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YOUR DISTRICT? NO, I, NO.THAT YOU CAN'T, YOU CAN'T WORK IN YOUR OWN DISTRICT.
SO WHO'S THAT? BECAUSE IT'S A CONFLICT OF INTEREST.
SO OTHERWISE THEY WON'T LET ME WORK ON, UH, MOST PEOPLE HAVE ALWAYS WORKED IN THEIR OWN DISTRICT.
NOT, NOT, NOT IN THE ELECTION PART.
WE'LL BRING THIS PUBLIC WORKS COMMITTEE MEETING TO ORDER.
UM, THIS WAS POSTED AS REQUIRED BY STATE LAW, AND EVERYBODY'S HERE.
AND WE'LL STAND FOR A MOMENT OF SILENT PRAYER AND PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE.
PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS, ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL.
MAYBE A POLL WATCHER, BUT NOT PHYSICALLY.
WE'LL START WITH THE MEETING MINUTES FROM LAST MONTH.
DID EVERYBODY LOOK AT 'EM? ANY QUESTIONS, CONCERNS, CHANGES? NOT WE'LL FILE 'EM AS READ AND WE'LL MOVE ON TO THREE.
NOW WE'RE GONNA MOVE THIS, UH, GO OUTTA ORDER A LITTLE BIT HERE BECAUSE WE HAVE PEOPLE IN THE AUDIENCE.
SO WE'RE GONNA TRY TO GET THROUGH SOME OF THE IMPORTANT THINGS FIRST.
UH, SO ITEM THREE F, ACCESS APPEAL COUNTY, HIGHWAY M, TOWN OF FARMINGTON.
MOTION BY SUPERVISOR HARTWICK, SECOND BY SUPERVISOR GRAFF.
IS THERE ANYTHING YOU WANT TO TOUCH ON THIS, SCOTT? UH, YES.
UH, SO THIS, UH, APPLICATION, UH, FOR AN APPEAL CAME TO THE WASHINGTON COUNTY HIGHWAY DEPARTMENT.
UH, I'M TRYING TO BRING UP THE AERIAL PHOTO HERE, UH, IF YOU CAN.
OH, OH, I WON'T GET PEOPLE SICK.
UM, AND, AND SO, UH, HOW THIS, UH, CAME ABOUT WAS, UH, MANY YEARS AGO, THE, UH, OWNERS CAME AND APPLIED FOR AN ACCESS PERMIT ON THE NORTH SIDE THERE.
THAT'S THE BLUE TO THE NORTH ON COUNTY HIGHWAY M.
THIS IS ABOUT A HALF MILE NORTH OF COUNTY HIGHWAY A UP IN TOWN OF FARMINGTON.
UH, THAT WAS GRANTED WITH CERTAIN RESTRICTIONS THAT WAS PUT ON BY THE HIGHWAY COMMITTEE AT THAT POINT.
AND SO THAT'S WHY IT'S COMING BACK TO YOU TODAY, IS THAT THEY'RE LOOKING FOR A SECOND ACCESS POINT, UH, TO BE THE NORTH ONE BEING RESIDENTIAL, THE SOUTHERN ONE BEING AN AGRICULTURAL USE, UH, FOR THE PARCEL, UH, FARM PARCEL, EXCUSE ME, UH, FIELD THAT IS SOUTH OF THE RESIDENTIAL, UH, HOME THAT'S ON THAT PROPERTY.
AND SO, BEING THAT, UH, THEY DON'T COMPLY WITH HAVING, UH, MULTIPLE ACCESS POINTS TO THE SAME PARCEL AS WELL AS THE PREVIOUS NOTE THAT WAS PUT ON BY THE PREVIOUS HIGHWAY COMMITTEE, UH, THAT'S WHY YOU'RE SEEING IT BEFORE YOU TODAY, THAT STAFF COULD NOT, UH, UH, APPROVE THIS.
IT HAD TO GO TO THE COMMITTEE TO APPROVE, UH, THIS VARIANCE FOR THIS USE.
UH, THE STAFF IS, UH, IN FAVOR OF THE USE.
UH, THERE IS A AGRICULTURAL FIELD RIGHT ACROSS FROM HERE, UH, VERSUS IF YOU CAN SEE, IT'S ABOUT A, A QUARTER MILE OR SO.
IF THEY WANT, A FARMER CAME INTO THE NORTHERN ACCESS AND DROVE AROUND THE BACKSIDE OF THE HOUSE TO GET TO THIS FIELD AND BACK, UH, VERSUS A POSSIBILITY OF THAT FARMER DRIVING THROUGH THE DITCH AND PUTTING, UM, YOU KNOW, DANGEROUS CONDITION ONTO THE ROADWAY AND MUDDY CONDITION.
SO, UH, THE STAFF IS IN, IS IN FAVOR OF THIS, AND WITH THE RESTRICTIONS, UH, THAT ARE IN YOUR, UM, PACKET AS WELL.
UM, WE APPRECIATE THOSE IN THE MOTION AS WELL AS WRITTEN IN DOC IN THE PACKET.
AND READING THROUGH THIS, UH, YOU SAID THAT SIGHT LINES AND SAFETY IS NOT AN ISSUE, RIGHT? CORRECT.
IT'S, UH, IT MEETS THE SPACING REQUIREMENTS AS WELL, MOVING IT NORTH OR SOUTH.
IT'S GOT GOOD SITE DISTANCE, ESPECIALLY WITH AGRICULTURAL, UH, VEHICLES, WHICH TYPICALLY STEP UP A LITTLE BIT HIGHER THAN NORMAL TOO.
BUT EVEN REGULAR VEHICLES, IT'S A, A GOOD SPOT FOR, FOR A DRIVEWAY TO BE, LIKE I SAID, IT MATCHES THE ONE RIGHT ACROSS THE STREET AS WELL.
DOES ANYBODY IN THE COMMITTEE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? SEEING NO QUESTIONS? WE'LL VOTE.
UH, WE'RE GONNA JUMP DOWN TO H 2025.
ORDINANCE COUNTY HIGHWAY W NO PARKING ON STATE HIGHWAY 33, ZERS LUMBER.
I NEED A MOTION AND A SECOND FOR THIS AS WELL.
SC, WOULD YOU LIKE TO TOUCH BASE AGAIN? UH, YES.
UH, THIS WAS BROUGHT BEFORE THE TRAFFIC SAFETY COMMISSION, UH, BACK ON MARCH 5TH, UH, TO LOOK AT, UH, AREAS OF POTENTIAL, NO PARKING, UH, FOR SAFETY CONCERNS.
THIS STRETCH OF ROADWAY WAS RECENTLY RECONSTRUCTED BY THE COUNTY HIGHWAY DEPARTMENT.
IT'S JUST SOUTH OF 33 IN ALLENTON.
UH, THE CHARTER SAFETY COMMISSION TOOK IT UP, TOOK PUBLIC COMMENT ON THAT, UH,
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TO, UH, UH, I DON'T KNOW HOW LONG IT WAS, BUT WE DISCUSSED IT FOR QUITE A BIT A LONG TIME.UH, UH, WE HAD, UH, A RESIDENT THERE.
THE ALLENTON FIRE DEPARTMENT CHIEF WAS THERE, AND A, THE PROPERTY OWNER THAT OWNS THE APARTMENT COMPLEX, UH, RIGHT AT THE CORNER OF 33.
AND HIGHWAY W WAS ALSO PRESENT AT THAT MEETING, UM, AND ALLOWED TO SPEAK ON THIS.
UH, AFTER MUCH DISCUSSION AT THAT MEETING, I KNOW, UH, SUPERVISOR M**K WAS, WAS THERE AND, AND PRESENT AS WELL.
UH, THE DETERMINATION WAS, IS TO, UH, WHAT RECOMMENDATION IS FROM TRAFFIC SAFETY COMMISSION IS TO RESTRICT PARKING ON THE WEST AND SOUTH SIDE OF THE ROADWAY.
THAT'S WHERE ON THE MAP THAT'S UP THERE IS NUMBER ONE AND TWO, AND ALLOW PARKING ON NUMBER THREE.
I'LL GO DOWN TO THE, THERE'S A BUNCH OF PHOTOGRAPHS THAT ARE IN YOUR PACKET AS WELL WITH THE VEHICLES THAT ARE PARKED THERE ON RESTRICTING PEOPLE'S SITE DISTANCES THAT ARE IN THE, THE DRIVEWAYS AS NOW.
AND LET'S SEE IF I CAN FIND THE DRAWING.
AND SO THIS IS THE RECOMMENDATION THAT'S IN YOUR PACKET RIGHT NOW.
UM, OBVIOUSLY ON THE EAST SIDE OF THE ROAD, WHICH IS THE RIGHT SIDE, AS YOU LOOK AT IT, RIGHT IN FRONT OF FARMERS GRAIN BINS THERE, THAT'S A TURN LANE, UH, FOR HIGHWAY 33.
SO OBVIOUSLY WE DON'T WANT TRAFFIC PARKING IN A TURN LANE.
AND THEN THE WEST SIDE, YOU'LL SEE WE GOT, UH, THE NO PARKING, AGAIN, IT'S NO PARKING FROM THE CURB TOWARDS THE ROADWAY, NOT BEHIND THE CURB.
SO PEOPLE AT THE APARTMENT COMPLEX CAN STILL PARK BEHIND THE CURB, UH, WHERE THEY ARE RIGHT NOW.
IF YOU LOOK IN THE AREA FOLDING THE UPPER LEFT HAND CORNER, YOU CAN SEE THAT, UH, THE CURRENT NO PARK CURRENT PARKING RESTRICTIONS THAT'S IN YOUR COUNTY ORDINANCE RIGHT NOW, UH, DOES NOT ALLOW PARKING ACROSS A DRIVEWAY OR WITHIN, I BELIEVE IT'S, IT'S EITHER FOUR OR FIVE FEET WITHIN A DRIVEWAY.
SO YOU CAN SEE THAT THEY'RE ELIMINATING ONLY A, A FEW STALLS ON THE SOUTH OR WEST SIDE OF THE STREET.
UH, WE ALSO EXTENDED ALL THE WAY DOWN BECAUSE OF THE SAFETY ISSUE OF COMING NOT ONLY THE SAFETY ISSUE, BUT THE TWO DRIVEWAYS UP HERE COMING IN AND OUT WITH TRAFFIC COMING AROUND THE CORNER ON 33.
UH, BUT ALSO THE SAFETY ISSUE OF PEOPLE AROUND THIS CORNER GOING SOUTHBOUND, UH, THAT IF PEOPLE ARE GOING INTO THEIR VEHICLES OR EXITING VEHICLES, UH, THE SITE DOESN'T GO AROUND THE CORNER.
UH, BUT THEN AGAIN, ALLOWING PARKING ON THE, THE EAST SIDE OF, OF KIND OF HIGHWAY W THROUGH THAT ENTIRE STRETCH.
SO THAT WAS THE RECOMMENDATION BY THE TRAFFIC SAFETY COMMISSION, UH, TO THE PUBLIC WORKS.
UH, AND IF THE PUBLIC WORKS, UH, APPROVES IT AS SUCH, IT WOULD GO TO THE COUNTY BOARD FOR FULL COUNTY BOARD, UH, REVIEW AND APPROVAL.
I'D BE CERTAINLY HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT, THAT YOU MAY HAVE ON THIS AGENDA ITEM.
YOU KNOW, I, I DIDN'T THINK ABOUT IT THE WAY YOU EXPLAINED IT, UM, BUT IT, IT, NO PARKING, YOU CAN'T PARK ANYWAY BY A DRIVE, BY THE DRIVEWAYS AND STUFF.
SO IN LOOKING AT THAT A SECOND TIME, THERE VERY IS A VERY SMALL AMOUNT OF AREAS THAT ARE GOING TO BE LIT, BUT NO PARKING.
I THANK YOU FOR THAT EXPLANATION.
I DIDN'T THINK ABOUT THAT LOOKING AT IT INITIALLY.
SO THE ONE QUESTION I HAVE, SCOTT, IS WHAT YOU HAVE UP HERE IS DIFFERENT THAN WHAT WE HAVE IN OUR PACKET, RIGHT? NOPE, THAT'S IN YOUR PACKET.
IT'S JUST A LITTLE BIT FURTHER DOWN IN THE AGENDA PACKET.
THE ORIGINAL, ORIGINAL DRAWINGS, UH, WHICH ARE MORE, UH, UNPROFESSIONAL TO HAVE ONE, TWO, AND THREE KINDA LABELED ON IT.
UH, THAT WAS WHAT WENT TO THE TRAFFIC SAFETY COMMISSION.
AND THAT WAS WHAT THE RECOMMENDATION WAS.
AREAS RECOMMENDED FOR PARKING SECOND FROM THE BOTTOM.
SO, AND, AND THEN THE OTHER QUESTION I HAVE FOR YOU, SCOTT, JUST FOR CLARIFICATION PURPOSES, IS, UH, IN THEIR RECOMMENDATION, UH, IT SAYS, TRAFFIC SAFETY COMMISSION RECOMMENDS APPROVAL DENIAL,
BUT YOUR MOTION IS, YOU CAN EITHER AGREE WITH THAT GOTCHA.
IF YOU WANT THE COMM, THE PUBLIC WORKS HERE COULD DENY IT TOO.
SO WE KIND OF PUT THAT IN THE MOTION.
SO IF YOU'RE IN FAVOR OF IT, THE MOTION IS WITH APPROVAL.
IF, IF YOU, UH, HAVE BEEN CONTACTED BY PEOPLE AND YOU HAVE A DIFFERENT OPINION, UH, THEN YOU WOULD WRITE THE MOTION AS A DENIAL.
I THOUGHT THEY WERE MAKING A, YOU KNOW, A RECOMMENDATION OF APPROVAL OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
NO, THE RECOMMENDATION WAS FOR APPROVAL.
IT WAS UNANIMOUS AT THE CHECK SAFETY COMMISSION.
IS THERE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FROM THE COMMITTEE? SEEING NONE.
SO YOU SHOULD CLARIFY THE APPROVAL OR DENIAL AS WELL.
SO EVERYBODY UNDERSTANDS APPROVAL OF THE RECOMMENDED OR DENIAL APPROVAL.
IT'S NOT A PUBLIC COMMENT MEETING.
IT'S, THERE IS NO, YEAH, THAT WASN'T DURING THE SAFETY MEETING.
UM, WE'LL VOTE TO APPROVE THE, THE NO PARKING.
DOES THAT MAKE SENSE? THAT'S THE MOTION.
SO, SO ALL FOR THE APPROVAL, SAY, AYE, I, AYE.
ANY, ANY NOTE NAYS? SEE, NONE.
THAT WAS A LITTLE CONFUSING THERE.
NOW WE'RE GONNA GO BACK IN ORDER HERE, UH, AND GO UP TO A,
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UH, IT QUARTERLY REPORT.UM, JUST REAL QUICK, UPDATES, HIGHLIGHTS, THINGS THAT WERE COMPLETED SINCE LAST TIME.
ON PAGE ONE, WE HAVE THE, UH, MICROSOFT ACCESS DATABASES.
THEY WERE CONVERTED OVER TO A WASHINGTON COUNTY APP.
SO, UM, A LOT OF DIFFERENT THINGS FOR, UM, THE PLANNING AND NATURAL OUR PLANNING PARKS NATURAL RESOURCES DEPARTMENT THAT WAS COMPLETED.
UM, ON PAGE THREE, MOVED TO OFFICE 365.
WE'VE HAD A LOT OF, UH, MOVEMENT WITH DEPARTMENTS INTERESTED IN MOVING FILES TO THE CLOUD, SO UTILIZING MORE OF OUR CLOUD SERVICES, UH, FOR FILE, UH, STORING.
SO IT'S NOT COMPLETE, BUT THAT'S GONNA BE AN ONGOING PROCESS PROBABLY FOR THE NEXT COUPLE YEARS.
BUT WE ARE STARTING TO GET, MAKE SOME REALLY GOOD HEADWAY ON THAT.
UH, ON PAGE FIVE ENHANCEMENTS TO IT INFRASTRUCTURE, UH, THE, ALL THE SWITCHES AT THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE ARE NOW COMPLETE.
THEY'VE BEEN RUNNING FOR A COUPLE WEEKS NOW, SO THAT'S GOOD.
I KNOW THAT ONE WE WERE BEHIND ON.
UM, THIS SUMMER WE PLAN TO START ON THE PUBLIC AGENCY CENTER REPLACING THEIR SWITCHES.
AND THEN ALSO THIS SUMMER, THE, UH, WIRELESS AROUND THE COUNTY THAT'S NOW BECOME PRETTY AGED.
