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WAS POSTED AS REQUIRED BY STATE LAW.AND WE'LL STAND FOR, UH, EVERYBODY'S HERE EXCEPT MR. HARTWIG.
I'M SURE HE IS PROBABLY RUNNING LATE.
SO WE'LL STAND FOR SILENT PRAYER AND PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE.
I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE, ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS, ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL.
UH, ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OR ANY COMMENTS ON THE MINUTES FROM LAST MEETING? SEEING NONE, WE WILL APPROVE THOSE AS WRITTEN.
MOVING ON TO THREE A, UH, GRANT, THE PUBLIC HEARING.
SO I'LL ASK THE COUNTY CLERK TO READ A NOTICE OF PUBLIC HEARING.
THIS NOTICE WAS PUB PUBLISHED IN THE DAILY NEWS ON DECEMBER 6TH, NOTICE OF PUBLIC HEARING SPECIALIZED
[a. Minutes of November 21, 2024]
TRANSPORTATION GRANT EIGHT 5.21.[a. 85.21 Grant Public Hearing]
TRANSPORTATION ASSISTANCE GRANT APPLICATION FOR 2025 IS SCHEDULED FOR A PUBLIC HEARING BY THE WASHINGTON COUNTY PUBLIC WORKS COMMITTEE ON THURSDAY, DECEMBER 19TH, 2024 AT 3:00 PM IN ROOM 1 0 1 9 AT THE WASHINGTON COUNTY, HERBERT J TENNEY'S GOVERNMENT CENTER, WEST BEND, WISCONSIN, 5 3 0 9 5 FOR THE PURPOSE OF RECEIVING COMMENT FOR WASHINGTON COUNTY'S PROPOSED APPLICATION FOR APPROXIMATELY $398,321 OF FUNDING AUTHORIZED UNDER SECTION EIGHT 5.2, ONE OF THE WISCONSIN STATUTES TO IMPLEMENT ITS ELDERLY AND DISABLED TRANSPORTATION PROGRAM.SHARED RIDE TAXI SERVICE, INTERFAITH CAREGIVERS FOR A DA BARIATRIC BANDS AT THE HEARING.
WASHINGTON COUNTY PUBLIC WORKS COMMITTEE WILL AFFORD AN OPPORTUNITY FOR INTERESTED PERSONS OR AGENCIES TO BE HEARD WITH RESPECT TO THE SOCIAL, ECONOMIC AND EN ENVIRONMENTAL ASPECTS OF THE PROJECT.
INTERESTED PERSONS MAY SUBMIT ORALLY OR IN WRITING EVIDENCE AND RECOMMENDATIONS WITH RESPECT TO SAID PROJECT.
IS THERE ANYBODY FROM THE PUBLIC WHO WISHES TO SPEAK AT THIS TIME? HI, MY NAME.
I THOUGHT I WAS JUST GONNA ASK YOUR NAME.
I'M THE NEW EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR AT INTERFAITH CAREGIVERS.
I TOOK OVER FOR JANINE BRU VIG BACK IN SEPTEMBER.
SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO TELL YOU A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT OUR ORGANIZATION AND PROGRAM TODAY AND HOW THE 85 21 GRANT MAKES SUCH A DIFFERENCE, UM, FOR OUR MISSION.
SO WE ARE A NONPROFIT IN WASHINGTON COUNTY WHOSE MISSION IS TO CONNECT SENIORS TO CARING VOLUNTEERS WITH A VISION THAT THOSE IN OUR COMMUNITY, 60 AND GREATER, CAN HAVE GREATER ACCESS TO THE RESOURCES NEEDED TO REMAIN INDEPENDENT IN THEIR HOMES.
WE OFFER MANY SERVICES THANKS TO OUR VOL DEDICATED VOLUNTEERS, THE BIGGEST OF WHICH IS OUR SENIOR TRANSPORTATION PROGRAM, WHICH PROVIDES RIDES TO MEDICAL APPOINTMENTS INCLUDING DIALYSIS, CANCER TREATMENT, PHYSICAL THERAPY, UM, PHARMACY TRIPS, SOCIAL SOCIALIZATION.
WE ARE UNIQUE IN THAT WE CROSS COUNTY LINES TO GET PEOPLE TO THEIR APPOINTMENTS.
UM, WE WILL GO WITHIN A 50 MILE RADIUS OF WASHINGTON COUNTY.
UM, THAT MEANS OUR, EXCUSE ME.
OUR VOLUNTEERS ARE MAKING FREQUENT TRIPS TO OUT OF COUNTY LOCATIONS, UM, LIKE MENOMINEE FALLS AND GRAFTON, AND FARTHER AWAY TO THE VA ER'S MAIN CAMPUS IN MILWAUKEE.
FOND DULAC, SHEBOYGAN, BEAVER DAM, ANYWHERE WITHIN 50 MILES.
WE CURRENTLY HAVE ABOUT 145 ACTIVE VOLUNTEER DRIVERS.
UM, MOST OF THOSE INDIVIDUALS PROVIDE SERVICES IN THEIR PERSONAL VEHICLES, AND ABOUT 35 OF THOSE DRIVERS USE ONE OF THE VANS IN OUR FLEET, UM, WHICH ARE ALL WHEELCHAIR, UM, ACCESSIBLE.
WE HAVE, UM, 13 VANS IN OUR FLEET.
UH, ONE IS STATIONED DOWN IN GERMANTOWN, ONE IN HARTFORD.
UH, COME MONDAY WE'LL HAVE ONE IN JACKSON AND THE REMAINDER ARE HERE.
UM, IN NEAR OUR OFFICE IN WEST BEND, WE PROVIDE UPWARDS OF 200 TRIPS EVERY WEEK.
UH, FROM DECEMBER 1ST, 2023 THROUGH TODAY.
UH, WE WERE JUST SHY OF 11,000 RIDES AND OVER 2200 OF
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THOSE RIDES WENT OUT OF COUNTY.UM, WHICH IS REALLY A, A SPECIAL THING ABOUT OUR PROGRAM.
UH, OUR VOLUNTEERS IN THAT YEAR DROVE MORE THAN 238,000 MILES AND PROVIDED OVER 12,300 VOLUNTEER HOURS, UM, TO MAKE THAT HAPPEN.
UH, IT COSTS IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD OF AROUND 250 TO $300 TO A RANGE OUT OF COUNTY TRANSPORTATION, UH, WITH A PRIVATE SERVICE.
UM, SO WE'VE ESTIMATED THAT WE'VE SAVED OUR CLIENTS NEARLY $700,000 THROUGH THE SERVICES THAT WE PROVIDED IN THE LAST YEAR.
UM, 2025 IS OUR ORGANIZATION'S 20TH ANNIVERSARY AND THE NEED FOR RIDES AND THE NEED FOR THAT TRANSPORTATION, ESPECIALLY THAT OUT OF COUNTY TRANSPORTATION CONTINUES TO GROW.
THE $9,000 WE RECEIVE AS PART OF THE 85 21 GRANT, UH, IS INSTRUMENTAL IN HELPING US CONTINUE THIS MUCH NEEDED SERVICE, UH, FOR THOSE 60 PLUS HERE LIVING IN WASHINGTON COUNTY.
AND WE THANK YOU FOR ALL THE SUPPORT YOU'VE PROVIDED AND HOPE IT CAN CONTINUE.
IS THERE ANYBODY ELSE WHO WISHES TO SPEAK? I AND LAST CALL? IS THERE ANYBODY ELSE WHO WI WISHES TO SPEAK? SEEING NONE, I'LL CLOSE THIS PUBLIC HEARING AND WE'LL NEED A MOTION A SECOND TO BRING THIS TO THE TABLE.
I'LL SECOND MAKE A MOTION FROM, UH, SUPERVISOR M**K.
ANYBODY HAVE ANY DISCUSSIONS ON THIS TOPIC? SCOTT, DID YOU WANNA SPEAK ON IT AT ALL OR NO? KIND OF IS WHAT IT IS, RIGHT? UH, JUST WANTED TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU MAY HAVE.
UH, THE DETAILS OF, UH, WHERE THE FUND IS GOING IS, IS IN WITHIN THE REPORT.
BUT YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, CERTAINLY MYSELF OR OR CHARLIE, THE TRANSIT MANAGER, TO BE ABLE TO PROVIDE ANY ANSWERS FOR YOU.
SO NOBODY HAS ANY QUESTIONS YET.
SEEING NONE, WE'LL TAKE A VOTE.
MOVING ON TO ITEM B, IT QUARTERLY REPORT.
IT SEEMS LIKE I WAS HERE NOT TOO LONG AGO.
[b. IT Quarterly Report]
WE'LL LEAVE IT TO THAT ONE.UM, A LOT'S ACCOMPLISHED IN THE LAST THREE MONTHS SINCE I'VE BEEN HERE.
UH, THE FIRST THING ON THE AGENDA HERE IS THE, THE KIND OF THE OSH OCEAN INITIATIVES.
THE, THE FIRST ONE HERE, THE REDESIGN ACCESS DATABASE APPLICATIONS.
UM, I CAN SAY WE HAVE TWO PERMITS LEFT TO DO, UM, ONE'S OUR SHORELAND WETLAND PERMIT AND THEN THE COUNTY HIGHWAY ACCESS AND UTILITY PERMIT, UH, WITH SCOTT.
BUT WE'RE GETTING VERY CLOSE THERE.
I DID MOVE THE DATE BACK TO A MORE REALISTIC DATE, BUT WE'RE REALLY, REALLY CLOSE.
UM, THE ONE OTHER DATABASE THAT WAS CURRENTLY ON A OLD MICROSOFT ACCESS DATABASE FROM MANY YEARS AGO, UM, WE HAVE ONE DATABASE LEFT TO MOVE AND THEN WE'RE DONE WITH THAT PROJECT.
I THINK THAT ONE WE HAVE SCHEDULED TO, UH, BEFORE THE END OF JANUARY, AND I THINK WE'RE GONNA MEET THAT, THAT TARGET.
SO MOVING RIGHT ALONG WITH THAT, UH, WE CONTINUE TO MAKE STRIDES TOWARDS OFFICE 365.
MORE AND MORE DEPARTMENTS ARE ASKING ABOUT MOVING FILES TO SHAREPOINT SO THEY CAN COLLABORATE WITH, UH, OTHER AGENCIES AND, AND VENDORS AND, UM, THE STATE OF WISCONSIN.
SO WE'RE MAKING MORE STRIDES TOWARDS THAT.
UM, RECENTLY THE HUMAN SERVICES, UH, HSD BROUGHT ON, UM, SOME PROVIDER DOCUMENTS THAT WE SHARE OUT USING SHAREPOINT NOW, WHICH WE WERE ABLE TO SAVE THE COUNTY MONEY FROM A PREVIOUS SERVICE THAT WE WERE PAYING FOR.
SO I'M PROUD TO SAY WE'RE, WE'RE KEEP MOVING FORWARD WITH THAT.
THE ONE RED ITEM THAT I HAVE ON HERE IN ENHANCEMENTS TO IT INFRASTRUCTURE, UM, WAS, UH, SWITCH REPLACING SWITCHES AT THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE.
WE DID RUN INTO AN ISSUE, UM, AS OF LATE LAST WEEK.
WE HAVE A WORKAROUND FOR THAT ISSUE NOW WITH THESE NEW SWITCHES.
IT IS JUST A DIFFERENT OPERATION AND WE, WE FIGURE THAT OUT AND HOW TO ADD THEM TO THE, THE ENVIRONMENT.
SO SEVEN MORE CLOSETS AND WE'RE DONE WITH THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE.
SO I'M HAPPY TO SAY THAT'S MOVING FORWARD.
UM, IT IS BEHIND, BUT I THINK, UH, WE SHOULD BE ABLE TO GET IT IN, GET IT FINISHED IN Q1 OF 2025.
