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AND TAKE A MOMENT OF SILENT PRAYER AND PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE.I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AS THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS, ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL.
OKAY, AT THIS TIME I'D LIKE TO, UH, WE ARE GOING TO BE OPENING A PUBLIC, UH, S UM, I IF, UH, THE CLERK COULD GO AHEAD AND READ NOTICES.
HEREBY, GIVEN THAT A PUBLIC HEARING WILL BE HELD AT A MEETING OF THE WASHINGTON COUNTY LAND USE AND PLANNING COMMITTEE IN ROOM 10 19 OF THE WASHINGTON COUNTY GOVERNMENT CENTER.
4 3 2 EAST WASHINGTON STREET, WEST
[2. Public Hearing]
BEND, WISCONSIN.ON THURSDAY, MAY 16TH, 2024, AT 7:30 AM THERE WILL BE HEARD AND CONSIDERED THE PETITION OF HTS FAMILY, LLC CARE OF HOMER SCHULTZ FOR A CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT FOR ASSOCIATED FILLING, GRADING AND EXCAVATING OF GREATER THAN ONE ACRE WITHIN 300 FEET OF A NAVIGABLE STREAM NAMED POLK SPRINGS FOR NEW COMMERCIAL BUILDINGS AND ASSOCIATED LANDSCAPING STORM WATER AND EROSION CONTROL IN A SHORELAND WETLAND AND FLOODPLAIN ZONING DISTRICT DATED THIS 25TH DAY OF APRIL, 2024.
UH, THIS MORNING, UH, THE PUB.
THE PURPOSE OF THIS MORNING'S PUBLIC HEARING IS FOR THE COMMITTEE TO RECEIVE PUBLIC COMMENT ON THE CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT APPLICATION SUBMITTED BY HTS FAMILY, L-L-C-C-O, HOMER SCHULTZ.
THE COMMITTEE'S SOLE FUNCTION IS TO CONSIDER WHETHER A PERMIT SHOULD BE GRANTED TO ALLOW FOR FILING, GRADING, AND EXCAVATING GREATER THAN ONE ACRE WITHIN 300 FEET OF AN ORDINARY HIGH WATER MARK OF PULP SPRINGS CREEK.
PUBLIC COMMENT MUST BE LIMITED TO THIS ISSUE.
COMMENTS OFF TALK TOPIC AS DIRECTED BY ME, AS THE CHAIR OF THIS COMMITTEE, WILL NOT BE CONSIDERED BY THIS COMMITTEE.
MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC WISHING TO SPEAK MAY NOT ASK QUESTIONS OF THE COMMITTEE, THE APPLICANT, OR COUNTY STAFF REMARKS ARE LIMITED TO THREE MINUTES.
UH, AT THIS TIME, WE ARE OPENING, UH, THE PUBLIC, UH, MEETING.
UH, FIRST ASK FOR A MOTION AND A SECOND.
YOU DON'T NEED, YOU DON'T NEED A MOTION.
WHAT'S THAT? YOU DON'T NEED A MOTION.
YOU JUST OPEN THE, YOU JUST OPENED THE HEARING.
UH, WHO CALL THE FIRST SHERIFF? MARK? MARK WOLF.
UM, I'M REALLY CONCERNED ABOUT HAVING HOMERS PUT, UH, PROPERTY, USE THIS PROPERTY FOR TOWING AND PAINTING AND, AND JUST PUTTING IT UP HERE, BECAUSE I TOOK A PICTURE THE OTHER DAY, IF YOU GUYS WANNA LOOK AT IT AFTER IT RAINED.
AND, AND MAJORITY OF THE PROPERTY IS UNDER WATER AFTER ONE RAIN ON ONE DAY.
SO IF HE'S PLANNING ON TOWING OR BRINGING VEHICLES IN FOR LEAKAGE OR WHATEVER, WE'RE WORRIED ABOUT OUR WATER.
'CAUSE IF, IF HE'S TOWING AND BRINGING IN WRECKED VEHICLES OR VEHICLES THAT NEED TO BE REPAIRED, THAT ARE DEAD, 99% OF THE TIME THEY'RE LEAKING SOMETHING AND WE'RE AFRAID THAT THE, IT'S GONNA LEAK INTO THE WATER SYSTEM.
'CAUSE THERE'S NO, WELL, WE HAVE WELLS, WE HAVE PONDS, WE HAVE FISH, WE HAVE TURKEYS, DEER CRANES THAT ALL LIVE IN THE WATER.
AND BEING THAT HE'S RIGHT NEXT TO THE WETLANDS, AND THEN I, IF I'M SAYING THIS RIGHT, THE THE WOODS IS WETLANDS, AND THE WETLANDS OUT IS SHORELAND.
THAT'S WHAT PROTECTS THE WETLANDS.
BUT IF HE WANTS TO BUILD HIS PROPERTY THERE AND DO WHAT HE'S DOING TO A RETENTION POND, ALL HE IS DIGGING IS A POND.
'CAUSE THE WATER LEVEL AROUND OUR AREA IS LIKE FOUR FEET AND YOU HIT WATER.
SO IF HE'S GONNA DIG A, A RETENTION POND TO HOLD WATER, ALL HE'S DIGGING IS A POND.
IT'S GONNA, HE'LL HAVE A PUMP THERE PUMPING OUT THE WATER AS HE'S PUTTING, DIGGING THE POND.
'CAUSE SITE TECH PUT A POND BY HIS PROPERTY.
WAY ON THE FAR EAST SIDE OF THIS PROPERTY, THEY DUG A RETENTION POND.
IF YOU GO ON THE AERIAL, IT'S A, IT'S A POND.
THE DUCKS ARE IN IT 'CAUSE IT'S, IT FILLS RIGHT UP.
SO WE'RE WORRIED, VERY WORRIED THAT OUR LAND IS GONNA GET POLLUTED OR COULD GET POLLUTED.
I SHOULDN'T SAY IT WILL, BUT IF IT DOES, WHO'S GOING
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TO, WHO'S GONNA TAKE CARE OF IT? SO WE'RE HOPING THAT YOU GUYS TAKE CARE OF IT TODAY FOR US, SO WE DON'T HAVE TO WORRY DOWN THE ROAD ON THE BIG PROBLEM.HOW DO YOU GET RID OF POLLUTION? SO I THANK YOU VERY MUCH AND I HOPE YOU CONSIDER THIS.
THE NEXT PERSON, DON, IS IT TOMA OR TOM OR THORN? I DUNNO.
I AM DON TOMA AND I AM FROM ACCURATE SURVEYING.
UM, MY ADDRESS IS 29 11 WILDLIFE LANE RICHFIELD.
I'M HERE ON BEHALF OF THE PETITIONER AND, UH, THE STAFF FOR WASHINGTON COUNTY HAS REVIEWED THE SITE, REVIEWED THE RETENTION POND, REVIEWED THE RUNOFF FOR IT, AND IT COMPLIES TO ALL OF THEIR REGULATIONS.
UM, THIS IS NOT, I HEARD THE COMMENT JUST BEFORE, AND THIS IS NOT A TOLL LOT.
IT WILL HAVE A ASPHALT PARKING LOT.
UM, THE NEIGHBORS ARE CONCERNED ABOUT WATER RUNOFF AND, UM, OIL THAT'S LEAKING FROM VEHICLES THAT ARE TOWED IN DAMAGED VEHICLES IS NOT A TOW LOT, AND IT DOES NOT HAVE AN IMPOUND LOT.
SO THE TOWING SERVICE THAT THE PETITIONER HAS IS GONNA BE TO STORE HIS TOWING VEHICLES AND TO TOW VEHICLES THAT NEED SERVICE INTO HIS FACILITY.
UM, HE HAS OTHER TOW LOTS THAT THOSE VEHICLES THAT ARE DAMAGED WILL GO TO THOSE TOW LOTS.
UM, AS FAR AS THE RETENTION POND, THERE ARE WET RETENTION PONDS AND THERE ARE DRY RETENTION PONDS.
THIS AREA, IT, THE, THE POND IS DETERMINED BY THE GROUND WATER IN THE TYPE OF SOIL.
SO THESE PONDS WILL BE WET PONDS.
SO THEY ARE DESIGNED TO HOLD WATER.
UM, AND, UH, I SEE NO ISSUE WITH THAT.
BUT THE SITE IS ALL DESIGNED TO GRADE TO A CERTAIN LOCATIONS.
THE REASON WATER IS SITTING THERE IS BECAUSE IT'S VERY FLAT AND IT'S NOT GRADED PROPERLY.
IF YOU REVIEW THE GRADING PLAN, IT WILL ALL DRAIN TO CERTAIN AREAS BETTER THAN IT DOES RIGHT NOW.
UM, I DON'T SEE ANY REASON THAT THIS, THIS IS ZONED FOR COMMERCIAL AND B ONE, IT HAS BEEN ON THE TOWN'S COMPREHENSIVE PLAN FOR MORE THAN 10 YEARS.
AND, UM, MAYBE THE NEIGHBORS ARE JUST LUCKY.
SOMETHING ELSE HASN'T BEEN HERE 10 YEARS AGO.
BUT, UH, IT'S, IT'S ZONED FOR WHAT THEY'RE PROPOSING TO DO FOR A BUSINESS.
AND, UM, I HOPE YOU CONSIDER IT.
AND, UH, I THINK YOUR CONSIDERATION IS THE STORM WATER OR THE RUNOFF AND THE CONTAMINATIONS TO THE POKE, STR, POKE SPRINGS CREEK.
AND THE GRADING PLAN SPEAKS FOR ITSELF, THAT IT WILL NOT GO TO THE SPRING TO POKE SPRINGS CREEK.
IT'LL GO INTO THE RETENTION PONDS AND IT'LL BE MANAGED JUST LIKE STORMWATER MANAGEMENT IS ALWAYS MANAGED.
OUR NEXT SPEAKER, WALTER BAYER.
I LIVE AT 2 6 2 6 MAYFIELD WAY.
I LIVE NEXT TO A CURRENT LOCATION THAT HOMER PUT IN APPROXIMATELY FOUR YEARS AGO.
UM, I CAN ATTEST OF ALL THE THINGS THAT WE'VE GONE THROUGH BASED ON HIS CURRENT SITE, TRUCKS COMING IN AND OUT ALL HOURS OF THE DAY AND NIGHT, STARTING THE TRUCKS IN THE MIDDLE OF THE NIGHT, POINTING 'EM AT THE NEIGHBORS.
SO THE NOISE AND EVERYTHING IS ONE THING.
HIS CURRENT SITE IS ALSO NEXT TO AN ISOLATED WETLAND.
I CURRENTLY HAVE ISSUES THAT I'VE BEEN DEALING WITH THE COUNTY AND BOTH THE DNR, THAT RECENT CHANGES ON HIS PROPERTY HAS CAUSED EXCESS WATER TO FLOW TOWARDS MINE.
I'M CONCERNED WITH THE CONTAMINATION RUNOFF BECAUSE I HAVE A POND ON MY SIDE ALSO.
SO THE DNR IS INVESTIGATING, THE COUNTY'S INVESTIGATING, AND ALL I CAN DO IS WAIT, BUT I'M CONCERNED 'CAUSE I'VE BEEN THERE 44 YEARS AND I'VE MAINTAINED MY PROPERTY WELL AND I DON'T WANT SOMETHING HAPPENING.
NOW AS FAR AS THE CURRENT SITE, I WAS AT THE TOM MORTON MEETING WHEN HE MADE HIS PROPOSAL.
HE SAID HE WANTS TO DO HEAVY BODY WORK IN THERE, INCLUDING PAINTING.
HE WANTS TO DISPATCH TOW TRUCKS OUT OF THE SITE.
AND I'M NOT SURE IF HE'S GONNA STORE OR NOT, BECAUSE AT THE TIME WHEN THEY ASKED HIM HOW LONG HE'S GONNA STORE VEHICLES ON THIS SITE, HE SAID BY LAW HE HAS TO KEEP 'EM 21 DAYS, WHICH IS THE LAW GOVERNING TOWED IN VEHICLES.
SO WHY HE BROUGHT THAT UP, IF HE'S NOT GONNA BRING TRUCKS IN THERE TO TOW, IS RATHER CONFUSING TO ME.
MY EXPERIENCE WITH HIM HAS BEEN WHAT
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HE SAYS HE'S GONNA DO.AND HE TRIES TO COME OFF VERY NICE.
AND I TAKE PEOPLE FOR THEIR WORD IS NOT WHAT HE DOES.
I HAD ONE NEIGHBOR THAT I'VE KNOWN FOR 30 YEARS.
HE MOVED OUT AFTER HIS TWO OF HIS DRIVERS CONFRONTED HIM AND HIS OWN PROPERTY.
SO I HAVE CURRENT PICTURES OF HIS CURRENT SITE AT MAYFIELD WAY.
I'D LIKE TO, IF YOU WANNA TAKE A LOOK AT 'EM.
AND I ALSO HAVE CURRENT PICTURES OF WHAT HIS SITE LOOKS LIKE IN MILWAUKEE.
AND IT'LL SHOW EVERYTHING THAT'S ON THE GROUND.
NOW IN THE CURRENT SITE PICTURES, HE HAS A LOT BACK THERE THAT'S LISTED WITH ASPHALT.
THE LOT IS GRADED TO THE BACKSIDE OF THE PROPERTY TO A SWALE.
THE SWALE CIRCUMVENT CIRCLES, THE PARKING LOT GOES INTO A CULVERT THAT GOES INTO HIS RETENTION POND AS RETENTION POND IS DISCHARGED TOWARDS THE WETLAND.
AND NOW THAT WATER IS STARTING TO TRAVEL TOWARDS ME BECAUSE OF A NEW CULVERT THAT WAS PUT IN, IN HIS DRIVEWAY.
THE NEXT ONE DOES ROBERT LOIN LO.
UH, I'M CONCERNED ABOUT THE WATER CONTAMINATION, THE WILDLIFE.
UM, THERE'S A REASON WHY IT'S WETLANDS.
I DO BELIEVE WE SHOULD KEEP 'EM THAT WAY.
EVERYBODY ELSE SAID PRETTY MUCH WHAT I WAS GONNA SAY, BUT I HOPE YOU CONSIDER REFUSING THIS PROPOSAL.
I BELIEVE THE LAST ONE THAT WE HAVE IS DAVID LINK.
WE WATCH WILDLIFE IN OUR YARD AND ACROSS SCENIC ROAD.
DEER TRAINS, GEESE, RABBITS, COYOTES.
APPARENTLY HOMER TOWING HAS BOUGHT THIS PROPERTY AS A TOWING BUSINESS.
CRASH VEHICLES WOULD BE COMING UP AND DOWN SCENIC ROAD.
TOXIC LEAKS WOULD BE UNAVOIDABLE.
OILS, GAS, ANTIFREEZE, DEBRIS, GLASS, STEEL, PLASTIC, UNVIABLE, UNAVOIDABLE, UNACCEPTABLE.
THESE VEHICLES REMAIN ON SITE TILL CLAIMED.
THIS MAKES ME QUESTION THE ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACT OF THIS LAND PURCHASE.
DNR LAWS, GUIDELINES WERE PUT IN PLACE FOR A REASON.
WHY SHOULD THEY BE CHANGED NOW? THANK YOU.
UH, AT THIS TIME I'D LIKE TO CALL FOR ANY OTHER PEOPLE WISHING TO SPEAK IF THERE ARE ANY AVAILABLE.
ANYBODY ELSE WISHING TO SPEAK? LAST CALL.
FOR ANYBODY ELSE WISHING TO SPEAK, SEEING NANA WILL DECLARE THIS PUBLIC HEARING CLOSED AT THIS TIME.
UM, IS THERE ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE STAFF? OKAY, THEN ALL SIGNIFY IS SITTING ON.
WE ALSO HAVE, UH, MEMBERS OF THE ORIGINAL TASK FORCE HERE.
UH, EXCUSE ME, THIS, UH, UM, I'D LIKE TO JUST RECOGNIZE, UH, THEIR PRESENCE.
UH, JAMIE, DO YOU NEED TO SPEAK ON ANYTHING HERE OR DO WE NEED TO ON THE CONDITIONAL USE THAT YOU JUST APPROVED? YEAH.
NOT UNLESS THERE ARE QUESTIONS.
ANY QUESTIONS BY THE ORIGINAL TASK FORCE OR ANYTHING? YOU ALL GOOD? ALRIGHT.
ALRIGHT, I, I HAVE A QUESTION.
UH, IS THERE ANYONE FROM THE CONSERVATION, OUR CONSERVATION GROUP HERE, WHO CAN ADDRESS ANY OF THE COMMENTS OR OBJECTIONS THIS MORNING? UM, YOU ALREADY, YOU GUYS ALREADY APPROVED THIS, SO.
AT THIS TIME, WE'RE GONNA BRING UP THE, UH, MINUTES.
UH, ANY PROBLEMS OR CONCERNS WITH THE MINUTES,
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UH, WE'LL ADDRESS NOW.OTHERWISE WE'LL GO AHEAD AND CONCENT THOSE FORWARD ON SCENE.
WE ARE TO ELECT A VICE CHAIRPERSON.
MR. MARY, MR. CHAIRMAN, I WOULD SUGGEST WE HAVE SUPERVISOR KREBS SERVING A CAPACITY AS VICE CHAIR.
[a. Minutes of March 21, 2024]
ON HIS COMMITTEE BEFORE.HE WORKS WITH THE BUILDING INDUSTRY.
HE UNDERSTANDS MORE OF THE CODES THAN WE EVER WILL.
UH, AND I WOULD THINK HE WOULD DO AN EXCELLENT JOB AS VICE CHAIR OF THIS COMMITTEE.
THANK YOU, SIR, FOR YOUR INPUT.
UH, MR. KREBS, WOULD YOU ACCEPT? I WOULD ACCEPT.
SO, MR. KREBS IS ACCEPTED THE NOMINATION.
ARE THERE ANY MORE NOMINATIONS FROM THE FLOOR? HEARING NONE.
I WILL DECLARE THAT MR. KREBS AS THE VICE CHAIRMAN BY UNANIMOUS CONSENT.
AT THIS TIME, WE'LL ALSO BE ELECTING A, UH, SECRETARY OF THIS COMMITTEE.
UH, THIS IS A ROLE THAT I WAS NOT FAMILIAR WITH.
I CHECKED WITH BRAD THAT THERE ARE OCCASIONS WHEN STATE STATUTE REQUIRES THE SIGNATURE, UH, SIGNATURE ON CERTAIN, UH, DOCUMENTS, LEGAL DOCUMENTS FROM A COMMITTEE PERSON, UH, THAT IS DECLARED SECRETARY.
SO AT THIS TIME, IT WOULD TAKE NOMINATION FOR ELECTION OF A SECRETARY.
CAN I NOMINATE? SUPER CHAIR, RECOGNIZES TINA PRIDE, SUPERVISOR PAM CONRAD.
YOU'VE BEEN NOMINATED FOR A SECRETARY.
WOULD YOU ACCEPT THIS NOMINATION?
THERE REALLY AREN'T THAT MANY DUTIES, BEN.
YOU MAY NOT EVEN HAVE TO DO ANYTHING.
