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MORNING

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OR

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AFTERNOON.

YEAH.

YEAH.

I HAD A DAY OFF TODAY, SO I HAD TO GO AND HARVEST, UH, HARVEST SOME REBAR.

OH, JESUS.

THEN I HAD TO HARVEST MY DANDELIONS.

I JUST CUT GRASS.

DAN.

IT MAKE IT LOOK LIKE S**T.

I WAS SUPPOSED TO GOLF THIS EVENING, GOT OUTTA HERE IN THERE.

THAT JUST, SO I WAS AT WASHINGTON COUNTY HITTING BALLS, CANCELED REALLY WHITE GUYS, CANCELED IT COLD OUT.

AND THEN, OH GOD.

WHAT A BUNCH OF WINDS.

YEAH.

WHEN IT'S F*****G 90 DEGREES OUT IN THIS, YOU KNOW, IN THESE, IN MY TWO SKINNY FRIENDS WITH BACK PROBLEMS. SO THEY'LL PLAY IN THAT.

BUT THEN WHEN I HAVE THE ADVANTAGE WHEN IT'S COLD, AND THE GUY THAT NEVER HAS ANY BACK PROBLEMS, WHO LIKES TO PLAY IN COOLER WEATHER, OH, WE CAN'T PLAY.

SURE.

THAT'S A BEDSIDE.

YOU GUYS ARE SPOTTED WITH TWO STROKES AND IT'S, IT'S 90 DAY YOU'RE SPOTTED.

DID YOU GET THROUGH ALL 700 ? 642 PAGES? IS IT 640? WELL, ON THE ONE DOCUMENT YEAH.

.

YEAH.

ON THE ONE DOC.

YEAH.

UH, NO, , I JUST GOT REVIEWS AND IT ALMOST LOOKED LIKE JUST SORT OF THE, THE BRIEF REVIEW HE GAVE US.

YEP.

UH, AT THE COMMITTEE MEETING ON THURSDAY, RIGHT? UH, YES.

YEAH.

YEAH.

ALL THE THINGS HE SAID ABOUT THE TIMETABLE AND, UH, BIDS ARE GONNA GO OUT.

THE BUDGET THAT WAS ON SO MUCH THE SAME THING, SO YEP.

IN THE PRECISE TIME.

I, YEAH, I SAW THAT IN THE, UH, IN JOHN.

MR. SHUT ARRIVED AT 3:53 PM COULDN'T, SIX, SEVEN.

YEAH.

THE ONLY THING IS I WISH I WOULD'VE SEEN THE CLOSED SESSION.

OH, YEAH.

OH YEAH.

I, I MISSED THAT.

WELL, WELL, THAT MUST HAVE HAD TO DO WITH WHERE THEY WERE REPLACING THE, UH, THES, THE SERVERS AND THE, NO, I THINK THAT WAS ABOUT SERVER SECURITY.

WAS IT SERVER SECURITY? I THOUGHT IT WAS.

YEAH.

WELL, IT COULD HAVE BEEN BOTH OF THOSE THINGS, BECAUSE I KNOW WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT, ABOUT THE SHERIFF'S.

UH, UH, BUT THE COURT SIDE VERSUS, YEAH.

YES.

THAT'S WHAT I THOUGHT.

YES.

AND I THINK IT'S ALSO ABOUT JOHN.

I THINK THEY WERE, YOU KNOW, LIKE THE SERVER LOCATIONS, STUFF LIKE THAT.

OH, SO IT MIGHT HAVE BEEN, I WOULD GUESS IT, IT WAS BOTH OF THOSE THINGS.

RIGHT.

SCOTT, CAN YOU WARM UP A LITTLE BIT FOR A COUPLE WEEKS HERE? OR ARE WE GONNA BE, ARE WE GONNA BE, UH, GOLFING? PARKWOODS ? YEAH.

I, I WAS UP NORTH, UH, SO I, SO I WENT OUT, UH, FRIDAY MORNING AND THEN TOOK MY KAYAK OUT FOR ITS MAIDEN VOYAGE, AND THE FRICKING WAVES WERE A FOOT HIGH.

YEAH.

OH MY GOD.

IT WAS, OH GOD.

YEAH.

NO PROBLEM WHATSOEVER.

UH, BUT I DID NOT HAVE MY, UM, MY PROP PROP DOWN ALL THE WAY, BECAUSE IN THOSE JACKSONS, YOU CAN RAISE IT LOWER YOUR CROP LEVEL.

YEAH.

BECAUSE IF YOU'RE IN THE SHALLOW, YOU CAN RAISE IT UP A LITTLE BIT SO YOU CAN GET IN THE SHALLOW WATER WITHOUT HITTING ROCKS AND STUFF.

AND SO I WAS PEDALING MY ASS OFF AND I GOT LIKE A HUNDRED FEET FROM THE PIER.

I'M LIKE, I'M DONE.

I'M, YOU KNOW, AND I, THIS IS THE GUY WHO BIKED A HUNDRED MILES.

RIGHT.

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I TURNED AROUND AND WENT BACK, AND THEN THE NEXT DAY IT WASN'T QUITE AS BAD.

IT WAS COLD, BUT

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NOT QUITE AS BAD.

SO I WENT OUT AGAIN.

AND THAT TIME I PUT IN, PUT IN THREE MILES.

IT WAS, UH, MUCH BETTER WITHOUT, I MEAN, THERE WAS STILL WIND.

YEAH.

ESPECIALLY WHEN WE CROSSED THE LAKE.

BUT, UM, BUT NOT, NOT AS BAD AS THE FIRST DAY.

AND THEN WHEN I REALIZED THAT, OH CRAP, THE PROP GOES DOWN ANOTHER LEVEL AND I STARTED CUDDLING.

I JUST TOOK OFF.

THAT THING GOES PRETTY QUICK.

SO THANKS FOR SHARING WITH US.

776 PAGES.

JUST, UH, FOR THE, FOR THE RECORD YOU ALL HAVE FOR, FOR THE RECORD.

I DID NOT READ 'EM ALL.

.

I DID LOOK AT THE CONCRETE SPECK AND I'M GLAD THEY HAVE ONE, UH, ONE L WHEN DOES THAT START? OKAY, IT'S, IF IT'S THURSDAY AT NIGHT, I'LL PROBABLY HAVE TO PASS BECAUSE I GOT TWO GOODS AND YOU KNOW, I, SO I WAS, UH, SO I WAS ON VACATION AND I GET A TEXT FROM A POWER DIVISION AT WORK.

WE PICKED UP ANOTHER JOB AND I'M LIKE, I NEED MORE VACATION TIME.

I'M ALWAYS GETTING THESE CALLS OR TEXTS OR EMAILS SAYING, HEY, YOU GOT THE PROJECT WHEN I'M ON VACATION.

SO YOU GUYS WANT MORE WORK? I NEED MORE VACATION.

HEY BRIAN, HOW'S IT GOING? GOOD.

LONG TIME.

WE'LL SEE.

I WAS LOOKING FOR THE EMAIL THAT HAD THE SCHEDULED FOR THESE MEETINGS.

DO WE HAVE THEM SCHEDULED IN JUNE TWO OR IS THIS THE LAST ONE FOR THE BUILDING COMMITTEE? IS THERE A JUNE MEETING? I GUESS THAT'S MY QUESTION.

THERE IS, IT'S GOING THROUGH UNTIL LIKE SEPTEMBER, OCTOBER OR SOMETHING YEAR.

OH, THE WW WORK.

YOU HAVE A DATE UNTIL WE GET THE WWC BUILDING.

SO ARE YOU THINKING THAT WE WOULD SUSPEND FOR A WHILE THEN POST HOME, OR IS THIS ALL WE NEED TO DO SINCE I THOUGHT WE WERE TALKING ABOUT POSSIBLY

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ADDITIONS AND BRINGING EVERYBODY OVER HERE AND RIGHT.

SO, SO FOR NOW, THEN NEXT MEETING.

YOU GOT NEXT MEETING DATE JUNE 6TH.

PUT THAT ON HOLD AND SAY, WELL, I KNOW SOME OF THE COMMITTEE MEMBERS WOULD NOT BE OFF THIS.

I WORK YEAR ROUND, I SUPPOSE.

NOTHING, NOTHING MUCH WOULD REALLY HAPPEN THEN.

THIS ALL GETS DONE ANYWAY.

SO IT MIGHT BE A YEAR BEFORE WE WASN'T THINKING.

DOESN'T MAKE SENSE.

DEPARTMENT HERE, WHO'S MOVING FIRST? YOU KNOW, FIGURE OUT WHAT START TO WARRANTY.