I I HATE TO ASK HOW MANY SWITCHES ARE IN THERE.
MOST OF 'EM ARE, ARE ONE SWITCH IN THE CLOSET, SO.
UM, THE HARDEST PART WITH THAT IS JUST FINDING TIME BECAUSE WE DO HAVE TO TAKE PARTS OF THE SHERIFF'S BUILDING OFFLINE SURE.
UM, SO THAT'S JUST THE BIGGEST
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HURDLE RIGHT THERE, IS JUST MAKING TIME.YOU SAID TAKE PARTS OF THE SHERIFF'S OFFLINE.
SO DOES THERE, OBVIOUSLY THAT'S COORDINATING THAT THERE'S NO SAFETY RISKS OR ANYTHING WITH TAKING PARTS OF THEM OFFLINE.
WE COORDINATE WITH, YOU KNOW, FOR EXAMPLE, WE, THE, THE ONE WE DID LAST WEEK WAS IN THE JAIL.
SO WE WORKED WITH, UM, ONE OF THE, THE CAPTAINS AND SERGEANTS IN THE JAIL.
WE SCHEDULE IT WITH, WITH THEIR PERMISSION.
UM, AND WE ASKED WHAT'S BEST FOR THEM AND THEY STILL HAVE RADIO ACCESS SO THEY CAN STILL HAVE MEANS OF COMMUNICATION.
AND THESE SWITCHOVERS ARE LITERALLY ABOUT 10 MINUTES.
GOOD QUE GOOD QUESTION THOUGH.
I KNOW A LOT OF 'EM WILL HAVE TO BE DONE AT LIKE 4:00 AM IN THE MORNING WHERE IT'S LEAST DISRUPTIVE.
SO WE WILL JUST WORK THAT OUT WITH THE SHERIFF AND WHATEVER CAPTAIN IS IN THAT AREA OF THE, THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE THAT WE'RE GONNA WORK WITH.
SO, SO THAT'S MOVING RIGHT ALONG.
AND THEN NEXT YEAR WE WILL START AT THE PUBLIC AGENCY CENTER TO GET RID OF SOME OF THOSE SWITCHES THAT ARE END OF SUPPORT NOW AND END OF SERVICE THAT'LL START, UH, NEXT YEAR AS WELL.
HEY, JOEL, CAN I ASK YOU A QUESTION? ABSOLUTELY.
SO WITH REGARD TO THE CHILD SUPPORT DOCUMENT SCANNING PROJECT MM-HMM
YOU KNOW, THAT YOU HAVE ON HERE.
SO IS THAT, ARE THOSE ARCHIVED DOCUMENTS THAT, SO THE AGENCY, THEY DON'T ACTUALLY USE PAPER.
I THINK THEY ARE PAPER RIGHT NOW.
UM, THEY'RE PAID, SO THIS ISN'T ARCHIVE STUFF, IT'S STUFF THEY CREATE RIGHT NOW.
IT'S, I I BELIEVE THERE'S BOTH STUFF THEY CREATE NOW AND ARCHIVE STUFF.
UM, A LOT OF, AND I'D HAVE TO TALK TO, UM, OUR COUNTY ATTORNEY TO GET MORE INFORMATION ON THAT.
UM, I KNOW IT'S A COSTLY PROJECT, SO I THINK THAT'S KIND OF WHY IT'S BEEN PUT TO THE SIDE.
UM, BUT THAT'S ONE THING I WANT TO MAYBE LOOK AT FOR MOVING THAT TO 26.
SO WE GET ADEQUATE FUNDING FOR THAT.
AND THAT WOULD BE WORKING WITH, WITH BRAD AND THAT MIGHT HAVE TO BE HIRING AN OUTSIDE FIRM TO COME IN, LITERALLY SCAN DOCUMENTS.
SO YEAH, IT, IT WAS ONE PROJECT I INHERITED.
I DON'T KNOW TOO MANY DETAILS ON IT.
IT, IT'S, I THINK IT'S PAPER MANAGING PAPER, REALLY.
IT JUST SEEMS, IT SEEMS GOOFY IN A DIGITAL AGE.
YOU THINK YOU'D HAVE YOUR OWN DATABASE FOR THAT AND THEIR OWN SOFTWARE PROGRAM AND THEIR OWN RIGHT.
YEAH, I THINK A LOT OF THE OLD ARCHIVE STUFF IN, THERE'S NO STATE SOFTWARE.
THERE'S NO UNIFORM REPORTING SOFTWARE FOR CHILD IN THE CHILD SUPPORT AGENCY.
THE STATE HAS THEIRS AND I DON'T, I'M NOT, LIKE I SAY, I'M NOT TOO SURE ON ALL, NOT ALL, ALL THE DETAILS THERE, BUT THERE'S DEFINITELY SOMETHING I'M GONNA LOOK INTO AND, AND, YOU KNOW, SEE WHAT COST IT IS AND WHAT WE HAVE TO, TO DO TO MOVE THAT.
I KNOW A LOT OF SYSTEMS ARE AUTOMATED, OR NOT AUTOMATED, BUT DIGITIZED ALREADY.
SO WE HAVE APPS FOR VARIOUS, LIKE THE CONTRACTS THAT WE HAVE IN THE COUNTY.
SO, YEAH, I'M SURE IT WOULD BE SOMETHING SIMILAR TO THIS.
THIS IS JUST GETTING THE MANPOWER TO SCAN IN MAYBE ALL ARCHIVES AND, AND SOME OF THE PROCESS THAT THEY'RE DOING TO UPDATE IT OR UPGRADE IT AT SOME POINT WHERE YOU'RE NOT RIGHT.
WHERE WE'RE NOT SCANNING THINGS AND WE'RE NOT, UH, THAT'S WHERE I WANT TO GET
SO, BUT NO, GOOD QUESTION AND I WISH I KNEW MORE.
I WISH I COULD PROVIDE YOU A BETTER ANSWER ON THAT ONE.
THAT WAS JUST SOMETHING I INHERITED FROM UH, NO, I UNDERSTAND, BARBARA.
UM, PART OF THE ENHANCEMENTS TO CYBERSECURITY, I AM GONNA MOVE BACK THE, THE DATES ON THE BUILD OUT, OUR CYBERSECURITY VULNERABILITY MANAGEMENT SOFTWARE.
UM, NOW THAT WE HAVE OUR SECURITY OFFICER, UM, HIRED, WE CAN START TO LOOK AT THAT PROCESS, YOU KNOW, AS WE GET HIM MM-HMM
UM, INTERTWINED INTO THE WASHINGTON COUNTY WAYS,
UM, AND AS OF YESTERDAY, I WOULD SAY WE HAVE COMPLETELY ONBOARDED THE TOWN OF WEST BEND INTO OUR IT SHARED SERVICES.
WE HAVE KIND OF ALL THE INITIAL CHECKLIST THINGS THAT WE WANTED TO, TO IMPLEMENT.
SO FIREWALLS, ACCESS POINTS, ANTIVIRUS, SOFTWARE BACKUPS, ALL THAT'S IN PLACE NOW.
SO WE'RE TURNING THEM OVER TO A SUPPORT MODEL WHERE THEY'LL CALL US WHEN THEY NEED SUPPORT.
SO I'M EXCITED TO MO MOVE ON, UH, WITH THAT.
AND ON JANUARY 8TH, I WILL START OUR KICKOFF MEETING WITH THE TOWN OF AARON, WHICH WAS PREVIOUSLY AP APPROVED BY THE COUNTY BOARD FOR IT SHARED SERVICES.
UH, I DID ALSO MEET WITH THE TOWN OF HARTFORD, SORRY, UH, YESTERDAY AS WELL.
AND PRESENTED, YOU KNOW, THE PLAN THAT, YOU KNOW, WE HAD, THAT WE PRETTY MUCH DO WITH EVERY MUNICIPALITY, UM, WHERE, HEY, WE WANT TO, YOU KNOW, BRING IN THESE SECURITY ITEMS, THESE TOOLS.
AND, UH, IT, IT WAS VERY FAVORABLE.
THEY ASKED THAT IF WE COULD MAYBE SPEAK TO THEIR, THEIR BOARD ON THEIR JANUARY MEETING,
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BECAUSE IF THEY HAD ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT THE, THE SERVICE.SO THEY'RE VERY INTERESTED AND THEY, IT LOOKS LIKE THEY WANNA GO FORWARD WITH THE SERVICES WITH US AS WELL.
SO IF, IF THEY APPROVE, WHAT I WILL DO IS BRING IT BACK TO THIS COMMITTEE FOR APPROVAL AND WE'LL, WE'LL, WE'LL SEE WHERE WE'RE AT, UH, WHEN WE GET THERE.
BUT IT'S VERY FAVORABLE AND IT LOOKS LIKE MORE AND MORE OF THESE SMALLER TOWNS AND VILLAGES ARE STARTING TO CALL ME INSTEAD OF ME TRYING TO REACH OUT TO THEM, WHICH IS VERY GOOD.
YEAH, I WAS JUST GONNA ASK THAT.
'CAUSE UH, IS THIS ALL OF THE ONES WE'VE DONE SERVICE WITH SO FAR, OR HAVE YOU TAKEN SOME OF THE ONES THAT WE'VE COMPLETED OFF OF HERE? OR IS THIS ALL OF THEM? UH, THIS IS ALL OF THEM SO FAR.
SO WE GOT SIX OF WHAT, 20 MUNICIPALITIES.
I'M ASSUMING MAYBE A CITY OF WEST BEND WON'T DO IT, AND MAYBE CITY OF HARTFORD MAY NOT, BUT IT SEEMS LIKE THE TOWNSHIPS ARE GRABBING ON YOU.
I I KNOW THERE IS INTEREST, UM, YOU KNOW, FROM, UH, LIKE THE VILLAGE OF GERMANTOWN, WE SPOKE WITH THEM.
UM, BUT, YOU KNOW, THAT'S A, A BIGGER STRATEGY FOR THEM.
UM, AND THEN YEAH, NOW THE TOWN OF HARTFORD.
IT SEEMS LIKE THE, THE TOWNS AND VILLAGES WHO HAVE VERY SMALL STAFF ARE AND SMALL VILLAGES ARE VERY, VERY INTERESTED.
SO, UH, ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS ON THE QUARTERLY ELS REPORTS? ANY QUESTIONS? I DON'T THINK SO.
TO MOVE ON TO THE NEXT ITEM,
UM, SO I JUST WANT TO KIND OF GIVE YOU A END OF YEAR REPORT ON OUR IT SHARED SERVICES.
UM, SO WE HAVE THOSE CORE FIVE, UM, MUNICIPALITIES THAT I MENTIONED, BUT WE ALSO DO PROVIDE
[c. IT Shared Services Report for 2024]
IT SUPPORT FOR SOME POLICE DEPARTMENTS THAT ARE NOT SHARED SERVICES CUSTOMERS.FOR EXAMPLE, UM, AS YOU GUYS KNOW, WE'RE DOING SOME DISPATCHING FOR THE VILLAGE OF GERMANTOWN.
SO WHEN WE WORK WITH THEM, THEY USE OUR APPLICATIONS, OUR, OUR CAD SOFTWARE FOR THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE.
SO WE HELP KIND OF SUPPORT AND GET THEM UP AND RUNNING IN THAT ASPECT.
SO THAT'S WHY ON THIS REPORT, YOU'LL SEE SOME MORE HOURS FOR LIKE, UM, THE VILLAGE OF GERMANTOWN.
THEY'RE NOT A SHARED CUSTOMER.
BUT WE PUT IN A LOT OF EFFORT, ESPECIALLY WITH THE, THE, UH, DISPATCH DISPATCHING SERVICES THAT WE'RE KIND OF TAKING OVER.
