Aug 21, 2024 Public Safety Committee Meeting

SAFETY COMMITTEE OF WASHINGTON

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WE'LL, THIS MEETING HAS BEEN APPROPRIATELY NOTICED PER WISCONSIN STATUTES.

WE'LL RISE FOR A MOMENT.

FOR SILENT PRAYER AND PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE, I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS, ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL.

ITEM NUMBER TWO ON THE AGENDA IS THE APPROVAL OF MINUTES FROM THE JUNE 19TH, 2024 MEETING.

DID ANYONE TAKE EXCEPTION TO THE MINUTES AS POSTED? SEEING NO ONE, THE MINUTES WILL STAND AS POSTED.

MOVING ON TO OUR DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION ITEMS. ITEM THREE, A STAFF ACKNOWLEDGEMENTS FOR COMMUNICATION.

SERGEANT ANGIE BLAIR AND IT SYSTEMS ENGINEER LUCAS CAR

[a. Staff Acknowledgments for Communications Sergeant Angie Blair and IT Systems Engineer Lucas Kehres]

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

SO, NORMALLY WHEN I COME UP HERE WITH A STAFF ACKNOWLEDGEMENT, IT HAS TO DEAL WITH SOMETHING THAT HAP SOME INCIDENT THAT EITHER HAPPENED IN THE JAIL OR NINE ONE ONE CALL THAT WAS HANDLED LIKE THAT, I THINK IT WAS COUPLE MONTHS AGO, OR A, AN INVESTIGATION THAT, THAT, UH, OUR STAFF DID A GREAT JOB ON.

THIS PARTICULAR ONE IS MORE ON THE ADMINISTRATIVE SIDE OF THINGS AND KIND OF THE, UM, WHAT HAPPENS BEHIND THE SCENES IN PUBLIC SAFETY.

SO I, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU'RE ALL AWARE, BUT THE WASHINGTON COUNTY RUNS THE PUBLIC SAFETY SOFTWARE SYSTEM THAT'S AVAILABLE TO ALL LAW ENFORCEMENT AGENCIES IN THE COUNTY.

AND IT'S COMPRISED OF, UH, DIFFERENT AREAS.

THERE'S A, IT'S CALLED PRO PHOENIX, AND IT'S COMPRISED OF THE RECORDS MANAGEMENT SYSTEM, RMS, AND THAT'S KINDA LIKE WHERE ALL THE REPORTS ARE HELD, ALL THE NAME FILES.

AND PART OF THAT IS THE CORRECTIONS, UH, SIDE SOFTWARE SIDE OF THINGS.

UH, THEN THERE IS THE, UH, THE WDA THAT IS, IT'S CALLED THE WIRELESS DIGITAL ASSISTANT.

THAT'S THE SOFTWARE THAT'S IN ALL THE SQUAD CARS.

THAT'S WHAT KIND OF CONNECTS THE, UM, THE SQUAD CARS TO OUR DISPATCH CENTER, TO OUR CAD SYSTEM.

AND THE CAD IS THE, THE FINAL PART OF THAT, THE, OF THE, UH, UH, PUBLIC SAFETY SOFTWARE SYSTEM.

AND THAT'S A COMPUTER DATA DISPATCH.

SO, UM, WHEN WE TALKED ABOUT THE DISCUSSION OF CONSOLIDATING DISPATCH CENTERS, UH, ONE OF THE, THE PROJECTS THAT WE'RE CURRENTLY WORKING ON IS, UH, HELPING OUT THE VILLAGE OF GERMANTOWN.

UH, BUT THERE'S A TRANSITION, UM, UM, TIME IN THERE WHERE, UM, THEY, THEY CURRENTLY HAVE, UH, PROCE, OR I'M SORRY, PRO PHOENIX, UM, AND WE WERE TRYING TO MIGRATE THEIR SYSTEM INTO OUR SYSTEM.

AND, UH, UM, IT, IT, IT, IT'S, UH, IT WAS A VERY, VERY TIME CONSUMING EFFORT, UH, TO DO THAT.

AND IT'S ACTUALLY NEVER BEEN DONE IN, AT LEAST IN WASHINGTON COUNTY BEFORE.

SO I WANTED TO ACKNOWLEDGE THE STAFF THAT WERE INVOLVED IN THAT PROJECT.

ONE WAS, UH, ONE OF THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE EMPLOYEES, ANGIE BLAIR.

ANGIE, IF YOU WANNA COME ON UP.

AND, UH, LUCAS, UH, HE IS, UH, UH, THE, ALTHOUGH HE'S NOT A SHERIFF'S OFFICE STAFF EMPLOYEE, I KIND OF CONSIDER HIM THAT HE'S KIND OF ASSIGNED TO THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE.

UM, AND, UH, BOTH OF THESE INDIVIDUALS WERE INSTRUMENTAL IN THAT, UH, THAT TRANSITION.

AND WHAT I WANNA DO IS JUST KIND OF READ AND KIND OF GOES THROUGH AND KIND OF TELLS THE STORY OF WHAT WAS ALL INVOLVED IN THAT.

SO IT'S A STAFF ACKNOWLEDGEMENT FOR, UH, SERGEANT, UH, ANDREW BLAIR AND SYSTEMS ENGINEER LUCAS CARRIS, WHEREAS COMMUNICATIONS SERGEANT ANDREW BLAIR AND SYSTEMS ENGINEER LUCAS CARRIS HAVE BEEN PROFI SYSTEM ADMINISTRATORS FOR THE WASHINGTON COUNTY SHERIFF'S OFFICE SINCE 2019 AND 2021 RESPECTIVELY.

AND BOTH ARE WELL-VERSED IN THE INNER WORKINGS OF PRO PHOENIX, MULTI JURIST, COMPUTER AIDED DISPATCHING AND RECORDS MANAGEMENT SYSTEM.

ON AUGUST 20 OF 23, THE GERMANTOWN POLICE DEPARTMENT FORMALLY REQUESTED TO JOIN THE WASHINGTON COUNTY SHERIFF'S OFFICE, PRO PHOENIX MULTI JURIST CADDEN RM S APPLICATIONS.

AND WHEREAS THE CO-SHARING OF CAD APPLICATIONS OF RARE MONUMENTAL UNDERTAKING THAT HAS NEVER BEEN ATTEMPTED IN WASHINGTON COUNTY, AND WHEREAS THE BEGINNING OF 2023 IN OCTOBER, SERGEANT BLAIR AND, AND, UH, UH, LUCAS BEGAN, UH, MEETING BIWEEKLY WITH GERMANTOWN PUBLIC SAFETY OFFICIALS AND PRO PHOENIX TO DISCUSS AND DEVELOP WORKABLE SOLUTIONS TO IMPLEMENT THIS PROJECT.

BY 20, UH, APRIL OF 2024, THESE ME MEETINGS, MEETINGS HAD ESCALATED TO WEEKLY, WHEREAS ANGIE AND LUCAS SPENT COUNTLESS HOUR, COUNTLESS HOURS OUTSIDE THESE MEETINGS, OFTEN REQUIRING OTHER IMPORTANT DEPARTMENTAL INITIATIVES TO BE TEMPORARILY PUT ON HOLD, WORKING THROUGH A METHODICAL VALIDATION AND TESTING APPROACH TO ENSURE GERMANTOWN'S DATA WAS IN CONFORMITY WITH W UH, WESTERN COUNTY'S MULTI JURIST FORMATS, AND IN A FORM THAT WOULD NOT ALTER OR DISRUPT THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE CURRENT SYSTEM CONFIGURATIONS, AUTHENTICATION PROCESSES, AND, UH, OTHER WORKFLOW PROCESSES, UH, WHEN THE SEVERAL GO LIVE DATES WERE PREMATURELY PROPOSED, PROPOSED BY PRO PHOENIX, UH, FOR THE OVERALL GOOD OF BOTH ORGANIZATIONS, BOTH, UH, THE SERGEANT AND, UH, AND LUCAS TOOK THE UNPOPULAR STANCE OF PUSHING BACK.

AND WHEREAS AFTER NECESSARY DATA HAS BEEN ENTERED AND FORMATTED TO FIT

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A REALISTIC IMPLEMENTATION DATE OF JUNE 3RD, 2024 WAS ESTABLISHED.

