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IT IS 4:00 PM I WILL CALL THIS MEETING OF THE EXECUTIVE COMMITTEE TO ORDER.
UM, THIS MEETING WAS POSTED APPROPRIATELY, APPROPRIATELY BY THE CLERK'S OFFICE TO ALL THE LOCAL MEDIA OUTLETS.
UH, WILL RISE FOR A MOMENT OF SILENT PRAYER AND A PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE.
I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH STANDS, ONE NATION UNDER UNDER GOD, INDIVIDUAL WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL THE MINUTES OF OCTOBER 16TH.
WE, IN YOUR PACKET, UH, DOES ANYONE HAVE ANY CORRECTIONS? THERE BEING NONE.
UM, SO TREASURER QUARTERLY REPORT,
[a. Treasurer Quarterly Report]
THERE'S YOUR SPEAKER.AS, AS YOU CAN SEE, THERE'S NOT MUCH ON THE, UH, ON THE PLATE OTHER THAN MAKING OUT TAX BILLS RIGHT NOW.
BUT THE, UH, THE RFP FOR BANKING SERVICES IS UNDERWAY.
AND, UH, IT'S A MONUMENTAL TASK, UH, IF TO SAY THE LEAST.
UM, SO WE WILL BE LOOKING AT A COUPLE OTHER COUNTIES WHO HAVE DONE THEM IN THE, IN MOST RECENT PAST, AND WAUKESHA BEING ONE OF THEM.
UM, AND SEE IF WE CAN PIGGYBACK ON SOME OF THEIR, UM, EVERYBODY DOES IT DIFFERENT, BUT WE'LL, UH, SEE IF WE CAN PIGGYBACK ON THAT.
AND, UM, I TALKED WITH, UM, BILL YESTERDAY, UM, QUITE EXTENSIVELY.
AND, UM, IT IS A BIG TASK TO, TO TAKE ON.
UM, NOT ONLY THAT, IF WE WOULD DECIDE TO GO WITH SOMEONE ELSE, IT'S USUALLY, IT'S A TWO YEAR WINDOW THAT WE'D HAVE TWO SETS OF BOOKS, UM, BY THE TIME EVERYTHING CLEARS AND THINGS GET TRANSFERRED, AND WE HAD A LITTLE TASTE OF THAT WITH, UM, THE SALES SAMARITAN.
SO WE'RE, WE'RE GETTING, WE'RE GETTING BETTER AT THOSE TYPES OF THINGS.
SO IF THERE ISN'T ANY QUESTIONS, THAT'S REALLY ALL I HAVE IS I HESITATE TO ASK THIS.
BUT GIVEN ALL THAT COMPLICATION, UH, IS THERE ANY POSSIBILITY THAT OUR CURRENT BANK CHANGES THEIR RATES A LITTLE BIT KNOWING THAT WE'RE GOING OUT FOR RFP? YEAH, THERE'S, THAT'S WHAT'S BEEN DONE IN THE PAST.
UM, I THINK FROM THE TIME IT WAS FARMERS AND MERCHANTS TO M AND I TO, UM, ALL THE OTHERS THAT, UM, BMO HAS ACQUIRED ALONG THE WAY, AND WE'VE BEEN WITH, UM, THAT IS REALLY WHAT HAS HAPPENED IN THE PAST IS THAT THEY WENT TO THE STATE, UM, THE STATE BANK, IF YOU WILL, THE US BANK HAS THOSE RATES AND THEY MATCHED THOSE RATES.
SO WE JUST EXTENDED THAT CONTRACT.
SO THOSE ARE ALL THINGS THAT COST, COST-WISE, WE'RE GONNA LOOK AT IN THIS PRELIMINARY IDEA UNTIL ABOUT MARCH 1ST, THEN WE SHOULD BE ABLE TO FIGURE THAT OUT, UM, IF IT'S EVEN WORTH TO GO OUT TO RFP OR IF THERE'S OTHER THINGS THAT CAN COME FORWARD, BECAUSE THERE'S A LOT OF IT THINGS AND ALL KINDS OF OTHER THINGS WITH AACH HS AND ELECTRONIC AND ALL OF THOSE THINGS.
NOT SAYING THAT THE SMALLER BANKS OR, OR ANY OF THE BANKS IN THE AREA COULD NOT DO THIS.
UM, BUT IT'S THE CHANGEOVER AND THAT'S WHY THAT TWO YEAR WINDOW, SO, OKAY.
I, I CAN SEE MARGIE CRINGING BEHIND ME.
UM, I SEEM TO RECALL, YOU KNOW, PROBABLY EARLY IN MY TENURE, UH, ON THE COUNTY BOARD THAT WE HAD A, A DISCUSSION OF THIS.
UM, IT HAD TO BE FIVE, SIX YEARS AGO AT LEAST.
UH, SO WHAT KIND OF TERM, OR IS THERE A TERM THAT'S BEING CONSIDERED FOR THIS? LIKE, ARE WE TALKING FIVE, 10 YEAR TERM FOR THIS CONTRACT OR? NO, I, I, IT, IN CONVERSATIONS WITH THE COUNTY EXECUTIVE, THE, THE WAY THAT WE'D LIKE TO SEE THE ROTATION, IF YOU WILL, UM, WOULD COME IN THE MIDDLE OF EVERY TERM.
SO, IN OTHER WORDS, UM, I JUST COMPLETED A FOUR YEAR TERM.
TWO YEARS FROM NOW, WE WOULD BE LOOKING AGAIN, KIND OF THING,
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AND THEN FOUR YEARS FROM THERE, SO THAT A NEW TREASURER COMING IN WOULD'VE TWO YEARS BEFORE THEY'D HAVE TO MAKE ANOTHER, ANOTHER SWITCH.GRANTED, WE WERE BANKING BEFORE ONLINE BANKING, UM, WITH THE COMPANY WE'RE WITH NOW.
SO TO CHANGE ONLINE TO ONLINE PROBABLY WOULDN'T TAKE THAT TWO YEAR WINDOW, BUT THAT'S THE, THAT'S THE BUFFER THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT.
SO IT WOULD BE A TRY TO DO A FOUR YEAR UPGRADE EVERY, EVERY TIME OR A FOUR YEAR EXTENSION, IF YOU WILL.
SO A FOUR YEAR WINDOW IS REALLY WHAT WE WERE LOOKING AT.
AND THEN I GUESS PROBABLY MORE FOR AARON, WHAT, UM, I'M ASSUMING THAT FOR US TO CHANGE WOULD INQUIRE A A LOT OF COSTS, UH, TO MOVE IT.
SO AT, YOU KNOW, AT WHAT POINT DO YOU HAVE IT IN YOUR MIND THAT THERE'S A PERCENTAGE OR SOME TYPE OF AMOUNT WHERE IT ACTUALLY MAKES IT FEASIBLE IF WE'RE CONSIDERING TALKING EVERY FOUR YEARS? BECAUSE I GOTTA ASSUME, YOU KNOW, YOU'RE GONNA HAVE, IT'S GONNA TAKE A WHILE TO EVEN RECOUP TO BREAK EVEN, YOU KNOW? SO, YEAH.
AND I DON'T THINK IT WOULD BE NECESSARILY THAT WE WOULD CHANGE EVERY FOUR YEARS, BUT THAT FOUR YEAR WINDOW IS WHAT WE WOULD LOOK AT FOR, TO REEVALUATE PRICING WISE.
AND WE DO THAT NOW ON AN ANNUAL BASIS, BUT WE HAVEN'T COME FORWARD AND SAID, LET'S PUT THE SCREWS TO IT, OR WHATEVER YOU WANNA CALL IT.
SO, BUT POTENTIALLY YOU COULD, COULD ABSOLUTELY, WE COULD.
I MEAN, I GUESS MY, I MEAN, IN, IN MY, WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO SEE IS JUST THAT WE KIND OF AT LEAST NAILED DOWN AN IDEA YEAH.
OF THE COSTS INVOLVED IN, IN MY FOUR YEARS WE'VE DONE T TWICE THAT WHERE WE CALLED OUR CURRENT BANKER IN AND SAID, HERE'S WHAT WE NEED.
AND HOPEFULLY THAT'LL BE THE CASE.
AND, AND IT'S NOT LIKE IT'S A, THERE'S NOT A, A TON OUT THERE BECAUSE WE DO USE PMA FOR OUR INVESTMENTS.
SO THE INVESTMENTS TAKEN OUT OF THERE.
IT'S BASICALLY A DAY-TO-DAY CHECKING AND POSITORY.
SO THAT'S REALLY WHAT WE'RE LOOKING FOR.
AND THAT'S NOT AS LUCRATIVE AS OTHERS IF THERE WAS INVESTMENTS IN, IN THAT.
BUT STILL THERE'S A SOCIAL COST.
BUT I MEAN, AS FAR AS PROFITABILITY FOR THE SUPPLIER.
UH, OUR NEXT ITEM IS THE GIS QUARTERLY REPORT.
I'D LIKE TO WISH EVERYBODY A HAPPY GIS DAY
I APPRECIATE YOU GUYS SCHEDULING YOUR MEETING ON GIS DAY.
IS THAT IN THE CALENDAR? I MISSED THAT.
IT IS THE, IT IS THE 25TH ANNIVERSARY OF JS DAY.
THAT, THAT, THAT PART'S NOT A JOKE, SO.
SO ACTUALLY IT'S USUALLY THE WEDNESDAY OF, UH, GEOGRAPHY AWARENESS WEEK, WHICH IS WHAT WE ARE ALSO IN.
SO YOU CAN, YOU, YOU CAN PRESS YOUR FAMILIES OVER DINNER WITH THAT TONIGHT, I'M SURE.
OR NOT, OR I'LL LEAVE THAT PART UP TO YOU, UH, ON THE EOS REPORT.
JUST A FEW ITEMS OF NOTE, UH, FOR NEXT GEN 9 1 1, WE ARE AGAIN SHOWING THE DATA REMEDIATION OF BEING OFF TRACK.
UM, IT'S JUST TURNING OUT TO BE SIGNIFICANTLY MORE TIME SUCKED THAN WHAT WE HAD ORIGINALLY THOUGHT IT WAS GOING TO BE.
UM, THE GOOD NEWS IS THAT WE WERE SUCCESSFUL IN GETTING A DEPARTMENT OF MILITARY AFFAIRS NEXT GEN 9 1 1 GIS GRANT, UM, THAT YOU HAD APPROVED, I THINK THE LAST COUNTY BOARD OF THE COUNTY BOARD TO GO.
SO WE WERE SUCCESSFUL IN GETTING THAT GRANT.
SO WE'LL ABLE TO BRING SOMEBODY IN TO HELP US WITH THAT WORK.
AND WE WILL BE REWORKING THIS GOAL WHEN WE GET THAT PERSON
[b. GIS Quarterly Report]
IN HOUSE AND, UH, AND PUT SOME REALISTIC TIMELINES, UM, TO COMPLETE THAT IMPORTANT WORK.UH, THE 2024 ORTHO PHOTOGRAPHY PROJECT, WE ACTUALLY TOOK INITIAL DELIVERY OF THAT TODAY, AND IT HAS ALREADY COME IN HANDY AS I WAS HELPING THE CLERK FROM THE TOWN OF HARTFORD TODAY.
UM, SOME VOTER REGISTRATION CONCERNS THAT THEY HAD GETTING, UM, THE VOTING DAY REGISTRATIONS ALL ENTERED INTO THE WIST VOTE SYSTEM.
SO I'M GLAD TO HAVE THAT IN HOUSE.
UM, WE USE THAT DATA SET EVERY DAY AND, AND SO DO OUR MUNICIPALITIES.
UH, THE LAST THING I WANTED TO SPECIFICALLY POINT OUT IS THAT THE LAND INFORMATION PLAN IS, UH, ESSENTIALLY COMPLETE.
THE LAND INFORMATION COUNCIL WILL BE MEETING TOMORROW TO, UH, FORMALLY APPROVE IT, AND THEN WE'LL SUBMIT IT TO THE STATE, UM, COMPLETING THAT, COMPLETING THAT PLANNING PROCESS.
AND WE'LL BE PRESENTING IT, UM, AS A DISCUSSION ITEM OR A CONSENT ITEM TO THE LAND USE OF PLANNING COMMITTEE AT THEIR MEETING NEXT MONTH.
IF THERE'S ANY QUESTIONS ON THE REPORT, I'M HAPPY TO TAKE THEM AT THIS TIME.
UM, THE, I FORGET WHAT YOU, IT BEGINS WITH THE OI DON'T ORNITHOLOGY WHATEVER ORTHO OF PHOTOGRAPHY.
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USED TO DETERMINE THE, UH, FLOOD ZONES? CORRECT.SO THIS IS AERIAL PHOTOGRAPHY TAKEN STRAIGHT DOWN.
IT'S WHAT, IT'S KIND OF THE BASE OF A LOT OF THE MAPS THAT WE, THAT WE TAKE.
WE'RE NOW ON A TWO YEAR UPDATE CYCLE.
IT'S A PROJECT THAT'S COORDINATED BY THE REGIONAL PLANNING COMMISSION.
UM, WHAT'S USED TO DETERMINE THE FLOOD ZONE IS ACTUALLY THE TOPOGRAPHIC, THE LIDAR DATA.