UM, ALL IN ALL, FROM JANUARY 1ST TO NOVEMBER 30TH, WE HAVE ABOUT 648 HOURS, ALMOST 649 HOURS OF COUNTY IT TIME TOUCHING OTHER MUNICIPALITY SYSTEMS AND WORKING WITH THEM, SUPPORTING THEM, UM, EQUATES TO ABOUT 31% OF OUR WORK WEEK IS ACTUALLY DEDICATED TO OTHER MUNICIPALITIES, WHICH IS, THIS IS GREAT.
I THINK IT'S A GREAT OFF OFFERING.
UM, AND RIGHT NOW WE'RE MANAGING, YOU KNOW, IT'S NOT A, IT'S NOT AN EXTRA BURDEN FOR US, UM, BUT I THINK IT'S ADDED VALUE FOR THE COUNTY AND FOR THE TAXPAYERS.
UM, AND AS I MENTIONED BEFORE, UH, TOWN OF HARTFORD, WE HAD A GOOD DISCUSSION WITH THEM.
UM, WE'RE IN DISCUSSION WITH THE VILLAGE OF GERMANTOWN, SEEING HOW WE CAN MAKE THAT WORK.
AND THEN TOWN OF FARMINGTON ALSO KIND OF PUT A FEELER OUT THERE AS WELL.
UM, ALL IN ALL, I AM HAPPY TO REPORT THAT, YOU KNOW, IT SHARED SERVICES I THINK ARE WORKING REALLY WELL, SO.
ANY QUESTIONS ON IT? SHARED SERVICES, I GUESS WE'RE GOOD.
UM, SO TONIGHT I GET A, A PARTNER IN CRIME WITH ME.
SO I'D ACTUALLY LIKE TO INTRODUCE, UH, UH, ERIC, UH, MESA.
UH, HE'S OUR IT INFRASTRUCTURE MANAGER AND, UH, INFORMATION SECURITY OFFICER.
SO ERIC, UH, JOINS US FROM MILWAUKEE COUNTY'S, UH, NOT TIMMERMAN MITCHELL AIRPORT.
UH, HE WORKED THERE THE LAST YEAR AND A HALF.
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I'LL LET HIM QUICK, SAY A QUICK HI AND INTRODUCE HIMSELF.I JUST WANNA INTRODUCE MYSELF.
I'M ERIC MESSA, AS JOEL SAID, ABOUT A YEAR AND A HALF AT, UH, MITCHELL AIRPORT.
SO, UM, TOUCHING ON SOME SECURITY ASPECTS.
UH, I WAS INVOLVED WITH SOME OF THE INITIATIVES FOR, UH, KIND OF SIMILAR TO LIKE CI, WE HAD TSA MANDATES THAT WE HAD TO IMPLEMENT.
IT'S JUST TRANSITIONING TO A NEW ENVIRONMENT AND LEARNING HOW THINGS OPERATE HERE.
SO EVERYTHING'S BEEN GREAT SO FAR.
SO, UM, JUST WANTED TO INTRODUCE MYSELF AND, UH, THANK YOU.
WHEN YOU STARTED TALKING IT, JUST SO YOU KNOW, YOU WENT RIGHT OVER MY HEAD, SO I, BUT HELLO.
YEAH, WE'RE, WE ARE EXCITED TO, UM, TO HAVE ERIC ON THE TEAM, AND I WANNA THANK YOU GUYS FOR, FOR MAKING THAT POSSIBLE.
UH, I THINK IT MAKES A BIG IMPACT TO WHAT WE CAN PROVIDE THE COUNTY AS WELL, THESE, UH, AS WELL AS THESE, UH, MIN SMALLER MUNICIPALITIES WHEN WE DO THEIR IT SHARED SERVICES.
'CAUSE PART OF THAT WILL BE SECURITY THAT WE CAN OFFER
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THE MUNICIPALITY.THANK YOU FOR, FOR ALLOWING THAT TO HAPPEN.
UH, JUST A COUPLE QUICK UPDATES.
UH, WE DID HAVE A STATE OF WISCONSIN CGIS AUDIT, WHICH YOU MAY HAVE HEARD ABOUT.
AND NOW WE'RE STARTING TO, NOW THAT WE HAVE OUR KIND OF OUR ACTION PLAN TO MAKE SOME OF THESE NEW CHANGES PER THE NEW POLICY, UM, WE'RE GONNA START IMPLEMENTING THINGS LIKE A 30 MINUTE LOCKOUT SCREEN.
SO IF SOMEONE STEPS AWAY FROM THEIR, THEIR COMPUTER FOR 30 MINUTES, IT'S AUTOMATICALLY GONNA LOCK, WHICH IS A GOOD SECURITY PRACTICE.
UM, SHE JUST REQUIRES A, ON ANY SYSTEM IN THE COUNTY THAT HAS A LOGIN BANNER THAT SAYS, HEY, WE, WE ARE MONITORING.
SO THAT'S WHAT THAT, THAT LOGIN BANNER'S ABOUT, UM, A PASSWORD POLICY, UM, REQUIRING 12, 12 CHARACTERS, UH, CHANGE EVERY 90 DAYS.
THESE ARE JUST SOME, SOME STANDARD SECURITY PRACTICES THAT WE'RE GONNA PUT IN PLACE THAT MEET THE CD REQUIREMENTS.
ALSO, NIST STANDARDS, SO NATIONAL INSTITUTE OF SECURITY TECHNOLOGY.
UM, WE'RE MEETING THOSE RECOMMENDATIONS AS WELL, WHICH IS REALLY, REALLY EXCITING.
UM, QUICK QUESTION, WHILE YOU'RE ON THE 30 MINUTE KNOCKOUT, HOW HAS THAT 30 MINUTE, UM, COME ABOUT? BECAUSE I KNOW WHERE I WORK, WE'VE GOT 15 MINUTES.
15 MINUTES, IT LOCKS OUT AND WE HAVE TO PUT OUR PASSWORD BACK IN.
BUT I'M JUST CURIOUS, HOW IS THAT 30 MINUTES? IS THAT, IS THAT ENOUGH TIME? SO WE, WE LOOKED AT WHAT'S, UH, LEAST INTRUS INTRUSIVE FOR THE SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT.
THE CGI POLICY REQUIRES 30 MINUTES.
UM, SO 30 MINUTES IS, IS WHAT MEETS THE REQUIREMENTS FOR CIS AND THAT'S LESS INTRUSIVE FOR THE SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENTS WHEN IT COMES TO, UH, PUBLIC SAFETY.
SO USUALLY 15, 30 MINUTES IS ABOUT THE NORMAL MM-HMM
CIS UH, CRIMINAL JUSTICE INFORMATION SYSTEMS OR SERVICES.
UM, YEAH, SOMETIMES THESE ACRONYMS. I KNOW, I KNOW.
I I GOTTA GET USED TO SLOWING THAT DOWN.
UM, BUT YES, CRIMINAL JUSTICE INFORMATION SYSTEMS. OKAY.
SO IT'S A FEDERAL POLICY THAT THE FBI PUTS OUT AND THAT SAYS, HEY, IF YOU'RE IN LAW ENFORCEMENT, YOU HAVE TO ABIDE BY THESE RULES, OR YOU CAN'T PRACTICE LAW.
UM, SO IT'S, THAT'S WHAT THE CI POLICY IS.
UM, MR. CHAIR, IF I, IF I MAY, SURE.
UM, IT, IT'S ALSO NOTE THAT, UH, JOEL HAS BEEN WORKING VERY CLOSELY WITH THE SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENTS.
IT, IT'S REPRESENTATIVES ON THIS.
THE, THE BOOK USED TO BE ABOUT THAT THICK.
NOW THE BOOK IS THAT THICK OF STUFF THAT THEY HAVE TO DO.
UH, SO THIS IS NOT JUST AN IT THING, IT'S A SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT THING AS WELL.
THEY'VE BEEN INSTRUMENTAL IN HELPING US AND, AND MAKING US AS LOW IMPACT AS POSSIBLE.
AND YOU MIGHT SEE SOME, UH, OTHER STUFF COME BEFORE THE BOARD FOR FUNDING AND STUFF LIKE THAT, JUST BECAUSE OF THOSE, THOSE
SO PUBLIC SAFETY, I BELIEVE, SAW THAT EARLIER THIS WEEK.
AND SO, UH, YOU'LL MIGHT BE SEEING THAT AT THE BOARD LEVEL AS WELL.
SO THERE'S A FINANCIAL COMPONENT, THIS TOO, ON, ON THE OTHER END, BESIDES THE STUFF WE'RE DOING INTERNALLY.
BUT YOU CAN IMAGINE A SHERIFF STEP IN A FIELD HAS A COMPUTER IN THEIR SQUAD CAR, AND NOW THEY WALK AWAY FOR 30 MINUTES.
NOW THEY COME BACK IN AND NOW THEY GOTTA RE GO IN.
SO, UM, DON'T GET ME WRONG, IT'S, IT'S GONNA BE AN INCONVENIENCE FOR THEM, BUT ONE THAT IS REQUIRED.
SO WE ARE TRYING TO MINIMIZE THE IMPACT AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE.
SO YOU CAN IMAGINE SHERIFF'S DEPUTY HERE, 15 MINUTES, THAT'S A VERY SHORT PERIOD OF TIME TO BE GONE.
UM, AND SO THAT'S, WE'RE TRYING TO EXTEND OUT AS FAR AS POSSIBLE.
YOU KNOW, IT MAY LOOK DIFFERENT.
IT IS PROBABLY 'CAUSE OF THE WHITE HAIR THAT THE SIEGE POLICY HAS ADDED TO THE STRESS IN MY LIFE.
BUT YEAH, LIKE, LIKE SCOTT SAID, IT REALLY HAS GONE FROM A, A POLICY ABOUT THIS THICK AND PAPER TO ABOUT LIKE THAT THEY, AND IT'S ONLY GONNA GET WORSE AS YOU HEAR ABOUT MORE OF THESE CYBERSECURITY THREATS.
AND AS A COUNTY BOARD SUPERVISOR, WE OFTEN ALSO LOOK AT HOW MUCH IS IT COSTING US EVERY TIME THE FEDERAL OR STATE GOVERNMENT, UH, ASKS US TO DO SOMETHING.
UM, AND AGAIN, IS THIS A COMPLIANT, IS THIS A FEDERAL MANDATE OR IS IT STATE? THIS IS FEDERAL.
AND, AND THERE IS, THERE'S TWO AUDITS THAT HAPPEN.
SO THE, THE STATE DEPARTMENT OF ADJUSTMENTS JUSTICE GETS INVOLVED MM-HMM
AND THEN THE, UM, THE FBI CAN GET INVOLVED, UM, IN THE PUBLIC SAFETY COMMITTEE THAT HAD MENTIONED THAT WE MAY HAVE A POSSIBLE AUDIT FROM THE FEDS COMING UP IN 2025.
WE DON'T KNOW, BUT WE WERE ABOUT DUE.
SO THAT'S ONE THING WE'RE WE WANNA MAKE SURE WE'RE WE'RE OH, SO THEY DON'T GIVE YOU A HEADS UP, THEY JUST SHOW UP KIND OF THING.
UH, THEY GIVE YOU A VERY MINIMAL HEADS UP
THEY DO TELL YOU, HEY, THE STATE AND MAYBE SOUTHEASTERN WISCONSIN, BUT THEY DON'T TELL YOU WHICH MUNICIPALITIES SURE.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? IS THAT IT THEN? UH, IT LOOKS LIKE WE WENT THROUGH THREE THINGS, RIGHT?
JUST ONE MORE THING ON SECURITY.
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OH, GOTCHA.SO, RESULTS FROM OUR, UH, OCTOBER CYBERSECURITY AWARENESS TRAINING.
SO EVERY OCTOBER WE DO CYBERSECURITY AWARENESS TRAINING.