UM, I'M HAPPY TO REPORT OUR 2025 SECURITY AUDIT HAS COMPLETED.
UM, IF YOU REMEMBER LAST YEAR, I REPORTED THAT OUR SCORE, OR KINDA LIKE OUR FO SCORE FOR CREDIT WAS 6 33, UM, THIS YEAR, 7 49.
SO A LOT OF THAT WAS HIRING OUR SECURITY POSITION.
UM, WE'VE ALSO PURCHASED SOME BETTER SOFTWARE TO HELP, UM, UPDATE COMPUTERS, WHICH IS PROVING TO BE EFFECTIVE.
UM, THOSE ARE THE BIGGEST UPDATES.
AND THEN THE TOWN OF AARON, UM, WE'RE STARTING TO GET MICROSOFT AGREEMENTS SIGNED FOR THEM AND WE'LL CONTINUE ON WITH THEIR IT SHARED SERVICES.
UM, AND THEN WE'LL KIND OF GIVE THAT A REST AND MONITOR THE REST OF THE YEAR, SEE HOW IT SHARED SERVICES ARE GOING.
NOW, WHEN YOU SAID, UM, WHAT WAS IT, 745 OUT OF WHAT? 800 OR WHAT'S THE TOP MARK? I THINK IT'S EIGHT 50.
IN FACT, IT'S, YEAH, THREE 50 TO EIGHT 50 AND, UH, WE ARE SELLING PRETTY WELL.
AND WITH ALL THESE OTHER, UH, AGAIN, WITH THE SHARED SERVICES, ALL THESE OTHER VILLAGES AND STUFF THAT WE'VE COMPLETED IN TOWNSHIPS, EVERYTHING STILL GOING SMOOTH LIKE IT WAS LAST MONTH AND WE'RE HAVING NO PROBLEMS WITH THEM.
UM, THERE ARE SOME PROJECTS GOING ON, YOU KNOW, UH, VILLAGE OF OWSM HAS THEIR BUILDING PROJECT, SO WE'RE HEAVILY INVOLVED IN THAT.
THAT'S ACTUALLY BECOMING, UH, DUE IN APRIL HERE WHEN THEY START MOVING BACK TO THEIR, THEIR NEW BUILDING, GETTING READY FOR MAY.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS, SUPERVISOR? M**K? YEAH, JOE, I HAD A QUESTION.
SO ON, ON THE VERY FIRST PAGE, ON THE VERY, UH, FIRST ITEM, THE LAND RESOURCES, UM, UH, AND NEXT GENERATION PERMITTING.
SO, UH, AND THAT HAD, SO THAT WAS 7 31 OF, OF 24, AND IT SAYS IT'S ON TRACK.
LIKE, YOU KNOW, I MEAN, HOW MUCH OF THAT DO YOU FEEL IS, UH, YOU CAN SOMEBODY DO ONLINE OF THE DIFFERENT PERMITS ON HERE? LIKE NON-METALLIC MINING PERMIT APPLICATIONS, ALL THIS KIND OF STUFF? HOW MUCH OF THAT IS, YOU KNOW, IS RUNNING ONLINE? UM, A LOT OF THESE PERMITS ARE UP AND RUNNING.
THERE ARE TWO PERMITS THAT WE ARE WAITING ON.
I KNOW ONE IS THE COUNTY HIGHWAY ACCESS UTILITY PERMIT, WHICH WE'RE WAITING TO WORK WITH, UM, ON, ON, ON SCOTT.
UM, AND THEN THERE IS, UM, ONE OTHER PERMIT THAT WE'RE WORKING WITH PLANNING AND PARKS, UM, JUST ON TWEAKS AND CHANGES BEFORE WE GO LIVE WITH IT.
BUT, UM, I'D SAY YEAH, 80% OF THOSE PERMITS ARE ONLINE.
SO YOU CAN DO THIS ONLINE, SO, YOU KNOW.
SO NO OTHER QUESTIONS? IS THAT ALL YOU GOT? THAT'S ALL I HAVE.
WE'LL MOVE ON TO ITEM B TRANSIT QUARTERLY REPORT.
HOW ARE YOU DOING? I'M DOING GOOD.
SO IT WAS, IT WAS UPDATED, BUT IT LOOKS LIKE IT WAS PULLED BEFORE I UPDATED IT.
THE, UH, SECOND AND THIRD GOAL.
UH, THOSE ARE BOTH, ACTUALLY THE SECOND GOAL IS, UH, IS ON TRACK.
UH, WE DID AMEND, UH, WELL I GUESS THAT'S ANOTHER ITEM HERE IS AMENDING THE POLICIES AND PROCEDURES.
UH, FOR THE CHANGES THAT WE MADE, UH, TO THE HOURS AT THE BEGINNING OF THIS YEAR.
AND THEN, AS YOU KNOW, WE'RE ALSO EVALUATING THE, THE WEEKEND SERVICE.
AND THEN WE ARE ALSO LOOKING AT, UH,
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WE GO FOR A REQUEST FOR A PROPOSAL, UH, THIS YEAR FOR THE TAXI SERVICE.SO, UH, WE ARE ALSO LOOKING AT THE SERVICE, UH, THAT WILL BE INCLUDED IN THE, IN THE CONTRACT FOR, FOR NEXT YEAR.
ANYBODY ELSE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? MCCO? UH, SO ON THE SHARED RIDE TAXI RIDERSHIP, WHEN I LOOK AT THE, UH, AT THE COST PER HOUR, THE BOTTOM RIGHT, THE CORNER, BOY, THAT NUMBER MOVES EVERY YEAR UP BY LIKE 10% A YEAR.
SO IS IT THE QUARTERLY REPORTS ARE RIGHT NOW, AND THEN NEXT IS GONNA BE THE NUMBERS.
SO YOU WANT TO JUMP TO THE NEXT ONE THEN?
UH, WELL ACTUALLY, UH, THE COUNTY CRASH DATA, IS THAT WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT? NO.
WE WERE ON A QUARTERLY TRANSIT RIDERSHIP REPORT.
OKAY, WE'LL JUMP RIGHT INTO THAT THEN.
DID YOU WANNA START WITH YOUR QUESTION THEN? I MEAN, YEAH, THAT WAS IT.
IT'S JUST, UH, I'M JUST CURIOUS AT THAT COST PER HOUR, THAT SEEMS TO BE EVEN WITH INFLATION THAT YOU KNOW, THAT, YOU KNOW, THAT, UH, THE COST FOR THAT SERVICE ON AN HOURLY BASIS POINT THAT KEEPS MOVING UP.
YEAH, I, I DEFINITELY HAVE BEEN, UH, DIGGING INTO, UH, THE TRIPS PER HOUR AND SEEING WHAT WE CAN DO, UH, ONE THING, 'CAUSE THAT'S, YOU KNOW, THE COST PER TRIP IS, YOU KNOW, DIRECTLY TIED TO THE TRIPS PER, PER BUILD HOURS.
YOU KNOW, IF WE GET MORE TRIPS IN PER HOUR, THEN, YOU KNOW, WE CAN REDUCE THAT COST PER TRIP IF WE CAN.
UH, SO WE ALREADY, THAT WAS PART OF THE, UH, GOAL OF REDUCING THE SCHEDULE TO EIGHT O'CLOCK INSTEAD OF NINE O'CLOCK.
UH, BUT DEFINITELY IT STILL WENT UP.
THE CONTRACT DID GO UP, UH, FOR THIS YEAR, UH, AS IT DOES, UH, ANNUALLY, THE CONTRACT GOES UP.
UH, SO WE WILL SEE WHAT THAT EFFECT, UH, HAS DONE.
I GUESS I CAN DO A, LET'S SEE HERE.
SO THAT IS ONE THING WE TRIED DOING.
I'VE BEEN LOOKING AT THE DATA, UH, BEHIND THE TRIPS PER HOUR, SEEING WHAT KIND OF TRIPS ARE CAUSING SUCH A, SUCH A, UH, HIGH COST PER, PER TRIP, YOU KNOW, WHAT, WHAT KIND OF FARTHER TRIPS AND WHAT KIND OF PURPOSE AND, UH, SEEING WHEN THOSE TRIPS ARE AND SEEING IF WE CAN WORK WITH OUR, UH, PROVIDER ON BEING MORE EFFICIENT WITH THOSE TRIPS AND POSSIBLY GROUPING THOSE TOGETHER.
SO I'VE BEEN DIGGING INTO THE, THE DATA ON THOSE TRIPS NOW THAT WE'VE ALREADY MADE THAT ADJUSTMENT TO THE, TO THE HOURS.
I, I WOULD THINK THAT'S KIND OF DIFFICULT TO DO, SEEING IT'S ON DEMAND, RIGHT.
TO TRY TO, I MEAN, THIS WHOLE TAXI THING IS ON DEMAND WHEN A PERSON NEEDS YOU AND THEY GOTTA GO SOMEWHERE.
SO TRYING TO BE MORE EFFICIENT AND STUFF LIKE THAT WITH ROUTES, IT'S KIND OF DIFFICULT, ISN'T IT? IT CAN BE HARD WITH CANCELLATIONS AND, AND NO SHOWS THAT CAN, UH, DEFINITELY AFFECT, UH, UH, THE, THE PLANNING OF THE SERVICE.
SO, MR. CHAIRMAN, I, SO THE REASON I JUST MAKE THAT OBSERVATION IS BECAUSE YOU'RE, YOU KNOW, YOU LOOK AT THAT AND, AND, AND YOU JUST THINK THOSE INCREASES, YOU KNOW, THAT'S NOT SUSTAINABLE.
BUT I THINK WE KNOW THAT THE MODEL'S GOTTA BE KIND OF LOOKED AT MM-HMM
SO AS WE'VE TALKED ABOUT MAKING CHANGES TO THIS, IT'S NOT JUST, WELL, YOU WANT TO MAKE CHANGE JUST FOR THE SAKE OF CHANGE.
YOU HAVE TO MAKE CHANGE BECAUSE IT'S AN, IT'S AN UNSUSTAINABLE PATH THAT SURE.
THAT WE HAVE TO, UH, AT SOME POINT LOOK AT, UH, AND USE ALL THIS GREAT DATA.
I MEAN, YOU KNOW, YOU HAVE, YOU KNOW, YOU KNOW, EVERY, YOU KNOW EVERY TOUCH POINT THAT YOU NEED, UH, TO LOOK AT.
WE HAVE HERE, BUT I MEAN YEAH.
THOSE, YOU KNOW, THOSE ANNUAL INCREASES AND I GET, I MEAN, I UNDERSTAND WHY IT'S HAPPENING.
UM, IT'S JUST SOMETHING THOUGH THAT, THAT AT SOME POINT WE'LL HAVE TO PROBABLY MAKE SOME MORE.
I THINK, UH, WE WILL CONSTANTLY KEEP AN EYE AS WE HAVE FOR THE LAST, AS LONG AS I'VE BEEN HERE, WE'VE BEEN KEEPING THIS ON THERE AND IT'S, I THINK IT'S A GOOD THING WE DO.
BECAUSE IT IS SOMETHING THAT THE COSTS ARE GOING UP AND WE JUST NEED TO KEEP AN EYE ON IT AND FIND OUT WHAT, WHAT WE NEED TO TWEAK TO KEEP IT IN CONTROL.
SO IT DOESN'T GET, UH, UH, BECOME A TOTAL DRAIN ON THE ACCOUNT.
YOU KNOW, LIKE YOU SAID, FOR VALUE.
ARE THERE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS ON THIS? OKAY.
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WE'LL MOVE ON TO THE COUNTY CRASH DATA MAP REVIEW.IF WE PUT IT BACK UP, UP IN THE SCREEN.
AND WHILE YOU'RE SETTING UP, I GUESS ONE THING I LOOKED AT WITH THIS, IT SEEMS LIKE THE MAJORITY OF CRASHES HAPPEN ON THE STATE HIGHWAYS.
WELL, THEY GOT OUT OF, OUT OF 50 IN A, WHAT THE THREE YEAR PERIOD SEEMED LIKE 20 OF 'EM WERE ON THE STATE HIGHWAYS.
SO, YEAH, JUST GETTING INTO THIS A LITTLE BIT, UM, FIRST AND FOREMOST, I WANT TO THANK THE EFFORTS OF MIKE VANDER SAND AND FROM GIS 'CAUSE HE'S THE MASTERMIND BEHIND, UH, THESE, THESE MAPS.
UM, AS ALWAYS A GREAT GUY TO WORK WITH.
UM, SO YEAH, THIS DATA ALL CAME FROM THE, THE TOPS LAB.
THAT'S A TRAFFIC OPERATIONS AND SAFETY LAB FROM EW MADISON.
UM, SO SAME DATA SOURCES, OUR INTERSECTION AND ROADWAY SAFETY PLANS.
UM, THEY TIE TOGETHER REALLY NICELY WITH THOSE PLANS.
UH, USING THIS AS KIND OF LIKE A SUMMARY.
UM, OUR OTHER PLANS AT A SLIGHTLY DIFFERENT FIVE YEAR WINDOW.
WHEN WE LOOKED AT THE DATA, UM, THE PLANS WERE 18, 20 18 TO 2022 WITH CONSIDERATIONS FOR 2023.
THESE ARE A LITTLE BIT MORE, UH, RECENT, UH, LOOKING AT DATA FROM 2020 TO 2024.
SO THERE'S A LITTLE BIT OF HALFWAY OVERLAP BETWEEN THOSE.
UM, YEAH, AS YOU CAN SEE ON THE, ON THE COUNTYWIDE MAP THAT SHOWS ALL OF THE CRASHES COUNTYWIDE, UH, YOU CAN DEFINITELY SEE CONCENTRATIONS OF CRASHES IN THE URBANIZED AREAS ON THE FREEWAY.
UM, NOT AS MANY SEVERE CRASHES.
YOU GOT MORE FATALITIES JUST TEND TO BE OUT IN THE MORE RURAL AREAS.
UM, BUT OVERALL, JUST A, A REALLY NICE TOOL TO HAVE.
UM, THESE MAPS ARE, ARE, ARE MADE TO BE PLOTTED AND A ON A LARGE SIZE, HARD TO SEE IT ON THE SCREEN HERE.
UM, EVEN ON A, ON A BIGGER SHEET HERE THAT I HAVE IN FRONT OF ME, SO MUCH MORE EFFECTIVE WHEN THEY'RE PLOTTED OUT LARGER.
UM, IF YOU LOOK AT THE COUNTYWIDE OR THE COUNTY HIGHWAY SYSTEM MAP ONLY, UH, KIND OF KIND OF HIGHLIGHTING WHAT'S WITHIN OUR CONTROL HERE, UH, FOR THE COUNTY GOVERNMENT, UM, YOU KNOW, WHENEVER WE SEE THE, YOU KNOW, THE FATALITIES REALLY KIND OF POP OFF THE PAGE WHEN YOU LOOK AT THAT, AT LEAST IN MY OPINION.
UM, YOU KNOW, SCOTT AND I, WE, WE REVIEW THE FATALITIES WITH THE SHERIFF AS SOON AS POSSIBLE.
DAY AFTER, UH, WE LIKE TOUCH BASE AND SEE IF THERE'S ANYTHING WITHIN OUR CONTROL THAT WE COULD DO FOR ANY KIND OF SEVERE OR SIGNIFICANT CRASH OUT THERE.
UM, YOU CAN SEE A LITTLE BIT OF A CLUSTER DOWN BY, UM, HIGHWAY Q DOWN IN THE SOUTHEAST QUADRANT THERE, UM, JUST AROUND THE FREEWAY.
THAT'S ALL SHOWN IN OUR PLANS AS WELL.
UM, THAT'S JUST OUR HIGHEST VOLUME AREA ON THE COUNTY HIGHWAY SYSTEM.
UM, SO THAT NOTHING IS REAL ALARMING.
UH, AS FAR AS WHAT WE DIDN'T ALREADY KNOW WAS GOING ON, ON THE COUNTY HIGHWAY SYSTEM, WE WILL BE CREATING MAPS FOR ALL OF THE LOCAL MUNICIPALITIES.
SO ZOOMING INTO EACH TOWN, CITY, AND VILLAGE AND PRODUCING A MAP SPECIFICALLY FOR THEM, UH, THAT THEY CAN UTILIZE, THAT THEY CAN POST IN THEIR TOWN HALLS OR WHATEVER, AND GENERATE DISCUSSION FOR SAFETY.
WE WILL BE WORKING WITH THEM AS WELL FOR THE, FOR THEIR OWN INTERSECTION AND SAFETY AND ROADWAY PLANS.
UM, BUT THIS IS A REALLY GOOD STARTING POINT, JUST HAVING THIS ON THE WALL, UM, SO THEY CAN START THINKING AND START GENERATING SOME DISCUSSION.