UM, AND THAT'S, THAT'S A THREE DIMENSIONAL SURFACE OF THE, OF THE EARTH.
SO, SO THAT, THAT WILL BE FLYING NEW NEXT, NEXT YEAR, NEXT YEAR.
AND, AND THAT WAS MY QUESTION.
'CAUSE I, I RECENTLY WAS LOOKING AT THAT AND THE DATA SETS, UH, YOU KNOW, WITH THE WAY WASHINGTON COUNTY IS GROWING.
UM, AND IT JUST SO HAPPENS THAT I KNOW SOME PEOPLE THAT ARE LIVING RIGHT NEXT TO THE RIVER, AND THEN SOME DATA SETS ARE SAYING THAT THEY'RE IN A FLOOD ZONE, AND SOME ARE SAYING THAT THEY ARE NOT, AND YET THE DATA SETS ARE OLDER THAN THEIR HOUSES, SO YOU CAN'T REALLY DETERMINE IT.
AND I'M JUST TRYING TO GIVE 'EM AN IDEA OF WHEN, UH, WE MIGHT SEE, UH, ACTUAL NEWER, MORE UPDATED DATASET.
SO THE, THE CHALLENGE IS THAT WE WILL BE FLYING LIDAR NEXT SPRING, AND WE WILL HAVE AN UPDATED SURFACE OF THE EARTH THAT IS, THAT IS CURRENT AND, AND EXTREMELY ACCURATE.
UM, THAT'S A, AN INPUT TO THE ACTUAL FLOODPLAIN MAPPING PROCESS WHEREBY IF, IF FEMA DOESN'T GO THROUGH A MAPPING UPDATE, YOU'RE NOT GONNA SEE THE FLOODPLAIN MAPS AUTOMATICALLY UPDATE.
LIKE THEY WOULD HAVE TO GO THROUGH A PROCESS AND ACTUALLY TAKE THE FLOOD ELEVATION.
I MEAN, THERE'S, THERE'S A COUPLE DIFFERENT WAYS THAT THEY CAN DO IT.
THE FIRST WAY IS THAT YOU TAKE THE EXISTING KNOWN FLOOD ELEVATIONS AND YOU APPLY THAT TO THE NEW MODEL OF THE, THE EARTH TO CREATE WHERE THAT FLOOD PLANE LINE WOULD BE ON THE MAP.
THAT IS THE CHEAPER OF THE OPTIONS, THE MORE EXPENSIVE OF THE OPTION IS SO THAT THEY WOULD DO ALL THE, REDO ALL OF THE ENGINEERING WORK TO DETERMINE THE NEW FLOODPLAIN ELEVATION AND, UH, DO ALL NEW MODELING.
AND SOME OF THAT WAS RECENTLY DONE.
SO WE WOULD HAVE TO LOOK SPECIFICALLY, UM, IN THE AREAS THAT YOU'RE INTERESTED IN TO SEE EXACTLY WHEN THAT LAST STUDY WAS DONE BY US, BY DNR OR ANY OF THE CONTRACTORS THAT WE HAVE TO DETERMINE WHEN THAT WAS UPDATED.
AND YOU WILL BE SEEING AT THE COUNTY BOARD SOMETIME PROBABLY IN THE FIRST HALF OF NEXT YEAR, A FLOODPLAIN UPDATE THAT WILL UPDATE.
I DON'T UPDATE FLOOD PLAINS FOR A GOOD CHUNK OF THE COUNTY GET TOO FAR OFF TRACK WITH IT IS THAT MAY OR MAY NOT BE GERMANE TO WHAT WE'RE SEEING HERE, BUT, BUT THANK YOU FOR THE YEAH, YOU'RE WELCOME.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR DISCUSSION? THANK YOU.
OUR NEXT ITEM ON THE AGENDA IS THE COUNTY CLERK QUARTERLY REPORT.
[c. County Clerk Quarterly Report]
SO AS OF RIGHT NOW, WE ONLY HAVE ONE OF OUR INITIATIVES THAT WE'RE STILL WORKING THROUGH, WHICH IS THE ELECTION INTEGRITY PACKAGE.WE HAVE OUR AUDIT COMING UP IN DECEMBER.
UM, SECOND WEEK IN DECEMBER IS WHEN WE'RE PLANNING TO HAVE OUR COUNTYWIDE AUDIT, WHICH WILL BE THE PRESIDENTIAL CONTEST AND THEN THE US SENATE CONTEST.
UM, BUT OTHERWISE, OUR OTHER INITIATIVES THAT WE'VE BEEN, UH, WORKING THROUGH THE, I VOTED STICKER WAS A HUGE SUCCESS.
SO THAT WAS USED IN NOVEMBER, AND THEN WE'LL BE USED NEXT SPRING TOO.
UM, AND THEN WE'RE PLANNING TO HAVE ANOTHER CONTEST FOR THE NEXT, UH, GENERAL ELECTION YEAR, WHICH WOULD BE 2026.
UM, AND THEN OUR QUARTERLY SATURDAYS HAVE BEEN A HUGE, UH, POSITIVE IMPACT ON, ON THE COMMUNITY.
OUR FIRST SATURDAY THAT WE HAD HAD 22 APPOINTMENTS, UM, SO WE HAD THREE STAFF MEMBERS WORKING.
AND THEN OUR LAST QUARTERLY SATURDAY WE HAD FIF, I BELIEVE 15.
AND SO THAT'S WITHIN A THREE HOUR TIME PERIOD ON THE SATURDAY THAT WE'VE OFFERED.
UM, AND SO THE LAST TIME WE HAD TWO STAFF MEMBERS WORKING.
AND SO, UH, DEFINITELY A GREAT BENEFIT TO OUR COMMUNITY AND FOR THOSE OUTSIDE OF THE COUNTY, UH, THAT HAVE COME TO WASHINGTON COUNTY TO GET THAT, THOSE SERVICES ON A SATURDAY.
HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MIGHT HAVE.
AND, UH, JUST TO LET YOU KNOW, I WILL BE BRINGING FORWARD A, A FULL UPDATE ON OUR ENTIRE ELECTION INTEGRITY PACKAGE, LIKELY IN JANUARY.
UM, OUR NEXT ITEM IS, UH, SIMPLY A DISCUSSION ITEM.
[d. Possible Forming of Site Plan Committee/Task Force]
TALKED A WHILE BACK ABOUT FORMING A COMMITTEE OR TASK FORCE TO STUDY OUR SITE.UM, MAYBE THIS BUILDING, BUT MAYBE THE WHOLE, YOU KNOW, LIKE HAD BEEN TALKED ABOUT DEVELOPING ALL THE WAY FROM MANITOU ALL THE WAY UP TO, UM, THE WEST BEND COMPANY.
UM, I KNOW THERE HAVE BEEN CONVERSATIONS
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AS RECENTLY AS THIS WEEK WITH THE SCHOOL DISTRICT ABOUT THE FUTURE OF, UH, FAIR PARK SCHOOL.SO IT ALL PLAYS IN, BUT, UH, I JUST WANT TO TALK ABOUT IT, SEE WHAT EVERYBODY THINKS.
UM, I KNOW THAT THE COUNTY EXECUTIVE HAS SOME INPUT.
UH, SO I GUESS WHAT I'D LIKE TO COVER IS, FIRST OF ALL, EITHER OR A COMMITTEE WOULD BE COUNTY BOARD MEMBERS, PROBABLY BASED ON THIS COMMITTEE MOSTLY.
UM, A TASK FORCE WOULD INCLUDE CITIZENS OUTSIDE.
SO WE NEED TO TALK THROUGH WHAT WE WANT TO DO WITH RESPECT TO THAT.
UM, WHAT ARE THE GOALS? WHAT WOULD BE THE CHARGE OF SUCH A COMMITTEE? UM, WHAT'S THE TIMING? I MEAN, WHY NOW? MOST OF US MIGHT NOT BE ON THE BOARD IN FIVE YEARS WHEN ANY, ANY OF THIS COMES TO PASS.
AND THEN WHO WOULD BE ON THAT BOARD? SO, UM, AS THE COUNTY EXECUTIVE LEADS US IN A LITTLE BIT OF A DISCUSSION, UM, LET'S ALL BE THINKING ABOUT WHAT WE FEEL ABOUT THIS.
UM, SO YOU'LL RECALL FROM THE PRESENTATION THAT WE HAD, UM, A MONTH OR SO AGO.
UM, WE HAVE SOME VERY ROUGH SKETCHES OF POTENTIAL, UH, FOR THE PROPERTY, PARTICULARLY SOUTH OF HIGHWAY 33.
WE HAVE VERSIONS THAT ARE ALSO SIMPLY JUST SKETCHES, JUST ONE STEP UP FROM A THUMBNAIL, UM, FOR EVERYTHING, AS THE CHAIRMAN JUST INDICATED, I THINK THE QUESTION THAT THIS COMMITTEE, UM, OUGHT TO, UH, OUGHT TO WRESTLE WITH IS TWOFOLD.
FIRST, EVERYTHING THAT WE TALK ABOUT AS REGARD TO THE TOTALITY OF MANITOU REGAL WEAR, UM, IS OPPORTUNITY THAT HAS IMPACT WELL BEYOND THE, THE BOUNDARIES OF COUNTY GOVERNMENT SPECIFIC.
IT'S EVEN GOES BEYOND THE CITY LIMITS, OF COURSE.
UM, AND IT, BUT SEPARATE, UH, FROM THAT, BUT IN CONJUNCTION, UH, I BELIEVE THIS IS WHERE, FOR EXAMPLE, NEXT GENERATION HOUSING, WHICH IDEALLY WOULD TAKE UP MUCH OF THAT DEVELOPMENT OR REDEVELOPMENT, KIND OF CROSSES WITH YOUR MASTER PLANNING FOR THIS CAMPUS, FOR THE FOOTPRINT OF HOW COUNTY GOVERNMENT OPERATES, WHAT DO WE DO AT THE, THE PUBLIC AGENCY CENTER.
AND SO THAT'S REALLY THE NEXUS I THINK OF THE CONVERSATION THAT THE CHAIRMAN AND I HAD IN PARTICULAR.
UM, CERTAINLY THE, THE FUTURE OF HOW DO YOU UTILIZE THE EXISTING FACILITIES, POTENTIALLY NEW FACILITIES IS THE BAILIWICK OF THE, OF THE BOARD, OF YOUR COMMITTEE IN PARTICULAR.
UM, ONCE YOU EXPAND THE CONVERSATION TO, TO THE MUCH LARGER DISCUSSION, UM, THAT'S WHEN WE STARTED KIND OF DEBATING WHETHER THERE'S A TASK FORCE INVOLVED.
UM, I THINK WHERE WE LEFT THINGS LARGELY WAS THAT BIGGER DISCUSSION PROBABLY OUGHT TO BE IN THE FORM OF A TASK FORCE.
WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE EXACTLY, I THINK IS, IS SOMETHING THAT CAN BE DISCUSSED.
I'M A FIRM BELIEVER, AND WE HAD A CONVERSATION, LONNIE AND I, UH, WITH SUPERINTENDENT WIMMER, UH, SUBSEQUENT TO THEIR, UH, THE APPROVAL OF THEIR REFERENDUM.
UM, THE TIMELINE NOW IS FIRMED UP FOR WHEN FAIR PARK SCHOOL WILL CLOSE.
UM, I BELIEVE THEY SHOULD BE A PLAYER THAT IS AT THE TABLE FOR WHAT THE REDEVELOPMENT OF THAT PROPERTY LOOKS LIKE, NOT JUST BECAUSE THAT'S THEIR PROPERTY, UH, BUT BASED ON THE NUMBERS THAT WE TALKED ABOUT FROM THAT SKETCH, UH, ALONE, YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT THE POTENTIAL OF HUNDREDS OF NEW FAMILIES IN WEST BEND AND, AND FRANKLY, POTENTIALLY THOUSANDS OF NEW STUDENTS IN THEIR SCHOOL DISTRICT, UH, WHICH WOULD CREATE A DIFFERENT PROBLEM FROM THE CURRENT PROBLEM THAT THEY HAVE, WHICH IS A GOOD, GOOD PROBLEM.
UM, SO I BELIEVE THEY NEED TO BE SOMEBODY WHO'S SITTING AT THE TABLE.
UH, WE INTEND TO HAVE A VERY PRELIMINARY CONVERSATION WITH THE SUPERINTENDENT AND THE SCHOOL BOARD PRESIDENT, GIVING THEM A, A PREVIEW OF WHAT YOU SAW IN PUBLIC SESSION NOT TOO LONG AGO, AND MAYBE A GLIMPSE, UH, UNDER THE HOOD, UH, OF A LITTLE BIT MORE THAN THAT.
UM, THE OTHER ENTITY THAT I THINK WE'D BE REMISS IF WE DIDN'T HAVE A SEAT AT THE TABLE WOULD BE THE CITY OF WEST BEND.
UM, ANY APPROVALS, ANY, YOU KNOW, DESIGNS, UH, ZONING CHANGES, SUBDIVISION CODES, COMPREHENSIVE PLAN CHANGES THAT HAVE TO HAPPEN ARE GOING TO HAVE TO GO THROUGH, UH, THE CITY.