UM, IT WAS SENT OUT TO 622 INDIVIDUALS, AND I AM ACTUALLY SAD TO SAY, UM, ONLY 52% COMPLETED THAT.
UM, THIS IS ONE THING I MAY BRING FORWARD IN THE FUTURE, THAT WE MAKE THIS A MANDATORY TRAINING.
WHAT I WANNA DO IS I WANNA LOOK AT WHO'S COMPLETING THE TRAININGS AND THEN WHO'S FAILING PHISHING ATTEMPTS.
AND WE'LL SAY, HEY, YOU KNOW, THIS COULD BE A RESULT OF THESE PEOPLE ARE FAILING PHISHING ATTEMPTS, CLICKING ON BOGUS EMAILS.
AND I SEE THEY HAVE NOT COMPLETED THE TRAINING.
SO WE MAY, WE'RE GONNA GET SOME STA STATISTICS ON THAT, AND WE'RE GONNA LOOK INTO THAT.
BUT I THINK THAT MIGHT BE SOMETHING I, I BRING FORWARD TO THE FUTURE.
IT'S THE SECURITY TRAIN'S ABOUT 40 MINUTES A MONTH.
THERE'S, YOU KNOW, NINE LITTLE VIDEOS THAT THEY CAN PLAY AT THEIR OWN LEISURE.
UM, SO I DON'T THINK IT'S ASKING A LOT OF BURDEN ON PEOPLE'S TIME, BUT I THINK IT IS VERY CRITICAL, ESPECIALLY IN THE, THE TECHNOLOGY AGE THAT WE ARE, IS THAT 622 GO.
SO THAT'S, UH, ALL EMPLOYEES OF WASHINGTON COUNTY.
AND I, I DON'T, I DON'T, I THINK WE EXEMPT THE BOARD FROM THAT.
UM, BUT IT, IT'S ALL THE, THE KNOWLEDGE WORKERS, THE SHERIFFS, ALL THE DEPARTMENTS.
SOME DAYS, I'M WONDERING IF YOU SHOULD NOT INCLUDE US,
I MEAN, WE GET 'EM TOO MM-HMM
AND A LOT OF TIMES I RECOGNIZE 'EM BECAUSE I BELIEVE YOU HAD A LITTLE TALK ABOUT THIS BEFORE ABOUT, YOU KNOW, BEING AWARE OF WHO'S SENDING IT OH, ABSOLUTELY.
AND I THINK HAVING ANOTHER REMINDER MM-HMM.
MAYBE ONCE A YEAR WOULD MAYBE BEHOOVE US, RIGHT?
JUST TO KEEP ANY, UH, PROBLEMS DOWN.
AND THEN THE, THE LAST THING I KNOW WHEN WE, WE TALKED A COUPLE MONTHS AGO, WE TALKED ABOUT OUR SECURITY AUDIT MM-HMM
AND, UM, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT KILLED US WAS THE VULNERABILITY AND SECURITY PATCHES INSTALLED ON COMPUTERS.
UM, WE DID PURCHASE A NEW SOFTWARE THAT KIND OF MANAGED THAT.
AND I WILL SAY IN THE MATTER OF A WEEK, WE ARE 88% COMPLIANT AND UPDATED IN A MATTER OF A WEEK.
UM, THE SOFTWARE'S WORKING, AND A LOT OF THOSE, UH, COMPUTERS THAT ARE NOT COMPLIANT, ARE NOT UPDATED.
THEY JUST HAVEN'T BEEN TURNED ON IN A WHILE.
SO AS SOON AS IT TURNS ON, WE'LL CATCH 'EM AND WE, WE'LL GET 'EM UPDATED.
SO I'M HAPPY TO REPORT THAT, UH, THINGS ARE WORKING.
I'M HAPPY TO REPORT MINE'S UPDATED AND IT ASKS ME DAMN NEAR EVERY TIME I TURN IT ON.
AND WITH THAT, WE WENT THROUGH BCD
DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OR DID YOU WANNA MAKE SOME COMMENTS BEFORE WE, UH, LOOK AT THE NUMBERS HERE? UH, YOU'LL NOTICE THAT, UH, RIDERSHIP DID GO DOWN, UH, THIS MONTH, UH, DID GO DOWN FOR AGENCY TRIPS.
UH, THAT'S BECAUSE WITH THE HOLIDAY WEEK OF THANKSGIVING, UH, SOME FACILITIES WERE CLOSED, UH, THAT THE AGENCY RIDERS NORMALLY, NORMALLY WOULD GO TO.
YEAH, I NOTICED, UH, IT, IT'S BEEN PRETTY CONSISTENT WITH BEING DOWN SINCE 2020, WHICH IS, I BELIEVE WHY WE'RE GONNA HAVE SOME MORE CONVERSATIONS REGARDING THIS.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS ON THE NUMBERS
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FROM THE COMMITTEE? OH, I ALSO, UH, ONE MORE NOTE IS, UH, ON THE SECOND PAGE, UH, WITH THE CHART, THE AVERAGE TRIPS BY HOUR AND DAY OF WEEK, UH, I INCLUDED, UH, BARS ON THAT CHART FOR THE NUMBER OF DRIVERS COMPARED TO THE NUMBER OF TRIPS PER DAY.I DON'T KNOW IF WE'VE ASKED BEFORE, BUT, UM, I THINK SOMEBODY DID ASK BEFORE, IS THERE ANY WAY OF KNOWING WHAT THE TRIPS ARE FOR AT THE 6, 7, 8, 9:00 PM TIMEFRAME WHERE YOU ONLY, WHERE DROPS WAY DOWN? I MEAN, OBVIOUSLY, YOU KNOW, WHEN THE DOCTOR'S OFFICES ARE OPEN AND STUFF LIKE THAT AND WORK.
UM, BUT I'M JUST CURIOUS AS TO WHY.
I MEAN, WE ALREADY TALKED ABOUT THE NINE O'CLOCK AND BEYOND, BUT, UM, WHERE WE ONLY HAVE LIKE THREE RIDERS A DAY, DO WE HAVE ANY IDEA OF WHAT ARE THOSE RIDERS DOING? ARE THEY GOING TO WORK? ARE THEY GOING TO A, UM, A CHURCH FUNCTION, OR DO WE HAVE ANY IDEA OF WHAT AND WHO AND, UH, WE CAN, WE CAN GET THAT DATA FOR THE, THOSE TRIPS.
UH, IT IS SELF-REPORTED, BUT WE CAN, UH, WE CAN, WE CAN GET THAT DATA FOR THOSE, YEAH.
IF WE COULD GET A LITTLE INFORMATION AS WELL AS SATURDAYS AND SUNDAYS.
AND I THINK WE'LL BE DISCUSSING THIS FURTHER LATER ON.
AND, UH, IS IT THE NEXT, YEAH, THE NEXT AGENDA ITEM? SO TRIP PURPOSES AFTER 6:00 PM YEAH.
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YES.JUST SO WE CAN KIND OF THINK OF WHAT OTHER OPTIONS WE MAY HAVE TO COVER THOSE TIMES IF THERE'S A CERTAIN PURPOSE FOR 'EM.
I CAN, UH, I CAN GET THAT DATA IN THE NEXT OR NEXT REPORT.
WE WILL HAVE THE, THE REDUCED, UH, LET'S SEE, THE REDUCTION GOES INTO EFFECT, UH, JANUARY NEXT MONTH.
SO JANUARY'S NUMBERS WILL HAVE, IN JANUARY, HAVE DECEMBER NUMBERS YET.
SO JUST KIND TAKE THAT WITH A GRAIN OF SALT, KNOWING THAT THAT'S WHAT YOU'RE GONNA GET TO SEE ALL THREE HOURS.
AND THEN AFTER THAT, IT'LL ONLY BE, YOU KNOW, A SHORTER PERIOD OF TIME.
BUT WE CAN GET YOU THAT, THAT DATA.
WE CAN PROVIDE IT, UH, NO PROBLEM IN GOING BACK ALL YEAR LONG IF YOU WANT.
WE HAVE PLENTY OF AWESOME, MR. CHAIRMAN.
IS THAT WHAT WE WANT THE YEAR? WELL, I'M SORRY.
DID WE WANT FOR 2024 FOR THE WHOLE YEAR, MAYBE AFTER 6:00 PM YEAH, I MEAN, IT WOULDN'T HURT.
I MEAN, AT LEAST GET KIND OF AN AVERAGE OF KIND OF, WHERE DO PEOPLE MOSTLY LIKE TO GO IF WE CAN, JUST SO WE KNOW HOW IT'S BEING UTILIZED.
AND THEN, AND THEN WE CAN ADD TO THAT THE CONVERSATIONS OF WHAT DO WE DO WITH THE SERVICE MOVING FORWARD? WHERE DO WE PRIORITIZE? OKAY.
AND I THINK YOU'LL SEE IN A LATER AGENDA ITEM, WE TALK ABOUT WEEKENDS, WHAT KIND OF DATA WE HAVE, AND IF THAT'S THE ACCEPTABLE FORMAT THAT YOU WANT BACK THEN, OR THERE'S SOMETHING DIFFERENT, WE CAN PROVIDE THAT.
SO WE CAN TALK ABOUT THAT A LITTLE BIT LATER, TOO, AS FAR SURE.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? SEEING NONE OR WE MOVE ON TO F PUBLIC TRANSIT AGENCY SAFETY PLAN? I BELIEVE THIS IS STILL JUST A DISCUSSION ITEM.
LOOKS LIKE IT DOES REQUIRE, IT DOES REQUIRE, UH, REQUIRE APPROVAL FROM THE COMMITTEE.
[f. PTASP – Public Transit Agency Safety Plan]
HE'S GOT, SO WE GOTTA TAKE A MOTION.THAT'S WHAT YOU'RE ASKING FOR.
UH, I CAN GIVE, UH,
SO, UH, THE FEDERAL TRANSIT ADMINISTRATION REQUIRES, UH, 53 0 7, UH, RECIPIENTS TO HAVE A PUBLIC TRANSPORTATION AGENCY SAFETY PLAN OR PT A S UH, THIS COVERS SAFETY AND SECURITY MEASURES IN PLACE BY TRANSIT AGENCIES.
UH, WSDOT PROVIDED A TEMPLATE AND IT WAS UPDATED AND APPROVED BY THE PUBLIC WORKS COMMITTEE IN 2020.
AND, UH, FDA ANNOUNCED IN SEPTEMBER A NEW REQUIREMENT TO BE LISTED IN THE PT A S UH, THE RISK OF ASSAULT ON TRANSIT WORKERS IN VEHICLES AND FACILITIES.
UH, THEY ALSO REQUESTED A LIST OF TOOLS TO MITIGATE THESE RISKS.
UH, WE CURRENTLY USE SIX OF THE 10 TOOLS LISTED, AND WE'RE PLANNING ON ADDING A, A SEVENTH, UH, THAT'D BE POSTING SIGNAGE IN VEHICLES, UH, AND FACILITIES ABOUT, UH, ANY PENALTIES FOR, FOR MISCONDUCT IN, IN VEHICLES OR, UH, TRANSIT FACILITIES.
UH, THE REST OF THE PT A WAS UPDATED TO REFLECT, UH, CURRENT MANAGEMENT STAFF, UH, REMOVE COMPUTER EXPRESS LANGUAGE, UH, FROM 2020, AND ANY UPDATES FROM THE PROVIDER REGARDING STANDARD, UH, SAFETY, PARDON ME, UH, SAFETY MEASURES IN THEIR FACILITIES.
WELL, I GUESS I'LL ASK FOR A MOTION IN A SECOND THEN TO BRING IT UP.
I'LL MAKE A MOTION SUPERVISOR, M**K SECOND BY SUPERVISOR HARTWIG.
