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UM, WE'LL CALL EVERYBODY'S HERE EXCEPT KEN AND, UH, MR. HARTWIG.
WE'RE EXCUSED AND WE WILL, UH OH.
THIS WAS POSTED PER, UH, STATE LAW.
I THINK THAT'S ALL I HAVE TO SAY.
RIGHT? WE'LL STAND FOR, UH, FOR A PRAYER AND I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE.
ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS.
ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL.
SINCE WE ARE MISSING THE MINUTES FROM AUGUST, UH, DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANY UPDATES FOR AUGUST OR SEPTEMBER? MEETING MINUTES.
WE'LL APPROVE 'EM AS NOTED AND WE'LL LOOK AT THE HIGHWAY QUARTERLY REPORT.
UH, SCOTT CERTAINLY WILLING TO TAKE ANY, ANY, ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU HAVE.
YOU'LL NOTICE THAT, UH, WE HAVE COMPLETED THE, UH, HIGH RISK ROAD PLANS FOR WASHINGTON COUNTY.
WE'LL BE STARTING TO CONTACT LOCAL MUNICIPALITIES FOR
[a. Highway Quarterly Report]
THAT.SAME THING WITH THE INTERSECTION SAFETY ANALYSIS.
WE GOT OURS COMPLETED FOR WASHINGTON COUNTY, WHICH WENT BEFORE THIS, UH, COMMITTEE AND, AND THE COUNTY BOARD.
WE WILL, AGAIN, REACH OUT TO LOCAL MUNICIPALITIES TO SEE IF THEY WANT US DO THEM FOR THEM.
AND THE LAST ONE, WHICH IS THE 2050 PLANS, UH, WE'RE STILL WORKING THROUGH THE TOWN OF FARMINGTON AND CITY OF HARTFORD.
SO, UH, HOPING TO HAVE THOSE COMPLETED BY THE END OF THIS CALENDAR YEAR.
CHAIRMAN SCH LIFE ON ONE PAGE, THERE'S A CREATE A HIGH RISK RURAL ROAD PLAN FOR THE COUNTY.
UM, AND THAT'S GOT A DUE DATE THAT'S ALREADY PASSED, EVEN THOUGH IT'S A DRAFT.
IS THAT JUST A MISPRINT? UH, THE COUNTY ONE'S COMPLETE ALREADY.
UM, I'M LOOKING TO SEE WHERE IT SAYS DRAFT ON THE FORM.
OH, 'CAUSE IT'S HIGHLIGHTED BLUE.
UM, IT MUST BE SOMETHING WITH GLITCH WITH THE SYSTEM.
WE'LL MOVE ON TO THE TRANSIT RIDERSHIP REPORT.
IF I MAY, UH, YOU'LL SEE THE NUMBERS, UH, THAT ARE ON THE REPORT, UH, PAGES AND A GRAPH.
UH, OF NOTE IS THAT, UH, THE TRANSIT MANAGER, UNFORTUNATELY, HE'S HAD A, A SEMINAR TODAY, SO HE'S NOT ABLE TO JOIN US.
UH, OVER THE PAST MONTH THOUGH, AFTER LAST MEETING, WE DID HAVE A MEETING WITH INTERFAITH CAREGIVERS.
[b. Transit Ridership Report]
IF YOU'RE NOT FAMILIAR, THERE AN AGENCY THAT ALSO PROVIDES RIDES TO ELDERLY, DISABLED INDIVIDUALS.AND WE THOUGHT, WELL, THERE WAS A RIDERSHIP GOING DOWN.
IS THERE RIDERSHIP GOING UP? AND LO AND BEHOLD, UH, THAT, UH, TURNED OUT TO BE CORRECT, THAT IN MAY OF THIS YEAR, THEY REALIZED THAT THEY WERE HAVING AN UPTICK IN, IN SERVICES AND HAVING A LITTLE MORE PROBLEMS KEEPING UP.
UH, AND SO, AS YOU MIGHT RECALL, WE, WE DID RAISE A FAIR SLIGHTLY ON THE ELDERLY DISABLED 50 CENTS A A RIDE LAST YEAR.
UH, AND OBVIOUSLY A, A FREE RIDE FROM INTERFAITH VERSUS A, A PAID RIDE FOR OUR SERVICES.
AND WE ARE, AS YOU KNOW, 24 HOURS IN ADVANCE AND A SHARED RIGHTS SYSTEM VERSUS, UH, THEIR RIDERSHIP.
SO, UH, WE DO A LITTLE BIT MORE OF THE, THE PARATRANSIT AND THE PEOPLE HAVING JUST MORE DISABILITIES BECAUSE OF WHEELCHAIRS AND STUFF LIKE THAT.
BUT IT WAS INTERESTING TO HAVE THAT CONVERSATION WITH THEM AND TO SEE WHAT THEIR RIDERSHIP IS IN THE COMMUNITY AS WELL.
AND, UH, THAT IS ONE THING THAT WOULD BE LOOKING FOR, FOR POTENTIAL PARTNERSHIP WITH THEM IN THE FUTURE TO SEE WHAT THAT MIGHT LOOK LIKE.