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YEAH, I DO THAT TOO.

I, I GOT THREE MINUTES YET.

RIGHT.

IF YOU'RE NOT BACK, I'M STARTING OUT WITHOUT YOU.

ACTUALLY, ACTUALLY, OH, WE, WE, WE GOT A QUORUM NOW.

YEP.

I'M GONNA DO IT.

.

HELLO EVERYBODY.

HEY.

HEY, BRIAN.

KAYLA.

HEY BOSS, MAN.

DOING GOOD.

237 OF 'EM.

WERE ELECTRICAL.

SO I GUESS WE KNOW WHICH TRADE'S MOST IMPORTANT OR THE SHADIEST.

I DON'T KNOW.

YEAH, THE MOST, THE MOST ROOM FOR, UH, SHENANIGANS.

YEAH.

YEAH.

SHORTCUTS.

CONCRETE.

NOT REALLY, NOT WITH ALL THE TESTING.

ASK JIMMY HOFF ABOUT THAT ONE.

HUH? .

YEAH.

WHICH, WHICH, UH, ENGINEER DO YOU HAVE TO PAY OFF TO MAKE THAT HAPPEN? RE SECOND ENVIRONMENT.

WONDERING.

DETERIORATES SEALED IN LIKE THAT THOUGH.

IT'S NOT, IT DOESN'T FALL APART TOO MUCH.

TOO MUCH.

TOO MUCH.

TOO MUCH.

WELL, BECAUSE YOU GOTTA HAVE THREE INCHES OF CO.

YEAH, RIGHT, RIGHT.

GOOD ENOUGH FOR GOVERNMENT WORK.

, WE'RE NOT LIVE.

ARE WE? ? I ALWAYS HAVE TO DO THAT.

TEST THE MICS.

.

OH, NO PROBLEM.

I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE I WASN'T HOLDING YOU UP.

YOU'RE GOOD.

OKAY.

WE'LL BRING THIS BUILDING PROJECT COMMITTEE TO ORDER.

UM, EVERYBODY'S HERE THIS TIME, .

AND, UH, WE, THIS WAS POSTED AS REQUIRED BY STATE LAW.

I'LL STAND FOR A MOMENT OF SILENT PRAYER AND PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE.

I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS.

ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL.

OKAY, THE MINUTES FROM APRIL 21ST.

DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, CONCERNS, CHANGES TO MAKE? SEEING NONE, WE'LL FILE THOSE AS NOTED.

MOVE ON TO THREE.

DISCUSSION ITEM, MASTER PLAN, SCHEDULE, UPDATE.

SCOTT, YOU GOT THE FLOOR.

ALL RIGHT.

THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR.

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UH, INSIDE YOUR COMMITTEE PACKET WAS A REPORT ON THE SCHEDULE FOR THE, THE BUILDING PROJECT.

UH, SO WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT HAVING THE BID PACKET AVAILABLE ON JUNE 3RD, THAT'S WHAT, LATER ON WE'LL BE TALKING ABOUT THE 90% PLANS, UH, THAT WERE NEAR PLANS AND SPECIFICATIONS, COMPLETE COMPLETION.

UH, AS FAR AS THIS PROJECT IS CONCERNED WITH THE COMPLEXITY OF IT, WE ACTUALLY ARE HAVING A MANDATORY PRE-BID MEETING ON SITE.

THE CONTRACTORS COME USE A SITE.

AS YOU CAN IMAGINE, AN OLDER BUILDING LIKE THIS AND DIFFERENT PARTS OF THE BUILDING ARE OLDER THAN OTHERS AND MULTIPLE REITERATIONS OF, UH, UH, PAST RENOVATIONS.

UH, IT'S GOOD THAT THE CONTRACTS COME IN AND SEE EVERYTHING FIRSTHAND, UM, ON SITE.

SO, UH, WE'RE ANTICIPATING, UH, POTENTIALLY QUITE A LARGE GROUP THAT DAY.

UH, BUT WE WANNA MAKE SURE WE CAN GET THEM IN INTO THE BUILDING TO, TO SEE DIFFERENT LOCATIONS, UH, THAT THEY WOULD BE WORKING IN.

UH, THEN WITH THAT, THE BIDS WILL BE DUE ON JULY 1ST.

UH, WE DO USE DEMAND STAR SYSTEM.

THAT IS IMPORTANT TO KNOW.

THAT'S GONNA BE OUT THERE, UH, FOR THE WORLD TO SEE.

IT'S JUST NOT A ONE OR TWO SUBCONTRACTORS OR SUBCONTRACTORS THAT WE SEND IT TO.

WE CERTAINLY DO HAVE A RUNNING LIST THAT WE WILL EMAIL AS WELL, OUR PURCHASING DEPARTMENT, BUT WE DO PUT IT OUT THERE FOR THE PUBLIC.

'CAUSE WE, THIS WILL BE PUBLICLY BID CONSTRUCTION, ANTICIPATE TO START RIGHT IN AUGUST OF 2025, DEPENDING HOW QUICKLY WE CAN GET THE CONTRACTS COMPLETED.

THE CONTRACTOR HAS TO ORDER THEIR MATERIALS.

WE DON'T WANT THEM TO START FOR A WEEK AND THEN BE GONE FOR A MONTH, UH, TO MAKE SURE WE'RE, WE'RE KEEPING THAT THEM MOVING.

UH, WE DID TALK TO OUR ARCHITECTURAL TEAM.

UH, WE'RE LOOKING AT A COMPLETION DATE OF NOVEMBER OF 2026.

AND WITH THAT, WE'RE LOOKING AT, UH, SPLITTING THE WORK INTO ROUGHLY THREE PHASES.

AND I, I GOT THE PHASING PLAN IN THERE AS WELL, UH, TO MAKE SURE WE'RE TRYING TO KEEP THE BUILDING, UH, AS OPEN AND ACCESSIBLE AS POSSIBLE THROUGHOUT, THROUGHOUT THE PROJECT.

AND WE'RE LOOKING AT ROUGHLY A FIVE MINUTE, A FIVE MONTH, UH, EXCUSE ME, WINDOW FOR EACH PHASE.

WHEN THE CONTRACTOR WE DO SELECT GETS ON BOARD, UH, IF THEY HAVE SOME SLIGHT CHANGES TO THE PHASING BASED ON THEIR WORK, SOMETHING THEY MAY BE SEEING OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT, SOMETHING THAT CAN SAVE US SOME TIME AND EFFORT, WE ARE CERTAINLY OPEN TO THAT CONVERSATION ONCE THAT HAP ONCE THAT HAPPENS, YOU CAN IMAGINE THAT THERE ARE SOME, UH, AREAS IN THIS, UH, BUILDING WHERE THEY ARE NOT REALLY PHASED DEPENDENT.

I'M GONNA PICK ON THE CLERK'S, EXCUSE ME, THE COUNTY BOARD CHAIR'S OFFICE, FOR INSTANCE.

THAT COULD BE DONE IN PHASE ONE, PHASE TWO, OR PHASE THREE.

AND SO WE'VE GOT, IN THE PHASE, WE'RE TRYING TO BALANCE OUT THE PHASE WORK.

UH, BUT AGAIN, THE CONTRACTOR MIGHT HAVE A, A BETTER IDEA THAT, THAT WE CAN, THAT HE HAS OR SHE HAS THAT WE HAVEN'T SEEN YET.

SO, UH, WHEN WE SAY THAT THEY'RE ROUGHLY FIVE MONTHS A PIECE, THAT'S WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT IS THAT, UH, WE, WE WELCOME THAT CONTRACTOR TO PROVIDE SOME, SOME INSIGHT AND WE'LL WORK WITH THAT CONTRACTOR TO SEE IF THAT MAKES SENSE, AS, AS, AS PLAUSIBLE AND FEASIBLE.

SOMETHING MIGHT NOT WORK.

LIKE I'M NOT GONNA MOVE THE CLERK TILL THE END AND THAT JUST DOESN'T WORK OUT WITH MOVING THE BUILDING, ALL KIND OF STUFF.

BUT, UH, THEY HAVE SOME, SOME LOGIC BEHIND IT.

UH, WE'RE CERTAINLY OPEN AND THAT'S WHY THAT LAST SENTENCE IS IN THERE.

UH, THEY'RE SUBJECT TO CHANGE BECAUSE WE WANNA MAKE SURE, YOU KNOW, IF I'M TELLING THE CLERK, YOU'RE GONNA BE MOVED BY THIS DATE, BUT THEN SOMETHING ELSE HAPPENS OR GETS DELAYED, UM, YOU KNOW, IF THEY'RE GONNA HURRY UP THEIR FIRST PHASES OR TWO AND PUSH SOMETHING TO BE THIRD PHASE MIGHT MAKE SENSE TO BASED ON THE OPERATION.