UM, I THINK HAVING AN ELECTED OFFICIAL FROM THE CITY IN PARTICULAR, UH, AS WELL AS AN ADMINISTRATIVE APPOINTED OFFICIAL, UM, MORE THAN LIKELY THE PLANNER WOULD BE THE LOGICAL PERSON.
UH, HAVING THEM SITTING AT THE TABLE AT THE SAME TIME WOULD MAKE A LOT OF SENSE, TOO, SAYING ALL THAT.
I ALSO BELIEVE IT'S IMPORTANT FOR THIS GROUP, WHETHER IT'S A SUBCOMMITTEE OF THAT LARGER TASK FORCE OR WHETHER IT'S COMPLETELY SEPARATE ALTOGETHER, IF YOU CHOOSE TO HAVE EXECUTIVE COMMITTEE RUN IT OR AN AD HOC COMMITTEE, THERE HAS TO BE A VERY SPECIFIC QUESTION ABOUT
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WHAT HAPPENS WITH THE BUILDING WE'RE IN.WHAT HAPPENS WITH THE PAC? HOW DO THOSE TWO THINGS DOVETAIL? THERE SHOULD DEFINITELY BE OVERLAP BETWEEN TASK FORCE AND, UM, AD HOC COMMITTEE OR, OR YOUR COMMITTEE.
UM, BUT THEY ARE, THEY'RE SEPARATE AND YET TOGETHER.
SO THAT WAS THE CONVERSATION THE CHAIRMAN AND I HAD.
UM, CERTAINLY NOT TRYING TO PREDETERMINE ANY OUTCOMES, UM, BUT I FEEL STRONGLY THIS IS THE TYPE OF THING, VERY MUCH LIKE SOME OF THE MAJOR DECISIONS WE'VE MADE IN THE LAST 10 YEARS, WHERE THE MORE STAKEHOLDERS YOU HAVE AT THE TABLE AT THE BEGINNING OF THE PROCESS, WE'RE INFORMED STEP BY STEP, UH, THE MORE, THE SEAMLESS IT WILL OPERATE AS YOU, AS WE START TO SEE IT COME INTO FRUITION.
UM, INITIALLY, I THINK I'VE TOLD YOU IN THE PAST, UH, I THOUGHT THE MASTER PLAN WOULD BE SOMETHING MAYBE MORE THAN FIVE YEARS OUT, 10 YEARS OUT.
UM, I THINK A NUMBER OF THINGS, UH, THE APPROVAL THAT YOU GAVE LAST WEEK AS A COUNTY BOARD, UH, FOR ESSENTIALLY, UH, PRELIMINARY APPROVAL FOR BORROWING MONEY TO DO THE RE RECONSTRUCTION HERE WITH THE, UH, CONSTITUTIONAL OFFICERS THAT E EXTREMELY EXPEDITES PHASE ONE.
UM, THE FAIR PARK SCHOOL CLOSURE, I THINK IS ANOTHER, UH, UH, ADDITIVE, IF YOU WILL, UH, MORE FUEL ON THE FIRE THAT WILL ACCELERATE THIS PROCESS.
UM, AND THEN I THINK THE FASTER WE START TO HAVE PUBLIC CONVERSATIONS ABOUT, UM, THE SOUTH SIDE OF 33 I IF THAT, I THINK THAT REALLY HAS THE POTENTIAL TO BE ANOTHER ACCELERANT.
AND THIS COULD GO FROM A, WHAT I THOUGHT WOULD BE A MAYBE A 10 YEAR PLUS PLAN TO MAYBE A FIVE YEAR OR LESS PLAN.
UM, SO I, I, I THINK NOW IS THE TIME TO THE CHAIRMAN'S POINT FOR YOU TO START TO MAKE DECISIONS, NOT JUST ON HOW THE, I I DOTTING AND T CROSSING ON THIS PHASE ONE PROJECT WITH THE CONS, STARTING WITH THE CONSTITUTIONAL OFFICER MOVE AND, AND SO FORTH.
UH, BUT THEN WHAT DOES PHASE TWO LOOK LIKE? HOW FAST DOES PHASE TWO HAPPEN? UH, AND THEN WHAT DOES THAT LOOK LIKE FOR IN CONJUNCTION WITH THE REST OF THE COMMUNITY? SO I'M A LARGE ADVOCATE OF YOUR MASTER PLANNING FOR CAMPUS, COUNTY GOVERNMENT, CAMPUS PROPER, STAYING WITHIN THE, THE REALM OF YOUR, OF YOUR BOARD, UH, WHATEVER THAT LOOKS LIKE.
I'M ALSO AN ADVOCATE OF LET'S HAVE A MUCH LARGER GROUP IN TANDEM WITH THAT GROUP, UM, ON THE BIGGER PICTURE, UH, FROM REGAL PLACE TO MANITOU AS THE CHAIRMAN, UH, ILLUMINATED.
SO HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.
UM, AGAIN, CERTAINLY NO PREDISPOSITIONS AS TO HOW IT SHOULD END, BUT I THINK IT IS A CONVERSATION THAT'S APPROPRIATE AND HAPPY TO BE PART OF IT.
DISCUSSION ONE SUPERVISOR, KELLY, UM, THIS MIGHT BE FOR YOU, MR. CHAIR, OR THIS MIGHT BE FOR JOSH.
I MEAN, AS WE ROLL THROUGH THIS MASTER PLAN, ARE WE CONSIDERING MORE OF A PEACE EFFECT, UH, YOU KNOW, BREAKING IT UP IN THE PORTIONS, OR ARE WE LOOKING MORE AS A, GET IT COMPLETED BY A CERTAIN DATE TYPE OF THING? UH, HOW DO YOU PROCEED US, HOW PERCEIVE US MOVING FORWARD ON THIS? WELL, FOR THE SAKE OF CONVERSATION, LET'S DO DO THIS ONE THING.
WHEN WE USE THE TERM MASTER PLAN, LET'S FOCUS ON COUNTY GOVERNMENT BUILDINGS, RIGHT? WHEN WE, AND, AND WE'LL TALK, LET, LET'S JUST USE THE TERM, UH, COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT WHEN WE TALK ABOUT ALL THE REST OF IT JUST TO, FOR OUR OWN, UH, CONVERSATION.
WHEN, WHEN WE DISCUSS MASTER PLAN, UM, WE'VE, IN ESSENCE, WE'VE ALREADY BROKEN IT UP INTO PHASES, BUT ALMOST BY DEFAULT.
UM, REALLY, QUITE FRANKLY, IT WAS FINANCIAL THAT DROVE THAT.
UM, SO YOU ARE, YOU ARE NOW OFFICIALLY IN THE PROCESS.
UM, THE, THE LITTLE WARNING I GAVE AT THE END OF THE DISCUSSION, UH, FOR THE BUDGET REPAIR RESOLUTION WHERE IF YOU ARE APPROVING THIS AND YOU DON'T BORROW THE MONEY, YOU ARE OVERTAXING PEOPLE.
IF YOU RECALL, THAT WAS TELLING YOU, I WAS TRYING TO BE AS CLEAR AS I COULD TO BE TELLING YOU, YOU ARE DOING PHASE ONE AND YOU'VE JUST APPROVED BORROWING MONEY.
SO WHAT THAT WILL ALLOW YOU TO DO, TO SET THE STAGE, THE WAY THAT WE'RE GONNA STRUCTURE THIS DEBT, IT WAS ALLOW YOU TO DO THIS PHASE ONE, ALL THE CONSTITUTIONAL OFFICERS MOVE TO THE, TOWARDS THE, UH, EAST END OF THE BUILDING TOWARDS THE SECURE ENTRANCE.
A NUMBER OF THE DEPARTMENTS, MOSTLY FROM THAT REPORT TO YOUR COMMITTEE, BEGIN TO MOVE OVER TO THIS GOVERNMENT CENTER, THE SEC CURRENT SECOND FLOOR WHERE CONSTITUTIONAL OFFICERS CURRENTLY ARE LOCATED.
AND THEN YOU'RE LEFT WITH ABOUT ONLY ABOUT TWO THIRDS OF THE PAC FULL.
SO JUST OVER HALF OF THAT BUILDING IS FULL.
THAT'S WHERE YOU START TO GET IN.
OKAY, WHAT'S PHASE, IS IT PHASE TWO OR IS THERE A PHASE TWO AND A PHASE THREE? THERE'S ALL KINDS OF QUESTIONS THAT WE COULD LITERALLY SPEND HOURS TALKING ABOUT.
WHERE DO EACH INDIVIDUAL PIECE GO? UM, JUST AS ONE EXAMPLE, THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT
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HAS THE, UH, USDA OFFICES OVER THERE.WHAT DO WE DO WITH THEM? UM, AND THEN OF COURSE WE'VE GOT ECONOMIC SUPPORT, THE VA'S OFFICE, UH, THE, UM, UH, THE A DRC, SO ON AND SO FORTH.
SO THERE'S, YOU, YOU CAN, THIS IS WHY YOU NEED A COMMITTEE.
'CAUSE YOU CAN GET DOWN INTO THE WEEDS.
IT WILL BE PHASES, THE QUESTION IS IT 1, 2, 3 OR FOUR PHASES, I BELIEVE? AND THEN, UM, THAT'S WHY IT WORKS IN TANDEM WITH THE LARGER COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT CONVERSATION BECAUSE NOW YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT CREATE, STARTING TO PUT PROPERTY BACK ON THE TAX ROLL.
HOW FAST CAN THAT GENERATE REVENUE TO HELP PAY OFFSET THE COST, IF YOU WILL, FOR THE MOVE? OKAY.
SO THAT'S ALL A LONG WAY OF SAYING WHAT YOU APPROVED THE OTHER NIGHT GIVES YOU NUMBER ONE, THE FULL PRINCIPLE AND INTEREST PAYMENT TO MAKE THAT FIRST MOVE THAT WE JUST TALKED ABOUT.
AND IT ALLOWS FOR A LARGE PORTION OF THE PRINCIPAL AND INTEREST PAYMENT FOR A SECOND MOVE, WHICH LIKELY INCLUDES A, A NEW CONSTRUCTION OF SOME SORT.
WE DON'T HAVE ENOUGH ROOM, UH, ON EXISTING FOOTPRINT.
SO YOU'VE, YOU'VE DEFINITELY GOT TWO PHASES.
UH, IT COULD BE MORE AND YOU HAVE A HELL OF A DOWNSWING PRINCIPLE AND INTEREST WITHOUT RAISING TAXES WITH THE MOVE THAT, UH, YOU JUST APPROVED THE LAST WEEK.
SO I BELIEVE THIS IS THE GROUP THAT'S GOTTA KIND OF THINK THROUGH.
DO WE WANT TO TRY TO BITE IT ALL OFF IN A SECOND PHASE? ARE WE, WOULD WE PREFER TO DO STEP TWO, STEP THREE SO WE CAN CHEW A LITTLE BIT AND SWALLOW? UM, THERE'S PROS AND CONS TO BOTH AND WE'RE ALREADY STARTING TO HAVE THE CONVERSATIONS ABOUT, WELL, WE SAID WE WERE GONNA BORROW 5 MILLION.
MAYBE YOU WANT TO THINK ABOUT SEVEN BECAUSE WHEN THE WALLS OPEN, YOU KNOW, CHANGE THE ELECTRICAL, THEN DON'T WAIT TO DO IT UNTIL LATER.
I DON'T KNOW IF THAT ANSWER YOUR QUESTION, BUT IT'S COMPLICATED ANSWER.
'CAUSE IT'S A COMPLICATED QUESTION.
'CAUSE I GUESS FOR, FOR MY POINT OF VIEW, UM, WE GOT RID OF ANNEX TWO, WE GOT RID OF, UH, SAMARITAN AS FAR AS IT'S NOT PART OF OUR PLAN ANYMORE.
UM, WE ARE LOOKING AT THE PAC.
THAT BUILDING IS APPROACHING, WHAT, 40, 50 YEARS OLD? NO, 25.
WE'RE GONNA START SEEING AIR CONDITIONING, ROOFING WINDOWS.
WE'RE THERE, WE'RE WE'RE AT A LOT OF DIFFERENT YES, UH, COSTS ASSOCIATED WITH THAT.
UM, LIKE WE HAD WITH SAMARITANS.
SO, AND THEN YOU ALSO HAVE FAIR PARK THE POSSIBILITY OF THAT CLOSING.
HAVE YOU GOTTEN ANY KIND OF TIMELINE ON THAT, BY THE WAY? FAIR PARK CLOSURE? YEAH.
UM, I BELIEVE THE REFERENDUM STATED, UH, IT'S GOT TWO SCHOOL YEARS LEFT.
I THINK IT'S EITHER 26, 27 OR 27, 28.
WEREN'T WE LOOKING AT POSSIBLY A PUBLIC AGENCY BUILDING ON THAT SITE? UM, YOU RECALL? NOT ON THAT PARTICULAR SITE.
I BELIEVE THE MASTER, WELL, DIFFERENT ITERATIONS OF THE MASTER PLAN HAD ADDITIONS TO THIS BUILDING.
SO IF YOU M IF YOU REMEMBER THE, YEAH, THE, IF YOU THINK OF THE, THE CAMPUS FROM AN AERIAL PHOTOGRAPHY, ANYBODY'S INTERESTED IN THAT KIND OF THING.