UH, AGAIN, WE'LL BE TALKING TO, AS WE TALKED LAST MONTH, THAT WE MAY BE TALKING TO OTHER MUNICIPALITIES.
WE'D LIKE TO HAVE THAT CONVERSATION WITH INTERFAITH CAREGIVERS AS WELL, UH, TO SEE WHAT SERVICES THEY PROVIDE AND HOW MAYBE WE BE ABLE TO SUPPORT EACH OTHER, UH, SINCE A LOT OF OUR CLIENTELE IS VERY SIMILAR.
IS THAT SOMETHING THAT YOU'RE STILL GONNA BE REVIEWING IN THE FUTURE? DO THE COST AND WE'RE,
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WE'RE ALSO LOOKING AT THE HOURS OF OPERATION, UH, CLOSING AT 10:00 PM WE'RE LOOKING AT POTENTIALLY CLOSING AT NINE.UH, WE HAD CHARLIE DO A IN DEPTH, UH, LOOK AT THAT, UH, THAT WOULD NOT NEED TO HAVE A PUBLIC HEARING, BUT WE WOULD LIKE TO BRING THAT BACK MOST LIKELY NEXT MONTH.
UH, WE SAW TO SEE WHO WAS WHO THAT ACTUALLY IS IMPACTING, IS IT ONE PERSON THAT TRIES EVERY DAY BECAUSE THEY'RE GOING TO WORK? UH, WE HAD ONE PERSON THAT WAS AFTER EIGHT 30, BUT NOW THEY MOVE SHIFTS, SO NOW THEY'RE NO LONGER THERE.
SO IT'S NICE THAT WE CAN SEE UNIQUE IDS.
WE DON'T KNOW EXACTLY WHO THE PERSON IS ALL THE TIME, BUT WE KNOW THE UNIQUE IDENTIFIER AND WE CAN TALK TO THE SHARED RIDE TAXI SERVICE AND WITH THEIR RIDERS, THEY KNOW WHO THE PERSON USUALLY IS.
SO WE ACTUALLY DO THAT LEVEL OF DETAIL AND WE'RE LOOKING AT IF WE DO MAKE A CHANGE, WHO ARE WE ACTUALLY IMPACTING ON THAT CHANGE? AND YOU CAN SEE THAT, YOU KNOW, AFTER 8:00 PM UH, WE HAVE VERY FEW RIDES ON THAT SERVICE, BUT WE'RE PAYING FOR THE SERVICE TO BE OUT THERE AND AVAILABLE TO THE PUBLIC.
AND SO IF IT IS FOR MORE FOR ELDERLY, DISABLED STUDENTS THAT KIND OF FLARE, WE'RE NOT IMPACTING SOMEBODY, THAT MIGHT BE A WAY TO SHIFT THOSE HOURS TO MORE PEAK TIMES, UH, DURING THE DAY.
MAYBE NOT REDUCE THE SERVICE, BUT HOPEFULLY IMPROVE THE SERVICE.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? AND WHEN, WHEN I POINTED AT THAT THREE OR LESS, YOU CAN SEE THAT ON THE, THE GRAPH.
UM, I DUNNO IF MARY CAN PUT MY SCREEN UP THERE, BUT, UH, THAT SECOND PAGE OF THE RIDERSHIP REPORT, THE GRAPH SHOWS, UH, WHAT'S OUT THERE.
SO THAT'S ABOUT THREE DRIVERS THAT ARE OUT THERE.
ACTUALLY, IT'S NOT THE NUMBER OF PEOPLE DOING IT, BUT IT'S THREE DRIVERS THAT ARE ON THAT ROAD AT THAT TIME.
PRETTY REDUCED AFTER 8:00 PM RIGHT.
WE'LL MOVE TO, UH, 2024 RESOLUTION COUNTY AID BRIDGE IN CULVERT FOR TOWN OF BARTON.
I'LL NEED A MOTION IN A SECOND AND DON'T JUMP ALL AT ONCE GUYS.
I NO, I, I
DID YOU WANNA TOUCH ON THIS, SCOTT? I WOULD.
I KNOW THE COMMITTEE HAS SEEN THESE BEFORE AS WELL AS THE
[c. 2024 Resolution: County Aided Bridge and Culvert Replacement – Town of Barton]
BOARD.UH, THIS ONE, THE UNIQUENESS OF THIS ONE IS THAT, UH, WE DON'T CURRENTLY HAVE THE FUNDS AVAILABLE RIGHT NOW.
AND I'M SURE YOU'RE ALL FAMILIAR.
WE HAVE A TWO YEAR BUDGET CYCLE, UH, GOING FORWARD.
SO YOU ALREADY APPROVE THE FUNDS FOR NEXT YEAR AS PRIOR TWO YEAR BUDGET CYCLE, BUT WE PHYSICALLY DON'T HAVE THE, THE CASH, YOU KNOW, IN OUR ACCOUNT.
AND SO THE TOWN OF BARTON, BECAUSE OF THE CONDITION THESE CULVERTS ARE LOOKING AT REPLACING THEM THIS YEAR WITH THE CONDITION THAT THEY WOULD BE REFUNDED, YOU KNOW, NEXT YEAR AS PART OF THAT PROJECT.
SO, AND WE GOT A HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS COMING IN.