SO, UM, WE'LL HAVE A LITTLE BIT OF FLEXIBILITY ON THAT, BUT WE DO WANNA TRY TO MAKE SURE WE'RE, WE'RE COMPLETED BY THAT NOVEMBER OF 2026.

UH, WITH THAT MR. CHAIR, IF I HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ON THE SCHEDULE, I CERTAINLY BE HAPPY TO ANSWER THEM.

ANY QUESTIONS, SUPERVISOR SCHWAB? THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.

UM, FIRST QUESTION IS WITH REGARD TO DEMAND STAR, I'M ASSUMING THIS IS GONNA BE A SINGLE PRIME BID AS A, SOME MUNICIPALITY USED MAN STAR FOR MULTIPLE PRIMES, BUT WE'RE NOT GONNA GO THAT WAY.

ONE SINGLE PRIME.

OKAY.

YES.

GOOD.

AND THEN THE OTHER QUESTION IS, UM, THE PHASING IS IMPORTANT ON THIS PROJECT AND, AND IT WOULD THEORETICALLY NOT BE TERRIBLY DIFFICULT FOR THE ARCHITECT TO CARRY OVER, AT LEAST, YOU KNOW, SOME OF THE PHASING SHADING TO SOME OF THE MEP DRAWINGS TO MAKE SURE THAT CARRIES THROUGH AS WELL.

SOMETIMES, UM, PEOPLE MISS THAT, BUT THAT MIGHT BE SOMETHING WHERE IT'S NOT TERRIBLY DIFFICULT TO DO, BUT COULD BE A SYSTEM OUR ARCHITECT IS, IS RIGHT BEHIND ME.

JASON PU STILL WITH PRA, UH, HE'S CERTAINLY ANSWERING ANY QUESTIONS.

HE WAS NODDING HIS HEAD IN AFFIRMATIVE THAT THAT WAS SOMETHING THEY CAN DO.

THANK YOU.

IT'S A GOOD IDEA.

THANK YOU.

EVEN IF IT'S JUST AN OUTLINE OF THE COLOR AND SHADING AND STUFF LIKE THAT.

YEP.

YEP.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? SEEING NONE, YOU WANNA GO OVER TO MASTER PLAN BUDGET UPDATE? YES.

THANK YOU.

UH, THE, THE NEXT, UH, REPORT THAT WAS IN THERE WAS THE, THE BUDGET UPDATE.

UH, YOU'LL SEE TWO PAGES OF, UH, BASICALLY A SPREADSHEET THAT YOU'RE LOOKING AT, UH, THROUGH THAT.

SO, UH, WE ARE STILL ANTICIPATING TO BE RIGHT AROUND THAT, I'LL CALL IT $7 MILLION FIGURE.

UM, IF YOU LOOK AT THE, THE DOLLAR AMOUNTS, THERE'S SOME, UH, CONTINGENCIES IN THERE AND, AND STUFF.

SO, UH, GENERATOR PROJECTS CERTAINLY.

SO YOU'LL SEE TWO PAGES OF THOSE, THOSE, UH, THOSE NUMBERS WRITTEN OUT.

WE'LL TALK ABOUT SOME TWO MINOR CHANGES THAT WERE MADE TO THE PLANS THAT,

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THAT DIDN'T REALLY HAVE A, AN IMPACT ON THE BUDGET, BUT WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT, UH, YOU SAW THE NUMBERS KIND OF BROKEN DOWN.

AND AT THE END OF THAT, UH, THE BID PACKET THERE, UH, OF THE $7 MILLION, UH, YOU'LL SEE SEVERAL ALTERNATES LISTED.

UH, 2, 3, 4, 5, 5 AND SIX.

UH, WHEN WE SAY NEW FINISHES IN THE DISTRICT ATTORNEY SUITE, HUMAN RESOURCES SUITE, UH, FINANCE SUITE, WHAT WE'RE LOOKING FOR IS SOME PAINTING AND SOME FLOORING.

UM, AND SO, UH, YOU CAN IMAGINE CERTAIN AREAS WHERE IF YOU'RE DOING ALL THIS WORK AND REMODELING AND LEAVING THE FLOORING IN PLACE, IT MIGHT MAKE SENSE TO GET THE WHOLE BUILDING, UH, RE FLOORED FRESH COAT OF PAINT ONCE YOU'RE ALL SET AND DONE.

UM, SO THERE'S OTHER AREAS, UM, SO THEY'RE KIND OF LISTED OUT THERE, UH, BROKEN DOWN BY THOSE AREAS TO SEE HOW THE, THE FUNDING'S, UM, GONNA GONNA LIE OUT.

BUT, UH, UH, I'LL PICK ON AGAIN, THE, THE COUNTY BOARD'S OFFICE, UH, CURRENTLY HAS NEW CARPETING.

A COUPLE OTHER OFFICES IN THAT AREA DO HAVE NEW CARPETING, BUT THE HALLWAY'S GOT THE OLD CARPETING YET, RIGHT WHERE IT MIGHT MAKE SENSE TO, OKAY, IF WE HAVE THE CONTRACTOR ON SITE DOING ALL THIS CARPETING IN THE BUILDING ANYWAY, LET'S JUST DO THAT AT THE SAME TIME.

UH, WE DID GO IN AND INVENTORY AND LOOK AT ALL THE CARPETING AS WELL.

UH, MOST OF IT'S IN, I'LL CALL FAIR SHAPE, UH, NOT LIKE BRAND NEW, UH, BUT WE'VE BEEN USING THE, THE, I'LL CALL IT A GRAY SQUARE CARPETING, UH, YOU'VE PROBABLY SEEN THROUGHOUT, NOT IT'S A DARKER COLOR THAN WHAT'S IN THIS ROOM CURRENTLY.

UH, BUT UTILIZING THAT LETS US TO, IF SOMETHING HAPPENS TO PULL UP A SQUARE AND PUT A NEW SQUARE IN ITS PLACE AND, AND MOVE ON, MOVE ON OUR WAY.

BUT, UH, THAT'S WHERE YOU SEE THOSE, THOSE ALTERNATES BID IN THERE SINCE WE'LL BE WORKING THOSE AREAS.

ANYWAY, IN REGARD TO, REMEMBER WE'RE PUTTING LED LIGHTING IN THOSE AREAS AS WELL, AGAIN, SOME OTHER CONSTRUCTION IN THOSE AREAS.

SO, UM, IT ALLOWS US TO MAYBE POTENTIALLY COMPLETE THAT BUILDING.

BUT AGAIN, THOSE WILL BE ALTERNATE BIDS.

UM, IN THE PACKET.

I NOTICED THE ALTERNATES, UH, YOU'RE MISSING ONE, BUT IT, WHEN I LOOKED THROUGH THE SPEC BOOK, I THINK YOUR TWO IS NUMBER ONE, THREE IS NUMBER TWO IN THE SPEC.

I THINK IT JUST WAS DIFFERENT NUMBERED OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.

IT, IT COULD BE, IT WAS KIND OF WEIRD THAT IT WASN'T NUMBER ONE, SO, RIGHT.

WE'LL MAKE SURE THAT THEY'RE NUMBERED PROPERLY FOR THE BID.

YES, AS LONG AS IT'S ON THE, IN, IN THE INVITE, RIGHT.

THE BID DOCUMENTS, THE RIGHT WAY.

MM-HMM .

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? SUPERVISOR SCHWAB, THERE ARE A COUPLE ITEMS IN THE BUDGET.

ONE ON OVERALL AND ONE ON SITE THAT ARE LISTED AS ZERO.

ARE THOSE ITEMS THAT WERE ALWAYS ZERO OR WAS THERE, DID WE CONSIDERATION OF DOING THOSE ITEMS WAS JUST ELIMINATED? UH, SO FOR REDUNDANT SECONDARY WATER AND YEAH, THERE WERE TWO OF THEM GOING IN THERE.

UH, ONE WAS, UM, I'LL START WITH THE REDUNDANT SECONDARY WATER SERVICE.

UH, WE HAD THE ARCHITECT TEAM LOOK AT VARIOUS OPTIONS TO LOOK AT WHAT THAT WOULD LOOK LIKE.

MARY CALL, WE'VE HAD, UH, TWO WATER MAIN LATERAL BREAKS TO THE SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT OVER THE COURSE SINCE 2017.

UM, I BELIEVE THE FIRST ONE WAS 17 OR 18.

IT WAS BEFORE 18.

YEAH, BEFORE 18.

