THE ROADWAY SAFETY ANALYSIS. 
          AND AGAIN, ONCE WE'RE LOOKING AT, ONCE WE GET THIS COMPLETED FOR WASHINGTON COUNTY, UH, WE CERTAINLY EXTEND THAT OUT TO THE LOCAL MUNICIPALITIES AS WELL TO SEE IF THERE'S SOMETHING WE CAN DO THERE TO HELP THEM LOOK AT THEIR, THEIR CRASHES AND, UH, TO HELP MITIGATE THOSE BECAUSE IT'S JUST A GOOD POLICY AND PRACTICE THEY HAVE IN, IN WASHINGTON COUNTY. 
          SO I HAVE A, A SEVERAL PAGE DOCUMENT THAT THAT'S IN THERE. 
          AND WHAT WE'D LIKE TO DO IS KINDA KEEP IT, UH, A LITTLE, LITTLE BIT HIGH LEVEL TODAY. 
          IF YOU LOOKED AT THE END ALREADY OR GOT TO THE END TO REVIEW IT, YOU'LL SEE A LOT OF THE ANALYSIS AND NOT LET GET COMPLETED. 
          WE'LL BE WORKING WITH SEWER PACK, WE'LL BE WORKING WITH THE DOT ENGINEERS TO HELP US GET THOSE, THAT DATA AND TAKE ALL THOSE CRASH REPORTS, LOOK AT THE EACH INDIVIDUAL CRASH REPORT AND, AND SEE WHAT, WHAT COULD BE DONE, UM, TO HOPEFULLY MITIGATE THOSE, THOSE CIRCUMSTANCES. 
          SO YOU'LL SEE AT THE END, IT'S, IT'S DEFINITELY NOT COMPLETE, IT'S DEFINITELY A DRAFT VERSION AT THIS POINT, BUT TO GIVE YOU KIND OF THE, HOW WE DID THE ANALYSIS AND WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT, AND THEN KIND OF, UM, WE CERTAINLY CAN, UH, DIVE INTO ONE OR TWO AT THE END, BUT, UH, WE'RE, WE'RE JUST NOT READY TO, TO REALLY TALK ABOUT EACH ONE, BUT WE'D LOVE TO BRING THIS BACK AND WITH A MORE DETAILED ON THOSE AND SAYING, THIS IS A PROBLEM WE'RE SEEING, BUT THIS IS OUR SOLUTION AND, AND LET'S GIVE THAT A TRY. 
          UH, AND SO AGAIN, THE PURPOSE OF ANALYSIS IS OBVIOUSLY WE, WE WANT SAFE ROADS IN, IN WASHINGTON COUNTY. 
          UM, I THINK THAT'S A, A COMMON GOAL, NOT JUST OF THE, THE COUNTY, BUT ALL LOCAL MUNICIPALITIES AS WELL. 
          AND THAT'S WHY WE WILL BE EXTENDING THIS PROGRAM, UH, TO THOSE LOCAL, UH, UH, MUNICIPALITIES WHO, WHO'D WISH THAT, UH, GOING FORWARD. 
          SO UNDER ONE IS THE PURPOSE, AND YOU KIND OF SEE THE, THE CRASHES KINDA GIVE YOU SOME, SOME DATA FROM WISCONSIN TO SEE WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE. 
          UM, STATEWIDE, UH, WE ARE ABLE TO ATE FROM THE DATABASE, UH, FROM THE, THE COMMUNITY MAPS. 
          UH, IF YOU'RE NOT FAMILIAR WITH COMMUNITY MAPS, YOU CAN CERTAINLY DO A, A SEARCH FOR COMMUNITY MAPS, UH, THAT HAS ALL THE CRASHES IN FROM 2017 ON. 
          AND, AND THEY'RE DOING THEIR A JOB OF TRYING TO GET THE ONES, UH, POST, UH, OR PRE 2017. 
          AND SO, AND WE GET THE DATA BEHIND THE SCENES AND IT'S A, IT'S A WONDERFUL WEBSITE. 
          I HIGHLY RECOMMEND, UH, THOSE THAT ARE INTERESTED IN CRASHES TO LOOK AT THAT. 
          BUT, UM, UH, WITH THAT DATA, WE'RE ABLE TO DO A LOT OF THIS ANALYSIS AND WE WORKED VERY CLOSELY WITH OUR GIS DEPARTMENT WHO WAS INSTRUMENTAL ON HELPING UP WITH THAT. 
          UH, YOU'LL REMEMBER THAT FROM THE INTERSECTION, THE FUNCTIONAL CLASSIFICATIONS OF ROAD ARTERIAL COLLECTORS AND LOCALS. 
          BASICALLY, YOU CAN THINK ABOUT IN THE COMMON AND THE HIGHEST LEVEL THAT ARTERIAL HAS A LOT OF TRAFFIC AND LOCALS DON'T HAVE A LOT OF TRAFFIC, BUT, UM, BUT THEY'RE SPLIT OUT. 
          UH, MAP ONE SHOWS ALL THE COUNTY HIGHWAY SYSTEM, AGAIN, WE'RE LOOKING AT, UH, JUST THE COUNTY HIGHWAY SYSTEM FOR NOW TO SEE ABOUT CRASHES AND THEN RELATES RIGHT TO THE JURISDICTIONAL AUTHORITY OF THE COUNTY. 
          UM, SO AGAIN, COUNTY HIGHWAYS, WE HAVE JURISDICTION OVER THOSE AND WE CONTROL THOSE. 
          UM, IF IT'S A LOCAL ROAD, IT'S A LOC MUNICIPALITY THAT CONTROLS WHAT, WHAT THEY CAN OR, OR CANNOT DO IN THOSE ROADWAYS FOR CERTAIN IMPROVEMENTS. 
          AND, AND WE SHOW THE FUNCTIONAL CLASSIFICATION MAP, THEN WE GO THROUGH AND JUST LIKE THE INTERSECTION, WE LOOK AT THREE DIFFERENT CATEGORIES FOR THE CRASHES. 
          UM, TOTAL CRASHES IN THE SEGMENT, UH, IS CERTAINLY IMPORTANT. 
          UH, BUT THEN WE ALSO WANNA LOOK AT THE CRASHES THAT OCCUR PER VEHICLE, UH, TRAVELING THAT ROAD BASE SECTION OR CRASH RATE, AGAIN, TRYING TO AMORTIZE AND GET ALL THOSE CRASHES INTO. 
          UM, AND THIS CATEGORY, IF YOU HAVE A ROAD WITH 500 VEHICLES AND YOU HAVE ONE CRASH, AND YOU HAVE A ROAD WITH A THOUSAND VEHICLES A DAY WITH ONE CRASH, THE ONE WITH ONLY 500 VEHICLES A DAY IS, IS A HIGHER CRASH RATE, RIGHT? ONE CRASH PER 500 VEHICLES VERSUS ONE CRASH FOR A THOUSAND VEHICLES. 
          AND, UH, OF COURSE, HOW WE GOTTA DO THIS OUT BECAUSE IT'S, IT'S FOR ALSO LARGER ROADS. 
          WE DO THAT CRASHES PER MILLION VEHICLES. 
          SO WE TAKE THAT 500, MULTIPLY IT BY WHATEVER IT TAKES TO GET TO THAT TWO BA MILLION AND MULTIPLY THE TOP NUMBER BY THE SAME NUMBER. 
          UH, AND THEN OF COURSE, WE GOT CRASH SEVERITY. 
          AND THAT'S SO IMPORTANT THAT WE LOOK AT NOT ONLY HOW MANY CRASHES HAPPENED THERE, BUT HOW SEVERE ARE THEY. 
          I KNOW AT THE INTERSECTION ANALYSIS JOSH WENT THROUGH WITH YOU, YOU KNOW, A CRASH DOWN ON HIGHWAY Q WHEN IT'S, YOU KNOW, 25 MILES AN HOUR, IT'S A FENDER BENDER IS ONE THING. 
          A CRASH, MAYBE UP ON HIGHWAY XX, THAT'S TWO CARS HITTING EACH OTHER AT 55 MILES AN HOUR IS A BUNCH OF DIFFERENT SITUATION. 
          SO WE WANNA MAKE SURE WE'RE LOOKING AT THE CRASH SEVERITY AS WELL. 
          SO AGAIN, USING THAT, THE GS MAPPING, WE ABLE TO MAP OUT THOSE, UH, SEGMENTS ON THE ROADWAY. 
          THAT'S, THAT'S MAP NUMBER THREE. 
          UH, WE'RE GONNA CHANGE THOSE DOT COLORS FROM RED BECAUSE IN ALL THE OTHER ANALYSIS, THE RED DOTS MEANS A FATALITY. 
          AND SO EVERY TIME I LOOK AT THIS MAP GOING THAT, THIS LOOKS REALLY HORRIBLE TO ME, BUT, UH, BUT WE, WE SEGMENTED THE ROADS AS, AS BEST WE COULD. 
          UH, SOME, SOME SEGMENTS ARE LONGER THAN OTHERS. 
          WE KIND OF MORE OR LESS WENT FROM INTERSECTION TO INTERSECTION TO TRY TO DO THAT. 
          AGAIN, JOSH MENTIONS THE DATA SOURCES AND RESULTS. 
          SO AGAIN, WE TALKED ABOUT THE DIFFERENT FORMULAS 
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AND THEN, UH, WE THEN HAVE NUMBERS TO LOOK AT. 
          AND SO TABLE THREE SHOWS, WELL, THE CRASHES WITH THE, THE SEGMENTS OF ROADWAYS WITH THE MOST TOTAL CRASHES. 
          AND THEN WE HAVE THOSE LISTED THERE. 
          AND WHAT WE'RE GONNA DO WITH THOSE, AND YOU'LL SEE DOWN BELOW IS REALLY DIVE INTO THAT AND GET ALL THE DATA FROM ALL THOSE CRASHES AND LOOK AND SEE AND SAY, WHAT CAN WE DO HERE? AND LOOK AT THE COUNTY HIGHWAY KAY AND SHOWER DRIVE, IF YOU'RE FAMILIAR WITH THAT ONE. 
          THAT'S ON JUST SOUTH OF HIGHWAY 60 BY THE QUICKTRIP. 
          AND SO OBVIOUSLY WE'LL BE LOOKING AT, WELL, HOW WAS THAT ROADWAY BEFORE THE QUICKTRIP CAME IN? AND IS IT THE QUICKTRIP THAT'S CAUSING THOSE CRASHES? WHAT'S, WHAT'S CAUSING THOSE CRASHES THERE? IS IT? AND, UH, AND AGAIN, WE'LL LOOK AT ALL THE OTHER ROADWAYS THAT, THAT ARE THERE AS WELL. 
          UM, WE WON'T GO INTO GREAT DETAIL TODAY. 
          WE'D LIKE TO TAKE, TAKE THE TIME TO ACTUALLY SPEND SOME TIME HAVING US LOOK AT THOSE AND PROVIDE OUR, OUR ANALYSIS OF THOSE AND WITH THE CRASH REPORTS AND, UH, HOPEFULLY SOLUTIONS THAT ARE, THAT ARE THERE, UM, TO HELP YOU OUT. 
          AND WE GOT THE CRASH RATE. 
          UM, AND AGAIN, THAT, UH, WE'VE GOT MAP THREE AND MAP FOUR THAT SHOWS WHERE THOSE LOCATIONS ARE IN THE COUNTY, UH, WITH THE HIGHEST CRASH RATES. 