WE GOT ABOUT $4,000 IN OUR ACCOUNT.
SO AGAIN, WE'RE USING GOOD STEWARDS AS A TAXPAYER'S MONEY, GETTING IT DOWN AS, AS FAR AS WE CAN.
AND, BUT FOR NEXT YEAR, UH, THEY'LL BE USING, UH, 65% BASICALLY OF OUR FUNDING FOR NEXT YEAR RIGHT AWAY IS TO BE SPOKEN FOR.
SO, AND WE'LL, WE'LL LOOK AT THIS FOR THE FOLLOWING YEARS AFTER THAT, UH, AND MAKE SURE COMMUNITIES ARE OUT THERE AND WE GIVE THEM EVERY OPPORTUNITY TO LET US KNOW WHAT'S COMING FOR THE NEXT TWO YEARS.
BUT, UH, SOME TOWNS, IT'S A CHALLENGE TO KNOW WHAT'S GONNA HAPPEN UNTIL YOU SEE A HOLE IN THE ROAD.
UH, SO THERE'S POSSIBILITY OF A FUND TRANSFER MAYBE FOR NEXT YEAR? UH, TYPICALLY NO.
'CAUSE THIS IS ITS OWN LITTLE ACCOUNT.
SO REMEMBER THIS IS A, THIS IS A, IT'S NOT COUNTY FUNDS.
IT'S A, IT'S A TAX THAT'S PUT ON TOWN RESIDENTS TO HELP OTHER TOWN RESIDENTS.
IT'S A SEGREGATED FUND THAT'S AT THE COUNTY.
SO, UH, WE CAN'T USE IT FOR COUNTY ROADS OR A VILLAGE OR CITY STREETS OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT.
IT'S SEGREGATED JUST FOR TOWN CULVERT AND BRIDGE AID.
I ACTUALLY ASKED ABOUT THIS IN OUR AGENDA REVIEW THE OTHER DAY.
AND UM, THAT'S A TAX THAT PUTS ON THE TOWNSHIP RESIDENCES.
AND IT AMOUNTS TO LIKE A PENNY A THOUSAND.
SO IT'S, IT'S LESS THAN A DOLLAR FOR MOST PEOPLE AND, BUT WE'RE LOOKING, WE CAN'T CHANGE IT FOR NEXT YEAR.
IT'S TOO LATE IN THE, IN THE CYCLE, BUT WE'RE DEFINITELY GONNA BE LOOKING AT IT FOR THE NEXT YEAR.
MAYBE GET THAT WHERE THE BRIDGE FUND IS UP, WHERE IT SHOULD BE AGAIN.
WE PROBABLY HAVEN'T BEEN KEEPING UP THEN.
WELL, AND SCOTT WILL SHARE WITH YOU THAT NOT EVERYBODY IS INSPECTING THEIR CULVERTS.
SO, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE SURPRISES LIKE THIS COME UP.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? SEEING NONE.
I MEAN WE'RE NOTHING, WHAT ARE WE VOTING? I GUESS WHAT THERE, I DON'T SEE IS THERE IT IS A RESOLUTION SHOULD BE ONE IN THE PACKET.
UH, PAGE 13 OF YOUR PACKET SHOULD BE THE RESOLUTION.
IT, IS IT NOT IN THE, THE LIVE SECTION? IS IT THE FIRST? NO, IT'S UP ON THE SCREEN RIGHT NOW.
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YEAH, I PULLED UP THE FULL PACKET.SO IT'S ON THERE FOR 13, BUT I DON'T KNOW IF YOU'RE IN THE LIVE MEETING SECTION SHOULD BE IN THERE THOUGH.
AND WE TYPICALLY PAY THIS AFTER THE WORK'S DONE.
CORRECT? WE ONLY PAY IT AFTER THE WORK IS COMPLETED PROPERLY, SO, CORRECT.
BUT AS HE SAID, THIS ONE'S GETTING PAID NEXT YEAR.
CORRECT? IT'S, I I FOUND IT AND YOU'RE GOOD THEN.
ANY OPPOSED? AND THE MOTION CARRIES.
AND THE NEXT ITEM IS RESOLUTION, UH, 2024 RESOLUTION ORDER TO CONVEY RIGHT AWAY TO WIS.
UH, I NEED A MOTION A SECOND AGAIN, I'LL SECOND SUPERVISOR MELIK.
UH, DID YOU WANNA TOUCH BASE ON THIS ONE AS WELL, SCOTT? UH, YES.
[d. 2024 Resolution: Order to Convey Right of Way to WisDOT ]
UH, YOU'LL BE INTERESTED TO KNOW, AND I FIND THIS INTERESTING.SO BACK IN THE 1950S WHEN THEY WERE LIKE PREPARING TO PUT PROBABLY 41 IN, WHICH WASN'T THERE BEFORE THAT, UH, THE STATE OF WISCONSIN WASN'T ABLE TO OBTAIN RIGHT OF AWAY.
AND SO THEY HAD A LOT OF THE LOCAL, THEY HAD TO HAVE THE LOCAL COUNTIES ACTUALLY OBTAINED THEIR RIGHT OF WAY ON BEHALF OF THE STATE OF WISCONSIN.