UM, ALSO ON THE BOTTOM OF THE MAPS HERE, YOU CAN SEE THAT GRAPH.
YOU CAN ZOOM IN ON THE, ON THE GRAPHS THERE, ON EACH ONE OF THE MAPS.
UM, IF YOU LOOK AT THE COUNTYWIDE MAP THAT HAS ALL OF THE CRASHES, THE NUMBERS KEEP CLIMBING UP.
YOU'LL SEE THAT DIP IN 2020 WHEN WITH COVID GOING ON AND NOT MANY PEOPLE WERE TRAVELING, IT DECLINED PRETTY SIGNIFICANTLY THERE.
THEN IT'S BEEN PRETTY STEADY ON THE RISE.
AND THEN IF YOU LOOK AT THE COUNTY HIGHWAY SYSTEM MAP, THE ONE THAT COUNTY HIGHWAYS ONLY, IT DROPPED IN 2020 AND THEN IT HELD PRETTY STEADY, UH, FOR A COUPLE YEARS.
THERE'S A LITTLE BIT OF AN UPTICK OVER THE LAST YEAR, BUT TO ME, I THINK THAT'S A, THAT'S A, A GOOD SIGN AS FAR AS TRENDS JUST RELATIVE TO EVERYTHING ELSE GOING ON.
AND IN GENERAL, TRAFFIC VOLUMES INCREASE YEAR TO YEAR WITH HIGHER POPULATION.
SO TO ME THAT TELLS US WE'RE DOING SOMETHING, SOMETHING WELL WITHIN OUR CONTROL HERE ON OUR SYSTEM.
SO WE'RE GONNA TRY TO KEEP THAT GOING.
UM, DO YOU GUYS HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ON ANYTHING OR ANYTHING JUMP OFF THE PAGES TO YOU? NO.
SO, UH, THE ONE I FIND, UH, IN INTRIGUING AND SORT OF, UH, AND THERE'S ANECDOTAL EVIDENCE OF THIS, AND THEN I SAW WHEN I WAS ON HERE, YOU KNOW, HIGHWAY K AND 41, WHICH IS A ROUTE I TAKE PRETTY FREQUENTLY, AND I, AND I SEE ACCIDENTS, BUT YET THAT'S A REALLY, IT'S A GOOD ROAD AND IT'S PRETTY CLEARLY MARKED AND OTHER THAN A HILL,
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BUT BOY, THERE SEEMS LIKE THERE'S A LOT OF ACCIDENTS THERE.YOU'RE TALKING ON, NOT JUST ON, YOU'RE TALKING ON HIGHWAY K.
UNFORTUNATELY THERE WAS A, A FATALITY THERE.
I BELIEVE THAT WAS A RECKLESS DRIVING, EXTREME SPEEDING SITUATION ON THAT ONE.
BUT YES, THERE'S, YOU KNOW, THERE'S, THERE'S TURNING MOVEMENTS THERE, UM, OBVIOUSLY WITH THE INTERCHANGE.
UM, YEAH, I DON'T KNOW WHY THAT'S JUST, YEAH.
BUT I MEAN, YOU LOOK AT IT AND THERE'S NEVER REALLY A LOT OF TRAFFIC THERE.
AND IT, AND IT ALWAYS SEEMS LIKE, I, I DON'T KNOW, THAT ONE'S ALWAYS STRUCK ME AS SORT OF ODD AND, AND I, I KNOW THERE'S BEEN SOME BAD, OR I'VE SEEN SOME BAD ACCIDENTS ON THERE AND I COULD NEVER FIGURE IT OUT WHAT IT WAS LIKE IF IT WAS WIND OR TOPOGRAPHY OR, YEAH.
THE SIGHT LINES ARE, ARE GOOD ON K THERE.
YOU GOT A LITTLE BIT OF A VALLEY DOWN UNDER THE HIGHWAY.
IT'S A NICE ROAD, YOU KNOW, EVERYTHING'S WIDE.
YOU GOT LONG TURN LANES, IT'S, YEAH, I DON'T GET IT.
SO IT'S JUST MORE HUMAN ERROR.
A LOT OF HUMAN ERROR OUT THERE FOR SURE.
WELL, I DON'T DIG IT, BUT WHAT IS, IS IT THAT SPEED? I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE LIMITS, I KNOW THE ROAD, BUT 45 I THINK THROUGH THERE, RIGHT? FOR K IS, OH, 50.
I THOUGHT FOR SOME REASON I THOUGHT IT WAS 45 GOING UP THROUGH THERE.
AND WE, WE DO THAT IS INCLUDED IN OUR INTERSECTION ANALYSIS.
AND SO IT MUST NOT HAVE HIT OUR TOP, YOU KNOW, 10, 15 OF THEM.
SO YEAH, IT WAS ALL RECONSTRUCTED ON THE WEST SIDE OF THAT AS WELL.
AND NOT TOO LONG AGO, THAT WHOLE STRETCH HAS BEEN RESURFACED.
AND PHYSICALLY I THINK THE ROAD IS WHAT IT NEEDS TO BE OUT THERE.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? SO I THINK, UH, JUST TO KIND OF PUT A, PUT A BOW ON THIS TOPIC, UM, WE WILL BE HOSTING A, IT'S CALLED A ROADWAY TRANSPORTATION DISCUSSION WITH ALL LOCAL GOVERNMENTS.
I SENT AN EMAIL, THE INVITE WENT OUT PROBABLY A HALF HOUR BEFORE THIS MEETING, SO I SENT IT OUT TO EVERY SINGLE MUNICIPALITY.
UH, THIS COMMITTEE WAS INCLUDED ON THAT AS WELL WITH SEVERAL OTHER PEOPLE.
SO WE, ON APRIL 16TH, UM, AT 9:00 AM WE HOST THIS MEETING.
IT'S SAID WE, IT'S AN ANNUAL THING.
WE HAVE A REALLY PRODUCTIVE DISCUSSION WITH ANYBODY THAT, THAT DOES ATTEND THAT.
UM, AND THIS WILL BE ONE OF THE TOPICS THAT WE GO OVER, UM, AS WELL AS OUR INTERSECTION ROADWAY SAFETY PLANS, THESE MAPS, UM, AND GENERATE DISCUSSION THERE AS WELL.
SO IF YOU CAN MAKE THAT, THAT'S, THAT'S GREAT.
SINCE WE COVER A LOT OF THINGS IN THAT MEETING.
THIS IS JUST ONE, ONE ITEM ON A LONG LIST.
UM, BUT IT'S A, IT'S A REALLY GOOD PRODUCTIVE DISCUSSION THAT WE HAVE THAT DAY.
REAL QUICK, UM, WHEN YOU TALKED ABOUT, UH, SHARING THESE MAPS WITH THE LOCAL MUNICIPALITIES, IS THAT PART OF THE SHARED SERVICES? OR IS THIS JUST ABOVE AND BEYOND SOMETHING? WE'VE, WE'VE, WE'VE BEEN DOING THIS, SO THESE MAPS ARE, ARE CREATED EVERY FEW YEARS.
UM, WE JUST, WHENEVER WE TALK TO MIKE, HEY, CAN YOU UPDATE THE CRASH SEVERITY MAPS EVERY, EVERY FEW YEARS IN GENERAL, UM, THEN WE, WE CREATE 'EM, HE JUST KIND OF CROPS IT DOWN INTO EACH MUNICIPALITY MM-HMM
WE JUST SEND A-P-D-F-I EMAIL IT TO HIM.
SO IT'S NOT PART OF THE SHARED SERVICE.
IT'S, WE'VE BEEN DOING THIS SEVERAL YEARS.
AND THEY REALLY APPRECIATE THAT.
ANYTHING ELSE, SCOTT? YES, IF I COULD JUST, UH, THANK JOSH TO, JOSH IS OUR TRAFFIC SAFETY COORDINATOR FOR WASHINGTON COUNTY.
HE DOES A GREAT JOB OF, OF LOOKING AT THIS AND LOOKING AT THAT DATA.
AND IT, IT'S NOT JUST A MAP THAT JUST GETS PUT ON A SHELF, IF, YOU KNOW, FROM OUR SAFETY ANALYSIS THAT WE'VE DONE BEFORE.
AND IF I COULD JUST PULL YOUR ATTENTION TO THE SCREEN JUST SO YOU CAN, IF YOU WANNA LOOK AT THAT, UH, WHAT IT HAS, THE CIRCLES ARE THE FEWER CRASHES SMALL CIRCLES, THE BIGGER THE CRASH, THE MORE CRASHES THAT ARE HAPPENING THERE.
AND THE, THE GREEN FOR THIS INSTANCE ARE PROPERTY DAMAGE ONLY.
SO YOU SEE, YES, ALONG HIGHWAY QUEUE, THERE'S QUITE A FEW CRASHES, BUT YOU CAN SEE AGAIN THAT LOOKING THING, IT'S MORE GREEN, WHICH MEANS MORE PROPERTY DAMAGE AND LESS INJURY ACCIDENT.
SO IT'S WHEN WE START LOOKING AT THAT, THAT CIRCLE, AND WHEN THAT CIRCLE GETS MORE MAGENTA VERSUS GREEN IS WHEN WE START LIKE, OKAY, NOW THERE'S REALLY A PROBLEM HERE.
AND WE START FOCUSING ON THOSE FIRST AND THEN WE WORKING OUR WAY OUT FROM THERE.
SO LIKE, UH, FOR INSTANCE, KIND M AND F, WE DID A FOUR-WAY STOP THERE SEVERAL YEARS AGO WHEN WE DID RECONSTRUCTION, BECAUSE YOU CAN SEE AGAIN THAT WAS BASICALLY CALL IT 50 50 OF CRASHES WITH INJURIES CRASH WITHOUT.
AND THAT'S WHY THOSE KIND OF RACE TO THE TOP MORE OF URGENCY THAN A COUPLE FENDER BEERS THAT MIGHT HAPPEN AT A ROUNDABOUT OR LIKE IN COUNTY OF Q, WHICH HAS JUST SO MUCH TRAFFIC AT IT.
SO A LOT OF THESE SPOTS WE'VE ALREADY DONE TREATMENTS THAT THIS MIGHT REFLECT DATA THAT'S BEFORE WE'VE MADE IMPROVEMENTS.
AND SOME THINGS MIGHT BE BRAND NEW THAT TIME WILL TELL.
SO HOPEFULLY THEY'LL GET BETTER IN CERTAIN AREAS THAT WE FIXED.
IF YOU LOOK AT THE, THE ROUNDABOUT BY QN 1 64, IT'S GOT A, A, ONE OF THE LARGER GREEN CIRCLES ON OUR COUNTY HIGHWAYS DOWN THERE.
BUT YOU CAN SEE THE MOST OF THE CIRCLE IS GREEN.
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WHERE WE'D LOVE TO ELIMINATE ALL CRASHES, IT'S, IT'S MUCH MORE IMPORTANT TO ELIMINATE THE FATALITIES AND INJURY CRASHES FIRST.IS THAT JUST PEOPLE LEARNING HOW TO USE A ROUNDABOUT? I MEAN, I THINK OF A LOT OF CRASHES HAVE TO DO WITH PATIENTS AND WELL, THAT TOO, LOOKING BOTH WAYS.
RATHER AND DISTRACTION BEAT THIS TRUCK RIGHT.
BUT NO, I'VE, I'VE SEEN PEOPLE LIKE SIT THERE NOT SURE HOW TO, OKAY, WHAT AM I DOING HERE? RIGHT.
I THINK IT'S GETTING BETTER FOR ROUNDABOUTS.
I I THINK PEOPLE ARE STARTING TO GET FAMILIAR WITH THEM, BUT IT DOES TAKE TIME.
I THINK THE DISTRACTION OF THE CELL PHONE IS OUT STILL OUTWEIGHING THE KNOWLEDGE OF ROUNDABOUTS.
COULD BE, SEEMS TO BE A COMMON FACTOR.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? IS THAT ALL THEN, JOSH? THAT IS IT.
UH, ITEM NUMBER E MASTER PLAN UPDATE REPORT.
BE HONEST, I'VE BEEN HEARING AN AWFUL LOT ABOUT THIS LATELY.
UH, SO BE A REPEAT FOR THE CHAIR.
UH, AND SO, UH, THIS COMMITTEE MIGHT RECALL THAT THERE IS, UH, THAT THE COUNTY BOARD CHAIR CREATED A, A, A BUILDING COMMITTEE TO LOOK AT THE REMODELING.
THIS BUILDING, UH, THE COUNTY BOARD OBVIOUSLY JUST RECENTLY, UH, APPROVED THE FUNDING FOR IT, THE BORROWING FOR THIS PROJECT.
AND SO WE ARE, WE'RE IN FULL SWING RIGHT NOW.
AND, UH, THE PLAN YOU SEE IN, IN THE PACKET HAS BEEN SEEN BY THE BUILDING COMMITTEE IN JANUARY, FEBRUARY, AND IN MARCH NOW.
SO, UH, WE'RE REALLY STARTING TO NARROW DOWN, UH, THE FOOTPRINT OF THE BUILDING.
UH, THE EXECUTIVE COMMITTEE TOOK UP LAST NIGHT WHETHER THE, UH, CLINIC SHOULD BE ON CAMPUS OR NOT, AND THE DECISION WAS TO KEEP THE CLINIC, UH, ON CAMPUS.
SO, UH, THE CLINIC WILL GO ON THE, THE SECOND FLOOR IN THIS BUILDING.
WE ARE CONSIDERED THE FIRST FLOOR, EVEN THOUGH IT'S IN THE QUOTE UNQUOTE IN THE BASEMENT.
THIS IS FIRST FLOOR, SECOND FLOOR IS ABOVE US, THIRD FLOOR ABOVE THAT.
AND SO, WITHOUT GOING INTO A LOT OF DETAIL, BUT WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT DOING AND, AND WHY WE'RE LOOKING AT DOING THIS, WHICH I I KNOW YOU'RE ALL FAMILIAR, IS TO, UH, A IS CREATE THAT SECURITY CHECKPOINT FOR FOOT TRAFFIC COMING TO THE BUILDING.
UH, B IS TO GET ONE CENTRAL LOCATION OF PEOPLE COMING IN.
AND I'LL PICK UP AND IN THE HALLWAY JUST BEFORE WE, WE STARTED THIS MEETING, THERE WAS A GENTLEMAN WHO COULDN'T FIND HIS WAY.
UM, AND I, WHO CAME OUT THERE AND MR. MR. S SPOCK WAS, UH, UH, KIND ENOUGH TO STOP HIM.
AND I CAME OUT THERE TO HELP HIM.
AND JUST TO ANECDOTALLY OF PEOPLE THAT GET VERY CONFUSED IN THIS BUILDING BY COMING IN ONE DOOR AND HAVING TO GO ALL THE WAY THROUGH THE BUILDING TO THE OTHER AND HAVING A, A NICE MAIN ENTRANCE, I THINK, UH, SPEAKS VOLUME THAT JUST HAPPENS TO HAPPEN RIGHT BEFORE OUR MEETING AND HAVE A, OUR MAIN FOOT TRAFFIC, UH, DEPARTMENTS BEING AT THAT MAIN ENTRANCE BEING EITHER THE JUSTICE CENTER OR THE CLERK REGISTERED DEEDS OR TREASURER.
SO, UH, VERY IMPORTANT TO GET THEM IN ONE CENTRALIZED LOCATION.
UH, ALSO WE LOOKED AT THAT JURY ROOM.
UH, THE BUILDING IS CURRENTLY BE USED FOR VOTING.
UH, IF YOU DON'T KNOW, THE CITY WEST BEND UTILIZES THIS BUILDING FOR, FOR VOTING PURPOSES, UH, ROOM 2024, RIGHT ABOVE THIS, UH, SECOND FLOOR BY THE COUNTY CLERK.
UH, SO THEY'RE LOOKING AT THAT IN THE, ORIGINALLY IT WAS LOOKING AT HAVING THAT JURY ROOM ALSO BE AVAILABLE FOR VOTING PURPOSES THAT PEOPLE ARE COMING AND VOTING DOING THERE.
AND WE'RE ADJUSTING THE, UH, THE LOBBY AREA WHERE SECURITY COMES THROUGH TO ALLOW FOR VOTING.
SO WHEN THEY COME TO VOTE, THEY DON'T HAVE TO GO THROUGH SECURITY.
SO, UH, THAT IS A TOPIC OF, UH, GOOD DISCUSSION AT THE, UH, BUILDING COMMITTEE.
AND THEN THEY'LL PROBABLY HAVE A LITTLE MORE DISCUSSION ON THAT IF THEY WANNA CONTINUE THAT PRACTICE OF VOTING OR NOT IN THE BUILDING.