UH, HAPPY BIRTHDAY, UH, TO YOUR PROFESSION.
UM, IF YOU THINK ABOUT IT FROM A, FROM AN AERIAL VIEW, IF WE WERE FLYING A DRONE OVER THE COUNTY OWNS EVERYTHING FROM WHERE YOU'RE SITTING EAST, ALL THE WAY TO, UM, UH, ROLF'S ROLF'S ROAD.
SO, UH, WE HAVE A HECK OF A LOT OF PROPERTY IN THAT DIRECTION.
AND BASICALLY EVERYTHING FROM HERE TO THE OLD SCHMIDT ROAD, UM, THAT WOULD ALL, THAT ALL HAS THE POTENTIAL TO BE FILLED IN NEW, NEW HUMAN SERVICES EXPANSION OF THE JAIL.
UM, I THINK AT ONE POINT THERE WAS CONTEMPLATION OF AN ADMINISTRATIVE WING THAT DIRECTION.
SO EVERYTHING WAS ALWAYS THOUGHT TO GO EAST.
I MEAN, 'CAUSE IT'S JUST MY THOUGHT THAT IF WE'RE COMING INTO THE SECOND PHASE WHERE YOU ARE GOING TO BE, UH, I'D LIKE TO SEE EVERYTHING ON THE SOUTH SIDE OF 33, GONE, LIKE OFF THE COUNTY.
WHEN WE'VE TALKED ABOUT THIS IN THE PAST, I SAY, YOU KNOW, I, WE ALL, THERE'S A LOT OF LAND THAT WE OWN THERE, AND QUITE FRANKLY, 33 IS SOMEWHAT OF A BARRIER FOR HOW WE WORK TOGETHER AND, YOU KNOW, UH, HOW WE EFFICIENTLY WORK TOGETHER.
UM, AND, AND HAVING THE PAC OVER ON THIS SIDE OF 33, UH, I THINK WOULD CERTAINLY IMPROVE OUR EFFICIENCY AND OUR FLOW.
UM, AND IF WE'RE GETTING TO A POINT WHERE WE'RE TALKING ABOUT A LOT OF COSTS ASSOCIATED WITH THE CURRENT BUILDING, YOU KNOW, IT, IT MIGHT BE TIME TO KIND OF START PUSHING
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THAT A LITTLE QUICKER, UM, AND AGREE WITH YOUR UNDER AND A CONSIDERATION IS WE'RE LUCKY NOBODY'S GOTTEN HIT BY A CAR CROSSING THAT STREET, RIGHT.UM, I'M NOT FAMILIAR WITH HOW THE GOVERNMENT WORKS IN A SCENARIO LIKE THIS AT SUCH A HIGH SCALE, UM, FROM THE CORPORATE WORLD.
I GUESS WE WOULD LOOK AT A, UM, AN EXECUTIVE SUMMARY OF SORTS, JUST KIND OF A HIGH LEVEL, SOME OF THE THINGS YOU JUST BROUGHT UP.
THIS IS WHAT THIS WOULD LOOK LIKE IF WE DID PHASE ONE AND THEN PHASE TWO, THIS WOULD LOOK LIKE IF WE DID ALL PHASES AT ONE TIME.
AGAIN, HIGH LEVEL EXECUTIVE SUMMARY.
SO THEN THIS DISCUSSION, WE'LL GET INTO THE WEEDS TONIGHT AS FAR AS, YOU KNOW, I'D LIKE TO SEE THIS OR I'D LIKE TO SEE THAT, KEEP IT AT A HIGH LEVEL WITH SOME OF THAT, SOME OF THE EXACT THINGS YOU MENTIONED IS, DOES THAT HAPPEN? AND THAT THAT'S THE, THAT'S THE, THE CONVERSATION WE'RE HAVING RIGHT NOW IS DOES THIS GROUP WANT TO DO THAT DISCUSSION? DO YOU WANT TO HAVE AN AD HOC COMMITTEE DO THAT DISCUSSION? AND THEN WHAT HAPPENS WITH THE, WE WANNA PUT 33 THINGS SOUTH, 33 ON THE TAX ROLL.
WHO HAS THAT DISCUSSION? YEAH.
IS IT THIS GROUP? IS IT TASK FORCE? UM, I, I THINK THE CHAIRMAN AND I ARE IN THE SAME PAGE.
I DON'T MEAN TO PUT WORDS IN YOUR MOUTH, BUT I THINK IT'S, IT'S A BOTH.
AND, UM, WHERE DO YOU DRAW THE LINE? I THAT'S UP, THAT'S REALLY UP TO YOU GUYS.
SO WE'RE BLESSED TO HAVE TWO PEOPLE IN CONSTRUCTION AT THIS TABLE, AND NEITHER ONE OF THEM HAVE MIS SPOKEN YET.
NO, YOU, YOU HAD YOUR HAND UP FIRST, ACTUALLY.
SO AS, AS I, I APPRECIATE YOUR POINT WITH REGARD TO THE EXECUTIVE SUMMARY, BUT REALLY WE ARE THE EXECUTIVE COMMITTEE.
SO IT REALLY IS OUR, OUR ISSUE TO, TO WRESTLE WITH.
NOW THAT BEING SAID, HAVING BEEN IN, IN OTHER BOARDS WHERE YOU WALK IN FIVE YEARS DOWN THE ROAD AND THEY SAID, WELL, NO, WE DECIDED THAT 10 YEARS AGO, THIS IS HOW IT'S GONNA BE.
WELL, IT DOESN'T MAKE SENSE ANYMORE, BUT EVERYBODY'S BEEN DOING IT BECAUSE, WELL, THAT'S WHAT THE GROUP SAID AT THAT POINT.
SO AS FAR AS DOING EVERYTHING IN TWO PHASES, I THINK IS QUITE PRESUMPTIVE TO SAY THAT WE ARE GOING TO KNOW NOW WHAT ABSOLUTELY SHOULD HAPPEN.
UM, BUT TOO OFTEN I THINK FUTURE BOARDS HANDS ARE TIED BY POOR DECISIONS THAT CURRENT BOARDS MAKE.
AND I WOULD NOT WANT TO DO THAT TO SOMEBODY ELSE.
THAT BEING SAID, UM, AS WE GO FORWARD, I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT THAT WE DO GET COMMUNITY INPUT FROM THE STAKEHOLDERS.
BUT IT'S MY OPINION THAT WITH REGARD TO THE CLOSING OF THE, UH, UW, UM, WASHINGTON COUNTY CAMPUS, THERE WERE INDIVIDUALS ON THE TASK FORCE THAT REALLY DIDN'T UNDERSTAND WHAT THE PARAMETERS WERE THAT THEY WERE DEALING WITH.
THEY THOUGHT THAT IT WOULD BE EASY, WELL, WE JUST, WE WANNA DO THIS, WE WANNA DO THAT, WE WANNA DO THAT.
WHETHER OR NOT IT WAS POSSIBLE, THEY DIDN'T REALLY HAVE THE UNDERSTANDING OF, OF WHAT THEY COULD DO WITHIN THE EXISTING LAWS.
AND SO I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT THAT WHOEVER WE GET INVOLVED IS INFORMED ENOUGH OR BECOMES INFORMED ENOUGH DURING THE PROCESS THAT A, WE DON'T MAKE BAD DECISIONS FOR THE FUTURE.
B, WE SPLIT IT UP SO WE'RE DOING THINGS IN A TIMELY WAY.
AND C PEOPLE UNDERSTAND WHAT'S ACTUALLY POSSIBLE AND LEGAL AT ANY GIVEN POINT.
AND AS WE FOUND OUT LAST WEEK, IS IMPORTANT TO ALL OF US TO STAY WITHIN OUR MEANS.
THAT, THAT'S ALWAYS THE GOAL, RIGHT? LIVE WITHIN OUR MEANS.
UM, I GUESS I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW, SINCE WE BROUGHT THIS UP FOR DISCUSSION, WHEN WOULD YOU LIKE THE COMMITTEE TO START? I MEAN, COULD THE EXECUTIVE COMMITTEE TAKE IT ON? AND IF WE DO IT, WE HAVE TO DO IT IN A AD HOC MEETINGS OUTSIDE OF THE EXECUTIVE COMMITTEE MEETING? YEAH.
I MEAN, IT'S, IT'S 4 34 NOW,
SO I, I THINK THE, THE HAVING THIS GROUP BEGIN TO WORK THROUGH AND, AND SCOTT AND HIS TEAM HAVE ALREADY BEGUN, UH, THE PROCESS FOR THAT PHASE ONE.
I THINK IF YOU, SOME OF YOU WERE ON THE COMMITTEE WHEN THE REMODELING OF THIS ROOM WAS HAPPENING, I THINK HAVING SOME LEVEL OF INVOLVEMENT AND, AND, UH, CONTINUAL REPORTING AND UPDATING FROM SCOTT, WHICH I THOUGHT WAS VERY, VERY HELPFUL.
SOMETIMES IT GETS TEDIOUS, BUT I THINK THAT THE TYPE OF THING THAT AS, AS, UH, THE VICE CHAIR POINTED OUT, LIKE, THAT'S YOUR FUNCTION, THAT'S, YOU DON'T WANT ME DOING THAT.
AND QUITE HONESTLY, I DON'T WANT TO BE DOING THAT.
SO, UM, I, I DO THINK THAT NEEDS TO BEGIN POST-HASTE, UH, I EVEN BEGINNING
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NEXT MONTH ALREADY HAVING SOME OF THOSE, OR JANUARY AT THE LATEST, HAVING SOME OF THOSE CONVERSATIONS.UM, TO, TO GET BACK TO THE PHASE TWO, PHASE THREE.
AGAIN, INITIALLY I THOUGHT THIS WAS GONNA TAKE LONGER.
UM, I, I REALLY AM STARTING TO THINK THIS COULD HAPPEN RELATIVELY QUICKLY.
I, I REALIZE YOU GUYS HAVE, UH, REELECTIONS THAT YOU'LL STARE DOWN THE BARREL OF ABOUT A YEAR FROM NOW.
UM, BUT IN THAT NEXT TERM, I MEAN, I THINK LEGI LEGITIMATELY, YOU COULD BE LOOKING AT AND TALKING ABOUT ON THE NEXT CONSTRUCTION PROJECT.
I MEAN, WE'VE ABSOLUTELY SET THE STAGE FINANCIALLY FOR YOU TO DO IT.
UM, IT'S COMPLETELY WITHIN REACH.
THE BIGGER QUESTION IS GONNA BE DO WE BITE THE WHOLE APPLE AND TRY TO SWALLOW IT IN ONE FALSE SWOOP OR DO WE BREAK, SLICE IT UP INTO PIECES AND TRY TO TAKE IT A LITTLE AT A TIME.
AND I THINK THERE'S GONNA BE PROS AND CONS TO BOTH.
AND IT PROBABLY IS GONNA COME DOWN TO HOW MUCH EXTRA PRINCIPLE AND INTEREST ARE WE WILLING TO TAX FOR.
YOU KNOW, THAT'S I THINK REALLY GONNA BE THE GIST OF YOUR DISCUSSION ONCE YOU KICK IT OVER TO THIS OTHER GROUP POTENTIALLY, UM, THEY WILL HELP ANSWER SOME OF THE QUESTIONS OF WHAT'S POSSIBLE.
AND, YOU KNOW, WHAT'S LEGAL ESPECIALLY, THAT'S THE IMPORTANCE IN MY OPINION, OF HAVING THE CITY IN THE LOOP ON, YOU KNOW, IN THE GAME AT THE TABLE.
UM, AND I WOULD ANTICIPATE IF YOU START NOW WITH PHASE ONE, THIS ISN'T GONNA END FOR THIS COMMITTEE.
IF, IF THAT'S WHAT YOU'RE ALL SUGGESTING, THIS ISN'T GONNA END FOR THIS COMMITTEE FOR PROBABLY THE NEXT THREE OR FOUR YEARS, UH, AT, ON THE SHORT END, UH, IT'S POSSIBLE IT'S FIVE OR 10.
IT JUST IS A CONTINUAL, IT CONTINUES GOING UNTIL THE, THE EVERYTHING'S BUILT OUT NOW FROM THE GOVERNMENT SIDE, FROM THE CORPORATE, THE GOVERNMENT CORPORATION SIDE.
IT'S DONE IN THREE OR FOUR YEARS, VERY POSSIBLE.
UM, BUT I, I, SO FOR THAT REASON ALONE, I THINK YOU, I, MY RECOMMENDATION IS YOU START NOW, WE'LL BE, WE'LL BE COMING TO YOU IN, I THINK WE JUST TALKED ABOUT JANUARY, JANUARY FOR THE BORROWING RESOLUTIONS, WHICH MEANS BY FEBRUARY, I THINK THEY'RE FEBRUARY BOARD AND THEN MARCH.
SO FINAL APPROVALS OF THAT DEBT WILL BE IN MARCH, WHICH MEANS STUFF IS GONNA START MOVING.
YOU'LL LIKE PHYSICALLY START SEEING MOVES HAPPENING IN CONSTRUCTION HAPPENING.