I'LL, I'LL ACCEPT IF SOMEBODY ELSE, UM, ANY OTHER NOMINATIONS FROM THE FLOOR? HEARING NONE, THEN I WOULD DECLARE THAT PAM CONRAD IS THE SECRETARY, UH, OF THE LAND USE AND PLANNING COMMITTEE.
SEE THAT TRAIN COMING? DID YOU, NO.
OUR FIRST DISCUSSION ITEM, UH, WE'LL NEED A MOTION AND A SECOND.
NO, WE DON'T HONOR ON THE DISCUSSION ITEM.
UM, WE WILL BE DISCUSSING, UH, UH, THE DIVISION OF UW EXTENSION COUNTY PARTNERSHIP GUIDANCE, UH, TO SPEAK ON
[c. Discussion on Division of UW-Extension – County Partnership Guidance]
THAT.UH, WE'LL, WE'LL PUT HER ON THE SPOT.
UM, FOR THOSE OF YOU WATCHING, MY NAME IS JAMIE LUDOVIC, COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT OFFICER FOR WASHINGTON COUNTY.
UM, SO THIS ACTUALLY, UM, JUST A LITTLE BIT OF BACKGROUND OF WHAT BROUGHT THIS ON THE AGENDA.
LAST WEEK, UW EXTENSION APPROACHED BOTH, UM, THE COUNTY EXECUTIVE AS WELL AS THE LIAISON COMMITTEE, UW EXTENSION OVERSIGHT COMMITTEE, WHICH THE LAND USE AND PLANNING COMMITTEE IS THAT, UM, ASKING FOR ANY FEEDBACK ON THEIR PARTNERSHIP GUIDANCE DOCUMENT.
SO THIS IS THE, UH, I BELIEVE IT'S ABOUT, YOU KNOW, A 17 PAGE DOCUMENT OR SO INCLUDED IN, IN YOUR ATTACHMENTS.
THEY ARE UNDERGOING A REVISION PROCESS AS PART OF, UM, JUST WANTING TO UPDATE AND SOME OF THE CONVERSATIONS THEY'VE BEEN HAVING WITH COUNTIES ACROSS THE STATE.
UM, IN WASHINGTON COUNTY, WE RECENTLY CONVENED A TASK FORCE TO EVALUATE UW EXTENSION WITH THE PREVIOUS LAND USE AND PLANNING COMMITTEE.
UM, AND IN AND, AND THOUGHT THAT, UM, BECAUSE THE COUNTY EXECUTIVE IS PLANNING TO RESPOND TO THEIR REQUEST FOR GUIDANCE IN CONSULTATION WITH, UM, CHAIR KEL.
UM, AND WE DECIDED THAT WE SHOULD ALSO GIVE THE OVERSIGHT COMMITTEE AN OPPORTUNITY TO RESPOND.
UM, BECAUSE OF THE TRANSITION, UM, HE THOUGHT IT WAS A GOOD IDEA TO INVITE THE TASK FORCE AND KIND OF THE PREVIOUS COMMITTEE.
I SEE A COUPLE MEMBERS HERE, UM, BECAUSE THEY HAVE THAT BACKGROUND FROM THOSE CONVERSATIONS.
UM, THERE WAS A LETTER, UH, SUPERVISOR MARY WAS THE CHAIR AT THE TIME.
HE PRODUCED THAT LETTER THAT'S ALSO IN THE PACKET, UM, BECAUSE IT KIND OF SETS THIS FOUNDATION FOR THE FEEDBACK.
UM, SO AS IF YOU, AND I'M GONNA GO A LITTLE BIT SLOWER THROUGH THE, THROUGH WHAT'S IN YOUR PACKET.
THERE IS AN ATTACHMENT THAT TALKS A LITTLE BIT ABOUT KIND OF THE RECENT CONVERSATIONS WE'VE BEEN HAVING ABOUT PUTTING TOGETHER A PREMIER WISCONSIN FOUR H PROGRAM FOCUSED ON POST-SECONDARY PATHWAYS.
UM, BECAUSE WE HAVE BEEN WORKING VERY CLOSELY AND IN PARTNERSHIP WITH, UM, OUR UW EXTENSION AREA DIRECTOR AND THE STAFF WE HAVE IN WASHINGTON
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COUNTY, UM, IT'S, WE HAVE A, AN UPCOMING MEETING WITH A MARINE PARK TECHNICAL COLLEGE AND THEIR K THROUGH 12 EDUCATORS WHERE WE'RE GONNA KIND OF DISCUSS THIS.UM, AND THE, THE RECOMMENDATIONS FROM THE TASK FORCE AND THE DIRECTION AROUND FOUR H IS ACTUALLY A PROPOSED FUTURE CONVERSATION WITH THIS COMMITTEE, LIKELY JUNE OR JULY.
UM, BUT THEN WE GOT THE REQUEST FOR FEEDBACK ON THIS DOCUMENT BY JUNE 1ST.
AND, AND SO AS PART OF THAT DISCUSSION, ONE OF THE POINTS IS THAT THE COUNTY EXECUTIVE MAKES, AND I'LL READ HIS LETTER, BUT IT'S ILLUSTRATED IN THE EMAIL CHAIN AS WELL, IS THAT WE ARE SETTING LOCAL PRIORITIES AND WE ARE WORKING WITH THEM.
UM, AND THE FUNDING IS NOT AVAILABLE FOR TRANSITIONS OR SWITCHES.
AND SO WHAT THIS REALLY ILLUSTRATES IS WE'RE NOT HAVING, WE'RE WORKING GREAT TOGETHER, I BELIEVE WITH THE LOCAL UW EXTENSION STAFF.
UM, BUT THERE IS THIS, THIS STRUCTURE IN PLACE WITHIN THE INSTITUTES THAT, YOU KNOW, AT THE COUNTY LEVEL, WE DON'T HAVE THE ABILITY TO PENETRATE.
UM, SO THAT'S KIND OF WHAT LED TO THE COUNTY EXECUTIVE'S COMMENTS.
AND I'M JUST GOING TO READ THEM TO YOU AND, AND THEN YOU HAVE KIND OF A DISCUSSION, UM, CHAIR THAT YOU CAN LEAD.
BUT IT SAYS, DEAR DR. MARTIN, THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO COMMENT ON THE DIVISION OF EXTENSION COUNTY PARTNERSHIP GUIDANCE DOCUMENT.
AS YOU ARE LIKELY AWARE, WASHINGTON COUNTY HAS BEEN UNDERTAKING A REVIEW OF THE ROLE OF UW EXTENSION IN OUR COMMUNITY TO ENSURE TAXPAYERS, OUR RESIDENTS, AND BUSINESSES ARE GETTING WHAT THEY NEED.
AS I HAVE STATED PUBLICLY, THERE HAS BEEN A CONCERNING DEPARTURE FROM THE WISCONSIN IDEA WITH THE UW, MORE FOCUSED ON ITSELF MOVING FOCUS AWAY FROM THE REAL NEEDS OF OUR PEOPLE, BUSINESSES, AND COMMUNITIES.
MEANWHILE, UW CAMPUSES ARE CLOSING, STAFF ARE BEING LAID OFF, PROGRAMS ARE ENDING IN CULTURE, WARS AND ANTISEMITISM ARE UNDERMINING OUR VALUES.
I COMMISSIONED A TASK FORCE TO ADDRESS THESE ISSUES.
FOLLOWING NUMEROUS MEETINGS, INCLUDING VARIOUS PRESENTATIONS AND DISCUSSIONS, THE TASK FORCE FORWARDED THE FOLLOWING FINDINGS AND RECOMMENDATIONS.
UW EXTENSION SERVICES HISTORICALLY PROVIDED IN THE COMMUNITY HAVE CHANGED AND EXTENSION EDUCATORS ARE NOT BEING USED AS THEY ONCE WERE.
UW EXTENSION PROGRAMMING HAS REDUNDANCY IN THE COMMUNITY.
FOUR H CONTINUES TO HOLD GREAT VALUE IN THE COMMUNITY AND SHOULD BE ENHANCED AND EXPANDED BY WORKING WITH CLUBS IN STEM AND EDUCATIONAL INSTITUTIONS.
CURRENT UW EXTENSION EDUCATOR VACANCIES SHOULD NOT BE FILLED YET.
REGIONAL CROPS EDUCATOR POSITION SHOULD BE RETAINED IN THE VACANT DAIRY EDUCATOR OR POSITIONS SHOULD BE DISCUSSED.
THE COUNTY MUST HONOR ITS CONTRACTUAL OBLIGATIONS WITH UW EXTENSION, WHICH RUN THROUGH DECEMBER 31ST, 2025.
IMPORTANTLY, WE HAVE DONE JUST WHAT YOUR GUIDANCE DOCUMENT ARTICULATES, IDENTIFY LOCAL EDUCATIONAL PRIORITIES IN OUR COUNTY AND EVALUATE VACANCIES.
WE HAVE BEEN WORKING WITH YOUR TEAM TO DEVELOP A NEW FOUR H FOCUS ON POST-SECONDARY PATHWAYS, SOMETHING OUR COMMUNITY FEELS IS NEEDED.
SCOPE CREEP, PRECLUDES IT FROM FUNDING LOCAL PRIORITIES, RATHER IT CONTROLS THE DIRECTION THROUGH THE CREATION OF INSTITUTES AND INSTITUTE PRIORITIES.
YOUR DOCUMENT BEGINS BY ACKNOWLEDGING THAT IT'S GONE ASTRAY FROM THE LEGISLATURE'S INITIAL INTENT AND FAILS TO ADDRESS HOW THESE STATEWIDE PRIORITIES ARE CREATED OR FUNDED.
IT ACKNOWLEDGES THE INTEGRATION OF THESE WITH LOCAL PRIORITIES, YET CONTROLS THE FUNDING WITH LITTLE TRANSPARENCY TO COUNTIES.
I WOULD BE REMISS IF I DIDN'T TAKE THIS OPPORTUNITY TO SHARE HOW OUTSTANDING AND PROFESSIONAL CINDY CIRCADIA HAS BEEN TO WORK WITH, ALONG WITH VARIOUS LONGTIME EDUCATORS.
PAUL ACH, CAROL BRA LEAD ELCO IN FOUR H PROGRAM EDUCATOR RONALD JACOBIN DESERVES RECOGNITION DESPITE THE LACK OF VISION AND EXECUTION FROM THE HIGHEST LEVELS OF OUR STATE.
THESE LOCAL TEAMMATES HAVE WORKED TIRELESSLY AND TRIED VALIANTLY.
THEY SHOULD BE COMMENDED FOR THEIR EFFORTS AND DESERVE GREAT CREDIT AND SINCERE GRATITUDE OVERALL.
I WANNA END BY REITERATING OUR POSITION THAT IT'S NOT WHAT IS IN THE GUIDANCE DOCUMENT THAT PRESENTS THE CHALLENGE TO WISCONSIN COUNTIES.
IT'S WHAT IS LACKING YOUR STATED GOAL UNDER SUPPORTING OUR PEOPLE TO ALIGN YOUR OPERATION SYSTEMS TO SUPPORT EXTENSION.
THERE IS NO INTENT TO DELIVER PROGRAMMING WITH LOCAL PRIORITIES AS A FOCUS UNLESS ENTIRELY FUNDED BY THE COUNTIES.
SO LET'S STOP PRETENDING IT IS WITH THAT SENTIMENT THAT I INVITE YOU TO DISCUSS REVITALIZATION OF A NEW WISCONSIN IDEA, WASHINGTON COUNTY LOOKS FORWARD TO OUR CONTINUED PARTNERSHIP DEVELOPING PREMIER WISCONSIN FOUR H CLUBS AND SUPPORTING WISCONSIN'S AGRICULTURE INDUSTRY.
IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT THIS, PLEASE REACH OUT TO MY OFFICE.
SINCERELY, JOSH SHOWMAN, WASHINGTON COUNTY EXECUTIVE.
UH, UH, JUST TAKE A, A QUICK SECOND HERE IN BETWEEN YOUR PRESENTATION.
UM, SINCE THE LAST MEETING OF THIS COMMITTEE, UH, WE'VE HAD AN ELECTION AND THINGS HAVE CHANGED.
UM, BUT I AM VERY PLEASED TO SEE A COUPLE OF THE MEMBERS OF THAT TASK FORCE ARE, ARE WITH US TODAY.
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'CAUSE WE DO WANT TO MAKE THIS AS SEAMLESS AS POSSIBLE.UH, SEVERAL PEOPLE ON THIS COMMITTEE, UH, AS WELL AS THE TASK FORCE ARE VERY COMMITTED, UH, TO FOUR H AND FOUR H IS DEVELOPMENT IN OUR COMMUNITY.
AND, UH, WE, WE FEEL VERY STRONGLY ABOUT THAT.
SO FOR MYSELF, I, I CONCUR WITH THE SETTLEMENTS OF THE COUNTY EXECUTIVE AND, UH, I LOOK FORWARD TO TRYING TO WORK OUR WAY THROUGH THIS DISCUSSION.
UH, JAMIE, DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING ELSE TO ADD? NO, I THINK THIS IS THEN REALLY JUST A DISCUSSION FOR THIS, THIS OVERSIGHT COMMITTEE AS WELL AS WHOEVER ELSE YOU WOULD WANT TO INCLUDE ABOUT IF, BECAUSE YOU ALL WERE ASKED FOR FEEDBACK AS WELL.
SO I THINK THE RECOMMENDATION SAYS, YOU KNOW, MOTION TO ENDORSE THE LETTER.
YOU COULD CRAFT YOUR OWN LETTER.
UM, WE COULD PLAN TO SEND THE TASK FORCE LETTER.
WE COULD ACTUALLY MAKE COMMENTS IN THE DOCUMENTS SPECIFICALLY.
UM, IT REALLY IS WHAT PLEASES THIS BOARD.
UM, OR YOU COULD DO NOTHING UNDERSTANDING WHAT'S GONNA HAPPEN.
SO, SO YOU REALLY HAVE ALL OF THE OPTIONS IN FRONT OF YOU.
UH, I WOULD THEN, AT THIS TIME AS THE COMMITTEE FOR THEIR, UH, CONCERNS OR INTERESTS IN THIS DISCUSSION.
I THINK THE FOUR H IS A GOOD PROGRAM.
I GOT GRANDCHILDREN AND EVERYTHING IN THERE.
AND, UH, IT GIVES THEM A, A LITTLE BIT OF KNOWLEDGE, HOW TO TAKE CARE OF STUFF, RUN A BUSINESS, EVERYTHING ELSE LIKE THAT.
SO I THINK IT'S A GOOD PROGRAM.
UH, I COMMEND OUR COUNTY EXECUTIVE FOR THE WORDING IN HIS LETTER.
UH, I THINK HE HITS IT RIGHT ON THE HEAD.
UH, THE FACT THAT THEY'RE ACKNOWLEDGING THE FACT THAT THEY WANT TO HAVE THEIR PROGRAMS, BUT IF WE COME UP WITH A PROGRAM, WE CAN DO ANYTHING WE WANT TO AS LONG AS WE FUND IT, BUT THEY'RE NOT GONNA SHARE IN ANY OF THOSE EXPENSES.
AND I THINK THAT'S REALLY BEEN THE DRIVER BEHIND THE DISCUSSION ON THE ENTIRE FOUR H EXTENSION TASK FORCE AS TO WHAT WE WERE TRYING TO ACCOMPLISH.
WE'VE GOT SOME FUNDS THAT ARE BEING UNUSED AND WE WANT TO TAKE THOSE FUNDS AND USE THOSE FOR LOCALLY GENERATED PROGRAMS AND PROGRAMS THAT COME TO US, SAY, HEY, COULD WE HELP GET SOME HELP WITH THIS OR THAT, OR WHATEVER.
AND EXTENSION ACCORDINGLY TO THE, THE LETTER WE'VE GOT HERE.
THEY DON'T CARE IF WE WANNA DO IT FINE, BUT THEY'RE NOT GONNA PROVIDE ANY SUPPORT TO IT.
AND I ALSO WANNA REITERATE, UH, THE EXECUTIVE'S COMMENTS.
THE EXTENSION STAFF HERE LED BY CINDY HAS BEEN ABSOLUTELY PHENOMENAL TO WORK WITH.
AND THEY'VE BEEN PHENOMENAL PEOPLE HERE.
AND I THINK THIS IS ONE OF THE THINGS WE, WE STRESS IN THE TASK FORCE MEETINGS, THAT THE CHANGES THAT WERE RECOMMENDED IN NO WAY REFLECT ANYTHING ON THE PERFORMANCE OF THE EXTENSION STAFF.
UH, SOME OF WHOM HAVE LEFT, UH, SOME OF WHOM ARE STILL WITH US.
AND WE VERY MUCH LOOK FORWARD TO MOVING ONWARD, UH, PERHAPS WITH SOME EXPANSION, THE FOUR H PROJECTS.
UH, BUT WE WANNA MAKE SURE THAT EVERYONE UNDERSTANDS WE'RE COMPLETELY BEHIND AND SUPPORTING FOUR H PROGRAMS. WE'RE NOT DOING ANYTHING WITH THIS, THESE CHANGES TO DEGRADE OR DENIGRATE OR ANYTHING ELSE TO LESSEN THE FOUR H IMPACT IN THE WASHINGTON COUNTY.
THAT'S ALL I HAVE TO SAY, SIR.
AND I WOULD ALSO INVITE THE, UH, UH, THE TASK FORCE MEMBERS IF THEY HAVE ANYTHING TO ADD TO DISCUSSION.
UH, WE, WE WELCOME YOUR INPUT.
THAT IS, UH, THE REASON WHY WE'RE HERE.
UM, ANYBODY ELSE CARE TO SPEAK ON THE TOPIC? I WOULD JUST LIKE TO MAKE A COMMENT ALSO IN SUPPORT AND REFLECT OUR COUNTY EXECUTIVES, UM, THOUGHTS TOO IN THAT LETTER.
AND, YOU KNOW, WE NEED A PROGRAM THAT REFLECTS THE VALUES OF OUR COMMUNITY AND, UM, THE, THE PROGRAM IS STRONG IN, YOU KNOW, LEADERSHIP DEVELOPMENT AND CAREER DEVELOPMENT TOO FOR OUR, UM, YOU KNOW, LOCAL, UM, CHILDREN AS THEY GROW.
IT'S, IT'S EXCELLENT, UM, PROFESSIONAL DEVELOPMENT FOR THEM ALSO.
ANYTHING ELSE QUICK? IT'S, UH, SUPERVISOR TO SPELL IT.
THERE WAS, UM, THERE'S SOME OPTIONS.
SO EITHER CRAFTING YOUR OWN LETTER.
I I DO APPRECIATE THE SENTIMENTS OF OUR COUNTY EXECUTIVE.
UM, DO YOU WANT TO GO WITH HIS LETTER? UM, YOU WANT TO CRAFT YOUR OWN? I JUST MAKE SURE THAT YOU HAD MENTIONED THAT.
SO JUST THAT PART OF IT IS YOU GO WITH HIS LETTER.
UM, I WOULD SUPPORT HIS LETTER.
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ON.IT, IT'S VERY WELL WORDED VERY WELL.
AND, UH, WHATEVER DIRECTION YOU WANTED TO TAKE WITH THAT.
UM, I WOULD LIKE TO ADD THAT HAVING READ THE, UH, DOCUMENT, SURE.