AND WHEREAS SEVERAL DAYS BEFORE THE SCHEDULED GO LIVE DATE, UM, LUCAS ENCOUNTERED UNFORESEEN ISSUES WHILE ATTEMPTING TO CONNECT A GERMANTOWN'S FLEET OF PUBLIC SAFETY COMPUTERS TO THE COUNTY SERVERS, INCREASING THE STRESS ON BOTH SIDES, AND THIS, UH, NEEDING THE, UH, NEED FOR ADDITIONAL SETUP HOURS TO BE SPENT ON JUNE 3RD, 2024.

UM, BOTH OF THESE INDIVIDUALS CAME TO WORK AT 2:30 AM TO OVERSEE THE GO LIVE PROCESS ADDRESS, UH, BY ADDRESSING ANY LAST MINUTE ISSUES THAT NEEDED TO BE MANUALLY REMEDIED AND PROVIDE KEY INFORMATION TO THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE COMMUNICATION STAFF THAT, AND WHEREAS AFTER THE, UH, BEING ON THE PHONE WITH GERMANTOWN OFFICIALS AND PUBLIC, UH, PRO PHOENIX REPRESENTATIVES FOR 12 PLUS HOURS WITHOUT A BREAK, LUCAS WAS FINALLY COMFORTABLE WITH THE TRANSITION PROCESS THAT WAS SUBSTANTIALLY COMPLETE, UH, WORKING AT A AND WORKING AT ACCEPTABLE LEVEL.

AND ON JUNE 5TH, SERGEANT BLAIR PHYSICALLY RESPONDED TO GERMANTOWN POLICE DEPARTMENT TO ANSWER QUESTIONS THAT EXPLAINED THESE PROCESS WITH, UH, WITHIN THE MULTI JURIS JURIS APPLICATION.

UM, THERE WAS KIND OF A SOURCE OF, UH, CONFUSION WITH SOME OF THE STAFF DOWN THERE.

AND WHEREAS, UH, THROUGHOUT THIS ENTIRE PROCESS, UM, BOTH INDIVIDUALS WERE ABLE TO SUCC SUCCESSFULLY MEET BOTH THE DEMANDS OF THIS PROJECT AND THE DEMANDS OF THEIR ROUTINE DUTIES, UH, WILL NEVER TURN ANYONE AWAY THAT NEEDED THEIR, UH, ASSISTANCE ON UNRELATED MATTERS.

UH, NOW THEY'RE FB RESULT, THEY COMMUNICATIONS SERGEANT ANGELA BLAIR AND WASHINGTON COUNTY IT SYSTEMS LUCAS CARAS, ARE HEREBY ACKNOWLEDGE FOR THEIR HARD WORK, DEDICATION, KNOWLEDGE, AND PROFESSIONALISM, AND PROFESSIONALLY UNDERTAKING THIS MONUMENTAL PROJECT BETWEEN THE WASHINGTON COUNTY SHERIFF'S OFFICE AND THE GERMANTOWN AND FIRE DEPARTMENTS, UH, DATED TODAY'S DATE.

SO, WITHOUT THEIR HELP, UH, I KNOW WE'VE HAD MAJOR DISCUSSIONS ABOUT CONSOLIDATION.

UM, IT'S, IT'S NOT QUITE AS EASY.

OH, WE'RE JUST GONNA DO DISPATCHING FOR HARTFORD OR FOR GERMANTOWN.

THERE'S A LOT OF ADMINISTRATIVE WORK TO DO.

AND WITH ALL THESE TWO INDIVIDUALS, UM, THAT PROCESS WOULD, UH, WOULD, IT WOULD JUST NOT HAVE HAPPENED.

SO, I, I WANNA JUST TAKE THIS OPPORTUNITY TO, TO THANK UH, THEM PUBLICLY AND LET YOU KNOW THAT THE GOOD WORK THAT THEY'RE DOING.

BUT TO BOTH OF YOU GUYS, THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

I DO APPRECIATE THE OPPORTUNITY TO, UH, TO BRING THOSE, UH, THOSE TYPES OF THINGS, UH, TO YOUR ATTENTION.

THANK YOU.

ANY COMMENTS FROM THE COMMITTEE? I HAVE SUCH ONE COMMENT, PLEASE.

UM, MY CAREER HAD BEEN ALWAYS WORKING IN ACCOUNTING, AND I'VE HAD SEVERAL OPPORTUNITIES TO HAVE THE UNPLEASANT TASK OF TRANSITION TRANSITIONING FROM ONE SOFTWARE TO ANOTHER.

IT IS A MONUMENTAL TASK, AND I CAN'T IMAGINE ALL OF THE, UH, THIS IS A OF, OF A MUCH HIGHER LEVEL THAN JUST ACCOUNTING SOFTWARE.

SO I COMMEND YOU FOR THAT.

'CAUSE IT SURELY IS NOT AN EASY PROJECT.

THAT'S TRUE.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

AGAIN, THE, THE DEDICATION OF, OF, UH, MR. CAR AND SERGEANT BLAIR IS, IT'S WHAT WE REALLY LIKE TO SEE IN WASHINGTON COUNTY EMPLOYEES AS AN AND, AND THAT EXAMPLE OF DEDICATION AND, UH, HELPFULNESS TO PARTNERS THROUGHOUT THE COUNTY IS JUST AWESOME TO SEE.

AND THANK YOU FOR BRINGING THAT TO OUR ATTENTION.

ITEM THREE B ON THE AGENDA, STAFF ACKNOWLEDGEMENT FOR RANDY TOTTER OF MEDICAL EXAMINER OFFICE.

[b. Staff Acknowledgment for Randi Todorov Medical Examiner Office]

THANK YOU.

GOOD MORNING, EVERYBODY.

UM, I'M HERE TO JUST RECOGNIZE ONE OF MY STAFF MEMBERS.

UNFORTUNATELY, SHE COULD NOT BE HERE THIS MORNING.

UM, SHE'S OFF AND JOINED A BEAUTIFUL VACATION IN EUROPE RIGHT NOW, BUT , UM, I THOUGHT IT WAS IMPORTANT TO JUST BRING THIS TO YOUR ATTENTION.

AS YOU CAN IMAGINE WORKING IN THE MEDICAL EXAMINER'S OFFICE, UM, THANK YOUS ARE NOT FREQUENTLY RECEIVED, UH, FROM FAMILIES.

MOST PEOPLE ARE, YOU KNOW, EXPERIENCING ONE OF THEIR WORST DAYS, UH, WHEN THEY INTERACT WITH US.

SO, UM, RANDY WAS LUCKY ENOUGH TO GET A A REALLY NICE THANK YOU FROM A FAMILY THAT SHE HELPED RECENTLY.

UM, AND I THOUGHT IT WAS JUST REALLY SPECIAL AND I WANTED TO READ IT TO YOU GUYS AND JUST GIVE HER A LITTLE BIT OF A SHOUT OUT.

UM, YOU KNOW, IT JUST SPEAKS VOLUMES ABOUT HER COMPASSION FOR THIS JOB AND, AND HOW SHE INTERACTS WITH THESE FAMILIES.

SO, DEAR RANDY, I'M SO GRATEFUL THAT YOU WERE THE EMMY ON SITE, THAT DREADFUL DAY, YOUR KINDNESS AND COMFORT YOU PROVIDED HAS HELPED US SO MUCH.

THANK YOU FOR BEING YOU.

UM, AND THIS WAS JUST A NICE LITTLE THANK YOU THAT THEY, THAT THEY MAILED INTO US.

SO, I MEAN, I THINK FOR A FAMILY TO TAKE TIME OUT OF THEIR, YOU KNOW, GRIEVING PERIOD TO WRITE, TO WRITE A THANK YOU, PUT IT IN THE MAIL, UM, IS IS JUST REALLY, REALLY NICE TO HEAR, AND ESPECIALLY AS, AS A SUPERVISOR FOR, FOR HER TO RECEIVE THAT.

I THOUGHT THAT WAS REALLY AWESOME.

SO THANK YOU, RANDY.

I HOPE YOU'RE ENJOYING YOUR VACATION.

UM, AND I HOPE TO, I HOPE TO GET MORE OF THESE, THESE THANK YOUS.

I THINK THAT'S JUST REALLY, REALLY COOL.

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ANY COMMENTS FROM THE COMMITTEE? I, I THINK IT'S WONDERFUL THAT, UM, THEY, IN THE TIME OF GRIEVING THAT SOMEBODY LOST, YOU KNOW, THEIR LOVED ONE, THAT OF ALL THINGS TO THINK OF, TO, TO SEND A NOTICE TO AN ME IS YEAH, DOWN THE LIST A LONG WAY.