ANY, ANYBODY HAVE ANY DISCUSSIONS OR ANY QUESTIONS ON THIS? A LOT OF INFORMATION THERE.
AND TO MAKE A DECISION ON THAT, IT, I REALLY WEREN'T AWARE THAT THERE WAS GONNA BE ACTION ITEMS ON THERE.
SO TO MAKE IT ON ANY KIND OF ACTION ON IT, IT REALLY, I THINK IT'S JUST BASICALLY UPDATING THE PLAN THOUGH, RIGHT? IT'S UPDATING THE PLAN AND INCLUDING, UH, THAT, UH, THAT RISK, THAT WAS A NEW REQUIREMENT FOR THE, THE NEW REQUIREMENT BY FEDERAL.
SO IT'S KIND OF LIKE A STANDARD THAT WE GOTTA ABIDE BY KIND OF DEAL.
YEAH, I WOULD ADD, OH YEAH, THAT ALL WERE, YEAH, THAT THEY'RE JUST UPDATING INFORMATION THAT CHARLIE MENTIONED.
AND THEN THE COST IS, UH, IS, IS JUST QUANTIFYING THAT, UH, YOU KNOW, THAT RISK ASSESSMENT TO THE DRIVERS AND THEN THE, YOU KNOW, UNDER $200 FOR THE PRINTING AND POSTING OF THE PERMANENT SIGNAGE, UH, REGARDING ASSAULTS OR POSSIBLE ASSAULTS ON TRANSIT WORK OR, SO, I MEAN, THERE'S A LOT THERE, BUT THIS ISN'T REALLY, YOU KNOW, MUCH OF A CHANGE AT ALL.
IT'S JUST AN UPDATE, AN UPDATE ON INFORMATION.
SEEMS PRETTY BOILERPLATE TO ME AT THIS POINT.
AND, AND, YEAH, IT'S, IT'S A LONG, LONG FILE HERE.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR DID YOU HAVE ANYTHING ELSE, CHARLIE, THAT YOU WANTED TO UPDATE US ON? UH, LET'S SEE.
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UH, LAST PAGE OF THAT HAS THE, UH, HAS SOME OF THE TOOLS LISTED THAT THE FDA OFFERED, UH, TOOLS TO MITIGATE THE, THE RISK.UM, AUTOMATIC VEHICLE LOCATION, UH, COMMUNICATION PROTOCOLS, UH, COVERT ER, PARDON ME, UH, COVERT OR SLASH OVERT EMERGENCY ALARMS, UH, DEESCALATION TRAINING, UH, OPERATING POLICIES AND PROCEDURES.
UH, THE ONE WE'LL BE ADDING IS SIGNAGE INFORMING RIDERS OF, UH, PENALTIES.
AND THEN THE LAST ONE IS, UH, VIDEO AND AUDIO, UH, SURVEILLANCE.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? SEEING NONE, WE'LL TAKE A VOTE.
MOVING ON TO THE NEXT ITEM, SHARED RIDE TAXI WEEKEND ANALYSIS.
AND THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WE DISCUSSED BEFORE.
NOW, DO WE NEED A MOTION ON THIS, OR IS THIS JUST A DISCUSSION, RIGHT? UH, CORRECT.
I'D LIKE TO TEE THIS ONE UP FOR YOU.
THIS IS JUST A DISCUSSION ITEM, NOT AN ACTION ITEM.
AND I CAN EXPLAIN WHY THAT, OKAY.
UH, YOU MAY RECALL FROM LAST MONTH'S DISCUSSION ABOUT
[g. Shared Ride Taxi Weekend Analysis]
REDUCING, UH, HOURS OF OPERATION THAT, UH, ANY REDUCTION LIKE THAT WOULD POTENTIALLY NEED A PUBLIC HEARING OR A PUBLIC MEETING AT THAT POINT.AND SO THIS ONE WOULD OBVIOUSLY BE WHAT WE WOULD CONSIDER OVER 10%, WHICH WE NEED A PUBLIC HEARING IF YOU WANNA DECIDE TO THAT.
SO IT WAS DISCUSSED AT THAT POINT, AND SINCE WE WEREN'T DISCUSSING, UH, ELIMINATION OF THE WEEKEND HOURS, WE THOUGHT IT WOULD BE BEST TO BRING IT BACK TO THE COMMITTEE AS A DISCUSSION ITEM FIRST TO SEE IF THAT'S THE, THE TRUE, UH, FEELING OF THE COMMITTEE AND, AND TIMING OF THIS WE WANNA TALK ABOUT AS WELL.
AND SO THAT'S WHY YOU'RE BRINGING IT FORWARD TO THIS, THE COMMITTEE AT THIS TIME, AND TO GIVE YOU SOME OF THAT, THAT DATA THAT WE JUST TALKED ABOUT EARLIER, ABOUT WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE, UH, GOING FORWARD.
SO WHAT DID WAS, UH, CHARLIE WAS ABLE TO GATHER, GATHER THE DATA ABOUT WHAT OUR WEEKEND, UH, RIDERSHIP LOOKS LIKE AS FAR AS THE NUMBERS OF RIDERS, THE RIDE NUMBER OF TRIPS THAT WERE PROVIDED, AS WELL AS GENERALLY SPEAKING, WHERE THOSE PEOPLE GO.
AGAIN, IT'S GENERALLY SPEAKING, IT'S, UH, FOR LACK OF BETTER TERMINOLOGY, IT'S FOR MOST OF 2024, THE DATA THAT YOU SEE, UH, AS YOU, AS YOU CAN IMAGINE, NOT THROUGH THE, THROUGH THE END, BECAUSE WE'RE NOT DONE WITH 2024 YET.
AND SO YOU'LL SEE A, A BUNCH OF EXHIBITS IN INSIDE THE DOCUMENT, AND WE DIDN'T WANNA TRY TO OVERWHELM YOU WITH, WITH TOO MUCH DATA, BUT WE WANNA MAKE SURE YOU GOT ENOUGH DATA TO, TO LOOK AT INFORMATION AND, AND EXHIBIT A, UH, IS SHOWN THE, THE TRIPS PURPOSES, UH, BOTH FOR SATURDAY AND SUNDAY.
SO WE DID, UH, SEPARATE THEM OUT BY NOT JUST THE WEEKEND, BUT BY SPECIFIC DAY OF THE WEEKEND SO THAT THE COMMITTEE CAN SEE IN CASE YOU WANT TO DO SOME KIND OF HYBRID INSTEAD OF ELIMINATING THE WEEKENDS ALTOGETHER, BUT WANT TO LOOK AT POTENTIALLY CHANGING TIMES AND ALL THAT KIND OF STUFF.
SO, WANNA MAKE SURE YOU HAD A, A FULL AMOUNT OF DATA.
AND SO UP ABOVE YOU'LL SEE THE, UH, TABLES OF DATA AND, AND SOMETIMES IT'S NICE TO SEE THAT SAME DATA, DATA IN, IN A PIE CHART TYPE, PIE TYPE, PIE CHART TYPE FORMAT.
SO YOU CAN GET A GOOD PERCENTAGE WISE TOO, SO YOU CAN SEE THE ACTUAL NUMBERS, UM, OF WHAT THAT IS.
AND THEN VERSUS THE PERCENTAGES AND END THE PIE CHART.
SO YOU'LL SEE FOR SUNDAY, AND AGAIN, I WANT TO POINT OUT, AND, AND CHARLIE MENTIONED THIS EARLIER, THESE ARE ALL SELF-REPORTED.
SO IF SOMEBODY TELLS US THAT THEY'RE GOING FOR EDUCATION AND TRAINING, WE DON'T VERIFY THAT DOUBLE CHECK AND TRIPLE CHECK AND STUFF LIKE THAT.
SO, UM, SO YOU GOTTA TAKE THOSE WITH, WITH A LITTLE BIT OF A GRAIN OF SALT.
BUT, UH, I THINK MOST PEOPLE ARE, ARE TRUTHFUL AS FAR AS WHERE THEY GO, BECAUSE IT REALLY DOESN'T MAKE A DIFFERENCE TO US WHERE WE'RE TAKING THEM.
AND SO YOU CAN SEE THAT THE NUMBER OF, WE HAVE THE, THE TRIP PURPOSE IN THE LEFT HAND COLUMN ON UPPER LEFT, UH, ON SUNDAY TOTAL TRIPS, UH, THE TRIP PERCENTAGES THAT YOU'LL SEE, AND THEN THE NUMBER OF INDIVIDUALS.
SO, UH, YOU'LL SEE THAT, UH, WHY I POINT THAT OUT IS THE NUMBER OF INDIVIDUALS IS IMPORTANT.
'CAUSE YOU'LL SEE THAT EDUCATION AND TRAINING WAS TWO TOTAL TRIPS.
AND YOU'LL SEE THE EMPLOYMENT WAS 293 TRIPS FOR 32 PEOPLE.
SO YOU CAN SEE THEY'RE TAKING IT MULTIPLE TIMES PER YEAR, NOT JUST ONE TIME A YEAR.
AND IT'S A, IT'S A, YOU KNOW, ONE OFF OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
BUT SOMEONE'S MAYBE AS MORE, UH, RELYING ON, ON THE SERVICE ON THE WEEKENDS.
UH, THEN WE STILL HAVE MEDICAL AND NUTRITION, UM, MOST LIKELY GROCERY STORE OR STUFF LIKE THAT.
UH, PERSONAL BUSINESS AS WELL AS SOCIAL AND REC RECREATION.
SO I NOTICED SOME POTENTIAL OVERLAP IN WHAT THAT MEANS, BUT, UH, THAT'S WHAT WE'RE, WHAT THE, THE CATEGORIES ARE CHOSEN FOR THIS.
SO YOU'LL SEE THOSE FOR, FOR SUNDAY.
UH, YOU'LL SEE THAT SOCIAL RECREATIONAL IS ABOUT 41% EMPLOYMENT, 34%, UH, PERSONAL BUSINESS 18, AND THEN OBVIOUSLY THE OTHER PARTS OF THE, THE, THE PART PIE CHART AS WELL.
AND THEN BELOW THAT, WE ALSO WANTED TO POINT OUT, UM, THE ELDERLY DISABLED VERSUS OTHER RIDERS, UH, 'CAUSE THAT WAS IMPORTANT AS FAR AS WHEN WE DID THE, UH, FAIR INCREASE AS FAR AS HOW WE'RE IMPACTING THEM.
SO WE WANT TO BREAK IT DOWN A LITTLE BIT FURTHER FOR YOU AS WELL TO SAY THAT IT'S, UH, THE ELDERLY DISABLED ON SUNDAYS, UH,
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ABOUT 82% OF OUR RIDES AND 18% IS, IS OTHER, WHETHER THEY'RE, UM, YOUTH OR ADULTS.UM, AND SO YOU'LL SEE THE SAME INFORMATION AS BROUGHT TO YOU FOR ON SATURDAY AS WELL.
SO, UH, I DON'T WANNA GLOSS OVER SATURDAY OR SKIP OVER IT BY JUST THAT IT'S BASICALLY THE SAME TYPE OF INFORMATION.
SO NO REAL NEED TO, TO RUN THAT AGAIN.
UH, 'CAUSE WE LOVE SPREADSHEETS AS WELL IN THE HIGHWAY DEPARTMENT IN TRANSIT.
AND SO, UM, WE WANT TO PROVIDE YOU A KIND OF A COST BREAKDOWN OF, OF WHAT THAT WOULD LOOK LIKE FINANCIALLY.
I KNOW THERE ARE A LOT OF NUMBERS IN THERE AND, AND, AND WE WANT TO, AGAIN, PROVIDE YOU NUMBERS, BUT MOST IMPORTANTLY, WE WANT TO LOOK AT 2024.
