* This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting. NOTICE THROUGH THE CLERK'S [00:00:01] OFFICE. WE THANK YOU FOR YOUR INTEREST AND ATTENDANCE TODAY. WE WILL CONTINUE IF EVERYONE WOULD PLEASE RISE WITH A MOMENT OF SILENT PRAYER AND A PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE. I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE ALL TO THE OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS, ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL. THE NEXT ITEM ON OUR AGENDA THIS EVENING IS THE MINUTES OF THE DECEMBER 18TH MEETING. DID ANYONE NOTICE ANY CORRECTIONS THAT NEED TO BE MADE TO THE MINUTES THAT WERE POSTED? SEEING NONE, THE MINUTES WILL STAND. MOVING ON TO ITEM NUMBER THREE, DISCUSSION OR POSSIBLE ACTION ITEMS. THE FIRST ITEM IS A PRESENTATION FROM WEST BEND, UH, SCHOOL DISTRICT SUPERINTENDENT, JENNIFER WIMMER. JEN, THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR BEING HERE. THANK YOU. DO I NEED TO MAKE MY MIC HOT, OR IS SOMEONE DOING THAT? IT'S ALL READY TO GO. I'M LIKE, ALL RIGHT. UH, THANK YOU FOR, UH, THE OPPORTUNITY TO HAVE THE CONVERSATION TODAY. WE'VE HAD SOME CONVERSATIONS, [a. Presentation – Superintendent Jennifer Wimmer] MAYBE IN SMALL GROUPS AROUND THE UWWC PROPERTY. I WAS A MEMBER OF THE TASK FORCE THAT LOOKED AT THAT PIECE OF PROPERTY. UM, SO JUST FURTHERING THAT CONVERSATION. I WAS ASKED TODAY IF I WOULD BE WILLING TO COME AND, AND HAVE A DISCUSSION WITH THE EXECUTIVE COMMITTEE AROUND SOME OF THOSE PIECES AND SOME OF THOSE POTENTIAL PLANS. UM, SO IN THE PAST, UH, AGAIN, THE AREA SUPERINTENDENTS, YOU HAVE MULTIPLE SCHOOL DISTRICTS. UH, YOU SHOULD BE REALLY PROUD OF THE COLLABORATION THAT GOES ON ACROSS SCHOOL DISTRICTS. WE'RE ALL, UH, VERY IN TUNE TO CREATING OPPORTUNITIES FOR KIDS, UH, ACROSS THOSE DISTRICTS. SO WE HAD GIVEN SOME INFORMATION TO BOTH JOSH SHOWMAN AS WELL AS, UH, JOEL ERT AROUND THE POTENTIAL THAT THAT CAMPUS HOLDS, UH, FOR THE FUTURE, MAYBE A LITTLE BIT LONGER TERM FUTURE. SO WE'D BE VERY INTERESTED IN FURTHERING THOSE CONVERSATIONS AS WELL AS A TEAM. BUT TODAY I AM TALKING ABOUT THE INTEREST THAT WEST BEND HAS, UM, AND SOME OF THE PROGRAMMING THAT WE HAVE AND HOW WE MIGHT BE ABLE TO COLLABORATE ON THAT. SO, UH, FAST FORWARD A LITTLE BIT. UH, WE'VE HAD LOTS OF TOURS. I SAID I THINK I COULD GIVE THAT TOUR MYSELF AT THIS POINT ON THAT CAMPUS. UM, BUT WE HAVE TALKED WITH JUST MINIMALLY WITH OUR BOARD RIGHT NOW. PEOPLE MIGHT NOT REALIZE I HAVE A LOT OF ADDITIONAL PROGRAMS. UH, IF YOU'RE FAMILIAR WITH WHERE BADGER MIDDLE SCHOOL IS, OUR, UM, DIRECTIVE, OUR, OUR OFFICE OPERATIONS ARE RIGHT ACROSS THE STREET IN THE EDUCATION SERVICE CENTER. I HAVE ABOUT 125 STUDENTS BEING SERVED IN THE BASEMENT OF WHAT IS AN OFFICE BUILDING. UM, SO LOOKING AT SOME SPACE AND MAYBE A FIRST STEP FORWARD ON HOW WE COULD COLLABORATE AND CREATE OPPORTUNITIES FOR PROGRAMS. SO THOSE PROGRAMS THAT WE HAVE ON THAT CAMPUS ARE A MIX OF CREDIT ACCELERATION, SOME ALTERNATIVE EDUCATION, SOME AT RISK PROGRAMMING, UM, AND THERE'S ALSO FUTURE OPPORTUNITIES. ALL OF US SERVE, UM, SOME PROGRAMS, 18 TO 21-YEAR-OLD PROGRAMMING. SO STUDENTS WITH, UM, SIGNIFICANT DISABILITIES WHO MIGHT POST, UH, GRADUATION. THEY'RE ALLOWED TO HAVE SERVICE THROUGH AGE 21. RIGHT NOW, THEY'RE AT DIFFERENT UNIQUE SPOTS, OR THEY MIGHT MAINTAIN SOME SERVICES AT OUR HIGH SCHOOL, UM, POST-GRADUATION. WE'D LIKE TO, TO LOOK EVEN LONGER TERM FOR THOSE STUDENTS. BUT OF UTMOST IMPORTANCE TO US IS THOSE 125 STUDENTS THAT ARE IN THE BASEMENT. UH, THERE'S NO EXTERIOR OR LIGHT, THERE'S NO AMENITIES ON THAT CAMPUS. SO WE STARTED TALKING ABOUT, AS WE FIGURE OUT A LONG-TERM PLAN FOR THE UWWC CAMPUS AND WHAT THAT COULD DO, WHAT MAYBE COULD WE START WITH AND GROW WITH. UM, SO WE'VE, UH, LOOKED AT AND IDENTIFIED SOME SPACE ROUGHLY ABOUT, UM, 4,000 OF A 6,000 SQUARE FOOT OFFICE SPACE TO LOOK AT AND MAYBE SERVE SOME OF THOSE PROGRAMS THERE. WE ALSO HAVE TALKED ABOUT, UM, SOME THINGS THAT WE COULD WORK IN COLLABORATION WITH, WITH THE COUNTY. UM, YOU KNOW, YOU HAVE VIABLE SPACE WITH THE GYM, THE THEATER, ALL OF THOSE. UM, SO HOW DO YOU MANAGE THOSE SPACES? WE'RE, WE'RE IN THAT BUSINESS, UH, WHEN WE MANAGE OUR, OUR SCHOOLS, OUR COMMUNITY SCHOOLS AS WELL. UH, SO WE MANAGE SOME OF THOSE. SO RIGHT NOW, WE ARE LOOKING AT, AND WE COULD STEP FORWARD WITH A SMALL PIECE OF PROGRAMMING ON THAT CAMPUS. UM, SO WE'RE, WE'RE READY TO DO THAT AND TO TALK ABOUT WHAT EXPRESSING OUR INTEREST LOOKS LIKE. AND I KNOW THAT YOU ARE FIGURING THAT OUT AS A TEAM. AND WHAT WOULD YOU BE LOOKING FOR? UM, SO WE'RE LOOKING FOR JUST A SMALL SLIVER AND THEN A LARGER, UM, MAYBE FUTURE OPPORTUNITY TO HAVE COLLABORATION ACROSS DISTRICTS OR SOME OPPORTUNITIES WITH AGENCIES THAT WE UTILIZE, UM, AS TUITION PLACEMENTS. SO WE USE MULTIPLE AGENCIES TO SERVE STUDENTS THAT MAYBE CAN'T, UM, BE SERVED IN OUR PUBLIC SCHOOL SETTINGS. AND RIGHT NOW, THAT'S, UM, HAPPENING AT NOT ONLY [00:05:01] THE COST FOR THE TUITION SEAT, BUT ALSO SIGNIFICANT TRANSPORTATION COSTS AROUND, UM, THAT, SO JUST LOOKING AT VIABLE PARTNERS, UM, IN THAT SPACE AS WELL. SO THAT KIND OF TAKES US TO WHERE THOSE CONVERSATIONS ARE. CERTAINLY, WE'VE HAD CONVERSATIONS AROUND, HEY, YOU'VE, YOU'VE GOT THAT BUILDING ACCESSIBLE AND READY. IT, IT, IT LOOKS LIKE THE CLASS JUST WENT, WENT OUT FOR, FOR A BREAK. UM, SO HOW MIGHT WE COLLABORATE ON USING A LITTLE BIT OF THAT FOOTPRINT NOW, SHOWING PEOPLE AND MODELING HOW THAT COULD BE USED OR EXPANDED ON IN THE FUTURE, AND HOW YOU COULD COSER IN A COMMUNITY. YOU KNOW, THERE'S CERTAINLY OPPORTUNITY FOR, YOU KNOW, CHILDCARE FOR ELDER SENIOR I, WHICH FITS INTO I THINK, SOME OF THE PRELIMINARY CONVERSATIONS THIS TEAM HAS HAD AS YOU FIGURE OUT THE VISION FOR THAT CAMPUS AS WELL. I'LL PAUSE THERE. ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS AROUND KIND OF WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT, WHO WE SERVE, HOW WE SERVE? YEAH, GO FOR IT. SURE. THANK YOU. UH, JUST ONE QUESTION. SO, SO NEXT WEEK WE'RE STARTING THE MASTER PLAN COMMITTEE, AND ONE OF THE THINGS WE'RE GONNA LOOK AT IS WHAT ARE WE THINKING ABOUT DOING WITH THAT BUILDING? YOU HAD MENTIONED THAT, UH, 4,000 SQUARE FEET IS KIND OF WHAT YOUR INTEREST LEVEL IS. DO YOU HAVE ANY IDEA WHAT THAT SQUARE FOOTAGE MIGHT BE IN YOUR LONGER TERM PLAN? SURE. SO THAT DEPENDS ON ARE THERE MULTIPLE SERVICES ON CAMPUS? SO WHEN WE LOOK AT, THAT'S, THAT'S ME, AND I'M, I'M ONE DISTRICT, SO I CAN ONLY SPEAK TO THAT, BUT CERTAINLY, UM, YOUR OTHER SUPERINTENDENTS HAVE INTEREST BECAUSE THEN WE COULD CONSOLIDATE SOME PROGRAMMING AND LOOK AT THAT A LITTLE BIT MORE ROBUSTLY IN THE FUTURE. UM, SO, AND AGAIN, WE'RE LOOKING AT A CONTINUUM OF PROGRAMS. WE HAD MET LAST YEAR. AGAIN, WE WERE, UM, I, I WAS A REP FOR THE TEAM IN THE TASK FORCE, SO WE WERE LOOKING AT POTENTIAL PIECES. UM, AND WE, THERE'S SOME OTHER CAMPUSES AND MODELS IN THE STATE ON HOW DO YOU CREATE PROGRAMS, UM, THAT MIGHT BE SPECIALIZED PER, PERHAPS THERE IS A STRAND OF ENGINEERING OR THINGS THAT WE'RE BUILDING TOGETHER. IT'S NO DIFFERENT, UM, HOW WE CAME TOGETHER FOR THE EMS AND FIRE PIECE, AND, AND THEN WHERE DO WE LOCATE THAT AND HOW DO WE DO THAT? SO IT'S A, IT'S A FANTASTIC LOCATION THAT LENDS ITSELF TO FUTURE COLLABORATION AND CONSOLIDATION OF SERVICES AND OPPORTUNITIES FOR KIDS ACROSS THOSE DISTRICTS. OUTSIDE OF THE FIVE THAT WE SERVE. I KNOW THAT WE'VE ALSO LOOKED AT ALTERNATIVE PROGRAMMING, UM, EVEN LARGER FOOTPRINT, YOU KNOW, OTHER OUTLYING AREA DISTRICTS WHO JUST DON'T HAVE ACCESS TO SOME THINGS. SO SOMETIMES WE'RE THE COUNTY SEAT IN WEST BEND, SO SOMETIMES MAYBE AS THE LARGEST IN SIZE, MAYBE WE START SOMETHING AND THEN THEY HAVE SEATS IN ROOM AND WE COLLABORATE THAT WAY. OR WE'RE ALL DOING A PROGRAM, AS I SAID, THE 18 TO 21-YEAR-OLD PROGRAMMING. UM, WE'RE ALL DOING THAT. UM, AND WE WANT THOSE TO BE AUTHENTIC COMMUNITY-BASED EXPERIENCES. HOW MIGHT WE ALL COME TOGETHER AND WORK TOGETHER? SO WE HAVE THOSE OPPORTUNITIES TOO. WE'VE HAD JUST SOME PRELIMINARY DIALOGUE WHAT OUR IDEAS COULD BE TO EXPAND THAT. BUT ONE OF THOSE THINGS IS, YOU KNOW, HOW DO YOU START NOW? AND THEN HOW DO WE, HOW CAN WE, UM, HELP FACILITATE OR FOSTER SOME OF THOSE CONVERSATIONS, UM, WITH THE COMMUNITY AND ALL THOSE PARTNERS WHO MIGHT BE INTERESTED. OKAY. THANK YOU. YEAH. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FROM THE COMMITTEE? JUST ONE, AS WE'RE TALKING ABOUT COLLABORATION, UM, YOU DEFINITELY HAVE AN INTEREST IN THE BUILDING, RIGHT? WE ALL HAVE IT. WE HAVE THE INTEREST OF, OF YES, THE WEST BEND SCHOOL DISTRICT. YEP. BUT WHAT, BUT ALSO THE WHOLE COUNTY AS WE'RE LOOKING AT, UM, MAKING ARRANGEMENTS, IS IT YOUR UNDERSTANDING OR IS IT YOUR INTENTION THAT, THAT WHATEVER ALLOTMENT MIGHT THERE MIGHT BE, WHATEVER LEASE ARRANGEMENT THERE MIGHT BE, WOULD BE AT MARKET RATE OR REDUCED RATE FOR HOW, HOW ARE YOU THINKING? SO WE HAVE THAT, AS YOU'VE THOUGHT ABOUT IT, YOU KNOW, HOW WOULD WE APPROACH THAT IN YOUR MIND? SO THAT'S, SO THERE'S MULTIPLE AVENUES TO DO THAT. SO WE'VE HAD, UM, NO CONVERSATIONS, WHICH THERE'S PROMISES OR RATES OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT. BUT WE'VE TALKED ABOUT DIFFERENT MODELS THAT YOU CAN DO. SO, UM, GENERALLY IF YOU'RE WORKING WITH, IT DEPENDS ON THE AGENCY, RIGHT? YOU'RE GONNA HAVE TO SET YOUR RATE ON WHO THAT PERSON IS. ARE THEY, YOU KNOW, PUBLIC ENTITIES, ARE THEY, YOU KNOW, HOW ARE WE COSERV, UM, THAT KIND OF PIECE. SO THERE'S ALL DIFFERENT, THERE'S ALSO DIFFERENT RATES. UM, SO GENERALLY YOU CAN LOOK AT LEASE. SO IT'S NO DIFFERENT THAN WHEN I WOULD LEASE MY OWN BUILDING FOR USE, RIGHT? BECAUSE WE'RE, WE'RE LOOKING AT DIFFERENT SCHOOLS AND OPPORTUNITIES TOO. SO YOU CAN, AGAIN, IS IT A, A DIFFERENT PROFITING AGENCY, MAYBE ONE OF THOSE OUTSIDE PLAYERS WITH TUITION SEATS AND ALL OF THAT, AND THERE'S A STANDARD MARKET RATE. THERE'S, UM, A, A COSTED RATE WHERE I'M, I'M ABSORBING ALL MY COSTS AND THAT, AND THEN I'M CONTRIBUTING A SMALLER PIECE BECAUSE THERE'S SOMETHING, YOU KNOW, YOU AS THE LANDLORD HAVE TO THINK ABOUT, I GOTTA BANK SOME MONEY FOR FUTURE IMPROVEMENTS, THESE KINDS OF THINGS. OR THERE'S ALSO, HOW CAN SERVICES OFFSET WHERE SAID, YOU KNOW WHAT, YOU PROBABLY DON'T WANNA [00:10:01] NAVIGATE HAVING TO, YOU KNOW, DEAL WITH EVERYONE WHO WANTS AT THE THEATER, THE GYM, ET CETERA. YOU KNOW, HOW COULD WE DO SOME SERVICES IN KIND, HOW COULD WE BRING IN THOSE PIECES? WHO'S DOING YOUR BUILDING CHECKS? WHO'S DOING THAT? I THINK THAT'S ALL FOR YOUR, YOUR GROUP TO TALK ABOUT AND THINK ABOUT. DO YOU WANNA DO THAT IN STAGES? TEARS DEPENDS ON WHO THAT PARTNER IS. THAT'S, THOSE ARE REALLY THE QUESTIONS THAT FACE YOU AS YOU DO THAT. UM, CERTAINLY WE'D HAVE TO THOUGHTFULLY, UM, CONSIDER, 'CAUSE WHERE OUR SAVINGS WOULD BE IS IF THERE WERE ADDITIONAL AGENCIES UNDER THAT UMBRELLA WHERE I CAN PICK UP AND SAVE A SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF TRANSPORTATION FOR SOME OF THOSE SPECIALTY SERVICES THAT ARE, THAT EXIST OUTSIDE OF OUR SCHOOL DISTRICTS RIGHT NOW, THAT THAT'S STILL A COST SAVINGS TO US AS WELL. BUT THAT'S A SEPARATE AGENCY. UM, AND THEY, THEY HAVE GENERALLY DIFFERENT RATES IN THOSE. THERE'S ALSO, UM, PIECES OF AGREEMENTS. SO YOU CAN, WE CAN AS DISTRICTS ENTER INTO, UH, SPECIFIC SHARED AGREEMENTS FOR SERVICES SO THAT THERE'S A, A FISCAL ONE FISCAL AGENT AND ONE DEALING WITH THAT. UM, INSTEAD OF YOU HAVING TO DEAL WITH MULTIPLE PLAYERS, UH, UNDER THAT UMBRELLA. SO IT'S A LOT, YOU KNOW, FOR YOU GUYS TO CONSIDER AS WELL. IT IS. YEP. AND THANK YOU FOR THAT ANSWER. I'M GLAD YOU KNOW, BASICALLY WHAT YOU'RE TELLING US. YEAH. WE WANNA COLLABORATE ON THAT, BUT I CAN ONLY AFFORD SO MUCH JUST AS YOU CAN. GREAT. GOT IT. VERY GOOD. SUPERVISOR, KELLY AND I, I GUESS JUST SPEAKING FOR MYSELF AND THE DIRECTION I'D LIKE TO SEE IT GO, UM, I LIKE THE IDEA OF SORT OF A MANAGEMENT RELATIONSHIP. MM-HMM . WHERE, UH, WHOMEVER BASICALLY, I WOULD ASSUME, LET'S JUST SAY YOU SURE. FOR INSTANCE, UM, WHERE YOU WOULD PARCEL OUT, OKAY, YOU KNOW, WE, WE'LL TAKE CARE OF THE AUDITORIUM, WE'LL TAKE CARE OF ALL THE DIFFERENT COMMUNITY THINGS. I KNOW YOU HAVE CERTAIN RATES AND STUFF LIKE THAT THAT YOU DO. UH, UM, 'CAUSE AS FAR AS I WOULD SEE IT AS THE COUNTY, I WOULD LIKE TO SEE SOMETHING THAT'S KIND OF HANDS OFF AND FAIRLY NEUTRAL AS FAR AS COSTS GO. MM-HMM . SO OFFSET, I MEAN, YOU KNOW, WE'VE, YOU'VE GOT BOILERS, YOU'VE GOT CHILLERS, YOU'VE GOT PARKING LOTS, YOU'VE GOT I'M FAMILIAR . SO THAT'S, THAT'S A, IT'S A, IT'S A BIG FACILITY. IT COSTS A LOT OF MONEY MM-HMM . UH, TO RUN. UM, YOU KNOW, BUT LUCKILY WE DO OWN IT. SO THERE'S CERTAINLY SOME KIND OF ADVANTAGE THERE. UM, I MEAN, I, I WOULD DEFINITELY, IF WE WERE TO USE IT FOR THE COMMUNITY, IT WOULD DEFINITELY BE NICE TO HAVE IT BE A GOOD DEAL FOR THEM. MM-HMM . WHICH MAKES IT A GOOD DEAL FOR US AND OUR QUALITY OF LIFE, WHICH IS SOMETHING THAT'S VERY IMPORTANT TO US. UM, BUT I, I AM, I'M JUST, I JUST DON'T WANT TO THINK THAT PEOPLE THINK, WELL, THE COUNTY OWNS IT SO WE CAN GET IT FOR FREE. UH, NO, THAT'S NOT HOW WE GENERALLY OPERATE . UM, SO THAT'S JUST MY SAME. YEP, YEP. SAME WITH US. UM, AND THAT'S WHAT WE SAID. WE, WE DO HAVE FUNDS WHEN WE CONSOLIDATE SERVICES AND COLLABORATE IN THAT WAY. WE HAVE FUNDING SOURCES AND AVAILABILITY, UM, ON THAT. AND THEN AGAIN, WE HAVE SERVICES AS WELL TO, TO RELIEVE THOSE THINGS. SO IT'S, IT'S REALLY, LIKE YOU SAID, WHAT IS THAT RELATIONSHIP? HOW DO YOU WANNA ENTER INTO THAT? AND WHAT'S YOUR VISION? UM, SO THAT WE CAN FIGURE THAT OUT AND, AND FIGURE OUT, DOES IT MAKE SENSE SHORT TERM? DOES IT MAKE SENSE LONG TERM? UM, IT'LL BE, IT'LL BE REALLY INTERESTING DIALOGUE TO CONTINUE. VERY GOOD. THANK YOU. WE SHOULD LET YOU CONTINUE WITH YOUR PRESENTATION. NO, I JUST, WE REALLY ARE TALKING ABOUT THAT OPPORTUNITY. WE WOULD BE POISED TO START MIGRATING STUDENTS AND KIDS. IT DEPENDS ON, YOU KNOW, WHETHER YOU AS A, A TEAM WOULD LIKE TO ACCELERATE THAT, HOW WE WOULD DO THAT, WHAT THOSE COSTS WOULD BE. UM, AND THEN AGAIN, WE'RE LOOKING AT REALLY WHAT'S OF BENEFIT TO US IS BEING ABLE TO HAVE AT A, A LITTLE BIT LARGER CONVERSATION, UM, CHILDCARE AROUND, YOU KNOW, ELDER CARE. BECAUSE WHAT HAPPENS IN ADDITION TO THE PROGRAMS, UH, I CAN USE THOSE AS TRAINING GROUNDS FOR FUTURE WORKFORCE BECAUSE OUR KIDS ARE GETTING CERTIFIED TO BECOME FUTURE TEACHERS. IF YOU HAVE THOSE CHILDCARE AND PLACING THOSE KIDS RIGHT IN THOSE ROOMS, THEY'RE DOING THEIR HOURS, THEY'RE GAINING THEIR CERTIFICATIONS. IF I'M DOING ANY KIND OF SERVICES, UM, LET'S SAY THAT THERE'S SOME SENIOR OR SOME THINGS THERE, THERE'S FOOD SERVICE CERTIFICATIONS, THERE'S ALL OF THOSE PIECES. THEY CAN WORK IN ALL THESE DIFFERENT AVENUES AND DOMAINS AROUND, UM, THAT CAMPUS AS WELL. SO THERE'S A LOT OF REALLY LARGER SCOPE OF OPPORTUNITY THAT WOULD BE EVEN BIGGER THAN JUST OUR DISTRICT, UM, THAT WE WOULD LOVE TO REALLY FLESH OUT EVEN MORE AND, AND HAVE THAT OPPORTUNITY AS WELL. UM, BECAUSE AGAIN, IF YOU'RE LOOKING AT MULTI-AGE SITES, THE OPPORTUNITIES FOR KIDS, FUTURE WORKFORCE, UM, NAVIGATING ONE OF THE, THE THINGS THAT WE SEE AS DAYCARE OPTIONS AND GROWING THAT IN A COMMUNITY, HAVING SOMETHING ACCESSIBLE FOR OUR FAMILIES, OUR EMPLOYEES. WE'RE SOMETIMES OUR SCHOOL DISTRICTS ARE THE LARGEST EMPLOYERS IN ANY OF THE COMMUNITIES THAT WE HAVE. UM, ALL OF THOSE OPPORTUNITIES, [00:15:01] I THINK, ARE IN FRONT OF US TO EXPLORE SOME MORE. VERY GOOD. ANYTHING ELSE? ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FROM THE COMMITTEE? I'M GOOD. THANK YOU FOR TAKING THE TIME THIS AFTERNOON TO SHARE YOUR THOUGHTS AND TO, TO HELP US REALIZE, YOU KNOW, AGAIN, WHAT WE KNOW, THERE'S A LOT OF STUFF THAT COULD HAPPEN OUT THERE. THANKS FOR PAINTING A CLEAR PICTURE OF SOME OF THOSE POSSIBILITIES. YEAH. AND, AND I THINK FOR YOU, AS YOU SAID, YOU JUST NEED TO DETERMINE WHEN YOU'RE LOOKING AT THOSE DIFFERENT PARTNERS, YOU KNOW, WHAT YOU WANT TO SET AS GOALS AROUND RECOUPING YOUR COSTS, UM, IN THAT, AND WHAT DOES THAT LOOK LIKE SO THAT WE CAN MAYBE TAKE A NEXT STEP ON SOME OF THOSE SMALLER PROGRAMS. UM, BECAUSE AGAIN, WE COULD, WE COULD MIGRATE AND WE COULD START, UM, FILLING THOSE, BUILDING THOSE, UM, SOONER RATHER THAN LATER WHILE WE KIND OF TAKE A STEP AND CONTRIBUTE TO A LARGER VISION FOR THE CAMPUS TOO. SO WE'D APPRECIATE THAT. SO WHEN YOU SAY SOONER RATHER THAN LATER, I'M ASSUMING YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT THE BEGINNING OF THE, UM, 25, 26 SCHOOL YEAR. YOU, YOU CAN DO THAT AS WELL. AGAIN, I HAVE STUDENTS I'M SERVING NOW, IF YOU WANT US TO START LOOKING AT A FOOTPRINT, LOOKING AT SOME OPPORTUNITIES, UM, IN A SHORTER TERM, WE COULD START TAKING SOME OF THOSE SEED PROGRAMS AND, AND PUTTING THEM THERE. THAT REALLY IS DEPENDENT ON, LIKE YOU SAID, THINGS THAT YOU NEED TO DETERMINE AS A, A GROUP, UM, SO THAT WE CAN WORK THROUGH AND THINK, IS THAT A VIABLE OPTION FOR RIGHT NOW? SHOULD WE BE LOOKING AT THE 25, 26? WHAT, WHAT SHOULD WE LOOK AT LONG TERM