I THINK THAT'LL COME BACK BEFORE THEM ONE LAST TIME BEFORE WE HAVE TO FINALIZE THE PLANS AND MOVE ON.
I DID HAVE SOME GREAT CONVERSATION WITH THE SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT EARLIER TODAY ABOUT SECURITY.
UH, THERE WAS A, A GOOD DISCUSSION AGAIN WITH THE BUILDING COMMITTEE ON SECURITY ON MONDAY.
UM, AND AS LONG AS WE KEEP OUR CONFIGURATION OF, OF ACCESS POINTS, WHAT WE DO RIGHT NOW TO GET FROM THIS BUILDING TO THE JUSTICE CENTER, YOU HAVE TO GO THROUGH SETS OF DOORS THAT HAVE KEY CARD ACCESS TO THEM.
AND AS LONG AS WE KEEP THOSE KEY CARD ACCESSES, THE SHERIFF IS TENTATIVE AGREEMENT THAT THERE'S RULES FOR THE JUSTICE CENTER, WHAT CAN GO IN AND OUTTA THE JUSTICE CENTER.
AND IT RULES FOR THE GOVERNMENT CENTER, WHICH IS THIS BUILDING, WHICH COULD BE SEPARATE AND DIFFERENT.
UH, SO FOR INSTANCE, IF SOMEONE WANTED TO BRING A WATER BOTTLE INTO JUSTICE CENTER, THE JUDGES SAID, THE JUDGES HAVE ALL SAID, THERE'S NO EATING AND DRINKING IN THE JUSTICE CENTER.
AND NOW SOMEONE COMES THROUGH SECURITY AND WANTS TO COME OVER TO, LET'S SAY, THIS MEETING, FOR INSTANCE, IN IN THE AUDIENCE AND WANTS TO BRING THEIR WATER BOTTLE WITH THEM.
UH, THAT'S SOMETHING THAT THE SHERIFF WOULD POTENTIALLY BE AMENABLE TO GOING, OKAY, IN THIS, THIS BUILDING BECAUSE IT'S SEPARATE BUILDING, UM, THAT MIGHT BE A LAW AND FEASIBLE.
AND THAT THEN THE DECISION ON WHAT IS ALLOWED THROUGH SECURITY WOULD BE UP TO THE COUNTY BOARD.
UH, SO WE'RE GONNA BE STARTING TO WORK WITH THE COUNTY ATTORNEY ON WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE IN THE PROCESS.
YOU ALREADY DO HAVE SOME REGULATIONS IN PLACE RIGHT NOW, IS MY UNDERSTANDING.
SO JUST A MATTER OF WHAT YOU WANNA ALLOW AND DON'T ALLOW IN THIS BUILDING.
SO FOR INSTANCE, THE, AGAIN, THERE'S PUBLIC SIDE FACING AND, AND PRIVATE SIDE FACING.
SO ON THIS FLOOR, UH, ON THE PLAN, YOU'LL SEE A LIGHT YELLOW, UM, THAT WOULD BE THE PUBLIC HALLWAY.
AND THERE WOULD BE A SET OF DOORS, AGAIN, RIGHT OUTSIDE, HALFWAY THROUGH THE BOARDROOM.
SO THE, THIS WOULD BE EMPLOYEE AND BASICALLY COUNTY BOARD MEMBERS ONLY COMING IN THROUGH THE NEW WEST ENTRANCE.
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AND SO AGAIN, YOU'D HAVE A, A SECURE AREA AND THEN AN AREA THAT WHERE THE PUBLIC WENT THROUGH SECURITY TO GET TO THE COUNTY BOARDROOM, WE'VE ALLOWED TO DO THAT.SO THE BOARD MEMBERS WOULD ENTER AND EXIT THROUGH THE DOOR, UH, TO MY LEFT.
AND THE PUBLIC WOULD ENTER THROUGH THE, EXCUSE ME, JOSH, THROUGH THE DOOR, UH, TO MY RIGHT, UH, TO ALLOW FOR THAT.
AND THEN, UH, IT ALSO ALLOWS US THEN TO HAVE THE DIFFERENT RESTRICTIONS ON THE BUILDING.
SO IF THE COUNTY BOARD WAS SOANE TO SAY WE WANT TO HAVE CONCEALED CARRY FOR STAFF AND COUNTY BOARD MEMBERS, YOU COULD DO THAT BECAUSE WE ARE SEPARATE TWO DIFFERENT BUILDINGS.
IF WE HAD FREE ACCESS BETWEEN US AND JUSTICE CENTER, THEN THAT WOULD NOT BE ALLOWED.
AND SO THAT'S THE DECISION POINTS THAT WILL COME BACK TO THE THING.
AND AGAIN, WE ALLOW CONCEALED CARRY IN THIS BUILDING CURRENTLY.
AND, BUT IF YOU WANNA CHANGE THAT, THAT'S THE BOARD'S PURVIEW TO DO THAT, UH, BY ALLOWING THAT, THAT CAR KEY TO ACCESS BETWEEN HERE AND THIS BUILDING.
SO THERE'S BEEN A LOT OF MOVEMENT ON THIS JUST SINCE MONDAY, UM, ALREADY GOING, GOING FORWARD.
SO, SO AGAIN, SO YOU'RE LOOKING AT THE, THERE WOULD BE A ROOM BEHIND ME THAT WOULD BE A, A CONFERENCE ROOM, AGAIN, A ROOM THAT THE CLERK COULD POTENTIALLY USE THAT DURING VOTING.
SHE USES 2024, UH, FOR NOT JUST VOTING, BUT THEN THE BALLOTS AND THAT KINDA STUFF.
OR AS NICE, UH, SECURE ROOM THERE THAT SHE COULD POTENTIALLY USE THAT'S NOT TOO FAR AWAY FROM HER BUILDING.
AGAIN, COMING IN THE MAIN LOBBY, UH, WHICH IS A PURPLE.
UH, AND THEN COMING INTO THE COUNTY CLERK'S OFFICE, THE TREASURY REGISTERED RIGHT AFTER THAT.
UH, THEN YOU CAN STILL COME DOWN TO THE BOARD AND THEN FACILITIES WOULD BE BASICALLY ACROSS THE HALL OF WHERE WE'RE AT RIGHT NOW.
UM, SO THAT KINDA GIVES YOU A FLAVOR FOR WHAT THE FIRST FLOOR WOULD LOOK LIKE.
AGAIN, NOT TOUCHING THIS BOARDROOM, NOT TOUCHING THE RESTROOMS 'CAUSE THEY WERE JUST RECENTLY REDONE.
UH, AS FAR AS A, A PROJECT FOR MAKE SURE WE ARE A DA COMPLIANT, THE NEXT FLOOR UP, WHICH WE CALL, OH, THIS IS NOT GONNA BE USED BECAUSE WE'RE KEEPING FACILITIES ON THE MAIN FLOOR.
UH, THEN THE NEXT FLOOR UP WE WILL BE LOOKING AT PAGE 27.
UH, THAT'S WHERE THE CLINIC IS ON THERE.
THAT'S WHERE THE CLINIC ON THE LEFT SIDE IS YELLOW, IS WHAT YOU WANNA BE LOOKING FOR ON THAT SET OF PLANS.
UM, AND SO ON THE SECOND FLOOR, UH, COMING INTO WEST ENTRANCE, LIKE YOU, MOST PEOPLE, UH, DO FOR THIS MEETING.
UH, THE CLINIC WOULD BE ON YOUR LEFT SIDE.
SO YEP, WE WANNA MAKE SURE THE CLINIC IS ON THE LEFT HAND SIDE.
UH, WE'D HAVE A BREAK ROOM AND A CONFERENCE ROOM ON THE RIGHT HAND SIDE OR SOUTHERN SIDE.
WHEN YOU COME IN, THAT'S THE OLD COUNTY BOARD CHAIRS ROOM.
AND THERE'S A KIND OF A VESTIBULE IN THAT AREA.
AND THEN ONCE YOU PASS THAT, YOU GOT THE CLERK'S AREA ON THE RIGHT, THE TREASURER AND THE, UH, PURCHASING AGENTS ARE IN THAT PROCESS.
SO BASICALLY THE SOUTHERN HALF OF THE BUILDING WOULD BE IT, AND GIS WOULD BE IN THAT GRAY LOCATION.
NATURAL RESOURCES FROM ACROSS THE STREET TO PUBLIC AGENT CENTER WOULD GO WHERE THE CURRENT TREASURER AND REGISTERED DEEDS ARE LOCATED.
SO THEY'LL BE LOCATED OVER ACROSS THE STREET.
THERE'LL BE SOME SLIGHT MODIFICATIONS.
THE DISTRICT ATTORNEY, WE'VE BEEN WORKING WITH A NEW DISTRICT ATTORNEY ON MODIFICATIONS THE AREA TO CREATE AN EXTRA OFFICE IN THERE AND ENSURING THAT THEIR CUBICLES CURRENTLY WORK, UH, WITHIN THEIR AREA.
WE HAVE SOME STORAGE, UH, FOR IT USE.
AND THEN COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT, WHICH IS AGAIN, ACROSS THE STREET IN THE PUBLIC AGENTS CENTER.
THEY'RE CURRENTLY HOUSED WITH NATURAL RESOURCES, BUT THEY'RE NOW IN A LOCATION THAT'S RIGHT NEAR NATURAL RESOURCES.
AND AGAIN, THE, THE MAIN STAIRWELL AND THE ELEVATOR IN THAT LOCATION, AGAIN, TRYING TO GET THE PUBLIC FACING ONES, UH, GIS AND THE, IT DON'T HAVE TOO MANY PEOPLE COMING IN FROM THE GENERAL PUBLIC TO TALK TO OUR, THAT STAFF.
AND SO AGAIN, WE HAVE TO MAKE SURE THAT THE PUBLIC FACING ONES ARE ON THE, THE SECOND FLOOR AND AVAILABLE TO THEM IN A CONFERENCE ROOM BACK THERE.
SO AGAIN, SOME MODIFICATION, QUITE A FEW MODIFICATIONS TO THE SECOND FLOOR OF THIS BUILDING.
THE THIRD FLOOR OF THE MAJOR MODIFICATIONS ARE GOING TO THE CLERK OF COURTS OFFICE.
UM, THEY HAVE DONE A FANTASTIC JOB OF CONSOLIDATING A LOT OF THEIR PAPER AND TO DIGITAL COPIES, SO WE'RE VERY APPRECIATIVE OF THAT.
SO, UH, THEY WERE THIS LARGER AREA HERE AND YOU CAN SEE THEIR AREA REDUCES BY, UH, MAYBE JUST UNDER A QUARTER OR SO.
UM, AND SO, UH, THAT NICE TO HAVE A NICE CONFERENCE ROOM THAT'S A LITTLE LARGER UP THERE, THAT HR, WHICH IS RIGHT NEXT TO IT, COULD UTILIZE FOR TRAINING OF STAFF, UM, AS WELL AS NEW, NEW, UH, STAFF THAT'S COMING ON BOARD FOR THEIR ONBOARDING PROCESS.
UH, SO WE DO SOME MODIFICATIONS THERE.
AND THEN THERE'S NICE LONG HALLWAY SO THAT IF STAFF WANTS TO GET FROM ONE PLACE ANOTHER, AGAIN, WE'LL HAVE TO HAVE A DOOR, UH, BETWEEN THERE, WHICH WILL PROBABLY BE IN, UH, HALF ABOUT A QUARTER OF THE WAY DOWN THE HALLWAY AS WELL, UH, TO SEPARATE AGAIN, THE JUSTICE CENTER FROM THE GOVERNMENT CENTER.
UH, BUT ALLOWING FOR, FOR ACCESS FOR STAFF TO GET FROM ONE LOCATION TO THE OTHER.
UH, THE PUBLIC WOULD AGAIN BE OPEN TO THE YELLOW AREA.
AND THE AREA WHICH, WHICH DIDN'T GET COLORED BROWN ON THIS, UH, WOULD THEN BE BE, UH, UH, PRIVATE SIDE OR EMPLOYEE SIDE FACING.
WHAT THAT ALLOWS TO IS THAT IT ALLOWS FOR MOST OF THE STAFF, LIKE HR CAN HAVE A, A PUBLIC ENTRANCE, BUT THEN THEY'D ALSO HAVE A PRIVATE ENTRANCE IF THEY NEED TO.
UH, THERE'S SOME KIND OF SOMETHING GOING ON IN THE BUILDING THAT'S MAJOR, LIKE ACTIVE SHOOTERS, SOMETHING
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LIKE THAT.THEY HAVE A WAY TO GET, UH, ON THE, ON THE, THE, UH, PRIVATE SIDE OR EMPLOYEE SIDE ONLY OUT OF THAT BUILDING.
AND WE ALSO BE LOOKING AT SOME MODIFICATIONS, UH, TO THE EXEC EXECUTIVE AND BOARD SUITE.
UH, WE'D CREATE A, A ROOM AT THE END OF THE HALLWAY WHERE THERE'S A, A BREAK ROOM THERE FOR THE COUNTY BOARD CHAIR POTENTIALLY, AND AN OFFICE FOR HIS STAFF.
AND THEN A CONFERENCE ROOM DESIGNATED JUST FOR THEM SO THAT, UM, IF FOR SOME DAY THE COUNTY BOARD CHAIR AND COUNTY EXECUTIVE, UH, DON'T GET ALONG
UM, AND WHICH DOES HAPPEN SOME OTHER COUNTIES, UH, THERE'S AN EASY SEPARATION THERE OF THE EXECUTIVE BRANCH VERSUS LEGISLATIVE BRANCH, UH, BY SIMPLY JUST ADDING IN A A FEW WALLS AND DOORS.
UH, IT MAKES THAT SEPARATION PRETTY QUICK AND PAINLESS RIGHT NOW.
UH, THAT THEY WOULD HAVE THEIR OWN BREAK AREA, CONFERENCE ROOM, UM, STAFF, AS WELL AS THEIR OWN CONFERENCE ROOM AS WELL.
AND SO THERE'S SOME COMMENTS ABOUT THERE.
THAT CONFERENCE ROOM SHOULD BE, HAVE THE DOOR FACING, UH, THE HALLWAY OR INSIDE AND WE'LL BE WORKING WITH THE BACARDI BOARD CHAIR ON, ON THAT MATTER.
AND IT'S GOTTA ZOOM IN A LITTLE WAYS ON THAT.
BUT, UH, SOME OF THE DETAILS OF SHOULD THIS PEOPLE STAFF COME IN HERE AND COME IN THAT WAY, OR SHOULD THE DOOR BE ON THE OUTSIDE? SO WE'LL WORK WITH THE COUNTY BOARD CHAIR AND, UM, IT DOESN'T MATTER TO US MUCH WAY, WHICH WAY THE DOOR IS.
SO OUTSIDE OF THE EFFECT THAT, IF I RECALL, YEAH, IT'S MORE DIFFICULT TO PUT A DOOR IN THE HALLWAY CORRECT, BECAUSE OF THE, IT'S A LITTLE MORE CHALLENGING BECAUSE OF THE 'CAUSE OF THE CONSTRUCTION, CORRECT.
BUT, BUT WE WILL WORK WITH THEM AND, AND MAKE SURE WE HAVE SOMETHING THAT, THAT IS MANAGEABLE AND WORKS FOR THEM.
SO THAT'S KIND OF IT IN A NUTSHELL.
WE'RE DOING SOME MODIFICATIONS TO THE PARKING LOT AS WELL.
UH, UH, WE GOT THE DRAFTS THAT ARE THOSE PLANS ON MONDAY.
UH, SO WE'RE WORKING ON THAT TO GET A LITTLE MORE PARKING, A LITTLE CLOSER PARKING ON THE EAST SIDE OF THIS BUILDING, UH, TO MAKE IT MORE FEET MORE, UM, ACCESSIBLE TO THAT.
AND WE WORK WITH THE SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT AS WELL.
I DO WANNA ALSO GO BACK TO THE SECOND FLOOR, UM, WITH THIS AREA HERE.
UH, WE WERE WORKED WITH THE SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT THIS MORNING AND, UH, VERY HAPPY THAT THAT, UH, UH, OF THE CONVERSATION WE HAD WITH THEM, UH, THAT THEY WOULD ALLOW THE CLINIC, AS YOU KNOW, THE CLINIC IS AVAILABLE FOR ALL STAFF AND, AND THEIR FAMILY MEMBERS.
AND WE'RE WORKING ON A SYSTEM THAT INSTEAD OF THE FAMILY MEMBERS COMING THROUGH, THE MAIN SECURITY, YOU CAN IMAGINE, UH, INDIVIDUAL NEXT TO ME HAS MAYBE FOUR CHILDREN, AND SOME OF 'EM MAY BE YOUNG ENOUGH IN A STROLLER AND HAVING TO BRING ALL THEM THROUGH SECURITY FIRST AND ALL THE WAY TO THE OTHER END OF THE BUILDING, UH, THE SHERIFF IS, IS, UH, AGREEABLE OF A SYSTEM THAT MIGHT BE WHERE WE HAVE THEM, A CAR KEY ACCESS WHERE THEY ONLY CAN GET IN THAT DOOR AND MAYBE A, I'LL CALL IT LIKE A RING DOORBELL TYPE SYSTEM WHERE THEY COULD, UM, EITHER ACCESS THEMSELF IN, BUT THEY FORGOT THEIR CARD, THEY COULD HIT THE, THE DOORBELL, IT SHOULD GO RIGHT TO THE CLINIC AND SAY, I'M HERE FOR MY 10 O'CLOCK APPOINTMENT.
THEY CAN VERIFY THE PERSON'S NAME SO THEY'RE NOT LETTING JUST ANYBODY IN THAT DOOR.
UH, SO WE'RE WORKING ON THE FINE DETAILS ON THAT, BUT I THINK THAT, UH, IF WE LOOK AT INCREASING USE OF OUR CLINIC, UH, NOT HAVING THEM GO THROUGH SECURITY, UH, MAYBE HAVING EVEN PARK EVEN FURTHER AWAY, UM, WOULD BE, UH, HOPEFULLY A STEP IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION.
AND, AND AGAIN, THEY'D ONLY HAVE REALLY ACCESS TO GET THROUGH THAT ONE DOOR.
UM, THE OTHER DOORS WOULD ALSO BE HAVE CAR KEYED ACCESS TOO, SO THEY CAN'T GET ANYWHERE ELSE IN THE BUILDING.
SO IF YOU HAD A DISGRUNTLED, UM, SPOUSE, THEY CAN ONLY GET IN THE DOOR AND THEN, BUT NOT INTO ANY OF THE OFFICES INSIDE THAT, THAT SPACE.
RESTROOMS CERTAINLY, BUT BUT NOT IN THE OTHER, ANY OTHER OFFICES.
SO, UM, AREN'T WE PUTTING A FENCE AROUND THIS OR GATING THAT PARKING LOT UP? NO, UH, IT WAS DE DETERMINED AND WE, WE KIND OF BRIEFLY TOUCHED ON THAT THE FIRST MEETING BACK IN JANUARY.
OF, OF, OF NOT DOING THAT, NOT DOING THAT.
WE WOULD PROBABLY ELIMINATE THE, THE, THE DRIVE OFF OF 33 WOULD BE IN A SHORT TERM, MAYBE A SIX MONTH PERIOD WITH ENOUGH SIGNAGE TO GET PEOPLE TO GET INTO THE RIGHT DIRECTION.
SO NOT EVERYBODY'S COMING UP AND RINGING THAT DOORBELL AND COMING UP AND COMING UP AND COMING UP.
AND SO STAFF WOULD STILL COME THROUGH THE, THE, UH, WILSON AVENUE.
IT WOULD STILL STAY OPEN 'CAUSE THE SCHOOL'S GONNA STAY OPEN UNTIL 27.
AND SO THAT, UH, THERE'S ACTUALLY, IF YOU'VE EVER BEEN THERE AT THREE O'CLOCK OR THREE 30, UH, YOU KNOW, THERE'S QUITE A FEW STAFF, UH, EXCUSE ME, UH, PEOPLE THAT ARE DROPPING THEIR KIDS OFF OR PICKING THEM UP THAT PARK IN OUR PARKING LOT, PARKING LOT.
THEY JUST HAVE TO COME THROUGH WILSON INSTEAD JETTING THROUGH THE PARKING LOT.
SO WE WANNA MAKE SURE WE'RE CUTTING THAT OFF FOR THE SHORT TERM, GETTING PEOPLE GOING IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION UNTIL THEY'RE GOOGLE AND WAYS AND EVERYTHING ELSE CATCHES UP WITH THAT.
AND, AND WE FIND THAT, SO NOT EVERYBODY'S COMING OUTTA THEIR, THEIR CAR BECAUSE PEOPLE DON'T GO TO REGISTERED DEEDS OFFICE TOO OFTEN.
THEY DON'T GO TO THE KIRK'S OFFICE TOO OFTEN THAT THEY'LL KNOW IT RIGHT AWAY.
SO, LIKE I SAID, WE'LL HAVE THAT BLOCKED OFF FOR SEVERAL MONTHS.
AND THEN AGAIN, IF THERE'S A VOTING THING TOO, TO GET 'EM, YOU GOTTA GO THROUGH THE OTHER ENTRANCE.
SO TRY TO NOT UPSET THEM, UH, VERY MUCH.
BUT, UH, AGAIN, WE'LL WORK WITH GOOGLE AND ALL THOSE, UH, WAY FINDING APPLICATIONS TO GET THEM OVER THERE AS QUICKLY AS WE CAN.
UH, BUT AGAIN, PEOPLE ARE CREATURE TO HAVE IT RIGHT.
IF THEY WENT AND GOT A PAID THEIR TAX BILL THREE YEARS AGO, THEY'RE GONNA WANT TO GO TO THE SAME PLACE THEY
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PAID THEIR TAX BILL OR GOT THEIR PASSPORT OR GO INTO A PASSPORT RENEWAL.SO IT, IT'LL BE A LEARNING CURVE, BUT WE'RE GONNA TRY TO GET THEM DIRECT IN THE RIGHT LOCATION SO AT LEAST THEY WANT TO GET OUTTA THE CAR, GET FRUSTRATED, GO INTO THE DOOR JUST TO SEE A SIGN THAT SAYS, YEAH, DRIVE AROUND.
NOW THEY GOTTA GO ALL THE WAY OUT TO WILSON AND BACK TO INDIANA AND, AND AROUND, SO.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? SCENE? NONE.
SHARED RIDE TAXI POLICIES AND PROCEDURES.
AND I'M ASSUMING THIS IS JUST A CLEANUP, RIGHT? FOR THE MOST PART? YES.
A MOTION FROM SUPERVISOR SALICK.
SO, UH, SO WE UPDATED IN THIS UPDATE TO THE POLICIES AND PROCEDURES FOR TRANSIT.
UH, WE'VE HAD SOME QUESTIONS ABOUT WHAT AGENCY FAIRS ARE, SO I JUST WANTED TO INCLUDE THAT IN THE POLICIES AND PROCEDURES SINCE THEY ARE MENTIONED AS A, A FAIR TYPE.
SO I JUST INCLUDE THE DEFINITION OF AN AGENCY FAIR, UH, WHICH IS WHAT, UH, LIKE A STATE ORGANIZATION WOULD PAY ON BEHALF OF SOMEONE THAT THE PERSON THEMSELVES, THEY DO NOT PAY THE, THE FAIR.
SO JUST WANNA CLARIFY THAT IN THE POLICIES AND, UH, PROCEDURES THEN AS WELL AS UPDATE THE, UH, HOURS OF OPERATION, UH, IT'S ALREADY, UH, IN EFFECT, BUT JUST ADDING IT TO THE DOCUMENT ITSELF OF THE POLICIES AND PROCEDURES.
AND AS WELL AS, UH, AREA OF SERVICE I NOTICED IN THE POLICIES AND PROCEDURES, DESPITE THE CHANGE IN 2021 WITH THE MOU FOR, UH, THE CROSS COUNTY PROGRAM, UH, IT WAS NOT INCLUDED IN THE AREA OF SERVICE IN THE POLICIES AND PROCEDURES.
SO JUST INCLUDING THAT IN THE AREA OF SERVICE, UH, SECTION, UH, TO INCLUDE OZAKI COUNTY INTO OZAKI COUNTY TO THE AREA OF SERVICE.
SO, UH, ANY MODIFICATIONS TO POLICIES AND PROCEDURES REQUIRE APPROVAL OF A PUBLIC WORKS COMMITTEE.
ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? SEEING NONE ALL APPROVED, SAY AYE.
UH, 2025 RESOLUTION COUNTY HIGHWAY C DISCONTINUANCE OF RIGHT AWAY.
ANY, ANYBODY WANNA JUMP IN?
I, I'M, I'M POSITIVE THAT THE PUBLIC WORKS COMMITTEE KNOWS THAT ANYTIME WE HAVE ACCESS RIGHT AWAY, WE'RE LOOKING AT GETTING IT, UH, BACK ON THE TAX ROLLS.
WE'RE POTENTIALLY EVEN GETTING PAID FOR IT.
UH, THE UNFORTUNATE THING IS WE, THE WAY THE RIGHT AWAY IS OBTAINED, WE'RE NOT GONNA GET PAID FOR IT ON THIS TIME, BUT IT WILL BE GOING BACK IN THE TAX ROLLS.
SO THERE IS SOME STILL POSITIVE GAIN FROM WASHINGTON COUNTY.
UH, SO YOU'LL SEE ON THE, ON THE SCREEN UP ABOVE AND IN YOUR PACKET, UH, BIBB ANDER'S RESTAURANT, WHICH IS IN CEDAR CREEK, IS IN THE LEFT HAND, LOWER LEFT HAND CORNER.
UH, KIND OF CUT OFF A LITTLE BIT.
UH, THEY USED THIS AS THEIR PARKING LOT AND SO THEY CONTACTED US AND ASKED US WOULD BE WILLING TO, TO SELL THAT LAND BACK TO THEM SO THEY CAN EXPAND THEIR PARKING LOT.
UH, IF YOU LOOK IN, THERE'S SOME ROCKS IN THAT LOCATION.
THEY'VE BEEN KIND OF CREEPING INTO THE RIGHT OF WAY ALREADY A LITTLE BIT.
AND SO WE LOOKED AT THAT RIGHT AWAY AND WHAT WE COULD POTENTIALLY, UH, GIVE BACK TO THE, TO THE LANDOWNER TO GET BACK IN A TAX ROLL.
AND THAT'S THAT CROSS HATCH AREA YOU SEE THERE.
I THEN WENT AND APPROACHED THE NEIGHBOR TO THE EAST TO SEE IF THEY'D BE INTERESTED IN THAT LITTLE TRIANGULAR PIECE OF, OF LAND SINCE WE'RE DOING THE NEIGHBOR PROCESS PROPERTY.
AND WE'D STILL BE ABLE TO KEEP THAT, THAT 50 FEET OF RIGHT AWAY.
AND THEY WERE ALSO AMENABLE TO, TO TAKING ON THAT RIGHT OF AWAY.
AGAIN, THERE'S NO INITIAL COST TO THEM, BUT DOES GO BACK IN OUR TAX ROLL.
SO WE DON'T WANNA DO THAT TO THEM AND NOT KNOW THE CONSEQUENCES OF, OF TAKING OVER THAT LAND, ALBEIT A, A VERY SMALL, UH, WHEN YOU'RE ONLY TALKING A COUPLE THOUSAND SQUARE FEET OF LAND OR A THOUSAND SQUARE FEET, UM, IT DOESN'T IMPACT THE TAXES TOO TERRIBLY MUCH OVER TIME.
AND, AND WHY THIS WAS RIGHT AWAY BACK IN THE DAY.
UM, THE BLUE AREA THAT YOU SEE HERE, BEFORE WE DID THAT RECONSTRUCT PROJECT WAS ALL THE ASPHALT OUT THERE, IF YOU REMEMBER FROM SEVERAL YEARS BACK.
NOW BACK TO PRE 2017, IT WAS A MASSIVE ASPHALT OUT THERE.
UH, PEOPLE GOT CONFUSED, A LOT OF CRASHES BECAUSE YOU COULD PULL OUT AND DRIVE OFF ANYWHERE AND PARK ANYWHERE OUT THERE.
AND SO YOU CAN SEE THAT BY OUR RESTRICTING THAT ACCESS, WE'VE BEEN VERY FORTUNATE OUT THERE, UM, TO DO THAT.
NOW WE HAD SOME CITIZENS AT THE TIME, UH, BECAUSE WE DID HAVE TO MOVE THE ROADWAY OVER, BUT WE'VE BEEN VERY SUCCESSFUL OUT THERE.
AND SO WE'D BE LOOKING FOR YOUR APPROVAL.
THIS WOULD'VE TO GO TO THE COUNTY BOARD AS WELL FOR THEIR APPROVAL, UH, TO,
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TO GET THIS LAND BACK IN A TAX ROLL.AND WE, THE REASON WHY WE WE ELIMINATED IT RIGHT HERE WAS IT'S NICE FOR THESE PEOPLE THAT ARE COMING ON LILY ROAD PARKING HERE BEFORE THEY COME OUT ONTO CEDAR CREEK ROAD.
THEY CAN SEE IF SOMEONE IN A SEE IS GONNA BE MAKING THAT TURNING MOVEMENT.
AND SO THAT'S WHY WE KEPT THIS VISION AREA HERE FOR US.
AND, UM, SOMETIMES THE NEIGHBORS CUT THAT GRASS FOR US AND SOMETIMES WE HAVE TO GO OUT THERE AND CUT THE GRASS.
BUT I THINK FROM A SAFETY STANDPOINT, WE LOOKED AT IT, IT WAS, IT WAS VERY, UH, NEEDING OF US TO MAKE SURE WE KEPT THE RIGHT OF WAY THAT WE DID FOR THAT SAFETY VISION THAT, THAT THAT'S OUT THERE RIGHT NOW.
BECAUSE ONCE YOU SELL THAT LAND OR GIVE THAT LAND, THEY CAN PLANT TREES RIGHT UP TO THAT RIGHT OF WAY LINE.
AND, AND WE REALLY DON'T THINK THAT'S A, A GOOD THING TO DO.
BUT, UM, BOTH RESIDENTS WERE VERY HAPPY WITH THE PRESENTATION THAT YOU HAVE HERE TODAY AND ARE BOTH LOOKING FORWARD TO, UH, THE LAND AND, AND GETTING IT BACK IN THE TAX ROLLS.
YOU KNOW, WHEN HISTORY SERVES ME.
I THINK SCH WHEN THEY HAD THE PARKING LOT THERE, YOU NEVER KNEW WHERE THE PARKING LOT ENDED AND THE ROAD STARTED.
YOU ARE A HUNDRED PERCENT CORRECT, ESPECIALLY IN WINTER.
THEY WERE PARKING ALL OVER OF ONE IN THE MORNING.
IT WAS, UH, IT WAS KIND OF A FREE FOR ALL OUT THERE.
UM, IT, IT REALLY, THERE WAS PARKING IN FRONT OF HERE.
UM, AND SO BY ELIMINATING THAT, UM, AND, AND REALLY DEFINING ON WHERE PEOPLE CAN TRAVEL, UM, IT, IT'S BEEN A, A, A GREAT IMPROVEMENT TO THE AREA.
UH, ANY QUESTIONS FROM THE COMMITTEE? NO.
SEEING NONE, I'LL, I'LL APPROVE, SAY AYE.
ANY, UH, NAYS? MOTION CARRIES.
DATE IS, OH, I ALMOST LOST MY COMPUTER HERE.
WHACK THERE FOR, UH, MR. SALICK.
YOU'D LIKE TO BRING FORWARD THE NEXT MONTH? OH YES.
UM, YOU WANNA LOOK AT THAT? I WILL.
I'M GONNA CHANGE IT TO ONE CHIP SALES PHONE.
IS THERE A, SPEAKING OF CHIP CEILING, IS THERE ANYTHING GOING ON IN THE TOWN OF ADDISON THIS SUMMER? YEAH, WE'RE DOING CHIP CEILING WITH THEM AS PART OF OUR SHARED.
NO, WE'RE NOT DOING ANYTHING ELSE ON ANY OF OUR COUNTY ROADS THOUGH, ARE WE? AND THAT, JOSH, ARE WE DOING, WE'RE NOT DOING ANY CHIP CEILING IN ROADS IN THE TOWN OF ADDISON.
ARE WE? I GOT A MEETING WITH 'EM TONIGHT AND I ALWAYS LIKE TO BRING 'EM UP TO SEE, BUT WE ARE DOING WORK FOR THE TOWN OF MADISON.
WELL THAT, I'M SURE THEY'RE DUNNO.
WELL, I THEY KNOW THAT ALREADY.
THEY'LL HAVE AN IDEA WHAT THEY WANT YOU.
BECAUSE I JUST LIKE TO GIVE THEM ANY UPDATES IF WE'RE DOING ANY COUNTY ROADS IN THEIR DISTRICT, YOU KNOW, JUST TO GIVE 'EM A HEADS UP AGAIN AND 41.
IS THAT THEIR, IS THAT THE DISTRICT? I IS THAT, THAT MIGHT BE IN THE SOUTHERN PART OF ADDISON.
WHAT WE HAVE, I'M GONNA START WITH THIS ONE.
IT'S EASIER TO SEE BORDERLINE BETWEEN HARTFORD AND THAT.
I'M TRYING TO GIVE YOU GUYS NEXT MONTH.
SATURDAY, LIKE I SAID, JUST LIKE THE QUARTER, MORE THAN 11 TIMES HERE.
SO THEY SAID EDUCATION PURPOSES.
THE PERSON STARTED HERE AND THE DESTINATION ONLY ONE TO TWO TRIPS.
SO KEN, I'M GONNA GO TO THE RESTROOM AND I'LL TALK TO YOU WHEN I GET BACK.
AND SO WE'RE TRYING TO GET, YOU GUYS WANT TO KNOW WHERE PEOPLE ARE COMING AND GOING? YEAH.
THEN YOU HAVE THE STATION ARE RISINGS AND RAINS PATIENT HAVE DIRECT DEPARTMENTS.
KIND GET FLAVORED FOR 15 TO DARKER AND THICKER LESS.
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LAND AND PLANNING A LAND USE AND PLANNING COMMITTEE TO ORDER.UH, THE MEETING HAS BEEN PROPERLY NOTICED BY THE CLERK'S OFFICE.
PLEASE RISE AND SAY THE PLEDGE WITH ME.
I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA STATES AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS.
ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND I JUSTICE FOR ALL.
ALL RIGHT, WELL LET'S START OFF, ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS THAT ARE, UH, CONCERNS WITH THE MINUTES? ARE WE ALL GOOD ON THOSE? OKAY.
HEARING NONE, WE'LL CONSIDER THOSE AS APPROVED.
UH, IN THE CONSENT AGENDA WE HAVE, UH, THE USE OF STRATEGIC PRIORITY FUNDS FOR FAIR ENTERTAINMENT AND THE, UH, MONSANTO SETTLEMENT.
UM, ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS ON THOSE? NO, SIR.
UM, WHICH ONE WERE YOU? THE, UH, BROMFIELD.
AND I THOUGHT THAT MIGHT BE THE CASE.
IT SAYS HERE WE NEED TO HAVE A MOTION TO USE THE STRATEGIC PRIORITIES FUNDS FOR THE LEGALS ENTERTAINMENT MOTION.
UM, SO YEAH, WE'LL GET TO THAT ONE.
UM, WE'LL START WITH THE, UH, USE TO STRATEGIC, UH, PRIORITY FUNDS FOR FAIR ENTERTAINMENT.
I'LL NEED A MOTION, A SECOND MOTION.
MOTION BY CAROL MARY I SECOND.
QUESTIONS, UM, THIS IS JUST AN AGREEMENT THAT WE'VE ALREADY AGREED TO, RIGHT, JAMIE? THAT THIS IS JUST PAYING THAT OFF AND OUR CONTRACTUAL OBLIGATION.
HEARING NONE, WE WILL, UH, SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.
USE OF THE MONSANTO, UH, SETTLEMENT.
UM, WE'LL GO AHEAD AND MOTION ON THAT.
UH, SO WE CAN BRING IT FOR DISCRETION.
I'LL GO AHEAD AND SECOND IT MYSELF SO WE CAN BRING HER UP FOR DISCUSSION AND DISCUSSION.
SUPERVISOR KREBS? UM, I'M LOOKING FOR EXPLANATION ON WHAT THE, THE SETTLEMENT FUNDS ARE.
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I'M GONNA TRY TO GIVE JUST A LITTLE BIT OF BACKGROUND ON THIS REQUEST.
SO, THE BROWN, THE BROWNFIELDS, SRP, WE HAVE BEEN SAYING PUBLICLY AT SEVERAL MEETINGS FOR A LITTLE BIT NOW THAT THE BROWNFIELDS SITE WORD DEVELOPMENT PROGRAM IS, UM, ALMOST OUT OF FUNDING.
SO THE, I KNOW THE EXECUTIVE COMMITTEE TALKED LAST NIGHT, IT WAS REMOVED FROM THE, UH, RECOMMENDED CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROGRAM, THE FUNDING, ONGOING FUNDING OF THAT PROGRAM.
AND IT IS GOING TO BE BROUGHT VIA RESOLUTION BEFORE THE COMMITTEE, AND THEN ULTIMATELY PROBABLY THE EXECUTIVE COMMITTEE, AND THEN ULTIMATELY THE FULL COUNTY BOARD FOR DISCUSSION ABOUT MORE FUNDING FOR THAT PROGRAM HOLISTICALLY.
SO IN THE SHORT TERM THOUGH, THE PROGRAM IS, THERE ARE CASES, ONGOING CASES IN FRONT OF THAT GROUP.
AND SO WE'RE LOOKING AT HOW DO WE BRIDGE THE REQUEST THAT WE HAVE IN FRONT OF US.
AND SO IN THAT DISCUSSION, THE, THE QUICKEST AND EASIEST WAY, UM, THAT WAS, IS BEING RECOMMENDED AND IN FRONT OF YOU, IS TO USE MONEY THAT IS IN, THAT IS CURRENTLY IN, IN THE SPENDING AUTHORITY FOR THIS PURPOSE NOW.
UM, AND THEN VERSUS INTO THE GENERAL FUND.
SO THE MONSANTO SETTLEMENT MONEY, AND I WILL ASK THE COUNTY ATTORNEY TO FEEL FREE TO JUMP IN ON THIS.
'CAUSE I KNOW HE WAS CONSULTED WITH REGARD TO THE USE OF FUNDS FOR THIS PURPOSE WAS MONEY THAT THE COUNTY RECEIVED AS PART OF A CLASS ACTION LAWSUIT FOR PFAS CONTAMINATION AND COUNTIES, BASED ON THEIR PERMITTING LEVELS GOT A CHUNK OF MONEY.
AND SO WE GOT SOME MONEY THAT WAS TO BE DESIGNATED, UM, VERY BROADLY FOR ENVIRONMENTAL, UM, CLEANUP, PFAS, REMEDIATION, THOSE TYPES OF EFFORTS AT THE DISCRETION OF THE COUNTY.
SO IT WAS BROUGHT IN AS A REVENUE AT THE TIME, AND I DON'T RECALL HOW MANY OF YOU WERE ON THE COMMITTEE.
I KNOW SUPERVISOR MARY WAS, UM, ON THE COMMITTEE AT THE TIME, RATHER THAN SPECIFY AT THE TIME HOW IT WAS GONNA BE SPENT, THE CONVERSATION WAS THAT WE, WE PUT IT ON THE AGENDA.
WE TALKED THROUGH THE FUNDS THAT WE WERE GOING TO DEPOSIT THE CHECK, AND THAT AT THIS SUCH TIME WHEN WE WERE GOING TO SPEND THE MONEY, WE WOULD COME BACK TO THE COMMITTEE.
SO THAT'S, IT'S SIMILAR TO THE STRATEGIC PRIORITIES WHEREIN THE AUTHOR, YOU KNOW, THE MONEY IS THERE AND THEN THE SPECIFIC PURPOSE IS KIND OF COMING FORWARD FOR CONSIDERATION.
UM, AND SO THE THOUGHT PROCESS WAS TO USE THE MONEY DESIGNATED FOR THIS PURPOSE FIRST, UM, KNOWING THAT WE WOULD BE ULTIMATELY COMING BACK WITH A CONVERSATION ABOUT HOW TO, UM, CONTINUE TO FUND THE SITE REDEVELOPMENT PROGRAM GOING FORWARD.
SO THAT'S KIND OF THE BACKGROUND.
UM, DOES IN, UH, COUNTY ATTORNEY STERN, PLEASE FEEL FREE TO JUMP IN IF YOU HAVE ANY ADDITIONAL COMMENTS RELATED TO THE, UH, DESIGNATIONS WITHIN THE LAWSUIT THAT THE MONEY SHOULD BE SPENT FOR.
BUT IT DID GIVE BROAD AUTHORITY TO THE COUNTY TO DETERMINE IF IT WAS A, A PURPOSE THAT THEY THOUGHT, UM, SERVED IT.
AND THE SITE REDEVELOPMENT PROGRAM GENERICALLY DOES, DO WE BELIEVE QUALIFIES FOR THE USE OF FUNDS? I I THAT IS ABSOLUTELY CORRECT.
AND WE'VE LOOKED AT THIS AND WE DETERMINED THAT THE USE OF THE FUNDS FOR THESE PURPOSES ARE, ARE WITHIN THE, THE TERMS OF THAT SETTLEMENT.
SO I HAVE NO ISSUE WITH THAT AT ALL.
CAN, CAN YOU LET ME KNOW HOW MUCH MONEY DID WE RECEIVE FROM THAT SETTLEMENT? AND THE FOLLOW UP THEN IS WHY ARE WE USING SOME STRATEGIC FUNDS, PRIORITY FUNDS FOR IT VERSUS JUST ALL SETTLEMENT MONEY.
THAT IS THE BALANCE OF EVERYTHING WE RECEIVED.
SO THAT WOULD DEPLETE THAT FUND, THAT SETTLEMENT FUND IS ZERO.
AND SO THE THOUGHT PROCESS WAS THE SITE REDEVELOPMENT PROGRAM IS A GOOD USE FOR THIS.
WE MIGHT AS WELL USE THAT MONEY, UM, WHICH IS DESIGNATED BEFORE WE LOOK AT UNDESIGNATED FUNDS.
THAT COULD BE MORE BROADLY APPLIED.
HOW, WHAT WAS THE ORIGINAL SETTLEMENT AMOUNT? THAT WAS THE ORIGINAL SETTLEMENT AMOUNT? SO THIS, THIS IS IN TOTALITY, RIGHT? WE DIDN'T RECEIVE MUCH.
UM, SOME CAL SOME PLACES WHERE THERE WAS KNOWN PFAS CONTAMINATION GOT MORE.
THIS WAS KIND OF THE LITTLE BIT THAT I DON'T WANNA SAY MOST PEOPLE GOT.
UM, BUT PEOPLE HOLDING PERMITS GOT FOR A MORE BROAD MITIGATION EFFORT, MEANING, UM, THERE WAS NO KNOWN, WE DID NOT HAVE ANY KNOWN PFAS ISSUES AT THE TIME, AND WE STILL, WE STILL DO NOT HAVE ANY KNOWN ISSUES.
SO THERE IS PFAS TESTING THAT GOES ON WITH DEVELOPMENT AND, AND SITE SOILS THROUGH THE BROWNFIELD SITE REDEVELOPMENT PROGRAM.
AND SO THERE SOMETIMES COULD BE PFAS, I THINK ONE OF OUR COMMUNITIES MAY HAVE HAD AN ISSUE WITH THIS.
UM, I DON'T, I CAN'T STATE THAT THERE ARE NO PFAS ISSUES ANYWHERE IN THE COUNTY.
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THAT KNOWLEDGE.UM, SO LONG AND THE SHORT OF IT, I DID QUESTION WHY THIS WOULD BE JUST IN THE CONSENT AGENDA AND IT WAS MY, UH, UNDERSTANDING THAT BASICALLY THE MONEY HAS ALREADY BEEN AUTHORIZED.
UM, SO THIS IS MORE OR LESS KIND OF A COURTESY TO SAY, WELL, OKAY, YOU'VE ALLOWED US TO SPEND THIS MONEY AND THIS IS HOW WE'RE GONNA SPEND IT.
SO, UM, THAT'S WHY IT IS ACTUALLY IN THE AGENDA.
BUT I DID WANT TO GIVE AN OPPORTUNITY FOR EVERYBODY TO, UM, UH, GET A QUESTION ON IT AND JUST DOUBLE CHECK ME ON MY FACTS HERE AND MAKE SURE I'M CORRECT.
SO, UM, BRAD, WHAT DID PAM? YEAH, UH, UH, SUPERVISOR CONRAD, PLEASE GO AHEAD.
JUST CURIOUS, UM, WHAT ALL QUALIFIES FOR THESE FUNDS THAT MAYBE WE COULD USE, UM, DIFFERENTLY? YOU SAID YOU, YOU DON'T KNOW OF ANY, YOU KNOW, CURRENT, UM, PFAS ISSUES THAT YOU'RE ABLE TO ARTICULATE, BUT, YOU KNOW, WHAT ELSE COULD MAYBE THESE FUNDS BE UTILIZED FOR? UM, SO OUR CLEAN SWEEP PROGRAMMING TYPE WORK, HAZARDOUS WASTE MITIGATION, UM, BROWNFIELD SITE REDEVELOPMENT, ESSENTIALLY ANY ENVIRONMENTAL, MY TAKE ON IT IS ANY SORT OF ENVIRONMENTAL CLEANUP, WORK ASSESSMENT WORK, UM, TESTING, UH, SHOULD THERE BE CONTAMINATION WORK TOWARDS, UM, ANY SORT OF A PROGRAM MARKETING EFFORTS, COMMUNICATION RELATED TO THIS TYPE OF WORK.
SO IT IS, IT WAS A PRETTY BROAD GRANT, UM, THAT IT COULD BE USED FOR WHATEVER THE COUNTY DETERMINED WOULD BE.
I MEAN, I THINK THE LANGUAGE IS IN THE COMMITTEE REPORT THAT THEY USED.
SO I THINK WE HAVE A GENERAL IDEA AND CONSENSUS.
I DON'T THINK WE HAVE TO REALLY NECESSARILY VOTE IT OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT.
IT IS PART OF THE CONSENT AGENDA.
UM, AND NOW WE HAVE A PRETTY GOOD EXPLANATION OF WHAT'S GOING ON.
DO, DO THE ME AGENDA TO PRESENTED.
LET'S DO THAT MO UM, I'LL MAKE ALRIGHT THEN.
SECONDED BY RALPH DOOR KNOCKER.
MOVING ON, UH, TO DISCUSSION, POSSIBLE ACTION, UH, A ROUNDUP, UH, FOR THE NEXT 18 AT WASHINGTON COUNTY GOLF COURSE.
JAMIE, YOU HAVE A GUEST HERE TODAY.
SO I'M JUST GOING TO BRIEFLY, I'M ACTUALLY GONNA LET OUR VETERAN SERVICES OFFICER KURT RUSH, INTRODUCE THIS ITEM.
BUT I DO WANT TO, UM, TAKE A MINUTE.
THIS IS BEFORE THIS GROUP TODAY BECAUSE IT IS RELATED TO THE WASHINGTON COUNTY GOLF COURSE.
SO THE PROPOSED PROJECT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT, WE HAVE HOSTED NEXT 18 AT WASHINGTON COUNTY GOLF COURSE IN THE PAST.
UM, WE ARE PLANNING TO DO THAT AGAIN IN 2025, UM, AS WE KIND OF FORMALIZE A PARTNERSHIP A LITTLE BIT MORE WITH NEXT 18.
AND WE ARE RECOMMENDING A PILOT ROUNDUP PROGRAM AT THE GOLF COURSE THIS SEASON.
UM, AND SO WE'RE GONNA TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THAT, BUT JUST TO MAKE SURE EVERYBODY'S CLEAR ON WHAT A ROUNDUP PROGRAM IS, UM, CUSTOMERS OF THE WASHINGTON COUNTY GOLF COURSE AT THE PRO SHOP COUNTER, UM, WOULD BE ASKED WITH THEIR TRANSACTION IF THEY WOULD LIKE TO ROUND UP FOR NEXT, FOR NEXT 18 TO TODAY TO THE NEAREST DOLLAR OR MORE.
UM, AND THEN AT, FOR THE CONCLUSION OF THE SEASON, UM, THAT MONEY WOULD GO TO SUPPORT NEXT 18.
SO THAT'S REALLY WHAT THE PROG, YOU KNOW, WHAT THE IDEA IS THAT'S BEFORE YOU IN TERMS OF THE ROUNDUP PROGRAM.
UM, AND I, AND SO WHAT WE'RE GONNA TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT TODAY IS, IS NEXT 18 AND WHY, UM, THEY'RE BEING RECOMMENDED AS KIND OF THE PILOT RECIPIENT OF THIS PROGRAM, UM, AS IT RELATES TO WASHINGTON COUNTY.
AND SO I'M GONNA ASK KURT TO COME ON UP AND I'M GONNA SET UP A VIDEO IN THE MEANTIME, DEPENDING ON HOW LONG THAT'S GONNA TAKE.
I BETTER TALK PRETTY SLOWLY 'CAUSE I'VE GOT PRETTY BRIEF REMARKS, BUT I THINK I KNOW EVERYBODY HERE.
I'M KURT, UH, I'M THE WASHINGTON COUNTY VETERAN SERVICE OFFICER.
UH, AND, UM, I, UH, WHEN I WAS BROUGHT INTO THE DISCUSSION, UM, UH, RECENTLY ABOUT NEXT 18, UM, I WAS THRILLED TO COME BY AND, AND GIVE MY STAMP OF APPROVAL AND, AND
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TELL YOU GUYS A LITTLE BIT ABOUT IT.UM, I MET MATT, UH, SEVERAL YEARS AGO.
UH, HE'S THE EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF NEXT 18.
YOU'RE GONNA BE INTRODUCED TO HIM IN A, IN A FEW MOMENTS HERE.
UM, AND, UH, UM, I, I GUESS BEFORE I TALK JUST BRIEFLY ABOUT THE ORGANIZATION ITSELF, NOT ALL VETERANS SERVING NONPROFITS ARE THE SAME.
UH, AND I THINK THAT GOES GENERALLY WITHOUT SAYING, BUT I'M GONNA SAY IT ANYWAY.
UH, IN THE STATE OF WISCONSIN, THERE'S 2000 VETERANS SERVING NONPROFITS AT ANY GIVEN TIME.
THE VAST MAJORITY OF THOSE ORGANIZATIONS ARE, ARE ONE PERSON SHOWS, UH, WHERE THEY'VE RAISED LITTLE MONEY, THEY'VE SPENT A LITTLE MONEY ON A, A SPECIFIC EFFORT, AND THEN THEY'VE KIND OF LET LET THAT STOP.
UH, AT THAT POINT, UM, THAT'S NOT WHAT NEXT 18 IS.
UM, UH, MATT MCDONALD HAS GROWN NEXT 18 INTO A VIABLE, UH, AND EXCELLENT VETERAN SERVING NONPROFIT THAT WE HAVE THE PRIVILEGE OF HAVING IN OUR AREA.
AND, UH, I, I'M JUST THRILLED ABOUT IT.
SO, UM, UH, I, I BELIEVE, UH, YOU KNOW, FURTHERMORE, UH, THE, THE STRUCTURE AND THE MISSION AND THE DRAW, UH, TO OUR AREA, UM, RELATED TO NEXT 18 IS, IS JUST A VERY POSITIVE THING.
UH, SO WITHOUT FURTHER ADO, WE'RE GONNA PLAY THE VIDEO.
CAN YOU JUST WANT ME TO HIT PLAY? UM, YEAH, I THINK THEY HAVE TO FLIP IT.
THE UNITED ARMY, I WAS A AIRBORNE INFANTRYMAN.
I GOT OUT OF THE MILITARY AT THE END OF 15, AND I WAS MEDICALLY RETIRED, SO I THOUGHT EVERYTHING WAS GOOD.
AWARE OF EXTERNALLY WAS THAT THE VA, SIX MONTHS AFTER GETTING OUT, HAD ME ON MEDICATION.
MY PROVIDER'S GUIDANCE WAS, YOU CAN TAKE A HALF A DOSE OF EACH FOR TWO WEEKS AND STOP TWO WEEKS INTO GOING COLD TURKEY.
I WOKE UP IN THE MORNING AND I REMEMBER IN THE MOMENT THINKING, I AM NOT SURE I'M GONNA GET THROUGH THE NEXT FIVE MINUTES BECAUSE I'M NOT IN CONTROL OF MY BODY.
AND THAT WAS NOT A ROUTINE THOUGHT.
THAT'S NOT SOMETHING I HAD EVER GONE THROUGH IN THE PAST.
I HAD NEVER HAD SUICIDAL IDEATIONS.
AND I STARTED IRRATIONALLY THINKING IN MY MIND, IS THIS WHAT THE PAIN IS GONNA BE LIKE? NOW? FORTUNATELY, I GOT THROUGH IT, BUT IT TOOK ALMOST TWO YEARS TO COME OFF THESE MEDS.
AND IN 19, I WENT TO A SEMPER FI FUND CAMP.
THEY DO A LOT OF DIFFERENT THINGS FOR VETS, AND I WENT TO A GOLF CAMP.
ALL I WANTED TO DO WAS GET BACK TO ONE THING THAT I ENJOYED IN LIFE.
THEN I STARTED FINDING MY JOY FOR GOLF AGAIN.
AND THAT WAS MY FIRST EXPOSURE TO RECREATIONAL THERAPY.
THAT'S WHERE THE IDEA STARTED COMING UP FOR NEXT 18, I STARTED THINKING, WHAT IF I DO SOMETHING SIMILAR TO WHAT SEMPER PHI DOES? BUT I INCORPORATE A LOT OF MENTAL HEALTH RESOURCES.
I STARTED NEXT 18 BECAUSE I SAW THE LACK OF RESOURCES FOR MENTAL HEALTH, FOR VETS AND FIRST RESPONDERS, AND I HAD TO DO SOMETHING.
SO IN A NUTSHELL, OUR CAMPS ARE THREE AND A HALF DAY GOLF CAMPS, BUT OVER THE COURSE OF THREE AND A HALF DAYS, WE REALLY TEACH OUR PARTICIPANTS ABOUT SELF-CARE, EMPATHY AND COMPASSION BOX BREATHING, OTHER FORMS OF BREATHING TECHNIQUES, YOGA, MEDITATION, MINDFULNESS EXERCISES, BODY SCANNING, REIKI, JOURNALING.
EACH DAY THEY'LL HAVE ABOUT TWO TO THREE 15 TO 20 MINUTE GROUP SESSIONS WITH MYSELF LEADING IT, WHERE WE JUST, UH, IT'S TALK THERAPY.
LET'S START TALKING ABOUT THINGS THAT WE DON'T TALK ABOUT.
WE GIVE THEM AN ENVIRONMENT WHERE THEY CAN UNPACK THE RUCK, SO TO SPEAK, ON THE FINAL DAY.
AND THEN WE REALLY START EDUCATING THEM ABOUT MORAL INJURY, WHICH MOST PEOPLE DON'T KNOW ABOUT.
A LOT OF THE WORK IS TACKLING THE STIGMAS THAT EXIST IN THE VETERAN FIRST RESPONDER COMMUNITY, AND MAINLY IN OUR SOCIETY.
WE WE DO A LOT OF SELF-SABOTAGING AND, UH, DESTRUCTIVE BEHAVIOR SO THAT WE DON'T HAVE TO DEAL WITH OUR ISSUES.
WE DON'T TALK ABOUT OUR TRAUMAS, WE DON'T TALK ABOUT OUR FEELINGS.
WE'VE BEEN CONDITIONED WITH ALL OF THESE STIGMAS THAT EXIST WHERE, WELL, YOU KNOW WHAT? I'M UNCOMFORTABLE.
OR LET'S JUST BURY IT AND DEAL WITH IT DOWN THE ROAD.
IT'S THE MINDSET OF NO ONE'S GONNA UNDERSTAND WHAT I'VE GONE THROUGH, WHY EVEN HAVE THE CONVERSATION.
BUT THESE STIGMAS AREN'T SERVING OUR, OUR SOCIETY.
WHAT HISTORICALLY HAPPENS WHEN WE DON'T TALK ABOUT OUR PROBLEMS. NOTHING GOOD HAPPENS FROM THAT.
GOLF HAS ALWAYS COME EASY TO ME.
I'VE BEEN PLAYING IT SINCE I WAS ABOUT SIX YEARS OLD.
THERE'S SO MANY THINGS ASSOCIATED WITH THE GAME OF GOLF THAT YOU CAN TIE INTO LIFE.
SO WHEN WE START GETTING FURTHER INTO NEXT 18 BREATH WORK, MINDFULNESS, YOU'RE, YOU'RE IN THE MOMENT.
YOU'RE AWARE OF YOUR BODY, YOU'RE CONTROLLING YOUR BREATHING.
ALL OF THESE THINGS ARE REALLY BENEFICIAL FOR THE GAME OF GOLF.
BUT ON A BIGGER LEVEL, THEY'RE
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REALLY BENEFICIAL TO LIFE.AND BEING IN CONTROL OF YOUR EMOTIONS AND BEING ABLE TO KNOW WHEN YOU'RE HAVING AN AN EPISODE OR YOU'RE BEING TRIGGERED GOOD.
BEING RECOGNIZED AS A WEBMD HEALTH HERO IS VERY SURREAL.
THIS FILLS MY CUP UP O OVER THE BRIM.
THIS, THIS IS CLEARLY WHAT I NEED TO BE DOING WITH MY LIFE.
SO THAT WAS AT WASHINGTON COUNTY GOLF COURSE.
SO I GUESS I'M GONNA BRING MATT UP RIGHT AWAY BECAUSE I DON'T THINK I CAN SEE IT ANY BETTER THAN HE CAN.
UH, AND I THINK THAT VIDEO IS, IS A GREAT TESTAMENT TO THE, THE GREAT WORK THAT THEY DO.
THANKS EVERYBODY FOR HAVING ME.
UH, I'LL MAKE THIS PRETTY SHORT.
IT'S, IT'S NOT LOST UPON ME THAT THE COUNTY AND THE COURSE THAT DECIDED TO STEP FORWARD AND GET INVOLVED, UH, IS THE COUNTY THAT I GREW UP IN.
I WENT TO GERMANTOWN, UH, I WENT TO GERMANTOWN HIGH SCHOOL, PLAYED ON THE GOLF TEAM.
UM, I KNOW I'M THE ONLY ONE HERE REPRESENTING THE ORGANIZATION RIGHT NOW, BUT I CAN TELL YOU THE ENTIRE TEAM IS INCREDIBLY THANKFUL.
AND WE REALLY HOPE THAT THIS CAN BE A PLATFORM FOR, UH, A SPRINGBOARD FOR US AS WE MOVE NATIONALLY TO GET OTHER COURSES AND COUNTIES INVOLVED WITH WHAT WE DO.
AT THE END OF THE DAY, WE JUST WANT TO TAKE CARE OF OUR PEOPLE THAT, UH, PROTECT ALL OF US.
IF ANY OF YOU HAVE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS, FEEL FREE TO REACH OUT AND WE'D LOVE TO INVITE YOU OUT THIS YEAR TO SEE THE PROGRAM.
UM, FIRST OF ALL, UM, THANK YOU FOR COMING OUT AND SHARING WITH US TODAY.
YOU WELCOME TO OUR COUNTRY AND AND CONGRATULATIONS ON BEING ABLE TO KICK THE MEDICINES THAT WERE DESIGNED TO HELP YOU AND SOMETIMES DO THEIR, DO THEIR TOLL ON YOU AS WELL.
SO, UM, ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS FROM THE COMMITTEE SUPERVISOR? MARY? I WOULD JUST LIKE TO SAY THANK YOU FOR ORGANIZING THE PROGRAM.
I SIMPLY BUILT WHAT I NEEDED AND APPARENTLY A LOT OF MY BROTHERS AND SISTERS NEEDED TO, SO I'M GONNA KEEP DOING WHAT I DO WITH YOUR SUPPORT.
SO, UM, IT'S NOT NECESSARILY SOMETHING THAT WE NEED A RESOLUTION ON OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT.
UM, BUT I WOULD LIKE TO NOTE, UH, THE LETTER FROM, UH, SHERIFF SCHULTE, UH, IN REGARDS TO THIS, AND I THINK THAT'S A VERY UNUSUAL STEP, UH, BECAUSE MARTY'S VERY, VERY CAREFUL ABOUT, UM, HOW AND WHAT HE DOES IN THE PUBLIC EYE.
UH, SO TO PUT OUT THIS LETTER IS, IS QUITE EXCEPTIONAL.
UM, AND, AND FROM AN EXCEPTIONAL MAN THAT I HAVE A LOT OF, UH, FAITH IN.
UM, I THINK WHAT WE'RE LOOKING HERE FOR, FROM TODAY AT THE COMMITTEE, UH, IS THAT JUST, UH, UH, UH, A A BIT OF SUPPORT FROM THE COMMITTEE, UH, SORT OF A THUMBS UP, UH, TO WHAT WE'RE DOING HERE.
IS THAT CORRECT, MS. LUBBOCK? ABSOLUTELY.
WE, A THUMBS UP WOULD BE GREAT.
AGAIN, BECAUSE WE'RE GONNA BE TAKING THE MONEY IN AND, AND PUTTING THE MONEY OUT, WE WANTED TO MAKE SURE WE WERE TRANSPARENT ABOUT IT.
UM, BECAUSE THIS IS A LITTLE BIT UNIQUE.
WE HAVE NOT DONE A ROUNDUP PROGRAM FOR A, FOR A NONPROFIT BEFORE AT THE GOLF COURSE.
UM, AND SO A THUMBS UP WOULD BE GREAT.
A MOTION TO APPROVE WOULD BE BETTER.
I WOULD MAKE THE MOTION APPROVE THE IMPLEMENTATION OF A PILOT ROUNDUP PROGRAM FOR NEXT 18.
AND I'LL ACCEPT, UH, SUPERVISOR MARY'S MOTION AND I'LL HAVE A SECOND FROM RALPH DOORKNOCKER.
UH, COULD, COULD I JUST INJECT AND HAVE SUPERVISOR CONRAD POTENTIALLY AS, I DON'T KNOW THAT YOU CAN SECOND THAT MR. MR. CHAIRMAN, UH, ONLY MEMBERS OF THE COUNTY BOARD CAN SECOND AND VOTE ON MOTIONS THAT, UH, ARE STRICTLY WITHIN THE PURVIEW OF THE COUNTY BOARD.
WE'LL HAVE TO GO BACK ALSO AND, AND REVISIT THE MOTION TO APPROVE THE CONSENT AGENDA AT THE END OF THE MEETING FOR THE SAME REASON.
UH, SUPERVISOR CONRAD, DID YOU CARE TO SECOND? YES.
I RECOGNIZE SECOND BY SUPERVISOR CONRAD.
WE'LL LOOK FORWARD TO COMING OUT AND PLAYING SOME GOLF AND ROUNDING UP FOR OUR VETS.
LET'S GO BACK AND, UH, REVISIT THAT RIGHT AWAY.
TAKE A MOTION ON THE CONSENT AGENDA WAS, UH, SUPERVISOR MARY WAS, WAS IT SUPERVISOR MARY THAT, OKAY.
SO I'LL SAY ACCEPT THIS FIRST.
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KREBS ALL APPROVE, SAY AYE.ANY OPPOSED? OKAY, SATISFIED WITH THAT MR. ATTORNEY? YES, SIR.
UH, QUITE FRANKLY, I GOT A LITTLE CONFUSED WHEN WE HAD THE FIRST, WHEN I WAS READING THROUGH THIS PRIOR TO COMING IN TODAY, THE FIRST DISCUSSION WITH REGARDING USING FUNDS FROM MONSANTO.
AND THE SECOND DISCUSSION WAS A ROUNDUP PROGRAM.
AND I THINK THE PROBLEM WITH THE COLLECTION OF MONEY WAS FROM THE ROUNDUP PRODUCT, WHICH WAS FROM MONSANTO.
AND I HAD TO READ THROUGH EVERYTHING TWICE AND REALIZE THEY'RE NOT RELATED TO DIFFERENT ROUNDUP.
WE WILL MOVE ON TO PARK'S, UH, FISCALLY THRIVING PROJECT GATING COUNTY PARK.
UM, SO WE HAVE A DISCUSSION ON THE BOAT LAUNCH.
SO, UH, IF YOU RECALL YOUR COUNTY BOARD STRATEGIC PRIORITIES RETREAT, THERE WERE A NUMBER OF ITEMS RELATED TO THE PARKS ENTERPRISE AND THE FISCALLY THRIVING PLAN.
UM, AS A REMINDER, WASHINGTON COUNTY PARKS DOES NOT UTILIZE ANY PROPERTY TAX DOLLARS FOR ITS OPERATING BUDGET OR ITS CAPITAL BUDGET.
UM, IT IS A SELF-FUNDED ENTERPRISE, UM, THAT RELIES ON USER FEES AND OTHER STREAMS OF REVENUE, UM, TO THE TUNE OF, I BELIEVE, YOU KNOW, WE'RE CLOSE TO A COUPLE MILLION DOLLARS OF EXPENSES THAT WE'RE OPERATING, UM, MORE LIKE A BUSINESS.
SO ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE'RE CONSTANTLY DOING, AND THIS CAME UP, IS HOW ARE WE CONTINUING TO BUILD OUR AMENITIES AND MAKE INVESTMENTS IN OUR PARKS, UM, THAT ARE GOING TO FUEL THAT RETURN ON INVESTMENT AS WE LOOK AT THE COST TO CONTINUE AND HOW WE'RE GOING TO STAY FRESH LIKE EVERY OTHER BUSINESS, UM, IN ORDER TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE PROTECTING THE PROPERTY TAX DOLLAR.
SO THE IDEA FROM THE COUNTY BOARD, UM, AND THE COUNTY EXECUTIVE WAS TO START TAKING A LOOK AT WHERE WE NEED TO BE MAKING MORE STRATEGIC INVESTMENTS IN OUR PARKS, UM, AND KIND OF RUNNING THOSE ANALYSES, UM, AND ONE AT A TIME.
AND SO WHAT YOU'RE GONNA SEE, AND WE'RE DOING THIS ONE FIRST BECAUSE IT WAS SPECIFICALLY CALLED OUT, UM, BUT THERE WILL BE A FOLLOW UP TO THE PARKS FI AND UPDATE ESSENTIALLY TO, TO THE FISCALLY THRIVING PLAN.
AND WE'RE REALLY WORKING RIGHT NOW ON WHAT ARE THOSE THINGS? ARE THEY CAMPGROUNDS, ARE THEY, UH, MULTI-PURPOSE FACILITIES? ARE THEY, YOU KNOW, RUGBY FACILITIES? WHAT ARE THE THINGS? UM, I BELIEVE SUPERVISOR SCHWAB BROUGHT UP A ROPES COURSE.
UM, BUT SOME REQUIRE LARGER INVESTMENTS THAN OTHERS AND HAVE SLOWER OR FASTER RETURNS.
AND SO THIS IS A SMALL ONE, UM, THAT WE'RE BRINGING FORWARD.
I KNOW THERE WERE SOME QUESTIONS THAT CAME IN FROM SUPERVISOR CONRAD IN ADVANCE ABOUT STATISTICS THAT GADEN.
UM, BUT AS YOU RECALL, GADEN COUNTY PARK WAS ORIGINALLY DESIGNATED, UM, A NOT A PRIORITY PARK, MEANING WE DIDN'T IMPLEMENT OUR USER FEE HERE.
UM, NOR DID WE INVEST RATHER, WE, UH, ACTUALLY TORE OUT THE PLAYGROUND.
UM, AND WE LOOKED AT TRANSFERRING IT TO AND WORKING WITH OZAKI WASHINGTON LAND TRUST INITIALLY.
UM, BUT IT WAS, IT WAS LEFT WITH A NOTE THAT IT WAS USED A LOT FOR KAYAKERS AND KAYAK ACCESS UP THE MILWAUKEE RIVER.
AND SO, UH, THERE'S A VIEWING RESTRICTION ON THE PROPERTY, WHICH, WHICH LEAVES IT, YOU KNOW, PUBLIC PROPERTY TYPE PARK PROPERTY IN ITS FUTURE.
UM, THERE REALLY ISN'T A WHOLE LOT OF CHANGE THAT COULD COME FROM THAT.
AND WHAT THIS IDEA DOES IS IT BRINGS IT INTO OUR DATA SYSTEM, INTO OUR CAMERA SYSTEM, INTO OUR REVENUE COLLECTION SYSTEM.
UM, AND SO A LOT OF THE COSTS YOU SEE IN THE ROI IS ACTUALLY THE COSTS FOR THE CAMERA, RIGHT? SO WE VOTED EARLIER ON MAKING THIS PART OF OUR PARK ENTRANCE FEE PROGRAM.
UM, SO YOU SEE HERE WE HAVE A COST OF, UM, $19,000 FOR THIS PROJECT, WHICH I'LL TALK ABOUT.
AND THEN A RETURN OF ABOUT 3000 ANNUALLY.
THAT 19,000 DOES NOT INCLUDE OUR LABOR.
IF WE WERE TO INCLUDE THE LABOR, THE RETURN WOULD BE A LOT LOWER.
SO IT'S NOT A SUPER FAST RETURN.
SIX, I THINK THAT'S WHAT, SIX YEARS? UH, SIX AND A HALF YEARS.
UM, HOWEVER, IT IS AN AMENITY, RIGHT? SO IT'S ALSO DRAWS TO THE PARK AND PROVIDES, YOU KNOW, THAT THAT DUAL, UM, WE REALLY LOOK AT 10 YEARS OR LESS AS SOMETHING THAT WE WOULD WANNA DO BECAUSE IT PROVIDES THAT ADDED AMENITY FOR OUR USER.
AND SO IN THIS CASE, WHAT THIS DOES IS IT'S REALLY, REALLY RATHER SIMPLE IF YOU'VE BEEN OUT TO GADEN, BUT IT'S VERY DIFFICULT TO GET YOUR KAYAK UP AND DOWN THE SLOPE.
AND SO WHAT THIS IS, IS IT'S A LOT OF EARTH WORK TO ESSENTIALLY FACILITATE THE KAYAK LAUNCH.
AND WE HAVE PRODUCTS, UM, SO THAT PEOPLE CAN GET IN AND
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OUT.WE LOOKED AT, YOU KNOW, PIER STRUCTURES OR DOCK STRUCTURES, UM, FOR THIS LOCATION, BUT IT, BECAUSE OF HOW SHALLOW THE RIVER IS RIGHT HERE AND THE FLUCTUATION, IT REALLY DOESN'T MAKE ANY SENSE.
AND, AND SIMPLY CHANGING SOME OF THE GRADES AND WORKING ON THE SLOPE.
AND THEN A LOT OF THIS IS, UH, SHORELINE RESTORATION.
SO WE'RE PAIRING IT WITH OUR WATER EDUCATION INITIATIVE AND OUR WATER HEALTH INITIATIVE, UM, TO TRY TO USE SOME PRODUCTS, UM, WHERE WE CAN DEMONSTRATE, UM, WHY THIS IS GOOD FOR THE STREAM AND THE RIVER.
AND SO IT'S, IT'S NOT A SUPER FLASHY PROJECT, BUT IT'S ONE THAT WE THINK WE'LL SEE A LOT OF POSITIVE FEEDBACK FROM THE PEOPLE WHO KAYAK THIS RIVER.
IT'S USED AS A MIDDLE POINT BETWEEN WEST BEND AND THE OTHER LOCATION.
ONE OF OUR LOCAL BUSINESSES USES IT AS A PICKUP SPOT.
UM, AND SO WE THINK THAT ON THE WARM DAYS THERE'S SIGNIFICANT USER DATA OUT HERE.
WE DON'T HAVE THAT DATA BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE THE CAMERAS INSTALLED.
SO UNLIKE OTHER LOCATIONS, WE HAVEN'T BEEN ABLE TO REALLY ANALYZE WHAT THE USAGE WILL BE.
AND SO THERE'S SOME ESTIMATES IN HERE.
UM, SO YOU CAN SEE IN YOUR PACKET, IT KIND OF BREAKS DOWN THE TOP, THE TOP SOIL, THE, UM, TYPES OF THINGS THAT'LL BE PUT IN AND KIND OF WHAT THE COSTS ARE FOR THE VEGETATIVE SEED MIX, UM, AND WHERE WE'RE LOOKING AT POTENTIALLY RECOUPING THE COSTS OF, UM, WHAT THIS INVESTMENT WOULD DO.
YEAH, THERE IS A PLAN THAT KIND OF SHOWS A LITTLE BIT OF WHAT WE'RE DOING, UM, BUT WE THINK IT'LL BE A, A LITTLE BIT OF WORK THAT WILL BE A, A BIG IMPROVEMENT FOR THE PEOPLE THAT USE THIS.
SO I'D BE HAPPY TO ANSWER QUESTIONS ABOUT THIS.
UM, THE FUNDING SOURCE IS OUR OPERATING BUDGET, WHICH ULTIMATELY IS OUR ENTERPRISE.
SO IT'S REALLY WITHIN OUR BUDGET, IT'S MORE OF KIND OF A DECISION OF, YOU KNOW, IF WE USE OUR LITTLE BIT OF AVAILABLE MONEY TO DO THIS, WE WOULDN'T BE DOING SOMETHING ELSE.
AND SO THAT'S KIND OF WHY WE WANTED TO BRING IT TO YOU TO SEE IF THIS IS SOMETHING THAT THERE'S AN APPETITE TO DO.
UH, SUPERVISOR MARY, THANK YOU CHAIR.
UH, QUESTION, JAMIE, JUST TO QUALIFY THIS, THIS IS OPEN FOR ANYONE TO USE, THIS IS NOT NECESSARILY TIED TO A PARTICULAR CONTRACTOR THAT'S USING, UH, KAYAK RENTING, IS THAT CORRECT? CORRECT.
SO THIS IS OPEN TO THE PUBLIC.
ANYBODY WHO WANTS TO DO IT, THEY CAN EITHER LAUNCH FROM OR GO UP AND RETURN TO WHATEVER AT THIS PARTICULAR SPOT.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? UM, THERE'S A BUSINESS, UH, THAT DOES LAUNCHING AND RECOVERING THAT'S ASSOCIATED WITH THIS PARK.
UH, SUPERVISOR CONRAD, I JUST SAW YOU.
I'LL GET YOU AS SOON AS I GET DONE.
NO QUESTION, BUT JUST, UM, THANK YOU TO, UH, JAMIE LUDOVIC FOR THAT, YOU KNOW, EXTENDED EX EXPLANATION ON, ON THE PARK.
AND, UM, I DO SUPPORT THIS AND I SEE ALSO, YOU KNOW, IN OUR COMMUNITY, OUR, OUR COUNTY, UM, PEOPLE ARE INCREASING THEIR ACTIVITIES, YOU KNOW, WITH, WITH KAYAKS AND PADDLE BOARDS AND, AND I'M NOT REALLY AWARE OF MAYBE, YOU KNOW, OTHER PARKS THAT WE HAVE, YOU KNOW, THESE, UM, POTENTIAL USES FOR KAYAKERS.
BUT, AND I HAVE HAD SOME CONSTITUENTS ASK TOO ABOUT, YOU KNOW, A A DIFFERENT AREA IN OUR COUNTY TO MAYBE ADD, UM, YOU KNOW, LIKE PAR PARKING FOR KAYAKERS AND THINGS.
BUT, SO I TRULY APPRECIATE THIS EFFORT, UM, TO ADDRESS THAT POPULATION OF OUR COUNTY.
UM, SO WE HAVE A BUSINESS THAT, UH, APPARENTLY DOES PICK UP HERE.
MS. LUDWIG, THAT'S WHAT YOU SAID? UM, YES.
I MEAN, I, I GUESS I HAVE A LITTLE BIT OF QUESTION WITH THAT.
UM, BECAUSE THIS KIND OF GREATLY, UH, COULD HELP A BUSINESS, UM, WHICH IS NOT NECESSARILY OUR INTENTION, UM, TO HELP ANY ONE PARTICULAR BUSINESS OR BUSINESS BUSINESS SEGMENT.
UM, WE'RE JUST TRYING TO PROVIDE SOMETHING FOR THE PUBLIC, UH, UM, RIGHT, SO BY INSTITUTING THE ENTRANCE FEE FOR THIS PARK, UM, WE HAVE BUSINESSES THAT OPERATE THROUGHOUT OUR PARKS.
SO WE HAVE RELATIONSHIPS WITH RIVERSIDE DISC, GULF SHOP, WITH, UM, PADDLE BREAK, UH, KAYAK RENTALS WITH THE TAP YARD, UH, BEER GARDEN
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IN ACKERMAN'S GROVE.UM, SO WE HAVE A NUMBER OF EXAMPLES OF PUBLIC-PRIVATE PARTNERSHIPS THAT WE'VE DEVELOPED OVER TIME, UM, THAT HELP BENEFIT BOTH OUR CUSTOMERS, BUT ALSO KIND OF THE ENTERPRISE MODEL WITH THIS BEING A FREE PARK.
PREVIOUSLY, YOU KNOW, THAT WAS WHEN YOU'RE A PARK AND YOU'RE FREE PEOPLE, PHOTOGRAPHERS, YOU KNOW, THEY COME IN, THEY USE, THEY USE THE PARKS AND THERE IS NOT A LOT TO BE DONE ABOUT THAT.
UM, WITH THE IMPLEMENTATION OF THE FEE TO USE AND TRANSPORT WITHIN OUR PARK, UM, WE HAVE HAD SOME CONVER VERY POSITIVE CONVERSATIONS.
UM, AND WE ARE LOOKING AT, YOU KNOW, WHAT THE OPTIONS MIGHT BE TO PARTNER AND TO, YOU KNOW, ALLOW THE CONTINUATION OF THAT OPERATION WITHIN OUR PARK SYSTEM.
UM, AGAIN, THAT SOMETIMES CAN BE A LITTLE BIT, UM, IT'S A NEW CONVERSATION, RIGHT? WE WANNA BE, WE WANNA MAKE SURE WE'RE, UH, CAREFUL THAT WE, YOU KNOW, WE'RE DISRUPTING KIND OF THE WHAT HAS BEEN HAPPENING.
AND SO WE'RE, WE'RE HAVING THOSE CONVERSATIONS, WE'VE CONSULTED THOSE PEOPLE WITH REGARDS TO WHAT, WHERE, WHAT MAKES SENSE, WHAT MIGHT NOT MAKE SENSE, WHAT THE THOUGHT PROCESSES ARE.
UM, AND IT'S OUR HOPE THAT, UM, WE ARE GOING TO BE ABLE TO, UH, HAVE A SUCCESSFUL PARTNERSHIP WITH, WITH ANYBODY OR ANY BUSINESS POTENTIALLY WHO WANTS TO COME TO AND FROM AND BE USING OUR PARKS, UM, TO OPERATE.
I DUNNO IF THAT ANSWERS YOUR QUESTION, BUT IT IS, IT IS A NOTE THAT WE DO, WE DO CONTROL WHICH BUSINESSES OPERATE INSIDE OUR PARKS.
AND, AND, UM, THAT ACTUALLY KIND OF DOES BECAUSE I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE COMMUNICATING WITH THAT BUSINESS OR BUSINESSES THAT MIGHT BE UTILIZING IT.
UM, NOT THAT JUST OUTSIDE PUBLIC WOULD LOOK AT IT LIKE WE DID SOMETHING SPECIFICALLY THAT HELPED THEIR BUSINESS, BUT THAT THIS IS RATHER A PARTNERSHIP, RIGHT? WELL, AND SO WHEN THE CAMERA GOES UP, RIGHT, IT'S ENTRANCE AND EXIT TO THE PARKS THAT WE'RE TRACKING.
AND SO WE, IT BECOMES A, IT'S A USER COST, RIGHT? AND SO THEN THAT BECOMES, YOU KNOW, PART OF THE EFFORT OF THE RETURN ON MAKING THIS A MORE DESIRABLE AMENITY OF HOW DO WE MAKE SURE THAT WE CAPTURE THE COSTS TO OPERATE, UM, AND MAINTAIN THE CAPITAL INVESTMENTS WE'RE PUTTING IN.
MARY? YEAH, I REFRESHED MY MEMORY IS WHERE EXACTLY IS GATING PARK? I KNOW I'VE SEEN SIGNS, BUT I CAN'T GO LIFE.
I MEAN, REMEMBER WHERE IT WAS AT? IT IS THAT WAY.
I ASKED THE SAME QUESTION, SO I LOOKED IT UP THE OTHER DAY.
AND, UM, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS ON THIS, JAMIE? WHAT UM, I GUESS WHAT DO YOU NEED FROM US TODAY? I MEAN THIS IS, THIS IS VERY SIMILAR.
I GET TECHNICALLY RIGHT, THE AUTHOR, THE BUDGET IS ALREADY AUTHORIZED WITH REGARDS TO THE PARKS ENTERPRISE OPERATING FUND, WHICH IS PROPOSED SO SIMILAR TO THE LAST ITEM, YOU KNOW, 'CAUSE THE CONSENSUS IS APPROPRIATE, YOU KNOW, IF YOU'D LIKE TO APPROVE THE PROJECT, THAT'S BETTER.
MOTION TO APPROVE THE PROJECT.
MOTION TO APPROVE BY, UH, SUPERVISOR KREBS.
SO I GUESS THAT'S, THAT'S YOUR ANSWER.
SO I GUESS WE'RE GOING TO BE ENTERTAINING A MOTION TO CONVENE TO CLOSE SESSION PURSUANT TO 19.85 OF THE WISCONSIN STATS.
I'LL NEED A MOTION AND A SECOND.
MOVED BY SUPERVISOR MARY, SECONDED BY SUPERVISOR KREBS.
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ACTIONS THAT WE'LL BE UH, TAKING AT THIS TIME IN REGARDS TO OUR CLOSED SESSION, SO I WILL CONSIDER THIS MEETING ADJOURNED.OUR NEXT MEETING IS APRIL 17TH, 2025.