SO YEAH, THE FACT THAT YOU RECEIVED IT, THAT'S GREAT.

YEAH, I AGREE.

SHE MUST HAVE, OH, SORRY, GO AHEAD.

I, I MEAN, I HOPE WE RECEIVE MORE.

I HOPE SO TOO.

, YES.

I MEAN, YOU LOOK AT SOMETHING LIKE THAT AND THE IMPACT THAT SHE MUST HAVE MADE IN THAT PERSON'S LIFE AT THAT TIME MUST HAVE BEEN EXCEPTIONAL.

SO THAT'S GREAT.

YEAH, DEFINITELY.

THANK YOU GUYS.

THANK YOU.

MOVING ON TO ITEM THREE C, DISCUSSION ABOUT CONTRACTED INMATE TRANSPORT CONTRACT.

AND

[c. Discussion About Contracted Inmate Transport Contract]

YEAH.

SO THE, THE NEXT TWO AGENDA ITEMS ARE KIND OF DISCUSSING, UM, I KNOW WE'RE, UH, WE'RE KIND OF IN THE MIDDLE OF THE, UH, THE BUDGET YEARS OF THE BIN AND BUDGET.

UM, BUT WE WANTED TO BRING A COUPLE OF THINGS TO YOUR ATTENTION, UH, WITH THE, UH, UPCOMING CONTRACTS FOR BOTH, UH, PRISONER TRANSPORTS THAT WE USE READY TRANSPORT FOR, AND, UH, OUR HEALTHCARE PROVIDER THAT WE USE IN THE JAIL.

AND WITH YOUR PERMISSION CHAIRMAN, I'D LIKE TO FLIP, UH, THE, UM, CAPTAIN OF OPERATIONS WHO'S GONNA ADDRESS THE READY TRANSPORTS.

HE'S, HE'S TIED UP A LITTLE BIT.

HE'S COMING ON HIS WAY OVER.

OH, OKAY.

SO I, READY TO PROCEED? YEP.

ALRIGHT.

UH, SO I'M GONNA LET HIM ADDRESS, UH, UH, SOME OF THE CHALLENGES THAT WE'VE HAD WITH THE, UH, UM, WITH THE, UH, CONTRACT, WITH THE PRISONER TRANSPORT.

UH, IF YOU'RE NOT FAMILIAR WITH THAT, UM, A LOT OF THE PRISONER TRANSPORT, WE, WE KINDA WEIGHED, UM, ADDING STAFF OR CONTRACTING OUT OUR PRISONER TRANSPORT WHEN WE HAVE PEOPLE THAT ARE PICKED UP IN, UM, IN OTHER PARTS OF THE STATE, EVEN COUNTRY ACTUALLY.

UM, IS IT WORTH US ADDING STAFF OR COULD WE DO IT CHEAPER WITH HAVING A CONTRACT IN PLACE, HAVING A PRIVATE COMPANY DO THAT.

AND, UM, THUS FAR IT'S BEEN, IT CERTAINLY HAS BEEN CONTRACTING OUT IS PROBABLY THE CHEAPER WAY TO GO.

UM, BUT AS, AS EVERYTHING, SOME OF THE COSTS ARE ESCALATING, SO I'M GONNA HAVE A CAPTAIN CHOICE KIND OF, UH, BRING YOU UP TO SPEED ON THE, THE STATUS OF THAT CONTRACT.

SO THANK YOU FOR THAT INTRODUCTION.

WELCOME CAPTAIN TISH.

THANK YOU.

SORRY, I'M LATE.

UM, JUST A LITTLE BACKGROUND ON OUR, WHEN WE STARTED CONTRACTING BACK IN 2012, WE STARTED CONTRACTING WITH LOCK AND LOAD, UM, AND JUST SOME FIGURES, UM, AS FAR AS THAT'S CONCERNED.

ABOUT HALFWAY THROUGH OUR CONTRACT WITH THEM, THEY SWITCHED OWNERSHIP, AND NOW IT'S CALLED READY TRANSPORT.

SO AS WE LOOKED AT OUR NUMBERS LAST YEAR, UM, FOR TRANSPORTS, 40% OF OUR TRANSPORTS OUT OF THE COUNTY ARE RELATED TO OPERATING AFTER REVOCATION AND OPERATING WITHOUT A DRIVER'S LICENSE.

SO WE APPROACHED THE DISTRICT ATTORNEY AND ASKED HIM WHETHER OR NOT WE COULD GEO RESTRICT THOSE WARRANTS, WHICH MEANS WE WOULDN'T GO OUTSIDE OF WASHINGTON COUNTY AND PICK THOSE WARRANTS UP, WHICH WOULD'VE REDUCED OUR TRANSPORTS BY 40%.

SO BEFORE WE COULD DO THAT, WE HAD TO PRESENT THAT TO JUDGES.

UM, THE SHERIFF REACHED OUT A COUPLE TIMES EARLY THIS YEAR, AND AGAIN RECENTLY, AND THE DISTRICT ATTORNEY ALSO HAS REACHED OUT, BUT HAS BEEN CRICKETS FROM THE JUDGES.

SO WE'RE NOT GONNA BE ABLE TO TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THAT.

SO, BUT AS IT STANDS, OUR, OUR CONTRACT THIS YEAR IS GONNA BE GOING UP 6%, UM, WHICH IS ABOUT $10,000 FOR A TOTAL OF 211,000, UM, DOLLARS FOR THIS YEAR'S CONTRACT.

WE ALSO LOOKED AT POTENTIALLY GOING BACK, AS THE SHERIFF SAID ABOUT GOING BACK TO, UH, TRANSPORTING WITH OUR PERSONNEL, LET A JUST FULL-TIME PERSONNEL FOR THREE DEPUTIES WOULD BE OVER $500,000.

SO WE'RE REALIZING ABOUT A SAVINGS OF 353,000.

SO JUST TO LET YOU KNOW THAT THAT CONTRACT IS GOING UP.

THANK YOU FOR THAT REPORT.

THANKS FOR THE UPDATE.

MM-HMM.

, ANY QUESTIONS FROM THE COMMITTEE? I HAVE A QUESTION, JUST PLEASE THE CURIOSITY IS THE, IS THE CONTRACT, UM, LIKE PER, PER TRANSPORT OR IS IT JUST AN ANNUAL CONTRACT? ANNUAL, UNLIMITED, OR ANNUAL BASED OFF THE AMOUNT OF TRANSPORTS.

OKAY.

AND THEN WHEN YOU SAY TRANSPORTS, SO IF SOMEBODY'S PICKED UP ON A WARRANT IN A DIFFERENT COUNTY THAT HAS A WASHINGTON COUNTY WARRANT, THAT'S WHAT YOU CONSIDER CORRECT.

A TRANSPORT? CORRECT.

AND THAT'S WHAT YOU WERE RIGHT.

POTENTIALLY TRYING TO REDUCE? YEP.

YEP.

AND THE OUT-STATE WARRANTS, WE ACTUALLY, THOSE ARE CHARGED BACK TO THE SUSPECT OR THE ARRESTEE.

SO THAT'S PART OF THE RESTITUTION THAT WE'RE ABLE TO GET BACK OUT OF FOR THE OUT-STATE TRANSPORTS, IS THAT SIMILAR TO OTHER COUNTIES THAT THEY HAVE A OUTSIDE, YOU KNOW, THE TRANSPORT FROM HERE YEAH.

THAT SOMEONE'S PICKED UP FROM, A LOT OF THEM ARE CONTRACTING OUT, AND THAT'S WHY YOU SEE THAT SAVINGS THERE, BECAUSE THIS TRANSPORT AGENCY IS ABLE TO, TO GET DIFFERENT WARRANTS IN THEIR VEHICLE AND TRAVEL AROUND THE STATE, THAT THEY DON'T HAVE TO GO AND JUST PICK THAT INDIVIDUAL UP.

THEY'LL HAVE MULTIPLE PEOPLE IN THEIR

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RIGHT.

OKAY.

I WAS JUST CURIOUS IN HOW IT WORKED.

THAT'S NICE.