SUPERVISOR? CHADRON, THANK YOU AGAIN. UM, WELL, THAT LEADS ME TO A QUESTION FOR, AS THE ACCOUNTING EXECUTIVE, DO YOU KNOW WHERE WE'RE AT WITH ALL THE OTHER STUFF WE HAVE IN THE WORKS ON THAT BUILDING? YEAH, ABSOLUTELY. SO THIS IS ABSOLUTELY THE MOST IMPORTANT ONE, AND THANK YOU SUPERINTENDENT WIMMER FOR BEING HERE. AND, UM, I'D BE REMISS IF I DIDN'T THINK, UH, SCHOOL OR PRESIDENT WEIGERT, WHO MM-HMM . WAS IN THE INITIAL MEETING AND REALLY HELPED FACILITATE THIS DISCUSSION. UM, BUT AS THE SUPERINTENDENT, UH, KIND OF ILLUMINATED IN HER CONVERSATION, UH, FOR US, IT REALLY BOILS DOWN TO HOW DO WE DO THIS IN A WAY THAT, SIMILAR TO WHAT UW HAD, UH, WHERE WE'RE VERY MUCH HANDS OFF, LIKE, WE WILL, WE'LL MANAGE THE FACILITY. WE CERTAINLY MANAGE THE CAMPUS, BUT, UH, WE WANT THEM TO DO WHAT THEY DO BEST IN OPERATING THAT BUILDING AND, AND HAVING A PRESENCE IN BUILDING THAT COMMUNITY THAT I'VE TALKED ABOUT IN THE PAST. UM, SO WE HAVE, WE'RE REALLY IN THE STAGE OF TRYING TO SAY, ARE THERE TWO OR THREE OR FOUR, UM, ORGANIZATIONS THAT WE CAN PARTNER WITH TO KIND OF GET US TO THAT FIRST LEVEL? I'VE, I'VE SHARED WITH YOU BEFORE, UM, KIND OF OUR OPERATIONAL, KEEP THE LIGHTS ON TOILETS, FLUSHING, FAUCETS RUNNING IS ABOUT A HALF A MILLION DOLLARS. UM, THAT'S OBVIOUSLY TOO MUCH FOR ONE PROGRAM, UH, THAT THAT WAS STARTED WITH. UM, BUT BY ABOUT $7, SO WE'VE GOTTA COME UP WITH, RIGHT? YEAH. THAT'S WHY DO YOU MISS THIS? SO LIKE, NOT IT, OKAY. SO, UM, THAT'S WHY IT'S IMPORTANT THAT IT'S NOT JUST WEST BEND SCHOOL DISTRICT, RIGHT? IT'S ALSO ALL THE OTHER DISTRICTS, THE POSSIBILITY OF, FOR EXAMPLE, CSAW, WHICH IS EVEN BIGGER THAN JUST WASHINGTON COUNTY. IF WE CAN BEGIN TO PUT THOSE PARTS TOGETHER, UH, TO BE ABLE TO GET TO ENOUGH OF A, A, A NUT, IF YOU WILL MM-HMM . TO TACKLE THAT HALF A MILLION NOW, YOU CAN REALLY START TO OPEN IT UP, WHETHER IT'S CHILDCARE, SENIOR CENTERS, COUNTY FUNCTIONS, POTENTIALLY ALL STARTING TO CONTRIBUTE. AS I SAID, UH, WHEN WE MET WITH CITY COUNCIL, THE GOAL HERE IS NOT TO MAKE A BUCK. THE GOAL IS TO HAVE A BREAKEVEN VENTURE THAT CREATES A COMMUNITY SPACE FOR ALL THESE DIFFERENT GROUPS. SO, UM, THIS WAS ALL PRELIMINARY TO THE POINT OF CAN WE EVEN GET ENOUGH INTEREST MM-HMM . TO GO TO THE NEXT STEP. IT, I, I THINK WE'RE THERE. I THINK IT WAS AN IMPORTANT PART OF WHY WE WANTED TO HAVE A SUPERINTENDENT HERE TO, TO COMMUNICATE THAT TO YOU RATHER THAN JUST HEARING ME BLATHER ON ABOUT IT. UM, BUT THEN ALSO WE, UM, WHAT ARE THE NEXT STEPS? SO WE'VE, WE'VE SHARED A, A KIND OF A LETTER INTENT OF INTENT, UM, PRO PROCESS THAT WE WANT TO USE, REALLY JUST, OKAY, WE'VE TALKED ABOUT IT. YOU'VE HEARD A PRESENTATION ON IT, NOW LET'S GET SOMETHING DOWN ON PAPER. WHO ELSE CAN WE GET DOWN? IS IT A CIS A, IS IT OTHER SCHOOL DISTRICTS SAYING, OKAY, YEP, WE'VE GOT 4,000 SQUARE FEET HERE, UH MM-HMM THIS OTHER ENTITY WANTS TO USE 10,000. COLLECTIVELY, HOW MUCH DOES THAT PRODUCE IN DOLLARS AND CENTS? CAN WE GET TO THE $500,000 NUMBER? UH, IF NOT, HOW FAR AWAY ARE WE? AND THEN IS IT, IS IT WORTH KIND OF TAKING THAT NEXT STEP? AS I'VE SHARED, UH, YOU'VE HEARD SOME TODAY ABOUT ALL THE DIFFERENT DISTRICTS, THE CSA I'VE SHARED WITH YOU BEFORE ABOUT THE CHARTER SCHOOL THAT'S INTERESTED, CONTINUES TO BE INTERESTED. UM, THE, THE LOCAL YMCA HAS BEEN INTERESTED. THERE'S OTHER NONPROFITS. SO I THINK FOR US, IT'S, LET'S TAKE INVENTORY OF ALL OF THAT AND THEN COME BACK TO YOU WITH, HERE'S THE LIST. HERE'S WHAT WE THINK WE CAN GET TO. NOW. IS IT WORTH JUMPING IN THE POOL OR NOT? AND, AND WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO MAKE SOME DECISIONS IN RELATIVELY SHORT ORDER. I THINK ONCE WE GET THAT LETTER OF INTEREST IN THE HANDS OF ALL THE PARTIES AND GET THAT INFORMATION BACK, UM, WE'LL HAVE ENOUGH INFORMATION TO COME TO YOU AND SAY, WE CAN, WE THINK WE CAN GET THERE, OR WE CAN'T. AND I THINK WE HAVE TO BE REAL HONEST ABOUT THAT REAL FAST, BECAUSE QUITE FRANKLY, UM, IF [00:20:01] WE GET TO, YOU KNOW, JULY AND WE DON'T HAVE, UH, WHAT WE NEED, BOTH THE SCHOOL DISTRICT AND CSA CAN'T MAKE DECISIONS, THE CHARTER SCHOOL CAN'T MAKE DECISIONS, AND IT'S ALL GONNA FALL APART REAL QUICK. AND QUITE FRANKLY, WE PROBABLY END UP IN A POSITION WHERE WE'RE TALKING ABOUT, UH, DOING SOMETHING LIKE WAUKESHA COUNTY'S DOING AND JUST PUTTING THE PROPERTY BACK ON THE TAX ROLL. SO 2025 IS GOING TO BE THE YEAR WHERE EITHER WE CAN BE SUPER INNOVATIVE AND WE CAN DO STUFF THAT MOST OF THE REST OF THE STATE ISN'T, HASN'T BEEN ABLE TO GET TO, OR, YOU KNOW WHAT, THIS IS JUST TOO MUCH AND, AND IT CAN'T HAPPEN FAST ENOUGH. OR NOW'S NOT THE RIGHT TIME AND WE NEED TO MOVE IN A DIFFERENT DIRECTION. SO I THINK IT'S VERY POSITIVE THAT IN REALLY SIX SHORT MONTHS, WE'VE GOT ENOUGH PIECES TO BE ABLE TO SAY, ALRIGHT, CAN WE MAKE THIS INTO A REAL THING OR NOT? AND HOPEFULLY JUST HAVING THIS CONVERSATION IN FRONT OF YOU IS ENOUGH TO KNOW MAYBE . YEAH. AND ONE OF THE PIECES WHEN, UM, COUNTY EXECUTIVE IS TALKING ABOUT KIND OF THAT LETTER OF INTEREST, WE WOULD RECONVENE OUR SUPERINTENDENT TEAM TO KIND OF GO THROUGH THOSE TENETS. YOU PROBABLY SAW SOME OF OUR PRELIMINARY AND WHAT WE WERE THINKING. NOW WE'VE GOT SOME METRICS TO HIT, SOME PIECES TO DELIVER, SO WE CAN RECONVENE QUICKLY AND TALK ABOUT THAT PIECE OF IT AND WHAT THAT OPPORTUNITY IS. I'LL CERTAINLY SHARE THAT I SPOKE TONIGHT. UM, YOU KNOW, JUST KIND OF MORE IDEALLY AROUND, UM, THE COLLABORATIVE ASPECT AND THEN, UM, MORE SUCCINCTLY ABOUT OUR, OUR KIND OF WEST BEND SLICE. BUT I'LL BRING THAT BACK. WE CONVENE, UH, REGULARLY AND JUST TALK ABOUT THIS IS THAT PROCESS. IF THERE'S ANYTHING ELSE IN THAT PROCESS THAT YOU'D LIKE TO SEE FROM THAT TEAM AS YOU FLESH THAT OUT, WE'RE, WE'RE HAPPY TO DELIVER THAT. THEN AGAIN, AS A PACKAGE TOO, FOR CONSIDERATION AS YOU KIND OF WEIGH ALL THOSE ENTITIES. SO WE'RE, WE'RE VERY HAPPY, WE'RE HAVE A REALLY GOOD ONGOING COMMUNICATION, UM, WITH, WITH YOUR ORGANIZATION ACROSS ORGANIZATIONS. UH, I THINK THAT HELPS US FLESH THAT OUT. SO IF THERE'S SOMETHING IN REAL TIME, HEY, I'M WONDERING ABOUT THIS, OR CAN YOU INCLUDE THIS? I THINK YOU JUST NEED TO EXPRESS THAT TO YOUR COUNTY EXECUTIVE SO THAT WE CAN FORMALIZE THAT AS PART OF THE PLAN SUPERVISOR, KELLY, AND I GUESS JOSH, YOU HEARD WHAT I, HOW I FEEL ABOUT IT. UM, A SINGLE POINT MANAGEMENT SYSTEM THAT IS BASICALLY NOT THE COUNTY. UM, AND AS WELL AS COST NEUTRALITY, UH, AS CLOSE TO IT. I MEAN, I THINK YOU HAVE TO BE REASONABLE ABOUT SOMETHING LIKE THIS, ESPECIALLY IN THE STARTUP, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT GROUPS THAT CERTAINLY IMPROVE OUR QUALITY OF LIFE, BUT DON'T EXACTLY MAKE A LOT OF MONEY , YOU KNOW? RIGHT. SO I'M NOT TRYING TO, YOU KNOW, BEAT DOWN THE LITTLE SISTERS OF THE POOR HERE. OKAY. YOU KNOW, WE'RE JUST TRYING TO MAKE SURE THAT EVERYTHING WE DO IN COUNTY GOVERNMENT HAS ALWAYS BEEN VERY COST, COST CONSCIOUS. HOW MUCH BANG DO WE GET FOR THE BUCK? AND THAT'S PRETTY MUCH WHAT WE WANT TO DO HERE, BUT WE'RE NOT AFRAID TO SPEND A LITTLE BIT TO EN ENHANCE THE QUALITY OF LIFE. SO JUST WANNA MAKE SURE I GET THAT , AND, AND TO BE CLEAR, FROM MY PERSPECTIVE, AND IF THIS IS GOING DOWN THE WRONG PATH FROM A PUBLIC POLICY PERSPECTIVE, PLEASE LET ME KNOW. BUT MY THOUGHT PROCESS HERE IS, AGAIN, ROUGHLY HALF A MILLION IN OPERATIONAL, PROBABLY ALMOST THAT IN CAPITAL ON AN ANNUAL BASIS, MAYBE A LITTLE LESS, THREE OR 400,000 A YEAR. AND THEN AFTER THAT, IT, IT'S REALLY KINDA LONGER TERM, UH, CAPITAL EXPENSES. SO WHAT I WAS THINKING IS, IF IN THE FIRST COUPLE OF YEARS, MAYBE THREE AT THE MOST, WE CAN BUILD UP TO THAT HALF A MILLION I, THAT, THAT'S PROBABLY REALISTIC TO THINK 2026, WE'RE GONNA FLIP A SWITCH AND $500,000 IS COMING IN THE DOOR, PROBABLY WON'T HAPPEN. UM, BUT IF WE CAN BUILD TO IT, THAT WAS, THAT WAS MY HOPE. MEANING WE'LL HAVE TO SUBSIDIZE IT FOR A FEW YEARS AND THEN, UM, YOU KNOW, EVENTUALLY WE, WE CAN CRACK THE NUT OF THAT INITIAL 500 AND THEN START EATING AWAY, IF YOU WILL, AT THE NEXT CHUNK. UM, YOU KNOW, ALL, YOU GOTTA REPLACE THE WATER HEATERS AND YOU GOTTA REPLACE THE ROOFTOP UNITS AND THAT KIND OF THING. AND THEN AFTER THAT, I THINK IT'S JUST A MATTER OF STARTING TO, YOU KNOW, BUILD A LITTLE BIT OF A FUND. SO NONE OF US ARE ON THE HOOK WHEN YOU'VE GOT TO REPLACE THE ROOF, WHICH IS A BIG ONE. UH, THOSE TYPES OF THINGS. SO, UM, THAT'S KIND OF THE PATH I'M GOING DOWN, THE UNDERSTANDING THAT I HAVE FROM OUR, OUR MEETING WITH THE CITY COUNCIL. IF THAT'S NOT THE PATH THAT THE EXECUTIVE COMMITTEE WANTS, THEN, THEN I NEED TO HEAR THAT, UM, WHETHER IT'S TODAY OR WHETHER IT'S IN THE FUTURE. UM, BUT IT'S, IT'S AN INCREMENTAL, AN EVOLUTIONARY PROCESS, NOT A REVOLUTIONARY PROCESS THAT I'M THINKING ABOUT. I WOULD AGREE. SUPERVISOR CHATTER. TO ADD ON TO THAT THEN, I KNOW YOU HAD SAID OTHER SCHOOL, AND I BELIEVE YOU MENTIONED AS WELL, OTHER SCHOOLS THAT SHOWED INTEREST IN THIS MM-HMM . HOW LONG WOULD IT TAKE TO GATHER THAT DATA THAT YOU NEED TO KNOW WHAT SORT OF INTEREST WE HAVE AND HOW MUCH OF THAT BUILDING WILL BE UTILIZED? WELL, I, I CAN LET THE SUPERINTENDENT SPEAK TO THE DISTRICTS, UM, THE, ALL THE GROUPS. I THINK WE WOULD PROBABLY WANT TO HAVE THAT INFORMATION IN THE NEXT THREE TO FOUR MONTHS [00:25:01] SO THAT BY THE TIME WE'RE HITTING, YOU KNOW, MIDDLE OF THE SECOND QUARTER, UM, BACK END OF THE SECOND QUARTER, FOR SURE, WE'RE IN DECISION MAKING MODE. YEP. SO THERE'D BE LIKE A LETTER OF INTENT, WHICH IS A LITTLE BIT INFORMAL, NOT REAL STRUCTURED ENOUGH TO SAY, YOU KNOW, WE'RE GETTING ENGAGED. UM, AND THEN THE NEXT STEP IS, OKAY, IT'S NOT JUST A LETTER OF INTENT, NOW IT'S, WE'RE FORMULATING LEASES AND STARTING TO PUT TOGETHER. 