I, I MEAN, YOU KNOW BETTER THAN ANYBODY.
THAT MEANS YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT 'EM NOW.
WELL, I GUESS, I MEAN, I WOULDN'T MIND THROWING MY HAT IN THE RING WITH MY BACKGROUND IN CONSTRUCTION TO BE ON THAT COMMITTEE.
I JUST DON'T KNOW WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE YET.
AND YOU KNOW WHERE WE'RE GONNA START.
WELL, YOU'LL HAVE AN INSIDER'S VIEW THAT NOBODY EVEN ELSE ON THIS COMMITTEE WILL HAVE BY WORKING WITH SCOTT SO CLOSELY.
BUT, UM, I THINK AS DEMONSTRATED WITH THIS, THE RECONSTRUCTION OF THIS ROOM, UM, IT WON'T, IT WON'T BE QUITE SO EXECUTIVE SUMMARY LEVEL, BUT IT ALSO ISN'T GOING TO BE, YOU KNOW, ROLLING OUT THE BREW BLUEPRINTS EVERY MONTH.
AND YOU KNOW WHAT, WHERE, WHY ARE WE PUTTING THAT WALL THERE INSTEAD OF OVER HERE? LIKE WE, IT'S A NICE MEDIUM.
NO, YOU CAN JUST START, LIKE YOU SAID WITH THE OVERVIEW.
WHAT DO YOU WANT TO TACKLE? AND THEN LIKE YOU SAY, PIECE IT TOGETHER AND, AND I DON'T MEAN THE UNDERSELL PHASE ONE, WHAT WHAT SCOTT IS DRAWN UP WITH ARCHITECTS FOR PHASE ONE IS IT IS A CHUNK.
I MEAN, IT IS A, IT'S A VERY BIG MOVE FOR US.
I MEAN, WE'RE ESSENTIALLY SHIFTING THE WHOLE FLOW AND FUNCTION OF HOW ALL THESE BUILDINGS WORK.
WE'RE, WE'RE ESSENTIALLY FLIPPING IT.
UM, IT'S, AND THAT WILL TAKE, IT'S GONNA TAKE A LOT OF COORDINATION AND, AND ALL OF THAT STUFF ON THE CONSTRUCTION SIDE AS ESPECIALLY THE TWO OF YOU CAN APPRECIATE.
BUT THEN THE, LIKE THE CITIZEN, THE CUSTOMER SIDE, IT'S GOING, WE'RE GONNA HAVE PEOPLE POUNDING ON THAT DOOR.
I, I PROMISED YOU FOR YEARS TRYING TO GET IN, IT'S GONNA BE LOCKED.
SO WE'RE, IT'LL, THIS IS GONNA TAKE TIME.
I'M, I'M QUITE CERTAIN IN 15 YEARS SOMEBODY'S GONNA BE KNOCKING ON THAT DOOR FOR A DEATH CERTIFICATE OR SOMETHING.
IT'LL PROBABLY BE BECAUSE WE HAVE TO SET MIND AND HEY, I'M USED TO COMING IN OVER HERE.
YEAH, THAT'S EXACTLY, IT'S JUST SHOT.
IT'S JUST SHOT AGAIN, NO BIG DEAL.
SO I DON'T HAVE PURVIEW TO WHAT THE AGENDA LOOKS LIKE FOR THIS COMMITTEE, UM, IN DECEMBER, BUT IS IT A QUIET TIME? IS DO WE ACTUALLY GET STARTED LOOKING AT THE HIGH LEVEL IN DECEMBER? YES.
UM, IS IT OPERATIONALLY, IS IT PART OF AN EXECUTIVE COMMITTEE OR IS IT A SEPARATE SPECIAL EXECUTIVE? THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT WE WERE DEBATING AND WANTED YOU TO DISCUSS.
I'M ALMOST THINKING IT SHOULD BE THAT SHOULD BE SEPARATE.
'CAUSE THAT MIGHT TAKE SOME TIME.
THERE'S GONNA BE A LOT OF BACK AND FORTH AND FEEDBACK AND BRAINSTORMING.
AND THE AGENDA IS, I MEAN, YOU COULD SPEND HOURS ON THAT ONE TOPIC.
YOU CAN KICK IT OFF, LIKE YOU SAID, MIKE, ONE AT A TIME.
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THE EXECUTIVE, YOU KNOW, RUNNING THE COUNTY SURE.SO, UH, I DON'T THINK WE WANNA TACKLE THAT IN OUR MEETINGS, BUT I DO FEEL THAT THIS BODY IS THE ONE THAT SHOULD DO IT.
WE'LL JUST HAVE SEPARATE MEETINGS AND, AND THAT'S EXACTLY WHERE I WAS GONNA GO, MR. CHAIRMAN.
UM, I THINK THIS COMMITTEE SHOULD CERTAINLY BE THE ROOT OF THE ADVISORY COMMITTEE AND THAT I DO BELIEVE WE SHOULD HAVE WEST BEND, UH, WE SHOULD HAVE THE SCHOOL DISTRICT.
I THINK THAT MAKES A LOT OF SENSE.
UM, NOT SURE IF THERE'S SOMEBODY ELSE I'M NOT THINKING OVER, WE'RE NOT THINKING OF.
BUT I THINK THAT'S SOMETHING WE SHOULD DEFINITELY TALK OVER.
UM, BUT, UM, I WOULD LIKE TO SEE IT HAPPEN IN JANUARY, STARTING AT THE BEGINNING OF THE NEXT YEAR.
UM, CAN, CAN I ASK A CLARIFYING QUESTION, MR. CHAIRMAN? SO JUST TO GIVE YOU AN ILLUSTRATION OF WHAT, SPECIFICALLY WHAT WE'RE ASKING YOU TO ANSWER.
SO, UM, IN YEARS PAST, AND THIS IS BEFORE ME AND NOTHING IS BEFORE SCOTT SCHMIDT AND ERIC DAMCO, BUT THIS IS BEFORE MY TIME.
UM, WHEN THEY WOULD DO PROJECTS, THE COUNTY BOARD WOULD SET UP A SEPARATE AD HOC COMMITTEE.
SO YOU WOULD TAKE PEOPLE, ESPECIALLY WHO HAVE EXPERTISE.
SO YOU KNOW, SOMEBODY LIKE JOHN, SOMEBODY LIKE BRIAN KREBS, MAYBE SOMEBODY LIKE KEN M**K, UM, THAT ARE, THAT, YOU KNOW, THINK AROUND CONSTRUCTION AND HAVE DIFFERENT V VIEWPOINTS.
AND THAT BODY WOULD THEN MAKE RECOMMENDATIONS BACK UP THROUGH COMMITTEE AND TO THE BOARD.
YOU COULD, YOU KNOW, DELEGATE DOWN TO A SUBCOMMITTEE OF SORTS OR AN AD HOC COMMITTEE.
AL AND AN ALTERNATIVE APPROACH IS THIS BODY IS THAT BODY BECAUSE EVERYTHING THAT SUPERVISOR SCHWAB MENTIONED A FEW MOMENTS AGO, YOU COULD ALSO IN THAT FORMAT, BASICALLY SEND EVERYTHING TO SUPERVISOR SHARAN AS COMMITTEE CHAIR.
AND HE AND SCOTT COULD KINDA WORK OUT SOME OF THE FINER DETAILS AND THEN COME SOMEWHERE BETWEEN EXECUTIVE SUMMARY AND FINER DETAILS TO THIS GROUP.
UM, I MEAN, I'M SURE THERE'S A THOUSAND MORE WAYS YOU COULD DO IT, BUT THOSE ARE PROBABLY THE TWO CLOSEST TO THE TWO WAYS WE'VE DONE IT IN THE LAST 20 YEARS.
BUT I THINK WE'RE TALKING TWO DIFFERENT THINGS.
YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT THE LAND AROUND US AND INCLUDING THE CITY.
I THINK THE FIRST, AND THAT'S A THIRD DISCUSSION, RIGHT? YEAH.
THE FIRST COMMITTEE OR WHATEVER WE WANT TO CALL IT, DEALS WITH OUR PROPERTY AND OUR BUILDING HERE.
AND THE W WOULD END PHASE ONE, IF YOU WILL.
AND THEN WE DO PROBABLY NEED TO HAVE A SEPARATE TASK FORCE OR WHATEVER YOU WANT TO CALL IT, FOR TWO AND THREE AND TO GO BEYOND THIS PROPERTY.
THAT, THAT ACTUALLY MAKES A LOT, A LOT OF SENSE.
I MEAN, IF WE'RE STARTING OFF WITH ONE, THEN I KIND OF AGREE WITH THE FIRST VICE CHAIRMAN.
I THINK WE'RE, WE'RE, WE'RE FULLY EQUIPPED RIGHT HERE.
I ALSO WORKED IN CONSTRUCTION FOR QUITE A WHILE WITH MY BROTHER, SO YEAH.
YOU KNOW, I'VE DONE THESE TYPES OF THINGS IN MY JOB PLENTY OF TIME.
SO, YOU KNOW, IT'S, I THINK FOR ONE PORTION YEAH, WE'RE GOOD.
AS WE START TO BRANCH OUT TO PHASE TWO AND ALL THE REST OF THAT, I THINK WE BRING IN AND WE DO IT SEPARATELY FROM THIS MEETING.
YOU KNOW, WHICH I, YOU KNOW, I'M NOT BIG ON MORE MEETINGS, BUT I THINK THIS IS IMPORTANT.
SO MIKE, UM, AS WE'RE, AS WE'RE LOOKING AT THIS, IT, IT'S EASY FOR US TO START THINKING IN TERMS OF WHAT BUILDING'S GONNA GO WHERE AND WHO, YOU KNOW, WHAT'S, WHAT'S GONNA BE, YOU KNOW, WHO NEEDS TO BE INVOLVED AND ALL THOSE, THOSE WHICH ARE REALLY DETAILS.
IF WE ARE UNCLEAR UPON THE PRINCIPLES THAT WE'RE DISCUSSING THESE THINGS, WE'RE GONNA MAKE MISTAKES.
AND SO I THINK WE NEED TO SPEND A GOOD AMOUNT OF TIME AT THE BEGINNING FIGURING OUT WHAT AREAS ARE OPEN TO US, HOW MUCH DO WE REALLY NEED, WHAT ARE OUR PRIORITIES? IS IT A PRIORITY OF GOVERNMENT THAT WE HAVE A LOT OF LAND, OR IS IT A PRIORITY OF GOVERNMENT THAT WE OPERATE AS EFFICIENTLY AS POSSIBLE? BECAUSE ONCE WE DECIDE THOSE GUIDING PRINCIPLES, WE'LL BE ABLE TO FIGURE OUT, IT'LL MAKE DECIDING WHAT TO DO WITH EACH INDIVIDUAL PARCEL THAT MUCH EASIER.
AND SO I WOULD JUST CAUTION US AS WE GO FORWARD TO SPEND A LEGITIMATE AMOUNT OF TIME FIGURING THAT OUT.
EINSTEIN SAID, IF I NOW WERE TO SAVE THE WORLD, I'D SPEND 55 MINUTES FIGURING OUT THE PROBLEM AND THEN FIVE MINUTES SOLVING A PROBLEM.
AND IT'S KIND OF THE SAME THING.
WE REALLY DO NEED TO FIGURE OUT WHAT OUR GUIDING PRINCIPLES AND PRIORITIES ARE SO THAT AS WE PLAN FOR THE NEXT 500 YEARS OF WASHINGTON COUNTY MM-HMM.
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WITH THE LONG-TERM NEEDS OF THE COUNTY IN MIND.AND, AND I WOULD POINT OUT ONE OF THE THINGS IN THAT PRINCIPLED CONVERSATION HAS TO BE THE QUALITY OF WHAT YOU BUILD.
BECAUSE WHAT WE'VE LEARNED FROM THE LAST SEVERAL PROJECTS IS GARBAGE IN GARBAGE OUT'S A REAL DEAL AND THERE'S NO BETTER REPRESENTATION THAN THE PUBLIC AGENCY CENTER.
SO IT MIGHT COST YOU AN EXTRA 25% TO HAVE, YOU KNOW, THE HIGHER GRADE, WHATEVER.
BUT 30 YEARS LATER YOU LOOK BACK AND YOU GO, BOY, I WISH I WOULD'VE SPENT THE EXTRA 25 THEN.
'CAUSE THAT 25% OF 9 MILLION IS A HELL OF A LOT CHEAPER THAN 75% OF 30 MILLION.
BUT THAT IS A PRINCIPLED DISCUSSION TOO.
I ALWAYS SAY THERE'S CONSERVATIVE AND THERE'S CHEAP.
SUPERVISOR CHADRON, IF I CAN ADD TO THAT, THINK ABOUT THE BONES OF THIS BUILDING AND HOW OLD IT IS, AND WE'VE REMODELED IT A DOZEN TIMES.
AND THAT CLEARLY WAS A DIFFERENT PHILOSOPHY IN 1960 WHEN THEY BUILT THIS COMPARED TO THE 1990S WHEN THEY BUILT THAT.
THIS ROOF DOESN'T LEAK
FIND MANY COMPONENTS TO WHY THAT DOESN'T HAPPEN.
ROOFS AND THE TUCK POINTING AND THE WINDOWS AND THE HVAC AND EVERY, I MEAN MATERIALS.
SO, BUT THAT'S, LIKE I SAID, THOSE ARE IN THE WEEDS DISCUSSIONS WE CAN HAVE.
BUT TO SUPERVISOR SCHWAB'S POINT, YOU, YOU SET OUT FROM THE START, YOU KNOW, WE WANT THIS GREAT OF QUALITY, IT MAKES IT, IT TAKES OUT THAT MOST OF THE CONVERSATION HONESTLY.
WELL THEN HERE'S WHAT YOU'RE GETTING.
WELL, CAN WE DO IT CHEAPER? WELL, YES, BUT OUR PRINCIPLE WAS RIGHT.
SO WHAT HAVE WE DECIDED, IN MY OPINION, THANK YOU, UM, FOR YOUR INDULGENCE.
UM, WE'VE DECIDED TO START IN JANUARY WITH THIS COMMITTEE, UM, TO INCLUDE OTHER PARTIES AS NEEDED, UM, IN A SEPARATE MEETING BECAUSE RIGHT.
THEORETICALLY, WE, WE HAVE ENOUGH TO DO IN, IN THE REGULAR WORK OF THE EXECUTIVE COMMITTEE THAT THIS IS IMPORTANT ENOUGH TO SET ASIDE A SEPARATE MEETING NOW, WHICH DAY OF THE MONTH THAT IS, OR TWO DAYS OF THE MONTH AS IT MAY DEVELOP.
I'M NOT CERTAIN WE CAN HAVE KAYLA DO A DOODLE POOL OR WHATEVER AND REACH A TIME THAT WORKS FOR EVERYONE.
HOW OFTEN DO WE WANT TO MEET? I DON'T WANT TO GET, YOU KNOW, I DON'T WANT TO SLOW DOWN ANY POTENTIAL PROJECT.
BUT ON THE OTHER HAND, I THINK YOUR INITIAL CONVERSATION IN JANUARY AND KNOWING HOW SCOTT OPERATES, JOHN AND SCOTT WILL HAVE ALREADY DONE SOME OF THAT PRELIMINARY.
UH, AND CERTAINLY WE WILL HAVE, AND CHAIRMAN AND I ARE IN CONSTANT COMMUNICATION.
I THINK YOU'LL HAVE A PRETTY GOOD IDEA ONCE YOU HIT JANUARY.
UM, IT'LL PROBABLY, LIKE ALL PROJECTS, IT'LL BE FAST AND THEN SLOW
I THINK WE MIGHT HAVE TO, YOU KNOW, AT LEAST START WITH ONE A MONTH, BUT IT MIGHT HAVE TO BE TWICE A MONTH.
BUT IT ALL DEPENDS ON WHEN YOUR FINAL GOAL OF HANDLING A FINAL ANSWER IS.
YOU GUYS, YOU TWO WILL TALK AND COME IN IN JANUARY AND GO, YOU KNOW WHAT, IT'S ONCE A MONTH.
AND THEN YOU GET TO THE SECOND ONE AND YOU GO AT, YOU KNOW WHAT, MAYBE WE SHOULD DO IT TWICE A MONTH FOR A WHILE AND THEN WIND IT BACK DOWN.
I MEAN, YOU HAVE, YOU ALL HAVE THE FLEXIBILITY, ESPECIALLY WITH KAYLA TO BE ABLE TO BE A LITTLE BIT NIMBLE.
AND THESE WILL NOT BE PUBLIC MEETINGS, SO WE DON'T HAVE TO NOTICE 'EM AND ALL, ALL THAT.
OH NO, THEY'RE PUBLIC MEETINGS.
OH YEAH, THEY'RE PUBLIC MEETINGS.
WHAT ABOUT ACTUALLY LOOKING AT A DATE AND TIME, UH, FOR JANUARY TO CLOSE OUT THE DISCUSSION.
UM, WE HAVE BUSINESS TO CONDUCT TONIGHT, SO LET'S KIND OF WRAP THIS UP.
I WAS JUST GONNA, THE, THE ONLY OTHER QUESTION I WOULD HAVE AND, AND IF, IF I'M JUMPING THE GUN, I APOLOGIZE.
BUT, UM, WHAT I'M HEARING, IF I'M HEARING THIS CORRECTLY, WE BROKE THIS INTO TWO SEGMENTS, THE MASTER PLAN AND THE COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT COMPONENT.
WE'VE ADDRESSED THE MASTER PLAN FROM WHAT I'M HEARING YOU SAY, THE COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT COMPONENT.
IF I'M HEARING YOU CORRECTLY, CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, THE CHAIRMAN AND I CAN GO BACK TO THE DRAWING BOARD ON A TASK FORCE AND WE CAN WORK TOGETHER ON OUR NORMAL PROCEDURE FOR DEVELOPING A TASK FORCE.
BUT IT'S GONNA BE A, A COMBINATION, SO TO SPEAK, OF THIS GROUP AND COMMUNITY MEMBERS, INCLUDING THE CITY AND THE SCHOOL DISTRICT.
JUST TO, TO ADD TO THAT, I THINK WE NEED TO ESTABLISH WHAT OUR NEEDS ARE FIRST.
LIKE MR. TRUMP SAYS, LET'S TAKE CARE OF US FIRST.
STEP ONE, MAYBE IN WASHINGTON COUNTY FIRST.
WELL, WE HAVE TO, WE NEED TO KNOW HOW, OKAY, WHAT ARE WE DEVELOPING FOR? YEAH.
HOW FAR ARE WE GONNA GO? HOW MUCH LAND DO WE NEED? AND TO THAT POINT,
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WE CAN WHAT, IN THE MEANTIME, WE CAN COME BACK IN DECEMBER AND GIVE YOU A, A THUMBNAIL ON WHAT DO WE NEED AND HOW, HOW WILL THAT WORK? AND MAYBE BY THEN, UH, THIS IS WHAT WE, MAYBE NOT THE NAMES, BUT HERE'S THE THUMBNAIL OF WHAT THE, THE, THE SEATS ARE FOR THE TASK FORCE.ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? THANK YOU FOR YOUR INPUT, SIR.
UM, NEXT UP IS USE OF ARPA FOR MULTIPLE ITEMS. UM, THIS IS A COMMITTEE REPORT FROM
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THE EXECUTIVE.I'M ACTUALLY GOING TO, WE HAVE, UH, UH, A DESIGN THERE FOR YOU, SO TO SPEAK.
UM, THERE HAVE BEEN A NUMBER OF DEVELOPMENTS ACTUALLY IN THE LAST 48 HOURS, UH, THAT, UM, HAVE ME POTENTIALLY MAKING SOME SIGNIFICANT CHANGES TO THAT.
SO, UH, WITH YOUR PERMISSION, I'LL KICK IT TO DECEMBER.
WE HAVE TO MAKE DECISIONS BY DECEMBER.
UM, BUT I WILL TAKE THE GRACE OF THAT EXTRA MONTH AND COME BACK TO YOU, UH, WITH A LITTLE BIT MORE CLARITY ON WHAT, WHERE THOSE DOLLARS ARE GOING TO BE ALLOCATED.
I WOULD MOTION TO POSTPONE TO DECEMBER.
WELL, IT'S NOT A MOTION, SO I DON'T THINK WE NEED TO DO THAT MOTION, YOU HONOR, COME BACK ON AGENDA.
YEAH, WE'LL COME BACK NEXT MONTH.
OUR NEXT ITEM IS VOIDING STALE CHECKS A REAL BARN BURNER AFTER WHAT YOU
[f. 2024 Resolution: Voiding Stale Checks]
JUST, AND FOR THAT WE NEED A MOTION AND STOPPING FOR I'M AT THE EDGE M MY SEAT MOTION.UM, MOTION BY SUPERVISOR SCHWAB, SECOND BY SUPERVISOR SHARIN.
JUST WANT TO SEE AND MAKE SURE MY NAME'S NOT ON HERE BEFORE WE HEARD THEM.
I SAW SOME FOR THE VILLAGE OF GERMANTOWN.
WE'VE, WE'VE DISCUSSED WITH, UM, ALL OF THE PEOPLE ON THIS AND ACTUALLY REISSUED SOME CHECKS.
SO THIS WILL TAKE CARE OF US THROUGH THE YEAR 2022 AND MAKE THOSE ALL CURRENT.
SO, SO NOT TO TAKE A LOT OF TIME, BUT WHY DO WE HAVE ALL THESE VOIDED CHECKS? WELL, THESE ARE STALE CHECKS.
SO THESE ARE CHECKS THAT PEOPLE HAVE NOT CASHED.
UM, MOST OF THEM ARE, I SHOULDN'T SAY MOST, MOST OF THEM ARE JURY DUTY.
UM, AND I BELIEVE THEY'RE EITHER LOST IN SOMEBODY'S CAR ON THE WAY HOME OR THEY, OR THEY HAVEN'T.
UM, THEY THINK THEY'RE DONATING IT BACK
I SAW SOME RATHER LARGE ONES FOR GERMANTOWN.
MOST OF THOSE HAVE BEEN TAKEN OUT SINCE THE LAST DRAFT.
SO WE WERE AT, OH YEAH, ABOUT $8,000.
ANY DISCUSSION OR QUESTIONS? ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
ANY OPPOSED? PASSES UNANIMOUSLY.
OUR NEXT ITEM IS THE RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING WASHINGTON COUNTY
[g. 2024 Resolution: Resolution Authorizing the Washington County Geographic Information Systems (GIS) Department to Provide GIS Services to the City of Hartford as Part of the Washington County Shared Revenue Grant Program]
GIS.MOTION SUPERVISOR SICE MAKES THE MOTION.
SO THIS IS THE SECOND WHAT AND WHAT WILL LIKELY BE A SERIES OF SHARED SERVICE AGREEMENTS RELATED TO, TO GIS WITH THE APPROVAL THAT YOU, UM, GAVE TO THE CITY OF WEST BEND AT YOUR LAST COUNTY BOARD MEETING.
UM, THIS IS PROVIDING THE SAME SERVICE FOR THE CITY OF HARTFORD.
SO HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS, BUT WE'RE, WE'RE EXCITED AND DEFINITELY LOOKING FORWARD TO ROLLING OUT GIS SERVICES TO ANY COMMUNITY WHO'S WILLING TO PARTNER WITH US.
SO THE OBVIOUS QUESTION IS, UH, WITH WEST BEND WE HAD KIND OF ARRANGEMENT THAT FILLED THE POSITION OR PAID FOR THE POSITION.
UM, AT WHAT POINT HERE DO YOU NEED ANOTHER PERSON TO DO THIS EXTRA WORK? SO WE HAVE PLANS TO HIRE AN ADDITIONAL PERSON FOR THE GIS DEPARTMENT ALREADY.
UM, WE WILL DEFINITELY BE ABLE TO TAKE ON CITY OF WEST BEND AND CITY OF HARTFORD WITH THAT PERSON.
UH, THE CITY OF HARTFORD'S GIS FOOTPRINT IS SIGNIFICANTLY SMALLER THAN THE CITY OF WEST BEND ONLY BECAUSE I THINK THAT IT'S JUST A NEWER PROGRAM THERE, IT'S JUST NOT AS EVOLVED AS THIS AS, AS THE CITY OF WEST BEND.
UM, AS WE ROLL IT OUT, IT DEFINITELY COULD GROW AND WE'LL HAVE THAT CONVERSATION WHEN IT OCCURS.
BUT I WOULD THINK THAT, YOU KNOW, FOR LIKE, WE'RE GOOD FOR A WHILE, UM, WITH THE, WE'RE ABLE TO ADD
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ON THE SMALL TOWNS AND THE, THE, THE SIMPLE REQUESTS THAT WE'VE BEEN GETTING RECENTLY.IT'S ONLY IF WE, LIKE, IF WE WOULD GET, IF WE WOULD GET LIKE EVERYBODY ON AND, AND THEIR CURRENT USE OF GIS WOULD WOULD GROW SUBSTANTIALLY.
THAT'S, THAT'S WHEN WE NEED TO START TALKING AGAIN.
BUT I'M COMFORTABLE, I'M DEFINITELY COMFORTABLE TAKING ON THE, THE MUNICIPALITIES THAT WE ARE, WE ARE ALREADY WORKING ON WITH OUR EXISTING STAFF OF THREE PLUS THE ONE THAT WE'LL BE ADDING.
AND, AND SO YOU'RE SAYING THAT GIS IS A TYPE OF THING THAT AS YOU START TO USE IT AND YOU GET COMFORTABLE WITH IT, YOU FIND OTHER USES AND IT KIND OF SNOWBALLS.
SO HOPEFULLY WHAT WE'RE DOING ACTUALLY MAKES THE, UM, THE MUNICIPALITIES MORE EFFICIENT IN WHAT THEY DO.
SO WE'RE ABLE TO, UM, YOU KNOW, PUT A SYSTEM IN THE HANDS OF THE PERSON WHO IS IN THE FIELD INSTALLING THE SIGN OR, OR, OR DOING THE, THE ROAD WORK OR THE UTILITY WORK OR WHATEVER.
IF WE'RE ABLE TO PUT AN APPLICATION IN THEIR HAND THAT THEY'RE ABLE TO COLLECT THE INFORMATION OUT IN THE FIELD, IT MAKES THEM MORE EFFICIENT.
THE INFORMATION THAT THEY HAVE IS MORE EFFICIENT.
UM, BUT IT TAKES STAFF TIME ON OUR PART TO ACTUALLY CREATE THAT APPLICATION FOR THEM.
SO YOU'RE SEEING AN INCREASE IN STAFF ON THE BACKEND TO CREATE THOSE SYSTEMS. UM, BUT THEN HOPEFULLY IT MAKES ALL OF THE FRONTLINE, UM, MORE EFFICIENT IN WHAT THEY DO AND ALSO GIVES THE MANAGERS AND THE ELECTEDS AND EVERYTHING MORE INFORMATION TO, TO MAKE WISE DECISIONS.
ANY DISCUSSION OR QUESTIONS? UH, ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
ANY OPPOSED? PASSES UNANIMOUSLY.
OUR NEXT ITEM IS USE OF STRATEGIC PRIORITIES, FUNDS FOR LIBRARY SERVICES
[h. Use of Strategic Priorities Funds for Library Services Cost Increases]
COST INCREASES.THIS YOU, I'LL MOVE APPROVAL FOR AARON.
MOTION MOTION BY SUPERVISOR SCHWAB, SECOND BY SUPERVISOR.
TICE, DO WE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? I I CAN JUST PROVIDE A QUICK UPDATE.
IT'S, IT'S THE ANNUAL CONTRACT AMOUNT THAT, THAT YOU ALL APPROVE WITH THE EXHIBIT A THAT WE ATTACH TO THE CONTRACT.
UM, EVERYTHING IN IT IS BASED UPON THE LIBRARY SERVICES CONTRACT THAT WE HAVE WITH ALL OF OUR LIBRARIES HERE IN WASHINGTON COUNTY, UM, REGARDING THEIR FUNDING.
AND, UH, I BELIEVE WE'RE USING THE STRATEGIC PRIORITIES TO FUND THE INCREASE OVER WHAT WE HAD ORIGINALLY BUDGETED WITH THE BIENNIUM BUDGET.
FURTHER DISCUSSION THERE BEING NO, NONE.
UM, NEXT UP IS HART HOMESTEAD MEASURES OF SUCCESS DASHBOARDS.
[i. NGH and Heart & Homestead Measures of Success Dashboards]
THIS IS, UH, SIMPLY A DISCUSSION AND UPDATE PRESENTATION.SO THE FIRST, UM, ITEM IS JUST INFORMATION ONLY.
UM, JUST AN UPDATE ON THE DASHBOARD FOR NEXT GENERATION HOUSING AS WELL AS, UM, HEART AND HOMESTEAD.
AND I DID WANT TO POINT OUT THAT, UM, WE REACHED OUR MAXIMUM, UM, APPLICATIONS FOR THE HEART AND HOMESTEAD AND THIS ROUND OVER THE WEEKEND.
UH, SO THE PORTAL WAS SHUT DOWN, BUT WE DO HAVE A WAIT LIST THAT PEOPLE CAN SIGN ONTO.
UM, SO WE CAN TRACK, UH, THOSE INDIVIDUALS THAT MIGHT BE INTERESTED IN FUTURE, UH, INCENTIVES.
I'D BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MIGHT HAVE ON THE DASHBOARDS QUESTIONS.
SUPERVISOR SCHWAB, I DON'T REALLY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, BUT I LIKE THE WAY IT'S LAID OUT.
IT'S JUST A REALLY GOOD QUICK WAY OF, OF SEEING THE PROGRESS THAT'S BEEN MADE.
UM, NEXT UP IS A HOUSING FRAMEWORK TOOLBOX.
[j. Next Generation Housing Framework Tool Box]
WE DON'T HAVE ANY FRAMEWORK, UM, CHANGES FOR THIS MONTH.UM, IT'S REALLY JUST INFORMATION ABOUT, UH, TWO DIFFERENT TOOLS IN THE NEXT GEN HOUSING TOOLBOX.
UH, THE FIRST ONE I WANNA TALK ABOUT IS THE PERMIT FEE.
WE HAD $600,000 ALLOCATED, UH, TO THE PERMIT FEE INCENTIVE.
UM, AND THAT HAS BEEN, UM, WITH THE APPROVAL OF A FURTHER AGENDA ITEM COMING UP HERE NEXT, UM, THAT WOULD BE, UH, COMPLETELY DEPLETED.
UM, AND WE TALKED ABOUT THE IDEA OF
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WHY HAVE A SEPARATE, UH, FUND FOR JUST THE, THE PERMIT FEES.UM, SO EACH DEVELOPMENT THAT COMES FORWARD REQUESTING FUNDS, UM, CAN BE CONSIDERED FOR, UM, THE $20,000 AS WELL AS A 6,000 AND ANY OF THOSE FUNDS WOULD BE COMING FROM THE GENERAL NEXT GEN HOUSING POT OF MONEY VERSUS HAVING A, A SEPARATE POT OF MONIES JUST SET ASIDE, UM, FOR THE PERMIT FEES.
THE SECOND ITEM THAT I WANTED TO POINT OUT, AND THIS IS A, A BIG THANK YOU TO THE EDWC UM, STAFF, UM, THEY WORKED WITH THEIR BOARD AND GOT THE IMPACT REVOLVING LOAN FUND APPROVED, UM, TO BE UTILIZED FOR NEXT GENERATION HOUSING.
SO A SEGMENT OF THE IMPACT REVOLVING LOAN FUND WILL NOW BE, UH, ABLE TO BE USED, UM, FOR DEVELOPMENTS FOR INFRASTRUCTURE, ET CETERA, UM, IF IT'S A DEVELOPMENT, UH, WITH NEXT GENERATION HOUSING AS A PART OF IT.
UH, SO THIS IS VERY EXCITING NEWS, UM, AND IT CAN CERTAINLY BE UTILIZED AND STACKED, UM, WITH OUR $20,000 INCENTIVE AS WELL AS OUR, UM, 6,000 PERMIT FEE INCENTIVE.
SO, UM, A NEW DIRECTION, UH, A GREAT FOR OUR TOOLBOX AND, UM, THE EDWC STAFF IS NOW WORKING WITH THE, UH, REVOLVING LOAN FUND COMMITTEE AND WORKING THROUGH ALL OF THE DETAILS AND POLICIES, UH, FOR THAT.
AND ONCE THAT IS RESOLVED AND, UM, THE DETAILS WORKED THROUGH, UM, THEN WE'LL BE INCLUDING THAT INFORMATION INTO THE FRAMEWORK QUESTIONS OR DISCUSSION.
WE WILL MOVE ON TO THE GENERAL NEXT GENERATION HOUSING FUND REQUEST BY A AND N FOR PARTRIDGE HOLLOW.
[k. Next Generation Housing Fund Request by A&N for Partridge Hollow]
UH, WE DON'T NEED A MOTION.THIS IS SIMPLY THESE WOULD BE MOTIONS REPORT.
SO MOTION AND A SECOND PLEASE.
SUPERVISOR KELLY, SUPERVISOR SHARIN AND I HAVE QUESTIONS.
UM, SO THERE'S, UM, ACTUALLY TWO REQUESTS FROM ANN AND CONTRACTING.
UM, THEY ARE A BUILDER, UM, THAT IS WORKING ON THE SKYWAY PARK DEVELOPMENT IN THE CITY OF HARTFORD ALREADY.
UM, THEY ARE LOOKING TO EXPAND THEIR BUSINESS INTO, UM, MORE OF A DEVELOPER ROLE AND BUILDING, UM, WHICH IS VERY EXCITING.
UM, AND THEY ARE REQUESTING FUNDS, UM, FOR 16 NEW NEXT GENERATION HOMES IN THE PARTRIDGE HOLLOW SUBDIVISION.
UH, THIS IS AN EXISTING SUBDIVISION THAT HAS THREE OUTTA THE FOUR PHASES COMPLETED.
UM, THEIR WORK WOULD BE ON THAT FOURTH PHASE.
UM, THEY ANTICIPATE THAT, UM, THE INFRASTRUCTURE AND CONSTRUCTION, UM, EVEN THOUGH THERE'S 26 LOTS, UM, 16 OF THOSE LOTS WOULD BE NEXT GENERATION HOMES.
UM, SO THEY'RE REQUESTING $320,000 FOR THOSE 16 LOTS.
THAT'S AT 20,000 PER OWNER OCCUPIED.
AND, UM, THE ADDITIONAL REQUEST IS FOR THE 96,000 FOR THE PERMIT FEE INCENTIVE.
IT IS THE SAME, UM, PROJECT, BUT TWO DIFFERENT REQUESTS.
UM, I WANTED TO POINT OUT, UM, ON THE SCREENING CHECKLIST THAT, UM, UH, NUMBER 10 AND NUMBER 11, UM, ARE BOTH YESES.
AND I ALSO WANTED TO POINT OUT THAT, UM, AT THIS TIME, UM, WE ARE WAITING ON THE CITY OF, UH, HARTFORD TO PROVIDE SOME ADDITIONAL INFORMATION FOR EDWC TO COMPLETE THE ROI IMPACT, UM, ANALYSIS.
UM, TYPICALLY WHEN WE HAVE A REQUEST FOR INFRASTRUCTURE CONSTRUCTION, UH, I HAVE EDWC RUN AN IMPACT ANALYSIS FOR THAT PROJECT, UM, THAT HAS NOT BEEN COMPLETED.
UH, SO IT WOULD REQUEST THAT ON THIS AGENDA ITEM AND THE NEXT AGENDA ITEM THAT, UM, YOU COULD CONDITION THE APPROVAL ON A POSITIVE ROI IMPACT ANALYSIS ONCE THAT IS DONE.
UM, THEY ARE ANTICIPATING CLOSING ON DECEMBER 19TH.
SO THAT IS COMING UP PRETTY QUICK AND I'M HAPPY TO TAKE ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE.
UM, I WOULD NOTE THAT BOTH ITEMS K AND L, MR. CHAIRMAN, UM, CONTAIN THE SAME ATTACHMENT.
CAN YOU TELL ME WHY THAT WOULD BE? RIGHT.
I ACTUALLY, UM, NOTICED THAT PRIOR TO THE, UM, COMMITTEE AND I TALKED WITH THE COUNTY CLERK AND THEY WERE ABLE TO SWITCH OUT, UM, THAT AGENDA ITEM.
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THE SAME ATTACHMENT AND IT'S HARD TO MAKE A DECISION WHEN I DON'T HAVE THE PROPER INFORMATION.SO, MR. CHAIRMAN, I'M, I'M JUST, I IT'S THE SAME PROPERTIES, IS THAT WHAT YOU'RE SAYING? IT IS, IT IS THE EXACT SAME PROJECT.
UM, AND WHAT THEY'RE TRYING TO DO IS STACK THE FUNDING, SO IT WOULD BE $20,000 PER OWNER OCCUPIED, UM, AND THEN THE $6,000 FOR THE PERMIT FEE INCENTIVE.
THAT'S WHY IT'S THE SAME PROPERTY.
BUT YES, THERE, THERE WAS TWO SEPARATE REPORTS, UM, THAT WERE PROVIDED AND, AND I DID NOT RECEIVE ONE OF THOSE REPORTS.
AND, AND THIS IS THE THING I DON'T LIKE, AND I, AND I WILL SAY FOR FUTURE REFERENCE, YOU KNOW, I DON'T LIKE TO SEE THIS KIND OF STUFF HAPPEN THIS WAY.
IF, IF IT, IF I DON'T GET THE INFORMATION AND I MAKE THE WRONG VOTE, I DON'T GET TO TELL THE TAXPAYER'S WALL
THEY KICKED MY BUTT OUTTA OFFICE, SO AM NOT YES.
THE SITUATION OF, AND BOTH REPORTS WERE PROVIDED AND THEN, UH, THE, THE QUESTION 11 AND 10 11, I SAW THAT AS TOO, THAT WAS ONE OF MY OTHER QUESTIONS.
YOU KNOW, WHY THOSE WEREN'T ANSWERED, WHY I DIDN'T HAVE THAT AVAILABLE ALREADY? YES.
UM, 10 AND 11, UM, WERE QUESTIONS, UM, THAT THEY HAD JUST OVERLOOKED.
AND WHEN WE RECEIVED THAT INFORMATION FROM THE BUILDER, UH, WE DOUBLE CHECK IT TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY HAVE CHECKED EVERYTHING WE REACHED OUT TO THEM.
AND, UM, SO WE DO KNOW THAT NUMBER 10 AND NUMBER 11 ARE BOTH YESES.
AND I WOULD STATE THAT, YOU KNOW, NORMALLY I'M A VERY ACCOMMODATING MAN.
BUT THERE IS A WAY THAT THINGS NEED TO BE DONE AND, AND I WOULD EXPECT, I AGREE THAT IT GETS DONE BETTER.
SO BASICALLY THE FIRST REQUEST IS FOR 20,000 PER HOUSE.
IT'LL MOST LIKELY BE USED FOR LAND ACQUISITION.
UM, BUT INFRASTRUCTURE CONSTRUCTION IS AN ELIGIBLE USE AS WELL.