WHEN THOSE INSTANCES COME UP, WHAT KIND OF, UH, TIMELINESS OR WHAT, I MEAN, HOW MUCH TIME DO YOU HAVE TO, TO WHEN YOU'RE NOTIFIED TO THE TIME YOU NEED TO PICK SOMEBODY UP? GENERALLY THERE'S A PERIOD OF TIME THAT THEY'RE ABLE TO GET THAT SCHEDULED, SO OUR TRANSPORT SERGEANT OR THE COURTHOUSE SERGEANT WOULD COORDINATE WITH THEM TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY'RE HERE ON TIME.

BUT GENERALLY IT'S A WEEK, TWO WEEKS THAT WE'RE NOTIFIED THAT OF THE COURT DATE.

VERY GOOD.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? I'VE GOT ONE, APPROXIMATELY HOW MANY ARE WE, ARE WE DOING LIKE A THOUSAND, 10,000? UM, I THINK IT'S AROUND TWO TO 3000 A YEAR.

I DON'T HAVE THOSE NUMBERS RIGHT WITH ME RIGHT NOW, BUT I CAN GET THOSE BACK FOR YOU.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR REPORT.

SURE.

GOING ON TO ITEM 3D DISCUSSION ABOUT JAIL MEDICAL CONTRACT.

AND FOR THAT WE HAVE CAPTAIN LEHMAN.

[d. Discussion About Jail Medical Contract]

SO, UM, I'M HERE TO, UH, TALK ABOUT THE JAIL MEDICAL CONTRACT.

UM, BUT BEFORE I GET INTO THAT, I JUST WANTED TO, UH, TOUCH BASE ON A LITTLE BIT OF HISTORY, UM, LEADING UP TO WHERE WE ARE AT TODAY.

SO I GUESS THE FIRST QUESTION THAT COMES TO MIND, UM, WHY DO WE NEED A JAIL? WHY DO WE HAVE A JAIL? UM, I'M SURE MOST OF YOU, UM, KNOW, KNOW THE ANSWER TO THIS, BUT, UM, I WILL JUST QUICKLY TOUCH ON THAT.

SO, WI WISCONSIN SHERIFFS ARE BOTH CONSTITUTIONALLY AND STATUTORILY OBLIGATED TO RUN A COUNTY JAIL.

UM, ARTICLE SIX, SECTION FOUR, THE WISCONSIN CONSTITUTION ESTABLISHES THE OFFICE OF THE SHERIFF AND PROTECTS THE SHERIFF'S POWER TO RUN THE JAIL.

UM, WISCONSIN STATUTE 59.27 REQUIRES THE SHERIFF TO TAKE CHARGE OF THE COUNTY JAIL AND THE PEOPLE IN IT AND TO KEEP THEM IN CUSTODY.

THE SHERIFF IS ALSO RESPONSIBLE FOR THE PRISONERS' CARE, TREATMENT SERVICES AND FOOD.

SO THAT'S KIND OF WHERE, UM, THE TREATMENT, UH, MEDICAL TREATMENT ASPECT COMES INTO PLAY.

UM, OBVIOUSLY, UM, WE'RE NOT ONLY OBLIGATED, UM, THROUGH STATUTE STATUTE, BUT WE'RE ALSO, UM, MORALLY OBLIGATED TO PROVIDE, UM, QUALITY MEDICAL CARE TO THOSE WHO ARE INCARCERATED.

UM, WISCONSIN ADMINISTRATIVE CODE DO C3 50 GOES INTO FURTHER DETAIL ON INMATE HEALTHCARE, BUT I, I WON'T, I WON'T DIVE INTO THE, THOSE DETAILS.

SO, HISTORY OF MEDICAL SERVICES IN WASHINGTON COUNTY.

UM, WE, I ALWAYS POINT BACK TO JUNE OF, OF 2014 IS KIND OF THE, UM, THE, THE POINT IN TIME WHEN OUR SERVICES CHANGED DRAMATICALLY.

SO PRIOR TO JUNE OF 2014, WE HAD COUNTY NURSES, THEY WERE ACTUALLY EMPLOYEES OF THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE.

UM, AND THEN WE CONTRACTED OUT WITH A LOCAL DOCTOR TO BE OUR MEDICAL PROVIDER.

THAT SYSTEM WORKED WELL.

UM, OUR HEAD NURSE AT THE TIME, YOU KNOW, UH, IN JUNE OF 2014, HAD 30 YEARS, UM, WITH THE COUNTY.

AND THAT SYSTEM WORKED, BUT OUR, THAT HEAD NURSE DECIDED TO RETIRE.

UM, AT THAT SAME TIME, THE DOCTOR THAT WE WERE CONTRACTING WITH DECIDED THAT HE WAS NO LONGER INTERESTED IN CONTINUING.

UM, WE KIND OF LOOKED AT ALL ASPECTS OF, OF OUR, UH, POPULATION AND, UM, HEALTHCARE AND WE, THAT, THAT WAS REALLY THE POINT WHEN WE WERE SEEING OUR POPULATION REALLY START TO INCREASE AND INMATE HEALTH STARTED TO DECLINE.

UM, SO WE KNEW THAT IT WASN'T, UM, FEASIBLE TO TAKE THAT PORTION OF, UM, MEDICAL CARE ON UNDER THE COUNTY UMBRELLA.

UM, WHEN YOU DO THAT, YOU TAKE ON ALL OF THE LIABILITY THAT GOES ALONG WITH IT AS WELL.

SO WE KNEW THAT THE BEST BEST ROUTE WAS TO CONTRACT THAT OUT.

SO WE DIDN'T HAVE A LOT OF TIME TO WORK ON THAT PROJECT.

UM, WE REACHED OUT TO ADVANCED CORRECTIONAL HEALTHCARE FOR A SHORT KIND OF EMERGENCY CONTRACT THAT TOOK US FROM JUNE OF 2014 THROUGH THE END OF THE, UH, END OF 2014.

AND IN THAT TIME, WE WENT TO, UH, REQUEST FOR PROPOSAL PROCESS AND A CH, UH, ADVANCED CORRECTIONAL HEALTHCARE DID END UP WINNING THAT, UM, BID, AND WE HAVE BEEN WITH THEM EVER SINCE.

SO WE'VE BEEN WITH ADVANCED CORRECTIONAL HEALTHCARE FOR, UM, THE LAST 10 YEARS.

LITTLE HISTORY ON THE CONTRACT, UH, ITSELF, UM, BACK IN 2015 WHEN WE, UM, NEGOTIATED OUT THAT CONTRACT, THERE WAS, UM, LANGUAGE THAT CAPPED THE ANNUAL INCREASES AT 3%.

UM, SO THAT WAS VERY IMPORTANT.

UM, THE CAP, UH, THE, THE, THE LANGUAGE, UH, WAS THE LESSER OF 3%

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SO, UM, THAT 3% WAS WHAT WE ALWAYS INCREASED AT BECAUSE THE, UM, THE CPI FOR HOSPITAL SERVICES WAS ALWAYS ABOVE THAT.

SO WE, WE HAD BEEN SAVING MONEY, UM, SINCE DAY ONE OF THAT CONTRACT.

UM, FAST FORWARD TO, UH, THE CONTRACT THAT WE WERE NEGOTIATING IN, UM, EARLY 2020, UM, JUST BEFORE COVID HIT, UH, A CH DID WANNA REMOVE THAT 3% CAP.

UH, WE FOUGHT TO KEEP IT IN AND, UM, IT PAID OFF GREATLY.

UM, AS YOU KNOW, COVID DID, UM, HAVE QUITE A IMPACT ON MEDICAL COSTS, UM, MOVING THROUGH THOSE YEARS.

SO, UM, WE REMAINED AT THAT 3% CAP.

SO ALL OF THIS WAS, WAS GREAT FOR AS LONG AS WE COULD RIDE IT OUT.

UM, WE'VE KIND OF GOTTEN TO THE POINT NOW WHERE WE CAN NO LONGER RIDE THAT OUT.

SO, UM, UNFORTUNATELY IT MAKES THE, THE CHANGE, YOU KNOW, INSTEAD OF US GRADUALLY CHANGING OVER THOSE YEARS.

UM, THIS IS GONNA BE A BIG CHANGE COMING UP.

SO, UM, ANOTHER THING THAT WE'VE KIND OF EXPERIENCED, UM, WITH, UH, WITH INMATE HEALTHCARE IN GENERAL, UM, IS MOST OF THE TIME YOU USE THE RFP PROCESS TO GET GOOD BIDS FROM NEW COMPANIES.