          UM, YOU SEE THAT A LOT OF 'EM DON'T, DON'T QUITE DOUBLE UP, BUT AGAIN, WE'LL BE LOOKING AT FOR THE HIGHEST CRASH RATES WE HAVE, UH, AS I MENTIONED, XX BEFORE BETWEEN KOHLER AND JAY ROAD. 
          AND SO WE HAVE A, WE'LL HAVE A ROADWAY PROFILE IN THERE. 
          IT'LL SHOW THE NUMBER OF CRASHES, ALL THAT KINDA STUFF, VERY SIMILAR TO WHAT WE DID FOR THE INTERSECTION SAFETY ANALYSIS AND THEN CRASH SEVERITY. 
          AND WE'VE GOT THE TOP FIVE THAT ARE, UH, RATED FOR, FOR CRASH SEVERITY, AND THEN WHERE THEY'RE AT IN THE APPENDIX DOWN BELOW. 
          AND THEN AGAIN, MAP FIVE IS, UH, THOSE LOCATIONS TO GIVE YOU KINDA A FEEL FOR WHERE THOSE ARE, ARE IN THE COUNTY. 
          UM, WE'RE GONNA WORK WITH OUR SEWER PACK AND, AND DOT ENGINEERS FOR EXISTING AND PROJECTED TRAFFIC VOLUMES TO SEE IF THERE'S A ANALYSIS ON THAT TO SEE IF THERE'S A ISSUE THERE. 
          AND THEN, UH, WENT RIGHT INTO THE PROFILES OF THE ROADWAY, UH, FUNDING SOURCE. 
          AGAIN, THAT, THAT TABLE IS NOT COMPLETE BECAUSE WE HAVEN'T DONE OUR COMPLETE ANALYSIS ON IT YET. 
          THEN WE'LL HAVE A, A SUMMARY THAT'S GOT A LITTLE MORE DETAIL IN IT ONCE WE, UM, ARE ABLE TO ADDRESS THAT. 
          BUT TABLE SEVEN, IF YOU, IF YOU SEE THAT THAT'S ON PAGE 33 OF YOUR PACKET, UH, IT'S KINDA NICE TABLE THAT JOSH PUT TOGETHER OF, UH, THE RANKINGS, EACH OF THE CATEGORIES. 
          YOU CAN SEE THAT SOME OF THEM DID DOUBLE UP A LITTLE BIT. 
          UM, THAT EVEN IF, UM, THEY WERE, UM, HIGH IN CRASH RATE AND HIGH IN SEVERITY, UM, YOU KNOW, THOSE ONES THAT MAKE SURE WE'RE TAKING ESPECIALLY ATTENTION TO, BUT ALSO SHOWS YOU WHAT, WHAT CATEGORY THEY ARE IN. 
          THE OTHER CATEGORIES TO SAY THAT, YEAH, IT'S IN VERY HIGH FOR A CRASH RATE, BUT IT'S IN, UH, I'LL PICK ON COUNTY XX AND J ROAD. 
          AGAIN, THE CRASH RATE IS PRETTY HIGH. 
          THE TOTAL CRASHES THOUGH IS OBVIOUSLY VERY LOW, RIGHT? THEY'RE A HUNDRED PLUS IN THAT CATEGORY, SO RANKING WISE, AND SO YOU CAN SAY, YEAH, THERE'S PROBABLY NOT A LOT OF CRASHES, BUT THEY'RE PRETTY SEVERE, UM, THE ONES THAT DID HAVE IN THAT AREA. 
          SO AGAIN, FOURTH IN CRASH RATE AND NINTH IN SEVERITY. 
          SO AGAIN, UH, WE'LL TAKE A LOOK AT THAT. 
          AND THEN MAP SIX KIND OF COMBINES ALL THOSE DATA TOGETHER SO YOU CAN KINDA SEE, UH, WHERE THEY ARE THROUGHOUT THE, THROUGHOUT THE COUNTY. 
          AND THEN, UM, I'LL JUST, UH, TURN YOUR ATTENTION TO THE APPENDIX C ONE, PAGE 35 OF YOUR, YOUR PACKET. 
          BASICALLY COUNTY HIGHWAY K FROM SHOWER DRIVE TO 60, AS I MENTIONED EARLIER. 
          AND THIS IS WHAT YOU CAN KIND OF EXPECT. 
          UH, YOU'LL SEE THAT, UH, THE TOTAL CRASH, UM, IS RANKED NUMBER ONE. 
          IT'S IN THE CITY OF HARTFORD, THE PROBLEM, HIGH NUMBER OF CRASHES. 
          YOU'LL SEE SOME IMAGES. 
          THE PICTURE ON THE LEFT HAND SIDE SHOWS WHERE THOSE CRASHES ARE BY GREENER YELLOW DOTS. 
          UH, YOU'LL SEE AGAIN THAT THEY'RE OUTSIDE OF THE INTERSECTION OF 60 AND OUTSIDE THE INTERSECTION OF SHOWER DRIVE, YOU'LL HAVE A LOT MORE DATA IN THERE, LIKE TOTAL CRASHES, WHEN DO THEY HAPPEN? WERE THEY, YOU KNOW, WET CONDITIONS, YOU KNOW, NIGHT CONDITIONS, ALL THAT INFORMATION. 
          WAS IT IMPAIRED DRIVERS? UH, SO WE'LL, WE'LL LOOK THROUGH THOSE CATEGORIES AND, AND DOWN BELOW AND SEE POTENTIAL PROBLEMS. WE'LL, WE'LL ADD MORE TO THOSE, UH, PROVIDE A NARRATIVE OF THOSE. 
          AND AGAIN, YOU'LL SEE THE POTENTIAL SOLUTION IS, IS BLANK AS WELL. 
          AGAIN, NOT TO TO SPEND TIME, BUT WE WILL BE GOING THROUGH THESE IN MORE DETAIL ONCE WE HAVE A LITTLE MORE INFORMATION. 
          BUT YOU'LL SEE PROFILES THAT ARE SET UP FOR EACH OF THE INTERSECTIONS THAT, THAT WE TALKED ABOUT ABOVE. 
          SO, UM, ONCE WE GET INTO THOSE, IF THERE'S QUESTIONS ON THOSE, WE CERTAINLY CAN TRY TO ANSWER THOSE TODAY. 
          BUT, UH, THE INTENTION WAS TO GIVE YOU KIND OF A NICE OVERVIEW TODAY SO THAT NEXT TIME WE MEET, WE'LL BE BASICALLY SPENDING OUR TIME LOOKING AT ALL THESE PROFILES, UM, AND NOT REALLY TOO MUCH TIME SPENDING ON THE, ON THE FRONT END AND WHY WE'RE DOING WHAT WE'RE DOING. 
          UM, HOPEFULLY THAT WASN'T TOO QUICK OF AN EXPLANATION. 
          CERTAINLY, UH, YOU DO HAVE THE INFORMATION TO READ OVER BETWEEN NOW AND THEN. 
          IT'LL PROBABLY BE ANOTHER TWO MONTHS OR SO BY THE TIME WE BRING THIS BACK. 
          UH, WE DON'T WANT TO, WE DON'T WANNA DO THIS ONE IN INTERSECTION AT THE SAME COMMITTEE MEETING BECAUSE I THINK THAT MIGHT BE JUST A LITTLE BIT TOO MUCH. 
          BUT, UH, WE'LL SEPARATE THOSE ALL OVER TWO MEETINGS, UH, PROVIDE YOU TIME TO LOOK AT THOSE AND, UH, PROVIDE, UH, HOPEFULLY SOME SOLUTION TO THESE AREAS THAT WE CAN, UM, CAN WORK ON AND MAKE OUR ROADS SAFER IN WASHINGTON COUNTY. 
          OKAY, THANK YOU. 
          ANY QUESTIONS? SEEING NONE. 
          I SEE WE'VE 
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PLENTY THOROUGH A LOT OF INFORMATION IN HERE. 
          YEP. 
          THERE'S A LOT TO, UH, YEAH, THERE'S, THERE'S A LOT TO ABSORB. 
          I'M, I'M REALLY, REALLY HAPPY AND PROUD OF JOSH TO PUT THIS TOGETHER. 
          UM, AND, AND, UH, REALLY GLAD THAT, UH, THE COUNTY EXECUTIVE HAS ALLOW US TO KEEP THIS AS A, AS A PRIORITY FOR, FOR WASHINGTON COUNTY GOING, GOING FORWARD. 
          AND, AND REALLY LOOKING FORWARD TO WORKING WITH THE LOCAL MUNICIPALITIES ON THIS AS WELL, BECAUSE, WELL, HOWEVER, WE DO PROVIDE THEM A TOTAL CRASH MAP. 
          IT'S ANOTHER THING TO PROVIDE A LITTLE BIT OF ANALYSIS FOR THEM WHERE THEY DON'T HAVE A LOT OF THE STAFF TIME AND, UH, EXPERTISE TO ACTUALLY DO THAT OUT IN LOCAL AREAS. 
          AND IT COULD BE SOMETHING AS SIMPLE AS, UH, YOU KNOW, WE DID A CURVE ANALYSIS SEVERAL YEARS AGO AND WE PUT UP CHEVRONS ON CURVES AND ALL. 
          WE PUT SOME EDGE LINE RUMBLE STRIPS ON CURVES, AND, AND YOU'LL SEE THAT, I THINK THE RESULT IS AMAZING THAT A LOT OF THOSE WHERE THOSE CRASHES ARE, I'LL TAKE XX OUTTA THE EQUATION. 
          UM, WERE NOT ON CURVES, UH, BECAUSE WE DID AN ANALYSIS SEVERAL YEARS BACK AND MADE SURE THAT THE PROPER SIGNAGE WAS UP OR OTHER AMENITIES. 
          'CAUSE WE SAW WE HAD ISSUES WITH SEVERAL OF OUR CURVES IN OUR COUNTY. 
          UH, XX IS AN OUTLIER. 
          WE ACTUALLY DID REDO THE CURVE THERE SEVERAL YEARS BACK, RECONSTRUCTED ONE. 
          UH, BUT WE'RE STILL HAVING PROBLEMS WITH A SEGMENT JUST WEST OF WHERE WE DID THAT CURVE WORK. 
          SO, UM, WE GOT WORK TO DO. 
          WE'RE NOT, NOT SAYING WE'RE DONE, UH, NOT A BIG PAT IN THE BACK, BUT, UH, WE'RE WILLING TO LOOK AT OUR ROADWAYS AND NOT JUST TURN A BLIND EYE, BLIND EYE TO IT. 
          I GOT A COMMENT IF YOU, I'M TALKATIVE TODAY. 
          GO AHEAD. 
          SO I SAT THROUGH THE TRAFFIC SAFETY MEETING AND JUST WAS PRESENTED TO THEM AS WELL. 
          DID, IF I AM MEMORY SERVES ME, THE DOT SAID WASHINGTON COUNTY IS THE ONLY ONE THAT DOES THIS, CORRECT? THIS TYPE OF, UH, SO IT'S BOTH OF THESE, THE INTERSECTION AND THE ROADWAY SAFETY YES. 
          INTERSECTION. 
          WAS IT INTERSECTION OR WAS IT BOTH? BOTH. 
          BOTH. 
          OKAY. 
          YEAH. 
          SO I JUST WANTED TO SHARE THAT, THAT THEY, THE DOT EXPRESSED THAT THEY WERE, THEY'RE IMPRESSED WITH IT. 