AND SO BY DOING THAT THERE, THERE'S ALSO A TOWN, EXCUSE ME, A STATE STATUTE 84.09 THAT SAYS WHENEVER THEY WANT THEIR RIGHT OF WAY BACK, WE JUST GOTTA DEED IT BACK TO THEM.
THEY DID AN ORDER FOR US TO CONVEY THAT RIGHT OF WAY BACK TO THEM.
THE GOOD NEWS IS ONE OF THOSE LOCATIONS, UH, NEAR THE VILLAGE OF SLINGER AT 1 44 AND 41, UH, THEY'RE DOING IT BECAUSE THEY WERE MOST LIKELY CONTACTED BY THE LANDOWNERS AND PUTTING THAT LAND BACK IN THE TAX ROLL, UH, JUST LIKE WASHINGTON COUNTY IS DOING, AS YOU, UH, HEARD RECENTLY AT THE COUNTY BOARD.
AND SO THE VERY FIRST PROPERTY, UM, IS AT THAT INTERSECTION, 1 44 AND 41, AND THE STATE WILL THEN TURN IT BACK OVER TO THOSE CITIZENS.
I'M SURE THEY'LL SELL IT BACK TO THOSE, UH, BUSINESSES THAT ARE THERE.
SO THAT'S A, A REAL POSITIVE THING FOR, FOR WASHINGTON COUNTY.
UH, SO THEY SENT US THAT ORDER AND AT THE SAME TIME, UH, WE WERE WORKING WITH, UM, DAVID J. FRANK LANDSCAPING, WHICH IS ON ONE ON 41 AND FRES STATE ROAD DOWN TO THE VILLAGE OF GERMANTOWN.
UH, THEY WERE HAVING ISSUES TRYING TO GET THEIR SIGN REDONE, UH, GOING THROUGH THE STATE AND THIS PERMITTING PROCESS, UH, AS YOU CAN IMAGINE, THEN THE STATE FOUND OUT THAT WE DON'T ACTUALLY OWN THAT RIGHT AWAY, HAVE THE COUNTY GIVE US THE PERMIT.
WE'RE LIKE, WELL, IT'S IN OUR NAME, BUT IT'S REALLY NOT OURS BECAUSE 41 AND FRE STATE ROAD, IT'S EITHER THE VILLAGE AND THEY WERE GOING BACK AND FORTH FOR ANOTHER COUPLE WEEKS AND WE JUST GAVE 'EM THE PERMIT BECAUSE THEY NEEDED TO GET STUFF GOING BEFORE THE WINTER.
UM, BUT TO CLEAN THAT AREA UP SO THEY DON'T HAVE THAT CONFUSION IN THE FUTURE.
AS YOU CAN SEE, THEIR DRIVEWAY ISN'T THAT, THAT LITTLE UP ON THE SCREEN? I KNOW IT'S, UH, HARD TO SEE, BUT THEIR DRIVEWAY'S THERE TOO, SO WE JUST WANNA MAKE SURE IT GETS BACK IN THE RIGHT HANDS.
AND SO WE'D LIKE TO CONVEY THAT ONE ALSO BACK TO THE STATE.
UH, SO THERE'S NO FU FUTURE CONVER CONFUSION ABOUT WHO'S ACTUALLY THE PERMITTING AUTHORITY OUT THERE.
UH, YOU CAN IMAGINE A CITIZEN GOING TO THE STATE SAY IT'S A COUNTY TO COUNTY GOING.
UH, IT'S A TOUGH SITUATION FOR THE, TO THE LANDOWNER TO BE IN.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? SEEING NONE ALL APPROVED VOTE.
ANY OPPOSED? AND THAT MOTION CARRIES.
AND THE LAST ITEM, 2024 ORDINANCE AMENDS SECTION 200.04 OF THE CODE RELATING TO SPEED ZONES ON COUNTY LOOKS LIKE T BUT IT'S, ISN'T IT SUPPOSED TO BE CBSS? I NEED A MOTION IN A SECOND.
[e. 2024 Ordinance: Amend Section 200.04 of the code; relating to: Speed Zones on County Trunk Highways]
MOTIONS AND BOL.UH, IS THIS, UH, SECOND? UH, THANK YOU.
UH, YOU MAY RECALL THAT THIS IS, UH, A COUNTY HIGHWAY S UH, CAME UP, UH, AS PART OF THE WHOLE COUNTY HIGHWAY W EXTENSION CONVERSATION SEVERAL YEARS BACK.
UH, WE HAVE NOW COMPLETED THE INTERSECTION OF HIGHWAY S AND R.
IF YOU LOOK UPON YOUR SCREEN, THAT IS THE, THE LEFT HAND SIDE OF THE SCREEN, UH, IS GONNA BE COUNTY HIGHWAY R RUNS NORTH AND SOUTH HIGHWAY S RUNS EAST AND WEST.
AND THIS IS STATE HIGHWAY 1 75 THAT RUNS ON, ON THE ANGLE.
AND TO MAKE SAFETY IMPROVEMENTS OUT THERE, YOU CAN SEE WE, INSTEAD OF THIS COMING AT A SKEW OR A STRAIGHT LINE, WE CURVED INTO THE INTERSECTION SO PEOPLE CAN BE AT MORE OF A 90 DEGREE INTERSECTION, MAKING IT SAFER.