UM, WE'VE BEEN MONITORING THAT FOR INMATE HEALTHCARE VERY, VERY CLOSELY.

AND, UM, THE, THE, THE BIDS THAT OTHER COUNTIES ARE RUNNING INTO HAVE BEEN ASTRONOMICALLY HIGHER THAN WHAT THEIR CURRENT CONTRACTS WERE.

UM, SO IT, IT'S, IT'S BEEN A VERY DIFFICULT, UH, WE DON'T HAVE A LOT OF NEGOTIATING POWER AND, UM, THERE'S NOT A LOT OF, UH, A HOPE TO GET A REALLY GOOD, UM, A DEAL, UM, IF WE GO TO RFD ON IT.

SO WITH THAT BEING SAID, UH, WE HAVE SOME OPTIONS THAT WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO LOOK AT.

UM, OUR CURRENT CONTRACT, WE HAVE BEEN NEGOTIATING OUR CURRENT CONTRACT FOR OVER A YEAR NOW.

UM, WE HAVE BEEN OUTTA CONTRACT SINCE, UM, JUNE OF 2023, SO TECHNICALLY WE WE'RE STILL PAYING THAT SAME AMOUNT THAT WE WERE IN 2023.

WE DIDN'T EVEN GET INCREASE TO 3%.

UM, SO WE'VE GOT A LITTLE BIT OF SAVINGS THAT, UH, WAS BUILT INTO THAT AS WELL.

UM, THE REASON FOR THE LONG NEGOTIATION, A COUPLE OF DIFFERENT THINGS.

UM, UH, ADVANCED CORRECTIONAL HEALTHCARE HAS, UH, HAS, UH, SENT ME SOME PROPOSALS THAT I DIDN'T AGREE WITH EARLY ON.

IT WAS MORE CONTRACT LANGUAGE.

OUR RENEWALS WERE SUPPOSED TO CONTINUE TO FOLLOW THAT 3% CAP.

UM, THEY MADE IT CLEAR THAT THEY WERE UNABLE TO DO THAT ANYMORE, SO WE HAVE TO RENEGOTIATE THE WHOLE ENTIRE CONTRACT.

SO IT'S BEEN, UM, IT'S BEEN A STRUGGLE TO, UH, NEGOTIATE WITH THEM.

BUT, UM, THOSE TALKS ARE STILL ACTIVE.

AND ACTUALLY OVER THE PAST, PAST COUPLE WEEKS HERE, UM, I'VE STARTED TO MAKE SOME PROGRESS WITH THAT.

UM, SO OUR OPTIONS KIND OF MOVING FORWARD, THE, UM, FROM OUR PERSPECTIVE IS, UM, WE'RE, WE'RE STILL LOOKING AT STAYING WITH A CH IF POSSIBLE.

SO ANOTHER PIECE OF THIS IS THE STAFFING END OF THINGS.

UM, STAFFING CORRECTIONAL HEALTHCARE IS VERY, VERY DIFFICULT.

UM, WHEN WE FIRST WENT WITH A CH, IT TOOK US SIX YEARS BEFORE OUR STAFFING REALLY LEVELED OUT TO WHERE WE HAD A GOOD SITE MANAGER AND GOOD NURSES WORKING UNDERNEATH THEM.

UM, THAT WAS BACK IN 20 15, 20 14.

UM, NOW, NOW THE, THE, THE MARKET FOR NURSES IS EVEN MORE WIDE OPEN.

THEY'VE GOT A LOT MORE OPTIONS.

UM, USUALLY JAILS AREN'T THE PLACE WHERE NURSES ARE GOING.

UM, SO IT, IT'S DIFFICULT TO STAFF.

UH, WE'VE GOT DECENT STAFFING RIGHT NOW, SO THAT'S ANOTHER FACTOR WHY WE WOULD LIKE TO STAY WITH A CH, UM, AS WELL.

SO, UM, SO OPTION ONE, THE FIRST OPTION THAT WE WERE GONNA LOOK AT IS, UM, I'M TRYING TO GET THEM TO NEGOTIATE AN AT OR A THREE YEAR RENEWAL, WHICH WOULD BE LONGER THAN WHAT WE'D NORMALLY DO, BUT IF THEY CAN BUILD IN SOME SAVINGS FOR US, I THINK IT'D BE WELL WORTH, UH, WELL WORTH LOOKING AT.

UM, OPTION TWO WOULD BE TO NEGOTIATE A 18 MONTH RENEWAL.

UH, WON'T HAVE AS MUCH SAVINGS BUILT INTO IT, BUT IT'LL LEAVE US MORE FLEXIBILITY IF, UH, IF WE CHOOSE TO GO IN ANOTHER DIRECTION.

UM, WE CAN DO THAT IN 18 MONTHS.

AND THEN THE, THE SHORT TERM, IF I CAN'T COME TO GOOD TERMS WITH THEM, UM, THEN I'D BE LOOKING AT NEGOTIATING A ONE TERM, A ONE YEAR RENEWAL THAT'LL GIVE US ENOUGH TIME TO GO TO RFP AND, AND PUT IT OUT TO BID AND, UM, SEE WHERE WE GET FROM THAT.

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UM, I'M NOT SURE HOW DEEP YOU GUYS, UM, WANTED TO GET INTO THE NUMBER END OF THINGS.

UM, I DON'T THINK WE NEED TOO MUCH DETAIL, BUT ON A ROUGH PERCENTAGE, UH, BASIS, THAT MIGHT BE HELPFUL.

OKAY.

SO, UM, AGAIN, OUR CURRENT RATE IS REALLY THE 2023 RATE.

UM, SO THEY'RE, THEY FACTOR IN ABOUT A 4.4% INCREASE FROM 2023 TO 2024.

AND THEN ON TOP OF THAT, ROUGHLY, IT DEPENDS, UH, I GUESS I SHOULD BACKTRACK.

ONE OTHER DETAIL THAT WE'RE WORKING ON IS THE AMOUNT OF NURSING HOURS.

RIGHT NOW WE HAVE 128 HOURS, UM, FOR THE ENTIRE JAIL.

OUR POPULATION HAS, UM, NOW PLATEAUED OUT OVER 200, UM, INMATES, AND AN ADDITIONAL, UH, USUALLY EIGHT TO 10 JUVENILES.

SO, UM, THAT IS DRAMATICALLY UP FROM THE COVID YEARS.

UM, AND IT IS ALMOST BACK TO WHERE WE WERE PRE COVID.

UM, SO THOSE 128 HOURS ARE REALLY THE BARE MINIMUM THAT WE, WE CAN, YOU KNOW, JUST GET BY WITH WHAT WE HAVE GOING ON RIGHT NOW.

UM, IF OUR POPULATION CONTINUES TO INCREASE, WE'RE GONNA NEED MORE HOURS.

SO WE'RE LOOKING AT OTHER OPTIONS, UM, IN, UH, THAT WOULD INCLUDE MORE HOURS.

SO THOSE, THOSE JUMPS WOULD BE SUBSTANTIALLY HIGHER.

UM, IF, IF WE'RE LOOKING AT GOING FROM 128 HOURS TO SAY 208 HOURS, UM, YOU'RE TALKING, YOU KNOW, THAT'S A 62.5% INCREASE IN STAFFING HOURS, WHICH WOULD BE VERY, VERY HELPFUL TO US, UM, AND REDUCING LIABILITY FOR, FOR THE COUNTY.

BUT THAT, THAT'S ROUGHLY ABOUT A 78% INCREASE FROM WHERE WE'RE SITTING TODAY.

UM, UH, IF WE'RE TALKING ABOUT NOT INCREASING THE HOURS, IT, IT WOULD BE MORE IN THE RANGE OF, UH, THAT INITIAL 4.4% AND THEN MAYBE ANOTHER 12% ON TOP OF THAT.

UM, SO E EITHER WAY, IT, IT'S GOING TO BE A SUBSTANTIAL INCREASE.

UM, IT'S JUST KIND OF BALANCING OUT WHAT MAKES SENSE, UM, FISCALLY WITH, WITH, UH, GIVING US EVERYTHING THAT WE NEED, UM, TO REDUCE THAT LIABILITY.

SOUNDS LIKE YOU'VE DONE A LOT OF RESEARCH AND HAVE BEEN, UH, WORKING DILIGENTLY WITH, UH, THIS PARTNER AND, UH, THEY'RE STILL WORKING WITH US.