'CAUSE ONE THING TO KEEP IN MIND, ALL THOSE DIFFERENT ENTITIES I'VE TALKED ABOUT, THEY ALL HAVE UNIQUE NEEDS, BUT THE LAST THING WE NEED IS FOR ALL OF THEM TO SAY, WE ALL REALLY LIKE THAT OFFICE SPACE IN THE FRONT. WELL, I'M SORRY, ONLY ONE OF YOU CAN GO THERE. UM, WHERE'S THE OTHER YEAH, OF COURSE. UH, WHERE'S THE OTHER, WHERE'S THE OTHER GROUPS GONNA GO? SO I WOULD SAY HALF OF THIS IS US JUST TRYING TO FIGURE OUT HOW DO ALL THE PUZZLE PIECES FIT TOGETHER IN A 200,000 SQUARE FOOT FACILITY. AND THEN OF COURSE, YOU'RE GONNA HAVE THE GROUPS THAT ALREADY HAVE HISTORICALLY BEEN USING THE THEATER AND THE GYM SPACE AND SO FORTH. UH, AND THEN HOW DO THEY SLOT IN AS WELL? 'CAUSE YOU'RE PROBABLY NOT EVEN GONNA MAKE A FEW THOUSAND DOLLARS OFF OF GROUPS LIKE THAT. THIS IS REALLY ABOUT JUST KIND OF RE RECOUP SOME OF THE OPERATIONAL MANAGEMENT COSTS IN THAT REGARD. SO THAT WOULD BE, I WOULD SAY THE QUARTER ONE IS US JUST TRYING TO FIGURE OUT CAN WE GET EVERYBODY TO PLAY NICE IN THE SANDBOX? AND THEN, OKAY, NOW WHAT DOES IT TAKE TO ACTUALLY EXECUTE? BECAUSE I WILL ASSUME EVERY PIECE THAT WE SAY, YEP, THIS FITS, THAT FITS UPSTAIRS, THIS ONE GOES DOWN THE HALLWAY. I CAN'T IMAGINE THEY'RE GONNA BE ABLE TO WALK IN AND JUST FLIP THE LIGHTS ON AND GO, OKAY, LET'S GO. THERE'S PROBABLY GONNA BE SOME MODIFICATIONS THAT NEED TO HAPPEN. FOR EXAMPLE, CHILDCARE, WE'RE GONNA NEED TO FIREWALL IT OFF. WHAT DOES THAT EVEN MEAN? I DON'T KNOW. SO IT'S GONNA BE A PROCESS. UM, HOPEFULLY WE GET TO THE END OF THE SECOND QUARTER, AND YOU CAN SAY, THIS ONE WE CAN DO WITHIN MONTHS, THE NEXT ONE, THE START OF THE SCHOOL YEAR, THE NEXT PIECE, YEAH, THAT'S PROBABLY AN 18 MONTH PROJECT OR A 12 MONTH PROJECT. IT'S ITS OWN KIND OF MASTER PLAN. AND THEN NOW HOW DOES THE COUNTY FIT INTO THIS? DO WE NEED TO TALK ABOUT WIC GOING OUT THERE? DO WE NEED TO TALK ABOUT A DRC GOING OUT THERE? MAYBE THEY DON'T MAKE SENSE AT ALL. UM, THOSE THINGS I WOULD SAY WOULD PROBABLY COME IN THE BACK HALF OF THE YEAR. AND THEN THEY INTEGRATE INTO YOUR MASTER PLAN MUCH LONGER TERM. WELL, THAT'S KIND OF WHERE I WAS GOING WITH THAT WOULD OBVIOUSLY THIS COMMITTEE STARTING UP. YEP. UH, AT WHAT DEPTH DO WE GET INTO THAT BUILDING, BECAUSE THAT IS PART OF THE OVERALL PLANNING TOO, RIGHT? SO THANK YOU FOR US, FOR OUR PERSPECTIVE AS WELL AS THAT PLANNING. WHEN YOU'RE LOOKING, YOU MENTIONED A THREE TO FOUR MONTH. WHAT I'LL DO IS I, I LEAVE THIS MEETING TODAY AND I SAY WE HAVE A GREEN GREEN LIGHT TO TAKE A NEXT STEP. SO THEN OUR TEAM OF SUPERINTENDENTS WILL COLLABORATE. WE'LL ALSO, WE WORK ACROSS AGENCIES. UM, SO THE CSAS THAT HE MENTIONED, SOUNDS LIKE YOU'RE WELL VERSED IN THAT THEY'RE REGIONAL SERVICE CENTERS. WE ALREADY WORK WITH THOSE AGENCIES. WE WORK WITH SOME OF THE TUITION PLACEMENT AGENCIES THAT ARE TOURING THAT CAMPUS AS WELL. SO AS YOU KIND OF LOOK AT, SO I'M GONNA TAKE AWAY, COMMUNICATE WITH OUR FELLOW SUPERINTENDENTS AND SAY, WE HAVE A GREEN LIGHT FOR OUR NEXT STEP. LET'S PLAN SOME MEETINGS. THESE ARE OUR TARGETS WITH THIS LETTER OF INTEREST. HERE'S THIS AS WELL AS THAT SHORT AND LONG TERM TIMELINE THAT I'M HEARING. SO WE CAN DELIVER THAT ABSOLUTELY WITHIN THAT TIMEFRAME. AND THEN AS YOU LOOK AT THOSE NEXT PLAYERS WHO HAVE SERIOUS INTERESTS, THEN WE CAN COLLABORATE. MANY OF THEM ARE ALREADY OUR COLLABORATIVE PARTNERS. THERE MIGHT BE SOME ADDITIONAL AGENCIES. AND THEN, UM, AS, AS YOU'VE TALKED ABOUT THEN, THEN HOW DO YOU BRING THOSE PARTIES TOGETHER? BECAUSE TO YOUR POINT, WHOEVER IS GONNA HAVE THAT MANAGEMENT ROLE OR DO THOSE PIECES, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE GONNA BE POSITIONED DIFFERENTLY IN THE BUILDING. THEY'RE, YOU KNOW, YOU, YOU WOULD JUST COME TOGETHER AND WORK, WORK THOSE PIECES OUT. IT'S A, IT'S A VERY ROBUST CAMPUS WITH A LOT OF OPPORTUNITY, UM, AND SPACE THAT CAN BE UTILIZED. SO I, I DON'T FORESEE THAT AS BEING AN ISSUE ACROSS AGENCIES. THANK YOU. ANY OF THE REST OF THE COMMITTEE. UM, SO IN AN ANSWER FOR YOU COUNTY EXECUTIVE, IT'S MY OPINION THAT YOU'RE ON THE RIGHT TRACK WITH WANTING TO PROCEED IN THAT WAY. I THINK ALL OF US WANT THE BEST POSSIBLE USE FOR THAT BUILDING. WE'VE, OVER THE YEARS, INVESTED A LOT. WE AND THE CITY HAVE INVESTED A LOT IN THAT BUILDING. IT IS A, I THINK IT'S A GREAT BUILDING THAT OFFERS A LOT TO THE COMMUNITY. AND I WOULD HATE TO SEE IT JUST GET TORN DOWN FOR MORE APARTMENTS. UM, I THINK IT HAS MORE TO OFFER THAN THAT. THAT BEING SAID, I WOULD ALSO THINK THAT, UM, SOME OF THE COLLABORATIVE ENTITIES MAY FIND YOU. SO YOU'RE RIGHT, NOT EVERYBODY CAN HAVE THE OFFICE, RIGHT. BUT IT MAY BE THAT A COMMON RECEPTIONIST MAY, YOU KNOW, THE COMMON RECEIVING AREA, COMMON USES MAY BENEFIT SEVERAL OF THOSE ORGANIZATIONS SO THAT THEY CAN ALLOCATE THE RESOURCES BETTER IN OTHER WAYS AS WELL. SO I WOULDN'T WANT TO BE IN A POSITION WHERE WE SAY, OH, NOPE, YOU CAN'T DO THAT. THEY ALREADY CALLED FOR THAT PART. THEY GOT DIBS. I THINK WE DEFINITELY WANNA WORK ON IT IN SUCH A WAY THAT IT IS BEST FOR THE ENTIRE COMMUNITY [00:30:01] WITHOUT SACRIFICING ANY INDIVIDUAL ENTITY'S BEST INTERESTS. I MEAN, AT SOME POINT, IF SOMEONE'S INVESTED IN THEIR, AND THEY'VE BUILT SOME THINGS OUT, OBVIOUSLY THOSE ARE GONNA BE OFF LIMITS. BUT UNTIL THOSE DECISIONS ARE REALLY MADE, UM, I WOULDN'T WANNA JUMP THE GUN ON ANY OF THAT. YEAH. AND I'M JUST NOT SURE HOW SUNS AND SPARTANS AND ORIOLES FIT TOGETHER IN ENOUGH SPACE, BUT, WE'LL, I'M SURE THEY CAN DO, JUST DON'T MAKE ME WEAR THOSE COLORS, GUYS. , UM, TWO, TWO POINTS, IF I MAY. AND, AND WE SPENT MOST OF OUR TIME TALKING ABOUT THE BUILDING, WHICH IS IMPORTANT. UM, BUT EVERYTHING THAT WE'VE DISCUSSED, UM, WOULD NOT INCLUDE WHAT'S OUTSIDE THE BUILDING. SO THERE'S A LARGE PARKING LOT AREA, THE OLD SOCCER FIELD, UM, I THINK IT WAS REFERRED TO AT THE MEETING A FEW MONTHS BACK AS THE OLD POTATO FIELD, WHICH IS 20 ACRES OF BEAUTY. UM, ALL OF THAT WOULD STILL BE THINGS THAT CAN BE UTILIZED, POTENTIALLY DEVELOPED. MAYBE THERE'S SOME USES FOR THE SCHOOL THAT HAVE TO BE THOUGHT THROUGH AS WELL. MAYBE SOME OF THEM PIECES OF IT GO BACK ON THE TAX ROLL AND HELP WITH BUILDING, FOR EXAMPLE, AN ENDOWMENT FUND LIKE WE'VE DONE WITH OTHER THINGS TO HELP PAY SOME OF THOSE LONG-TERM EXPENSES. UM, BUT THAT IS ALL IN ADDITION AND SEPARATE, AND I WOULD SAY IS DOWN THE ROAD. THE OTHER THING I WANNA MENTION, I'D BE REMISS IF I DIDN'T, IS, UM, COUNTY ATTORNEY BRAD STERN, UH, HAS WORKED DILIGENTLY ON HELPING GET US TO THIS POINT AND WORK WITH OUTSIDE COUNSEL, UH, ON, ON THE LETTER OF INTENT AND KIND OF SOME OF THE NEXT STEPS TOO. SO HE, I, I GOTTA THANK HIM AND, AND OUR TEAM FOR REALLY GETTING US TO THIS POINT. THIS IS KIND OF ABOVE AND BEYOND WHAT WE WOULD NORMALLY DO WHEN WE WERE JUST OPERATING A, A CAMPUS AND NOT HAVING TO WORRY ABOUT THESE THINGS. SO, UH, THANK YOU, BRAD, SUPERVISOR KELLY. UM, AND JUST KIND OF ONE LITTLE OTHER KIND OF WORD ON THAT IS THE IDEA BEHIND THIS WHOLE PROGRAM IS THAT WE CAN HAVE SOMETHING GOOD FOR THE COMMUNITY. I MEAN, LONG AND THE SHORT OF IT, THAT'S WHAT THIS IS ALL REALLY ABOUT. UM, BUT AS A STEWARD OF THE COMMUNITY, UH, IF IT ISN'T GONNA WORK, IF IT ISN'T GOING TO BE A GOOD SANDBOX FULL OF GREAT KIDS PLAYING TOGETHER NICELY, UM, YOU KNOW, IT, IT, I WOULD CHOOSE TOMBALL IT, GET RID OF IT, WHATEVER. I MEAN, HONESTLY, THAT'S THE LONG AND THE SHORT. I, I WOULD LOVE TO SEE THIS HAPPEN AND BE A BENEFIT TO OUR COMMUNITY. UM, BUT IN THE END, IF IF THAT DOESN'T WORK, I WOULD END IT. I MEAN, AND I DON'T MEAN THAT TO BE A THREAT. IT SOUNDS THREATENING, BUT IT'S NOT INTENDED TO BE. IT'S JUST REALITY. YOU KNOW, THAT THIS IS, WE ARE HERE TO BE THE GOOD STEWARDS OF OUR TAXPAYERS' MONEY AND WE WILL BE THAT. SO BEAR WORDS, THANK YOU. AND, AND I APPRECIATE YOUR COMMENT. AT THE SAME TIME, I WOULD SAY, UM, IT WOULD BE VERY SHORTSIGHTED OF US TO THINK THAT THE COMMUNITY IS JUST SIX MILES AROUND THAT CAMPUS. WE HAVE A LOT OF AREA IN THE COUNTY THAT, UM, SHOULD NOT BE PRECLUDED OR EXCLUDED FROM ACCESS AND, AND BEST POSSIBLE USE OF THAT AS WELL, EVEN THOUGH IT MAY NOT BE AS CONVENIENT. AGREED. THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR COMING IN. THANKS. THANKS FOR THE DISCUSSION. WE SURELY APPRECIATE IT. YEAH. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MS. WARREN. THANK YOU. THANKS. MOVING ON TO ITEM THREE B, GUIDANCE ON JOINT REVIEW, BOARD PARTICIPATION. AND FOR THAT, I BELIEVE, UH, IS IT COUNTY EXECUTIVE OR VERY GOOD. I CAN INTRODUCE IT AND THEN I'LL TURN IT OVER TO AARON, IF THAT'S ALRIGHT WITH YOU, MR. THAT'S FINE. THANK YOU. WELL, THANK YOU. SO, UM, THIS IS THE SECOND TIME I'VE BELIEVE YOU'VE SEEN AN ITEM SIMILAR TO THIS ON YOUR AGENDA. UM, I, I JUST WANNA SHARE WITH YOU, AND I WASN'T AT THE LAST MEETING WHERE YOU DISCUSSED [b. Guidance on Joint Review Board Participation] JOINT REVIEW BOARDS, UM, BUT I THINK IT IS AN IMPORTANT COMPONENT THAT COME BEFORE YOU AS THE LEGISLATIVE BODY. UH, I CERTAINLY HAVE OPINIONS, UH, IN THE EXECUTIVE BRANCH, UH, ABOUT JOINT JOINT REVIEW BOARDS AND TIF DISTRICTS. UH, QUITE STRONG OPINIONS, AS YOU MIGHT IMAGINE. UM, BUT, AND, AND I KNOW YOU DO AS WELL, UM, THERE HAS BEEN, UH, SEVERAL IN THE LAST COUPLE OF YEARS THAT HAVE BEEN, UM, MORE COMPLICATED AND MORE CONTROVERSIAL THAN HISTORICALLY, I WOULD SAY. UM, AND I'VE TAKEN SOME STRONG STANCES ON THOSE. I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT, UH, THAT AARON DAHL, WHO'S NOW SITTING ON JOINT REVIEW BOARDS, HAVE THE PERSPECTIVE, NOT JUST OF ME ACROSS THE HALLWAY, UH, IN HIS OFFICE AND IN OUR SUITE, UH, BUT ALSO FROM YOU AS THE LEGISLATIVE BODY EACH AND EVERY TIME. THE BEST EXAMPLE OF THAT WAS THE, UH, IN MY, MY OPINION, UH, WAS THE MOST RECENT HARTFORD TIFF DISTRICT. UM, I PRETTY VOCALLY OBJECTED TO A ADDING THE, UH, AMBULANCE DRIVEWAY OR THE FIRE FIRE DRIVEWAY. AND IT SOUNDED LIKE THE COMMITTEE WAS MORE OPEN TO THAT. UM, AS I SHARED WITH OTHER MUNICIPALITIES WHO'VE SINCE MADE SOME SUBSEQUENT DECISIONS. UM, I'M NOT THE KING. I'M THE COUNTY EXECUTIVE. SO I THINK YOU'RE, I THINK THAT'S WHY WE'RE HERE. AND I WANT YOU TO KNOW THAT, UM, I THINK IT'S REALLY IMPORTANT FOR ALL THE MUNICIPALITIES TO BE AWARE OF THAT. I [00:35:01] DON'T BELIEVE THEY BELIEVE THAT. UM, SO I, I THINK MOVING FORWARD, IF YOU, IF WE WILL ENTERTAIN ALL OF THESE, I COULD WALK YOU THROUGH ALL THE NUTS AND BOLTS AND WEEDS AND PROBABLY DRIVE YOU NUTS ABOUT, UH, JOINT REVIEW BOARDS AND TIF DISTRICTS. UM, BUT I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT FOR YOU TO AUTONOMOUSLY SEPARATE FROM ME, UM, HAVE THIS DISCUSSION AND, AND OP OPINE AND AT LEAST WEIGH IN TO INFORM AARON'S, UH, VOTES AND DECISIONS THAT ARE MADE ON THOSE JOINT REVIEW BOARDS. UH, I ESPECIALLY FEEL STRONGLY ABOUT THAT BECAUSE TYPICALLY SPEAKING, JOINT REVIEW BOARDS ARE MADE UP OF, UH, REPRESENTATIVES OF EACH ORGANIZATION ON YOUR TAX BILL, BUT NOT BY PEOPLE WHO ARE ELECTED TO REPRESENT THEM. SO EVEN MORE OF A REASON, IN MY OPINION, THAT WE AS ELECTED REP REPRESENTATIVES NEED TO GIVE A LITTLE BIT OF DIRECTION TO ADMINISTRATION TO SAY, THIS IS HOW WE FEEL ABOUT ITEM X, Y, Z. AND THERE'S, YOU'LL SEE IT AGAIN TODAY. THERE'S SOME PRETTY COMPLICATED TIFFS COMING IN FRONT OF YOU. UH, AND, YOU KNOW, TAXPAYERS FROM RIPPING TO THE TOWN OF JACKSON, UH, AND UP TO FOND DULAC AND EVERYWHERE IN BETWEEN ARE GONNA BE PAYING FOR SOME OF THESE THINGS IN THE LONG TERM. SO, OR AT LEAST THEIR TAX BILLS COULD BE ARTIFICIALLY HIGHER, UH, IF, IF WE DON'T DO OUR DUE DILIGENCE. SO PLEASE TAKE A, TAKE A LOOK AND TAKE THIS VERY SERIOUSLY BECAUSE I, IT'S IMPORTANT IN INFORMING WHAT THAT JOINT REVIEW BOARD DOES. AND I THINK HAVING BOTH THE LEGISLATIVE AND THE EXECUTIVE, UM, PERSPECTIVE FOR AARON IS CRI CRITICALLY IMPORTANT. SO WITH THAT, I'LL TURN IT OVER, UH, BACK TO YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN, AND, AND OVER TO AARON. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. UM, AS WE CONSIDER THESE THIS EVENING, UM, WITHOUT GOING OFF TOPIC, I WANTED TO, UH, IF YOU RECALL HOW THE LAST INSTANCE WENT. WE, WE KIND OF GAVE SOME INFORMATION WITH REGARD TO, UH, UH, TAX INCREMENT DISTRICT HERE IN WEST BEND. WHAT WAS THE RESULT OF THAT MEETING? SURE. UH, WITH THAT ONE, UM, I TOOK THE INPUT THAT WAS, UH, SPECIFICALLY RELATED TO AMENDING THE PROJECT PLAN, UM, TO DO A PROJECT BASICALLY OUTSIDE OF THE, THE BOUNDARY OF THE DISTRICT. UM, I TOOK THE INFORMATION THAT, THAT YOU PROVIDED, UH, IN CONJUNCTION WITH, UH, THE DISCUSSIONS WITH THE COUNTY EXEC. AND WE, AT THAT MEETING, UM, WE WERE A NO VOTE, SO WE WERE THE ONLY NO VOTE. IT, IT DID END UP PASSING. UM, BUT WE WERE ON RECORD AS A NO. OKAY. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. MR. CHAIRMAN, CAN I JUST INTERRUPT YOU ONE MORE TIME? I'M SORRY. UM, BUT I DID WANT TO MAKE YOU AWARE BECAUSE I DON'T, I, I JUST CHECKED WITH A COUPLE OF THE AUDIENCE MEMBERS. UM, THERE ARE A FEW, UH, MEMBERS OF THE AUDIENCE WHO LIVE IN THE TOWN OF WEST BEND, WHICH IS ACROSS THE STREET FROM THIS, UM, THIS TIF DISTRICT. UM, JUST SO YOU'RE AWARE OF THAT, CONSTITUENTS O OF OURS, UH, NOT CONSTITUENTS OF THE CITY. UM, SO JUST SO YOU'RE AWARE, OBVIOUSLY YOU CAN DO WHAT YOU WISH WITH THAT, BUT I WANTED YOU TO KNOW THAT THAT WAS, THAT WAS HAPPENING VERY WELL. THANK YOU. UM, WE'LL TURN IT BACK TO AARON DOL FOR HIS PRESENTATION. GREAT. THANKS JOSH. UM, AND, AND THANKS EVERYONE. GOOD EVENING. UM, SO AS YOU GATHER FROM THE PACKET, THERE ARE, UH, TWO MORE TAX INCREMENTAL DEC TAX INCREMENTAL DISTRICTS, UM, BEING PROPOSED. UM, WE'RE SET TO VOTE LATER THIS MONTH, UM, UH, ON THE APPROVAL OF THOSE DISTRICTS OR NOT. UM, SO THE PACKET HAS A LOT OF INFORMATION. THE, THE COMPLETE PROJECT PLANS ARE IN THERE. SO I, I DON'T PLAN ON GOING THROUGH A TON OF DETAIL. UM, WE APPRECIATE THAT . SURE, SURE. UM, YOU KNOW, I, I DID WANT TO JUST GENERALLY COMMENT ON, YOU KNOW, HISTORICALLY OUR GENERAL PERSPECTIVE ON TIFF IS IT IS ONE OF THE ONLY ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT TOOLS MUNICIPALITIES HAVE. UM, WE, WE TRY NOT TO STAND IN THE WAY OF DEVELOPMENT AS LONG AS TIFF'S BEING USED REASONABLY. UM, AS JOSH ALLUDED TO, WE TYPICALLY SUPPORT CLOSING THOSE DISTRICTS AS EARLY AS REASONABLY POSSIBLE. AND I THINK THAT IS THE POINT THAT SOMETIMES PUTS US IN CONFLICT WITH, WITH SOME OF THESE PROJECT PLANS. UM, AND SO I'LL SORT OF FRAME THAT DISCUSSION TODAY, UH, FROM THAT, FROM THAT PERSPECTIVE. UM, SO TO START WITH WEST BEND, UH, THE TID NUMBER 17. UM, SO THE, THE MAP IS IN THE PACKET, BUT IT'S BASICALLY 105 ACRES ON THE FAR NORTHWEST SIDE OF THE CITY, SORT OF BETWEEN 18TH AVENUE AND HIGHWAY 45. UM, IT'S CALLING FOR THE, THE START. THE EARLY PHASES OF THE PLAN ARE 95 RESIDENTIAL UNITS, UM, MORE RESIDENTIAL AND SOME INDUSTRIAL AND COMMERCIAL SPACE. LATER IN THE PLAN, UM, PLAN IS CALLING FOR EXPENDITURES OF $18 MILLION. UM, THAT'S EXPECTED TO GENERATE $69 MILLION OF NEW PROPERTY VALUE. UM, IT'S ALSO ANTICIPATED THAT IT'LL TAKE 20 YEARS FOR THE TAXES ON THAT NEW PROPERTY VALUE TO PAY OFF THE COSTS OF, OF THE, THE DEVELOPMENT, [00:40:01] UM, THE EXPENSES BEING PROPOSED. UM, THE, THE, THERE ARE TWO, TWO MAJOR ONES, UH, COSTS FOR STREET AND WATER MAIN IMPROVEMENTS ALONG 18TH AVENUE. UM, AND THE, AND THE DEBT USED TO FUND THAT, UM, AS WELL AS SOME DEVELOPER INCENTIVES. UM, I THINK THE PIECE THAT I WANTED TO ASK THE COMMITTEE SPECIFICALLY ABOUT, UM, IS, IS SECTION OF, OF THAT 18TH AVENUE PROJECT. UM, THE PROJECT PLAN IS ASSUMING ABOUT $1.7 MILLION OF COSTS, UH, FOR THAT STRETCH OF 18TH AVENUE WILL OCCUR OUTSIDE OF THE DISTRICT. UM, SO BASICALLY THE, THE PLAN IS SHOWING THAT THE CITY WILL FUND A THIRD OF THAT 1.7 MILLION, AND THE DISTRICT WILL FUND THE REMAINING TWO THIRDS. SO TO GO BACK TO SEPTEMBER, YOU KNOW, THIS, THIS GROUP EXPRESSED SOME CONCERNS ABOUT THOSE EXPENDITURES OUTSIDE OF THAT DISTRICT. THOSE, WE CALL THEM HALF MILE PROJECTS. UM, I USED THAT INFORMATION AT THE TIME AS I, AS I, AS I, I NOTED WE WERE A NO AT THAT MEETING. UM, AT THAT SAME MEETING, UM, I, I COMMENTED AND, AND DISCUSSED, UH, THE POTENTIAL FOR THE CITY TO INCLUDE A COST CHAIR. 