          MINNESOTA, DOT DOES A GREAT JOB AT THIS, AND WE DO STEAL SOME OF THEIR IDEAS IN, IN FULL DISCLOSURE, WISCONSIN. 
          DOT DOES NOT. 
          BUT IT WAS INTERESTING TO LEARN THAT YES, THAT THERE'S NOWHERE ELSE IN THE STATE THAT DOES THIS ANALYSIS. 
          YOU'LL, ONCE WE HAVE THESE COMPLETE, YOU'LL PROBABLY SEE IT AT ONE OF OUR HIGHWAY CONFERENCES, A PRESENTATION BY JOSH AND MYSELF GET THE WORD OUT THERE. 
          INTERESTING. 
          NO OTHER QUESTIONS. 
          WE'LL MOVE ON TO THE 2050 TRANSPORTATION NETWORK SUSTAINABILITY PLAN FOR THE CITY OF HARTFORD AND THE TOWN OF FARMINGTON. 
          UH, THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN. 
          YES, WE'VE BEEN, WE'VE BEEN WORKING ON THESE FOR, FOR QUITE SOME TIME FOR THESE TWO MUNICIPALITIES. 
          [e. 2050 Transportation Network Sustainability Plan for City of Hartford and Town of Farmington]
UM, I WAS HOPING TO MEET WITH BOTH OF THOSE, UM, MUNICIPALITIES THIS WEEK. 
          UNFORTUNATELY, WE HAD TO, UM, WASN'T ABLE TO MEET WITH THE CITY OF HARTFORD THIS WEEK. 
          I AM HOPING TO GET A, ANOTHER MEETING SCHEDULED WITH THEM SHORTLY. 
          I WAS ABLE TO MEET WITH TOWN OF TOWN OF FARMINGTON JUST BEFORE THIS. 
          AND, UH, LOOKING AT OUR, OUR PLAN IS, UH, WE GONNA MAKE SOME MODIFICATIONS TO OUR PROGRAM BEHIND THE SCENES. 
          UH, YOU MIGHT RECALL THE ONES WE DID WAS FOR WASHINGTON COUNTY, UH, CITY OF WEST BEND AND VILLAGE OF KIOSKI. 
          UH, TOWN OF FARMINGTON IS OUR GUINEA PIG FOR OUR TOWNS. 
          AND SO THERE'S SOME, SOME THINGS THAT MIGHT HAVE TO CHANGE A LITTLE BIT WITH OUR COMPUTER PROGRAM. 
          AND I'LL, I'LL WORK WITH OUR IT DEPARTMENT AND AND GS DEPARTMENT TO, TO TRY TO MAKE THAT HAPPEN. 
          SO IT MIGHT BE ANOTHER, A MONTH OR TWO BEFORE YOU'D SEE THESE COME BACK AND FINALIZE AS WELL WITH, UH, THE SITUATION WITH THE CITY OF HARTFORD. 
          IT, IT, UM, ONCE THAT BALANCE ITSELF OUT AS WELL, WE'LL BE ABLE TO GET BACK ON TRACK WITH, WITH THEM. 
          UM, AND I'M, I'M CONFIDENT WE WILL, UH, WITH BOTH MISS PALS FINISHED THOSE AND IN THE NEXT SEVERAL MONTHS, UH, TO GET THOSE DONE. 
          AND THEN, UH, ONCE THOSE ARE DONE, UM, I PURPOSELY DID NOT INCLUDE DRAFTS IN, IN THIS, IN THIS VERSION. 
          'CAUSE I DO FEEL IT'S IMPORTANT FOR THE, THE LOCAL OFFICIALS TO SIGN OFF ON IT FIRST, UH, BEFORE THEY'RE OUT THERE AND, AND AVAILABLE TO THE PUBLIC BECAUSE THEY MIGHT NOT KNOW THAT IT'S A DRAFT VERSION. 
          AND, AND THINK OF IT AS, OH, THEY'RE DOING MY ROAD IN 2032 AND, AND, UH, REALLY THAT WE HAVEN'T REALLY GOTTEN THAT LEVEL OF DETAIL YET. 
          UM, SO THAT'S WHY I DIDN'T INCLUDE IT, BUT IT'LL LOOK VERY SIMILAR TO, UH, THE TWO PREVIOUS MUNICIPALITIES PLANS WE'RE. 
          WE'RE LOOKING FORWARD TO GETTING THOSE COMPLETED AND OUT TO THOSE. 
          AND THEN, UH, ONCE THOSE, UH, LOCAL OFFICIALS HAVE, UH, REVIEWED THE PLAN, AND IT'LL PROBABLY BRING THEM BACK AT, AT THAT POINT, THAT, UM, I THINK IT'S ONLY FAIR THAT THEY SEE THE PLAN BEFORE THE PUBLIC WORKS, UH, COMMITTEE DOES. 
          SO WE'D BE WORKING WITH THEM FIRST, AND YOU'LL SEE IT BACK HERE AS KIND OF A DRAFT VERSION, BASICALLY ANSWER ANY, ANY QUESTIONS AND I SHOW YOU THAT THEY'RE COMPLETE AND, AND HOW WE'RE DOING ON THOSE. 
          AND WE'LL BE SOLICITING, UH, THE NEXT GROUP AS WELL. 
          SOUNDS GOOD. 
          ANY QUESTIONS AND NONE, WE'LL MOVE ON TO THE RESOLUTION. 
          COUNTY AIDED BRIDGE AND CULVERT REPLACEMENT FOR THE TOWN OF FARMINGTON. 
          I'LL NEED A MOTION IN A SECOND MOTION FROM SUPERVISOR HARTWIG, SECOND FROM SUPERVISOR SCHWAB. 
          [f. 2023 Resolution: County Aided Bridge and Culvert Replacement – Town of Farmington]
PRETTY STRAIGHTFORWARD. 
          I DON'T KNOW, IS THERE, IF YOU 
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HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, THE PROJECT CAME IN JUST A LITTLE BIT OVER THE ORIGINAL ESTIMATE BY ABOUT $3,600. 
          THEY'RE LOOKING AT, UH, SPLITTING THAT COST ABOUT $1,800 FROM THE FUND. 
          IF YOU RECALL, WE, THE FUND STARTED OVER AT THE BEGINNING OF THE YEAR. 
          UH, WE DID DO A TOWN OF JACKSON, UH, PROJECT EARLIER FOR ABOUT 8,000, IF I REMEMBER CORRECTLY. 
          UM, I DON'T RECALL THE EXACT NUMBER ON THAT. 
          SO OBVIOUSLY THERE'S FUNDS TO DO THIS. 
          ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? I'LL ABSTAIN. 
          , WE GOT ONE ABSTAIN. 
          OKAY, SO NO OTHER QUESTIONS. 
          UH, ALL APPROVED, SAY AYE. 
          AYE. 
          AYE. 
          ANY OPPOSED? ALL APPROVED AND ONE ABSTAIN. 
          MOVING ON TO THE NEXT ITEM DISCUSSION REGARDING ORDINANCE IT TRANSITION FROM EXECUTIVE COMMITTEE TO PUBLIC WORKS COMMITTEE. 
          SO YES, OUR WORKLOAD'S GETTING BUSIER,  , UH, IF, IF I MAY, UH, THIS WENT TO EXECUTIVE 
          [g. Discussion Regarding Ordinance IT Transition from Executive Committee to Public Works Committee]
COMMITTEE, UH, LAST NIGHT, DID GET APPROVED UNANIMOUS, THIS WAS GOING TO THEM FOR THEIR APPROVAL. 
          UM, IT'S ALSO COMING TO YOU. 
          UH, THIS IS NOT A RESOLUTION, THIS IS JUST A, A DISCUSSION ITEM FOR, FOR THIS GROUP BECAUSE THAT DECISION WAS TO BE MADE BY THE EXECUTIVE COMMITTEE. 
          UH, SO THIS IS HERE FOR, FOR INFORMATION PURPOSES, BUT AS, UH, CHAIRMAN SHUTTER POINTED OUT THAT IT, UH, AT THE END OF FEBRUARY IS TRANSFERRED UNDER UNDERNEATH ME AS A CABINET MEMBER. 
          AND SO TO LIGHTEN MY WORKLOAD UP A LITTLE BIT AND NOT HAVE TO ATTEND EVERY EXECUTIVE COMMITTEE AND EVERY PUBLIC WORKS COMMITTEE, UM, YOUR, YOUR WORKLOAD INCREASED . 
          AND SO, UH, WE'D BE BRINGING THOSE INFORMATION. 
          SO YOU'LL SEE THE, IT'S QUARTERLY REPORTS, UH, ANY FUNDING NEEDS THAT, THAT COME THROUGH THE, THE SYSTEM AS WELL. 
          UM, SO YOU'LL SEE IT STUFF TO PUBLIC WORKS, UH, COMMITTEE, AGAIN, NOT KNOWING WHAT THAT'S GONNA LOOK LIKE FOLLOWING THE ELECTIONS, BUT, UM, IF YOU'RE ALL BACK, YOU'LL ALL GET TO, UM, WORK WITH IT STUFF AS WELL. 
          SO, UM, IT MAKES A LOGICAL SENSE. 
          IT WORKS A LOT WITH OUR FACILITIES WHEN WE'RE DOING OFFICE MOVES AND STUFF LIKE THAT. 
          SO, UM, I'M GLAD TO HAVE THEM ON BOARD. 
          I GOT A GREAT WORKING RELATIONSHIP WITH THE, THE IT, UH, DIRECTOR. 
          SO WE'RE LOOKING FOR, FOR MORE GOOD THINGS WITH, WITH COMING FROM THAT DIRECTION. 
          AND AS YOU KNOW, SHARED SERVICES THAT WE DO IN THE HIGHWAY DEPARTMENT NOW WE'RE DOING A LOT MORE WITH THE LOCAL MUNICIPALITIES. 
          SO I'VE GOT A GOOD RELATIONSHIP WITH, WITH THE LOCAL MUNICIPALITIES. 
          SO I THINK THAT'LL JUST HELP STRENGTHEN THAT POTENTIAL FOR SHARED SERVICES WITH IT AS WELL. 
          SO YOUR BUDGET GOES UP ACCORDINGLY THEN TOO, RIGHT? ? NO. 
          COVER IT? NO, NO. 
          IT HAS ITS OWN BUDGET. 
          THEY HAVE THEIR OWN BUDGET. 
          OKAY. 
          IT, IT HAS THEIR OWN BUDGET AND UH, IT STAYS WITH THEM. 
          WE DON'T GET TO UH, GOTCHA. 
          WE GO, DON'T GET TO INTERMINGLE BUDGETS. 
          OKAY. 
          ANY QUESTIONS? AND WE DON'T NEED TO VOTE ON THIS. 
          NO, NO. 
          THERE WAS JUST A DISCUSSION ITEM. 
          YES, I, REST OF OUR ITEMS ARE, WHICH THAT LEADS TO THE LEAD LATERAL UPDATE, WHICH IS OUR LAST ITEM. 
          UM, THANK YOU MR. CHAIR. 
          I DID, UH, DO A LEAD LATERAL PRESENTATION FOR THE EXECUTIVE COMMITTEE. 
          I'LL LAST EVENING. 
          I KNOW, UH, SEVERAL OF YOU HAPPEN TO, TO SEE THAT AS WELL. 
          SO 
          [h. Lead Lateral Update]
HOPEFULLY WHAT YOU SEE HERE TONIGHT IS THE IMPROVED VERSION OF THAT. 
          NOW THAT I'VE GOT A, A DRY RUN UNDER, UNDER MY BELT. 