AND WHAT WE DID WAS WE BOLDED, UM, MAKE SURE THAT FOR UNDER, IN THE FIRST COLUMN UNDER SUNDAY, YOU'LL SEE THE BILL DOLLARS, BUT THEN THE TOTAL COST, UM, AND THIS DOES EXTRAPOLATE OUT TO THE END OF 2024 TO CHARLIE, CORRECT? ESTIMATED, UH, UH, YEAH, IT'S FOR THE FULL YEAR.
SO WE KIND OF ESTIMATED DECEMBER AS FAR AS HOW WE WERE GOING OUT.
SO YOU CAN SEE THAT THE TOTAL COST FOR SUNDAYS FOR THE ENTIRE YEAR WAS, UH, 44,000 TOTAL COST.
AND THEN WE BROKE THAT DOWN INTO WHAT THE FEDERAL SHARE WAS AND, AND STATE SHARE.
AND THEN AT THE FAR RIGHT HAND SIDE, THE LOCAL LEVY, AND THERE'S ALL SORTS OF COMMON COMMON COMMS AND THERE FOR OUR GRANTS THAT WE GET, OUR FARES THAT WE GET.
UH, SO THAT'S, WE TRIED TO MAKE SURE WE, WE BOLD OR HIGHLIGHTED THOSE ONES THAT WERE ACTUALLY IMPACTFUL FOR THE WEEKEND.
SO IF, FOR INSTANCE, IN 2024, UH, IF YOU WANTED TO ELIMINATE SUNDAYS, YOU WOULD'VE SAVED THE COUNTY LEVY $3,400, 34 16, THE FEDERAL SHARE, $26,000.
SO ROUGH SAVINGS OF ABOUT $30,000 TO THE TAXPAYERS OF THE UNITED STATES.
UH, IF YOU ELIMINATED SUNDAY SATURDAYS, EXCUSE ME, YOU WOULD SAVE THE FEDERAL STATE GOVERNMENT ABOUT $63,000.
AND THE LOCAL LEVY ABOUT $8,000.
SO AROUND TOTAL GRAND, TOTAL, ABOUT $70,000 DOWN BELOW.
WE, WE SUM THAT UP FOR THE WEEKEND TOTAL OF THE ONE 50 ALTOGETHER.
AND THEN AGAIN, THE FEDERAL SHARE AND THE, THE LOCAL LEVY.
AND SO THAT WE WANT TO GIVE YOU KIND OF A FLAVOR FOR WHAT KIND OF COST ARE WE TALKING ABOUT? THE LEVY MOUNT FOR TRANSIT IS ROUGHLY $350,000 A YEAR.
UH, WE ARE OFFSETTING THAT IN 24 AND 25 WITH SOME ARPA FUNDS YET.
AND SO SOMETIMES ALL THE NUMBERS MIGHT NOT MATCH UP ALL PERFECTLY, UH, AS YOU JUST HEARD, THE 85 21 GRANT EARLIER AS WELL.
SO, AND WE TRIED TO DO WAS PROJECT THAT OFF INTO, UH, 2025 AND WHAT THAT WOULD LOOK LIKE IN 2025.
AGAIN, BASED ON THE NUMBERS, WE'RE LOOKING AT AN, AN INCREASE IN, IN SERVICE FAIR COSTS FROM OUR PROVIDER RIGHT NOW.
AND WE'RE WORKING WITH THEM, UH, TO PROVIDE THAT SERVICE FEE FOR 2025.
SO WE'VE BEEN IN NEGOTIATIONS FOR THE LAST FEW MONTHS ON THAT, AND WE'RE GETTING REALLY CLOSE TO, TO FINALIZING THAT.
BUT WE TRIED TO PUT A CONTRACTED DOLLAR RATE IN THERE AND, UH, LOOK AT WHAT IT WOULD LOOK LIKE IN 25, BECAUSE 24 DOESN'T REALLY MATTER FOR, FOR 25.
SO I YOU'LL SEE AN, AN INCREASE IN, IN THERE BECAUSE OF THE, THE RATE INCREASE.
UH, AND SO YOU'LL SEE THAT, THAT IF YOU WERE LOOKING AT ELIMINATING THAT WEEKEND HOURS IN 25, UH, YOU'D BE SAVING THE COUNTY TAX TAXPAYERS 8,000 FOR SUNDAYS AND THEN THE 19,000, SO ROUGHLY $27,000 POTENTIAL SAVINGS.
UM, AGAIN, WE'D HAVE TO WORK WITH OUR VENDOR AND HOURS.
AND YOU, DID YOU WANT TO SHIFT THOSE HOURS TO THE WEEK? DID YOU WANNA JUST ELIMINATE THOSE HOURS ALTOGETHER? WHICH MEANS YOUR HOURLY RATE MIGHT GO UP, UH, BECAUSE OF, OF TIMING AND STUFF? AND, AND WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT DOING THIS TODAY, AND ONE OF THE REASON WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THIS IS THAT WE'RE, WE MAY OR MAY NOT BE GOING OUT FOR AN RFP, UH, AT SOME POINT THIS YEAR.
UH, WE'RE IN OUR LAST YEAR OF OUR, OUR CONTRACT THIS YEAR.
AND SO IT'D BE NICE TO KNOW IF THAT'S WHAT YOUR DECISION POINT IS, ESPECIALLY BEFORE BUDGET HITS IN IN JANUARY.
SO WE'RE NOT LOOKING FOR AN IMMEDIATE ANSWER ON THIS.
UH, BUT, UH, DEFINITELY WAS BROUGHT UP BY ONE OF THE COMMITTEE MEMBERS LAST MONTH.
AND SO I SAID WE TRY TO GET YOU AS MUCH INFORMATION AS POSSIBLE.
UH, WE'RE CERTAINLY WORKING AT OTHER OPTIONS AS FAR AS 26 AND 27 IS CONCERNED, UH, FOR BUDGETING AND FINANCE BECAUSE THOSE ARPA DOLLARS DO, UH, END, UH, AND THEY'LL BE GONE.
AND HOW DO WE FUND THE PROJECT, THE SHARED RIGHT TAXI GOING FORWARD? SO WE'RE CURRENTLY LOOKING AT OTHER OPTIONS AS WELL.
SO THE WEEKENDS WAS DEFINITELY SOME, A TOOL IN OUR TOOLBOX THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT FOR 26 AND 27.
UH, THE COMMITTEE IS CERTAINLY AWARE THAT WE'RE IN THE MIDDLE OF OUR TWO YEAR BUDGET CYCLE.
SO, UH, WE HAVE THE FUNDS WERE ALLOCATED FOR THIS PROJECT, FOR THIS PROGRAM, EXCUSE ME, IN 2025.
UH, SO I JUST WANNA POINT THAT OUT AS WELL.
SO, UM, THIS WOULD, LIKE I MENTIONED EARLIER, WOULD NEED TO GO TO A PUBLIC HEARING, UH, THEN THAT WOULD BE IN FRONT OF THIS COMMITTEE, UH, TO DISCUSS THAT WE WOULD LIKE TO HAVE THE PROPER NOTICES, UH, OUT THERE AS WELL.
SO, UM, I THINK WE'D HAVE A LITTLE MORE CONCERN FROM THE RESIDENTS ON THE WEEKEND HOURS.
UH, I KNOW WE HAD A SLIGHT FAIR INCREASE AND UH, WE WERE ABLE TO MITIGATE A LOT OF THOSE CONCERNS BY HAVING PUBLIC INFORMATION, MEANING EARLIER.
UH, WITH THIS ONE, IT'S A PRETTY
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CUT AND DRY.THERE'S NOT A LOT OF EXPLANATION TO GO INTO A, A DISCUSSION POINT.
UH, AS FAR AS LIKE FARES AND REVENUES, WE HAD A LOT OF DISCUSSION POINTS, BUT IF YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT JUST ELIMINATING A SERVICE FOR THE WEEKEND, IT'S PRETTY CUT AND DRY, OR WE CAN EXPLAIN THAT IN ABOUT 10 SECONDS TO THE PUBLIC.
SO, UH, WITH THAT, MR. CHAIR, THIS IS CERTAINLY A POLICY DECISION THAT IS, UH, AT THE PURVIEW OF THE COMMITTEE, AND I WOULD WANT TO MAKE SURE WE PROVIDE AS MUCH INFORMATION AND THERE'S MORE INFORMATION THAT YOU THINK WE, YOU MAY NEED.
UH, WE'D CERTAINLY BE WILLING TO PROVIDE THAT AS WELL.
UH, IT'D BE INTERESTING TO HEAR WHAT THE PUBLIC WOULD THINK ABOUT THIS IF WE DO GO, UH, YOU KNOW, IF, IF THE COMMITTEE DECIDES THAT, YOU KNOW WHAT, LET'S TAKE A LOOK AND, AND WHAT, GET FEEDBACK FROM THE PUBLIC ON WHAT THEY THINK ABOUT WEEKEND, IF WE WOULD CUT IT OUT, AS WELL AS WHAT OTHER OPTIONS DO WE HAVE AS, SAY THE COUNTY DOESN'T PROVIDE IT, BUT ANOTHER SERVICE WOULD PROVIDE IT AS WELL AND BE ABLE TO DO IT AT A CHEAPER RATE THAN WHAT WE COULD, AS ANOTHER POSSIBLE COST SAVINGS.
I DON'T LIKE TO CUT SERVICES BACK FROM THE ELDERLY AND DISABLED IF WE DON'T HAVE TO, BUT LIKE YOU SAY, WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE NUMBERS, SOMETIMES, EVEN IF THE MONEY'S COMING FROM THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT, IT'S COMING FROM THE TAXPAYER.
SO THAT'S SOMETHING TO ALWAYS CONSIDER.
SO IS ANYBODY ELSE IN THE COMMITTEE HAVE ANY THOUGHTS THAT THEY'D LIKE TO SHARE? JUST I'M THINKING ABOUT, YOU HAD MENTIONED AGE, AND I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S POSSIBLE, UM, AN AGE RANGE OF THE PEOPLE, I MEAN, OR IS IT MOSTLY THE ELDERLY THAT ARE USING IT ON THE WEEKEND, OR, YOU KNOW, YES.
IS IT THE YOUNG PEOPLE? I GUESS I'D LIKE TO KNOW.
SO IF ON HERE YEAH, IT'S ON HERE.
IF YOU GO TO THE FIRST, UH, EXHIBIT AND THE TRIPS BY GROUP, THE EXHIBIT A PIE CHART, IT'S UH, 82%.
SO 82%, A LOT OF IT'S THE OLDER PEOPLE THAT ARE AS ELDERLY DESCRIBED AS 60 OR OLDER.
SO IF YOU LOOK AT THE, THE CHART AND THE LOWER LEFT, UH, SUPERVISOR SPEL, UH, IF YOU GO DOWN A LITTLE, I CAN SEE YOUR COMPUTER SCREENS GO DOWN A LITTLE BIT MORE.
THE, THE BOTTOM LEFT SHOWS, UH, SUNDAY IS 80% ELDERLY AND DISABLED.
SO WE DID LUMP THEM, UH, TOGETHER.
UH, AND THEN THE RIGHT HAND SIDE IS, UH, 79% ON SATURDAY.
SO I ROUND THOSE NUMBERS TO ABOUT 80% FOR THE WEEKEND.
UM, YOU KNOW, IF YOU LOOK FOR THE COURSE OF THE WHOLE YEAR.
SO, UM, IF IT IS PURVIEW TO LOOK AT OTHER OPTIONS AS, AS THE CHAIR SAID, UH, WE CERTAINLY CAN, CAN COME BACK OVER THE NEXT SEVERAL MONTHS WITH OTHER OPTIONS THAT ARE OUT THERE FOR, UH, LOOKING AT A SERVICE AND, AND GET YOU SOME MORE INFORMATION ON WHAT THAT MIGHT LOOK LIKE AS WELL VERSUS, UH, ELIMINATING THE SERVICE AT THIS POINT FOR THE WEEKENDS.