AT R WE LOWERED THE HILL AT R SO YOU CAN SEE ALL THE WAY BACK TO 1 75, UH, CUTTING BACK THE HILL A LITTLE BIT.
ALSO ADDING TURN LANES AND BYPASS LANES AT, AT BOTH INTERSECTIONS.
SO WHEN YOU'RE MAKING A, A TURNING MOVEMENT, SOMEONE COMING BEHIND YOU, UH, YOU CAN GET OUT OF THE LANE OF MAIN TRAFFIC OR SOMEONE ELSE CAN GO AROUND YOU IF YOU ARE IN A LANE LANE OF TRAFFIC, MAKING A TURN MOVE.
UH, WE WERE REQUESTED, UH, BY AT LEAST ONE RESIDENT, IF NOT MULTIPLE RESIDENTS BETWEEN R AND 1 75, UH, TO LOWER SPU LIMIT DOWN TO 35 MILES PER HOUR.
YOU'LL SEE IN THE, IN THE PACKET, UH, THIS IS ONLY 700 FEET BETWEEN THE TWO INTERSECTIONS.
UH, AND YOU'LL HEAR WHY THAT'S
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IMPORTANT LATER ON.AND YOU GOT STOP CONDITIONS AT BOTH INTERSECTIONS OF, UH, BY OUR AND AT 1 75.
AND SO WE APPLIED TO THE STATE OF WISCONSIN.
I CONTACTED THEM ABOUT LOWERING THE SPEED LIMIT BECAUSE ANYTIME WE GO FROM 55, THE WASHINGTON COUNTY BOARD CAN GO FROM 55 DOWN TO 45 WITHOUT DDOT INVOLVEMENT, IF YOU WANT TO GO LOWER THAN 45 ON A RURAL HIGHWAY LIKE THIS ONE, YOU HAVE TO GET DOT APPROVAL.
I CONTACTED THEM, UH, VIA PHONE TO SEE IF WE COULD GET THAT APPROVAL AND UH, THEY TURNED IT DOWN VIA PHONE.
UH, SO I FILLED OUT THE FORM WORK TO GET OFFICIAL RESPONSE FROM THEM AND, UH, WE WE'RE WAITING ON THAT RESPONSE.
UH, AS WE KNOW, WE HOPEFULLY HAVE THAT RESPONSE BEFORE THE COUNTY BOARD.
UM, THERE ARE RULES AND REGULATIONS THAT THE STATE HAS FOR SPEED LIMITS.
FOR INSTANCE, ONE IS A SPEED ZONE'S GOTTA BE AT LEAST A THOUSAND FEET LENGTH.
WE DON'T HIT THAT REQUIREMENT.
THERE SHOULD BE GREATER THAN FOUR DRIVEWAYS IN THAT STRETCH.
THERE'S ONLY THREE, YOU COULD SAY THAT DRIVEWAY.
AND THE FARM HAS TWO BECAUSE THERE'S A LITTLE BIT OF CURBING BETWEEN THERE, BUT THAT'S STILL FOUR.
UH, SO DON'T READ THE REQUIREMENTS TO GO DOWN TO 35 MILES PER HOUR ACCORDING TO THEIR STANDARDS, BUT THEY ARE LOOKING AT IT.
UH, PERHAPS THEY'LL BE, UH, MAGNANIMOUS AND, AND PROVIDE THAT, UH, PERHAPS NOT.
BUT, UH, THE EFFORT IS THERE, UH, TO PROVIDE THAT SPEED LIMIT, UH, TO THEM.
UH, WHAT YOU'LL SEE ON YOUR, ON THE SHEET OF PAPER IN FRONT OF YOU, AND I'LL PUT PULL IT UP HERE, IS, UH, ONE THING THAT WE DID WAS A, A SPEED STUDY OUT THERE TO SEE, WELL, WHAT IS THE TRAFFIC ACTUALLY GOING AT? IT'S BEEN MY CONTENTION BEFORE WE STARTED CONSTRUCTION THAT PEOPLE WILL NOT BE ABLE TO GO 55 MILES AN HOUR BETWEEN THAT STRETCH BECAUSE YOU HAVE TO STOP AT BOTH LOCATIONS OR MAKE A, A TURNING MOVEMENT TO GET THERE.
UH, IN FRONT OF YOU, YOU'LL SEE A SPEED STUDY AND, AND WHAT WE DO, AND IT, WHEN I SAY A SPEED STUDY IS WE PUT TUBES DOWN ON THE GROUND, PNEUMATIC TUBES AND CARS DRIVE OVER THEM AND MOTORCYCLES AND TRUCKS.
AND THAT, UH, BY KNOWING THE SPACING AND THE PRESSURE AND STUFF LIKE THAT, IT CAN DETECT HOW MUCH SPEED THEY'RE GOING BETWEEN THOSE TWO SETS OF TUBES.
YOU MIGHT HAVE SEEN THEM IN OTHER AREAS.
WE CAN GET TRAFFIC VOLUMES WITH THAT.