SO, YOU KNOW, OBVIOUSLY, YOU KNOW, YOU'RE, YOU'RE DOING A GOOD JOB WORKING WITH 'EM WHILE KEEPING THE INTERESTS OF WASHINGTON COUNTY RESIDENTS IN MIND.

ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS FROM THE COMMITTEE? UH, CHAIRMAN SCH LIFE, UH, THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.

I SIT ON A CLAIMS COMMITTEE FOR THE WISCONSIN COUNTY MUTUAL, AND, UM, THESE LIABILITY THINGS WITH JAILS COME UP A LOT.

SO IF WE'RE HAPPY WITH OUR PROVIDER AND, AND THINGS ARE STEADY, I STRONGLY SUPPORT STAYING WITH THEM.

UM, AND THE MANPOWER THING IS YOUR MANAGEMENT.

SO, UM, BUT THERE ARE THINGS BEHIND THE SCENES THAT, AS YOU KNOW, UM, LIABILITY'S A BIG THING, SO THANK YOU.

YEAH.

AND IN ADDITION TO THAT, UM, PRICE ISN'T ALWAYS THE MOST IMPORTANT PART OF VALUE, RIGHT? AND IF WE HAVE A PARTNER THAT'S WORTH MAINTAINING, UM, THAT, THAT COUNTS FOR A LOT TOO.

AND, AND WE TRUST YOUR JUDGMENT IN, IN, UH, BRINGING FORTH THE, THE BEST TRUE VALUE FOR THE COUNTY.

OKAY.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU.

MOVING ON INTO ITEM THREE E, THE RADIO PROJECT UPDATE.

AND FOR THAT WE HAVE CAPTAIN, UH, STEYER MORNING.

[e. Radio Project Update]

SO IF YOU REMEMBER, WE'VE BASICALLY GOT TWO CONTRACTS WITH RAYCOM.

ONE IS FOR THE CIVIL BUILD OUTS OF THE TOWER, AND THE OTHER IS FOR THE, THE INFRASTRUCTURE, THE RADIO EQUIPMENT.

BOTH OF THOSE CONTRACTS ARE ONGOING.

THE FIRST CONTRACT, THE CIVIL'S CONTRACT IS A $1.6 MILLION CONTRACT.

AND THE, UM, INSTALLATION OF RADIO EQUIPMENT IS A $12.7 MILLION CONTRACT WITH RESPECT TO THE CIVILS CONTRACT.

SOME, UH, UPDATES ON THAT IS THAT THE JOINTLY, UH, OWNED POWER THAT WE BUILT WITH OZAKI COUNTY, UH, THAT PAYMENT WILL BE DUE, UH, THIS YEAR.

UM, WE'RE LOOKING AT ABOUT 380,000, WHICH IS ABOUT 50,000 MORE THAN WHAT WE ANTICIPATED, BUT IT KINDA IS WHAT IT IS.

UM, THERE'S CERTAINLY SIGNIFICANT VALUE IN THAT IN, IN,

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UM, THE OTHER BIG THING IN THIS AREA IS OUR CURRENT, WE HAVE TWO TOWERS THAT WE CURRENTLY LEASE FROM AMERICAN TOWER CORPORATION, UH, THE AARON TOWER, AND THEN THE ONE UP IN FARMINGTON.

UM, IN LOOKING AT OUR CONTRACTS WITH AMERICAN TOWER, UM, BASICALLY TO GET OUT OF THOSE CONTRACTS, IT'S GONNA REQUIRE COUNTY BOARD ACTION AND IT'S WRITTEN IN THE CONTRACT, UM, SPECIFYING NON APPROPRIATION OF FUNDS FOR THE AGREEMENT, AND WE'VE GOTTA DO THAT 180 DAYS PRIOR TO ACTUALLY GETTING OFF THE TOWER.

SO KINDA USING A ROADMAP HERE, RAYCOM HAS TOLD US THAT OCTOBER 30TH IS GONNA BE OUR LAST DAY ON THOSE TOWERS, START DOING THE MATH BACKWARDS, I THINK, AND I, AND I'VE GOTTA CALL INTO OUR COUNTY ATTORNEY TO VERIFY THIS, BUT I THINK THAT MEANS WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO COME BEFORE THIS COMMITTEE IN MARCH TO GET A RESOLUTION FORWARDED UP TO THE FULL COUNTY BOARD IN APRIL TO VOTE, UH, TO NOT APPROPRIATE THE FUNDS FOR THOSE TOWERS, SEND OUR LETTER OUT.

I THINK THAT'S THE ROADMAP, UM, WE'RE GONNA TAKE AND KIND OF THE TIMELINE.

AND AGAIN, I, I AM WORKING WITH THE COUNTY ATTORNEY TO MAKE SURE WE DOT OUR I'S AND CROSS OUR T'S ON THIS, SO WE'RE NOT STUCK IN, IN THIS FOR MORE MONTHS THAN WHAT WE NEED.

SO THAT'S KIND OF A SIGNIFICANT DEVELOPMENT IN THAT PART.

UM, WITH RESPECT TO THE INSTALLATION OF THE RADIO EQUIPMENT, UM, THEY'VE GOT A PRETTY AGGRESSIVE BUT LONG TIMELINE IN DOING THEIR WORK, AND I THINK THEY'RE ON TARGET IN ALL ASPECTS, EXCEPT FOR THE DISTRIBUTION OF THE NEW PUBLIC SAFETY, PORTABLE AND MOBILE RADIOS.

THAT WOULD BE YOUR MOBILE RADIOS FOR FIRE AND POLICE.

UM, THE INITIAL, UH, TIMELINE SUGGESTED THAT, YOU KNOW, THOSE RADIOS WOULD BE HERE AT THE END OF JULY.

WE'D PROGRAM 'EM OUT AND THEN START INSTALLING THEM IN VEHICLES AND, AND DISTRIBUTING THEM TO OFFICERS AND FIREFIGHTERS SOMETIME IN AUGUST.

BUT, UM, THAT WAS ALL KIND OF CONTINGENT UPON, UM, RAYCOM PROVIDING US WITH ADDITIONAL WARRANTY, UH, BECAUSE COVERAGE TESTING WAS PUT PUSHED BACK TO NEXT SPRING, AND WE DIDN'T WANT TO GET THESE RADIOS PREMATURELY AND THEN NOT HAVE GOOD COVERAGE TESTING.

UM, SO WE KIND OF WERE WORKING ON A DEAL WHEREBY RAYCON WOULD PROVIDE US AN EXTRA YEAR WARRANTY ON THOSE RADIOS IF THEY PROVIDED THEM TO US EARLY PRIOR TO COVERAGE TESTING.

UM, THAT TOOK SOME TIME, BUT WE DO HAVE THAT NOW IN WRITING THAT THEY ARE IN FACT GONNA, UM, PROVIDE THAT EXTRA YEAR OF COVERAGE FOR THOSE RADIOS.

AND SO THOSE RADIOS HAVE NOW BEEN ORDERED, AND THE NEW TIMELINE IS THOSE RADIOS SHOULD ARRIVE HERE IN NO, IN SOMETIME IN NOVEMBER.

UM, THEY'LL BE REPROGRAMMED.

UM, AND THE DISTRIBUTION WILL PROCESS, THE PROCESS WILL PROBABLY START SHORTLY AFTER THE NEW YEAR.

SO AFTER JANUARY ONE, I THINK WE'LL BE READY TO, READY TO GO WITH THE DISTRIBUTION PROCESS.

SO THAT IS A, AND THE FIRE DEPARTMENTS AND POLICE DEPARTMENTS HAVE BEEN ADVISED OF THAT AS WELL, BUT THAT, THAT IS NEW AND, AND SIGNIFICANT TO WHERE WE'RE AT.

UM, THOSE PUBLIC SAFETY RADIOS, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT 704, UH, TOTAL RADIOS FOR PUBLIC SAFETY.

UM, THE REMAINING RADIOS ARE THE DPW RADIOS, AND THAT SCHEDULED REMAINS ON, ON, UH, IT REMAINS ON PACE.

SO ONCE THE NEW SYSTEM IS INSTALLED AND THE, UH, IT'S A HUNDRED PERCENT 700 SYSTEM, UH, WE WILL THEN START INSTALLING THE PPW RADIOS BECAUSE THEY'RE SINGLE BAND RADIOS, THAT'S WHY THEY CAN'T BE INSTALLED FIRST.