THERE'S A PARTICULAR PARAGRAPH THAT REFERS TO HAVING LOCAL INPUT AND LOCAL CONTROL, UH, AS, AS FAR AS HOW THE MONEY'S BEEN SPENT AND THE POSITIONS ARE UTILIZED.
UM, HOWEVER, IT DOESN'T APPEAR THAT THAT SEEMS TO BE THE CASE WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT FUNDING.
UH, THE POSITIONS THAT WE'RE ASKING FOR, UH, WOULD BE LESS THAN WHAT WE'RE ACTUALLY NOT UTILIZING.
SO THERE'S ACTUALLY A COST SAVINGS, UH, YOU KNOW, I'VE BEEN MADE TO UNDERSTAND THAT COULD BE ACHIEVED HERE AS WELL AS ADDING MORE PROGRAMMING.
UM, NOW RECOGNIZING THAT THERE'S NEW COMMUNITY, UH, COMMITTEE MEMBERS HERE AND NEW CHAIRMAN HERE, AND, AND WE, YOU KNOW, ONLY I THINK, UH, SUPERVISOR MARY HAS BEEN THROUGH THE PROCESS ALONG WITH OUR ESTEEMED GUESTS.
UH, I WOULD PROBABLY THINK IT PRUDENT TO, UH, HAVE JAMIE, UH, WORK WITH THE COUNTY EXECUTIVE AND CRAFT, UH, ANY REVISIONS THAT THEY FEEL NECESSARY TO THIS DOCUMENT THAT ARE DUE BY JUNE 1ST.
UH, SO USE THEIR GUIDANCE, UH, IN THIS MATTER, UM, RECOGNIZING THE TASK FORCE FINE WORK, AS WELL AS, UH, THE OPINIONS EXPRESSED HERE BY THIS COMMITTEE TODAY.
UH, I, I THINK THAT WOULD PROBABLY THE BE BE THE BEST AND MOST PRUDENT RESPONSE AT THIS TIME.
UH, AS I MENTIONED TO MS. LUBECK EARLIER, UH, HAVE THE EXECUTIVE OFFICE STAFF, LOOK, YOU'VE GOT SOME TIGHT FONT CHANGES IN THE LETTER, AND I THINK THOSE NEED TO BE CLARIFIED IF THOSE FONT CHANGES ARE DESIGNED TO HAVE EMPHASIS TO, TO STRESS SOME EMPHASIS ON PARTICULAR SEGMENTS.
UH, BUT I THINK THERE NEEDS TO BE UNIFORMITY OR SOME REASONING FOR THE CHANGES.
IT JUST, IT'S A TECHNICAL MATTER, BUT YET, YET, I DON'T WANT SOMEONE READING THAT TO SAY, WELL, HOW COME THEY CHANGED THE FONT OF THE EMPHASIZING SOMETHING AND THAT IT'S OFTEN USED TO HAVE A TYPE FONT CHANGE FOR EMPHASIS.
UH, OH, SORRY, MR. GO, MR. APOLOGIZE.
HE'S ALSO A MEMBER OF THE TASK FORCE AND, UH, YEAH.
UM, YOU KNOW, THE FIRST THING COMES TO MY MIND IS WHAT IS OUR DESIRED OUTCOME? AND SHOULD WE LEAD WITH THAT IN WHATEVER RESPONSE THAT WE HAVE TO THE POWERS THAT BE? UM, AND HOW MUCH CAN WE INFLUENCE A CHANGE? IT APPEARS LIKELY LITTLE TO NONE, BUT WHAT, RIGHT.
WE'RE TRYING TO GET SOME DESIRED OUTCOME FOR OUR COMMUNITY MEMBERS.
SO HOW DO WE LEAD WITH THAT, THAT, AND WE CAN, YOU KNOW, COMMENT ABOUT THE PARTNERSHIP.
YOU KNOW, IT'S ABOUT COUNTY NEEDS AND HELPING TO ALIGN EXTENSION EDUCATION PROGRAMS, ENSURE PROGRAMS, ADDRESS COUNTY NEEDS, RIGHT? WE CAN CALL THAT OUT.
IT'S RIGHT THERE IN THEIR DOCUMENT.
SO HOW DO WE GET THEM TO REALIZE THAT THEY'RE NOT SERVING OUR NEEDS? BECAUSE IF WE JUST TELL 'EM, THEY'RE GONNA BE LIKE, YEAH, GO POUND SAND.
BUT HOW DO WE GET THEM TO CHANGE THEIR, UH, BELIEF SYSTEM THAT WILL THEN SUPPORT OUR, OUR OUR NEEDS? AND I, I DON'T KNOW THE BEST ANSWER TO THAT OTHER THAN, YOU KNOW, THAT THE, THE, THE LETTER AND THE IMPLORING, UM, I DON'T KNOW LEGALLY IF WE HAVE ANY.
I, I SEE A, UH, A COUNTY ATTORNEY, UH, UH, HAD LEFT.
BUT YOU KNOW, WE LOOK AT OUR CON OUR CONTRACT, OUR CONTRACT EVEN HAS SOME LEGAL EASE IN THERE.
SO, YOU KNOW, IF IT COMES TO, YOU KNOW, PRESSING THEM, IS THAT AN OPTION THAT THE COUNTY WANTS TO CONSIDER? THAT MAY BE A SECOND OR THIRD, UH, LEVEL DOWN THE LINE.
BUT I WOULD ARGUE THAT WE SHOULD EXPLORE ALL THOSE OPTIONS.
MR. CHAIR, IF I MAY, THE CHAIR RECOGNIZES CHAIR.
UM, I'VE KIND OF BEEN IN THE BACKGROUND OF THIS TOO WITH MS. LUDOVIC.
AND, UH, THE CRUX OF THE MATTER IS THEY SAY THEY'RE GONNA RESPOND TO LOCAL NEEDS, BUT THEY DON'T, THEIR CONTRACT SAYS THEY'RE GONNA MEET WITH US EVERY YEAR TO ASSESS THE NEEDS.
SO, UM, SHE'S BEEN ASKED, JAMIE HAS BEEN ASKED TO, UH, PROVIDE INPUT TO THEM ON THEIR GUIDANCE DOCUMENT AND
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TYPICAL STATE FORM THEY GAVE US TWO WEEKS, YOU KNOW, SO THEY DON'T WANT COMMENTS, BUT THEY'RE GONNA GET COMMENTS FROM MS. LUDOVIC, UM, AND ALL OF US, I GUESS.UM, AND THE OTHER THING IS, IN A PERFECT WORLD, WHAT YOU SAID IS RIGHT.
WE, WE HAVE A CONTRACT EVERY YEAR OR TWO AND THE CONTRACT COVERS THIS, THIS, AND THIS.
WELL, THEY'RE TECHNICALLY IN BREACH OF THEIR CONTRACT 'CAUSE THEY'RE NOT FOLLOWING WHAT THEY SAID THEY'RE GONNA DO.
BUT THE OTHER SIDE OF THAT IS THAT THAT MONEY'S ALREADY GONE TO THE STATE.
AND IF YOU THINK YOU'RE GETTING MONEY BACK FROM THE STATE, GOOD LUCK
SO, BUT I DO SUPPORT ACTIONS ON THIS.
I'M JUST AN OLD SCHOOL KIND OF GUY.
IF YOU TELL ME, UH, YOU'RE GONNA DO SOMETHING, I HOLD YOU TO THAT.
AND, UH, IF YOU DON'T DO IT, I WILL CERTAINLY QUESTION IT AND I WILL PUT IT RIGHT BACK ON YOU.
I WILL, YOU KNOW, DO WHAT IT TAKES TO KEEP YOU IN LINE WITH THE CONTRACT.
AND I'M SURE WE ALL ARE PEOPLE OF OUR WORD ON THIS COMMITTEE.
SO I THINK MR. GALLS RAISED SOME GREAT POINTS.
UM, MR. SCHLEI ALSO AS WELL, UH, THIS IS A MATTER OF A CONTRACT, JAMIE, AND, UH, WE, WE EXPECT THE UW TO HONOR WHAT THEY SAY IS IN THIS DOCUMENT.
AND, UH, I THINK THAT THAT'S THE DISCUSSION GOING FORWARD.
UH, THE POINT OF EMPHASIS IS LOCAL CONTROL, UH, AND WORKING WITH THE LOCAL, UH, COMMITTEES AND, AND DETER BEST DETERMINING WHAT, HOW THE DOLLARS ARE SPENT AND, AND WHERE THEY GET THE MA MOST PUSH.
UM, MS. LUDWIG, IS IT, UH, ONE OF THE THINGS WE'RE TRYING TO DO IS A A FOUR H WAS THAT WHAT WE WERE LOOKING TO GET WAS A FOUR H, UH, PERSON, RIGHT? SO, AND WE'RE, AGAIN, THIS IS THE CON THE CONVERSATION FOR WE'RE HOPING TO BRING TO YOU.
BUT THE TASK FORCE, AND I THINK SUPERVISOR GATS, I, EVERYBODY WAS REALLY AT THE CORE OF THIS, BUT WAS, WAS BIG ON THESE STEM BASED, UM, KIND OF POST-SECONDARY CLUBS THAT ARE MORE PROJECT ORIENTED AND LOOKING AT PARTNERING WITH THE NEW AUTOMATION AND TECHNOLOGY LABS AND, UM, THE K THROUGH 12 THROUGHOUT, TO MAKE SURE WE'RE PUTTING THOSE TYPES OF CLUBS.
UM, YOU KNOW, THE, IT'S A MODEL THAT EXISTS IN OTHER STATES.
IT EXISTS, UM, SOME OTHER PLACES.
UM, IT'S KIND OF THE, THE FUTURE OF WHERE FOUR H IS GOING.
AND WE HAVE THE RESOURCES AND UW EXTENSION HAS THE RESOURCES.
UM, THREE, MY UNDERSTANDING FROM CINDY THREE GREAT, UM, FOUR H LEADERS IN THAT INSTITUTE, UM, WILLING TO HELP US REALLY GET OFF THE GROUND AND HAVE THOSE CONVERSATIONS, WHICH IS WHAT WE'RE WORKING ON.
UM, THE ISSUE IS THAT RIGHT NOW WE HAVE ANOTHER, UM, EDUCATOR IN THAT INSTITUTE, IN, IN THE POSITIVE YOUTH DEVELOPMENT INSTITUTE, CO INSTITUTE, CO-FUNDED WITH FOND DULAC, AS WELL AS WE HAVE THE VACANCY EDUCATORS.
AND SO THE QUESTION WAS POSED OF ARE WE ABLE TO SHIFT THE EDUCATOR? ARE WE ABLE TO REFOCUS AND RE UM, KIND OF, YOU KNOW, START NEW WITH THE DIRECTION WE WANNA GO WITH, UM, STEM AND POST-SECONDARY CLUBS AND REALLY ENHANCING THE FOUR H PROGRAM, WHICH I THINK WAS ONE OF THE, UM, INTENTS OF THE GROUP THAT, THAT TALKED AND THOSE PARTNERSHIPS AND BUILDING THOSE OUT WITH FAIR PARK AND THOSE THINGS.
SO, UM, THE ANSWER CAME BACK THAT WE WOULD, WE WOULD BE ON THE RESPONSIBLE FOR FULLY FUNDING THE SECONDARY, THE SECOND EDUCATOR, WHICH WOULD BE ABOUT A HUN, ROUGHLY, WE'RE STILL WORKING THROUGH THESE NUMBERS, A HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS, WHEREAS RIGHT NOW WE CO-FUND AN EDUCATOR WITH A COST OF 46,000 WITH ANOTHER DIRECTION.
SO THE ISSUE IS NOT THE ABIL THE WILLINGNESS OF THEM TO WORK WITH US.
THE ISSUE IS NOT THE SKILLSET OR THE, UM, APPETITE FOR THIS DIRECTION.
I THINK THAT IT'S SOMETHING THAT THE COMMUNITY THEY HEAR, UM, THE ISSUE IS REALLY COMING DOWN TO, AND THE EMAIL FROM CINDY SARKA IS IN YOUR PACKET.
I DON'T KNOW IF YOU GUYS READ THAT, WHERE SHE VERY CLEARLY ARTICULATES THAT THAT'S NOT WHAT THE STATE SAYS YOU CAN DO.
SO YOU CAN'T, UM, AND WE WILL BE FO, YOU KNOW, YOU CAN'T JUST TAKE MONEY FROM ONE PROGRAM TO ANOTHER AT THE LOCAL LEVEL.
UM, AND SO THE, AGAIN, THE POINT BEING THAT THERE, THAT THE DOCUMENT STATING THESE, WE WORK TOGETHER ON LOCAL EDUCATIONAL PRIORITIES AND WE DO THESE THINGS.
UM, WE'RE, WHICH WE'RE STILL MOVING FORWARD WITH OUR PROGRAM, WE'RE STILL GOING TO BRING FORWARD A PROPOSAL TO FUND AN ENHANCED FOUR H PROGRAM, UM, HOPEFULLY NEXT MONTH, UM, OR MAYBE THE FOLLOWING MONTH DEPENDING ON HOW THE CONVERSATIONS GO.
UM, BUT IT IS GOING TO BE, YOU KNOW, MOVING SOME MORE OF THAT VACANCY FUNDING THAN
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POTENTIALLY WHAT WE'RE GIVING UP, IF THAT MAKES SENSE.UM, AND IT'S MORE EXPENSIVE THAN WHAT WE'RE CURRENTLY DOING BECAUSE THEY WILL ONLY CO-FUND ONE, FOUR H EDUCATOR PER COUNTY, AND THEY ARE WORRIED ABOUT CONSEQUENCES IF THEY MAKE CHANGES IN ONE COUNTY.
AND YET THEY TALK ABOUT LOCAL INPUT, LOCAL CONTROLLER GUIDANCE, CLEARLY IN THE DOCUMENTS LIKE, RIGHT.
SO AGAIN, IT'S THE CONVERSATIONS UP HERE, RIGHT, THAT FEED HOW THAT FUNDING.
AND SO THAT IS, IT'S A VERY HIGH LEVEL CONVERSATION, WHICH IS WHY I BELIEVE THE COUNTY EXECUTIVE, UM, WHEN IN HIS DISCUSSION WITH ME SAID THAT HE PREFERRED TO KEEP HIS COMMENTS VERY HIGH LEVEL, RIGHT? BECAUSE THEY ARE A LOT IN THE DOCUMENT IS VERY PROCEDURAL AND TO BE DIRECT.
WE DON'T HAVE ANY ISSUES WITH THE PROCEDURE AND THE WAY THAT THE LOCAL EXTENSION EDUCATORS ARE WORKING IN OUR COUNTY.
THEY'VE BEEN REALLY GREAT TO WORK WITH.
AND AGAIN, TO REITERATE WHAT YOU'VE ALL ALREADY SAID, UM, ARE GREAT, GREAT PEOPLE.
VERY SKILLED, VERY INTELLIGENT, VERY COMPETENT, UM, EASY TO WORK WITH.
UH, WOULD ANYBODY ON THE COMMITTEE LIKE TO ADD ANYTHING MORE TO THIS DISCUSSION? I'LL JUST, I'LL JUST ADD TO IT AS A NEW COMMITTEE MEMBER.
UM, I STILL, I THINK I UNDERSTAND MOST OF THIS CONVERSATION, BUT I OBVIOUSLY STILL HAVE SOME, SOME BACKGROUND RESEARCH AND DIGGING TO GET INTO AND STUFF.
UM, I WOULD ASK, UH, WOULD THE, ESPECIALLY THE NEW COMMITTEE MEMBERS BE ABLE TO GET LIKE COPIES OF THE, THE CONTRACT? YES, I WOULD TO WITH UW WITH THE UW EXTENSION.
UM, AND IF THERE'S ANY, OR DIRECT US TO THE LOCATION OF THE, UH, THE COMMITTEE THAT WE'VE TASKED WITH US, UH, ANY OF THEIR BACKGROUND MINUTES OR INFORMATION THAT THEY'VE, THAT THEY'VE GONE THROUGH, JUST SO WE CAN KIND OF DIG INTO SOME OF THE DETAILS OF IT.
AND IN THE TASK FORCE LETTER THAT IS IN THE PACKET FROM SUPERVISOR MARY.
THE DATES WHERE IT SAYS FEBRUARY 14TH, 2024.
FEBRUARY 29TH, 2024 THAT ARE UNDERLINED, I WILL RESEND THIS LETTER.
THOSE ARE CLICKABLE LINKS TO THE PACKETS AND ALL OF THAT, THE CONTRACTS, THE, THE MINUTES, THE BACKGROUND ON EVERY PROGRAM IS IN THE PACKETS FOR THOSE MEETINGS.
MR. CHAIRMAN, IF I COULD JUST ADD AN ASIDE TO THIS DISCUSSION.
UH, THIS IS A TOPIC THAT THE WISCONSIN COUNTY'S ASSOCIATION HAS TAKEN ON, UH, BUT THEY'RE MOVING VERY, VERY SLOWLY ON IT IN TERMS OF PROVIDING GUIDANCE AND COUNTY SUGGESTIONS TO THE UNIVERSITY EXTENSION SYSTEM ON WHAT KIND OF CHANGES SHOULD BE DONE.
UH, AND SO ON THE LAST TIME THAT GROUP AND I SERVE ON THAT COMMITTEE, LAST TIME THEY HAD A MEETING WAS LAST SEPTEMBER.
AND AT THAT POINT IN TIME, THEY WERE SENDING A LETTER WITH DOCUMENTATION TO MR. MARTIN, THE DEAN.
UH, AND THEY'RE WAITING AT THIS POINT IN TIME TO GET A REPLY BACK FROM HIM.
AND SO THIS IS A SITUATION THAT HAS JUST DRAGGED ITSELF ON AND ON AND ON AT THE STATE LEVEL, WHAT THEY'RE GONNA COME DOWN TO IN TERMS OF FINAL DECISIONS, DISCUSSIONS.
UH, BUT IT COULD BE A LONG TIME IN COMING AT THIS RATE.
AND I THINK AT SOME POINT IN TIME, SOME MONTHS AGO, WE DECIDED WE WERE NOT GONNA TRY TO WAIT TO SEE WHAT THE COUNTY'S ASSOCIATION CAME THROUGH WITH RECOMMENDATIONS WE'RE MOVING FORWARD AND WE HAVE SHARED WITH THEM, UH, THE COUNTY'S ASSOCIATION THROUGH THEIR, THEIR STAFF CORRESPONDENCE THAT HAS GONE THROUGH IN MY LETTER TO THE, TO THE SUPERVISORS AND TO THE GENERAL PUBLIC, UH, THE NEWS RELEASE THAT CAME OUT FROM, UM, EXECUTIVE SHOWMAN TWO OR THREE WEEKS AGO.
NOW, YOU KNOW THAT WITH THAT SAME KIND OF TIMING, BUT I HAVE A FEELING WHAT YOU'RE GOING TO SEE IS YOU'RE GOING TO SEE SOME, EITHER THEY'RE GONNA CONTINUE JUST DOING AS, AS IS OR THERE ARE WILL BE SOME CHANGES RECOMMENDED BY THE WCA FOR SOME EXTENSION PROGRAMMING.
NOW, WHETHER OR NOT THE ACTIVITIES HERE AT WASHINGTON COUNTY WILL DRIVE ANY OF THAT, I HAVE NO IDEA.