AND WHAT TYPES OF VEHICLE? IT'S CALLED CLASSIFICATION.
UH, YOU'LL SEE, AND I'LL, I'LL TRY TO GO THROUGH THE FIRST PAGE, UH, WITH YOU.
YOU SEE IT'S A 24 HOUR SPEED TEST THAT WAS TAKEN ON 10 15 STARTING AT 8:00 AM IN THE UPPER LEFT HAND CORNER.
AND SO EVERY HOUR IT'S RECORDING HOW MANY VEHICLES WENT THROUGH THAT STRETCH OF ROADWAY.
AND AGAIN, IT WAS PUT RIGHT IN THE MIDDLE OF THAT STRETCH OF ROADWAY BETWEEN THE TWO INTERSECTIONS.
SO YOU SEE AT, AT 8:00 AM THERE WAS 47 VEHICLES THAT WENT IN BETWEEN EIGHT AND NINE.
UH, TWO WERE GOING ZERO TO 15 MILES AN HOUR.
ONE WAS GOING 15 TO 20 AND SO ON AND SO FORTH.
YOU KINDA SEE THE, THE PROGRESSION DOWN BELOW AT THE BOTTOM YOU SEE THE TOTALS.
THERE WAS ROUGHLY, WELL THERE WAS 1,168 VEHICLES THAT WENT THROUGH IN THAT 24 HOUR STRETCH.
THEN YOU CAN SEE HOW MANY PE HOW MANY VEHICLES WERE GOING AT WHAT SPEED, UH, DOWN BELOW.
AND YOU'LL SEE ON THAT THAT THERE WAS NO VEHICLES THAT WERE GOING 45 TO 50 OR GREATER DURING THAT TIME.
AND BEING AN UNPOSTED ROADWAY, IT'S 55 MILES AN HOUR IS A TECHNICALLY LEGAL SPEED LIMIT.
BUT YOU CAN SEE THAT, THAT NO VEHICLES WERE GOING OVER THAT AND ONLY 10, WERE GOING BETWEEN 40 AND 45 MILES AN HOUR.
UH, BELOW THAT YOU'LL GET A WHOLE BUNCH OF DATA.
'CAUSE THAT'S WHAT THIS COMPUTER PROGRAM WAS JUST SPLIT OUT.
SO YOU SEE THE AVERAGE MILE PER HOUR WAS 29.9.
MY GUESS IS BECAUSE WE DID HAVE TO PUT IT NEAR SOME DRIVEWAYS BECAUSE THIS STRETCH, THAT WAS PROBABLY PEOPLE TURNING INTO THEIR DRIVEWAYS.
UM, AND THEN THE MAXIMUM WAS 43 AND A HALF MILES PER HOUR.
UH, THE PACE RANGE IS IMPORTANT BECAUSE, UH, YOU CAN SEE THAT MOST PEOPLE, 77% WERE GOING BETWEEN 25 AND 35 MILES AN HOUR.
THE PERCENTILE SPEED, YOU'LL SEE AGAIN RIGHT BELOW THAT.
SO 90% OF THE TRAVELING PUBLIC WAS GOING 35.3 MILES AN HOUR.
UH, BELOW THAT, UH, YOU'LL SEE THE SPEED EXCEEDS HOW MANY PEOPLE ARE SPEEDING EVERYONE.
SO THERE'S 11% THAT ARE GOING OVER 35 MILES AN HOUR.
AND THEN OBVIOUSLY THE ZEROS ABOVE THAT, WE CAN CERTAINLY GO THROUGH THE NEXT PAGE.
I DON'T WANNA GO THROUGH ALL THE DATA, BUT YOU CAN SEE THE SAME THING THAT THE, UH, AVERAGE WAS AGAIN, 30 MILES AN HOUR, 90% OF THE PEOPLE ARE GOING 35.6.
AGAIN THERE YOU HAD TWO VEHICLES THAT WERE GOING IN THE 45 TO 50 MILE AN HOUR RANGE.
THE NEXT PAGE THEN IS NOW GOING EASTBOUND.
SO THE FIRST TWO WERE 2, 2 24 STRETCHES GOING WESTBOUND.
THESE ARE TWO STRETCHES GOING EASTBOUND.
UH, YOU SEE IN THE VERY FIRST ONE THOUGH, UH, THERE MAY HAVE BEEN A VEHICLE THAT WAS GOING 78 MILES AN HOUR THAT SHOWED THE EXPENSE.
OBVIOUSLY THEY WERE BREAKING SEVERAL LAWS BECAUSE THERE'S NO WAY THEY WOULD BE ABLE TO STOP AND START WITHIN THAT STRETCH.
IT COULD BE A GLITCH IN THE SYSTEM, BUT THE PNEUMATIC TUBES, UM, OR PERHAPS SOMEONE'S GOING, BUT IF THEY'RE WILLING TO GO 78 AND A 55, THEY'RE PROBABLY WILLING TO GO 78 AND A 35 AS WELL.
AND SO YOU'LL SEE THE DATA THAT YOU SEE DOWN BELOW.
AGAIN, ABOUT 90% OF THOSE PEOPLE WERE GOING 37.4 MILES AN HOUR.