SO THEN THE PUBLIC SAFETY RADIOS CAN OPERATE ON EITHER SYSTEM.

THE DPW RADIOS WILL ONLY BE ABLE TO OPERATE ON THE NEW SYSTEM, SO WE NEED TO WAIT UNTIL THE NEW SYSTEM IS UP, UM, BEFORE WE CAN DISTRIBUTE THOSE RADIOS.

UM, WEST BEND PD AND SHERIFF'S DISPATCH COUNCILS ARE SCHEDULED TO BE UPDATED IN AUGUST OR SEPTEMBER OF 25.

UM, AND THE PROJECT WILL CONCLUDE IN LATE 25, UM, SOMETIME IN THE FOURTH QUARTER OF 25.

SO THOSE ARE KIND OF THE UPDATES.

AGAIN, I THINK THE BIG ONE WE NEED TO WATCH IS THAT, UM, THE TIMING ON GETTING OUT OF THOSE AMERICAN TOWER CORPORATION CONTRACTS.

THERE'S GONNA BE OUR NEXT, UH, THING WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO TACKLE.

SO THANK YOU FOR YOUR REPORT.

ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS FROM THE COMMITTEE? OKAY, YEAH, I HAVE ONE, UM, ON THE PAYMENT FOR THE TOWER IN THE OZAKI.

YEAH.

IS THAT A FINAL PAYMENT OR IS THAT GONNA NO, IT'S, IT'S, IT'S, IT'S A FINAL PAYMENT.

IT'S, UH, IT'S BASICALLY WE'RE SPLITTING IT 50 50 RIGHT DOWN IN THE MIDDLE, UH, FOR THE BUILD, BUT OZAKI HANDLED THAT BILL.

THEY CONTRACTED WITH RAYCOM TO HANDLE IT, SO THAT WASN'T OUR CONTRACT.

AND THEY'RE JUST GONNA SHARE THE, THE BILLS AND I, THEY HAVEN'T DONE THAT YET.

UM, BUT THE, OUR, OUR PROJECT MANAGER HAS TOLD US THAT IT'S LIKELY TO BE ABOUT 50 K MORE THAN WHAT WE THOUGHT.

UM, JUST FOR, YOU KNOW, DIFFERENT, THE TOPOGRAPHY OF THAT PARTICULAR TOWER SITE IS, IS CHALLENGING.

IT'S, IT'S ON A GREAT HILL, BUT IT'S CHALLENGING, AND I THINK THERE WAS SOME ADDITIONAL

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SO I HAVE ONE MORE QUESTION ON, ON THE TOWERS.

I THINK I, UH, SOMEWHERE ALONG THE LINE, THIS QUESTION WAS ANSWERED BEFORE, CAN WE RENT SPACE TO AN OUTSIDE FOR THE USE OF OUR TOWERS, UH, ON THE COUNTY OWNED TOWERS? THAT WOULD BE A POSSIBILITY.

UH, WITH THE ONE THAT WE HAVE ON TOWN OF AARON GROUND, ANYTHING, WOULD, ANY, ANY, I MEAN, THAT WOULD HAVE TO BE DONE IN CONJUNCTION WITH THE TOWN OF AARON, IF WE OPTED TO DO THAT.

UM, THE ONE IN OZAKI, IT'S, IT'S THEIR TOWER.

YOU KNOW, THEY WOULD BE RESPONSIBLE FOR ANY LEASES OVER THERE.

UM, OUR ONE IN KIOSKI, IT'S POSSIBLE AGAIN, BUT IT'S ON SHARED, IT'S ON MUNICIPAL GROUND, AND THAT WOULD BE, HAVE TO BE A SHARED DEAL WITH THE VILLAGE.

WE DO DO THAT IN RICHFIELD.

SO WE DO GOT, UH, CARRIERS ON THE TOWER AND RIDGEFIELD, AND AGAIN, IT IS SHARED BETWEEN THE, WAS THE FIRE DEPARTMENT, WHICH IS SOON GONNA BE THE MUNICIPALITY AND THE COUNTY.

SO, UM, I THINK THERE IS, THERE'S POSSIBILITY FOR DOING THAT, BUT IT'S GONNA REQUIRE, IT'S GONNA REQUIRE WORKING WITH OUR MUNICIPAL PARTNERS.

THANK YOU.

MM-HMM, , THANK YOU.

APPRECIATE YOUR REPORT.

MOVING ON TO THE NEXT ITEM, ITEM THREE F UH, PUBLIC SAFETY ANSWERING POINT.

GRANT,

[f. Public Safety Answering Point Grant Application Update]

YES.

SO, UH, JUST A QUICK UPDATE.

UH, WE CAME TO YOU GUYS, I THINK LAST TIME AND WE ASKED FOR PERMISSION TO APPLY FOR THIS GRANT.

THIS WAS THE FISCAL YEAR 25 PSAP GRANT.

IT'S TO COVER THE EXPENSES RELATED TO THE GERMANTOWN CONSOLIDATION.

IT'S PRETTY MUCH SOLELY RE UH, REQUIRED TO, UH, FOR THE GERMANTOWN CONSOLIDATION.

UM, I THINK AT THAT TIME, THE SHERIFF, UH, TOLD YOU THAT IT COULD BE UPWARDS OF THE 750,000, UM, IT WAS CLOSED, $740,000 IS WHAT WE'RE GONNA REQUEST.

UH, THOSE ITEMS CONSIST OF REPLACING OUR CURRENT BULLPEN, WHICH WAS BUILT 15 YEARS AGO WITH NEW LINEAR FURNITURE TO MATCH WHAT WE DID LAST YEAR.

UH, THE EQUIPMENT WITHIN THAT BULLPEN WILL JUST BE TRANSFERRED OUT, BUT IT'LL BE NEW FURNITURE.

UM, THAT FURNITURE COST IS ABOUT 157,000, UH, NEW ACOUSTICAL WALL PANELS.

UM, THAT LINE, THE, THE CENTER KIND OF TAKE THE NOISE BECAUSE OF THE INCREASED NOISE, ABOUT $1,400, UM, IN THE PROPOSAL FOR THE GERMANTOWN CONSOLIDATION WE HAD IN THERE TO, TO, TO PROMOTE ANOTHER SAR COMMUNICATION SERGEANT FOR THIRD SHIFT.

WE DON'T HAVE ANY COVERAGE ON THIRD SHIFT, BUT WITH THE ADDITIONAL PEOPLE WITH HARTFORD AND GERMANTOWN, IT'S CERTAINLY NECESSARY.

UH, THAT WILL REQUIRE SOME REWORKINGS OF OUR CURRENT SUPERVISOR'S OFFICE DOWN THERE.

UM, A NEW DESK AND REPOSITIONING TO TRY TO HAVE 'EM OVERLOOK THE FLOOR.

UH, THE NEW DESK AND THE FURNITURE IS $20,500.

UM, FOUR OFFICE CHAIRS, 4 4300, UM, EMPLOYEE LOCKERS.

OUR LOCKERS DOWN THERE FOR OUR COMMUNICATION PERSONNEL.

THERE'S 20, THERE'S SPACE FOR 20 LOCKERS.

THEY'RE PUT IN THE COMMUNICATION CENTER.

UM, AND LOOKING AT THE AVAILABLE SPACE THAT WE HAVE, THERE'S NO ROOM TO ADD ADDITIONAL LOCKERS TO THE OUTSIDES OF THOSE.

SO WE PROPOSE REPLACING THOSE LOCKERS.

IT'LL MAKE THE CUBICLES A LITTLE BIT SMALLER, BUT IT'LL INCREASE THE CAPACITY OF OVER 30 FOR FUTURE GROWTH.

UM, $18,300 PAPER POWER, UM, SUBMITTED A QUOTE TO US FOR ELECTRICAL AND, UH, WORK NEEDED TO PUT THAT NEW BULLPEN IN, UH, 26,400, UH, ROMAN TECH NECK.

UH, IT CABLING.

ONE OF THE THINGS THAT OUR IT DEPARTMENT SUGGESTED WAS THAT YOUR CAT FIVE CABLES ARE ALL VINTAGE 15 YEARS OLD, THAT IT'S PROBABLY WISE AS LONG AS WE'RE IN THERE TO CHANGE THAT OUT AND UPDATE IT.