SO 2017 AND AGAIN LAST YEAR.

AND SO WE, IT, THE JAIL IS SERVED BY ONE WATER MAIN COMING THROUGH IT.

SO THE JAIL IS SERVED OFF OF ROS AVENUE.

SO WE'RE GOING PAST THE FUEL ISLAND.

THE BOARDROOM HERE IN THE GOVERNMENT CENTER SERVED OFF OF A SERVICE FROM 33, UH, THREE IN SERVICE.

WE THOUGHT MAYBE THAT WAS LARGE ENOUGH TO ACTUALLY RUN THROUGH THE BUILDING TO GET BACK TO THE SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT, BUT BEING ONLY THREE INCH AND ALL THE BENDS AND ALL KIND OF STUFF, IT JUST WASN'T ENOUGH WATER PRESSURE TO GET ALL THE WAY BACK TO THE JAIL AND UP TO SERVICE.

SO WE THOUGHT, WELL, OKAY, IF WE COULD FIND A LESS EXPENSIVE WAY, LET'S TRY THAT.

THEY LOOK AT OTHER OPTIONS GOING WELL, WE CAN GO DOWN WILSON AVENUE, WHICH IS BEHIND BY FAIR PARK SCHOOL, GO THROUGH THE NEW PARKING LOT, COME INTO THE BUILDING AND GO THROUGH THE BUILDING, UM, TO GET TO THERE.

UH, IT WAS A RATHER EXPENSIVE OPTION.

AND SO WE KINDA LANDED ON WAS WHAT WE'RE REALLY CLOSE TO BUDGET IF AND WHEN THIS NEW BUILDING GETS PUT IN.

IF IT DOES, THAT'D BE A GREAT TIME TO BRING IN A NEW WATER SERVICE FROM ROLLS SERVICE, THAT NEW BUILDING SERVICE, THE SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT.

UM, IF IT DOESN'T, UH, THEN WE HAVE THE OPTION OF PUTTING IN THE CIPA NEW WATER LATERAL FROM ROLLS OVER TO THE, THE SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT AT THAT POINT, UM, OR POTENTIALLY BORE UNDERNEATH HIGHWAY 33 FOR THAT BUILDING WATER SERVICE.

'CAUSE THAT WOULD PROBABLY NEED SPRINKLERS AND EVERYTHING ELSE.

SO WE FIGURED, WELL, SINCE WE DON'T REALLY HAVE THE THE END PLAN YET FOR THAT BUILDING, IT MIGHT BE BEST TO TO WAIT, UM, AND SIZE IT APPROPRIATELY FOR THAT BUILDING AND EVERYTHING ELSE DOING WELL, WE CAN ADD IT ONTO THAT PROJECT.

WE HAVE WORKED WITH THE SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT.

THEY ARE, UM, KNOWLEDGEABLE ON THIS.

THEY WERE CERTAINLY DISAPPOINTED THAT THE WATER WOULDN'T WORK FROM THE FRONT OF THE BUILDING TO THE BACK OF THE BUILDING.

UM, IT, IT JUST TOO LONG OF A RUN AND, AND NOT ENOUGH WATER PRESSURE COMING IN THE BUILDING.

UM, AND SO THAT WAS WHY THAT WAS TAKEN OUT GOING, IT MIGHT BE A BETTER, BETTER DECISION TO, LET'S WAIT TO SEE WHAT WE'RE GONNA DO WITH THE OTHER BUILDING POTENTIALLY AND DO IT AT THAT PARTICULAR TIME BECAUSE WE MIGHT BE ABLE TO COME OFF OF 33 BORN TO SERVICE THAT BUILDING, GO TO THE THERE AND WHATNOT.

WE COULD ALSO LOOP THE WATER MAIN AROUND THE SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT 'CAUSE IT COMES IN OFF OF WILSON AND GO ALL THE WAY AROUND.

UH, BUT THE BUDGET WOULDN'T HANDLE THAT TYPE OF

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A WORK.

THAT JUST, IT'S JUST TOO MUCH.

AND ALSO YOU HAVE TO START WORRYING ABOUT, UH, UH, HEAVY STAGNANT WATER AS WELL, DEPENDING ON HOW YOU DO IT.

YOU JUST CAN'T HAVE WATER SEEING THE PIPE FOR FIVE YEARS AND THEN, OH, WE'RE JUST GONNA TURN A VALVE ON AND HAVE THE, YOU KNOW, POPULATION DRINK OUT OF IT AND GET SICK.

SO WE LOOKED AT, AT VARYING OPTIONS, BUT THAT'S WHY THAT LINE WAS, WAS ZEROED OUT.

UH, CERTAINLY CAN ANSWER MORE QUESTIONS ON THAT ONE, BUT THE OTHER ONE WAS A WEST PARKING LOT.

UH, YOU MAY RECALL.

THAT WAS, WE LOOKED AT DOING SOME SECURITY UPDATES TO THAT, PUTTING SOME JERSEY BERRIES AROUND.

UH, IT WAS DETERMINED INSTEAD, IT MIGHT BE BETTER OFF JUST TO PUT SOME BARRICADES UP ALONG 33 DIRECTED PEOPLE DOWN TO THIS NEW EASTERN ENTRANCE.

AND THAT'S IT.

AND THEN ONCE, LET'S SAY A YEAR AFTER THAT, SO PEOPLE ARE MORE IN TUNE TO GETTING TO THE EAST, REMOVE THE BARRICADES IN THE MEANTIME.

UM, THE SCHOOL FAIR PARKS ELEMENTARY SCHOOL IS GONNA BE CLOSING IN 2027, SO WE WON'T HAVE THE DRIVERS NEEDING TO GET THROUGH THERE AT CERTAIN TIMES OF DAY.

UH, AND SO THAT WAS DIFFERENT.

LET'S NOT PUT IT AS A SECURE PARKING LOT.

LET'S JUST LEAVE IT AS A PARKING LOT.

WE'LL PUT UP SOME TEMPORARY BARRICADES, TAKE THEM DOWN.

UM, AND SO WE'RE GONNA HAVE SECURE ENTRANCE AND MOST OTHER PEOPLE ARE GONNA BE COMING IN THE OTHER ENTRANCE.

DIDN'T MAKE SENSE TO DO A SECURE LOT OVER ON THAT SIDE BECAUSE IT'S DE FACTO THE PUBLIC SHOULDN'T BE COMING THROUGH THERE ANYMORE.

ANYWAY, SO THOSE TWO LINE ENDS WERE, WERE ZEROED OUT AND, UM, JUST HAPPENED TO BE WORKED OUT MATHEMATICALLY.

THAT STILL KEEPS US RIGHT ON.

ITS $7 MILLION.

THANK YOU FOR THOSE EXPLANATIONS.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? ARE WE GOOD WITH THE, UH, BUDGET UPDATE THEN? AND WE CAN MOVE ON TO ITEM C REVIEW OF THE GOVERNMENT CENTER BUILDING PLANS, ALL 700 OF THEM ? YES, I, I APOLOGIZE FOR THE LENGTH OF OF PAGES, BUT, UH, IT IS A RATHER DETAILED, UM, SURE.

DETAILED PROJECT.

UH, WHAT I DO WANNA POINT OUT IS, UH, A COUPLE MODIFICATIONS SINCE THE LAST TIME WE MET.

UH, BOTH ARE ON IN THE FIRST FLOOR AND I'LL HAVE 'EM UP ON THE SCREEN AND I'LL, I'LL ZOOM IN, UH, ON THOSE AREAS FOR YOU IN THE CLERK'S OFFICE AND THE REGISTER OF DEED'S OFFICE AND THE MAIL ROOM RIGHT ACROSS THE HALL.

SO AGAIN, THE MAIN ENTRANCE, SECURE LOBBY ON THE EAST SIDE OF THE BUILDING COMING THROUGH THE HALLWAY.

UH, WE DID PUT A, A DOORWAY GOING IN THERE.

UM, IT'LL BE OPEN AGAIN 99% OF THE TIME.

UH, THAT'LL ALLOW THE, UH, SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT, IF THEY WANT TO KEEP A THREAT IN THE LOBBY, TO ACTUALLY HIT A BUTTON, CLOSE THAT DOOR AND A THREAT.

IF THEY SEE IT COMING INTO THE BUILDING OR IS IN THE LOBBY, THEY CAN SHUT THAT DOOR DOWN AND KEEP THAT THREAT WITHOUT HAVING THEM, UH, GO INTO THE BUILDING PROPER ADMINISTRATIVE BUILDINGS.

THAT WAS ONE OF THE ADDITIONS.