I MEAN, I THINK, I DON'T, I DON'T THINK WE CAN MAKE A DECISION TO CUT SERVICES WITHOUT KNOWING WHAT OTHER OPTIONS ARE THERE, 80% OF THE ELDERLY.
UM, I THINK WE REALLY NEED TO HAVE ALL THE INFORMATION MM-HMM
SO IS THAT THE DIRECTION WE SHOULD GO FOR NOW, IS JUST GET MORE INFORMATION AS TO OTHER OPTIONS? UM, I WOULD SAY, OR WOULD, ARE YOU STILL INTERESTED IN HAVING A PUBLIC HEARING TO SEE WHAT THE PUBLIC MIGHT SAY ON THIS OR, OR JUST SEE WHAT WE HAVE FIRST FOR OTHER OPTIONS? I WOULD SAY BEFORE WE GO TO PUBLIC HEARING ROUTE, I MYSELF WOULD LIKE TO HEAR THE OTHER OPTIONS FOR THEM.
AND THEN ONCE WE HAVE ALL THE INFORMATION IS WHAT ARE THERE, YOU KNOW, WHAT ELSE CAN THEY DO TO GET TO WHERE THEY NEED TO GO? MM-HMM
AND ONCE WE HAVE THAT, THEN WE CAN HAVE A PUBLIC HEARING AND HAVE ALL THE INFORMATION OFFER THEM OTHER YEAH, BECAUSE I, I DON'T, I DON'T THINK IT WOULD TO TRY TO HAVE A PUBLIC HEARING WITHOUT HAVING THAT INFORMATION, I THINK WOULDN'T DO IT JUSTICE.
SUPERVISOR NEWMAN IS, UH, OH, SORRY.
JUST SO YOU CAN SEE IT'S BEHIND YOU SOMETIMES YOU GOTTA YELL AT, SO I'M VERY FAMILIAR WITH HOW THESE, UH, THIS TAXI SERVICE WORKS.
AND IN MY OPINION, YOU DO NEED TO FIND SOME OPTIONS, UM, BECAUSE THAT, THAT LOCAL SHARE, THAT LEVY AMOUNT IS REGARDLESS MAKING THESE CHANGES, YOU'RE GONNA SEE IT RISE, RISE, RISE, IT'S HISTORICAL RIDERSHIP IS GOING DOWN, AND RIGHT NOW IT'S WHAT'S GOT 350,000.
NEXT YEAR IT'S 400 SOME THOUSAND, AND WE DON'T KNOW EXACTLY WHAT THE 2026 IS GONNA BE BECAUSE IT'S GONNA BE AN RFP AND THOSE COSTS ARE GONNA GO UP.
SO, SO THAT, WAS THAT THE CORRECT NUMBERS? UH, IN ROUND NUMBERS, YES.
I MEAN, WE WERE ANTICIPATING, UH, AGAIN, WHEN YOU'RE IN CONTRACT NEGOTIATION, IT'S ALWAYS TOUGH TO ESTIMATE IN THE LAST SEVERAL YEARS WITH THE, UM, RATE OF INFLATION AND EVERYTHING ELSE GOING ON, IT'S VERY TOUGH TO SAY WHAT, WHAT OUR VEHICLE'S GONNA COST AND 26 AND 27.
SO, UH, YEAH, WE WERE ANTICIPATING ABOUT
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4 50, 400 50,000 IN 26.I THINK IT WAS FIVE 50, SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
UH, SO, UM, YES, THE, WHEN THE ARPA FUNDS RUN OUT, UH, THE, THE LOCAL SHARE, UH, DEFINITELY INCREASES.
AND WE'LL ALSO BE TRANSFERRING OVER FROM THE FEDERAL TO JUST A STATE ONLY, UH, POT OF MONEY AS WELL.
SO, UM, WE'RE DEFINITELY, WE'RE OPEN TO OTHER CONVERSATION, AS I MENTIONED LAST MONTH TO OTHER MUNICIPALITIES.
I'M LOOKING RIGHT AT MR. NEWMAN ON THAT ONE TOO.
AND, AND HE HAS INDICATED THE WILLINGNESS TO, TO HAVE SOME CONVERSATIONS, UM, ON THAT AS WELL.
SO, UH, WE WILL LOOK AT OPTIONS, UH, ALL OVER THE BOARD ON THIS.
UH, WITHOUT A DOUBT CHARLIE'S A A GOOD INDIVIDUAL TO PUT ON THAT, THAT TYPE OF PROJECT AND, AND WORKING WITH CONTEXT THROUGHOUT THE STATE AND SEE WHAT OTHER MUNICIPALITIES ARE DOING AS WELL.
SO FOLLOWING THAT THOUGHT PROCESS THEN, IS THAT WHAT EVERYBODY WOULD LIKE TO SEE? IF WE CAN FIND OTHER OPTIONS FOR WEEKENDS AND POSSIBLY SOME LOW BUDGET STUFF, UH, DO WE HAVE KIND OF A TIMEFRAME, SCOTT, THAT YOU'RE LOOKING FOR? I MEAN, ARE YOU THINKING JANUARY OR IS IT GONNA TAKE MAYBE TILL FEBRUARY TO GET ALL THIS PUT TOGETHER? IT'S, IT'S GONNA TAKE US A LITTLE BIT OF TIME ON THIS.
I'D SAY WE WILL BE SHOOTING FOR BEFORE BUDGET SEASON HITS, SO FEBRUARY, MARCH, OR MAYBE LATE APRIL INTO MAY.
BECAUSE I MEAN, IF, IF WE GO TO, TO A, A PUBLIC HEARING, AND I MEAN, WE'RE GONNA NEED TIME FOR THAT AS WELL, RIGHT? CORRECT.
THAT'S WHAT I'M SAYING, THE WHOLE PROCESS BY BEFORE BUDGET TIME HITS.
SO THAT YOU'D BE DONE AND HAVE THAT DISCUSSION MAYBE BEFOREHAND.
UM, IT JUST, WE WANNA, WE PROVIDE THIS INFORMATION TO YOU AS WE DID RIGHT HERE.
WE WANT TO GIVE YOU REALLY SOLID NUMBERS.
NOT JUST ESTIMATES OF INDUSTRY AVERAGES, BUT ACTUALLY HAVE TRUE CONVERSATIONS WITH, WITH OTHER ENTITIES AND, AND SEEING WHAT THEY WOULD BE.
AND JUST ONE LAST THING IS SERVICE AREA.
I JUST STARTED TO THINK OF SERVICE.
THIS IS NOT JUST WEST BEND, BUT IT'S ALL OF WASHINGTON COUNTY.
NOW IT'S, UH, I WANNA MAKE SURE I'M CLEAR ON THIS, THAT, UH, SO THE SHARED RIGHT TAXI SYSTEM SYSTEM IS WITHIN THE WHOLE COUNTY.
WE DO GO INTO OZAKI COUNTY, UH, WE DO DO CITY WEST BEND TO CITY WEST BEND RIDES WHEN WE PROVIDE WASHINGTON COUNTY PROVIDES DOOR TO DOOR SERVICE.
SO THAT MEANS WE WILL GO TO THE DOOR AND HELP THEM OUT THEIR DOOR AND WHEREVER THEY'RE GOING, GET THEM INTO THE DOOR, THE CITY WEST BEND PROVIDES CURB TO CURBSIDE SERVICE.
THAT'S WHY WE'RE NOT, AGAIN, PART OF THAT, THAT FEDERAL STATE MONEY.
AND THAT'S WHY OURS ARE, ARE DIFFERENT ON THAT.
AND SO, NOT SAYING ONE'S BETTER THAN THE OTHER, BUT THAT'S THE DIFFERENCE.
SO WE DO PROVIDE, UH, A LIMITED AMOUNT OF CITY TO CITY RIDES, BUT TYPICALLY SPEAKING, MOST OF OUR RIDES ARE FROM ONE MUNICIPALITY TO ANOTHER, UH, WITH WITHIN OUR COUNTY.
SO EVERYBODY OH, SUPERVISOR M**K.
YEAH, JUST SO AN OBSERVATION, YOU KNOW, ON, ON THE NUMBERS HERE, IT'S, THE NUMBERS AREN'T HUGE, BUT AS THE PERCENTAGES, YOU KNOW, THE USAGE IS FLAT OR DECLINING, BUT IF YOU LOOK AT IT LIKE FOR NEXT YEAR, THE COST TO PROVIDE THAT JUST ON THE COUNTY LEVEL IS LIKE TWO AND A HALF X WHAT IT IS THIS YEAR.
AND IN TOTAL, IT'S A DIFFERENCE BETWEEN A HUNDRED THOUSAND AND 130,000.
SO, YOU KNOW, ANOTHER 30% AND THE COST PER RIDE ON A WEEKEND IS SUBSTANTIALLY HIGHER THAN IT IS ON THE WEEKDAY.
I KNOW THERE'S SOME ECONOMIES OF SCALE WITH THAT, BUT I MEAN, YOU KNOW, THERE'S A, YOU KNOW, THERE'S SORT OF AN INEVITABILITY TO THIS THAT I SEE THAT IT'S JUST WITH SOME OF THE THINGS HAPPENING WITH OUR ARPA MONEY GOING AWAY AND THINGS LIKE THAT, YOU KNOW, THESE ARE THE KIND OF DECISIONS THAT WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO, YOU KNOW, TO DEAL WITH.
AND SO YEAH, THE DATA ON WHERE THEY'RE GOING, UH, THE TRIP PURPOSES, UH, UH, UH, YOU KNOW, INFORMATION, THAT KIND OF THING, THAT'S ALL GOOD TO KNOW.
UM, BUT YEAH, THESE ARE THE KINDS OF THINGS THAT WE HAVE TO LOOK AT.
AND SO INVARIABLY YOU'RE GONNA HAVE SOMEBODY THAT ISN'T HAPPY, BUT WELL, THE, IT'S DEFINITELY GOTTA BE ON THE TABLE, RIGHT? ABSOLUTELY.
AND IF I COULD ADD TO THAT TOO, THAT'S WHY I WAS WONDERING ABOUT THE, WHEN I TALKED BEFORE, ABOUT THE NIGHT HOURS, YOU KNOW, THE NINE O'CLOCK.
IF WE COULD LOOK AT THAT, DOES IT MAKE MORE SENSE TO CUT THE NIGHT BACK TO EIGHT O'CLOCK VERSUS, AND MAYBE KEEP A LITTLE WEEKEND HOURS IF WE LOOK AT THE WHOLE PROGRAM, UH, AND, AND RETHINK IT, RESTRUCTURE IT, MAYBE THAT'S MORE PRUDENT THAN JUST LOOKING AT WEEKENDS TOO.
YOU KNOW, JUST IN, IN THAT CONVERSATION, IF WE'RE LOOKING AT OTHER OPTIONS FOR THEM, CAN WE WORK IN THE HOURS THAT THOSE OPTIONS ARE AVAILABLE? DOES THAT MAKE SENSE? BECAUSE WE'RE LOOKING AT OTHER, OTHER OPTIONS FOR THE PEOPLE.
IF WE, IF WE DETERMINE THAT WE NEED TO MOVE AWAY FROM THIS, AND THERE ARE OTHER THINGS IN THAT DATA, UM, THE HOURS OF OPERATION THAT THOSE MIGHT BE AVAILABLE, IF WE'RE LOOKING AT IT TO THAT, TO THAT POINT.
SO IF THERE ARE OTHER OPTIONS FOR THESE PEOPLE, WHAT TIME DO THOSE GO TILL? DO THEY GO FIVE? ARE THERE, ARE THERE LATER THINGS THAT WE CAN GET 'EM INTO AT NINE O'CLOCK? AND WE DON'T HAVE TO DO THAT ANYMORE.