UH, THAT WAS A $25,000 ISH, UM, THREE NEW BACOM, UM, VESTA 9 1 1 CONSOLES THAT WOULD TO FILL OUT THE EMPTY SPACES THAT WE HAVE THERE, ABOUT 69,400, UM, THREE NEW RADIO CONSOLES TO, AGAIN, FILL THOSE SPACES OUT.

UH, 262,000, THE NET CLOCK, THOSE ARE THOSE CLOCKS YOU SEE ON THE WALL THAT KIND OF KEEP TRACK OF EVERYTHING.

UH, WE'VE GOT ONE IN THE ENTIRE DISPATCH CENTER.

PROPOSED PUTTING ANOTHER ONE ON THE OTHER SIDE SO THAT THE OTHER BULLPEN CAN SEE IT.

UH, 13,000, UH, THIS WAS A BIG TICKET.

ONE.

WE CURRENTLY HAVE ANALOG LINES IN OUR DISPATCH CENTER, UH, THEIR REGULAR AT AND T ANALOG LINES.

LAST YEAR WE HAD THOSE LINES GO OUT AND HAD A REAL HARD TIME FINDING, WELL, IT WAS DAYS AND WE JUST, IT WAS PROBLEMATIC.

UM, AND THE RESPONSE WE GOT FROM AT AND T IS THAT THEY JUST DON'T HAVE ANY TECHNICIANS THAT WORK ON ANALOG LINES ANYMORE.

AND IT'S BECOMING LESS AND LESS EVERY YEAR.

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SO IT'S A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT THAN WHAT THE COUNTY HAS, UM, BUT THE EQUIPMENT TO MAKE THAT WORK.

UM, MOTOROLA'S GOT AN INTEGRATION SYSTEM, 45,500, AND CISCO HAS GOT AN INTEGRATION PIECE THAT'S ABOUT 13,200.

SO NOT A, NOT A CHEAP SWITCH.

UM, POWER PHONE IS OUR EMD LICENSES.

THIS IS, UH, WHAT OUR DISPATCHERS USE TO, WHEN A PERSON CALLS IN A MEDICAL EMERGENCY, THEY GO OFF A COMPUTER GENERATED THING TO BE ABLE TO ASK QUESTIONS AND PROVIDE AID OVER THE PHONE, CPR OR AGING, THINGS LIKE THAT.

UM, THIS LICENSING WOULD ACCOMMODATE THE ADDITIONAL GERMANTOWN DISPATCHERS 6,000, UM, ADDITIONAL COMPUTERS, CABLING, MICE, UM, COMPUTER RELATED NEEDS ABOUT 35,000.

UM, WE PUT IN THERE FOR, UH, THREE CELLULAR DEVICES.

UH, WE'RE GOING TO TEXT TO 9 1 1, UH, STARTING IN SEPTEMBER.

AND THE, THE, THE SYSTEM DOESN'T HAVE AN ABILITY TO TEXT IF AS LONG AS THE PERSON IS TEXTING WITH US, WE CAN KEEP THE CONVERSATION OPEN.

BUT IF THEY PREMATURELY, UM, VACATE THE SESSION, WE CAN'T CALL THEM BACK ON THE EQUIPMENT.

YOU ACTUALLY NEED A PHONE TO BE ABLE TO DO THAT, TO TEXT THEM BACK.

UM, AND IF THEY TEXTED YOU, THERE'S A POTENTIAL.

THEY DON'T WANNA MAKE A VOICE CALL BECAUSE SOMEBODY'S CLOSE BY.

SO THESE PHONES WILL GIVE US THE ABILITY TO BE ABLE TO TEXT THEM BACK AND TRY TO GET THEM TO REINITIATE THE CONVERSATION WITH US.

UM, ONE OF THE REQUESTS FROM GERMANTOWN PD THAT WE INCLUDED IN THIS GRANT WAS, UM, WHEN THEY CAN, WHEN THEY WENT TO THE MULTI JURIS SYSTEM WITH THE COUNTY, UM, SOME OF THEIR EQUIPMENT DIDN'T, WAS OF AN AGE OR OF A, A MODEL THAT DIDN'T WORK WITH THE NEW EQUIPMENT.

ONE OF THOSE THINGS WAS THEIR, UH, BOOKING ROOM CAMERA DOWN THERE THAT THEY USED TO BOOK LOCAL PEOPLE.

SO WE PUT THAT CAMERA IN THERE, THAT'S COMPLIANT WITH OUR SYSTEM, $2,495.

UH, ANOTHER GERMANTOWN REQUEST WAS, UM, FINGERPRINTING.

THE SCANNERS THAT THEY HAVE DOWN THERE, AGAIN, WE'RE COMPATIBLE WITH THEIR OLD SYSTEM.

THEY'RE NOT COMPATIBLE WITH THE COUNTY'S MULTI JURIST SYSTEM.

UH, THAT WAS A $24,500, UM, PROPOSAL.

UM, GERMANTOWN FIRE, UM, THEY'RE LOOKING TO, THEY CURRENTLY HAVE IMAGE TREND FOR THEIR SOFTWARE PROVIDER, AND THEY NEED AN INTERFACE TO THE COUNTY'S, UH, PRO PHOENIX, UH, DATABASE.

AND TO MAKE THAT WORK IS ABOUT 1300, UH, $13,400.

SO YOU ADD THAT ALL UP.

UM, WE COME TO A GRAND TOTAL OF ABOUT $740,987 IS OUR REQUEST.

UM, AGAIN, THERE'S NO, THERE'S NO GUARANTEE THAT WE'RE GONNA GET IT.

UM, AND IF WE DON'T GET IT, WELL, WE CAN PAIR THIS DOWN A LITTLE BIT.

UM, MANY OF THESE ITEMS ARE, WE ARE GONNA NEED TO DO TO BE ABLE TO MAKE THIS CONSOLIDATION, UH, WORK.

SO IF WE DON'T GET THE GRANT, WE WILL LIKELY BE BACK HERE ASKING FOR DOLLARS TO MAKE THIS WORK.

SO, FINGERS CROSSED, WE ALL HOPE WE GET THIS.

UM, THE COUNTY SHARE OF THAT $741,000, UM, WOULD BE ABOUT 111,000.

SO THAT WOULD BE OUR SHARE IF WE GET THIS GRANT.

THANK YOU.

ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE COMMITTEE SUPERVISOR? NEWMAN? I'M ASSUMING SOME OF THIS STUFF HAS BEEN IMPLEMENTED OR CHANGED ALREADY JUST BECAUSE OF THE TRANSITION AND SOME OF IT IS TO COME IN THE FUTURE.

IS THAT, SO FOR THE HARTFORD CONSOLIDATION, WE BUILT THAT, THAT SECOND BULLPEN WITH THE LINEAR DESIGN, WE DIDN'T, WHILE WE PUT THE FURNITURE IN, WE DIDN'T BUILD OUT ALL THE STATIONS WITHIN THAT FURNITURE.

WE ONLY BUILT OUT ENOUGH TO ACCOMMODATE THE HARTFORD CONSOLIDATION.

THE GERMANTOWN CONSOLIDATION IS GONNA REQUIRE ADDITIONAL DISPATCHERS TO BE ON DUTY.

UM, AND YOU GOTTA HAVE ADDITIONAL STATIONS TO BE ABLE TO ACCOMMODATE FOR THOSE DISPATCHERS.

SO MANY OF THESE COSTS, THOSE BIG ONES, THE RADIO COUNCILS, THE 9 1 1 COUNCILS, THOSE NUMBERS I GAVE YOU, UH, THAT'S DIRECTLY RELATED TO OUTFITTING.

THOSE THREE STATIONS THAT WE, THAT ARE CURRENTLY EMPTY, WE HAVE THE FURNITURE THERE, BUT WE DON'T HAVE THE STATIONS OUTFITTED.

YEAH, I GUESS, LET ME REPHRASE THAT.

SO, SO THE, THE GRANT IS FOR 750,000 AND IF WE, IT'S NOT, IT'S NOT A SITUATION WHERE, HEY, WE GET THIS GRANT, WE'RE GONNA DO THIS.

IT'S, WE'VE DONE THIS ALREADY.

IF WE GET THIS GRANT, WE'RE GONNA DO THE ADDITIONAL FINAL TOUCHES.

AND I GUESS I'M CONFUSED BY YOUR QUESTION TOO, MAYBE.

ARE YOU ASKING, UH, ARE WE DOING THE WORK REGARDLESS? WE'RE DOING THE WORK NEEDS TO BE DONE.