          AND SO I'D BE HAPPY TO EXPLAIN, UH, THE LEAD LADDERAL PROGRAM, UH, TO THIS COMMITTEE AS WELL. 
          UH, IN FRONT OF YOUR TABLE ARE, ARE HANDOUTS FOR THE, UM, LEAD LATERAL. 
          YOU'LL SEE ONE OF'EM IS IN YOUR PACKET, BUT THE REST ARE NOT. 
          THERE ARE EXTRA PACKETS BEHIND ME IF ANYBODY OH, SORRY. 
          IF ANYBODY WOULD, WOULD LIKE, I WAS JUST LOOKING TO SEE IF THERE'S ANYBODY ELSE IN THE AUDIENCE. 
          UM, AND, AND, AND THERE ISN'T, BUT, UH, THERE'S EXTRA PACKETS AVAILABLE, UH, HERE AS WELL, SHOULD YOU LIKE THOSE? SO, UM, WITH THE LEAD LETTER PROGRAM, UM, FIRST I STARTED OFF LAST NIGHT. 
          UM, UH, I DID REFLECT ON THE UNDERGROUND PROGRAM BECAUSE IT, IT'S NOT RUNNING AS WELL AS I WOULD HAVE LIKED. 
          UM, AND, AND I TAKE THAT, UH, PERSONALLY AND, UM, LIKE I SAID, I GOT A GOOD RELATIONSHIP WITH A LOT OF MUNICIPALITIES. 
          UH, THIS BEING THE FIRST GRANT THAT, THAT I'VE DONE, I'VE, I LOOKED BACK AND REFLECTED ON, ON HOW IT WENT AND, AND HOW IT'S GO GOING TO DATE. 
          UM, DEFINITELY THINGS THAT I WOULD'VE DONE DIFFERENTLY. 
          AND, AND, UH, BY NO MEANS DID IT, DID IT GO SMOOTH ON, ON, ON, ON MY END, UH, OR, OR WITH THE CITY WEST BEND. 
          SO I WANNA MAKE SURE I'M, I'M, I'M CLEAR ON THAT. 
          A LOT OF EMAILS GOING BACK AND FORTH. 
          UM, UH, I DO TAKE RESPONSIBILITY FOR FOR SOME OF THAT. 
          UM, YOU KNOW, LOOKING BACK, I WOULD'VE CERTAINLY TAKEN BETTER NOTES, UH, BETTER MINUTES DURING THE MEETINGS, UH, WOULD'VE BEEN MUCH MORE BOISTEROUS IN MY CONCERNS, UH, UH, OF THE PROGRAM AND THE POTENTIAL DIRECTION AND, AND WOULD'VE REALLY STRESSED THE, THE DEFINING GOALS OF THE PROGRAM. 
          AND, AND AGAIN, I, I, I LOOKING BACK IS, UH, HINDSIGHT'S A, A BEAR SOMETIMES IN, IN 2020. 
          BUT, UM, YOU KNOW, DEFINITELY WOULD'VE DONE SOME THINGS A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENTLY AND, AND, UM, UH, WE SHOULD GO BACK, BUT WE CAN'T AND WE GOTTA KIND OF HOPEFULLY MOVE FORWARD FROM, FROM THAT POINT. 
          AND REALLY LOOKING BACK, 'CAUSE I MENTIONED THE GOALS, THE GOALS OF THE, THE, THE PROGRAM WAS TO COMPLETE, YOU KNOW, REMOVAL OF LEAD LATERALS, UH, THE COMPLETE LEAD 
          [00:50:01]
LATERAL, NOT JUST PART OF LEAD LATERALS AND, AND REPAIR ROADWAYS. 
          I THINK, UH, SOMETIMES THAT GETS A LITTLE BIT LOST AND WANNA GO THROUGH SOME EXAMPLES A LITTLE BIT LATER ON AND HOW, HOW WE CAN HOPEFULLY MAKE THAT HAPPEN, UH, IN THE CITY OF WEST BEND. 
          UM, AND SO HOW DOES THE PROGRAM FIT THESE GOALS? SO IN THE PACKET AND, AND IN THE FIRST PAGE OF THERE IS ARE THE, THE TWO VARIOUS GRANTS. 
          UH, THE FIRST, UH, PART OF THEIR GRANT IS A, UM, TO GET RID OF THE PRIVATE SIDE LATERALS ON ROADWAYS WHERE THE, THE CITY OF WEST BEND ALREADY COMPLETED THE, THE PUBLIC SIDE. 
          AND THOSE ARE MAINLY OUR SEVENTH AND EIGHTH AVENUES. 
          AND, AND WE CERTAINLY HAVE IN THERE ANOTHER COMPONENT ABOUT 5,000, BUT TECHNICALLY ACTUAL COST TO DO THAT. 
          IF YOU CAN IMAGINE THE AVERAGE IS ABOUT 5,000. 
          SOME MIGHT BE A LITTLE BIT, LA MIGHT BE A LITTLE BIT LESS. 
          AS YOU CAN IMAGINE WHEN YOU'RE REPAIRING SOMETHING IN SOMEBODY'S YARD, YOU MIGHT HAVE A TREE YOU HAVE TO REMOVE. 
          YOU MIGHT, UH, BE ABLE TO PULL THE, THE LATERAL THROUGH THE LOCATION OF THE OLD LATERAL. 
          YOU MIGHT HAVE TO OPEN TRENCH IT. 
          UH, THEY MIGHT HAVE A SIDEWALK OR SOMETHING THERE, OR OTHER AMENITY HAS TO GET REPAIRED. 
          ALSO, EACH INDIVIDUAL HOUSE, WHEN YOU TAKE THE, THE, THE NEW LATERAL INTO THE HOUSE. 
          THEY MIGHT HAVE A FINISHED BASEMENT, THEY MIGHT HAVE CARPETING, RIGHT? SO THERE MIGHT BE THINGS YOU HAVE TO DO EACH INDIVIDUALLY, JUST A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT TO THE COST. 
          IS, IS JUST A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT FOR EACH, EACH OF THOSE, THOSE HOUSES. 
          BUT AGAIN, THAT IT'S NOT JUST SEVENTH AND EIGHTH AVENUE, BUT IF THERE'S OTHER RECENT ONES, WE PUT THE WORD 10 YEARS PLUS OR MINUS. 
          IF THERE'S OTHER, OTHER ROADS THAT WERE DONE, UH, RECENTLY THAT, UH, WE CAN FINISH THE, THE JOB, SO TO SPEAK, THAT, UH, YOU KNOW, THE LEAD LATERALS COMPLETED ON THE PUBLIC SIDE AND ONLY REMAINING ON, ON THE PRIVATE SIDE, THAT, THAT, THAT WOULD BE DONE. 
          AND, AND IF YOU LOOK AT THE, I THINK IT'S THE, THE BACK OF THAT, THAT SAME HANDOUT, UM, I'M GONNA HAVE TO LOOK AND SEE IF THAT'S IN THE, NOT IN THE, THE PACKET, BUT, UM, THERE'S A GOOD DISPLAY BY THE, THE DNR, UM, DID A NICE, UM, UH, DISPLAY, IF YOU WILL, A HANDOUT. 
          AND I'M TRYING TO BRING IT UP ON MY SCREEN RIGHT NOW. 
          UM, BUT, UH, WHAT THEY SAID IS THAT, UH, UH, YEAH, IT'S NOT GONNA COME UP THAT QUICK. 
          UM, IS THAT WHEN, I'LL JUST READ IT FOR YOU. 
          THAT'LL BE JUST, IT'S IN THE BACK OF YOUR PACKET. 
          IT'S IN THE BACK SHEET. 
          IT'S THE DRAWING, UH, THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT. 
          UM, NEW RESEARCH IN LEAD IN DRINKING WATER HAS RAISED CONCERNS WITH DNR REGARDING THE POTENTIAL FOR INCREASED LEAD LEVELS WHEN PARTIAL LEAD SERVICE LATERAL REPLACEMENT OCCURS. 
          THE DEPARTMENT IS ADVISED THAT MUNICIPALITIES REPLACE LEAD SERVICE LINES IN THEIR ENTIRETY, PARTIALLY REPLACING LEAD SERVICE LINES CAN INCREASE LEAD LEVELS IN HOMES, UH, VISIT OUR DRINKING WATER AND GROUNDWATER BUREAUS, DRINKING WATER AND LEAD WEBPAGE FOR MORE INFORMATION ON LEAD IN DRINKING WATER. 
          I KNOW THAT'S GONNA BE A, A BIG BONE OF CONTENTION AND YOU'LL TALK ABOUT LATER IN THE MAYOR'S EMAIL ABOUT JUST DOING SOME PRIVATE SIDE. 
          BUT THE DIRECTION FROM THE DNR NOW IS LOOKING AT WHEN YOU'RE TOUCHING THE LATERAL, DO IT ALL, DON'T JUST DO HALF OF IT, DO THE WHOLE THING. 
          AND SO THAT'S REALLY WHAT WHAT GRANT WANTED US TO DO, IS TO FINISH THAT FIRST. 
          IT'S NOT JUST DOING ALL PRIVATE SIDES THROUGHOUT THE WHOLE CITY, BUT DOING THE ONES WHERE THE PUBLIC SIDE WAS DONE. 
          LET'S COMPLETE THE PRIVATE SIDE AND GET THAT DONE. 
          SO THAT'S GRANT ONE. 
          GRANT TWO, UM, AGAIN, TAKES CARE OF THE WHOLE LEAD LATERAL FROM MAINE TO THE HOUSE. 
          UH, HOPEFULLY WHEN A ROAD RECONSTRUCTION IS BEING DONE, OR AT LEAST THE ROAD WILL BE REPAVED WHEN IT'S DONE, WE'RE LOOKING AT IT AGAIN AT THAT SAME 5,000 ACTUAL COST FOR THE PRIVATE SIDE, BUT THEN 15,000 ON THE PUBLIC SIDE. 
          AND WHAT DOES THAT MEAN? THAT MEANS FROM THE WATER MAIN TO THE CURB STOP, AND THE CURB STOP IS USUALLY A SHUT OFF VALVE THAT'S RIGHT BEHIND THE SIDEWALK, TYPICALLY SPEAKING. 
          AND THAT'S WHAT'S CONSIDERED THE PUBLIC SIDE OF THE, OF THE MAIN. 
          SO WE'RE LOOKING AT, AT DOING THAT. 
          UM, AND THE EXERCISE I'M GONNA RUN THROUGH WITH YOU NEXT IS KIND OF A, A DISPLAY OF WHAT THAT WOULD LOOK LIKE FINANCIALLY AND HOW THAT WOULD BE POTENTIALLY DONE. 
          AND WITH THAT, IF I COULD BRING MY SCREEN UP, GINA UP TO THERE TO JUST SHARE. 
          THIS IS GONNA BE THE, THE HANDOUT WITH THE YELLOW ON IT, UH, HIGHLIGHTED, UH, GOING FORWARD. 
          AND AGAIN, THIS IS ONE OF THOSE HINDSIGHT THINGS WHERE I WISH WOULD'VE DONE THIS ACTIVITY WITH, WITH WEST BEND STAFF TO KINDA, UH, MAP OUT WHAT, WHAT IS IN MY HEAD AND, YOU KNOW, AND HOW THIS, THIS VISION KINDA WORKS OUT A LITTLE BIT. 