AND THEN THE, THE 6,000 IS FOR THE, THE PERMIT FEE AND THAT WILL BE SENT DIRECTLY TO THE CITY OF HARTFORD.
IT'S AN OFFSET FROM THE COST THAT THEY WOULD OTHERWISE HAVE.
DO WE HAVE FURTHER DISCUSSION OR QUESTIONS? SUPERVISOR SCHWAB, MR. CHAIRMAN, I'M NOT OPPOSED TO, UH, PASSING THE MOTION AS PRESENTED.
UM, GIVEN THE INFORMATION THAT'S PROVIDED, UM, ON, ON RECORD, WHICH CLARIFIES ITEMS 10 AND 11, I DO HAVE A CONCERN ABOUT THE, THE MOTION AS PRESENTED DOES NOT INCLUDE THE PHRASEOLOGY APPROPRIATE FOR, UH, PENDING FINANCIAL CONSIDERATION OR FINANCIAL REVIEW BY EDWC.
SO AT SOME POINT WE EITHER NEED TO DEFEAT THIS MOTION AND START WITH A DIFFERENT ONE OR AMEND THIS MOTION TO INCLUDE THAT LANGUAGE.
I CONCUR THAT WE SHOULD, YOU KNOW, PUT A QUALIFIER ON THERE THAT YEAH.
AND THAT, AND THAT IS SOMETHING THAT WE, UM, THAT YOUR COMMITTEE HAS DONE, UM, IN THE PAST.
SO IT DOES TAKE A, A BIT TO, UM, PREPARE THOSE ROI IMPACT ANALYSIS.
IS THERE A TIMELINE ON THOSE? HOW SOON DO WE EXPECT THEM? UM, UM, I ANTICIPATE PROBABLY WITHIN THE NEXT WEEK, SO I CAN CERTAINLY COME BACK AT THE DECEMBER MEETING AND PROVIDE THAT INFORMATION TO YOU.
UH, I WOULD AGREE WITH, UM, SUPERVISOR SCHWAB.
UM, THIS, I JUST DON'T LIKE DOING IT THIS WAY.
I, I, I FEEL LIKE WE DON'T HAVE THE RIGHT INFORMATION.
WE'RE NOT, YOU KNOW, YOU, YOU PUT THE HORSE IN FRONT OF THE CART AND YOU KNOW, I DON'T, I DON'T FEEL THAT THAT'S WHAT'S HAPPENED IN THIS CASE.
AND, AND I DON'T LIKE HAVING TO BE UNDER A DEADLINE, UH, BECAUSE THAT, YOU KNOW, FORCES ME TO MAKE A BAD DECISION OR A RECKLESS DECISION.
UH, YOU KNOW, THIS IS JUST NOT THE WAY TO DO THINGS.
NOBODY WANTS TO MAKE A DECISION WITHOUT ALL THE INFORMATION.
NOW, I DON'T NECESSARILY WANT TO STOP THIS, YOU KNOW, I WOULD LIKE TO SEE IT PROCEED FORWARD, BUT I, I THINK WITH EXTREME CAUTION THAT THIS TYPE OF STUFF IS JUST NOT GONNA BE TOLERATED IN THE FUTURE.
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JUST CHECKED BOTH OF THEM ARE EXACTLY THE SAME ON MY ATTACHMENTS FOR BOTH K AND L.REALLY? I JUST, I JUST DOWNLOADED THE ONE FOR THE PERMIT.
WHAT ARE YOU LOOKING AT, DENNIS? ARE YOU LOOKING AT THE ATTACHMENTS FOR K AND L? SO WHERE ARE YOU LOOKING AT THE PACKET? YEAH.
ATTACHMENTS THAT ARE NO, WHERE ARE YOU ON GETTING TO IT? HOW ARE YOU GETTING TO THE PACKET FROM PRIME UP? YOU'RE ONLINE NOW? YEAH.
SO THIS IS, AND I MEAN THIS WOULDN'T BE A DEB ISSUE.
THIS WOULD BE AN US, RIGHT? SO, I MEAN, DON'T, DON'T CDS.
GO BACK TO THE GO BACK TO PRIME.
SO HERE'S WHAT I'M SEEING WHEN I GO TO L HERE'S, THERE'S PER, YEAH, 68 PERMIT FEE INCENTIVE IS THERE.
THE SIX K AND YEAH, ONE K IS A DIFFERENT ONE.
YEAH, I'M SEEING TWO DIFFERENT ONES.
SO I DON'T KNOW WHAT YOU, I'VE GOT IT ON PRIME GOV.
THAT'S WHERE I'M GOING THROUGH.
DO YOU RECESS? WE'LL TAKE A BRIEF RECESS TO GET THIS STRAIGHTENED OUT.
WE'RE APPROVING MONEY TO COME OUT OF THE NEXT GENERATION HOUSING FUND, WHICH WAS ARPA MONEY.
SO THIS DOESN'T GO TO THE FULL BOARD, IT JUST GOES TO US.
SO, UM, ARE WE WILLING TO DO A FRIENDLY AMENDMENT TO ADD THAT SUBJECT TO SATISFYING THE ROI REQUIREMENTS? I'D BE OKAY WITH THAT.
I WOULD CONSULT WITH OUR ATTORNEY JUST TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE OKAY ON THAT.
YEAH, HE SAID THAT AS LONG AS YOU'RE ALL IN AGREEMENT, WE'LL CALL THAT A FRONT THE AMENDMENT GOOD, THEN I WOULD BE AMENABLE TO THAT.
SO WE HAVE TO PASS THE AMENDMENT FIRST.
CAN YOU PLEASE REPEAT FOR US WHAT'S TO INCLUDE? LANGUAGE? YEAH.
THE, THE APPROVAL IS SUBJECT TO THE R-O-I-E-D-W-C-R-O-I FIGURES, UH, BEING POSITIVE, BEING POSITIVE REQUEST.
ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? SO THIS IS ITEM K WE'RE DEALING WITH FIRST.
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L, WE WOULD ADD THE SAME[l. Next Generation Housing Request for Permit Fee Incentive by A&N for Partridge Hollow ]
FRIENDLY AMENDMENT.IS THAT OKAY WITH EVERYONE? YEAH, I WOULD MOVE.
UH, APPROVAL OF ITEM AGENDA ITEM THREE L AS PRESENTED WITH THE ADDITION OF THE PHRASE SUBJECT TO A POSITIVE REPORT FROM EDWC ON THE RO.
I SECOND THAT SECOND BY SUPERVISOR SICE TO GET THE MOTION.
AND SECOND SCHWAB AND SOLTICE.
ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
AND THE NEXT ITEM IS M, NEXT GENERATION HOUSING FUND REQUEST BY CITY OF WEST BEND
[m. Next Generation Housing Fund Request by City of West Bend for Housing Study]
FOR HOUSING SUNNY STUDY.I'LL MAKE THE MOTION SECOND BY SUPERVISOR KEL.
UM, BEFORE WE GET TOO FAR, THEN, WAS THIS ALL APPROVED BY THE NEXT GENERATION HOUSING COMMITTEE ALREADY? CORRECT? YES.
WE HAD OUR MEETING, UM, YESTERDAY.
SHOULD HAVE POINTED THAT OUT EARLIER.
SO DO WE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ON THIS ONE? UM, JUST ONE, SIR.
JUST, UH, THAT, UH, JUST A QUESTION TO MAKE SURE THIS IS CONSISTENT WITH OUR PROGRAM GOALS.
IT IS CONSISTENT WITH OUR PROGRAM GOALS.
THE, THE CITY OF WEST BEND, UM, IS INTERESTED IN DOING THE HOUSING STUDY, UM, TO TAKE A LOOK AT, UM, YOU KNOW, SINGLE FAMILY DUPLEX, TOWN HOMES, CONDOMINIUMS, UM, THAT, YOU KNOW, CAN ALIGN WITH THAT, UH, WORKFORCE HOUSING.
UM, THIS IS A VERY SIMILAR STUDY, UM, THAT THE FUND APPROVED, UM, FOR NOT ONLY THE CITY OF HARTFORD, UH, BUT ALSO THE VILLAGE OF GERMANTOWN.
AND IN THIS INSTANCE IT WOULD BE, UM, SPECIFIC TO THE CITY OF WEST BEND.
AND, AND MR. CHAIRMAN, IN THAT BEING THE CASE, I WOULD DEFINITELY SUPPORT THIS ISSUE.
DID I TAKE A MOTION? I SECOND YOU? YOU YOU DID IT.
ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? IT'S GETTING LIGHT.
BROWNFIELD'S COUNTY ASSESSMENT FUND, REQUEST FOR REGAL WEAR.
[n. Brownfields County Assessment Fund Request by Regal Place LLC]
YEP.MOTION BY SUPERVISOR SCHWAB, SECOND BY SUPERVISOR SHARAN.
SO, UH, BEFORE YOU TODAY, WE HAVE A FUNDING REQUEST FOR REGAL PLACE LLC FOR $18,600.
UH, THIS IS FOR SUPPLEMENTAL SOIL ASSESSMENT WORK, UM, RELATED TO, UM, BASICALLY IT'LL BE FIVE MORE SOIL BORINGS ON THE SITE FOR 10 MORE SAMPLES.
UH, AND THEN ADDITIONAL CONFIRMATION SAMPLING WORK RELATED TO ASPHALT AND JUST CONFIRMATION THAT, UM, ASPHALT ON THE SITE, UM, WHILE THEY'RE, THEY'RE DOING CONSTRUCTION ACTIVITIES, BUT THE, UH, THE TOTAL WAS 1800 OR 18,600.
AND THEN THE MATCH FROM REGAL PLACE WILL BE 3,720.
AND THEN 80%, UH, COMING FROM THE SITE REDEVELOPMENT PROGRAM WILL BE, UH, 14,880.
UM, AND WITH THAT, UM, I CAN TAKE ANY QUE OH, AND THIS WAS APPROVED BY THE SITE REDEVELOPMENT COMMITTEE.
WAS IT LAST WEEK? SUPERVISOR SHARUN.
I JUST HAVE ONE QUICK QUESTION.
IS THERE A REASON WHY THEY NEED ADDITIONAL SOIL SAMPLES? YES.
SO THE WISCONSIN DNR CAME BACK AND REQUESTED ADDITIONAL SOIL SAMPLES RELATED TO PFAS, UH, THAT WAS ON THE SITE.
SO THEY JUST WANT TO CONFIRM, UM, THOSE, THAT DETECTION, UM, AND KIND OF THE, UM, THE DISTRIBUTION, UH, THEY WANNA MAKE SURE IT'S, IT'S A SMALL AREA VERSUS, UM, THE ENTIRE SITE OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
IS THIS THE ONE WHERE THE STANDARD CHANGED IN THE MIDDLE OF THE ROAD HERE? YES.
SO, UH, THE STANDARD CHANGE BY, I THINK IT WAS LIKE 200,000 TIMES THEY INCREASED THE PFAS STANDARD FOR, UM, LIKE THE THRESHOLD THAT THE DNR CONSIDERS.
SO IT WENT FROM BEING A NON-ISSUE TO AN ISSUE, UH, UNDERNEATH OUR FEET.
SO, UM, NOW WE'RE PIVOTING TO ACCOMMODATE THAT, SO, YEP.
AND, AND I GUESS THAT'S WHERE MY
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CONFUSION IS, AND MAYBE YOU CAN CLEAR THOSE UP FOR ME.IT SAYS THE SRC WILL MEET ON NOVEMBER 13TH TO CONSIDER FUNDING SUPPLEMENTAL ASSESSMENT FOR MM-HMM.
AND WE'RE, IT SEEMS LIKE, RIGHT? YEAH, THE INITIAL LANGUAGE WAS, I DRAFTED THE REPORT WHEN IT WAS BEFORE, UM, BEFORE THE SRC MEETING, SO THE LANGUAGE WAS FOR PRIOR TO, SO THE SRC HAS REVIEWED IT AND THEY HAVE, AND, AND JUST BECAUSE WE WERE TRYING TO GET THE, THESE REPORTS TO THE CLERK AHEAD OF TIME, UH, ABOUT TWO WEEKS THAT WE TRY TO SHOOT FOR.
SO, UH, THE LANGUAGE DEFINITELY WAS A LITTLE CONFUSING.
AND, AND THERE AGAIN, YOU KNOW, WE, WE UPDATE THE CLERK.
'CAUSE WHEN YOU, WHEN I GET STUFF LIKE THIS AND IT CONFUSES ME, I CAN'T MAKE A GOOD DECISION.
AND SO, YOU KNOW, PLEASE, LET'S CLEAN UP, UH, HOW WE DO THINGS.
THIS ONE WAS KIND OF TWO SHIPS PASSING IN THE NIGHT.
WHEN THE TIMING, SO YEAH, I TOTALLY, ONCE YOU HAD EXPLAINED IT, I GOT IT, BUT IT WAS ONE OF THOSE THINGS I DON'T KNOW THAT WHEN I'M SITTING THERE READING THE AGENDA AND TRYING TO MAKE A DECISION.
YOU KNOW, ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION, MR. REPORT SAYS IT ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
OUR NEXT MEETING WILL BE DECEMBER 18TH, WEDNESDAY AT 4:00 PM UH, HAPPY THANKSGIVING EVERYONE.