UH, NUMBER TWO IS, YOU MAY RECALL IN THE CLERK'S OFFICE, WHICH IS IN THE, THE AREA HIGHLIGHTED IN THE BOTTOM RIGHT HERE, UH, WE DID HAVE A, A STORAGE AREA AS WELL AS A CONFERENCE ROOM.

UH, WE JUST HAD A RECENT ADDITION TO THE CLERK'S OFFICE, UM, AND THEY NEEDED AN EXTRA, UH, CUBICLE IN THEIR OFFICE.

SO WE ADDED THAT, REMOVED THAT THE CONFERENCE HALL, CONFERENCE ROOM, PUT IT DOWN BELOW THAT, REMOVE THEIR STORAGE, PUT IN A, UH, CUBICLE IN THERE, AND THEN THE MAIL ROOM ACROSS THE HALL.

UH, WE ADDED A WALL IN THAT LOCATION, ENOUGH ROOM FOR MAIL, AND THEN A WALL THAT'LL BE THE CLERK STORAGE WOULD BE RIGHT ACROSS THE HALL FROM THEM.

IF YOU LOOK AT UP HAVING, HAVING A WALL IN THIS LOCATION, A WALL DOWN HERE, AND A DOOR VERSUS A WALL IN THIS LOCATION, A DOOR, IT'S PRETTY CLOSE TO A WASH AS FAR AS CONSTRUCTABILITY IS CONCERNED.

UM, AND SO WE LOOKED AT THAT GOING, OKAY, WE CAN MAKE THAT CHANGE RELATIVELY QUICKLY WITHOUT ANY REALLY MAJOR IMPACT TO THE BUDGET.

UH, WE DID WORK WITH THE CLERK'S OFFICE AS WELL ON THE DIFFERENT OPTIONS AND HOW THAT WOULD WORK OUT AND LAYOUT AND, AND SHE IS IN AGREEANCE WITH, WITH THAT.

THE OTHER CHANGE WAS IN THE, UH, REGISTER OF DEEDS OFFICE SHIFTED A LITTLE BIT.

UH, WE ACTUALLY HAD THE ARCHITECTURAL TEAM PUT IN ALL OF THEIR REGISTERED DEEDS BOOKS, UH, ONE HIGH, TOO HIGH AND, UH, UH, WORKED WITH, UH, STAFF HERE TO GET THAT RECONFIGURED.

UH, THAT WALL BETWEEN THEM THEN HAD TO SLIDE A LITTLE BIT UP TOWARDS THE NORTH, UH, UP YOUR PAGE.

UM, AND THEN A COMP, UH, ACCORDINGLY.

THEN WE MOVED THE TREASURER'S OFFICE UP TO THE TOP AGAIN.

UM, AND THE REGISTER DEEDS OFFICE WOULD BE IN THIS LOCATION.

UH, SO OVERALL, NO CHANGE OF THE OVERALL FOOTPRINT IS KINDA HOW THE INTERIOR WAS.

UH, A LITTLE SHIFTED AND, AND, UH, MOVED AROUND A LITTLE BIT TO ACCOMMODATE ALL THE BOOKS AT THE REGISTER DEEDS OFFICE.

UM, UH, DESIRES TO BEING THERE.

THEY DO HAVE A STORAGE AREA RIGHT DOWN THE HALL FROM THEM AS WELL, UM, UH, BEING ONE OF THESE AREAS.

THEN THE LOWER LEFT CORNER, MY CURS IS WOULD BE, UH, THIS ONE WOULD BE CORRECT.

THAT'S THE ONE.

YEP, THAT'LL BE THE REGISTERED EACH STORAGE AS AS WELL.

SO AGAIN, NOT TOO FAR AWAY, UH, BUT THEY WANTED TO HAVE A LITTLE MORE OF THEIR POTENTIALLY ROUTINE BOOKS, UM, IN THEIR OFFICE, UH, AND VERSUS HAVING TO GO DOWN THE HALL, UH, TO THAT, THAT STORAGE AREA IN THAT LOCATION.

SO WE DID A INTERIOR WALL SHIFT AND WE WORKED TO THE TREASURER AND REGISTERED DEEDS TO MAKE SURE THEY WERE, UM, UNDERSTANDABLE AND ACCOMMODATING AND, AND, UH, WE APPRECIATE THEIR, THEIR LOOK AT THAT AND, AND BEING ABLE TO BE FLEXIBLE IN THEIR AREAS.

SO AGAIN, NO, NO CHANGE TO THE OVERALL SQUARE FOOTAGE.

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AGAIN, INTERIORLY, INTERIOR SPEAKING, SAME AMOUNT OF WALLS, DOORS, ALL THAT KIND OF STUFF.

JUST A LITTLE BIT OF A SHIFTING AROUND A LITTLE BIT.

THAT'S KIND OF THE, THE MAJOR CHANGE, UH, SINCE THE LAST TIME YOU'VE SEEN THE PLANS.

OBVIOUSLY WE'RE GETTING MORE AND MORE DETAILED EVERY DAY.

UM, AS YOU LOOK THROUGH THOSE AND, AND SPECIFICATIONS.

UM, WE'VE MEET, BEEN MEETING WITH, UH, DIFFERENT DEPARTMENTS ON, UH, STUFF LIKE CARD READER ACCESS AND, AND KEYS AND STUFF.

UH, WORK WITH IT TO MAKE SURE YOU HAVE THE DATA DROPS IN THE RIGHT LOCATION AND THE ZOOM ROOMS AND, AND ALL THAT STUFF.

SO, UM, IT'S BEEN A, A QUITE A BIG LIFT FOR KARA AND HER TEAM.

WE APPRECIATE HER, HER WORK AND, AND JASON'S AND, AND HIS STAFF'S, UH, ATTENTION TO DETAIL.

UH, 'CAUSE YOU DON'T WANT TO FORGET ONE LITTLE THING, BELIEVE IT OR NOT, AND THERE'S THOUSANDS OF THINGS YOU COULD FORGET.

UH, AND THEY'VE BEEN DOING A, A REALLY GOOD JOB OF MAKING SURE THAT WE DON'T FORGET 'EM AND, AND HAVING A NICE TEAM TOGETHER THAT IS LOOKING AT IT AND, AND HAS EACH OTHER'S BACKS AND IS, HEY, DON'T FORGET THIS.

AND WE WERE JUST TALKING ABOUT SOMETHING A LITTLE EARLIER WITH THE, THE SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT IN THE ROOM TOO, GOING, HEY, IF YOU GOT A COUPLE MINUTES AFTER THIS, WE'D LIKE TO GO OUT AND ACTUALLY PUT YOUR HANDS ON IT AND SAY, THIS IS WHAT WE'RE DOING RIGHT HERE.

IS THAT WHAT YOU'RE LOOKING FOR? UM, VERSUS AGAIN, THEM LOOKING THROUGH 700 PAGES OF PLANS FOR A SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT.

IT'S NOT THEIR NORMAL DUTIES AND TASKS.

SO, UM, WITH THAT, CERTAINLY BE HAPPY TO, TO GO THROUGH THE PHASING PLAN WITH YOU IF YOU'D LIKE, OR GO THROUGH THE BUILDING PLANS IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS.

LIKE I SAID, JASON, UH, WITH PRA IS HEARING AND CERTAINLY, UH, ANSWER THOSE.

WE ARE DOING THE, THE PAGE TURNING, UH, MEETING THIS THURSDAY MORNING, 9:00 AM CORRECT, 9:00 AM UH, THAT'S WHERE YOU ACTUALLY GO PAGE BY PAGE AND LOOKING AT EVERYTHING WITH, WITH THE WHOLE TEAM, EVEN INCLUDING THE MECHANICALS AND ALL THAT STUFF TO MAKE SURE WE DIDN'T, DIDN'T MISS ANYTHING.

SO IT'D BE A NICE, UH, HIGHLY DETAILED AND, AND LENGTHY MEETING.

SO, UH, THE ONE QUESTION I HAVE IS SOMEWHERE IN HERE, AND I DON'T KNOW IF IT WAS IN THE GC SECTION OF THE SPEC, NOT THAT I READ EVERY PAGE, BUT IT SAID THAT THE ARCHITECT WOULD REVIEW, UM, ONE TIME OR ONCE AT THE END, YOU KNOW, FOR LIKE PUNCH LIST ITEMS. IF THERE'S THREE PHASES, DON'T WE DO THAT AT THE END OF EACH PHASE? OR WAS THAT JUST A GENERAL SPEC? SOMETHING THAT I READ? UH, AND I, I WISH I COULD TELL YOU WHERE, BUT I CAN'T FIND IT RIGHT NOW.