          AND I DON'T KNOW IF I CAN ZOOM IN THERE A LITTLE BIT MORE, BUT IT'S KINDA, IT'S ABOUT AS GOOD AS IT'S GONNA GET FOR RIGHT. 
          THERE WE GO. 
          THAT'S A LITTLE BIT BETTER. 
          AND SO WHAT I DID WAS I TOOK, UH, A PROJECT IN THE CITY OF WEST BEND THAT WAS COMPLETED LAST YEAR ON, ON PENNSYLVANIA AVENUE. 
          UH, AND FULL DISCLOSURE, UH, TO MY KNOWLEDGE, I BELIEVE THIS DID NOT HAVE ANY LEAD LATERALS IN IT, BUT USE IT AS AN EXAMPLE, AS IF IT DID HAVE LEAD LATERALS IN IT. 
          AND AGAIN, I WANNA MAKE SURE I'M CLEAR. 
          THIS IS THE, THE BID AMOUNT THAT I TOOK OFF 
          [00:55:01]
THE CITY OF WEST BEND'S, UH, WEBSITE. 
          UH, THE AS-BUILT, OR, OR, OR AS CONSTRUCTED CONDITIONS COULD CERTAINLY BE, UM, DIFFERENT IF YOU RE IF YOU MIGHT KNOW THAT WHEN THEY DO PROJECTS, YOU BID AND A UNIT PRICES, AND SO SOME NEW PRICES MIGHT GO UP. 
          THEY MAYBE DID SOME UNDERCUTTING, MAYBE THE ROAD WAS IN POOR CONDITION, MAYBE NOT. 
          SO AGAIN, JUST A GENERALITY SPEAKING OF, OF WHAT THE, WHAT THE PROJECT LOOKED LIKE WITH, YOU KNOW, SIDEWALK, UH, WAS, UH, PARTIALLY REMOVED. 
          SO SOME WAS REMAINING, UH, CURB AND GUTTER WAS, UH, FOR THE MOST PART ALL REMOVED AND REPLACED AND, AND NEW ASPHALT ON THE ROADWAY AS FAR AS GRAVEL. 
          SO YOU'LL SEE THE ITEM ON THE FAR LEFT HAND COLUMN, SANITARY SEWER, WATER AND GENERAL, GENERAL CATEGORY. 
          SO I LUMPED SOME STUFF TOGETHER THAT I BELIEVE WAS IN THE SANITARY SEWER CATEGORY IN THE WATER CATEGORY, IN THE STORM SEWER CATEGORY. 
          SO I TOOK THE BID AND KIND OF COMBINED IT INTO THESE, UH, SHORTER VERSIONS. 
          CERTAINLY THE BID TAB IS, UH, MUCH MORE EXPANSIVE THAN WHAT YOU SEE. 
          SO I'LL PICK ON THE SANITARY SEWER LINE FIRST. 
          THAT WAS ABOUT 142,000 IN THE FIRST CATEGORY. 
          FIRST COLUMN FOR BID AMOUNTS WATER 1 71 STORM SEWER 2 43. 
          AND, AND ON DOWN THE ROAD, THE MIDDLE COLUMN, UM, WHICH DOES NOT HAVE A HEADER, UH, THE 1 42 3 3 22 15 FOR SEWER SHOWS, THE SEWER AND WATER AND STORM SEWER WORKS. 
          ALL THREE UTILITY WORKS UP ABOVE. 
          AND THEN SEPARATE OUT THE, UM, WHAT I'LL CALL THE ROADWAY WORK DOWN BELOW FOR 3 71 16, WHICH IS COMBINING ALL THOSE NUMBERS TO THE LEFT THAT YOU SEE THERE. 
          TYPICALLY SPEAKING, AND AGAIN, THIS IS TYPICALLY SO I DON'T WANT TO GET IN TROUBLE FOR THIS, BUT, UH, WORKING WITH THE CITY WESTBOUND, THEIR 2050 PLAN WITH THEIR UTILITIES, A GENERAL RULE OF THUMB IS THAT THE, THE ROADWAY WORK THAT'S OVER THE WATER WORK, THE ROADWAY WORK ABOVE THE SEWER WORK, UM, IS PAID FOR BY THOSE UTILITIES. 
          UH, SO I TOOK IT AND TOOK THAT MONEY AND SAID, WELL, PENNSYLVANIA'S ABOUT 30 FEET WIDE, GIVE OR TAKE, SO I'LL SPLIT IT UP EQUALLY THREE WAYS. 
          UM, AGAIN, AGAIN, THIS IS WHAT, WHAT I DID TO THE SYSTEM AND I WAS, I BELIEVE THE CITY DOES. 
          UM, I DID ASK THE CITY ENGINEER, UM, UH, RECENTLY  AT, AT A LUNCHEON THAT I WAS AT. 
          AND IF THEY DID DIVIDE THAT OUT ON PENNSYLVANIA AND, AND THEY SAID THEY, THEY DID BY, DID NOT ASK HIM THE SPECIFIC PERCENTAGES. 
          AND SO TAKING THAT, THAT YOU'VE GOT THE SANITARY SEWER 1 42, THESE DIVIDE TO 370,000 FOR THE ROADWORK AND THE SEWER WOULD'VE PAID 123, THE WATER UTILITY WOULD'VE PAID 123. 
          YOU HAVE THE STORM SEWER AS A SEPARATE ITEM. 
          AND THEN THE, UH, ROADWAY WORK NOW COMES DOWN TO 123,000. 
          SO THAT MEANS THE SERIAL UTILITY ADDING THE 1 42, THE 1 23 ENDS UP BEING 2 65. 
          THE WATER UTILITY 1 71, 1 23 PAYS 2 95 AND THE GREEN BOX IS ADDING THE STORM SEWER, REST OF THE REST OF THE ROAD WORK AT 3 76, 2 39. 
          AND THAT, THEN AGAIN, IF YOU REMEMBER, IF YOU'RE FAMILIAR, I KNOW SOME OF YOU'RE FAMILIAR WITH UTILITIES, SO UTILITY NOT IS A SEPARATE ENTITY, UM, HAS ITS OWN FUND SET ASIDE. 
          UH, MUCH LIKE THE HIRING DEPARTMENT HAS AN ENTERPRISE FUND, THEY RUN PRETTY MUCH INDEPENDENT, UM, AS WELL. 
          SO THEY GET THEIR, THEIR FUNDING FROM A LOT OF THEIR, THEIR RATES, BASICALLY WHAT THEY DO. 
          AND, UH, CERTAINLY THE CITY HAS MUCH MORE KNOWLEDGE ON, ON UTILITIES THAN I DO. 
          UH, BUT THAT 360 70 C IN A GREEN BOX THAT WAS PAID BY, UM, EITHER A LEVY, IF THEY DID ASSESSMENT, I'M NOT SAYING THEY DID, UH, IF THEY USED LR TYPE PROGRAM, UM, OR OTHERS. 
          SO AGAIN, I DIDN'T DIVE INTO HOW THE CITY ACTUALLY FUNDED THE THE 3 76, BUT BASICALLY WHAT AMOUNT TO IS THAT THE TOTAL PROJECT COSTS ABOUT 928,000 FOR 900 FEET OF ROADWAY. 
          AND THAT'S VERY IMPORTANT TO KEEP IN MIND. 
          SO IF YOU CALL IT BASICALLY ALMOST, BASICALLY A THOUSAND DOLLARS A FOOT, IF YOU DO KINDA DO THE MATH RIGHT, SO ABOUT 900,000 FOR 900 FEET OF ROADWAY. 
          IF, AND THIS IS WHERE THE BIG IF COMES IN, IF ALL THOSE LATERALS WERE LEAD AND THE COUNTY DID THE 15,000 PER LEAD LATERAL, WE'VE GOT SOME NUMBERS DOWN BELOW. 
          UM, THE TOTAL PROJECT COST WAS 928,000, UH, WITH BASICALLY 60% PAID BY THE UTILITIES. 
          UM, WHICH LEFT REMAINDER BY THAT, UH, THE COST IS CITY AMOUNT AGAIN WAS 360 7 UNDER OPTION TWO, OR GRANT NUMBER TWO AT 15,000 PER LATERAL GETS YOU THERE. 
          UH, THERE'S A POSSIBLE 28 LATERALS ON PENNSYLVANIA AVENUE. 
          AGAIN, I JUST COUNTED UP THE NUMBER OF HOMES ON PENNSYLVANIA. 
          IT'S QUITE POSSIBLE THEIR LATERAL WAS OFF TO A SIDE ROAD VERSUS THE MAIN ROAD. 
          UH, SO AGAIN, SPEAKING GENERALITIES WITHOUT TOO MUCH KNOWLEDGE, UH, THE CITY WOULD'VE GOTTEN A CHECK FOR $420,000. 
          UM, AGAIN, IF THEY WERE ALL LEAD LATERALS. 
          SO YOU LOOK AT THAT GOING, OKAY, THE FOUR 20,000 NEXT LINE FOR THE ROADWAY WITH THE CITY EXPENSES OUTSIDE OF THE UTILITY COST 360 7, THEY WOULD'VE GAINED $52,000 ON THE PROJECT. 
          COULD HAVE BEEN FOR AND USE THOSE FOR ENGINEERING COSTS, INSPECTION COSTS, 
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STUFF LIKE THAT. 
          SO BASICALLY THAT THAT GRANT WOULD PAY FOR THE ROADWAY WORK. 
          AGAIN, NOT THE UTILITY WORK FOR SEWING WATER 'CAUSE THEY ARE SEPARATE ENTITIES. 
          UM, AND THEY CERTAINLY IF, UH, NEED BE, CAN, CAN BORROW, I WOULD IMAGINE THEY BORROWING CAPACITY MIGHT EVEN HAVE FUNDS IN THEIR GENERAL FUND, UM, IN THOSE ACCOUNTS TO HELP PAY FOR SOME OF THIS WORK. 
          AND THIS IS WHERE WE'RE LOOKING AT AS FAR AS, YOU KNOW, THE WILLINGNESS TO, TO SELECT ROADS THAT WERE PERHAPS NOT IN THEIR FIVE YEAR PLAN. 
          UM, AND LOOKING AT THESE DOLLAR AMOUNTS GOING, YES, IF THE SWIM WATER UTILITIES WITH, IF YOU LOOK IN THE AREA, ESPECIALLY SOUTH AND EAST OF THE, OF THE MAIN, MAIN STREET AND, AND DOWNTOWN WEST BEND, UH, UTILITIES WILL NEED TO BE REPLACED REGARDLESS 'CAUSE OF THEIR AGE, UM, AND ISSUES. 
          UH, A LOT OF THE ROADS IN THAT AREA ARE IN POOR SHAPE. 
          I DID A QUICK ANALYSIS ON, YOU KNOW, SOUTH THIRD AVENUE, UH, BETWEEN MAPLE AND OAK HAD 19 LATERALS. 
          IT'S ONLY FOUR 70 FEET, SO ROUGHLY HALF OF IT. 
          SO IF YOU TAKE THE 3 76, YOU DIVIDE THAT IN HALF, YOU GET, WELL MAYBE AROUND ONE 70 WITH THOSE 19 LATERALS. 
          'CAUSE THOSE HOMES ARE CLOSE TOGETHER, THEY ORDER TO RECEIVE A CHECK FOR 2 85. 
          UH, YOU KNOW, MORE, MORE THAN COVERING THE COST OF THAT, UH, SOUTH NINTH AVENUE BETWEEN POPULAR AND CHESTNUT 4 25. 