BUT THEY'RE MOVING EXCEPTIONALLY SLOWLY ON THIS THING.
UH, I JUST THOUGHT YOU SHOULD BE AWARE IF YOU SEE SOMETHING COME DOWN FROM WCA, UH, THAT YOU KNOW THAT THIS HAS BEEN GOING ON FOR A LONG TIME AND THEY'RE JUST VERY SLOW IN COMING TO ANY KIND OF DECISIONS OR EVEN HAVING DISCUSSIONS AND MEETINGS REGARDING THIS.
THE LAST TIME WE HAD A MEETING WAS NINE MONTHS AGO.
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THANK YOU, SIR.MS. LICK, DO YOU THINK YOU HAVE PRETTY MUCH ALL YOU NEED TO, UH, TAKE CARE OF THIS, UH, DOCUMENT AND REVISIONS AND ANYTHING, ANYTHING ELSE YOU WANT TO ASK FOR THIS COMMITTEE? YEAH, I THINK WHAT I'M HEARING, AND I SEE THAT, UH, MIKE STEPPED OUT, BUT I THINK WHAT WOULD BE HELPFUL IS POTENTIALLY A MOTION FROM THIS GROUP.
UM, AND THEN, AND THEN WE CAN PAIR THE SUMMARY OF THAT MOTION WITH POTENTIALLY SOME OF THE REMARKS THAT THE VARIOUS MEMBERS HAVE MADE AND YOURSELF CHAIR, AND ADD THAT TO, YOU KNOW, WHAT WE SEND IN ADDITION TO THE, UH, TASK FORCE LETTER THAT WE ALREADY HAVE FROM SUPERVISOR MARY, IF THAT PLEASES THE BOARD.
BUT I THINK, UM, IF YOU'RE, IF YOU WOULD MAKE A MOTION, I THINK IT WOULD BE APPROPRIATE TO DO SO.
I DON'T THINK WE CAN MAKE A MOTION.
I'M NOT, UH, SURE THAT WE CAN ACTUALLY MAKE A MOTION BECAUSE THIS IS LISTED AS A DISCUSSION ITEM AND NOT AN ACTION ITEM OR POSSIBLE ACTION ACTION ORION OR POSSIBLE, YEAH.
DISCUSSION OR POSSIBLE ACTION.
AND WE DO HAVE, UH, THE OPPORTUNITY FOR A MOTION THAT IS GOOD.
UM, SO I'LL LEAVE THAT TO THE COMMITTEE, ACCEPT A MOTION, UH, AS FAR AS I'D LIKE TO PROCEED, DO WE NEED TO RESPOND NOW? WELL, IT IS DUE BY JUNE 1ST, SO I DOESN'T GIVE US A WHOLE LOT OF TIME.
IF THE EXECUTIVE HAS RESPONDED BY JUNE 1ST, I THINK THIS COMMITTEE COULD RESPOND AT A LATER DATE, OR I FEEL WITH THE COMMITTEE CHANGEOVER, I'M NOT READY TO ENDORSE.
UH, I, I WOULD LIKE TO DIG INTO THIS A LITTLE BIT MORE AND FEEL BETTER ABOUT MAKING A VOTE ON IT.
OTHERWISE, I WOULD HAVE HONESTLY HAVE TO ABSTAIN AT THIS POINT.
AND ALSO NOTE THAT IN, BECAUSE WE'LL BE BACK IN JUNE ON THIS TOPIC SORT OF, RIGHT? WE'RE GOING TO BE BUILDING, I THINK THE PROGRAMMING HERE AND THERE'LL BE THE, THE CONTINUED OPPORTUNITY FOR THIS COMMITTEE AT ANY POINT TO SHARE COMMENTS OR THOUGHTS, RIGHT.
SO I DO THINK THAT'S A REALLY GOOD POINT.
UM, I JUST WANTED TO ADD THAT EMPHASIS THAT THAT'S CHAIR, UH, CHAIR RECOGNIZES SUPERVISOR GALL.
SO I, I, I THINK WHAT I HEARD, UH, SUPERVISOR KREBS SAY IS THERE'S TWO, TWO SEPARATE ITEMS GOING ON HERE.
ONE IS A RESPONSE TO, UM, THE JUNE 1ST RECOMMENDATIONS FOR ANY SUGGESTIONS AND A GUIDANCE, BUT THEN ALSO WHAT THE COMMITTEE AND WHAT THE COUNTY MAY WANT TO PROPOSE AS ITS OWN SOLUTION, SUCH AS THE COMMITTEE MAY SAY, YES, WE BELIEVE THIS POSITION, UH, IS IMPORTANT.
UH, IT SOUNDS LIKE IT WOULD BE OUR FULL FUNDING.
SO IT'S DO OUR OUR MATH AND DETERMINE DOES THE FULL COUNTY BOARD WANT TO APPROVE CREATING A-A-F-T-E POSITION THAT WOULD SUPPORT THE, THE NEEDS THAT WERE, UH, JUST MENTIONED.
AND THEN THAT YOU GUYS WOULD DISCUSS THAT AND THAT WOULD GO TO THE FULL BOARD FOR, FOR APPROVAL.
SO AT LEAST I, AGAIN, I THINK IT'S SEPARATING TWO PIECES AND YOU KNOW, IF, IF YOU ALL NEED MORE TIME TO REVIEW AND MAKE A RECOMMENDATION OF FULL BOARD.
ONE OTHER THING TOO IS BESIDES JUST OUR RESPONSE, DEPENDING ON, DEPENDING ON OUR DESIRED OUTCOME, I THINK WE SHOULD BE PRESSING THIS HARDER THAN JUST A, A RESPONSE LETTER.
UM, PRESSURING THE COUNTY'S ASSOCIATION TO ACT ACTUALLY MAKE THIS A PRIORITY.
TRY TRY TO SPUR A LARGER DISCUSSION HERE.
OTHERWISE, IT'S THE, THE UW SYSTEM IS IN THE DRIVER'S SEAT, AND WHAT PRESSURE DO THEY HAVE AT THIS POINT TO CHANGE THEIR WAYS OR ONE COUNTY, YES, WE CAN, WE AFFECT WHAT HAPPENS HERE, BUT IF THERE'S 72 COUNTIES ON BOARD, THEN MAYBE THE DEAN WOULD FEEL THE RESPONSE TO FEEL THE PRESSURE TO RESPOND.
SO A RESPONSE LETTER NOW IS PROBABLY APPROPRIATE, BUT THERE SHOULD BE START, IT'S A START, BUT THERE SHOULD BE MORE.
UM, SO IS THIS KIND OF A TWO PART THING, MS. LU? ONE IS THE THIS DOCUMENT, UH, AND THEN TWO IS OUR, UH, REQUESTS OR, OR ACTIONS TO, TO CHANGE WHAT'S COMING BEFORE US NEXT COMMITTEE, RIGHT? SO I SEE THIS AS UW EXTENSION, PUT OUT THE GUIDANCE DOCUMENT TO ALL 72 COUNTIES ASKING FOR FEEDBACK FROM ALL
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72 COUNTIES, PROBABLY COULD BE RELATED TO SOME OF THE WORK THEY'RE DOING TO REVISE IT WITH WCA, ET CETERA.SO WE WANNA MAKE SURE WE DON'T LET IT PASS, RIGHT? SO THEY SAY, WELL, WE DIDN'T HEAR FROM WASHINGTON COUNTY, RIGHT? WELL WAIT, NO, YOU HEARD FROM US, RIGHT? WE SENT A RESPONSE, YOU KNEW THAT WE HAD CONCERNS ABOUT SOME OF THE THINGS THAT WERE MISSING.
AND AT A HIGH LEVEL ARE MOVING FORWARD.
DOES THE COUNTY'S EXECUTIVE'S RESPONSE SATISFY THAT? IT IT DOES.
AND I THINK THAT THAT'S WHY THAT IS, THAT ISSUE IS, TO YOUR POINT, SUPERVISOR KREBS A FAIRLY LARGE, I'M GONNA SAY STATEWIDE COUNTYWIDE ISSUE ABOUT LOCAL PRIORITIES AND FUNDING WITH UW EXTENSION PAUSE, WE HAVE A LOCAL CONVERSATION HAPPENING WHERE WE ARE, UM, CURRENTLY WORKING ON SHAPING UW EXTENSION FOR WASHINGTON COUNTY.
WE ARE WORKING ON SOME NEW DIRECTIONS, SOME ENHANCEMENTS TO WHERE WE'RE HEADED.
AND THAT CONVERSATION IS GOING TO COME BEFORE YOU TO SUPER G SUPERVISOR GALAXY'S POINT.
UM, AND THIS COMMITTEE WILL NEED TO MAKE A RECOMMENDATION TO THE COUNTY BOARD FOR FUNDING BECAUSE THAT BUDGET IS CURRENTLY IN THE COUNTY BOARD AND JUST ABOUT HOW WE MOVE FORWARD WITH OUR 1 36 CONTRACT AND THE STATE LOCALLY WITHIN, CURRENTLY WITHIN THE PARAMETERS THAT WE KNOW, RIGHT? SO ONE DISCUSSION IS ABOUT CAN WE INFLUENCE CHANGING THE PARAMETERS? AND ANOTHER DISCUSSION IS WHAT ARE WE GOING TO DO WITHIN OUR PARAMETERS AND OR WITHIN OUR CURRENT CONTRACT, DO WE PUSH THAT CONTRACT TO DO WE, YOU KNOW, HOW DO WE MOVE FORWARD? SO TODAY, THIS IS KIND OF, YOU KNOW, WE WANTED TO MAKE SURE YOU WERE AWARE THAT WE ARE, WE ARE CHALLENGING THE PARAMETERS OF THAT, WELL YOU SAID LOCAL PRIORITIES, BUT THE FUNDING, THE FUNDING'S LOCKED DOWN INTO THE INSTITUTES, UM, YOU KNOW, REGARDLESS OF WHICH COUNTY YOU SIT IN, IN THE STATE, AND, AND THEY WILL TAKE THE MONEY.
SO IF WE SAY, AND, AND IT'S RIGHT IN CINDY'S EMAIL THAT WE DON'T, WE DON'T LOCALLY WE'RE NOT INTERESTED IN DOING X, THEY WILL TAKE THAT MONEY AND THEY WILL GO PUT IT INTO THAT PROGRAM IN SOME OTHER COUNTY AND MILWAUKEE COUNTY IN MADISON COUNTY, SOME OTHER COUNTY THAT WANTS THAT PROGRAMMING ON, IN THIS CASE, YOU KNOW, I ENCOURAGE YOU TO READ THE PACKET OF THOSE PROGRAMS, RIGHT? BECAUSE THEY NAME THEIR INSTITUTE PRIORITIES PROMOTING FATHERHOOD, UM, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE DOING THINGS WITH THE COURT SYSTEM, YOU KNOW, SO THEY'RE DRIVING THAT, THE, THOSE THINGS RIGHT IN THOSE AREAS.
SO I DUNNO IF THAT HELPS, BUT I THINK THAT THE NEXT DISCUSSION IS REALLY GONNA BE MORE FOCUSED, LESS ON THE, THIS IS REALLY MORE, YOU KNOW, LAW CHANGING, TRANSFERRING, COMMENTING TO WCA, COMMENTING BACK TO UW EXTENSION ON THIS GUIDANCE DOCUMENT VERSUS THE NEXT CONVERSATION, WHICH IS GONNA BE ABOUT A PREMIER WASHINGTON COUNTY FOUR H PROGRAM POST-SECONDARY PATHWAYS.
AND, YOU KNOW, COLLABORATIVELY HOW WE WANNA BUILD OUR RESOURCES IN WASHINGTON COUNTY IS WITH MY LIMITED KNOWLEDGE OF, OF THE SUBJECT AS A TOTAL, I WOULD, I DON'T SEE ANYTHING WRONG OR OUT OF LINE WITH THE COUNTY EXECUTIVE'S RESPONSE.
SO I WOULD BE FINE WITH THAT, WITH MY KNOWLEDGE TODAY.
UM, GOING ALONG WITH THAT, THE CONVERSATION ABOUT THE LOCAL PROGRAMMING, IS IT, AND THIS IS WHERE, FORGIVE ME IF I SOUND IGNORANT.
IS THIS A CONVERSATION OF BASICALLY DOING THE PROGRAMMING WITHOUT THE UW SYSTEM, BASICALLY DOING IT OURSELF BECAUSE THEY'RE NOT ABLE TO FULFILL IT? UM, THAT'S THE DIRECTION THAT I AM.
WE ARE THE COUNTY EXECUTIVE IS GOING, IS THAT WE WOULD, WE, WE, WE CANNOT QUOTE DO IT OURSELF BECAUSE THE FOUR H CLUBS IS A WISCONSIN AND NATIONAL PROGRAM, RIGHT? AND THERE ARE, AND I'M NOT THE TECHNICAL EXPERT ON FOUR H, BUT THERE ARE REASONS AND BENEFITS THAT YOU NEED TO BE AFFILIATED WITH THAT PROGRAM, RIGHT? FOR RESOURCES FOR VARIOUS THINGS THAT IT OFFERS AS WE BUILD OUT KIND OF WHAT I'M GONNA CALL A NEW INNOVATIVE FOUR H, UM, DIRECTION THAT YOU CAN ONLY DO WITH THE NAME FOUR H, RIGHT? WE CAN'T HIRE A FOUR H PERSON AND CALL IT THAT AND THINK WE CAN RUN A FOUR H PROGRAM ON OUR OWN.
UM, BUT WE WOULD BE FUNDING THAT EDUCATOR ON OUR OWN THROUGH, THROUGH UW EXTENSION.
UM, AND THEN WE HAVE OTHER VACANCIES RIGHT NOW, YOU KNOW, SO THE, THAT WHOLE BUDGET IN ITS ENTIRETY IS, IS THE CONVERSATION.
SO THERE'S A CONTRACT WITH THE, WITH THE UW EXTENSION, AND IT'S NOT A QUESTION OF DO WILL THERE BE ANOTHER
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CONTRACT? IT, WE WOULD HAVE TO HAVE ANOTHER CONTRACT AFTER THAT EXPIRATION.IF WE WANT TO CONTINUE WITH, WE PLAN ON CONTINUING THE RELATIONSHIP WITH UW EXTENSION FOR, AND I THINK IT'S IN THIS LETTER A COUPLE TIMES FOR FOUR H AND FOR AGRICULTURE, AND THEN POTENTIALLY SOME OF THESE OTHER THINGS.
IF WE'RE HEARING FROM THE COMMUNITY THAT, YOU KNOW, THERE ARE GAPS OR, YOU KNOW, OTHER THINGS UW IS OPEN TO, IF AT ANY POINT WE WOULD DECIDE, YOU KNOW, WE REALLY ACTUALLY WANNA SHARE A ONE OF THESE OTHER EDUCATORS, WE COULD GO BACK.
UM, BUT AT THIS POINT WE'RE, WE'RE NOT TALKING ABOUT ENDING OUR RELATIONSHIP WITH UW EXTENSION, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT CHANGING WHAT WE'RE FUNDING HERE.
SO IS THE UW EXTENSION OPEN TO AMENDING THE EXISTING CONTRACT OR, OR A CONTRACT RENEWAL? YES.
HOW MUCH FLEXIBILITY IS THERE TO CUSTOMIZE IT? OR IS IT A PRETTY CONTRACT BOILERPLATE BECAUSE IT'S A STATE TYPE? SO THAT, THAT'S KINDA WHAT THE, IF YOU GO BACK IN AND YOU READ THE EMAILS BETWEEN CINDY AND I, THE, WE CAN SAY WE DON'T WANT AN EDUCATOR AND WE DON'T WANNA SHARE IN THE FUNDING.
THEY ONLY HAVE SO MUCH FUNDING IN EACH AREA.
SO WE'RE, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT EX ENHANCING THE FOUR H AREA THAT'S IN A SEPARATE PROGRAM.
AND SO THEY WON'T LET US TAKE SAVINGS FROM ONE PROGRAM AND MOVE IT TO ANOTHER PROGRAM.
AND THAT'S REALLY, I THINK WHERE THE CRUX OF THIS IS.
IT'S EITHER YOU, DO YOU HAVE THIS EDUCATOR SERVING THESE NEEDS OR NOTHING.
CALUMET HAS ALREADY GONE DOWN THIS PATH.
THEY ONLY HAVE A FOUR H UM, EDUCATOR REMAINING, I BELIEVE FROM THE TASK FORCE.
UM, SO OTHER COUNTIES HAVE ALREADY, YOU KNOW, ELIMINATED PROGRAMMING THAT THEY DO NOT WANT.
AND THAT'S PROBABLY A DISCUSSION FOR ANOTHER DAY BECAUSE I'M SURE WE'LL BE ADDRESSING THAT SOON WHEN WE REDRAFT THAT PROGRAM.
UM, ARE THE, THE, UH, EXECUTIVES LETTER, KIND OF THROWING THIS OUT THERE, UH, THE COMMITTEE'S RESPONSE, WOULD YOU BE INTERESTED IN ADDING THE COMMITTEE TO THAT LETTER? THAT'S KIND WITH OUR EXECUTIVE AND, UH, AND HIS DIRECTION ON THIS ITEM? I WOULD SUPPORT IT.
I DON'T KNOW THAT IT ADDS ANYTHING, BUT SURE.
IF THAT'S THE, WHAT THE GROUP WANTS TO DO, YES.
IT, IT SEEMS TO ADD STRENGTH OR VALUE, I THINK SO TOO.
SO I GUESS, UH, MS. LUDWIG, WHAT WE, AS THE COMMITTEE WOULD WANT TO ASK OF THE EXECUTIVE IS IF WE MAY BE SIGNED ON TO AS LETTER IS A SHOW OF SUPPORT AND SOLIDARITY WITH HIS IDEAS AND HIS VISION, UH, FOR UW EXTENSION, UH, GOING FORWARD.
AND THAT'S CLEAR DIRECTION AND WE CAN, I CAN HAVE, YOU CAN HAVE THAT, WE CAN HAVE THAT CONVERSATION WITH HIM AND IF HE'S AMENABLE TO THAT, OTHERWISE WE CAN, GENERALLY SPEAKING, IT SOUNDS LIKE THERE'S SUPPORT OF THAT LETTER AND WE CAN FIGURE OUT HOW TO GET THAT ARTICULATED.
OR IF NOT, YOU COULD PERHAPS REDRAFT THE LETTER OR US, UH, INDICATING OUR SUPPORT FOR THE EXECUTIVE'S POSITION ON THIS MATTER.
SO I WOULD THINK THAT WOULD BE PROVEN AND SEEING WE'RE ALL IN AGREEMENT, UH, IF IT GOES THAT DIRECTION, WE CAN DRAFT IT AND WE CAN, UH, I CAN SIGN OFF ON IT AND THERE YOU GO.
SO, UM, ONE OF THOSE TWO DIRECTIONS I THINK WOULD BE PROBABLY A GOOD SUMMATION FOR OUR WORDS HERE THIS MORNING.
SO, UH, I GUESS AT THAT POINT, WE'RE PRETTY MUCH DONE WITH THE DISCUSSION HERE AND WE'RE GONNA GO AHEAD AND MOVE ON, UH, WITHOUT ANY OBJECTIONS.
DO WE NEED TO DO, UM, A, A MOTION REGARDING THE LETTER? I THINK WE KIND OF DETERMINE THAT.
A MOTION? ANYTHING FORMAL AT THIS TIME? NO.
ISN'T REALLY NECESSARY, UH, AT THIS TIME.
UM, OKAY, SO MOVING ON, COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT QUARTERLY REPORT.
UM, SO I'M DEB SISKI, THE COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT DIRECTOR.
UM, I'M JUST GONNA GO OVER THE QUARTERLY REPORT, UH, FOR THE COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT DEPARTMENT.
WE'VE BEEN, UH, STILL VERY BUSY, UM,
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AND, UM, DEVELOPING AND IMPLEMENTING NUMEROUS, UM, INNOVATIVE PROGRAMS. UM, AND I'M JUST GONNA HIGHLIGHT A FEW OF THE THINGS, UM, THAT[01:00:01]
WE'VE BEEN WORKING ON.UH, THE FIRST ONE IS, UH, UM, NEXT GENERATION HOUSING.
UM, WE HAVE TWO ACTIVE DEVELOPMENTS GOING ON AT THIS TIME.
THE OAKS OF JACKSON, UM, AND SKYWAY PARK AND HARTFORD.
UM, THAT ENCOMPASSES ABOUT 108, UM, OWNER-OCCUPIED DWELLING UNITS, UH, THAT HAVE BEEN FUNDED.
UM, SO FAR WE HAVE SIX OF THOSE HOMES THAT HAVE CLOSED.
UM, AND HALF OF THOSE HOMES HAVE ALSO USED OUR HEART AND HOMESTEAD PROGRAM.
WE'VE BEEN TRACKING SOME OF THOSE STATISTICS.
UM, FOR EACH ONE OF THOSE HOMES.
UH, THE COUNTY INVESTS, UH, $20,000 EACH.
UM, AND THOSE FUNDS ARE SET IN A LIEN WHICH GETS SATISFIED, UM, AT THE TIME OF CLOSE TO THE FIRST HOME BUYER.
UM, THOSE FUNDS ARE THEN RETURNED TO THE COUNTY, UH, TO BE REINVESTED IN FUTURE NEXT GENERATION HOUSING DEVELOPMENTS.
UM, SO FOR THOSE SIX THAT HAVE CLOSED THE 120,000, UM, IS BEING, UH, DEVELOPED AND PUT BACK INTO THE PROGRAM.
UM, AND, UH, FOR THOSE TWO DEVELOPMENTS, WE ACTUALLY HAVE 31, UH, OWNER OCCUPIED UNITS THAT HAVE EITHER BEEN SOLD, UM, OR UNDER CONTRACT.
UM, AND WITH THE OAKS OF JACKSON, UH, WE ARE WORKING WITH THE BUILDERS ON THE NEXT PHASE, UH, FOR EACH OF THOSE BUILDERS, UH, AT 10 ADDITIONAL HOMES ON EACH OF THOSE PHASES.
THAT'LL BE COMING UP, UM, IN THE FALL.
UM, THE NEXT ONE I WANNA HIGHLIGHT IS THE BROWNFIELDS, UH, SITE REDEVELOPMENT PROGRAM.
UM, WE ARE CONTINUING TO, UH, WORK WITH, UM, LOCAL GOVERNMENTS, UM, IN THE ASSESSMENT AND REDEVELOPMENT OF NUMEROUS SITES.
UH, THE CITY OF HARTFORD, UH, WE'RE WORKING WITH THEM ON THE CENTENNIAL PARK, UH, DOING SUPPLEMENTAL INVESTIGATION ON THE SITE, UH, THE VILLAGE OF SLINGER.
UH, WE HAVE OUR KNIFE OS UH, REDEVELOPMENT, UH, THAT IS COMING ALONG IN THE VILLAGE OF GERMANTOWN.
UH, WE ARE WORKING ON THE KOHLBERG DISTRICT ON DOING SOME PHASE TWO INVESTIGATION.
AND THEN IN THE VILLAGE OF RICHFIELD, UH, WE'RE WORKING WITH STATE GABRIEL ON SOME PHASE ONE, UM, SITE INVESTIGATION WORK.
UH, NEXT I WANNA TALK ABOUT OUR HEART AND HOMESTEAD, UH, PROGRAM.
UH, THIS HAS BEEN, UH, VERY SUCCESSFUL.
UM, AS YOU KNOW, WE LAUNCHED ON APRIL 4TH AND ONE MONTH AND ONE DAY LATER.
UM, WE HAVE DEPLETED THE FUNDS.
UM, THERE'S 105, UM, THAT HAVE BEEN EITHER, UH, CLOSED, AWARDED, OR IN PROGRESS.
UM, SO THAT'S A TOTAL OF, UH, $2.1 MILLION.
UH, SO FAR WE'VE HAD 14 HOME CLOSINGS.
UM, AND OF THOSE HOME CLOSINGS, UM, THOSE INDIVIDUALS HAVE STARTED TO EARN THAT INCENTIVE.
UH, WE HAVE 82 HOURS OF VOLUNTEER WORK THAT HAS BEEN DONE AND OVER $5,000, UM, HAS BEEN DONATED TO OUR PARTICIPATING AGENCIES.
UM, NEXT I WANNA TALK ABOUT, OH YEAH, YOU HAVE A QUESTION.
UM, WITH THE DOWN PAYMENT ASSISTANCE, YOU SAID THERE'S 82 HOURS OF COMMUNITY SERVICE PUT BACK INTO IT SO FAR.
IF ALL THE FUNDS WOULD BE EARNED THROUGH VOLUNTEERISM, WHAT WOULD THE TOTAL AMOUNT OF HOURS BE REQUIRED FOR THAT? UM, I DON'T HAVE A CALCULATOR, BUT YOU CAN CALCULATE, UM, IT'S, UH, 2.1 MILLION, UH, DIVIDED BY, UH, $25.
UM, I WANNA TALK A LITTLE ABOUT, BIT ABOUT OUR, UH, MANAGING GROWTH OF THE COMMUNITY SO IT DOESN'T MANAGE US.
UM, ON YOUR SHEET, YOU'LL NOTICE WE DO HAVE A COUPLE OF THOSE THAT HAVE BEEN A LITTLE OFF TRACK.
UH, THE FIRST ONE IS THE, UH, MULTI-JURISDICTIONAL COMPREHENSIVE PLAN PROGRESS REPORT.
EVERY FIVE YEARS, UH, WE GIVE A PROGRESS REPORT TO THE COUNTY BOARD, UM, DUE TO THE OTHER PRIORITIES OF THE DEPARTMENT, UM, THAT IS BEING PUSHED OFF A LITTLE BIT, UH, A LITTLE BIT FURTHER LATER INTO THE FALL OF THIS YEAR.
UM, AND THE SECOND ONE IS A FARMLAND PRESERVATION PLAN.
UPDATED IS TAKEN A LITTLE BIT LONGER THAN WE HAD FIRST ANTICIPATED TO, UM, DEVELOP THE FARMLAND PRESERVATION AREAS.
SO WE'RE A LITTLE BIT BEHIND ON THAT.
BUT, UH, WE STILL DO ANTICIPATE, UM, THAT THIS PROJECT WILL BE DONE, UM, BY THE END OF THIS YEAR.
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UM, AND THAT IS EVERYTHING FROM MY REPORT.UH, DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? I'D JUST LIKE TO MAKE A COMMENT, MR. CHAIR.
UH, I KNOW, UM, SUPERVISOR PRIDE MOORE WAS WITH ME, WITH, WITH A GROUP OF US OUT AT THE, AT THE JACKSON NEXT GENERATION HOUSING.
THEY HAD AN OPEN, KIND OF AN OPEN HOUSE MM-HMM.
AND THOSE HOUSES ARE VERY, VERY NICE STRUCTURES.
UH, I I, NOT SURE WHAT I WAS EXPECTING, BUT I WAS, I WAS EXPECTING LESS THAN WHAT I SAW THIN WALLS, BUT THAT WAS NOT THE CASE AT ALL.
THEY'RE VERY NICELY CONSTRUCTED.
UH, AND THEY'RE NOT THE BIGGEST HOUSES IN THE WORLD.
THE LOTS ARE CERTAINLY SMALL, BUT IF YOU ALL GO BACK TO THE FIRST HOUSE YOU PROBABLY OWNED, UH, IT WASN'T VERY BIG EITHER.
AND THE LOTS WEREN'T VERY LARGE.
AND, AND THIS IS AGAIN, FOR A BEGINNING HOMEOWNER, I THINK THEY'RE VERY, VERY NICELY DONE.
YEAH, I WOULD AGREE WITH THAT.
UM, BOTH THE HILLCREST AND THE HARBOR HOMES, UM, THOSE HOMES ARE ABSOLUTELY BEAUTIFUL, VERY GOOD QUALITY HOMES.
AND THEY'RE, THEY'RE SMALLER HOMES ON SMALLER LOTS, WHICH IS EXACTLY WHAT OUR GOAL, UM, IS FOR NEXT GENERATION HOUSING.
AT THIS POINT, WE'RE JUST GONNA TAKE A LITTLE SHORT RECESS, ONE MEDICATION IN
IF YOU NEED TO GET UP, USE FAST, THAT FINE OR ANYTHING, THEN THAT WILL BE THE TIME TO DO IT.
WE'LL BE BACK HERE IN JUST ABOUT THREE MINUTES.
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WE WILL CALL THIS MEETING BACK IN THE SESSION.UH, PLEASE WELCOME TO THE STAGE MY DEAR FRIEND
SHE'S HERE WITH HER QUARTERLY REPORT.
ALL RIGHT, THANK YOU FOR HAVING ME THIS MORNING.
SO ON PAGE 40, I BELIEVE IS WHERE THE REGISTER DEEDS SECTION STARTS.
UM, FOR THE BENEFIT OF THE, UH, NEWER, UH, SUPERVISORS, SUPERVISOR, PRIDE MOORE AND SUPERVISOR CONRAD.
UM, JUST A LITTLE BACKGROUND OF WHAT THE, UH, REGISTER OF DEEDS OFFICE IS AND WHAT WE DO.
UM, WE HAVE THIS PHRASE THAT WE HAVE BEEN USING, LIVE OR DIE, SELL OR BUY, YOU NEED THE REGISTER OF DEEDS OFFICE.
SO THAT PRETTY MUCH SUMS IT UP.
WE HAVE ALL THE LAND RECORDS AND THE HISTORY OF WASHINGTON COUNTY, AS WELL AS ALL THE VITAL RECORDS.
AND WE HAVE, UM, IN THE LAST NUMBER OF YEARS HAVE INCORPORATED, UH, DIVORCE CERTIFICATES TO BE ISSUED.
SO, UM, I HAVE A, A SMALL OFFICE.
UM, IT'S, UH, THE REGISTER OF DEEDS, A DEPUTY AND THREE OTHERS.
SO, UM, AGAIN, THIS DEPARTMENT KIND OF FLIES UNDER THE RADAR, BUT IS A VERY IMPORTANT PART OF THE COUNTY'S TAX BASE AND VERY IMPORTANT TO THE CITIZENS OF THE COUNTY, UM, AS WELL AS OUR BUSINESS PARTNERS.
UM, VARIOUS FUNERAL HOMES, VARIOUS TITLE COMPANIES, ATTORNEYS, ET CETERA, ET CETERA.
IT, IT JUST GOES ON AND ON AND ON.
SO, WHERE DO WE GET OUR REVENUE FROM? UM, ALL THE DOCUMENTS THAT ARE RECORDED IN THE REGISTER OF DEEDS OFFICE, ALL THE DEEDS, MORTGAGES, NEXT GEN HOUSING DOCUMENTS, THOSE ALL COME WITH A $30 RECORDING FEE.
UM, AND THE REGISTER OF DEEDS COLLECTS THAT.
UH, THE $15 OF THAT GETS DISTRIBUTED PARTIALLY TO THE COUNTY'S MAIN, UH, LAND RECORDS PROGRAM, AND THEN GETS PUSHED UP TO THE STATE.
UH, $15 OF THAT $30 GOES INTO THE COUNTY'S GENERAL FUND.
UM, ANOTHER PART OF THAT IS, UM, FOR EVERY DEED THAT'S RECORDED, THE VALUE OF THE PROPERTY IS SET AND THERE'S A $3 A THOUSAND TRANSFER FEE THAT IS COLLECTED, UM, AND PAID TO THE REGISTER OF DEEDS.
SO, SAY, FOR INSTANCE, A $300,000 HOME, IF YOU CAN PURCHASE IT, NEXT GEN HOUSING, UM, THERE'S A $900 TRANSFER FEE THAT GOES ALONG WITH THAT $30, UM, RECORDING FEE FOR THE DEED.
UM, OF THAT $900, THE COUNTY GETS TO KEEP 20% OF THAT.
SO THE REST OF IT, THE 80% GETS FILTERED UP TO THE STATE.
SO, JUST A LITTLE TIDBIT OF INFORMATION FOR THAT OF THE VITAL RECORDS, UM, THAT WE ISSUE, UM, BIRTH, DEATH, MARRIAGE AND DIVORCE DECREES.
UM, IT'S A STATEWIDE, UM, ISSUANCE.
SO OUR, THE REGISTER DEEDS ASSOCIATION WORKED VERY HARD OVER THE YEARS WITH STATE VITAL RECORDS TO HAVE A COMPUTER SYSTEM THAT ALL COUNTIES CAN TAP INTO.
SO PLEASE REMEMBER, IT DOES NOT MATTER WHERE YOU WERE BORN, WHERE YOU WERE MARRIED, YOU CAN GO TO ANY COUNTY, WHEREVER YOU ARE LIVING, UM, AND FAMILY, FRIENDS, COWORKERS, BUSINESS PARTNERS, ANYBODY YOU COME ACROSS.
IF THEY TALK ABOUT A VITAL RECORD, JUST HAVE 'EM GO TO THE NEAREST COUNTY.
UM, OF THOSE CERTIFICATES THAT ARE ISSUED, UM,
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WE CAN ACCESS THE STATEWIDE SYSTEM.OUR OUR ASSOCIATION ALSO WORKED VERY HARD ON, UM, WHEN THEY TRIED TO ADJUST THOSE FEES TO MAKE IT PRACTICAL, MAKE 'EM, UM, CONSISTENT ACROSS THE BOARD.
SO IT'S $20 FOR BIRTH, DEATH, MARRIAGE AND DIVORCE DECREE CERTIFICATE OF THAT $20 FOR BIRTH CERTIFICATES.
THE COUNTY GETS TO KEEP FIVE, UM, THE REST GETS PUSHED UP TO THE STATE, UM, FOR THE MARRIAGE AND THE DEATH AND THE DIVORCE.
UM, THE COUNTY GETS TO KEEP SEVEN.
SO, UM, ANY ADDITIONAL COPIES OF THAT INDIVIDUAL RECORD, UM, THEY'RE SOLD THAT $3, UM, EACH, SO THAT $3 THE COUNTY GETS TO KEEP.
SO, AGAIN, THE COUNTY'S, UM, EMPLOYEES ARE PUTTING A LOT OF WORK AND TIME AND EFFORT INTO IT, BUT WE'RE PUSHING A LOT OF THIS MONEY UP TO THE STATE.
SO, UM, ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT OUR OFFICE? UM, WE, IF YOU'VE NEVER BEEN TO OUR OFFICE, IT'S JUST LIKE A BIG, HUGE LIBRARY, WHICH IS NOW CONVERTED INTO A KIND OF A DIGITAL LIBRARY.
WE HAVE BOOKS GOING BACK TO THE 1830S, UM, WHICH WE, UM, DIGITIZED.
AND WE DO HAVE A SYSTEM THAT'S AVAILABLE ONLINE, UM, 24 7 FOR ANYONE, UH, INDIVIDUALS, GENEALOGISTS, UM, BUSINESS PARTNERS, ATTORNEYS, UM, CITIZENS.
UM, YOU CAN GO ON AND SEARCH OUR RECORDS.
UM, IF YOU DOWNLOAD AND PRINT A COPY, UM, UM, SINCE 1967, THERE'S BEEN A STATUTE OUT THERE TO HELP US MAINTAIN ALL THIS STUFF.
IT'S $2 FOR THE FIRST PAGE, A DOLLAR FOR EACH ADDITIONAL PAGE OF A RECORDED DOCUMENT.
SO ANY, TRYING TO THINK OF ANYTHING ELSE THAT WE DO.
AND WE, WE DEAL WITH A LOT OF, UM, INDIVIDUALS COMING IN, ASKING QUESTIONS.
UM, OUR OFFICE IS LOCATED UP ON THE SECOND FLOOR.
UM, RIGHT NEXT TO US IS THE COUNTY TREASURER PROPERTY LISTER, AND DOWN THE HALL IS THE COUNTY CLERK, WHICH THEY PROCESS MARRIAGE CERTIFICATES, PASSPORTS.
SO WE ALL KINDA WORK TOGETHER WITH THE LAND RECORDS, THE TAXES, AND, UM, THE CERTIFICATES.
SO IT'S, IT'S GOOD TO HAVE US ALL IN KIND OF THE SAME AREA.
SO IF YOU ANYONE HAS ANY QUESTIONS, I'D BE HAPPY TO ANSWER THOSE.
OTHERWISE I CAN GO INTO SOME OF THE REPORTS.
UM, I THINK I HAVE THESE IN THE RIGHT ORDER.
UM, LAND NOTIFICATION OR FRAUD ALERT.
UM, THIS IS A HUGE BUZZ WORD THING OUT THERE THAT IF YOU EVER WATCH ANY REGULAR TV, YOU KNOW, BE PREPARED.
SOMEBODY IS GOING TO STEAL YOUR PROPERTY AND GET MORTGAGES AGAINST YOU AND GET ALL THIS MONEY AND COME IN AND, YOU KNOW, CHANGE THE LOCKS ON YOUR HOUSE AND NOW YOU'RE KICKED OUT.
WELL, HONESTLY, IF YOU REALLY THINK ABOUT IT, DOES THAT, IT, IT COULD HAPPEN, YOU KNOW, SCAMMERS ARE GETTING, UM, MORE AND MORE INTELLIGENT AND TRYING TO GET AWAY WITH LOTS OF THINGS.
UM, WHILE WE CAN'T PREVENT ALL OF THAT FROM HAPPENING, WE DO HAVE A FREE, UM, PROGRAM THAT IS AVAILABLE TO CITIZENS BUSINESS PARTNERS.
ANYONE WHO WANTS TO SIGN UP, YOU CAN GO TO OUR WEBSITE, PUT IN YOUR NAME.
UM, WHAT THAT DOES IS IF A DOCUMENT GETS RECORDED IN OUR OFFICE, UM, WITHIN 24 HOURS, YOU WILL RECEIVE AN EMAIL NOTIFICATION THAT SOMETHING WAS RECORDED.
IT GIVES YOU JUST A, A BRIEF EMAIL FROM OUR OFFICE.
UM, LIKE A, IF YOU PAID OFF A MORTGAGE, A SATISFACTION, THE BANK ISSUES A SATISFACTION, THEY RECORD IT IN OUR OFFICE.
AND IF IT'S GOT YOUR NAME ON IT, YOU WILL GET THAT EMAIL NOTIFICATION AS WELL AS THE LINK TO OUR ONLINE PROGRAM.