AND AGAIN, ONLY TWO THAT WERE IN THAT 45 TO 50 MILE AN HOUR RANGE.
AND THE LAST PAGE YOU'LL SEE VERY SIMILAR DATA.
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AGAIN, I THROWN A LOT OF NUMBERS AT YOU, I APOLOGIZE, BUT IT IS ALL IN FRONT OF YOU AND WE'LL MAKE SURE WE GET IT TO THE CLERK'S OFFICE TO ADD TO THE PACKET.BUT AGAIN, UH, 90% OF THE PEOPLE GOING 37.8 MILES AN HOUR.
WHY THIS IS IMPORTANT IS THAT EVEN IF THE COMMITTEE DECIDES TO DO NOTHING AND THE COUNTY BOARD DECIDES TO DO NOTHING WITH CHARGE REGARDS TO THE SPEED LIMIT, WE'RE GETTING COMPLIANCE RIGHT NOW WITH ABOUT A 35 MILE AN HOUR.
BECAUSE IF YOU DRIVE IT, THAT'S ABOUT WHAT YOU CAN DO.
AND SO REGARDLESS IF YOU DROP THE SEATBELT DOWN TO 45 OR 35, YOU CAN SEE ALREADY YOU GOT COMPLIANCE OF PEOPLE DOING THIR OR AGAIN, 90% OF THE PEOPLE ROUGHLY DOING 35 TO 37 MILES PER HOUR.
AND SO WE'RE BRINGING THIS TO YOU BECAUSE WE WERE ASKED BY THE CITIZENS TO, TO LOOK AT THE SPEED LIMIT GOING FORWARD OUT AT THAT LOCATION AND ACTUALLY POTENTIALLY EVEN LOWER THAN 35 MILES AN HOUR.
UH, BUT THEN WE REALLY DON'T FOLLOW THE DOT STANDARDS BECAUSE 25 IS AN URBAN SETTING.
LAWRENCE, THE HAMLET JUST SOUTH OF HERE, WHICH IS SEMI-URBAN, IT'S GOT CHURCH AND BARS AND RESTAURANTS AND A FIRE DEPARTMENT THAT'S 35 MILES AN HOUR WHERE PEOPLE CROSSING THE STREET FOR THOSE DIFFERENT ESTABLISHMENTS.
AND SO THAT'S NOT EVEN 25 MILES AN HOUR.
SO JUST TO KINDA GIVE YOU A FEEL FOR WHAT, WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE AND KNOW I DID, UM, ALSO LOOK AT THAT 700 FOOT DIFFERENCE IF YOU DIDN'T GET A CHANCE TO GET OUT THERE.
THAT IS ABOUT THE DISTANCE BETWEEN INDIANA AVENUE AND OUR MAIN DRIVEWAY HERE.
UM, AND THAT, THAT'S STRAIGHT VERSUS THE CURVE.
UNDERSTOOD AND A LITTLE WIDER.
BUT TO GIVE YOU A SENSE OF FEELING HOW SHORT THE DISTANCE ACTUALLY IS.
SO YOU CAN SEE THAT IT'S CHALLENGING TO GET UP TO 50 50.
MOST PEOPLE DIDN'T GET TO 45 MILES AN HOUR AND THEN NONETHELESS 55 MILES PER HOUR.
I WAS, I I WAS OUT THERE BEFORE ON THE OTHER THING WE WERE WORKING ON.
BUT IS THERE, IS IT ACTUALLY POSTED? NO.
55, IT'S JUST UNDERSTOOD, CORRECT? YES.
IF IN THE STATE OF WISCONSIN, IF A ROAD IS NOT POSTED, IT IS A, IT IS STATUTORILY A 55 MILE AN HOUR SPEED LIMIT IN THE RURAL AREAS.
SO DON'T, DON'T THINK YOU CAN START GOING DOWN 33 'CAUSE YOU DON'T SEE A SPEED LIMIT SIGN.
UH, BUT IN THE RURAL COUNTY HIGHWAY SYSTEM TOWN ROADS IT'S 55.
IF IT'S NOT POSTED IT'S 55 MILES PER HOUR.
AND THAT'S WHERE OUR COUNTY CODE HAS OH, MAYBE 20, 25 DIFFERENT SPEED ZONES THROUGHOUT THE COUNTY WHERE WE DO ACTUALLY HAVE IT LOWERED.
I DON'T KNOW THE EXACT COUNT, BUT WE HAVE SEVERAL LOCATIONS THAT ARE OUT THERE THAT ARE LOWERED.
UH, MOST OF 'EM, LIKE IN ALLENTON OR INDIVIDUAL GERMANTOWN, WE DID HAVE AN MY IN NEWBURGH, FOR INSTANCE, WHEN WE HAD THAT.
SO THEY'RE SCATTERED THROUGHOUT THE COUNTY, THE SPEED ZONES.
SO WOULD THIS HAVE A, UM, AHEAD OF THAT STRETCH, WOULD IT HAVE A SIGN THAT WOULD SAY REDUCE SPEED TO 45? NO, BECAUSE EVERYBODY WOULD BE COMING WHEN THEY GET TO THAT STRETCH, IT WOULD BE 45, CORRECT? CORRECT.