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JUST BE NICE TO KNOW THAT INFORMATION IN ORDER TO MAKE A A YOU MEAN IF THE RIDERS HAVE THE ABILITY TO CHANGE, GO EARLIER THAT ARE AVAILABLE TO THEM MM-HMM.SO IF WE DECIDE, MOVE AWAY FROM THE EIGHT, WELL, HEY, YOU KNOW WHAT, X HAS THREE THAT ARE RUNNING HERE NINE O'CLOCK AT NIGHT.
IT WOULD JUST BE NICE TO KNOW IF THERE ARE ON OTHER THINGS OUT THERE, THEN WE CAN SAY, YOU KNOW WHAT, HEY, THESE ARE YOUR OPTIONS.
WE'RE, THIS IS JUST NOT FEASIBLE FOR US.
BUT HERE IS SOMETHING FOR YOU NOT JUST TO SAY, YOU KNOW, WHAT THE HECK WITH IT AND I'D LIKE TO HAVE THAT INFORMATION TO MAKE A GOOD, IT WOULD JUST BE, IT WOULD BE, IT WOULD BE, IT WOULD BE A LOT EASIER TO MAKE A DECISION.
KNOWING THAT, AND I THINK THAT'S WHAT THEY'LL DO IS THEY'LL RESEARCH THAT AND SEE WHAT OTHER OPTIONS WE HAVE.
SO, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR, YEAH, I'D SAY SCOTT OR CHARLIE, THE OTHER THING WOULD BE IMPORTANT TO KNOW IS FROM THE PROVIDER, IF THERE'S LIKE A MODEL OR A BLEND, SO YOU TALKED ABOUT, YOU KNOW, AND THIS IS JUST SPEAKING, YOU KNOW, IF YOU ELIMINATED SATURDAY AND SUNDAY, BUT DOES IT INCREASE YOUR, YOU KNOW, THE CONTRACT COST BECAUSE YOU DON'T HAVE THAT? IS THERE SOME TYPE OF A MODEL OR A BLEND? YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN? THAT SORT OF MAXIMIZES, HEY, LOOK, YOU KNOW, WE COULD DO THIS, AND THE BEST BANG FOR YOUR DOLLAR IS, YOU KNOW, A SCHEDULE THAT LOOKS LIKE THIS.
MAYBE IT'S, IT'S THE MOST ATTRACTIVE TO THEIR DRIVERS OR WHATEVER THAT WE CAN DO IF THEY, YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN? I MEAN, DO YOU KNOW OUR, OUR PROVIDER HAPPENS TO BE IN THE AUDIENCE AND THAT IS SOMETHING THAT HE JUST HEARD, SO WE GO WORK WITH HIM ON THAT.
YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN? I MEAN, WHATEVER MODEL I UNDERSTAND THEY HAVE BASED ON THEIR, ON, ON THE DRIVERS OR THE SCHEDULES, YOU KNOW, WHAT'S, YOU KNOW, YOU KNOW, WHERE THEY CAN SCHEDULE PEOPLE WHERE, YOU KNOW, WHERE, YOU KNOW, AGAIN, WE'RE THE BEST VALUE.
YES, WE, WE SWEET SPOTLIGHT, WE CERTAINLY DO THAT.
WE WORKED WITH THE, THE, THE VENDOR WHEN WE WERE DOING OUR HOURS JUST AS WHAT YOU SAW LAST MONTH TO SEE ABOUT RIDER, THEIR DRIVERS AND STUFF LIKE THAT.
SO YES, WE, WE, WE CAN CERTAINLY WORK WITH THEM.
EXTEND, KEEP THE WORKING ON WITH THEM.
SO YOU MODEL SOMETHING THAT, OKAY.
SO WE GOT A KIND OF A THUMBS UP OR A DIRECTION NOW OF WHERE TO GO.
WE'RE, WE'RE OKAY WITH THAT NOW.
I, I FEEL WE HAVE GOOD DIRECTION.
I APPRECIATE THAT, THE CONVERSATION THAT THE COMMITTEE HAD ON THIS.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? SEEING NONE, WE'LL MOVE ON TO ITEM H, UPDATE 20, 24, 25 STRATEGIC PRIORITIES.
NOW YOU GUYS GOTTA LET ME KNOW IF I NEED A MOTION ON THIS OR NOT.
I, OH, IT'S JUST DISCUSSION ONLY.
WE'RE LOOKING AT IS, YOU'LL HAVE IN FRONT OF YOU, YOU'VE GOT THE, THE THREE STRATEGIC PRIORITIES THAT WE HAVE GOING, AND WE CERTAINLY WILL
[h. Update – 2024-2025 Strategic Priorities]
PROBABLY BE ADDING MORE AFTER YOUR RETREAT, UH, THAT YOU'RE LOOKING AT, UH, DOING IT IN JANUARY.UH, THESE ARE, UH, INCOMPLETE AS YOU SAW THE EARLY ONES THAT JOSH DID.
SO THESE ARE KIND OF, UH, UH, A REAL OFFLINE OUTLINE IN DRAFT THAT MOST OF THEM WERE COMPLETED IN THEIR, IN THEIR CURRENT STAGES ALREADY.
UH, AS THE COMMITTEE MAY KNOW, UH, LED THATS, WE'VE BEEN WORKING ON FOR A WHILE THAT THE 2050 PLANS, UH, THAT FOR THE LOCAL MUNICIPALITIES AND FOR THE COUNTY WE'RE BRINGING BACK, AND THEN THE COUNTY MA CAMPUS MA MASTER PLAN, WHICH IS, IS, IS CURRENTLY UNDERWAY.
AND SO WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT DOING IS, IS BUILDING THESE OUT FOR THE FUTURE FOR THE NEXT TWO YEARS CYCLE AS WELL.
SO WHAT YOU SEE IN THERE IS KIND OF MORE OR LESS WHAT WAS DONE.
UH, WHAT I NEED TO DO BEFORE NEXT COMMITTEE MEETING OR FEBRUARY MEETING IS TO, TO BUILD THESE OUT WITH SOME NEW DATES AND NEW GOALS.
I GOTTA WORK WITH, UH, SUPER, UH, CHAIRMAN SHERON TO, UH, WITH THE MASTER PLAN ONE TO GET NEW DATES IN THERE AND STUFF LIKE THAT.
SO, UH, THESE ARE JUST BILLY BROUGHT TO YOUR ATTENTION TODAY TO KNOW WHAT'S WAS, UH, OUT OF YOUR LAST, UH, SESSION, WHAT WAS DONE BEFORE, HOW WE'RE DOING ON THOSE, AND THEN HOW WE'RE LOOKING AT DOING THESE FORWARD.
SO BASICALLY, IF YOU HAVE ANY, ANY COMMENTS ABOUT ANY OF THOSE THREE OF, OF ONES THAT WE'D CERTAINLY BE WILLING TO LISTEN TO, UM, AND TAKE INTO ACCOUNT AND WHEN I BRING 'EM BACK FORWARD TO YOU, UH, NEXT MONTH OR, OR THE NEXT MONTH AFTER THAT, YOU CAN CERTAINLY ADD COMMENTS AT THAT POINT.
UH, FOR THE LEAD LATERALS, FOR INSTANCE, UH, OBVIOUSLY WE HAVE A, A PLAN IN PLACE.
THE VILLAGE OF QO SCU IS NOW, UH, COMPLETE, SO THAT'S VERY, EXTREMELY POSITIVE.
THEY'RE NOW LEAD LATERAL FREE, UH, VILLAGE OF SLINGER.
HOPEFULLY THE BEGINNING PART OF THIS COMING YEAR IN 25 WILL BE LEAD FREE AS WELL.
UH, WORKING WITH THE CONTINUE TO BE WORKING WITH THE CITY OF WEST BEND, THEY HAD COMPLETED SEVERAL OF THEIR, UH, STREET PROJECTS READY WITH SOME LEAD LATERALS, AND SO WAITING ON, ON, UH, INVOICE REQUESTS FROM THEM TO, TO MAKE THE PAYMENTS FOR 2024 AND THEN, UH, START WORK WITH THE CITY OF HARTFORD IS OUR OUR NEXT, UH, GOAL TO GO AROUND.
AND, UH, AS YOU GO THROUGH THE BUDGET PROCESS THIS YEAR, YOU'LL SEE THIS COME BACK BEFORE YOU AS WELL.
AND IF YOU SO DECIDE TO DESIRE TO FUND IT, UH, WE WILL THEN MAKE IT HAPPEN GOING TO THOSE MUNICIPALITIES AND, AND, UH, WITH A STRETCH GOAL OF OBVIOUSLY HAVING LEAD FREE, UH, COMMUNITIES IN WASHINGTON COUNTY.
SO THAT'S THE, THE LEAD LADDER ONE, THE 2050 PLANS.
UH, WE ARE, UM, WE ARE BEHIND, YOU'LL SEE THE GOAL IS IN RED, UH, WORKING WITH THE CITY OF HARTFORD IN, IN THE TOWN OF FARMINGTON
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TO, UH, TO GET THOSE PRESENTED TO THOSE MUNICIPALITIES.UM, UN UNFORTUNATELY I WASN'T ABLE TO DO THOSE IN, IN DECEMBER, AND IT'S LOOKING LIKE JANUARY OR FEBRUARY I'LL BE WORKING WITH THOSE MUNICIPALITIES TO PRESENT THEM.
UH, BOTH HAVE BEEN PRESENTED WITH THE FINAL, UH, VERSION OR FINAL DRAFT VERSION I SHOULD SAY, AND READY TO GO TO THEIR COUNCILS AND BOARDS.
IT'S JUST A MATTER OF COORDINATION NOW, MORE THAN ANYTHING BETWEEN MY SCHEDULE FOR FARMINGTON, I, I COULDN'T MAKE IT, UH, THAT ONE WEEK.
UM, SO WE'LL GET THERE WITH THOSE MUNICIPALITIES.
THEY, THEY'VE SEEN IT, THEY'VE HAD IT.
UM, AND OBVIOUSLY THEY'RE, YOU KNOW, BUDGETS PASSED RIGHT NOW, SO THEY'LL HAVE IT FOR NEXT YEAR'S BUDGET AND WE'LL BE PICKING SOME MORE MUNICIPALITIES AND HELPING GET THOSE DONE.
YET THIS CALENDAR YEAR, UM, ADDISON HAS REACHED OUT AND WE'RE LOOKING FOR POTENTIAL.
ANOTHER PARTNER, I BELIEVE JACKSON HAS MENTIONED IT IN THE PAST, SO I'LL BE REACHING OUT TO, TO THEM TO SEE IF THERE'S, UM, INTEREST IN THOSE.
AND THEN COUNTY MA MASTER PLAN, AS I MENTIONED, I'LL BE MEETING WITH THE, WITH THE CHAIRMAN HERE TO, TO KIND OF BETTER FILL THAT ALL OUT.
WE'LL BE GETTING THESE, THESE TO YOU.
IF ANYBODY HAS ANY COMMENTS EITHER NOW OR, UH, WOULD LIKE TO, TO CONTACT MYSELF OR THE CHAIRMAN, WE CAN CERTAINLY WORK THAT THROUGH.
BUT, SO JUST LET YOU KNOW THESE ARE THREE INITIATIVES THAT CAME UP BEFORE.
WE'LL BE WORKING ON THESE FOR THE NEXT SEVERAL YEARS AND AS WELL AS, UH, ONCE YOU HAVE YOUR RETREAT, UH, THERE COULD BE OTHER ONES COMING YOUR WAY TOO THAT YOU'D BE INTERESTED IN.
OKAY, ANY QUESTIONS? AWESOME, SEEING NONE.
OUR NEXT MEETING DATE IS JANUARY 16TH, 2025.