YOU ARE WELCOME TO CHECK IT OUT IF, IF YOU DID IT, NO HARM, NO FOUL.
BUT IF IT'S SOMETHING THAT THERE'S ACTIVITY WITH REAL ESTATE, PLEASE FEEL FREE TO CALL OUR OFFICE.
UM, OR JUST CREATE A USER ID AND PASSWORD AND CHECK IT OUT.
SO, UM, WE HAVE BEEN TRYING TO INCREASE, UM, THE AWARENESS OF THIS PARTICULAR FREE PROGRAM.
UM, WE'VE DONE IN THE, UM, QUARTERLY COUNTY NEWSLETTER.
WE'VE PUT ARTICLES IN THE DAILY NEWS.
I'VE TALKED ABOUT IT, UM, OVER THE YEARS 'CAUSE WE'VE HAD THIS FOR MORE THAN SEVEN YEARS.
UM, WE RECENTLY JUST WORKED WITH, UM, THE VILLAGE OF JACKSON AND THEIR POLICE DEPARTMENT WITH THEIR FRAUD FRIDAYS, UM, NOTICES, IF YOU GUYS HAVE, UM, ANYBODY HAS, UM, NOTICED ANY OF THOSE.
THEIR SOCIAL MEDIA, FACEBOOK, INSTAGRAM, UM, DOES FRAUD FRIDAYS, SO WE TAPPED INTO THEM.
THAT INCREASED, UM, WITHIN PROBABLY A WEEK, UM, OF LIKE ALMOST 60.
NOT NOTIFICATION REGISTRATIONS ON THAT.
SO ANYBODY HAS ANY IDEAS? I'D BE HAPPY TO, UH, REACH OUT TO, UM, GET SOME MORE, UM, INFORMATION ON THAT.
YES, I WOULD OFFER A QUICK TESTIMONIAL HOW WELL IT WORKS.
GOOD FORGETTING I SIGNED UP FOR IT.
AND LAST WEEK I GOT A NOTIFICATION OF A, OF A RECORDING
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THAT.SO IT CONCERNED ME AT FIRST SEEING THAT, YOU KNOW, FORGETTING THAT I WAS EVEN IN THAT PROGRAM.
BUT EVERYTHING WAS FINE AND, UM, IT WORKS VERY WELL.
I'M GLAD YOU TOOK ADVANTAGE OF THAT.
SO ANYBODY LIVING IN THE COUNTY, PLEASE SIGN UP FOR IT.
UH, THE LINK IS FOUND ON THE COUNTY'S WEBSITE, REGISTER OF DEEDS, LAND RECORDS, AND THEN LAND NOTIFICATIONS.
SO YES, SECONDLY, PAGE WOULD BE 41.
UM, UH, THE REAL ESTATE RECORDS.
NOW, THIS IS A BIG, BIG PART OF OUR OFFICE.
IT'S A BIG PART OF WHERE OUR REVENUE COMES FROM.
IT'S ALSO THE, UM, UH, WE'VE STREAMLINED ALL THE PROCESSES.
WE, UH, ELECTRONICALLY RECORD ABOUT 80% OF OUR DOCUMENTS.
SO THEREBY REDUCING MAIL COSTS, EVERYTHING ELSE THAT GOES ALONG WITH THAT.
UM, AND, AND SPEEDING UP THE PRODUCTION OF THAT.
SO, UM, THERE'S A FEW THINGS JUST TO ENHANCE THOSE.
UM, ONE BEING THAT I'VE TALKED ABOUT WITH, I'VE BEEN VERY PASSIONATE ABOUT.
AND ON A, A COMMITTEE OF ONE WITH THE, UM, UM, THE IRS, UM, TROUBLESHOOTING THINGS SINCE 2005, 2006 WHEN WE WERE IN THE OLD PAPER WORLD.
AND THE COUNTIES WOULD HAVE TO ISSUE INVOICES AND TRY AND COLLECT FROM THE IRS.
IT, IT WAS JUST A BIG DISASTER.
SO MOVING FORWARD, WE STILL GET PAPER, UM, FEDERAL TAX LIENS THAT ARE FILED AGAINST, UM, INDIVIDUALS THAT LIVE IN WASHINGTON COUNTY.
THE PAYMENT, HOWEVER, FOR PROBABLY ALMOST 10 YEARS HAS BEEN COMING VIA A CH.
SO I WOULD SAY PROBABLY NINE TIMES OUT OF 10 WE GET THE A CH NOTICE BEFORE WE ACTUALLY GET THE PAPER.
SO FOR ME, IT WAS A NO BRAINER.
WHY DON'T WE CONVERT THIS TO AN ELECTRONIC PROCESS JUST TO MAKE IT MORE EFFICIENT? WELL, DEALING WITH THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT AND DIFFERENT CONTACTS AND EVERYTHING, IT HAS BEEN A REAL STRUGGLE, UM, REACHING OUT TO VARIOUS DIFFERENT CONGRESSMEN, UM, UM, STATE SENATORS, UM, ON THE FEDERAL LEVEL.
UM, WE WERE ABLE TO GET A REPORT FROM THE APPROPRIATIONS COMMITTEE THAT SAID, YEP, THE, UM, IRS SHOULD DO THIS AND THEY SHOULD DO IT SOON, BUT THEY NEVER REALLY DESIGNATED A TIMEFRAME.
WE REACHED BACK OUT TO A REPRESENTATIVE MARK HAN'S OFFICE.
UM, THAT INDIVIDUAL WAS ON THE APPROPRIATIONS COMMITTEE AT THE TIME, UM, AND BASICALLY SAID THE, IT'LL BE YEARS BEFORE THE IRS UPDATES THEIR PROGRAMS, EVEN THOUGH, UH, NATIONALLY, UM, ELECTRONIC RECORDING IS GOING ON IN ALL 50 STATES.
SO, UM, I, WE KEEP TALKING ABOUT IT, KEEP BRINGING IT UP.
SO, UM, SO THAT, THAT'S WHY THAT ONE'S OFF TRACK.
THE OTHER ONES, WE HAVE LOTS AND LOTS OF PROJECTS THAT WE'VE DONE OVER THE YEARS TO TRY AND, UM, PRESERVE ALL OF OUR PAPER BOOKS.
WE HAVE 'EM ALL DIGITAL, IT'S JUST A MATTER OF HOW TO GET 'EM ONLINE IN, IN THE ORDER WHERE PEOPLE WOULD USE THEM.
WE DON'T WANNA WASTE OUR RESOURCES AND TRY AND FIGURING OUT HOW TO PUT THEM ONLINE AND THEN NOBODY EVER ACCESSES 'EM.
SO, UM, THAT'S LIKE THE, THE MISCELLANEOUS DIG DIGITIZED IMAGES.
THE THIRD ONE IS THE QUALITY CONTROLLING.
UM, WE HAVE DONE VARIOUS PROJECTS OVER THE YEARS, UM, UH, DIGITIZED, UH, PAPER AND MICROFICHE DID LIKE ONE NAME, ONE WHAT WE CALL A GRAND TOUR, LIKE A, AN INDIVIDUAL'S MORTGAGE TO THE BANK.
AND THEN WHAT'S CALLED A LEGAL DESCRIPTION.
SO WE HAD PARTIAL INDEXES WITH THAT.
SO IN BETWEEN THE REAL ESTATE MARKET, WHEN IT'S SLOWER, UM, MY STAFF WORKS ON ENHANCING THOSE INDEXES AND THEN MAKING SURE WE HAVE GOOD QUALITY IMAGES, UM, TO BE ACCESSIBLE THERE.
SO, UM, ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT THE REAL ESTATE PART OF IT? UM, OTHERWISE, THE NEXT ONE IS VITAL RECORDS.
AGAIN, JUST TALKING ABOUT THE STATEWIDE ISSUANCE.
UM, WE HAVE, UM, FREIGHTER HERE IN WEST BEND WHERE, UM, CHILDREN ARE BORN.
UM, THE PROCESSES IN THE, THE PARENTS FILL OUT, UM, THE INFORMATION, GIVE THE CHILD A NAME.
ALL THE INFORMATION FILTERS UP TO THE STATEWIDE DATABASE IN MADISON.
IT TAKES ANYWHERE FROM FIVE TO SEVEN DAYS FOR, UM, THE BIRTH RECORD TO BE CREATED.
UM, IT TAKES ABOUT APPROXIMATELY TWO TO THREE WEEKS FOR STATE VITAL RECORDS TO SEND TO THE PARENTS A NOTICE THAT HERE'S THE INFORMATION ON YOUR CHILD, BUT ON THE BACK OF THAT FORM IS AN APPLICATION THAT THE PARENT CAN JUST FILL OUT AN ORDER FROM STATE VITAL RECORDS.
THEY CAN DO THAT, THAT THAT'S PART OF WHAT IT IS.
SO I'VE WORKED WITH THE HOSPITAL
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AND ACTUALLY PRESENTED THEM FORMS. SO THEY COME LOCALLY.WE ENCOURAGE, UM, YOU KNOW, YOUNG PEOPLE OR A NEW PARENTS WITH A NEW CHILD TO JUST COME IN.
UM, IT'S KIND OF A BLESSING IN DISGUISE BECAUSE I, WE SAW THREE NEWBORNS YESTERDAY, SO WE GET TO SEE ALL THE NEW BABIES BECAUSE, UM, SO THAT, THAT'S KIND OF A, A FUN PART OF OUR JOB.
SO, UM, IF, IF ANYBODY HAS ANY OTHER SUGGESTIONS OF HOW WE CAN GET THE WORD OUT ABOUT VITAL RECORDS AND OUR COUNTY, YOU KNOW, PLEASE KEEP TALKING ABOUT IT.
SO, UM, AND LASTLY, THE, UM, AGAIN, ENHANCING THE HISTORICAL RECORDS.
UM, WE LAST YEAR, UM, THROUGH THE LAND INFORMATION COUNCIL, UM, THAT OTHER HALF OF THAT $15, UM, THE COUNTY GETS TO RETAIN, I WANNA SAY $8 OF THAT.
AND, UM, THE LAND INFORMATION COUNCIL, UM, HAS A PLAN WITH WHICH TO SPEND THOSE FUNDINGS.
IT DOES, UM, TOPOGRAPHIC MAPPING IT, EVERYTHING THAT YOU BASICALLY SEE ONLINE WITH THE GIS AND THE HISTORICAL TAX ROLL AND EVERYTHING, THAT'S THE POT OF MONEY THAT COME.
IT'S NOT, IT'S NOT FROM THE TAX LEVY.
IT'S THIS POT OF MONEY THAT PAYS FOR ALL THESE PROJECTS THAT ARE IN THIS PLAN.
SO I PROPOSED LAST YEAR, UM, TO THE LAND INFORMATION COUNCIL TO, UM, GET FUNDING OUT OF THERE TO REALLY WORK HARD ON THIS BACK INDEXING PROJECT.
SO THERE WAS $200,000 THAT WAS AWARDED.
UM, WE JUST SIGNED THE CONTRACT.
WE ARE SINGLE SOURCING IT DIRECTLY TO OUR LAND RECORDS VENDOR WHO
THE, THE LAND RECORDS VENDOR CONTRACTS, THOSE INDIVIDUALS AND THEN PAYS FOR THEM OUT OF THIS FUNDING THAT'S THERE.
UM, WITH THE $200,000, WE'RE HOPING TO GET, YOU KNOW, QUALITY CONTROL, UM, ALL THE INDEXES AND VERIFY THE IMAGES ARE GOOD QUALITY.
UM, IT'S, IT'S AN EXPENSIVE PROCESS.
BUT, UH, YOU KNOW, I'D LOVE TO SAY THIS, THIS WOULD BE DONE IN MY LIFETIME, BUT I I, UNLESS YOU CONTRACT SOME OF THIS STUFF OUT AND TAKE IT IN CHUNKS, UM, IT'S GONNA BE A LONG TIME.
SO, UM, AND THAT'S THE REGISTER OF DEEDS.
BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY EMAILS OR CALLS OR QUESTIONS ABOUT IT.
I ENCOURAGE THE NEWER MEMBERS TO THIS COMMITTEE TO STOP BY AND VISIT OUR OFFICE ANYTIME OR CALL US.
UM, AND MY PROMISE, MY NEXT QUARTERLY REPORT WILL BE MUCH SHORTER.
ALRIGHT, UH, CHAIR RECOGNIZES SUPERVISOR MARY.
I WOULD LIKE TO ASK OUR, UM, COMMITTEE CHAIR TO DRAFT A MEMO TO OUR REGISTERED DEEDS ANNOUNCING TO HER THAT ALL FUTURE RETIREMENTS HAVE BEEN POSTPONED AND DEFINITE.
SO ALL THIS WORK HAS BEEN DONE.
CHAIR WILL DEFINITELY CONSIDER THAT
UM, I HAVE BEEN SERVING AS THE REGISTER OF DEEDS, UH, FOR 20, THIS IS MY 22ND YEAR.
STARTED IN THE OFFICE, WORKED ABOUT 10 YEARS UNDER THE PREVIOUS REGISTER.
SO I AM ENCOURAGING AND SUPPORTING, UM, MY DEPUTY.
UM, SHE WILL CARRY ON THE LEGACY THAT WAS HANDED DOWN TO ME, AND SHE'S VERY IN TUNED WITH WHAT'S GOING ON.
SHE HAS PARTICIPATED IN A LOT OF THESE DECISIONS, ET CETERA.
I'LL HARDLY MISS YOU WHEN YOU LEAVE HERE.
I'M NOT GOING FAR, BUT YES, IT'S, IT'S TIME TO MOVE ON.
OKAY, WE'LL MOVE ON, UH, TO THE PARKS AND TRAILS QUARTERLY REPORT.
UM, I'LL BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS ON THIS REPORT, BUT I DO WANNA JUST SAY TWO THINGS.
UM, ONE ON THE ATTRACT VISITORS TO WASHINGTON COUNTY, GOALS ABOUT MOUNTAIN BIKING AND GLACIER
[f. Parks & Trails Quarterly Report]
HILLS LAKEFRONT.THOSE ARE TWO OF THE DESTINATIONS WE WILL BE TOURING ON SATURDAY, MAY 25TH.
WE'RE GOING TO START AT THE GLACIER HILLS HALL.
UM, AND THEN THAT PROJECT IS THE FOCUS OF THAT STOP.
AND THEN WE ARE GOING TO MOVE TO HERITAGE TRAILS.
UM, AND THAT PROJECT AND FUTURE PLAN OUT THERE IS THE TOPIC FOR THAT MEETING THAT WE HAVE PLANNED.
WE PLAN TO VALIDATE LICENSE PLATES FOR ALL OF YOU FOR THE ENTIRE MEMORIAL DAY WEEKEND AND PROVIDE YOU WITH KIND OF AN ON YOUR OWN.
HERE'S OTHER PARKS THAT YOU CAN GO VISIT, UM, FOR THAT ORIENTATION.
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RELATED TO THAT GLACIER HILLS LAKEFRONT PROJECT AS WELL.YOU SHOULD BE AWARE THAT ON MONDAY MORNING, MAY 20TH, AT 7:30 AM THE GULF PARKS AND TRAILS ENDOWMENT COMMITTEE WILL BE MEETING, UM, WHICH IS STAFFED BY WASHINGTON COUNTY.
AND THEIR PACKET, WHICH WE WILL BE SENDING TO ALL OF YOU, INCLUDES, UM, SOME INFORMATION ON PARK REVENUES THAT THEY ASKED FOR, UM, AS WELL AS THE 2050 PLAN AND THE RELEASE OF THE NUMBERS FOR THE GLACIER HILLS LAKEFRONT DEVELOPMENT PROJECT, AS WELL AS THE SCHEMATIC.
SO THE ENDOWMENT COMMITTEE FUNDED THE PLANNING WORK FOR THIS PROJECT.
UM, IT'S COMING BACK IN THIS RANGE.
WE EXPECTED AROUND $1.2 MILLION.
SO, UM, THE TOPIC IS REALLY HOW WE PLAN TO FUND THAT AND WHAT THOSE POLICY QUESTIONS ARE.
SO I WILL BE ENCOURAGING YOU ALL TO READ THAT PACKET.
IT'S GONNA HAVE SOME GOOD INFORMATION.
UM, AND WE'LL BE ABLE TO HAVE A CONVERSATION DURING OUR TOUR ABOUT WHAT THE ENDOWMENT COMMITTEE'S KIND OF THOUGHTS ARE ON THOSE SPENDABLE DISTRIBUTIONS.
WE ARE RECOMMENDING THIS PROJECT TO HELP.
WE ALSO HAVE SOME ADDITIONAL MONEY FROM TC ENERGY TO HELP MATCH GRANT APPLICATIONS THAT WOULD BE FORTHCOMING AS PART OF THE SPENDING STRATEGY OF THAT PROJECT.
SO, UM, I KNOW THAT WAS A LOT TO TAKE IN FOR A NEW COMMITTEE.
UM, BUT WE DO PLAN TO WALK SLOWLY THROUGH THIS PROJECT, KIND OF WHERE IT'S AT IN THE PROCESS.
WE DON'T DO A LOT IN TERMS OF TRYING TO GET THAT TYPE OF MONEY AND THAT TYPE OF A PROJECT ACCOMPLISHED.
SO IT'S BEEN A PARTNERSHIP WITH, UM, THE ENDOWMENT COMMITTEE SO FAR.
UM, AND THEN THIS COMMITTEE IS SET TO SEE IT AND HAVE THAT DISCUSSION MAY 25TH, WHICH IS KIND OF NICE TIMING BECAUSE WE'LL HAVE A RESPONSE ON, ON WHERE THEY'RE AT.
UM, AND YOU, AND YOU ARE WELCOME TO ATTEND THAT IF YOU ARE INTERESTED.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS ON THIS REPORT? CHAIR RECOGNIZES, UH, SUPERVISOR CONRAD.
UM, JAMIE, JUST MS. LUBECK? YEP.
UM, REGARDING THE, THE MONDAY MEETING, I AM OUT OF TOWN.
ARE YOU ABLE TO SET UP LIKE A ZOOM OR CALL IN OPTION TO LISTEN INTO THAT MEETING? I WILL TALK TO, UH, MIKE FODY ABOUT THAT.
WE, WE, HE SENT ME AN EMAIL ON THAT QUESTION.
IT MIGHT MEAN MOVING THE ROOM LOCATION OF THAT MEETING.
UM, TYPICALLY THE CLERK HASN'T STAFFED IT, SO I WILL FOLLOW UP ON THAT.
UM, BUT YEAH, 'CAUSE THEY ARE GOING TO BE DISCUSSING THE SPENDABLE DISTRIBUTIONS OF THE ENDOWMENT, WHICH RIGHT NOW, YOU KNOW, WE'RE GETTING THOSE BALANCES FROM GREATER MILWAUKEE FOUNDATION, UM, WHICH AGAIN, THAT GROUP GOVERNS THAT.
SO THEY'RE, BUT THEN IT COMES TO THIS COMMITTEE AND THE COUNTY BOARD VIA THE BUDGET.
SO IT'S A COLLABORATIVE PROCESS THAT WE WORK REALLY HARD TO TRY TO KEEP COLLABORATIVE THAT THEY, WE ALL KIND OF ARE ON THE SAME PAGE ABOUT WHAT PROJECTS ARE BEING LOOKED AT, BUT THEY'RE, YEAH.
THEY'RE ASKING QUESTIONS ABOUT THE 2050 PLAN AND SOME OF THE CAPITAL PROJECTS IN PARKS.
I WOULD BE INTERESTED IN, UH, VIRTUAL OPTION TOO.
I'LL SEE WHAT I CAN DO TO PULL THAT OFF.
I THINK IT'D BE VERY VALUABLE FOR US TO, TO HEAR THOSE DISCUSSIONS, ESPECIALLY BEING YES.
AND, AND THE VIRTUAL OPTION IS NICE TOO, BECAUSE THEN IT DOESN'T FEEL LIKE YOU'RE COMING TO THEIR MEETING, YOU KNOW, EVEN THOUGH YOU'RE ABLE TO WATCH AND LISTEN AND INTERACT IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS.
OUR, UH, THAT MEETING WE HAVE, UH, FOR THE PARKS, ARE WE DRIVING OURSELVES TO THE DESTINATION? UM, WHAT WE'LL PROBABLY DO IS, BECAUSE IT'S, I BELIEVE IT STARTS AT 7:00 AM YEAH.
UM, WE WILL BE MEETING AT GLACIER HILLS COUNTY PARK.
UM, AND THEN FROM THERE, YOU KNOW, WE CAN CERTAINLY TALK ABOUT IF WE WANT A CARPOOL TO HERITAGE TRAILS, BUT IT'S JUST FROM GLACIER HILLS TO HERITAGE TRAILS AND THEN IT'S DONE.
SO IT'S FROM, THOSE ARE THE ONLY TWO STOPS WE'RE MAKING, UM, BECAUSE WE REALLY WANNA HIT THOSE NEW HIGHLIGHTS OF THOSE PARKS AND THE CURRENT PROJECTS.
AND THEN, UM, WE'LL BE KIND OF SETTING UP SOME THINGS, YOU KNOW, THE BEER GARDEN PLACES YOU COULD GO IF YOU WANT TO TAKE A LOOK ON YOUR OWN OR TAKE A HIKE OVER THE WEEKEND, I'D ENCOURAGE ANYBODY TO VISIT ANY OF THE OTHER PARKS.
ANYTHING ELSE YOU NEED TO ADD TO THAT OR? NOPE.
JAMIE, MISS? NOPE, WE'RE GOOD.
NOT IF THERE'S NOT OTHER QUESTIONS, NOT I ACCEPT THE MOTION FOR THE RESOLUTION.
UH, PLANNING SERVICES
CONFIRMING THE WASHINGTON COUNTY COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT.
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UH, DEPARTMENT[g. 2024 Resolution: Resolution Confirming the Washington County Community Development Department Providing Municpal Planning Services to the Village of Kewaskum as Part of Shared Revenue of the County Sales Tax]
PROVIDING MUNICIPAL PLANNING SERVICES TO THE VILLAGE OF KI WASCO AS PART OF A SHARED REVENUE.DEBBIE, YOU NEED TO ADD ANYTHING TODAY? ONLY IF I HAVE ANY QUESTIONS.
UM, HEARING NONE, I WOULD YEAH.
UM, I, I DO APPRECIATE KEEP HOW THE COUNTY IS KEEPING TRACK OF, UM, THE, THE SHARED, UM, SERVICES THAT WE ARE OFFERING AND TO, YOU KNOW, KEEP SUSTAINING THAT AND KIND OF ADVERTISING IT ALSO.
UH, I THINK THAT, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE CERTAINLY THE, UH, DEPARTMENTS AND MANPOWER AND ALL THE REST OF THAT, A LOT OF OUR SMALL MUNICIPALITIES DON'T HAVE, AND WE CAN OFFER TO SHARE WITH THEM.
AND THIS ULTIMATELY SAVES THE TAX DOLLARS FOR OUR RESIDENTS.
SO I THINK IT'S A REALLY GOOD PLAN.
SO ANYTHING ELSE TO ADD? OH, SORRY.
UM, AS THIS HAS COME ALONG, PROBABLY THE LAST ALMOST YEAR NOW, UM, THERE'S BEEN TALK ABOUT A DASHBOARD SOMEWHERE ON OUR COUNTY SITE TO SAY TO MEASURE THAT.
AND, UH, WE WERE TOLD BY, UH, AARON DAHL THE OTHER DAY THAT IT'S VERY CLOSE TO BEING READY TO GO LIVE.
SO YOU CAN LOOK FOR THAT IN THE FUTURE.
IN EACH MUNICIPALITY, CORRECT.
ON WHERE IT'S GOING? I BELIEVE SO.
ANYTHING ELSE FURTHER TO ADD? ALL RIGHT, WE'LL VOTE ON THIS.
UH, ALL, UH, ALL APPROVED SAY AYE.
RESOLUTION CONFIRMING THE WASHINGTON COUNTY COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT, UH, DEPARTMENT PROVIDING MUNICIPAL PLANNING SERVICES TO THE VI VILLAGE OF JACKSON AS PART OF ITS SHARED REVENUE SAVINGS PROGRAM, WHICH IS PRETTY MUCH THE SAME THING WE'RE DOING
[h. 2024 Resolution: Resolution Confirming the Washington County Community Development Department Providing Municipal Planning Services to the Village of Jackson as Part of Shared Revenue of the County Sales Tax]
THEY'RE TAKING ADVANTAGE OF THIS AS, AS WELL.SO, UH, ANY QUESTION OR, I'M SORRY, WE NEED A MOTION AND A SECOND.
ANY QUESTIONS ON THIS? HEARING? NONE.
MOVING ON, RURAL COMMUNITIES, LAND AND WATER.
UM, AND WE ARE, IF YOU RECALL, UM, AGAIN, I'M JAMIE LUDOVIC, CHIEF COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT
[i. Rural Communities: Land and Water Conservation Grant Program]
OFFICER.WE'RE GONNA GO TO THIS PRESENTATION.
UM, WE HAVE WITH US SOME REPRESENTATIVES FROM CEDAR LAKES CONSERVATION FOUNDATION THAT ARE GONNA JUMP IN.
UM, IF YOU RECALL AT THE COUNTY BOARD MEETING RECENTLY, UM, THE COUNTY BOARD APPROVED A RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING A HALF A MILLION DOLLARS FOR A PILOT PROGRAM WITH CEDAR LAKES CONSERVATION FOUNDATION, SUBJECT TO THE PROGRAM OVERVIEW AT THIS COMMITTEE.
SO THAT'S WHAT WE'RE DOING TODAY.
UM, AND SO I'M GONNA GO SLOWLY AND KIND OF WALK A LITTLE BIT THROUGH ABOUT, AT A HIGH LEVEL WHAT WE'RE THINKING FOR THIS PROGRAM.
I WANNA EMPHASIZE THAT AT THIS POINT, THIS IS A PILOT, AND SO WE ARE LOOKING FOR FEEDBACK FROM THIS GROUP.
WE ARE STILL TAKING FEEDBACK FROM AND PLAN TO HEAR FROM OTHER GROUPS SUCH AS THE FARMLAND PRESERVATION COMMITTEE FOLLOWING, UM, THIS GROUP, WE REALLY THOUGHT THE LAND USE AND PLANNING COMMITTEE SHOULD SEE IT FIRST.
UM, WE'RE STILL, THERE'S A GOOD CHANCE THAT THIS COULD CHANGE THROUGHOUT THE PROCESS AS WE LOOK AT ADDING METRICS OR ADDITIONAL METRICS OR, OR THE PILOTS.
UM, AND SO WHAT I ENCOURAGE YOU TO DO TODAY IS, YOU KNOW, LISTEN, SHARE WITH US ANY THOUGHTS YOU HAVE, BUT YOU CAN ALSO GO BACK, GO OUT, TALK TO YOUR CONSTITUENTS, YOU KNOW, COME BACK, UM, AND REALLY FOCUS ON WHETHER OR NOT WE'RE GETTING THIS RIGHT AS WE WORK ON THIS FRAMEWORK.
UM, SO THIS IS KIND OF THE STRATEGIC PRIORITY LANGUAGE THAT YOU'VE SEEN BEFORE.
UM, TALKING ABOUT, UM, LOOKING AT HOW WE MIGHT TAKE A REFRESHED LOOK AT THIS IN WASHINGTON COUNTY, UM, AND THAT THE PROGRAM GOALS FOR OPEN SPACE, HEALTHY WATERSHEDS, GROUNDWATER SUPPLY AND NATURAL RESOURCE PROTECTION AND OR FARMLAND PRESERVATION BE PRESENTED TO THE LAND USE AND PLANNING COMMITTEE.
UM, AGAIN, THIS IS KIND OF A FIRST, FIRST SHOT AT
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WHAT THESE SHOULD BE.SO HOW WE, WE STARTED THINKING ABOUT THIS, THIS IS JUST A REMINDER.
THIS IS THE STRATEGIC PLATFORM OF THE COUNTY.
GOOD GOVERNMENT, SAFE AND SECURE COMMUNITY, RELIABLE INFRASTRUCTURE, CONSTITUENT WELLBEING, ECONOMIC GROWTH, AND VITALITY.
SO WHEN WE'RE TALKING ABOUT, IN THIS CASE, THE PRESERVATION OF LAND, AND WE WERE THINKING ABOUT THE OBJECTIVES, WE REALLY STARTED WITH THE SAFETY THAT CLEAN WATER PROVIDES FOR, YOU KNOW, DRINKING WATER AND GROUNDWATER, UM, THE IMPORTANCE OF IT TO A STRONG ECONOMY, UM, AND KIND OF, UH, ALSO, YOU KNOW, HOW GOOD GOVERNMENT OPERATES AS IT RELATES.
AND SO REALLY TRYING TO TALK ABOUT WHY OPEN SPACE IS IMPORTANT, UM, FOR THE PRIORITIES OF THE COUNTY.
SO YOU SEE KIND OF THE BUBBLES THERE.
SO WHAT WE CAME UP WITH, UM, THERE ARE FOUR AND, AND I THINK WE'RE REALLY GONNA BE LOOKING AT HOW TO NARROW IN ON THE FRAMEWORK AND THE METRICS AND THE DASHBOARD TO GET AT THIS IN WASHINGTON COUNTY, BUT PRESERVE OPEN SPACE, PRODUCTIVE FARMLAND AND RURAL HERITAGE.
UM, SO A LOT OF THIS CONVERSATION WAS AROUND HOW PEOPLE MOVE HERE FOR THE RURAL FEEL OF THE COMMUNITY.
AND SO THE RURAL LIVING IN A RURAL COMMUNITY PROVIDES PEOPLE WITH A, THERE MORE PRIVACY, MORE SAFETY, RIGHT? BECAUSE THERE'S LESS DENSITY AND LESS POPULATION AND KIND OF THAT OPEN SPACE.
AND THE FARMLANDS HERE ARE PART OF THAT HISTORIC CULTURE THAT WE HAVE IN WASHINGTON COUNTY.
SO THAT PRODUCTIVE FARMLAND, AND THAT'S A KEY WORD I I WILL ASK THIS GROUP TO THINK ABOUT THAT ASSUMES THAT THE FARMLAND CONTINUES TO BE, UM, PRODUCING FOOD FOR THE FUTURE AND THE SUSTAINABLE ECONOMY.
SO, UM, THAT WORD IN ITSELF, PRODUCTIVE FARMLAND IS IMPORTANT.
AND THE PROGRAM WOULD BE THROUGH, EVENTUALLY THROUGH A POINTS ALLOCATION, PRIORITIZING LAND THAT WOULD REMAIN IN PRODUCTIVE FOR FARMLAND, PREVENT FLOOD EVENTS BY BALANCING INVESTMENT AND DEVELOPMENT WITH PROTECTING LAND THAT INFILTRATES WATER AND PROVIDES FLOOD STORAGE.
SO THIS IS REALLY A LOT OF, UM, TO SAY THIS ANOTHER WAY I'LL DRILL INTO EACH OF THESE.
UM, PREVENT SURFACE WATER QUALITY IMPAIRMENT, PROTECT GROUNDWATER AND DRINKING WATER.
SO YOU HAVE THE SURFACE WATER, THE LAKES, AND THEN YOU HAVE THE GROUNDWATER.
UM, AND SO HOW WE'RE THINKING ABOUT THE METRICS AND THE DASHBOARD, UM, OPEN SPACE AND RURAL HERITAGE TO LOOKING AT POPULATION DENSITY ADJACENCY TO ENVIRONMENTAL CORRIDORS.
IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, PLEASE ASK.
I'M GONNA GO KIND OF QUICKLY, UM, PRESERVING PRODUCTIVE FARMLAND.
I TALKED A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THIS.
SO WE KNOW FARMLAND AS A PERCENT OF TOTAL ACRES IS DECLINING.
WE KNOW THAT IF WE DON'T DO ANYTHING, YOU KNOW, IN THAT PRESERVATION MODE, IT WILL CONTINUE TO DECLINE.
UM, SO WE'RE LOOKING AT CROP YIELD PROFITS TO GET AT THE ECONOMIC ACTIVITY THAT THE PRODUCTIVE FARMLAND OFFERS, UM, ACRES OF PRIME FARMLAND, ADJACENCY TO OTHER FARMLAND, AND THEN KIND OF THE REAL RATE OF DECLINE AND DECREASES.
SO AGAIN, THIS IS, THESE ARE IN DRAFT FORM AT THIS POINT.
UM, WE'LL BE, START WITH STARTING WITH THIS GROUP.
BE BE FLOATED AND EVOLVE AS WE LOOK AT HOW THIS PROGRAM COMES TOGETHER.
UM, NOT LOOKING FOR AN ANSWER NOW ON IT, BUT IT SAYS THE DECREASE IN AC IN FARMLAND ACREAGE IS THAT, I DON'T KNOW IF IT EVEN MATTERS OR NOT, BUT NOT ALL OF IT'S LOST TO THE DEVELOPMENT.
THERE ARE SOME THAT ARE, IS LOST FOR OTHER PURPOSES.
SO I, I'M JUST WONDERING IF SOME OF THAT, I DON'T KNOW HOW BIG THAT IS, EVEN, I DON'T KNOW IF CAN FIND THAT DATA, BUT THAT'S A GOOD POINT TO DRILL INTO.
UM, AND THEN, YOU KNOW, THE FLOODING KEEPS COMING UP, BUT IN WASHINGTON COUNTY LANGUAGE PREVENTING THE STORMWATER RUNOFF CRISIS.
SO MILWAUKEE IS NEXT TO US AND THEIR MMSD, I MEAN, THEY ARE GOBBLING UP LAND BECAUSE OF OVERDEVELOPMENT, RIGHT? SO THIS GOAL IS REALLY ABOUT NOT BECOMING IN A CRISIS RELATED TO DEVELOPMENT.
AND, UM, BEING SMART ABOUT THAT FROM THE STANDPOINT OF USING THE KNOWLEDGE THAT WE HAVE RELATED TO HOW MUCH LAND IS BEING DEVELOPED AND HOW MUCH LAND IS REMAINING TO INFILTRATE WATER SO THAT WE DON'T HAVE FLOODING PROBLEMS. SO THE METRICS HERE, UM, ARE REALLY KIND OF AROUND THAT FLOODING, FORESTED OR WETLAND WITHIN PARCELS.
MONITOR THE PERCENT OF DEVELOPMENT IN THE WATERSHED.
UM, AND WE'RE LOOKING AT HOW DO WE OBTAIN INFORMATION ABOUT WHAT THOSE IMPERVIOUS SURFACE LEVELS, YOU KNOW, WHAT'S, WHAT WOULD BE, WHAT WE WOULD BE LOOKING FOR AS IT RELATES TO THE APPROPRIATE AMOUNT OF, UM, LAND FOR THE PURPOSE OF FLOODING.
UM, THE NEXT ONE IS PREVENTING SURFACE WATER
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CONTAMINATION.THIS IS PER, THIS IS ONE THAT'S REALLY IMPORTANT TO A LOT OF OUR LAKES.
UM, IT'S DIRECTLY RELATED TO ALGAE.
UM, PHOSPHORUS RUNOFF, SEDIMENT RUNOFF.
MANAGEMENT DECREASES IN THESE.
SO WE HAVE WAYS OF MEASURING OR PROJECTING THE MEASUREMENT OF OUR WORK IN CON CONCERTATION PRACTICES ON LAND THAT WILL DIRECTLY MODEL THESE.
UM, AND SO WE'RE AT THE VERY EARLY PHASES OF TALKING ABOUT THIS WALK OF TALKING WITH LAKE DISTRICTS, OF TALKING WITH OTHERS ABOUT HOW TO POTENTIALLY CREATE THAT DASHBOARD OF OVER TIME REALLY MEASURING THE IMPACTS THAT NOT ONLY THIS PROJECT AND PROGRAM IS HAVING, BUT ALSO OTHER CONSERVATION WORK.
UM, THERE SEEMS TO BE KIND OF AN OPPORTUNITY TO REALLY TAKE A LEADERSHIP ROLE IN, IN HOW THIS COMES TOGETHER FOR WASHINGTON COUNTY.
AND THEN THE LAST ONE, PROTECTING GROUNDWATER.
THIS ONE IS REALLY IMPORTANT TO HIT ON ALL OF THE COUNTY'S STRATEGIC PRIORITIES.
UM, SO WE WILL BE LOOKING AT GROUNDWATER RECHARGE AREAS AND GROUNDWATER CONTAMINATION SUSCEPTIBILITY AS PART OF THE SELECTION OF PILOTS.
UM, AND YOU KNOW, I THINK THE SUCCESS METRICS, THERE'S A FEW WAYS WE'RE LOOKING AT THE COST OF, IF WE DO WANNA MEASURE THESE ON THE PILOTS, WHAT THAT WOULD BE.
UM, I THINK WE, THERE'S A QUOTE IN MY INBOX THAT, YOU KNOW, IT'S SEVEN TO 9,000, SEVEN TO $9,000.
SO KINDA WEIGHING OUT THE LEVEL OF AND THE ABILITY TO MEASURE INFILTRATION.
UM, BUT POSITIVE OVERALL THE CONCEPT IS POSITIVE LAND MANAGEMENT LEADS TO LESS RISK OF GROUNDWATER CONTAMINATION.
UM, SO I KNOW THIS IS SOMETHING THAT IS REALLY IMPORTANT AND WE ARE TRYING TO FIGURE OUT EXACTLY HOW WE CAN LEAD IN THIS AREA.
UM, ON A PERSONAL SIDE, MY WELL JUST TESTED POSITIVE FOR CONTAMINATION.
UM, SO NOW ACTUALLY THIS MORNING WE'LL BE OUTTA WATER FOR 36 HOURS BECAUSE WE ARE, UM, HAVING TO SHOCK OUR WELL.
SO THOSE, THOSE TYPES OF STORIES, THOSE TYPES OF THINGS, WE KNOW PEOPLE CARE ABOUT THEM.
UM, WE KNOW HOW IMPORTANT THIS IS AND TRYING TO FIGURE OUT HOW THE WORK AND THE ACTION WE'RE TAKING CAN TRANSLATE INTO, YOU KNOW, LONG-TERM, UM, PROTECTING THESE AREAS.
UM, AND THEN THERE'S A, A FEW OTHER KIND OF FLOATERS OUT THERE THAT WERE STILL OPEN TO THE CONVERSATION OF WHAT ELSE, YOU KNOW, WHAT ELSE IS THERE? UM, AND I ENCOURAGE YOU TO THINK ABOUT THAT TOO AS IT RELATES TO WHAT'S IMPORTANT FOR WASHINGTON COUNTY RESIDENTS THAT WE WANNA BE PUTTING TOGETHER TO MEASURE.
UM, AND THEN I'LL PAUSE THERE IF THERE ARE ANY QUESTIONS.
AND THEN I AM GOING TO INVITE, UM, LINDA MUSER FROM CEDAR LAKES CONSERVATION FOUNDATION.
SHE'S THE EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR UP TO KIND OF WALK THROUGH, UM, ONE OF THE PILOTS.
SO WE'RE TALKING ABOUT MULTIPLE PILOTS AND PUTTING METRICS AND DASHBOARDS IN PLACE, UM, TO BUILD OUT THIS PROGRAM.
WE ARE ONLY GOING TO TALK ABOUT ONE TODAY FOR A VARIETY OF REASONS, BUT WE, WE THOUGHT THAT WOULD BE HELPFUL FOR YOU TO KIND OF UNDERSTAND HOW WE'RE THINKING THESE COME INTO PLAY.
SO ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS BEFORE I HAVE HER DO THAT? OKAY, IT'S ALL YOURS.
HI, I'M LINDA LER AND THIS IS SOPHIE GASTI.
SHE WORKS WITH ME ON LAND CONSERVATION PROJECTS.
UM, SO THE PROPERTY WE WANTED TO TALK ABOUT BRIEFLY IS THE HASSINGER FARM.
WE RECENTLY PURCHASED THIS FARM.
IT'S BEEN IN THE FAMILY SINCE 1849.
UM, IT'S BEEN PRETTY CONTINUOUSLY FARMED SINCE 1849.
UM, ORIGINALLY OF COURSE THEY HAD, YOU KNOW, ANIMALS, COWS, CHICKENS, PIGS.
UM, AND THEN BEGINNING IN 2003 THEY CHANGED OVER TO CROPS.
AND THEN SINCE 2016 IT'S BEEN LEASED.
UM, IT'S IN WHAT WE CALL SUB-BASIN 15 OF BIG CEDAR LAKE.
ALL LAKES HAVE SUB-BASINS THAT DRAIN INTO THEM.
SUB-BASIN 15 HAPPENS TO BE THE LARGEST SUB-BASIN OF BIG CEDAR LAKE.
UM, IT HAS QUITE A BIT OF FARMLAND ON IT, AND AS YOU CAN SEE, IT CONTRIBUTES 32% OF THE SEDIMENT LOAD AND 31% OF THE PHOSPHORUS LOAD, UM, TO BIG CEDAR LAKE JOS FROM THAT ONE SUB-BASIN.
UM, SO IT IS A HUGE, UM, CONTRIBUTOR OF BOTH PHOSPHORUS AND SEDIMENT.
UM, INTERESTINGLY ENOUGH, THIS WAS A STUDY THAT HAD BEEN DONE, UM, BASED ON DATA IN 1995 AND, UM, THE BIG CEDAR LAKE PRD IN CONJUNCTION WITH THE TOWN OF WEST BEND IN OURSELVES AND LITTLE CEDAR LAKE PRD ARE UPDATING, UM, THAT STUDY TO SEE WHAT THE DATA SHOWS NOW.
UM, THIS IS HAPPENS TO BE WHAT THE HASSINGER FARM LOOKED LIKE NOT TOO LONG AGO AFTER A BIG RAINSTORM.
UM, SO YOU CAN SEE THIS IS PLEASANT VALLEY ROAD, UM, LOOKING TOWARDS THE SILO ON THE FARM.
UM, AGAIN, THIS IS SOME OF THE WATER ACCUMULATION.
THIS IS NOW HOW THE WATER MOVES.
SO YOU CAN SEE IN THE LITTLE DIAGRAM
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THE WATER TRAVELS SOUTH AND THEN IT TRAVELS, UM, BACK NORTH, UM, AND, AND EXITS, UH, INTO, UM, THE LAKE.SO THIS IS THE WATER STARTING ON THAT SOUTHERN ROUTE.
UM, IT GOES INTO THIS WETLAND AREA.
IT THEN GOES OVER TO THE NEIGHBORING PROPERTY.
YOU CAN SEE SOME OF THE WATER IN THE BACK.
AND THEN IT ULTIMATELY GETS, UM, ACROSS NEAR DEEN BOX CORNER, UM, WHERE IT, IT FLOWS IN.
AND I'M NOT SURE I'M GONNA BE ABLE TO GET THIS VIDEO TO WORK, BUT THIS GIVES YOU AN IDEA OF THE RATE OF THE RUNOFF, UH, THAT CAN, CAN OCCUR AFTER A RAIN EVENT.
YOU CAN SEE THE COLOR IN THAT RUNOFF.
SO IT'S TAKING, YOU KNOW, ALL SORTS OF THINGS, UM, WITH IT.
AND THAT'S WHAT'S CONTRIBUTING TO SOME OF THAT POLLUTION, UM, THAT GOES INTO THE LAKE.
UM, SO THAT REALLY, YOU KNOW, COVERS AN EXAMPLE OF A PROJECT WHERE I THINK THAT WE COULD MAKE, UM, IMPROVEMENTS, UM, IN TALKING WITH LAND AND WATER CONSERVATION, UM, ABOUT WHAT SORT OF THINGS COULD BE IMPLEMENTED.
SO, YOU KNOW, SOME OF THOSE PRACTICES, UM, THAT WE'VE IMPLEMENTED IN OTHER FIELDS, FOR EXAMPLE, ARE, YOU KNOW, GOING TO NO-TILL FARMING, YOU KNOW, PUTTING IN SOME GRASSY STRIPS, TAKING SOME FIELDS OUT OF, YOU KNOW, ACTIVE, YOU KNOW, TILLAGE AND PUTTING IT INTO, FOR EXAMPLE, PERMANENT COVER.
UM, I KNOW THE COUNTY HAS, YOU KNOW, LOOKED AT ARE THERE OTHER THINGS YOU CAN DO PUTTING IN BERMS, YOU KNOW, TO HELP MANAGE, YOU KNOW, SOME OF THAT, THAT RUNOFF AND ALSO INFILTRATION, YOU KNOW, FOR THE GROUND WATER AND, AND THE WELL WATER, ET CETERA.
SO, UM, THAT JUST, YOU KNOW, SORT OF GIVES YOU A PICTURE AND SHOWS WHAT SOME OF THESE RAIN EVENTS, YOU KNOW, CAN DO, UM, AND HOW MUCH WATER, YOU KNOW, CAN FLOW.
SO I THINK I'LL WRAP IT UP THERE.
I KNOW YOU GUYS HAVE BEEN HERE FOR A VERY LONG TIME THIS MORNING.
UM, BUT HAPPY TO TAKE ANY QUESTIONS.
AND PAUL'S HERE FROM THE COUNTY TOO, IN, IN CASE YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR HIM.
WELL, A LOT OF THINGS YOU DO AND I MEAN, I'M WELL ACQUAINTED AT THAT AND THE STUFF WE DO ON OUR FARM, THE COVER CROPS AND EVERYTHING, YOU KEEP THE NUTRIENT STUFF, YOU DON'T LEE AWAY AND DON'T TILL YOU DON'T HAVE THE EROSION AND YOU KEEP SOMETHING GROWING, YOU DON'T GET WIND EROSION OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT.
AND MEAN FARMING'S CHANGED A LOT IN THE LAST YEARS AND YOU GOTTA KEEP GOING AND GROUNDWATER SOMETHING THAT YOU TAKE FOR GRANTED, BUT EVENTUALLY IT WON'T BE THERE IF YOU, IT GETS, UH, POLLUTED EVERYTHING.
SO, YEAH, AND I WOULD JUST LIKE TO ADD, THAT'S A GREAT COMMENT.
IT REMINDS ME TO POINT OUT THAT THIS PROGRAM IS ABOUT PRESERVING THE LAND, WHETHER THAT'S THROUGH PURCHASES DIRECTLY OR EASEMENTS, RIGHT? SO THE DOLLARS ARE GOING TO BE APPLIED TO THAT, BUT IT GOES HAND IN HAND WITH CONSERVATION.
AND THAT IS WORK THAT OUR CONSERVATION TEAM, OUR AND OUR PRODUCER LED GROUPS AND OUR FARMERS HAVE BEEN DOING ALREADY.
AND SO WHEN WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THESE METRICS, UM, IT'S, THEY GO TOGETHER AND I THINK THAT'S SOMETHING WE'RE KIND OF TRYING TO NAVIGATE THROUGH THE DASHBOARD RELATED TO, YOU KNOW, HOW ARE WE MEASURING ALL OF THE ACTIVITIES THAT ARE HAPPENING SO THAT WE HAVE A CLEAR PICTURE OF WHAT'S HAPPENING IN WASHINGTON COUNTY.
UM, OUR LAND AND WATER TEAM, AND I'M SURE THOSE OF YOU THAT HAVE BEEN AROUND, I'M LOOKING AT UM, SUPERVISOR KREBS CAN RECALL SPECIFIC PROJECTS WHERE WE MAKE AN IMPACT ON WATER EVERY SINGLE DAY.
UM, AND SO I THINK WE WANNA MAKE SURE WE'RE THE PUBLIC WORKS COMMITTEE TALKED ABOUT ONE, UH, WITH A HIGHWAY STREAM RELOCATION OR IS TALKING ABOUT THAT BECAUSE IT'S GOING THROUGH THE HIGHWAY P PROJECT, THEY'RE RELOCATING A STREAM WITH CONSERVATION.
UM, AND SO KIND OF TAKING THOSE PIECES AND BUILDING IT TO REALLY, I THINK THIS HIGHER LEVEL CONCEPT OF WHAT IS IT RELATED TO WATER HEALTH THAT ARE THE COUNTY GOALS, RIGHT? THE PROGRAM GOALS PENETRATE MULTIPLE, MULTIPLE AREAS AND HOW ARE WE WE COMMUNICATING ABOUT THAT? SO I THINK WE HAVE A BIG TASK IN FRONT OF US AND IT'S A LOT OF WORK.
UM, AND WE'RE AT THE VERY BEGINNING OF KIND OF TRYING TO FORMULATE THAT.
UM, BUT WOULD DEFINITELY WELCOME THIS COMMITTEE TO THINK ABOUT THIS, UM, AND PROVIDE ANY FEEDBACK AND THERE'LL BE OTHER OPPORTUNITIES AS WELL AS WE BUILD THIS OUT AND MOVE FORWARD.
BUT WE ARE HOPING TO GET STARTED.
SO, UM, WITH THAT, IF THERE ARE ANY QUESTIONS WE ARE HERE TO ANSWER THEM.
UM, JUST A STATEMENT MORE OR LESS, NOT A QUESTION, BUT IT SEEMS YOU HAD A PARTICULAR SET OF NUMBERS WITH WHAT THE WATERSHED IS PUTTING IN AND RUNOFF TO BIG CEDAR LAKE.
UM, AND IT SEEMS TO ME THAT ONE OF THE GREAT METRICS THAT I WOULD USE IS IF YOU COULD MENTION THAT AFTER YOU PUT IN, UH, SOME OF YOUR ENHANCEMENTS IN PLACE AND SEE WHAT KIND OF IMPACT WE'RE HAVING ON THAT WATERSHED EXCEED MM-HMM
AND IF WE CAN SHOW THE REDUCTION IN RUNOFFS AND AND
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CONTAMINATIONS, UH, THROUGH PHOSPHORUS, I WOULD, I WOULD SEE THAT AS A VERY GOOD METRIC, UH, GRADE FOR UH, HOW EFFECTIVE WE'RE BEING IN OUR USE OF OUR TAX DOLLARS IN OUR PLAN.YEAH, NO, I THINK THAT'S VERY INTERESTING AND I THINK THAT THE STUDY THAT'S BEING DOWN NOW DONE NOW IS GONNA BE INTERESTING TO SHOW WHAT CHANGES HAVE HAPPENED SINCE 1995 BECAUSE A LOT OF EFFORTS HAVE BEEN PUT IN PLACE, YOU KNOW, ALREADY IN THE WATERSHED.
AND I WILL LEAVE THAT, I MEAN, LOOKING AT PHOSPHORUS LOADS, I DO THINK YOU ALL HAVE THE ABILITY TO MEASURE CHANGES FROM A COMPUTATIONAL STANDPOINT.
IS THAT RIGHT? ON RUNOFF? TYPICALLY FOR ALL OF OUR PROJECTS AT THE BACK END, WE'RE DOING SOME MODELING TO FIGURE OUT KIND OF WHAT THE IMPACT IS ON THE BACK END TOO.
IF WE'RE LOOKING AT SOMETHING MORE SPECIFIC OF MAYBE SOME DOING SOME ACTUAL KIND OF GRAB SAMPLES TO REALLY TRY AND QUANTIFY AND FIELD VERIFY STUFF, THAT'S MAYBE ANOTHER DISCUSSION THAT'S WORTH HAVING TOO.
YEAH, AND I, I THINK, UH, YOU, YOU ACTUALLY WOULD WANT THE, UM, THE ACTUAL SAMPLE BECAUSE I THINK IT REALLY, YOU KNOW, MODELING HAS A TENDENCY, I DON'T KNOW, IT JUST PEOPLE DON'T TRUST IT.
UH, GARBAGE IN, GARBAGE OUT, THAT SORT OF THING.
BUT ACTUAL METRICS, I THINK IT'S REALLY HARD TO ARGUE THAT, YOU KNOW, HEY, HERE'S THE NUMBERS BEFORE, AND YOU KNOW, THESE FIVE SIX SAMPLES SHOW NOW THAT WE'VE IMPROVED BY THIS MUCH SHOWS THE PROGRAMS EFFECTIVENESS.
SO JUST MY THOUGHT ON THAT IS THAT REAL DATA IS PRETTY MUCH HARD TO DISPUTE.
NOT IMPOSSIBLE, BUT DIFFICULT.
SO MAYBE AN OPPORTUNITY TO PARTNER MORE TOO WITH THE, THE PRDS THAT SIT ON LITERACY LIKE PRDS AND THERE'S VOLUNTEERS THAT DO THAT, UM, THREE TIMES THROUGHOUT THE YEAR IF THEY, YOU KNOW, ASSESS DIFFERENT, UM, WATER QUALITY MEASUREMENTS.
UM, BUT YEAH, BUT SPECIFICALLY I'M LOOKING AT THE RUNOFF ITSELF.
THE PHOSPHORUS AND SPECIFIC THINGS.
SO ACTUALLY THE ONLY THING THAT MAKES ME A LITTLE HESITANT ON THAT SOMETIMES, JUST BECAUSE THERE'S SO MANY VARIABLES THAT GO INTO THAT AT TIMES.
'CAUSE YOU HAVE, LET'S SAY YOU GOT A FOUR INCH RAINSTORM THAT DROPS IN APRIL, THAT'S GONNA HAVE A DIFFERENT IMPACT AS A FOUR INCH RAINSTORM THAT DROPS IN IN LIKE JULY TOO.
SO IT'S HARD TO, AND YOU AND THOSE COME VARY OVER THE COURSE OF THE YEAR.
IT'S, THAT'S WHAT SOMETIMES I THINK OUR, WE TEND TO BE GOING TO THESE MODELS 'CAUSE THEY FOUND A WAY TO KIND OF EVEN OUT SOME OF THAT YEAR TO YEAR VARIABILITY.
BUT YEAH, I THINK, I THINK IT WOULD BE FAIR TO, AND IT'S A GOOD DISCUSSION PROBABLY FOR US TO HAVE LINDA, ABOUT HOW DO WE, HOW DO WE MAYBE GET A LITTLE BIT BETTER NUMBERS AND SHOW THE GOOD WE'RE DOING ON COUNTRYSIDE.
I THINK IF YOU'RE LOOKING AT OVERALL IMPACT, NOT PINPOINTING ON THIS DAY WE, WE WERE 10% LESS.
WELL THAT'S ONE DAY A STORM COULD CHANGE ALL THAT.
UM, BUT I THINK OVER TIME WHEN YOU HAVE A COLLECTION OF DATA POINTS, UH, THAT SHOWS IN A GRAPH, YOU KNOW, THAT WE'RE IMPROVING, UH, THESE, THESE NUMBERS ARE GOING DOWN.
I THINK THAT'S KIND OF WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT.
YOU KNOW, I'M NOT, I DO REALIZE THAT THERE'S GONNA BE CHANGES AS WEATHER EVENTS AND CERTAIN TIMES OF YEAR CAN AFFECT THOSE, UH, CHANGES.
BUT THANK YOU FOR YOUR PARTNERSHIP AND EFFORTS.
UH, MR. MARY, UH, JAMIE, JUST A TECHNICAL STANDPOINT.
ARE YOU AWARE THAT THAT LAST SERIES OF SLIDES THAT WERE ON THE WEBSITE, THERE IS NO COPY TO THE SLIDES? YEAH, THE PHOTOS SEE IT.
THE PHOTOS OF THEIR CHAIRMAN? YES.
THAT IS ACTUALLY AN ISSUE WITH OUR AGENDA MANAGEMENT PROGRAM.
THERE IS A BUG THAT THEY WERE WORKING ON FIXING.
SO THAT HAD NOTHING TO DO WITH JAMIE'S REPORT.
IT'S ACTUALLY THE AGENDA MANAGEMENT SOFTWARE.
I WASN'T SURE HOW THE PREPARATION WAS DONE, BUT IS YOU AWARE OF IT'S BEING FIXED? SO IT YES, THANK YOU EMAIL SAYING THAT THE ENGINEERS ARE WORKING ON IT DAILY, HOURLY.
AND IF YOU LOOK CLOSELY, THE WORDING IS THERE, BUT IT'S REALLY IMPOSSIBLE TO SEE.
YOU'D HAVE TO, THAT WAS, AND THAT THE LETTER TEXT FONT THAT YOU WERE REFERRING TO, I THINK THAT, THAT IT'S SOMETHING THERE TOO.
'CAUSE IN OUR COPIES IT DOESN'T LOOK LIKE THAT.
YOU KNOW, IT DOESN'T LOOK LIKE THAT.
SO THAT'S THE WAY IT'S TRANSLATING HERE.
YESTERDAY, MIKE, SEPARATELY TO ALL THE, YOU CAN BLAME ALL THIS ON THE NORTHERN LIGHTS WRONG.
WAS THAT ECLIPSE OKAY WITH THAT? UH, WE'VE
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I'M SORRY.DID YOU HAVE ANYTHING ADD? OKAY.
UH, WITH THAT I THINK IT APPEARS WE'VE, UH, CONDUCTED ALL OF OUR BUSINESS AS MIGHTY AS IT WAS.
OUR NEXT MEETING DATE WILL BE THURSDAY, JUNE 20TH.
IS THAT GONNA BE THE NEW PERMANENT TIME? YEAH, THAT'S, SO THAT'S WHAT WE'RE GONNA DO FOR THE NEW PERMANENT TIME.
UM, AND IT, THAT, UH, SHOULD BE IT.