THEY, WE WOULD HAVE TO PUT YES.
WHAT WE WOULD HAVE TO DO IS, UM, BECAUSE THEY'RE AT A STOP CONDITION, YOU DON'T HAVE TO DO A REDUCED SPEED AHEAD BECAUSE THEY'RE STOPPED ALREADY.
SO WE'D HAVE TO HAVE 2 45 MILE HOUR SPEED LIMIT SIGNS BETWEEN THE TWO COUNTY, BETWEEN R AND ONE, SAY FIVE.
BUT MORE IMPORTANTLY THEN ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE ROADWAY, GOING TO THE, IF YOU'RE GOING WEST, YOU'D HAVE TO HAVE A 55 MILES AN HOUR BECAUSE PEOPLE WOULD NEED TO KNOW IT CHANGED FROM 45 TO 55.
SO YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT FOUR SIGNS THAT WOULD'VE TO BE INSTALLED, UH, TO MAKE IT LEGAL ON IN EACH DIRECTION.
BUT AGAIN, WE WE'RE HAVING PRETTY GOOD COMPLIANCE WITH NOT ONE SIGN UP RIGHT NOW SAYING YOU'RE ONLY TALKING 700 FEET.
I MEAN WE PUT SIGNS UP FOR 55 OR 45 ALMOST ASKING FOR TROUBLE.
UM, I GUESS MY QUESTION IS, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT 35 MILES PER HOUR AND YOU'RE TALKING AND YOU'RE SAYING 45 MILE PER HOUR SIGNS THOUGH, RIGHT? WELL WE, WE RE RIGHT.
WELL WE REQUESTED, YEAH, THAT WAS THE SUPERVISOR HAD ASKED ME WHAT TO 45.
OH, THAT'S WHY WE WENT WITH, WITH 45.
WE, I SEE WE REQUESTED 35 WITH THE DOT AND THAT'S WHERE THAT'S AT RIGHT NOW.
BUT AT THIS, AT THIS POINT, WE DON'T NEED TO SIGN, PUT ANY SIGNS UP UNTIL WE GET THE 35 APPROVED ANYWAY, RIGHT? OR NO? YEAH.
WELL I THINK WHAT WE'RE DOING RIGHT NOW IS TRYING TO DO OUR DUE DILIGENCE, UH, FOR THE CITIZENS.
'CAUSE THERE WAS REQUEST FOR THEM AND TRYING TO DO AS, AS QUICKLY AS POSSIBLE.
UM, AND SO BY DOING THAT, WE FIGURED WE'D TAKE IT TO PUBLIC WORKS NOW, HOPEFULLY HAVE AN ANSWER BY THE DOT BEFORE THE COUNTY BOARD MET.
AND IF THEY REFUSE 35, THE BOARD WOULD'VE THE OPPORTUNITY TO MOVE TO 45 IF THEY SO DESIRED.
THAT'S KIND OF THE LOGIC BEHIND THE RESOLUTION AND SURE.
I'M SURE ATTORNEY STERN CAN EXPLAIN IT MAYBE BETTER, BUT THAT'S KIND OF THE, THE GIST OF IT.
I DON'T NEED ANY MORE EXPLANATION.
I MEAN, IF THE PEOPLE THERE WANT IT THAT WAY AND IT'S A SMALL STRETCH OR SHORT STRETCH, UH, OBVIOUSLY IT SHOWS MOST PEOPLE ARE DOING THAT ANYWAY.
IT'S KIND OF NO HARM JUST TO POST IT.
WAS THIS THE COST OF THE SIGNS? WHAT'S THAT? WITH THE RESIDENTS RIGHT THERE? I JUST, NO, WE JUST, JUST GOT THAT DONE.
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THE DATES ON IT, IT JUST CAME BACK INTO MY OFFICE TODAY TO GET IT, GET THE DATA DONE.SO JUST OUTTA CURIOSITY, SINCE THE CHAIRMAN BROUGHT IT UP, DO YOU KNOW WHAT THE COST WOULD BE FOR THE FOUR SIGNS? UH, EACH SIGN IS USUALLY ABOUT A HUNDRED DOLLARS OR SO, HUNDRED 55 BUCKS.
AND ONCE THEY'RE UP, THERE'S REALLY MINIMAL, MINIMAL MAINTENANCE UNLESS SOMEBODY GETS HIT.
UNLESS YEAH, PEOPLE KNOCK 'EM DOWN.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? MAYBE $200 PER SIGN WITH LABOR AND STUFF.
IF NO OTHER QUESTIONS, UH, DOES THIS, SO IF WE APPROVE THIS, THIS GOES TO THE, TO THE FULL BOARD THEN? YES.
IS THAT WHERE WE'RE, WE'RE SAYING LET'S PUSH THIS TO THE FULL BOARD FOR CONVERSATION, CORRECT? YES.
I DON'T HAVE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS ON.
THEN, UH, THEN I'LL APPROVE, UH, SAY AYE.
ANY OPPOSED? THEN MOTION CARRIES.
SO THAT'S THE LAST AGENDA ITEM.
SO THE NEXT MEETING WILL BE THURSDAY, NOVEMBER 21ST AT THREE O'CLOCK.