'CAUSE, UH, IF YOU REMEMBER BACK TO SEPTEMBER, THE DISTRICT FUNDED THE ENTIRETY OF THAT PROJECT. UM, AT THAT TIME, UH, THE CITY DIDN'T FUND A COST SHARE IN TID 16, BUT THIS PARTICULAR PROJECT PLAN INCLUDES THAT COST SPLIT, RIGHT? SO ONE THIRD FOR THE CITY, TWO THIRDS FOR THE DISTRICT. UM, I, I, I THINK THAT'S A, THAT'S A, A VALUABLE DATA POINT FOR YOU TO HAVE. UM, YOU KNOW, SO I GUESS MY QUESTION IS, ARE WE, ARE WE TOTALLY AGAINST THESE PROJECTS THAT OCCUR OUTSIDE OF THE BORDER, OR CAN WE LIVE WITH THEM, UH, GIVEN THE COST SHARE? UM, THERE'S CERTAINLY ARGUMENTS TO BE MADE ON BOTH SIDES, AND I CAN HELP LAY THOSE OUT IF YOU WANT. BUT, UM, THAT, THAT'S MY QUESTION ON THIS ONE. VERY WELL, THANKS FOR YOUR BACKGROUND INFORMATION SUPERVISOR, KELLY. OKAY. UM, SO I DID READ THROUGH THIS WHOLE PLAN, . YIKES. BLESS YOU, . UH, AND, AND, AND I NEED TO KIND OF QUALIFY IN ORDER TO, UH, ANSWER YOUR QUESTION. SURE. A COUPLE OF THINGS. HISTORICALLY, WE DIDN'T GO WITH THAT INDIANA PROJECT BECAUSE THAT KID WAS LOOKING AT BEING PAID OFF, WHEREAS THEY WERE ADDING EXTRA EXPENSES AFTER THE FACT. UH, IN THIS SITUATION, IT IS A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT. THIS IS PART OF THE ORIGINAL PLAT, SO, UH, IT MAKES MORE SENSE. I'M AGAINST THE PROJECT AS A WHOLE, UH, HOWEVER SHOULD IT PASS. UH, AND WHAT I, I'VE TALKED TO RESIDENTS IN THE AREA WHO ONE OF THEIR BIGGEST CONCERNS IS THAT 18TH AVENUE WOULDN'T BE ABLE TO HANDLE THAT TRAFFIC. AND TO WHICH I AGREE WITH THEM. UM, SO IF YOU DID NOT PUT THIS PART AS PART OF THIS THING AND YOU BUILT IT WITHOUT THAT BEING DONE, IT WOULD BE A VERY, VERY BAD THING FOR THE LOCAL RESIDENTS, NOT IN THIS DISTRICT. UM, SO I HOPE THAT MAKES SENSE. I WAS KIND OF ALL OVER THE PLACE THERE, BUT I, YEAH, I'M AGAINST THE WHOLE DAMN THING THAT'S PROBABLY GONNA PASS THOUGH, MM-HMM . YOU KNOW, THE WAY I LOOK AT IT. UM, BUT FIGHTING THIS PARTICULAR PIECE I THINK WOULD ACTUALLY BE COUNTERPRODUCTIVE. AND I LOOK AT IT AS BEING EXCEPTIONAL TO WHAT WE TALKED ABOUT LAST TIME. 'CAUSE THEY'RE REALLY APPLES AND ORANGES, YOU KNOW, BEFORE YOU WERE LOOKING AT A DISTRICT THAT WAS GONNA BE PAID OFF, AND NOW YOU'RE ADDING IT AND LENGTHENING IT BACK OUT. UM, I AGREE OR DISAGREE WITH THIS ON MANY DIFFERENT FRONTS. UM, YOU KNOW, AND, AND I'LL HAVE MORE QUESTIONS DOWN THE ROAD, BUT AT LEAST THAT PART OF IT, I DO UNDERSTAND WHY THEY NEED TO DO IT. OKAY. THANK YOU. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FROM THE COMMITTEE? NOT REALLY. I GUESS AS I LOOK AT, UM, YOU KNOW, THE, I UNDERSTAND THE WANTING TO IMPROVE, UH, 18TH AVENUE TO MAKE SURE THAT IT CAN HANDLE THE TRAFFIC, BUT WHEN YOU LOOK AT IT, THERE'S ALSO AN EXIT OUT ONTO, UH, CONEY TRUNK HIGHWAY AND N UM, AND I WOULD APPRECIATE THE OPINION OF, OF OUR, UH, CHIEF OF PUBLIC WORKS TO SEE IF HE THINKS THAT WE WOULD NEED TO MAKE CHANGES THERE AS WELL, TO MAKE IMPROVEMENTS THAT THAT MIGHT NOT NECESSARILY BE INCLUDED IN THE TAX INCREMENT DISTRICT FINANCING. AND I REALIZE IT'S AN UNFAIR QUESTION TO CATCH YOU OFF GUARD LIKE THAT, BUT IT'S YOUR OPINION. UM, THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR. NO, IT'S A VERY FAIR QUESTION. UH, WE HAVE ACTUALLY NOT BEEN CONTACTED BY ANYBODY IN THIS DEVELOPMENT YET FOR ACCESS ONTO COUNTY HIGHWAY NN. IT'S QUITE POSSIBLE THAT THAT ACCESS MIGHT HAVE TO GO TO PUBLIC [00:45:01] WORKS TO GET APPROVED. UH, THEY WOULD'VE TO MAKE CERTAIN IMPROVEMENTS, CERTAINLY TURN LANES, BYPASS LANES. AND AS SUCH, UH, NOT SEEING ANY TRAFFIC VOLUMES OR PROJECTIONS YET NOT SEEING ANY PLAN THAT WAS GIVEN TO US, UH, THERE MIGHT BE MORE THAT WOULD BE NEEDED AT THAT PARTICULAR LOCATION. A TRAFFIC STUDY, FOR INSTANCE. WE JUST DON'T KNOW YET WHAT'S ALL COMING BECAUSE NOTHING'S BEEN FORMALLY PRESENTED TO US. WE WOULD ALSO WANNA LOOK AT THE INTERSECTION JUST TO THE EAST OF THIS AT HIGHWAY NN AND HIGHWAY P, IF YOU'RE NOT FAMILIAR, SOUTH MAIN STREET AS WELL IN THE CITY WEST BEND, UH, SCO DRIVE TO THE EAST. UH, AND THE TRAFFIC IMPACT IT MIGHT HAVE JUST A LITTLE BIT FURTHER ON DOWN THE ROAD AS WELL. SO IT'S CERTAINLY SOMETHING WE'D BE INTERESTED IN LOOKING AT. BUT YES, THERE MIGHT BE OTHER, OTHER AVENUES AND OTHER THINGS THAT MIGHT HAVE TO BE DONE OUT THERE THAT ARE OUTSIDE THE SCOPE. I WOULD ASSUME THEY ALREADY ACCOUNTED FOR TURN LANES AND BYPASS LANES ON ALONG COUNTY HIGHWAY NNN, UH, PEOPLE TURNING IN AND TURNING OUT. BUT, UH, AGAIN, WE HAVEN'T SEEN ANY, ANY PLANS YET. VERY GOOD, THANK YOU. SO BASED ON, UM, BASED ON THAT INFORMATION, IT'S HARD TO TELL IF THERE MIGHT NOT BE ADDITIONAL, UM, TIT EXPENSES THAT AREN'T EVEN INCLUDED IN THIS. MM-HMM . SUPERVISOR CHATTER. I WAS JUST GONNA ADD THAT, UH, WITH THAT KNOWLEDGE, I AM NOT FOR THIS EITHER UNTIL WE GET MORE INFORMATION. YEAH, I, I DON'T THAT WE'LL GET MORE INFORMATION BEFORE IT'S TIME FOR, UH, MR. DOLL'S MEETING AND, AND HIS INPUT. BUT I WOULD BE CURIOUS, UH, SUPERVISOR KEL, IF YOU WOULDN'T MIND SHARING SOME OF YOUR OTHER CONCERNS WITH THIS, UH, VENTURE. UM, SO THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN. UM, ONE, ONE OF THE THINGS WHEN I LOOK AT THIS AND, AND MR. UH, DAHL, THIS IS AN A QUESTION. IF YOU, AS I LOOK AT THE STRUCTURE OF THIS WHOLE THING, IT SEEMS LIKE IT'S ALL SPECULATIVE THAT, YOU KNOW, THESE ARE ALL BEING DONE BY ASSUMPTION. NOW, YOU CERTAINLY, THE BUILDER CAN BUILD HIS 95 UNITS, AND I CAN SEE THAT HE HAS A TIMETABLE FOR THAT, THAT MIGHT HAPPEN, UH, ASSUMING THE ECONOMY STAYS OKAY. AND EVERYTHING'S, I'VE BUILT 30 HOMES WITH MY BROTHER. I, I'M WELL AWARE OF HOW THE BUSINESS WORKS. SO, OKAY, THAT MIGHT HAPPEN. IT'S THE MIXED USE PART, WHICH WOULD ACCOUNT FOR A SIGNIFICANT PORTION OF THE PAYBACK OF THIS TID IS COMPLETELY SPECULATIVE BY WHAT I'M SEEING HERE, THIS RETAIL AREA, POSSIBLY INDUSTRIAL AREA. IS THIS ANOTHER CASE OF IF WE BUILD IT, THEY WILL COME, LIKE YOU HAD WITH MILWAUKEE TOOL WHERE THEY DIDN'T COME, UH, BECAUSE IT'S NOT A GREAT PLACE FOR TRUCKS AND STUFF LIKE THAT. UH, YOU KNOW, YOU'RE NOT THAT CLOSE. I MEAN, YOU CAN GET TO, UH, THE FREEWAY AND STUFF, EVEN THOUGH IT'S LIKE LITERALLY RIGHT THERE. THERE'S NO RAMP IN THE AREA MM-HMM . UH, YOU KNOW, SO THERE'S A LOT OF REASONS TO NOT LIKE THE SPECULATION, BUT THE FACT OF THE MATTER IS, IS IF IT'S NOT FILLED AND IT'S NOT PROVIDING THE TAXES, AND YOU'VE ALREADY GOT THIS ALL THE WAY OUT TO THE 20 YEAR MARK, WHICH IS WHERE YOU LIKE TO SEE TS, THIS TID WILL GO UNDERWATER. AND THAT WOULD LEAD THE CITY ON THE HOOK, I WOULD ASSUME. UM, AND I GUESS ALSO MY QUESTION FOR YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN, AND THIS IS WHAT WE ALLUDED TO EARLIER, IS LIKE, OKAY, JUST BECAUSE I BELIEVE THAT THE CITY OF WEST BEND IS DOING SOMETHING DUMB WITH THE STRUCTURE OF THIS TID, DOES THAT MEAN WE AS THE COUNTY, SHOULD NECESSARILY STOP THEM FROM DOING IT? UH, BECAUSE THERE IS FROM, YOU KNOW, LOCAL GOVERNMENT CONTROL VERSUS FEDERAL OR STATE. SO TO THAT POINT, UM, WE, WE CANNOT STOP THEM FROM DOING IT. IF THERE ARE, UM, PLEASE REMIND ME, HOW MANY MEMBERS ON A JOINT REVIEW BOARD IS IT? SEVEN? FIVE FIVE. SO WE HAVE 20% OF A VOTE. AND WE MAY, NO MATTER HOW STRENUOUSLY MAY, WE MAY OBJECT, OR YOU KNOW, HOW ADAMANTLY WE ADAMANTLY WE, WE MAY OBJECT. UM, THE OTHER PARTIES MAY VOTE FOR IT, AND IT COULD HAPPEN ANYWAY. SO WE CAN'T STOP IT. BUT WE, IT IS OUR RESPONSIBILITY TO OFFER OUR OPINION. AND, AND THAT BEING SAID, UH, THOSE ARE SOME OF THE ISSUES THAT I HAVE, IS THE STRUCTURE OF THE PAYBACK, UH, THE STRUCTURE OF THE PE UH, THE SPECULATION AND WHERE THEY CAME UP WITH HOW THAT'S GONNA WORK. UH, YOU KNOW, WHO, WHO WOULD THEY HAVE, FROM WHAT I UNDERSTAND, THERE'S NO INVESTORS THAT ARE LINED UP FOR THIS. UH, YOU KNOW, IF SOMEBODY WAS LIKE, HEY, UH, I'D BE INTERESTED IN BUILDING MY FACTORY THERE IN, IN THE YEAR 2028, NOBODY REALLY SETS UP, YOU KNOW, SPECULATION THAT FAR IN ADVANCE. MM-HMM . SO THAT'S WHY WHEN I LOOKED AT THIS, I KNEW IT WAS KIND OF LIKE THEY'RE HOPING SOMEBODY COMES HERE OR THEY THINK SOMEBODY MAY, AND THAT'S WHAT THEY'RE BASING THESE NUMBERS ON. THEY'RE LITERALLY PULLING THEM OUT OF THIN AIR. YEAH. AND THAT'S, THAT'S, THAT IS ACCURATE. THE, THE LATER PHASES OF THE DEVELOPMENT ARE, ARE MORE SPECULATIVE [00:50:01] THAN, THAN THE EARLY ONES. UM, I WOULD TELL YOU THAT THAT IS NOT ENTIRELY UNCOMMON, UH, AS FAR AS TAX INCREMENTAL DISTRICTS GO AS THEY'RE BUILDING THEM OUT. UM, BUT, BUT THAT IS, THAT IS A RISK THAT THAT IS OUT THERE. SO YOU, UH, PUBLIC WORKS DIRECTOR PLEASE. THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR FOR MAY. UH, WE'D ALSO LOOK AT THE INTERSECTION AT 18TH AND THEN INTO, I DIDN'T WANNA GLOSS OVER THAT NOW. I LOOKED AT A PLAN A LITTLE CLOSER AND MAKE SURE IF THERE'S OTHER PEOPLE LISTENING IN ON THE MEETING OR VIEWING IT LATER ON, ALSO BE LOOKING AT THAT INTERSECTION. YEP. THANK YOU. UM, DO YOU HAVE ANY DISSENTING OPINION? YEAH, I'M, I'M, I'M JUST THINKING IN GENERAL, FROM WHAT I'VE SEEN TOO, I'M NOT A REAL HUGE FAN OF TIFFS ANYWAY. AND THE IDEA OF THE ANTICIPATING AND BUILD IT AND THEY WILL COME IS UNCOMFORTABLE FOR ME TO RECOMMEND IT. VERY WELL. I DON'T DISAGREE. SO, UH, IF YOU'VE GOT YOUR OPINION ON THIS ONE, WE'LL MOVE ON TO THE NEXT. I DO, YES. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. UM, SO MOVING, MOVING ON TO, UM, TECH INCREMENTAL DISTRICT SIX, UH, IN KI WASCOM, WHICH IS BEING PROPOSED, UM, THIS IS A VERY LARGE TID IN TERMS OF LAND SIZE AND DEVELOPMENT POTENTIAL. UM, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT 334 ACRES IN THE NORTH AND DOWNTOWN AREAS OF THE VILLAGE, AND THERE'S A SUBSTANTIAL PORTION ON AND NEAR THE, THE HIGH SCHOOL. UM, THE PLAN CALLS FOR EXPENDITURES OF 38 MILLION, UH, AND IS EXPECTED TO GENERATE $182 MILLION OF NEW PROPERTY VALUE. UM, AND THE PLAN ASSUMES THAT IT'LL TAKE 18 OF THE 20 ALLOWABLE YEARS FOR THE TAXES ON THAT NEW PROPERTY TO FUND THE EXPENDITURES, UH, PLANNED IN THAT DISTRICT. UM, THE DEVELOPMENT ASSUMPTIONS, UH, INCLUDE 94 SINGLE FAMILY HOMES, 22 DUPLEXES, 105 SENIOR LIVING UNITS, AND SOME COMMERCIAL AND RETAIL BUILDINGS. UM, SO AGAIN, 180 MILLION, THAT'S A LARGE TID. UH, WE'VE ONLY GOT ONE IN THE COUNTY THAT'S CURRENTLY LARGER THAN THAT. THAT IS THE, WHAT, WHAT WAS ORIGINALLY CALLED THE BRIGGS TID, UH, IN GERMANTOWN. UM, SO FOR REFERENCE, KIOSKI'S TOTAL PROPERTY VALUE IS 520 MILLION. SO IF YOU'RE ADDING $180 MILLION TO THAT, YOU'RE, YOU'RE TALKING A BIG BOOST TO, TO THAT COMMUNITY. SO VERY, VERY LARGE, VERY SUBSTANTIAL, UH, DEVELOPMENT HERE. UM, THE MAJORITY OF THE PLAN EXPENDITURES, UH, THOSE ARE, THERE'S DEVELOPER INCENTIVES. UM, THERE'S SOME COSTS FOR A, A SANITARY SEWER LIFT STATION, UM, AND, AND ABOUT $3 MILLION FOR A DOWNTOWN REVITALIZATION PROGRAM. UM, AND THE DOWNTOWN VI REVITALIZATION PROGRAM IS, IS THE PIECE THAT I WANTED TO, TO TOUCH ON WITH THIS, THIS COMMITTEE. UM, IT'S FAIRLY UNIQUE IN TERMS OF, UH, IN, IN THE TIF SPACE. UM, IT'S CERTAINLY ALLOWED UNDER STATE STATUTE. UM, THESE DOWNTOWN REVITALIZATION PROGRAMS CAN WORK WONDERS TO HELP GIVE DOWNTOWNS A BOOST. SO, UM, THEY, THEY ARE, THEY ARE VALUABLE. THEY CAN REALLY PROVIDE THAT SPARK, UM, YOU KNOW, SOMETIMES. SO, SO BASICALLY, MY QUESTION FOR YOU IS, DO WE AGREE WITH INCLUDING THIS IN THE PROJECT PLAN, UM, AS AN INITIATIVE THAT SHOULD BE FUNDED WITH TIFF? UM, THERE'S, THERE'S A NUMBER OF FUNDING OPTIONS, BUT SUPERVISOR CHAD, THANK YOU AGAIN. MY FIRST QUESTION ON THIS IS WHY SUCH A BIG BITE IN ONE, I MEAN, THAT, THAT IS A BIG CHANGE. MM-HMM . CAN KIOSKI HANDLE SOMETHING AT THAT SIZE? IS IT REASONABLE FOR, TO EXPECT THEM TO DO SOMETHING OF THIS SIZE? THE, THE, THIS, THAT SAME QUESTION WAS BROUGHT UP AT THE, AT THE FIRST JOINT REVIEW BOARD MEETING, THE INTRODUCTORY MEETING THAT WE HAD. UM, THEY SEEM CONFIDENT, PART OF THE REASON FOR THE SIZE OF THE DISTRICT. SO WHEN YOU'RE CREATING TAX INCREMENTAL DISTRICTS, THEY HAVE TO BE STRUCTURED IN A CERTAIN WAY, NO MORE THAN, I THINK 35% CAN BE NEWLY PLATTED RESIDENTIAL. THEY'VE GOTTA HAVE, YOU KNOW, X PERCENT HAS TO BE THIS OR THAT. AND SO I THINK THERE WAS A LOT OF CREATIVITY AROUND JUST BASED ON THE SHAPE OF IT, EVEN, UM, SOME CREATIVITY AROUND HOW THAT WAS DRAWN. SO THE DISTRICT IS VERY LARGE. MOST OF THE ACTIVITY IS OCCURRING IN THAT VERY NORTHERN PART OF, OF THE DISTRICT. UM, AND THEN OBVIOUSLY THE, THE DOWNTOWN REDEVELOPMENT PIECE IN THAT DOWNTOWN SECTION THAT, THAT SWINGS DOWN, UM, THE HIGHWAY. SO WAS THERE ANY CONCERNS BROUGHT UP BY LOCAL CITIZENS ON THIS ONE? YEAH. UM, YES, THERE WAS SOME LAND THAT WAS ANNEXED FROM THE TOWN. YEAH. UM, AND SO THAT WAS, THERE [00:55:01] WAS, THERE WAS A SIGNIFICANT CITIZEN PRESENCE AT THE, AT THE PLANNING, UH, MEETING THAT OCCURRED RIGHT AFTER THE JOINT REVIEW BOARD MEETING. ARE YOU FINISHED MR. SHATTER? YEAH. SUPERVISOR KELLY FOR NOW. YEAH. HOW LONG BEFORE THIS WAS THAT LAND ANNEXED? UM, IT, IT WAS, IT'S, IT WAS VERY RECENTLY ANNEXED, UH, ISN'T THE STATUTE, UH, REQUIRE A THREE YEAR? YEAH, IT DOES. AND IN EXCHANGE FOR, FOR THAT THERE, UH, THE VILLAGE IS COMPENSATING THE TOWN WITH SOME PROCEEDS FROM THE DISTRICT FOR, UM, LOST TAX REVENUE. AND THAT'S ALLOWED UNDER STATUTE THAT THAT'S ALLOWED. YES. OKAY. UM, I GUESS I, I, I DO HAVE SOME, BECAUSE I KNOW THAT THERE'S, THERE'S A FEW LOCAL RESIDENTS THAT ARE NOT HAPPY WITH IT, THAT ARE IN THE TOWN. UM, AND SOME THINK IT'S RELATIVELY RECKLESS OF THE CITY OF KI WASCAN OR THE VILLAGE OF KI WASCAN TO EVEN DO THIS BECAUSE IT'S SUCH A MASSIVE UNDERTAKING. UM, AND, AND THE OTHER THING I HAVE CONCERN WITH TOO IS THEIR WATER SYSTEM, WHICH IS UNGODLY EXPENSIVE. WHETHER OR NOT THIS WILL ACTUALLY, UH, STRESS THAT OUT AND MAKE IT EVEN MORE EXPENSIVE, OR ACTUALLY MAKE IT COST EFFICIENT BECAUSE IT'S TREATING IT AND SPREADING IT OUT OVER A BIGGER DISTANCE. THAT'S A QUESTION I DON'T HAVE. MM-HMM . MM-HMM . YOU KNOW, I'D SURE LIKE TO KNOW, UM, LITERALLY MY MOTHER AND MY FAMILY LIVE IN KI WASUM, SO, UH, YOU KNOW, THESE ARE SOME OF THE THINGS THAT, THAT, UH, THAT THEY'RE FACING OUT THERE. UM, I GUESS BEFORE IT'S LIKE ALMOST 20% OF THEIR VILLAGE, YOU KNOW, THAT, THAT THEY'RE, THEY'RE GONNA, THE, THE FINANCIAL RISK IS ENORMOUS. UM, BUT IT DOES SEEM TO BE, I MEAN, I DIDN'T SEE ANYTHING GLARING ABOUT IT OTHER THAN MAYBE THAT DOWNTOWN PART, BUT THAT'S NOT UNCOMMON IN A LOT OF THESE TIFFS AND DOWNTOWN REVITALIZATION, AT LEAST LEADS TO ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, AS OPPOSED TO THE TID WHERE THEY DID IN WEST BEND WHERE THEY REDID THE RIVER WALK, WHICH THAT'S A PARK. MM-HMM . I DON'T THINK A PARK BELONGS IN TS. UM, BUT, YOU KNOW, IF YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT CLEANING UP THE STREETS OF, OF EW WASUM AND STUFF LIKE THAT, I, I THINK IT'S REASONABLE. UM, IF YOU'RE GONNA TAKE ON THIS PROJECT, AGAIN, WHEN I SEE THESE TIPS, I, WE CAN RAISE THESE QUESTIONS AND I CERTAINLY WOULD LIKE TO SEE 'EM RAISED. UM, BUT I DON'T EXPECT, I EXPECT THAT THIS WILL PROBABLY PASS MM-HMM . YOU KNOW, UM, BUT I THINK AS THE COUNTY AT LEAST, WE SHOULD AT LEAST JUST BRING FORTH THESE QUESTIONS THAT WE THINK THESE, THESE TS AND TIFFS ARE VERY RECKLESS BECAUSE THEY'RE, THEY'RE VERY LARGE, THEY'RE VERY SPECULATIVE. AT LEAST THIS ONE, IT'S MOSTLY RESIDENTIAL, WHICH IS GOOD BECAUSE THAT RIGHT NOW WE HAVE A SHORTAGE OF HOUSING. SO, UH, YOU KNOW, I THINK THAT'S LIKELY TO FILL PRETTY DARN QUICK. UM, IT, IT'S THE BUSINESS STUFF THAT THERE'S JUST NOBODY'S BUILDING BUSINESS RIGHT NOW, SO THAT, THAT WILL MAKE YOUR TID TID FALL SHORT, I GUARANTEE IT. SO, UM, JUST SOME POINTS THAT I GUESS I WOULD APPRECIATE THAT. THANK YOU FOR YOUR COMMENTS, SUPERVISOR. SCHULTE. UH, MY QUESTION IS FOR AARON, AND HOW DO YOU KNOW THE ATTENDANCE LEVEL AT THAT PUBLIC MEETING? UH, WAS IT WELL ATTENDED BY THE COMMUNITY OR AS, AS FAR AS THESE MEETINGS GO, UM, IT'S PROBABLY THE MOST PEOPLE I'VE EVER SEEN AT, AT A PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING, UM, WHICH SOMETIMES DIFFERENT ISSUES DRIVE, DRIVE ATTENDANCE AT THOSE, AND THAT'S PRETTY TYPICAL. BUT, UM, YOU KNOW, IT'S, I GUESS FROM MY PERSPECTIVE, THERE'S MORE THAN I'M USED TO SEEING. OKAY. I DO HAVE A COUPLE, UH, LOOKING THROUGH IT. I MEAN, BOY, FOR ALL THE PEOPLE THAT DON'T LIKE GERRYMANDERING, THEY MUST ABSOLUTELY HATE THIS, UH, TIFF DISTRICT 'CAUSE IT GOES ALL OVER THE PLACE. UM, I DO LIKE THAT IT, IT'S PLANNED TO CLOSE EARLY, BUT I DO HAVE CONCERNS AS WELL. IT, IT TAKES IT RIGHT UP TO 0.2% OF THE MAXIMUM ALLOWED BY LAW FROM, IF I RECALL CORRECTLY MM-HMM . POINT ONE OR 0.2%. SO THAT'S HUGE. AND THEN THE OTHER CONCERN I HAVE IS, UM, IT'S A $34 MILLION DEVELOPER INCENTIVE, WHICH SEEMS KIND OF HIGH. AND SO I'D BE CURIOUS TO SEE WHO, WHO BROUGHT THIS CONCEPT FORWARD IF IT WAS IN FACT THE VILLAGE