IT'LL BE ONE TIME IN EACH PHASE.

ONE TIME, YEAH.

THAT WAY YOU CAN PUNCH IT OUT, GET DONE, AND EVERYBODY MOVES IN AND THEN YOU MOVE ON TO THE NEXT ONE.

YES.

WE DEFINITELY DON'T WANT THEM COMING BACK TO FIX LIGHT OR A HOLE IN THE WALL OR SOMETHING.

YEP.

YEAH.

OKAY.

THAT'S ABOUT THE ONLY QUESTION I HAD, UH, SUPERVISOR SCHWAB.

THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.

UM, AS WE'RE LOOKING AT THESE, I'M JUST GONNA, SO THAT EVERYBODY CAN FOLLOW ALONG, GIVE YOU PAGE NUMBERS THAT I'M LOOKING AT.

UM, FIRST OF ALL, AS, AND I'VE SPENT MORE TIME LOOKING AT THE ELECTRICAL THAN ANYTHING ELSE, AND I APPRECIATE HAVING A WALKTHROUGH, BUT WITH THE AMOUNT OF DETAIL THAT'S ON THESE DRAWINGS, IF WE COULD GET THE, AS-BUILTS OR THE, OR THE LAST PROJECT DOCUMENTS INCLUDED RIGHT AWAY, OTHERWISE THERE'S, THE WALKTHROUGH IS GONNA TAKE A LOT OF TIME FOR ANYBODY WHO'S GONNA BE DILIGENT LOOKING AT THE AMOUNT OF THINGS THAT NEED TO BE, UM, DEMOED OR, OR WHERE THINGS ARE EXISTING TO REMAIN IF THEY'RE, YOU KNOW, WHERE THOSE THINGS ARE.

SO IF THAT'S POSSIBLE, THAT WOULD BE VERY HELPFUL.

UM, THEN LOOKING AT PAGE 75, WHICH IS THE SITE LIGHTING DRAWING E 0 0 1.

AND I UNDERSTAND THESE ARE ONLY 90% DRAWINGS, SO I'M HOPING THAT, THAT SOME OF THE REST OF THIS WILL GET FILLED IN, BUT AS WE'RE LOOKING AT THE DRAWING, ESPECIALLY OVER IN THE PARKING LOT AND TRYING TO GET THAT COMPLETE, IT WOULD BE VERY HELPFUL FOR ANYBODY TRYING TO BID THE JOB TO SEE, UM, RATHER THAN A NOTE THAT SAYS PICK UP FEEDS FOR OTHER POLES, TO KNOW WHAT CONDUCTORS ARE IN THERE, WHEN, WHERE THEY HAVE TO GO.

OTHERWISE, THERE'S GONNA BE A LOT OF SPECULATION.

THERE COULD BE A LOT OF, UM, DIFFERENCES IN BIDS THAT WAY, AND WE MAY NOT, UM, END UP WITH A PRODUCT THAT WE WANT.

LIKEWISE, WHERE IT SAYS EXTEND THE CONDUIT, EXTEND TO WHERE, AND THE EMPTY CONDUIT.

OKAY, YEP.

IT'S GOOD IDEA.

WHERE'S IT COMING FROM, WHERE'S IT GOING TO, WHAT SIZE, ALL THAT OTHER GOOD STUFF.

AND JUST THIS THINGS OF THAT NATURE ON THAT DRAWING.

I UNDERSTAND THEY'RE, THEY'RE NOT QUITE COMPLETE YET, BUT, UM, THAT WOULD BE VERY HELPFUL.

AND THEN, YOU KNOW, BASICALLY IN MY PREVIOUS COMMENT WITH REGARD TO THE, AS-BUILTS, THE DRAWINGS, UH, THE DEMO DRAWINGS STARTING ON PAGE 78, E 1 0 2, UM, YEAH, THERE'S, THERE'S SEVERAL NOTES WHERE IT SAYS, YEAH, DEMO EVERYTHING.

OKAY, IF IT'S GONNA BE A CLEAN DEMO, THAT THAT'S FINE, BUT IF THERE'S A STUFF IN THERE THAT'S GONNA BE EXISTING TO REMAIN

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THE, THE AS-BUILTS WILL BE REALLY NECESSARY AS WELL.

JUST, YEAH, WE COULD GO THROUGH ON A WALKTHROUGH AND TAKE A LOT OF TIME, BUT IF THE OLD DRAWINGS ARE PRESENT, THAT WOULD BE VERY HELPFUL.

THAT APPLIES ALSO ON, UM, E 200 L PAGES 80 AND 81 WITH REGARD TO LIGHTING AND POWER.

SOME OF THE SWITCHES ARE REMAINING, SOME OF THE RECEPTACLES ARE REMAINING, SOME OF THE, UH, FIRE ALARM DEVICES ARE REMAINING JUST TO KNOW WHERE THE EXISTING ONES ARE, WHERE THEY'RE SUPPOSED TO BE.

AND THOSE WERE ALL THE COMMENTS I HAD ON THE DRAWINGS.

TOO MANY CONTRACTORS ON THIS BOARD, HUH? ? NO, THIS IS FANTASTIC.

THIS IS WHAT WE'RE LOOKING FOR.

THIS IS EXACTLY WHAT WE'RE LOOKING FOR, IS, IS THOSE COMMENTS TO MAKE, UH, MAKE THE BID THE BEST BID WE CAN POSSIBLY GET.

I DO NOT KNOW IF IT WOULD HELP OR NOT, BUT NOW THAT HE WAS MENTIONING THAT WHEN I WAS LOOKING AT THE PLANS, I NOTICED THAT WITH THE NEW BUILDS, THERE IS A BIG OVERALL PLAN THAT SHOWS ALL THE REMODELING GOING ON AND A NEW LAYOUT.

WHAT I DIDN'T SEE WAS ANYTHING THAT SHOWS THE EXISTING AND THE PARTS THAT HAVE TO BE DEMOED, THOSE WERE BROKEN OUT INTO EACH INDIVIDUAL POD FOR EACH PHASE.

I DON'T KNOW IF IT PAYS TO HAVE, IF IT'S EASY ENOUGH TO DO ON A CAD DRAWING, IF THEY CAN JUST SHOW THE EXISTING AND WHAT AREAS GET DEMOED IN ON ONE PAGE, YOU KNOW, LIKE THEY DO WITH YEAH, LIKE AN OVERALL DEMO PLAN VERSUS A JUST IN THE, AGAIN, THIS IS JUST ME THINKING OUT LOUD AS, AS I'M BIDDING STUFF TOO.

IT'S KIND OF WHAT I LOOK FOR AND THEN I GO TO THE INDIVIDUAL AREAS TO, TO KIND OF TIE IT ALL IN.

YES, THAT'S FEASIBLE.

, THAT WOULD BE MY ONLY QUESTION, AGAIN, AS A CONTRACTOR NOW, BACK AS A COUNTY BOARD GUY, IS THERE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? NOPE.

OKAY, GO AHEAD.

SHALL ON THE DRAWING WE WERE LOOKING AT BEFORE BY THE BEHIND THE CLERK'S OFFICE AND REGISTER OF DEEDS, THERE'S A WOMEN'S RESTROOM, BUT I DON'T SEE A MEN'S RESTROOM IN THAT AREA AT ALL.

UH, THE MEN WILL GET A LITTLE BIT MORE EXERCISE.

UH, THEY'LL BE COMING DOWN TO THE, THERE'S A RESTROOM RIGHT? UH, DOWN THE HALLWAY TO MY RIGHT, THE ONE THAT'S HERE NOW? YEAH, THE EXISTING HALL.

THE EXISTING RESTROOM, YES.

LET GET TO THE, THE FIRST FLOOR PLANS HERE.

UH, AND WE'RE HERE NOW.

SO THE TREASURER AND THE REGISTER DEED OR THE YEAH, SO THE, THE, THE WOMEN'S ROOM IS, UH, IN ITS CURRENT LOCATION, I REMEMBER THAT WAS, UH, REMODELED AS PART OF OUR A-D-A-C-D-B-G COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT BLOCK GRANT PROGRAM.

UH, SO THE WOMEN'S LADIES ROOM WOULD BE IN THIS LOCATION.

UH, THE COUNTY BOARDROOM IS IN THE LOWER LEFT HAND CORNER.

MM-HMM .

OF THE DRAWING HERE.

AND THE, ONE OF THE MEN'S RESTROOM IS AT THE END OF THE HALLWAY, UH, KIND OF KITTY CAR FROM HERE.

AND AS YOU EXIT THE BUILDING NOW, THAT'S GONNA BE BEHIND, UH, THE, ON THE EMPLOYEE ONLY SIDE.

UH, THERE'S ANOTHER MEN'S RESTROOM DOWN THERE, SO THANK YOU.

YEP.

SUPERVISOR KREBS, THIS IS MORE FOR THE CONTRACTOR WALKTHROUGH AND STUFF, BUT WHAT, WHAT TYPE OF DIRECTION WOULD BE GIVEN TO THEM FOR LIKE LAY DOWN AREAS, UH, STAGING AREAS, STUFF LIKE THAT? YEAH, UH, WE'RE LOOKING AT, UH, IN OUR, OUR SECURED PARKING LOT, RIGHT BEHIND THE BUILDING, UH, LOWER LEVEL, UH, IS WHERE THEY'D BE ABLE TO HAVE THEIR TRAILERS AND STUFF.

UNFORTUNATELY, WITH THE, THE WAY THE CONFIGURATION IS GOING, WE'RE BASICALLY WE'RE TAKING THE, UH, CONFERENCE ROOMS FIRST AND USING THOSE FOR, AND CREATING THOSE AREAS LIKE WHERE THE RIGHT ACROSS FROM THE COUNTY CLERK'S OFFICES AS A ROOM, UM, THAT WE'RE GONNA BE UTILIZING FIRST TO CONSTRUCT.

SAME THING WITH THE TWO ROOMS ACROSS THE HALLWAY CONSTRUCT.

SO THERE MIGHT NOT BE A LOT OF ROOM INSIDE THE BUILDING, UH, ESPECIALLY DURING THOSE FIRST PHASES TO ACTUALLY HAVE ANY CONSTRUCTION, LARGE AREAS IN HERE TO ACTUALLY STORE MATERIAL.

SO THAT'LL PROBABLY BRING A TRAILER IN RIGHT OUTSIDE THE DOOR, AGAIN, WITHIN THE SECURE LOT, RIGHT NEXT TO THE SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT DEPARTMENT.

UM, I THINK THAT'S WHAT WE'RE PLANNING RIGHT NOW, RIGHT? YEAH.

TRAILERS, CONTAINERS, THAT, TRAILERS, CONTAINERS, DUMPSTERS, UM, THE, THE LOWER LOT THAT'S BEHIND HERE, UH, WE'LL MAKE SURE THAT CERTAIN PEOPLE THAT ARE NEEDING A SECURE ENTRANCE WILL BE, HAVE THEIR, THEIR, THEIR VEHICLES PARKED BACK THERE.

BUT, UH, PICK ON KARA AND HER TEAM AND FACILITIES.

THEY WON'T BE PARKING DOWN HERE.

THEY KNOW IT ALREADY.

UM, WON'T BE PARKING DOWN IN THAT SECURE LOT DURING THIS CONSTRUCTION.

THEY'LL BE UP IN THE WESTERN LOT, UH, WITH EVERYBODY ELSE.

SO, UH, THEY'LL HAVE ROOM DOWN THERE TO MAKE SURE THAT THE CONTRACTOR HAS, UH, OPEN ACCESS DOWN THERE AND THEY'LL HAVE ACCESS TO THAT, THOSE DOORS AGAIN.

AND THEN, UM, GETTING THROUGH AND WORKING WITH THE SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT WHEN THEY

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HAVE TO GET SECURE ENTRANCE INTO THE JUSTICE CENTER TO DO WORK OVER THERE.

OKAY.

UM, NEXT QUESTION THAT WOULD BE RELATED TO, UM, PERMITS AND INSPECTIONS.

HAVING NOT BEEN A PART OF A MORE MUNICIPAL TYPE PROJECT, I KNOW FROM OTHER COUNTY DISCUSSIONS ON OTHER PROPERTIES, WE OPERATE UNDERNEATH OUR OWN ZONING CODES.

SO LIKE WHO, WHAT BUILDING PERMITS DO WE NEED ON OUR OWN PROJECTS? WE STILL HAVE ALL THE PERMITS, RIGHT? YEAH.

WE, UH, WITH THE OLD ZONING CODE, YES, THERE'S DIFFERENT MUNICIPALITIES HANDLED A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENTLY.

UM, THE CITY OF WEST BEND WILL GET ALL THE PERMITS FOR THEM.

THEY'LL BE COMING OUT THERE, THEIR ELECTRICAL INSPECTOR, JOSH, THAT STILL MIGHT BE IT.

UM, PLUMBING INSPECTOR WILL BE IN THE BUILDING.

OKAY.

SO WE, UH, IT'S, IT'S LIKE A TRADITIONAL PROJECT.

YES.

WE'RE NOT TREATING, YES.

WHEN WE DID THIS PARTICULAR ROOM, FOR INSTANCE, IT WAS, WE GOT THE PERMITS FROM THEM, THEY CAME INTO THE INSPECTIONS, EVERYTHING ELSE.

UH, OUR FAIR PARK'S A LITTLE DIFFERENT WAY TO TOWN OF POLE CANDLES, THINGS, UH, THEY LIKE TO PUSH THAT OFF TO THE STATE.

UM, THE STATE DOES THE INSPECTIONS OUT THERE, THAT'S THEIR, THEIR DECISION.

BUT IN THE CITY WEST BEND, UH, NOW I'VE NOT TOUCHED BASE WITH THEM YET ON THIS PROJECT AND MAYBE THE ARCHITECTURAL TEAM HAS, UH, BUT UM, THAT'S MY UNDERSTANDING IS WHAT WE'LL BE DOING.

OKAY.

UM, AND THEN YES, EXACTLY IS WHAT IT, YEP.

OKAY.

AND THEN, UH, WE TALKED BRIEFLY ABOUT THE PHASING BEFORE.

HOW WILL THE WARRANTY OF THE PROJECT WORK IN COORDINATION WITH THE PHASING? WILL IT BE KIND OF AS WE DO OUR PUNCH LIST ON PHASE ONE, WARRANTY ON THAT AREA STARTS AND KIND OF HAVE A ROLLING STEP TO COACH TO, TO IT? OR IS IT AT FINAL PAYMENT, FINAL COMPLETION THAT WE WOULD, UH, HAVE A SIGN OFF IF YOU'RE OKAY? CAN I HAVE THE ARCHITECT SPEAK TO THAT? YEAH, THAT'S A GREAT QUESTION.

UM, WE'RE GONNA PUT THE, UH, FRONT END TOGETHER ON SOME OF THE STUFF WE'RE WORKING WITH BILL AND PURCHASING, BUT WE WANTED TO START AT THAT ABSOLUTE END DATE, THE NOVEMBER OF 26TH DATE, AS OPPOSED TO HAVING ALL THESE STAGGERED, UM, REMODELS.

NOW, OBVIOUSLY THAT'S GONNA HAVE A SLIGHT COST IMPACT, BUT IF IT'S KNOWN UPFRONT SHOULD BE MINIMAL AND CONTRACTORS SHOULD BE, UM, UNDERSTANDING THAT GOING IN.

OKAY.

SO AT LEAST WE HAVE A NICE CLEAN ONE DATE THAT'S YES.

OKAY, THANK YOU.

AND MY UNDERSTANDING TOO IS THAT THAT'S MOSTLY FOR DEFECTS AND STUFF LIKE THAT, NOT NECESSARILY FOR DAMAGE CAUSED BY THE PUBLIC OR REP, WHATEVER, RIGHT? CORRECT.

THE, THE THROUGH THE PUNCH LIST PROCESS.

RIGHT.

THE OTHER PUNCH LIST WILL GO THROUGH IT, THEY'LL SIGN OFF ON IT AND SURE.

UM, IF WE GET SOMEONE SCUFFS A DOOR OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT AFTER THAT, THAT'S ON US.

YEAH, UNDERSTOOD.

THAT'S TYPICAL.

YEAH.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? SEE NO OTHER QUESTIONS AND OH, SORRY.

SUPERVISOR SCHWAB, UH, WARRANTY LENGTH HAS AN IMPACT ON BID AND PERFORMANCE BONDS ARE, I DIDN'T RECALL IN THE, FROM READING, LOOKING UP AT THE SPECS PRETTY QUICKLY IF WE'RE REQUIRING BID AND OR PERFORMANCE BONDS? I THINK, I THINK WE DO, YES.

AND YES, BOTH ARE GONNA BE REQUIRED BY PURCHASING, SO OKAY.

BUT EITHER WAY, THEY'RE STILL HERE, SO IT'S NOT LIKE THERE'S A MATERIAL OR AN ITEM THAT'S NOT BEING COMPLETED.

RIGHT.

YEP.

SO YEAH, IT'LL BE, UH, WARRANTY START DATE WILL BE THAT NOVEMBER END OF, YOU KNOW, MID-NOVEMBER 26TH DATE AND THEY WOULDN'T GET BONDS, UH, RETURNED OR RELEASED UNTIL THEN.

ANYWAYS.

WILL THERE BE, AND I'M LOOKING AT RETAINAGE AS WELL, WILL, UH, RETAINAGE BE RELEASED ON A PER PHASE BASIS OR WILL THAT ALL BE HELD UNTIL THE VERY END? THE GOAL IS TO HOLD IT TILL THE END.

I THINK THE ONE THING THAT WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO DEAL WITH AND ADDRESS DURING CONSTRUCTION IS THE PIECE OF THE PUZZLE WE MAYBE HAVEN'T TALKED ABOUT AS MUCH DURING THIS, UH, DISCUSSION HERE IS WE'VE BEEN SOLELY FOCUSED ON THE BUILDING WHERE THE SITE WORK IS GOING TO BE FINISHED IN NOVEMBER OF 25.

SO I COULD SEE WHERE, LIKE FOR INSTANCE, AS AN EXAMPLE, THE ASPHALT PAVING CONTRACTOR MAY ASK FOR HIS RETAINAGE TO BE RELEASED.

BUT I THINK WE CAN JUST ADDRESS THAT IF IT OCCURS WITH BILL AND PURCHASING.

BUT I THINK THAT WOULD BE THE ONLY, YOU KNOW, A CONTRACTOR LIKE THAT, MAYBE THE EXCAVATION CONTRACTOR, THOSE TYPES OF ENTITIES WHO WILL HAVE BEEN DONE IN NOVEMBER OF 25, BUT THE PROJECT WON'T BE FINISHED TILL 20 NOVEMBER OF 26.

GENERALLY SPEAKING, I THINK MOST OF THE DIFFERENT PHASES STILL HAVE PAINTERS, ELECTRICIANS, ET CETERA, SO THEY'LL BE ON SITE THROUGH THE ENTIRE DURATION OF THE PROJECT, IF THAT MAKES SENSE.

IT DOES.

UM, AND JUST WITH REGARD TO RETAINAGE AS WELL, UM, ON A PROJECT OF THIS SIZE, IT MAY MAKE SENSE TO HAVE A GRADUATED RELEASE OR, OR EVEN A LOWER RETAINAGE AMOUNT BECAUSE THE AMOUNT IS STILL GONNA BE FAIRLY HIGH THAT THERE'S NO NEED TO HOLD ALL THAT MONEY.

PEOPLE ARE STILL GONNA COME BACK TO FIX WHATEVER ISSUES THERE MAY BE THROUGHOUT THAT PERIOD.

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YEAH, WE CAN DISCUSS WITH BILL WHAT HIS THOUGHTS ARE IF WE WANT TO MAYBE REDUCE THAT PERCENTAGE, UH, UH, OR POTENTIALLY HAVE A REDUCTION AT A CERTAIN POINT THROUGH THE PROJECT.

THANK YOU ADVISOR.

GALLUP, YOU KNOW WHAT THE WORD RETAIN MEANS? IS IT? YEAH.

ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT, WE'VE GOT THREE PHASES, SO I'M JUST CURIOUS.

WE DID HAVE BUDGET, BUT ARE WE PAYING OUT UPON COMPLETION OF EACH PHASE OF WORK? WELL, THEY DO EXCEPT FOR, FOR INSTANCE, LET'S SAY IT'S A HALF A MILLION PROJECT, RIGHT? THEY HOLD 10%, CORRECT.

I'M SORRY, A $5 MILLION.

RIGHT.

I UNDERSTAND THAT PART, BUT ARE WE ALSO THEN PAYING OUT UPON COMPLETION PHASE ONE, PHASE TWO, PHASE THREE? SO THAT WOULD BE BASED ON WHAT MEANING PAYING THE YEAH, MAYBE I, I WAS TRYING TO BE CLEAR.

MAYBE I WASN'T.

THE INTERIOR PHASES SHOULD BE THE SAME CONTRACTORS, IT'S THE SAME PAINTER, THE SAME FLOORING CONTRACTOR, ET CETERA.

MM-HMM .

I WAS SAYING THE ONE PIECE OF THE PUZZLE WHERE WE MAY HAVE TO DO A PAYOUT IS THE SITE WORK, WHICH ESSENTIALLY FINISHES A YEAR EARLIER.

SO YOU PROBABLY HAVE TO HAVE SOME DISCUSSIONS WITH BILL AT PURCHASING, WHETHER WE CAN RELEASE THAT.

AND THEN OF COURSE A COURSELY, UH, DROP THEIR BONDS AND RELEASE THEIR BONDS TO, TO GIVE YOU AN EXAMPLE WITH THE FLOORING CONTRACTOR IN HERE ON, ON PHASE ONE, AND I'LL PICK A EASY NUMBER FOR ME, A A HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS WORTH OF FLOORING AND WE'VE GOT A 10% RETAINAGE, THEY'LL GET PAID OUT $90,000, A 10% RETAINAGE UNTIL THE NEXT PHASE AND THERE ON AND SO ON AND SO FORTH.

SO THEY'LL BE GETTING PAID ALONG THROUGH THE PROCESS, WHATEVER THE CONTRACTOR DOES THEIR DRAWS AND HOW THEY WOULD, HOW THEY DO THEIR MATH.

SOMETIMES IT'S, YOU KNOW, DEPENDING ON WHEN THEIR SUBCONTRACTOR GOT THE INFORMATION TO THEM AND THE DRAWS AND AND STUFF.

SO CAN'T GUARANTEE EVERYBODY'S GONNA GET PAID IF THE DRAWS DON'T COME IN CORRECT WAY.

RIGHT.

WELL THEN, UH, SEE, NO MORE QUESTIONS ON THIS.

UM, SO I GUESS I WANTED TO TALK TO CHAIRMAN REAL QUICK.

UH, ACCORDING TO SCOTT, THIS GOES OUT FOR BIDS.

SO WE MAY POSTPONE FURTHER HEARINGS OR FURTHER MEETINGS UNTIL WE MAY BE DECIDE THAT WE MAY NEED TO COME BACK TO REVIEW SOME STUFF, RIGHT? YEAH.

IT, IT MAY BE A JULY MEETING THAT THE BIDS ARE GOING OUT IN EARLY JUNE AND COMING BACK AND THROUGH THE WALKTHROUGH AND BIDS BEING BACK IN JULY.

IT MIGHT MAKE SENSE TO HAVE THE NEXT MEETING IN JULY.

THERE WON'T BE A LOT BETWEEN NOW AND THEN 'CAUSE THE BIDS WILL BE OUT.

THERE MIGHT BE SOME ADDENDUM QUESTIONS.

IF WE COME TO THE, THE BID PACKETS OUT THERE AND THERE'S A, A MAJOR CHANGE, UM, WE'LL CERTAINLY THEN BRING THAT TO THE, THE CHAIR'S ATTENTION AND SAYING, OH, WE DID THE WALKTHROUGH AND A B AND C CAME UP AND WE GOTTA DO THESE, THESE CHANGES BECAUSE OF THAT.

OR A CONTRACT LOOK DETAILED AND SAID, HEY, WE, WE GOTTA MAKE THESE MODIFICATIONS.

I WOULD THEN BRING NOTES TO THE CHAIR AND THEN HE CAN MAKE HIS DECISION IF YOU'RE OKAY WITH THAT, TO SEE IF THAT WARRANTS AN, AN EMAIL OR IF IT'S A, A MEETING.

THAT WOULD BE, BE NEEDED BY THE COMMITTEE TO GET THEM BACK TOGETHER IF THERE'S, IF THERE'S A DECISION POINT.

SO THEN AT THIS POINT, IT'S JUST SAFE TO SAY THE NEXT MEETING DATE IS TO BE DETERMINED.

SO FOR NOW WE'RE FREE TO ROAM.

YES.

I, I WOULD LOOK IN AND TRY TO HOLD YOUR THIRD JULY 3RD MONDAY IN JULY.

OKAY.

BUT, UM, WE WILL BE IN TOUCH WITH THE CHAIR TO LOOK ON WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE.

SO WE'LL, WE'LL , IT MIGHT BE NICE TO LOOK AT THE BIDS WHEN THEY COME IN AND SURE.

THAT STUFF IN JULY.

OKAY, SOUNDS GOOD.

GIVE YOU AN UPDATE.

NO, WITH THAT THEN THIS MEETING IS ADJOURNED.

THANK YOU GUYS.

YEAH, 90%.