          AGAIN, HALF THE COST, THEY WOULD RECEIVE A CHECK FOR 1 95 AGAIN. 
          SO YOU LOOK AT 360 7 1 9 VERSUS 360 7 DIVIDED THAT BY TWO, RIGHT? YOU GET ABOUT 180 AND YOU'RE GETTING ABOUT 1 95. 
          SO AGAIN, YOU'RE, YOU'RE COVERING THE COST OF THE ROADWAY. 
          UM, EVERY ROADWAY IS DIFFERENT, RIGHT? THEY MIGHT HAVE MORE STORM STORM SEWER, BIGGER STORM SEWER, SMALLER STORM SEWER, RIGHT? SO AGAIN, THIS IS JUST A, A QUICK SNAPSHOT AND ALSO LOOKED AT SOUTH SIXTH AVENUE BETWEEN CHESTNUT AND MAPLE. 
          AND, AND AGAIN, FOR FOUR AND 70 FEET, UH, THEY'D GET A CHECK FOR 1 95. 
          AGAIN, ABOUT HALF OF THAT 900 FEET. 
          SO AGAIN, IT WORKED ON, ON, ON A COUPLE OF THESE DIFFERENT ROADWAYS THAT I DID. 
          UH, AGAIN, UH, KIND OF THE BACK OF THE NAPKIN WORK, WORK ON THAT. 
          AND, UM, YOU KNOW, WE'RE LOOKING AT A $3 MILLION PROJECT AND VERSUS, UH, WHICH ROADS ARE, ARE IN THE PLAN AND, AND BELIEVE, WHEN I LOOKED AT A 2050 PLAN, THERE'S, THERE'S PLENTY OF ROADS IN THE CITY OF WEST BEND THAT THAT COULD USE WORK THAT, UH, POTENTIALLY ADD ROADS, UH, MAYBE NOT EVEN CHANGE ROADS, BUT ADD ROADS INTO THE PROGRAMS BY ADDING SOME UTILITY WORK AND GETTING THE ROADWAY COSTS PAID BY THE THE COUNTY WOULD MAKE A LOT OF SENSE. 
          UM, AND SO THAT'S REALLY WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT IS, UH, THAT WILLINGNESS TO POTENTIALLY ADD PROJECTS OR, OR EVEN CHANGE 'EM. 
          UM, I I CAN TELL YOU IF I CAME TO THIS COMMITTEE, AS I MENTIONED LAST NIGHT AND SAID, WE APPROVE THE CIP IN NOVEMBER, HERE'S $3 MILLION. 
          IF WE DO THIS OTHER ROAD, WOULD YOU BE WILLING TO MAKE A CHANGE? MY GUESS IS YOU MOSTLY WOULD SAY, YES, WE'D BE WILLING TO MAKE A CHANGE IN OUR CIP IF WE'RE WILLING TO GET FINANCIAL AID SOMEWHERE ELSE, EVEN TO ADD ROADS OR MOVE A ROAD UP OR MOVE A ROAD BACK. 
          SO, UM, SO LOOKING AT THAT, WE, WE DID PROVIDE THIS GRANT, UH, TO THE MAYOR, UH, COUNTY EXECUTIVE SHOWMAN, UH, SENT THAT GRANT, BOTH GRANTS OUT TO THE MAYOR. 
          WE WERE HOPING FOR AN ANSWER BY RESOLUTION BY THE, THE END OF MARCH. 
          AND, AND THAT HASN'T HAPPENED YET. 
          UH, WE SENT OUT, I SENT OUT AN EMAIL TO THE MAYOR, UM, UH, KINDLY REQUESTING A RESPONSE BY THE END OF THE MONTH FOR AT LEASE GRANT ONE. 
          UH, YOU'LL SEE THAT, UH, THAT'S ONE OF THE OTHER HANDOUTS THAT YOU HAVE THAT LOOKS LIKE AN EMAIL HANDOUT. 
          UH, THAT, UH, CERTAINLY WE'LL BE WILLING TO, UM, YOU KNOW, GRANT AN EXTENSION IF THAT'S WHAT THEY NEED. 
          UH, UH, HOPEFULLY A SHORT EXTENSION BECAUSE THIS IS ARPA FUNDS AND THE TIME IS RUNNING SHORT. 
          UH, BEFORE WE START GOING TO A SECOND MUNICIPALITY, START REALLY TALKING TO THEM ABOUT IS THIS SOMETHING THEY MIGHT BE INTERESTED IN AND, UH, ADDING TO THEIR PROGRAM. 
          AND SO WE'RE, WE'RE HOPING, UH, AND IT IS VERY ENCOURAGING TO SEE A MEMBER FROM THE CITY, UH, HERE THIS EVENING IN THE AUDIENCE. 
          AND, AND HOPEFULLY THAT, UH, BETWEEN LAST NIGHT AND TONIGHT, UH, THEY'RE ABLE TO, TO WATCH A COUPLE OF THESE VIDEOS AND, AND TO LOOK AT A PROGRAM AND, AND TAKE THAT UP, UH, AS A COUNCIL, THAT'S SOMETHING THAT THEY'D BE INTERESTED IN DOING. 
          IN FULL DISCLOSURE, LAST NIGHT, UH, THE EXECUTIVE COMMITTEE DID LOOK AT, UH, THE VILLAGE OF KIOSKI. 
          THEY'RE, IF YOU'RE NOT FAMILIAR WITH THAT AREA, THEY'RE REDOING, UH, HIGHWAY 45, RIGHT THROUGH THIS DOWNTOWN HEART OF, OF THE VILLAGE. 
          UH, UH, THE VILLAGE ORIGINALLY TOLD US THEY DIDN'T HAVE ANY LATERALS. 
          NOW THEY FOUND ABOUT 10 OR SO, UH, SIX OF THOSE LIE ON MAIN ON, UH, NOT MAIN STREET TECHNICALLY, BUT ON 45. 
          AND SO THE EXECUTIVE COMMITTEE DECIDED LAST NIGHT THAT WE SHOULD PROBABLY EXTEND GRANT ONE, AT LEAST TO THEM, TO THE VILLAGE, UH, POTENTIALLY GRANT TWO FOR THE WORK ON HIGHWAY 45 TO MAKE SURE THAT THE, AGAIN, THE ENTIRETY OF THE LEAD IS REMOVED ON THOSE PROJECTS AND CONSTITUENTS ARE WATCHING OUT THERE BECAUSE WE DID GET CONTACTED BY ONE OF THOSE INDIVIDUALS GOING, WHAT ABOUT ME? UM, I'VE GOT LEAD AND WHAT ARE YOU GONNA HELP ME WITH? SO, UH, THEY'RE OUT THERE, THEY'RE WATCHING IT, UM, AND PAYING ATTENTION TO, TO WHAT'S GOING ON. 
          SO WITH, WITH, WITH CLOSING, I, I, I REALLY THINK IT'S TIME TO SHIFT AND LOOK AT THIS AS AN OPPORTUNITY FOR THE CITY. 
          UH, WE CERTAINLY COULD DWELL BACK AND LOOK AT THE LAST FIVE MONTHS, AND I'M, I'M SURE THERE'S THINGS I WOULD, I KNOW THERE'S 
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THINGS I'D DO DIFFERENTLY AND POTENTIAL, BUT VERSUS FINGER POINTING AND TRYING TO GET FIGURED OUT WHAT HAPPENED THE LAST FIVE MONTHS. 
          I THINK IT'S TIME TO MOVE FORWARD AND REALLY LOOK AT AND HOW CAN WE GET THIS TO HAPPEN? AND, AND, AND FOR OUR CONSTITUENTS AND THE PEOPLE THAT ARE SITTING WITH THE LATERALS, IT, YOU KNOW, KNOW IT, YOU DON'T GET OPPORTUNITIES LIKE THIS ALL THE TIME. 
          AND, UH, I KNOW THE CITY OF HARTFORD GOT A GRANT FROM THE DNR, BUT THAT GRANT'S DONE NOW. 
          UH, SO IF NOT NOW, WHEN, WELL, IT WAS ALSO BROUGHT UP IN EXECUTIVE COMMITTEE TO POSSIBLY SIT DOWN WITH THE ELECTED OFFICIALS AT WEST BEND. 
          THAT, UH, UH, THANK YOU. 
          THAT'S A, THAT'S, THAT'S A GREAT POINT. 
          AND GO AHEAD. 
          UM, THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN. 
          UM, TO ADD ONTO THAT, MAYOR AGART WAS WATCHING ALSO LAST NIGHT, AND THIS MORNING HE ALREADY TALKED TO EXECUTIVE SHOWMAN AND, UH, WE'VE SENT AN EMAIL TO THANK HIM FOR, YOU KNOW, COMING FORWARD. 
          AND I, I'M CONFIDENT WE CAN WORK TOGETHER ON THIS. 
          SO THINGS ARE MOVING ADVISOR NEWMAN. 
          SURE. 
          I'D LIKE TO SPEAK TO THIS A LITTLE BIT. 
          UM, THERE'S A LOT OF MOVING PARTS TO THIS AND, UM, THE BREAKDOWN THAT, UH, SCOTT PROVIDED EVERYBODY, UM, IT'S NOT EVERY, IT'S NOT EVERY STREET THAT THIS APPLIES TO. 
          IT ALL DEPENDS. 
          THE NUMBERS COME OUT BASED ON THE, THE NUMBER OF LEAD LATERALS ON EACH STREET. 
          SO THAT CAN SKEW THE NUMBERS ONE WAY OR THE OTHER. 
          UM, I MEAN, THE NUMBERS CAN LOOK BETTER, THE NUMBERS CAN LOOK WORSE AS FAR AS WHAT I'LL CALL THE LOCAL SHARE THE CITY'S PORTION OF THE ROAD CONSTRUCTION. 
          WE ALL KNOW THAT THERE'S A LOT OF PLANNING THAT GOES INTO TO, UH, UH, CIP PROJECTS. 
          THERE'S A LOT, AGAIN, A LOT OF MOVING PARTS. 
          THERE'S UTILITY FUNDS THAT ARE PLANNED OUT FOR YEARS AND YEARS. 
          UM, WHEN THIS PROGRAM CAME UP, YOU KNOW, THOSE WEREN'T PART OF THE PLANS. 
          SO AS SCOTT MENTIONED, YOU KNOW, IF MONEY BECOMES AVAILABLE IN A GRANT PROGRAM LIKE THIS, THERE'S GONNA BE DISCUSSION ON, ON BOTH PARTIES. 
          THERE'S GOTTA BE SOME PLANNING. 
          UM, I DON'T WANT THE MESSAGE FROM THE COUNTY, WHICH MIGHT HAVE BEEN PORTRAYED AT THE MEETING LAST NIGHT AND MAYBE IN THE PAST THAT THE CITY'S NOT WILLING TO ACCEPT THIS, OR THEY'RE NOT PLAYING BALL, THEY'RE NOT WORKING WITH US ON THIS. 
          I DON'T THINK THAT'S THE MESSAGE AT ALL. 
          THE MESSAGE THAT I'M HERE TO SAY IS, THE CITY IS WILLING TO, TO LOOK AT THIS, BUT THERE ARE MOVING PARTS BEHIND IT. 
          THERE'S UTILITY FUNDS. 
          IT'S NOT AS EASY AS GOING TO JUST BORROWING MONEY. 
          I MEAN, THERE'S PLANNING AND, AND OTHER EXPENSES THAT HAVE BEEN PLANNED OUT FOR FIVE, 10 YEARS THAT THEY HAVE EXPENSE FOR AS WELL. 
          UM, AND TO JUST CHANGE CIP PROJECTS OR CONSTRUCTION PROJECTS TAKES TIME. 
          UM, SCOTT KNOWS THAT AS WELL. 
          YOU KNOW, DESIGN, BASICALLY IT'S A YEAR TO DESIGN A ROAD WHEN YOU'VE GOT WATER, SEWER AND STORM SEWER, CURB GUTTER, THERE'S A LOT OF ENGINEERING THAT GOES INTO THAT A LOT OF TIME. 
          SO I'M CONFIDENT AS, AS THE CHAIR HAS SAID, THE CITY'S WILLING TO WORK. 
          IT'S, IT'S JUST, THERE'S A LOT TO THIS. 
          IT'S IN A VERY SHORT AMOUNT OF TIME TO GET IT, UM, KIND OF WORKED OUT. 
          UM, I GUESS I'M, I I'M CONFIDENT AGAIN SAYING THE CITY IS, IS PLANNING TO, YOU KNOW, WORK WITH THE COUNTY ON THIS, BUT I DON'T WANT THE MESSAGE GOING OUT FROM THE COUNTY THAT THE CITY IS NOT WILLING TO PLAY BALL, I GUESS, UM, BECAUSE THAT'S NOT, THAT'S NOT THE, UH, APPROPRIATE MESSAGE. 
          IF I COULD, I JUST WANNA ELABORATE ON THAT AND, AND SUPERVISOR NEWMAN BROUGHT UP A GOOD POINT THAT I, I SHOULD HAVE MENTIONED. 
          THIS IS WHAT A GREAT, GREAT COMMENT ABOUT YES. 
          DOES IT WORK ON EVERY ROAD? ABSOLUTELY NOT. 
          BECAUSE IF WE LOOK AT, I'LL CALL IT, UH, RIGHT BEHIND BADGER MIDDLE SCHOOL, RIGHT? UH, THERE'S A, A LEAD, LEAD LATERALS ON THE WEST SIDE OF THE ROAD, BUT BADGER MIDDLE SCHOOL IS ON THE EAST SIDE. 
          SO YOU BASICALLY HAVE HALF THE LEAD, HALF THE ROAD HAS LEAD LATERALS, OR ONE SIDE OF THE ROAD, I SHOULD SAY, ONE SIDE OF THE ROAD HAS LEAD LATERALS, THE OTHER SIDE DOES NOT. 
          AND THERE'S OTHER AREAS TOO AROUND, UH, ELEMENTARY SCHOOL, UH, OLD COURTHOUSE, RIGHT? SO THERE'S OTHER AREAS TO WHERE IT DOESN'T WORK. 
          BUT THE GOOD OR THE BAD THING IS THERE'S UNFORTUNATELY A LOT OF AREAS THAT THIS DOES WORK FOR. 
          UM, WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE, THE, THE MAP, IF YOU RECALL WHAT THE MAP LOOKED LIKE, THERE ARE A SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF ROADS WHERE THIS DOES WORK FOR, WHERE THERE THE ROAD IS IN BAD SHAPE AND, AND THERE'S LEAD LATERALS THAT I THINK GOING THROUGH THIS AS A, A STARTING PROGRAM, UM, RIGHT, THAT HOPEFULLY IF THIS WORKS OUT REALLY WELL, THERE'S MAYBE POTENTIALLY MORE FUNDING COMING DOWN THE ROAD FOR THAT CAN HELP. 
          AND AS THE PROGRAM MOVES, MAYBE IT CAN SWITCH AND ADJUST TO, TO ACCOMPLISH SOMETHING OF THOSE STRETCHES. 
          SO YES, I, 
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I APPRECIATE, UH, SUPERVISING NEWMAN BRINGING THAT UP, AND I SHOULD HAVE MENTIONED IT EARLIER, YES, IT DOESN'T WORK IN EVERY CASE SCENARIO BECAUSE THERE ARE ROADS WITH LESS LATERALS, BUT THERE'S PLENTY OF 'EM OUT THERE THAT ARE IN POOR SHAPE WITH UTILITIES THAT ARE A HUNDRED YEARS OLD OR GIVE OR TAKE AND, UM, HAVE LEAD LATERALS. 
          AND SO THERE, THERE'S OPPORTUNITIES ARE, ARE OUT THERE AT LEAST FOR THIS FIRST ROUGHLY $3 MILLION. 
          I THINK THERE'S, THERE'S NO SHORTAGE OF, OF THOSE TYPE OF SITUATIONS OUT THERE. 
          BUT YES, AS WE ROLL DOWN THE THE PATHWAY, THERE'S CERTAINLY GONNA BE OTHER ONES WE'RE NOT WHERE, YOU KNOW, AND THEN IF THERE'S OVERAGE ON THIS, THAT COULD BE USED AND SAVED UP FOR OTHER ROADWAYS WHERE THEY JUST NEED A MILL AND FILL. 
          I ALSO WANNA POINT OUT THAT IF WE LOOK AT THIS MATH AND IF THERE'S A ROADWAY WHERE THE UTILITIES DON'T NEED TO BE DONE, IT, IT LOOKS EVEN BETTER. 
          UM, THAT IF YOU TAKE OUT THE SAND TRAY WORK WIRE TILL WORK, AND IF YOU DON'T NEED TO DO STORM SEWER WORK, YOU KNOW NOW THAT THAT FOUR 20 STILL COVERS THE 3 70, 3 76, UH, BUT YOU DON'T NEED TO 243,000 FOR A STORM SEWER, BUT YOUR STILL ROLL COSTS ARE THREE 70. 
          SO IT'S VERY SIMILAR THAT, UH, INSTEAD OF LEAVING PATCHES OUT, YOU STILL HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO, EVEN IF YOU DON'T DO THE UNDERLYING UTILITIES, STORM, SEWER AND WATER, YOU'D STILL HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO REDO THE ROADWAY, THE CURB AND GUTTER, UH, THROUGH THAT. 
          SO, BUT IF YOU HAVE AREAS WHERE YOU DON'T NEED THE UTILITIES AND THE CURB AND GUTTER'S STILL GOOD, NOW YOU'RE LOOKING REALLY GOOD AND YOU JUST HAVE TO REPLACE THE ASPHALT. 
          UH, SO THERE'S OTHER OPPORTUNITIES WITHIN THERE TOO THAT, THAT ARE POTENTIAL OUT THERE. 
          UM, BUT UNFORTUNATELY A LOT OF THOSE OLDER PARTS, THE, THE CURB AND GUTTER PROBABLY NEEDS TO BE REPLACED AS WELL. 
          AND THERE'S PROBABLY AN ISSUE WITH THE STORM SEWER AND THE UTILITIES AT THE SAME TIME BECAUSE OF THEIR AGE. 
          SO THERE ARE OPPORTUNITIES OUT THERE. 
          THERE MIGHT BE OTHER ROADWAYS THAT YOU STILL GET THE 15,000 PER LATERAL BASED ON WHAT'S SELECTED OR THE, THE, THE PENDULUM COULD SLING SWING GREATLY THE OTHER WAY, UM, THAT MAYBE THERE ISN'T MUCH STORMS THROUGH ON THAT ROADWAY. 
          SO WHEN I, WHEN I USE THIS, AN EXAMPLE THAT, AND THAT'S WHY I DIDN'T PUT LIKE PERCENTAGES IN THERE BECAUSE LIKE, OH, YOU'RE PAYING 117% OF THE ROADWAY AND THIS CASE SCENARIO, WELL, THAT'S NOT GONNA BE THE, THE, THE CASE FOR EVERYONE. 
          AGAIN, THIS WAS ALSO BID NUMBERS AS I POINTED OUT, NOT WHAT THE CITY ACTUALLY SPENT. 
          SO THEY COULD BE A LITTLE BIT HIGHER, A LITTLE BIT LOWER, UM, GOING THROUGH THERE. 
          AND I'M, I'M SURE THE CITY HAS THE DATA, UM, OF WHAT THAT ACTUAL EXPENSES WERE. 
          SO THEY MIGHT LOOK DIFFERENTLY IF THIS GETS PRESENTED TO THE, TO THE COUNCIL FOR INSTANCE. 
          UM, THEIR, THEIR ENGINEER I'M SURE HAS A FANTASTIC SPREADSHEET WAY TO KEEP TRACK OF THIS STUFF, UM, UH, AND PROBABLY LOOKS A LOT BETTER THAN WHAT I'M PROVIDING. 
          IS IT OKAY IF I MAKE A QUICK COMMENT? UM, I THANK YOU DOUG, FOR BRINGING THAT UP, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE THAT'S THE KIND OF CONVERSATIONS WE GOTTA HAVE. 
          SO YOU KNOW, THAT THAT JUST, UM, NOW I UNDERSTAND THE, THE ISSUES THAT THEY HAVE AND WHAT, WHAT WE'RE DEALING WITH AND WHAT THEY'RE DEALING WITH AND TRYING TO GET THIS ALL TO WORK TOGETHER. 
          SO WITH THAT, UH, SUPERVISOR SCHWAB SURE, THANK YOU. 
          UM, AND I APPRECIATE THE PERSPECTIVE AS WELL, BUT THE BOTTOM LINE IS THIS IS A GENEROUS OFFER FROM THE COUNTY THAT, UM, I THINK, YOU KNOW, AND I UNDERSTAND THERE'S, THERE'S A LOT OF WORK THAT NEEDS TO BE DONE TO ACCEPT IT. 
          BY THE SAME TOKEN, THERE IS A LIMIT ON THE ARPA FUNDS AND WHEN THOSE HAVE TO GO AND WHEN THEY HAVE TO BE ALLOCATED AND SPENT. 
          UM, SO MY QUESTION IS, I, I DIDN'T SEE ANYWHERE IN HERE WHERE WE HAD A DEADLINE ON, ON HOW LONG WE'RE WILLING TO, TO HOLD THIS BEFORE WE ALLOCATE TO A DIFFERENT PURPOSE. 
          AND I MAY HAVE MISSED THAT. 
          YEAH, I THINK YOU DID THAT OUT. 
          WELL, WE, WE HAD WISHED ORIGINALLY FOR A RESPONSE BY THE END OF MARCH, MARCH 31ST, UH, THAT YES, THE, THE RESPONSE, BUT THEN EVEN SO THE, THE MONEY HAS TO BE, OH, I'M SORRY, TRIBUTED BY CORRECT THE END OF I A APOLOGIZE YES. 
          END OF 2026. 
          YES. 
          SO, UM, I BELIEVE IT'S A GENEROUS OFFER. 
          UM, YOU KNOW, I, I WISH I WOULD'VE BEEN IN, IT WOULD'VE BOUGHT, UH, MICROSOFT STOCK WHEN THAT FIRST CAME OUT, BUT I DIDN'T DO IT. 
          THE, THE BOTTOM LINE IS OPPORTUNITIES SOMETIMES GO AWAY. 
          AND, AND AS MUCH AS I UNDERSTAND THE CITY'S, UM, PREDICAMENT WITH TRYING TO GET EVERYTHING DONE, WE NEED TO BE, MAKE SURE THAT WE DON'T WASTE FUNDS EITHER HOLDING OUT FOR MM-HMM, , UM, SOMEONE TO CLAIM THEM. 
          SO I HAVE A QUESTION. 
          MM-HMM, . 
          SO I KNOW THAT, UM, THERE'S CONSTRUCTION IN THIS VILLAGE OF KIOSK. 
          IT'S GOING ON RIGHT NOW. 
          CORRECT. 
          OKAY. 
          SO HOW DIFFICULT, AND I THINK YOU SAID YESTERDAY THERE MIGHT BE TWO LEAD LATERALS. 
          6 6 6 ON, SORRY, SIX ON SIX ON 45, 2 ON, ON MAIN STREET THAT THEY DID SEVERAL. 
          SO YOU HAD THE NUMBER RIGHT? JUST, I PROBABLY CONFUSED IT 'CAUSE I MENTIONED MAIN STREET BEFORE, BUT MAIN STREET'S HIGHWAY 28 GOING EAST, SO THAT HAS TWO REMAINING ON IT. 
          AND, AND THAT'S THE CONSTRUCTION THAT THEY'RE WORKING ON RIGHT 
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NOW, H HIGHWAY 45. 
          SO THERE'S SIX OF 'EM. 
          OKAY. 
          THAT ARE POTENTIAL RIGHT NOW, UH, THAT, THAT THE VILLAGE KNOWS OF. 
          SO, UM, THEY'RE DOING THEIR DUE DILIGENCE AND I'LL GIVE THEM CREDIT FOR THAT. 
          AND LIKE I SAID, THEY'VE REACHED OUT AS WELL AS THE, UM, ONE OF THE LANDOWNERS. 
          SO, SO HOW, HOW DIFFICULT WOULD THAT BE BECAUSE THEY'VE ALREADY GOT THEIR PLANS ALREADY DONE. 
          THEY'VE ALREADY STARTED. 
          SO HOW DIFFICULT WOULD THAT BE FOR THEM TO, UH, INCORPORATE, INCORPORATE THIS INTO THEIR, INTO THEIR CURRENT PLAN? I, I IMAGINE THERE'S A LOT OF PEOPLE YOU HAVE TO COORDINATE WITH. 
          WE WOULD BE, FIRST OF ALL, WE'D OBVIOUSLY CONTACT THE VILLAGE TO HAVE THEM ACCEPT THE GRANT, UM, WOULD BE STEP NUMBER ONE. 
          AND IF THEY DO ACCEPT THAT GRANT, WHETHER IT'S GRANT ONE OR A COMBINATION OF GRANT ONE AND TWO, UH, THEN WE'D WORK WITH THEM AS FAR AS SEEING IF THEIR CONTRACTOR WOULD BE WILLING TO DO THAT WORK WHILE THEY'RE ON SITE OR IF THEY'D HAVE TO DO A SEPARATE BID FOR THAT WORK THAT'S OUTSIDE OF THE RIGHT OF WAY BECAUSE THE, THE CONTRACTOR IS MOST LIKELY STAYING WITHIN THE RIGHT OF WAY, STAYING FROM THE, THE BACK OF THE SIDEWALK IN AGAIN, MOST LIKELY. 
          AND SO NOW WE'RE TALKING ABOUT WORKING FROM THE BACK OF THE SIDEWALK BACK, THERE'S, THAT ROAD'S GONNA BE UNDER CONSTRUCTION FOR QUITE SOME TIME UNFORTUNATELY. 
          SO THERE'S, THERE'S TIME FOR THAT ROAD WILL STILL BE CLOSED WHILE THEY CAN ACTUALLY GET IN THERE AND, AND DO THAT WORK AND NOT DISTURB. 
          AND UM, EVEN IF IT'S NOT TILL OCTOBER OR NOVEMBER, THEY DO THE WORK. 
          BUT IF WE HAVE TO WORK THROUGH SOME, SOME PROCESSES, UH, IN THE MEANTIME THAT I, I DON'T THINK IT'S, IT'S INSURMOUNTABLE TO BE DONE AS PART OF THIS PROJECT. 
          UM, EVEN IF THEY HAVE TO DO A SEPARATE BID ITEM OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT, WE'RE TALKING SIX HOMES. 
          UH, THE CITY OF HARTFORD JUST WENT THROUGH THE PROCESS. 
          SO WE HAVE GOOD DATA WITH IN OUR COUNTY, UH, A CONTRACTOR SO WE CAN CONTACT AND AFFIRM THAT DID THE WORK FOR THEM SO THAT THE SETUP TIME HOPEFULLY WOULD NOT BE, UM, TOO GREAT FOR THEM TO GET THAT, GET THAT MOVING. 
          I HAVE NOT MADE PERSONAL CONTACT WITH THEM YET. 
          THAT WAS NOT WHAT THE DISCUSSION CURTAILED UPON LAST NIGHT. 
          I THINK THE COUNTY EXECUTIVE WAS GONNA MAKE THE FIRST CONTACT. 
          OKAY. 
          AND SO WHAT, WHAT, WHAT DOES THAT PROCESS LOOK LIKE? UM, ADDING Q THOSE, THOSE SIX HOMES IN KIOSK? SO, I MEAN, WE'RE WAITING, WE'RE WAITING FOR A DECISION FROM, FROM, UM, CITY OF WEST BEND, RIGHT? BUT THERE SHIFT DISCUSSION, SHIFT DISCUSSION WAS HAD ABOUT ADDITIONAL ARPA DOLLARS BEING POTENTIALLY USED FOR THOSE PROJECTS WAS ONE OF THE DECISIONS. 
          UM, BUT RIGHT NOW WE DON'T HAVE AN ANSWER FROM THE CITY OF WEST BEND WHERE, YOU KNOW, IF WE'RE TALKING 5,000 PER LOT AND THERE'S, THERE'S SIX OF THEM THAT'S $30,000. 
          SO MAYBE THE GRANT INSTEAD OF BEING 3 MILLION IS NOW TWO $2,970,000. 
          SO I THINK THAT'S WHAT THE EXECUTIVE NEEDS TO, TO WORK OUT AND FLUSH OUT WITH THE ARPA DOLLARS BEING, YOU KNOW, HIS TO DISPENSE. 
          THAT WAS KIND OF GONNA BE MY QUESTION THEN. 
          MM-HMM. 
          , I MEAN THIS, UH, 3 MILLION, RIGHT? YES. 
          THIS IS NOT THE END. 
          THERE COULD POSSIBLY BE MORE COMING DOWN THE ROAD AS WELL. 
          I THINK THE COUNTY EXECUTIVE MADE IT CLEAR THAT IF, IF THIS GOES WELL AND IF THERE'S FUNDING AVAILABLE, WE WOULD LIKE TO CONTINUE THIS. 
          THAT'S WHERE I MENTIONED THAT THERE'S, YES, IT'S IMPORTANT TO, THE FIRST STEP'S ALWAYS THE HARDEST AND IT'S BEEN A HARD FIRST STEP, UH, BUT I'M HOPING THAT WE HAVE MANY MORE STEPS AND AT SOME TIME WE'RE RUNNING WITH THIS AND, AND YEARS FROM NOW WE LOOK BACK GOING, WOW, WHAT WERE WE TALKING ABOUT? THIS IS, THIS IS EASY. 
          LET'S JUST, LET'S JUST GET IT DONE. 
          SO I THINK IT WOULD BE, I THINK IT WOULD BE FAIR TO SAY THAT IF THE COUNTY'S GONNA GET INTO THIS PROGRAM OF LEAD LATERAL REPLACEMENT, WE SHOULD NOT END THE PROGRAM JUST BECAUSE THE ARPA FUND IS GONE. 
          AND I THINK THAT'S WHAT OUR EXECUTIVE WAS REFERRING TO THAT. 
          OKAY, OKAY. 
          ARPA MONEY'S GONE, YOU KNOW, NO MORE LEAD LATERAL, YOU KNOW, THAT WOULD NOT BE A, A JUSTICE TO OUR, I AGREE WITH THAT. 
          OUR COUNTY, OUR RESIDENTS OR THE LEAD, THE PEOPLE THAT HAVE LEAD LATERALS. 
          SO I BELIEVE THAT'S, IS THAT AN APPROPRIATE MESSAGE? I MEAN THAT HE WOULD, IF THIS WORKS AND IT GOES GOOD, THEN WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO FUND IT, WHETHER IT'S LEVY OR, YOU KNOW, THIS FIRST HIT HERE IS COMING FROM THE ARPA FUNDS. 
          OKAY. 
          IF THAT'S A FAIR STATEMENT. 
          MM-HMM. 
          CORRECT. 
          YEAH. 
          JUST 'CAUSE OF THE TIMING ON THIS SUCKS. 
          'CAUSE YOU, LIKE YOU SAID, NOW WE'RE MOVING FORWARD WITH IT AND TRYING TO CATCH UP. 
          YEAH. 
          IF WE CAN KEEP IT MOVING DOWN TO YEARS, THEN WE CAN START TYING THINGS TOGETHER AND MAKE IT WORK WITH, UH, YOU KNOW, WEST BEND'S ROAD PROGRAM. 
          YEAH. 
          THAT'S PART OF THE IMPORTANCE OF MEETING SOON BECAUSE WE, WE, LIKE SUPERVISOR NEWMAN SAID, I UNDERSTAND THE DESIGN TIME AND WHAT, WHAT THAT MEANS. 
          IT'S, IT'S REAL MM-HMM . 
          UM, THE, THE FORTUNATE THING IS THAT, UH, WITH OUR RECONSTRUCTION PROJECT, WE ALSO HAVE TO DEAL WITH A LOT OF PURCHASING OF RIGHT OF WAY. 
          AND TYPICALLY SPEAKING, WHEN A CITY DOES RECONSTRUCT, THEY 
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DON'T HAVE TO DO A LOT OF RIGHT AWAY ACQUISITIONS. 
          SO THAT DOES MAKE THINGS A LITTLE BIT EASIER. 
          BUT WHEN SUPERVISOR NEWMAN'S MENTIONS UTILITIES, THERE'S NOT JUST THE CITY'S UTILITIES OF SEWER WATER AND STORM SEWER, BUT YOU MIGHT HAVE TO GET WE ENERGIES TO MOVE A GAS MAINE, YOU MIGHT HAVE TO GET WE ENERGIES TO MOVE AN ELECTRIC MAINE, YOU MIGHT HAVE TO GET AT AND T OUT THERE OR, OR SOME OTHER TDS AND O CAME, I BELIEVE THEY CAME THROUGH THE CITY. 
          SO, UM, IT'S THAT TYPE OF COORDINATION AND GETTING THE, YOUR PLANS DONE AT OF TIME SO THEY CAN MOVE THEIR STUFF BEFORE THE OTHER STUFF CAN MAYBE EVEN GET INTO THE GROUND. 
          SO THAT, THAT TIMELINE IS, IS A REAL TIMELINE THAT SUPERVISOR NEWMAN MENTIONED AND THAT'S THE, THE IMPORTANCE OF KEEPING THIS THING MOVING. 
          SOUNDS GOOD. 
          ANY OTHER QUESTIONS, COMMENTS? I SEEING NONE. 
          THIS IS IT FOR THE MEETING AND I DO WANT TO SAY I APPRECIATE HAVING ALL YOU GUYS ON THIS COMMITTEE FOR THE LAST TWO YEARS AND WE'LL SEE WHAT HAPPENS AFTER THE ELECTION. 
          RIGHT. 
          OKAY. 
          AND, AND WHO'S PART OF THIS, UH, THIS COMMITTEE NOW? WITH THAT BEING SAID, UH, THE NEXT MEETING DATES TO BE DETERMINED, UH, AND THIS MEETING IS ADJOURNED. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU ALL AS WELL. 
          IT'S BEEN GREAT. 
          THANK YOU.
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