OR IF IT WAS A VE A DEVELOPER TRYING TO, TO SCORE A WINDFALL. UM, A COUPLE OTHER CONCERNS I HAD ON PAGE 26. IT, IT LOOKS LIKE, [01:00:02] UM, WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE RESIDENTIAL AREA, YES. THAT IN A TIFF DISTRICT, UM, YOU WANT THE RESIDENTIAL AREA THERE SO THAT YOU CAN GET PEOPLE IN RIGHT AWAY TO START PAYING BACK THE INCREMENT. I UNDERSTAND THAT, BUT, UM, IT DOESN'T, IT CERTAINLY DOESN'T FIT WITH THE GOALS THAT MUCH OF THE COUNTY BOARD HAS WITH REGARD TO, UM, NEXT GENERATION HOUSING AND, AND TRYING TO MAKE SURE THAT, UM, IT'S AFFORDABLE. RIGHT? I UNDERSTAND WHY THE VILLAGE WOULD WANT TO HAVE AS MUCH HIGH-END HOUSING AS THEY COULD GET, BUT, UM, THAT'S, THAT'S FOR SOMEONE ELSE TO DECIDE. AND IN THE NEXT PART OF IT, UM, THE GREATEST PART OF THIS, AS I SEE IT, IF, IF MY MATH IS RIGHT, WAS FOR, UM, RESIDENTIAL, AND THAT THAT WAS WHERE THE INCREMENT WAS GONNA COME FROM AS OPPOSED TO BUSINESS. AND ALSO IN THERE, WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE ON PAGE, UH, 30, IT, THOSE ARE ALL DEVELOPER AS ASSESS ASSUMPTIONS. THOSE ARE NOT ALER ASSUMPTIONS WITH REGARD TO THOSE NUMBERS. SO ELLERS TOOK WHAT THE DEVELOPER SAID AND, AND, AND JUST RAN WITH IT. UM, I WOULD, I'D FEEL BETTER IF THAT WAS PUT FORTH BY ERS ITSELF, UM, RATHER THAN THE DEVELOPER. UM, AND THEN, YEAH, JUST LOOKING AT THE, AT THE PAYMENT THAT'S GOING TO BE MADE TO THE TOWN, IT JUST SEEMS LIKE THIS, THIS DISTRICT PUSHES EVERYTHING TO THE ABSOLUTE LIMIT AS FAR AS, UM, WHAT CORNERS CAN BE CUT, WHAT, WHAT ADVANTAGES CAN BE GENERATED FOR THE DEVELOPER. AND IT, IT JUST SEEMS, IT JUST SEEMS ONE SIDED TO ME. AND LIKE EVERYONE ELSE, I EXPECT THEY'LL GO FORWARD WITH IT. AND I HOPE I'M WRONG, BUT THAT'S MY OPINION RIGHT NOW. AND YET IT'S STILL BETTER THAN WEST BENDS DOES , WHICH JUST KILLS ME. DOES THAT SUFFICE FOR YOUR UH, IT, IT DOES. YEAH. VERY GOOD. IT DOES. ALRIGHT. AND WE'LL MOVE ON. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. ITEM THREE C ON THE AGENDAS 2024 RESOLUTION CONSIDERATION FOR THE CONTINUATION OF FUNDING FOR THE HEART AND HOMESTEAD PROGRAM. ALRIGHT, MOTION. UM, WE HAVE A MOTION FROM SUPERVISOR SHARIN WITH A SECOND FROM SUPERVISOR KELLY. AND, UH, YES, WE'LL GIVE THE FLOOR BACK TO YOU. GREAT, THANK YOU. UM, SO [c. 2024 Resolution – Consideration for the Continuation of Funding for the Heart & Homestead Program] THIS RESOLUTION WAS BROUGHT IN RESPONSE, UH, TO, SO WHEN WE, WHEN WE PASSED BACK IN NOVEMBER, THE, THE BUDGET ADJUSTMENT RESOLUTION, UM, THE COUNTY BOARD EXPRESSED INTEREST IN HAVING, UH, SORT OF A SUNSET RESOLUTION BEING BROUGHT FORTH FOR THE HEART AND HOMESTEAD PROGRAM. UM, THE LAND USE AND PLANNING, UH, COMMITTEE IS ALSO GOING TO BE SEEING ONE FOR, UM, FOR THE LAND, UH, THE, UH, CONSERVATION AND HERITAGE GRANT PROGRAM AS WELL. UM, SO THE ONGOING FUNDING WAS PUT INTO THE BUDGET, UH, IN THAT BUDGET, UH, BUDGET ADJUSTMENT RESOLUTION. AND SO THIS RESOLUTION IS ONE OF THE TWO SUNSET RESOLUTIONS. UM, THE HEART AND HOMESTEAD ONE IS COMING TO THIS COMMITTEE BECAUSE THIS COMMITTEE OVERSEES THAT PROGRAM. SO WHAT THIS DOES IS THERE, THERE, THIS RESOLUTION PUTS TWO TRIGGERS IN, UM, THE FIRST ONE BEING, UH, JUST GENERALLY, UM, IN, IN 2028. UM, THE PROGRAM ITSELF, UH, IS, IS GOING TO GO ON TO THE, THE AGENDA OF A COUNTY BOARD MEETING TO CONSIDER CONTINUATION OF THE PROGRAM, CONTINUATION OF THE FUNDING, SO THAT THAT'S IN THERE. UM, AND THEN THE SECOND TRIGGER IS IF THE, SO, SO THE, THE FUNDING SOURCE FOR THIS IS, UH, INTEREST ON OUR INVESTMENTS, RIGHT? INTEREST INCOME ON OUR INVESTMENTS, AS WE KNOW, THAT CAN BE A VOLATILE FUND FUNDING SOURCE. AND SO THE SECOND TRIGGER IS IN THE EVENT THAT, THAT, THAT FUNDING SOURCE, THAT REVENUE SOURCE DECLINES BELOW TWO AND A HALF MILLION DOLLARS IN TOTAL. UM, THAT'S OUR SECOND TRIGGER TO REVISIT THE FUNDING FOR THIS PROGRAM. AND THEN AT THAT TIME WE'LL DETERMINE IF WE'VE GOT ANOTHER FUNDING SOURCE, IF WE REDUCE THE PROGRAM FUNDING, IF WE CUT IT ALL TOGETHER. SO IT WOULD BE BROUGHT BACK ONTO AN AGENDA, UH, AT THAT TIME. SO THAT'S REALLY WHAT THIS RESOLUTION DOES. BUT HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY OTHER QUESTIONS. THANK YOU. ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS FROM THE COMMITTEE? OH, THIS ANSWERS THOSE QUESTIONS. YEAH. THIS IS THE ANSWER. YEP. ALL IN FAVOR OF THE MOTION, SAY AYE. AYE. AYE. ARE THERE ANY OPPOSED? MOTION CARRIES. [01:05:02] MOVING ON TO ITEM 3D 2024, RESOLUTION MASTER PLAN, INITIAL DEBT RESOLUTION. UM, I'VE TALKED AT YOU ENOUGH I THINK ON THIS ONE. WE'VE GOT, WE'VE GOT MARGIE HAMMERS HERE. UM, SHE CAN HELP ANSWER QUESTIONS ABOUT THE TECHNICAL SIDE OF THIS. UM, I, I'M HERE TO OBVIOUSLY HELP FILL IN, SO VERY WELL. WELCOME [d. 2024 Resolution – Initial Resolution Authorizing the Issuance of Not to Exceed $10,000,000 General Obligation Promissory Notes, Series 2025] MARGIE. UH, GOOD EVENING. UH, SO I'M HOPING THIS ISN'T ANY NEW INFORMATION. PARDON ME? UM, DO WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND? PLEASE? GO AHEAD. TAKE, UH, SUPERVISOR SICE. SUPERVISOR KELLY. ALL RIGHT. SO AS, UH, SORRY FOR THE INTERRUPT PREVIOUSLY DISCUSSED, UM, WE ARE GETTING READY TO DO THE FIRST DEBT ISSUE FOR THE FUNDING OF THE MASTER PLAN WORK AND, UM, SOME ROAD PROJECTS THAT ARE COMING UP, UH, THIS SPRING AND SUMMER. SO THE TOTAL DEBT ISSUE THAT THE COUNTY IS LOOKING AT IS $10 MILLION. UM, THE ACTUAL BREAKDOWN OF THE SPEND ON THAT, UH, RIGHT NOW IS STILL BEING WORKED OUT. UM, BUT IT WILL BE LIMITED TO THOSE TWO PROJECTS, THE REMODELING AND THE ROAD. UH, SO THERE WON'T BE ANYTHING NEW ADDED TO THAT. IT'S JUST DETERMINING HOW MUCH IS NEEDED FOR EACH OF THOSE AREAS. UM, THIS INITIAL RESOLUTION IS JUST APPROVING US TO PUT THIS OUT FOR BID. UH, WHICH BASICALLY MEANS THAT OUR FINANCIAL ADVISOR, UH, PUTS THIS OUT ON THE MARKET. UM, INVESTORS BID ON WHAT KIND OF INTEREST RATE THEY WOULD LIKE. UM, AND THEN OF COURSE THE LOWEST INTEREST RATE IS SELECTED. AND THEN THAT'S HOW THE COUNTY IS ENSURING THAT WE GET THE BEST RATES. UM, FOR AAA RATED COUNTY, WHICH WE ARE, IT'S THE MOST RECOMMENDED WAY TO DO IT JUST BECAUSE IT'S A VERY FAVORABLE TYPE OF BOND ISSUE, UH, TO BE AT THAT RATING. SO THERE WOULD BE NO REASON TO DIRECTLY SELL IT, UM, WHICH WE HAD PREVIOUSLY DONE IN THE PAST. SO, UM, ONCE THE, UH, BOARD APPROVES THIS AT THEIR NEXT MEETING, UM, THE FINANCIAL ADVISOR WILL PUT THAT OUT FOR BID AND THEN WE WILL COME BACK WITH A SPECIAL EXECUTIVE MEETING AND, UH, RIGHT BEFORE THE BOARD MEETING THE FOLLOWING MONTH TO DO THE ACTUAL FINAL APPROVALS, UM, TO AWARD THAT BID. UM, AND THEN ISSUE THE DEBT SO THEN THE PROCEEDS WOULD BE AVAILABLE FOR THE COUNTIES TO USE. UM, LATE MARCH, EARLY APRIL. SUPERVISOR, CHADRON, SORRY TO BE ASKING ALL THE QUESTIONS. IT'S, SORRY. NO, THAT'S WHAT YOU'RE HERE FOR, RIGHT? . AND WE DO HAVE TO PET IT OUT. EXACTLY. I JUST HAVE TWO QUESTIONS. NUMBER ONE, DO YOU HAVE ANY IDEA OF WHERE THE INTEREST RATES MIGHT BE AT NOW? AND THEN THE SECOND QUESTION IS, DOES WHERE ARE WE AT WITH OUR OVERALL DEBT LOAD TO DATE? UM, SO INTEREST RATES, WHEN WE FIRST WERE LOOKING AT THIS WITH OUR ADVISOR, UH, WE WERE SOMEWHERE BETWEEN NET THREE, THREE AND A HALF PERCENT. UM, WE'RE NOT EXPECTING A LOT OF SIGNIFICANT CHANGE IN NET LEVEL, EVEN WITH THE CURRENT INCREASES. UM, IT USUALLY TAKES A LITTLE BIT OF TIME FOR THAT TO KIND OF WORK INTO SOME OF THESE, UH, GOVERNMENT DEBT ISSUE MARKETS. SO, UM, WE'RE STILL PLANNING ON THAT. AND OUR CURRENT DEBT LOAD, LET ME JUST OPEN UP MY WORKSHEET HERE QUICK. IT, IT CLOSED OUT ON ME. EXCEL IS NOT MY FRIEND TODAY. I DON'T KNOW WHY. , I THINK I OVERUSED IT. , DOES THAT MEAN THE DEBT'S CLOSED OUT? THAT WOULD BE NICE. I MEAN, I WOULD PUT MY PERSONAL BUDGET IN THERE TOO. EVERYTHING'S PAID OFF, RIGHT? , MY, MY WORKSHEET SAYS IT'S PAID . UM, SO AT THE END OF UM, 24, WE ARE CURRENTLY AT ABOUT 22 MILLION, UM, OF GENERAL DEBT. AND THEN THERE'S OF COURSE THE 3 MILLION OF DEBT THAT, UM, WE'RE CURRENTLY WORKING TO CLOSE OUT FOR SAMARITAN. SO THAT'LL SHIFT INTO GENERAL DEBT. SO WE'LL BE CLOSER TO ABOUT MAYBE 25 IN TOTAL. MM-HMM . OKAY. THANK YOU. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? IF NOT ALL IN FAVOR OF THE MOTION, SAY AYE. AYE. ARE THERE ANY OPPOSED? MOTION CARRIES. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. OUR NEXT MEETING IS SCHEDULED FOR FEBRUARY 19TH, 2025. WE ARE ADJOURNED. THANK YOU. * This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting.