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I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS, ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL.
ITEM TWO ON THE AGENDA IS THE MINUTES OF OUR JUNE 18TH MEETING.
DID ANYONE NOTICE ANY CORRECTIONS THAT NEED TO BE MADE? ANY DISPARITIES? IF NOT, THE MINUTES WILL STAND AS POSTED.
ITEM THREE, DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION ITEMS. THE FIRST ITEM IS AGENCY COMMENDATION FOR LIFESAVING ACTIONS BY DEPUTY ANTHONY ROUSH.
AND FOR THAT WE HAVE SHERIFF SICE.
SO THIS IS ONE OF THOSE TIMES WHERE I GET TO, UH, KIND HIGHLIGHT SOME OF THE ACTIONS OF, UH, SOME OF OUR PATROL DEPUTIES.
AND THIS IS, THIS IS GOING TO BE TALKING ABOUT AN INCIDENT JUST A COUPLE OF THURSDAYS AGO, UM, UH, THURSDAY, JANUARY, OR JUNE 26TH RATHER.
UM, IT'S KIND OF GONNA BE A LITTLE BIT BACKWARDS ON HOW I USUALLY DO IT, 'CAUSE I DO HAVE SOME AUDIO VISUAL THINGS I LIKE TO PRESENT TO THE, UH, THE COMMITTEE.
UM, THE FIRST, THE FIRST THING I LIKE TO DO IS JUST, UH, READ THE COMMENDATION, AND THEN I HAVE A COUPLE OF PICTURES OF THE INCIDENT AFTER THE FACT.
AND THEN I HAVE ABOUT EIGHT MINUTES OF BODY CAM FOOTAGE THAT I'D LIKE TO, UH, TO SHOW YOU.
UH, WHEN I SHOW YOU THE BODY CAM FOOTAGE, UM, THERE'S, THE WAY OUR BODY CAMS ARE SET UP, THERE'S A DELAY WHEN THE DEPUTIES START TO, UH, UM, WHEN THEY DEPRESS AND ACTIVATE THEIR BODY CAM, IT ACTUALLY BACKTRACKS 30 SECONDS.
SO YOU'RE GONNA MISS OUT ABOUT 30 SECONDS OF AUDIO, BUT THEN IT KICKS IN.
BUT THAT'S THE REASON IT'S, IT'S BUILT INTO THE SYSTEM THAT, UH, IT BACKTRACKS WHEN THEY, UH, WHEN THEY START TO RECORD.
SO THE FIR UM, THE DEPUTY THEY'RE REFERRING TO IS, UH, DEPUTY ANTHONY ROUSH.
UM, HE STARTED WITH OUR AGENCY IN THE JAIL ACTUALLY IN, UH, MAY OF 2021.
HE ATTENDED, UH, RECRUIT SCHOOL SHORTLY AFTER THAT FACT.
UH, AND, UH, ONCE WE GOT HIS TRANSCRIPTS BACK, WE, UH, WE WERE TOLD THAT HE ACTUALLY RANKED NUMBER ONE IN HIS GRADUATING CLASS.
THE ACADEMY ACTUALLY AWARDED HIM AN ACADEMIC EXCELLENCE AWARD, UM, AND HE SPENT A SHORT TIME IN THE JAIL.
AND THEN IN, UH, APRIL 7TH, 2022, HE THEN TRANSFERRED INTO THE PATROL OPERATIONS WHERE HE IS BEEN, UH, THERE EVER SINCE.
SO THE, THE COMMENDATION, ANTHONY, IF I COULD HAVE YOU COME UP FOR ME PLEASE.
SO, THIS IS ACCOMMODATION FOR DEPUTY ANTHONY ROUSH, WHEREAS ON JUNE 26TH, 2025, DEPUTY ROUSH DISPLAYED OUTSTANDING COURAGE, DECISIVENESS, AND PROFESSIONALISM IN RESPONSE TO A LIFE-THREATENING EMERGENCY INVOLVING A RECKLESS DRIVER.
AND WHEREAS AT APPROXIMATELY 1:51 PM MULTIPLE 9 1 1 CALLS WERE RECEIVED REGARDING A VEHICLE TRAVELING ERRATICALLY NORTHBOUND ON INTERSTATE 41 NEAR SHERMAN ROAD, REPORTED TO BE SWERVING, DANGEROUSLY ENTERING DITCHES, FORCING OTHER MOTORISTS OFF THE ROADWAY.
DEPUTY ROUSH RESPONDED TO INTER INTERCEPT THE VEHICLE WHICH HAD EXITED ON STATE HIGHWAY 1 44.
AS HE APPROACHED CEDAR HILLS DRIVE, HE WAS FLAGGED DOWN BY A CITIZEN AND INFORMED THE SUSPECT VEHICLE HAD CRASHED 10 TO 15 YARDS INTO THE WOODS ON THE WEST SIDE OF 1 44.
AND YOU'LL SEE IN THE VIDEO, YOU ACTUALLY COULDN'T SEE THE, THE VEHICLE FROM THE ROADWAY.
WHEREAS UPON LOCATING THE CRASH VEHICLE, DEPUTY ROUSH OBSERVED HEAVY DAMAGE, FULL AIRBAG DEPLOYMENT, AND SMOKE EMANATING FROM THE ENGINE COMPARTMENT.
INSIDE, HE FOUND A LONE OCCUPANT SLUMPED OVER AND UNRESPONSIVE WITHOUT HESITATION RECOGNIZING THE IMMEDIATE THREAT OF FIRE.
DEPUTY ROUSH BROKE THE DRIVER'S SIDE WINDOW, ENTERED THE VEHICLE, AND EXTRICATED THE DRIVER WHO WEIGHED APPROXIMATELY 185 POUNDS, AND HE DID THIS BY HIMSELF.
WHEREAS AFTER REMOVING THE UNRESPONSIVE DRIVER, UH, DEPUTY ROUSH IN INITIATED MEDICAL ASSESSMENT AND IDENTIFIED A FAINT PULSE, FLAMES WERE THEN OBSERVED COMING FROM UNDER THE VEHICLE.
DEPUTY ROUSH THEN DRAGGED THE SUBJECT AN ADDITIONAL 10 YARDS AWAY FROM THE BURNING WRECK.
A BYSTANDER ARRIVED TO ASSIST, FOLLOWED BY ADDITIONAL DEPUTIES.
NARCAN WAS ADMINISTERED AND THE SUBJECT EVENTUALLY REGAINED CONSCIOUSNESS, WHEREAS THE VEHICLE SOON WAS FULLY ENGULFED AND THE INTERIOR DESTROYED BEFORE THE FIRE WAS EXTINGUISHED.
THE DRIVER LATER ADMITTED TO USE THE FENTANYL IN ROUTE TO COURT AND SUBSEQUENTLY WAS ARRESTED FOR OWI THIRD OFFENSE.
WHEREAS DEPUTY RAS ACCIDENT REFLECTED THE HIGHEST STANDARDS OF BRAVELY BRAVERY, SELFLESSNESS, AND DUTY, UH, AND, UH, DUTY.
HIS DECISIVE AND LIFE-SAVING EFFORTS DIRECTLY RESULTED IN THE PRESERVATION OF LIFE UNDER EXTREME ENDANGEREDS CIRCUMSTANCES.
FURTHERMORE, HIS CONDUCT SERVES AS A POWERFUL EXAMPLE OF THE DEDICATION AND, UH, ENCOURAGED LAW ENFORCEMENT OFFICERS EXHIBITS IN THE FACE OF UNPREDICTABLE, UH, AND HAZARDOUS SITUATIONS.
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RESOLVED THAT WASHINGTON COUNTY'S A SAFER PLACE DUE TO THE DEDICATION, QUICK REACTION AND COMMITMENT OF DEPUTY ANTHONY ROSCH.HE'S HEREBY COMMITTED FOR HIS DEDICATION AND PRESERVATION AS, UH, AS A DEPUTY SHERIFF.
SO, ANTHONY, THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
SO NOW I'D LIKE TO ACTUALLY SHOW YOU WHAT, UH, WHAT I'M REFERRING TO.
SO THESE ARE THE SCENES OF THE, UH, AFTER THE EXTRICATION, THESE ARE THE SCENES OF THE INTERIOR OF THE VEHICLE.
AFTER THE FIRE WAS PUT OUT, YOU CAN SEE THE, THE ONE ON THE LEFT IS THE, THE FRONT COMPARTMENT, AND THE ONE ON THE RIGHT IS THE, THE REAR COMPARTMENT.
AND, UH, I, THE BODY CAM THAT I'M GONNA SHOW YOU, WE HAD TO EDIT IT QUITE A A BIT BECAUSE THE, I MEAN, IT SHOWS SOME PRETTY GRAPHIC STUFF IN THE, THE DRIVER.
SO YOU, BUT YOU'LL GET THE, THE SENSE OF EXACTLY WHAT I'M, WHAT I'M REFERRING TO.
SO YOU CAN SEE HERE, YOU CAN'T SEE THE VEHICLE FROM THE ROADWAY SOMEWHERE IN HERE.
4, 7, 4 COUNTY VEHICLE SMOKE I LOCATED AT, IT'LL BE NORTH OF CEDAR HILLS.
DRIVE ATTENTION TO ANSWER THE BRUSH WHERE IT'S LOCATED.
YEAH, PERHAPS ON A WAY BACK THERE.
AND ADAM HENRY UNION 4, 5 1 3.
SIR, SIR, SIR, CAN YOU HEAR ME SIR? STAND ON THE BOAT.
SIR, CAN YOU HEAR ME? 4 7 4 COUNTY DRIVER'S NUMBER RESPOND OUT THERE.
SIR, CAN YOU HEAR ME SIR? SIR, CAN YOU HEAR ME? SIR? SIR, SIR, SIR.
4, 7 4 COUNTY IF YOU'RE GONNA HAVE FIRE ADVISED THAT YOU CAN'T GET THE DOOR OPEN.
DRIVER'S NOT RESPONSIVE AT THIS TIME.
SIR, CAN YOU HEAR ME SIR? SIR, SIR, SIR,
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SIR.ADDITIONAL SQUAD BRINGING A A D SIR, SIR? YEAH.
CAN YOU HEAR ME SIR? CAN YOU HEAR ME SIR? SIR, CAN YOU HEAR ME SIR? 4 7 4 COUNTY PATIENT OUT OF THE VEHICLE HAS A POLICY NONRESPONSIVE FACIAL INJURIES, EYES ROLLED BACK.
I'M GONNA START CPR OH 4 7 4 COUNTY DISREGARD.
I'M MOVING THEM VEHICLES SET ON FIRE.
DEB, YOU CAN COME HELP ME? YEAH, I NEED SOMEONE TO GRAB HIS LEGS.
I NEED YOU TO GRAB HIS FEET SO WE CAN CARRY HIM.
ALRIGHT, WANNA TAKE OVER YOU? CAN YOU GRAB A, CAN YOU TAKE OVER BACK THERE UNDERNEATH THE FRONT HAND? ALRIGHT, I GOT THIS.
LIFT UNDER UNDERNEATH THE SHOULDER.
CAN YOU START CHECKING OUT HERE? LET'S GO BACK, MAKE YOUR NOTES IN.
I DIDN'T SEE ANYONE ELSE IN THE FRONT SEAT.
BACK SEAT'S, EMPTY FRONT SEAT'S EMPTY.
SO, UH, DEPUTY ROUSH HAS ABOUT THREE YEARS ON, ON PATROL.
UM, AND HE ACTS ACTED LIKE A VETERAN DEPUTY.
IF YOU HAD, YOU NOTICED HE WAS VERY, VERY CALM.
UM, HE WENT UP, UH, ASSESSED THE MEDICAL, I MEAN, GOT INTO THE VEHICLE, ASSESSED HIM, BROUGHT HIM OUT THE, THE ANGLE OF THE CAMERA.
HE PROBABLY, YOU SAW THE FIRE UNDER THE VEHICLE.
HE PROBABLY COULDN'T SEE THAT THAT POINT IT, THAT IT'S JUST A, HIS EYES ARE, ARE HIGHER THAN THE CAMERA.
UM, BUT, UH, IMMEDIATELY AFTER SEEING THE FIRE, HE GOT THE INDIVIDUAL OUT FURTHER THAT IT WAS DOING A MEDICAL ASSESSMENT OF THE INDIVIDUALS DIRECTING INCOMING, UH, UH, UH, SQUADS OF WHAT WHAT HE NEEDED.
UM, WENT, ACTUALLY WENT BACK AND MADE SURE THAT THE VEHICLE WAS, WAS NOT OCCUPIED BY SOMEBODY ELSE THAT HE DIDN'T INITIALLY SEE.
UH, YOU'LL, YOU, YOU PROBABLY HEARD SOME
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COLORFUL LANGUAGE.THAT'S, THAT'S HOW REAL LIFE LAW ENFORCEMENT WORKS.
I MEAN, THIS IS, UM, BUT THE WAY HE, HE ACTED WAS HOW A VETERAN DEPUTY WOULD ACT.
AND, UH, JUST, UH, IT MAKES, IT MAKES ME VERY PROUD THAT, UH, WE HAVE STAFF THAT ARE, ARE PROTECTING OUR COMMUNITY THE WAY IT IS.
SO I APPRECIATE THE FACT THAT YOU GIVEN THE OPPORTUNITY TO, UH, TO HIGHLIGHT THAT.
AND, UH, UH, ANYTIME I'M ABLE TO DO THAT, I, I PLAN ON ON BRINGING THAT FORTH TO THIS COMMITTEE.
THANK YOU FOR, UH, THANK YOU FOR RAISING THE SITUATION AND, AND, UH, PROVIDING ACCOMMODATION FOR DEPUTY ROUSH.
ARE THERE ANY COMMENTS FROM THE COMMITTEE? I THINK THIS IS GREAT STUFF.
AND, AND TO MIRROR WHAT, WHAT SHERIFF SCHULTE SAID.
YOU'RE STANDING THERE PROBABLY A LITTLE BIT EMBARRASSED.
YOU DON'T WANNA BE THE CENTER OF ATTENTION AND STUFF, AND, AND WE GET THAT.
BUT YOU ACTED IN A WAY THAT WAS PROFESSIONAL FROM BEGINNING TO END.
YOU ACTED WITH INTEGRITY, WITH RESPECT FOR LIFE, WITH RESPECT FOR THE, THE NEIGHBORING SITUATION.
IT IS OBVIOUS THAT YOU TOOK COMMAND OF THAT SITUATION FROM BEGINNING TO END IN A PROFESSIONAL WAY, IN A WAY THAT, UM, YOU HAD LESS COLORFUL LANGUAGE, BY THE WAY, THAN I WOULD'VE HAD AT THAT SITUATION,
UM, AND, AND SO TO MAINTAIN COMPOSURE IN ALL THAT I AM, I'M JUST INCREDIBLY IMPRESSED WITH YOUR ACTIONS AND, UH, THANK YOU, THANK YOU FOR BEING PART OF WASHINGTON COUNTY LAW ENFORCEMENT.
NOW ONTO LESS EXCITING AND INTERESTING THINGS,
UM, AND JUST TO COMMENT UP, UP BEFORE WE GET INTO IT, A 41 PAGE REPORT THAT IF, IF, UH, HOPEFULLY EVERYONE READ IT FROM BEGINNING TO END, THERE IS, THIS IS ANOTHER EXAMPLE OF THE INTEGRITY, THE DILIGENCE, THE PROFESSIONALISM THAT WE HAVE IN OUR SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT FROM BEGINNING TO END.
IT PROVIDES THE INFORMATION WE NEED.
UM, IT, IT'S JUST A WELL DONE REPORT.
SO, SO THANK YOU TO CAPTAINS LAYMAN, ER AND TOCH FOR THEIR WORK.
AND, UH, THANK YOU SHERIFF FOR YOUR ADMIN, FOR YOUR LEADERSHIP IN THAT REGARD AS WELL.
SO, UH, WE'VE ALWAYS DONE ANNUAL REPORTS.
WE HAVE THEM GOING BACK, UM, FOR AS LONG AS I CAN REMEMBER.
AND I KNOW THERE'S A POINT IN TIME WHERE, UM, THE, THE INDIVIDUAL COMMITTEES, UH, WAS NO LONGER REQUIRED ANNUAL REPORTS, BUT I CHOSE TO CONTINUE TO DO IT JUST BECAUSE I LIKE TO HAVE THAT HISTORICAL RECORD OF WHAT OUR AGENCY DOES, OUR STAFFING LEVELS.
UM, SO I PROVIDE, I PLAN ON GIVING YOU KIND OF A VERY, VERY 30,000, UH, FOOT OVERVIEW OF IT.
I'LL GO OVER A LITTLE BIT OF FINANCIALS, SOME OF THE OPERATIONS STUFF, AND THEN I'LL EITHER BRING UP, UH, A CAPTAIN, UH, STATE SIR OR A CAPTAIN LAYMAN TO ADDRESS THE, THEIR DIVISIONS.
SO AS YOU KNOW, WE HAVE ONE OF THE LARGEST BUDGETS, UH, UH, IN THE COUNTY.
UH, WE PROBABLY HAVE THE LARGEST COUNTY LEVY PART PORTION OF THE BUDGET.
UM, BUT FOR 2024, IT WAS A $26.4 MILLION.
OUR TOTAL BUDGET, 21.5 MILLION WAS THE COUNTY LEVEE.
WE WERE 2.6% OVER OUR BUDGET, WHICH I MEAN, THAT, THAT NUMBER SOUNDS SMALL, 2.6%, BUT IT'S, IT'S REAL MONEY.
IT IS, IT WAS, UH, SIX, ALMOST $700,000, $691,000.
AND I JUST WANTED TO ADDRESS WHY, WHY THOSE, UH, THAT EXPENDITURES WERE, WERE MORE THAN THAT WAS.
THERE WAS A, A COUPLE OF THINGS THAT OVER TIME IN THE JAIL, UM, WAS JUST OVER THE CHARTS, OUR STAFFING LEVELS AND MAINTAINING MINIMUM STAFFING, THAT WAS VERY PROBLEMATIC.
UM, THE, ONE OF THE OTHER THINGS IS, AND IT'S, IT'S A FACTOR OF THE BUDGET PROCESS.
THERE'S SOMETHING CALLED CONTRA WAGES THAT IS A, A VACANCY FACTOR THAT IS BUILT IN, UM, THAT THEY FIGURE THERE'S SO MANY VACANCIES.
SO THEY REDUCE THE, THE, THE BUDGET.
UM, AND, UH, IT'S VERY EFFECTIVE IN THE JAIL AND THE COMMUNICATIONS AREA.
WE TYPICALLY HAVE VACANCIES IN THERE THAT, THAT CONTRA WAGE IS, IS VERY APPROPRIATE.
UH, WHAT WE'VE BEEN FINDING IS THE CONTRA WAGE THAT WE ASSESS TO THE OPERATIONS DIVISION IS ALMOST NOT EXISTENT.
WE ARE STILL, WE STILL HAVE THAT CONTRA WAGE FACTOR IN THERE.
UM, BUT WE'RE VERY, VERY GOOD AT GETTING VACANCIES FILLED VERY, VERY QUICKLY AND RECOGNIZING, UH, UPCOMING RETIREMENTS AND ACTUALLY HIRING A, GETTING PERMISSION FROM THE BUDGET TEAM TO HIRE AHEAD OF TIME.
UM, SO THE, UM, THAT WAGE, I BELIEVE, I BELIEVE IT'S A HALF A MILLION DOLLARS.
AND I'M NOT SURE IF THAT'S JUST IN A PATROL DIVISION OR IF THAT'S, UH, AGENCY-WIDE.
UM, BUT THAT NUMBER KIND OF HURTS US A LITTLE BIT WHEN THE, THE FINAL NUMBERS ARE IN.
UM, SO THE, UH, I JUST WANTED TO GO OVER QUICKLY THE OVERALL STAFFING OF THE, THE, THE, THE PATROL DIVISION OR THE OPERATION DIVISION, JUST SO YOU'RE AWARE OF THE STAFFING.
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UM, THAT ARE PATROL LIEUTENANTS FOR A SECOND AND THIRD SHIFT.WE HAVE ONE DETECTIVE LIEUTENANT THAT OVERSEES BOTH MAJOR CRIMES AND THE DRUG UNIT.
THERE ARE SIX FIRST LINE SUPERVISORS FOR PATROL.
UH, TWO ASSIGN TO EACH PATROL PATROL SHIFT.
ONE IS, UH, RESPONSIBLE FOR THE DRUG UNIT.
AND THE, UH, UH, FINAL IS THE, UH, SERGEANT THAT'S ASSIGNED TO COURTHOUSE SECURITY.
UM, OPERATIONS HAS ONE FULL-TIME MECHANIC.
UM, AND, UH, OUR DEPUTY AND STAFFING, UH, INCLUDE OUR PATROL CONSISTS OF 59 PATROL DEPUTIES, AND THAT INCLUDES THE THREE CONTRACT DEPUTIES, UM, THAT ARE WITH THE VILLAGE OF RICHFIELD.
AND THE ONE, UM, THAT IS KIND OF A SHARED POSITION BETWEEN SHARED REVENUE AND, UH, UM, THE TOWN OF WEST BEND MAJOR CRIMES.
WE CONSISTS OF SIX DETECTIVES AND TWO INVESTIGATORS.
OUR MULTI-JURISDICTIONAL DRUG UNIT HAS TWO DETECTIVES AND TWO INVESTIGATORS FROM THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE.
AND THEN THERE ARE FOUR OTHER INVESTIGATORS FROM WEST BEND, HARTFORD, AND GERMANTOWN.
SOMETIMES THAT CAN BE A LITTLE FLUID.
COURT SERVICES, UH, WE HAVE THREE FULL-TIME DEPUTIES, UM, AS WELL AS NUMEROUS, UH, PART-TIME DEPUTIES THAT HELP OUT WITH THE SCREENING STATION.
UM, MOVING CALLS FOR SERVICE, YOU PROBABLY SAW THERE WERE ABOUT 43,000 CALLS FOR SERVICE.
UH, THAT'S ABOUT, UM, WHAT WE HAD THE, THE PREVIOUS YEAR, UM, ACCIDENTS.
WE HAD SIX FATALITIES LAST YEAR, WHICH WAS FIVE LESS THAN IN 2023.
OWI ENFORCEMENT, WE HAD ABOUT 186 OWI ARRESTS, AND THAT'S PRETTY CONSISTENT FROM YEAR TO YEAR.
UM, WE ALSO KNOW, I'M NOT SURE IF THAT WAS AN ANNUAL REPORT.
WE HAVE, UH, THREE DEPUTIES THAT ARE TRAINED IN COMMERCIAL MOTOR VEHICLE ENFORCEMENT.
AND WHAT I THOUGHT WAS KIND OF INTERESTING THERE, IN, UH, 2024, THEY CONDUCTED 78 VEHICLE STOPS VEHICLE INSPECTIONS.
UM, BUT DURING THAT TIME, THEY FOUND 318 VIOLATIONS IN THOSE 78 STOPS.
SO THAT SEEMED PRETTY SIGNIFICANT TO ME.
UM, WE HAVE THE RECREATIONAL PATROLS BOTH, UH, ON WATER AND ON SNOW.
UH, WE HAD ABOUT 80 HOURS ON THE LAKES AND, UH, SNOW WAS VERY, UH, IT'S A BOAT PE OF THIS.
SNOWMOBILE PATROL IS VERY DEPENDENT WEATHER DEPENDENT, OBVIOUSLY.
UM, THE SWAT TEAM, UM, IS ALSO MULTI-JURISDICTIONAL.
IT CONSISTS OF 23 OPERATORS, 15 FROM THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE, AND THEN WE HAVE FIVE FROM GERMANTOWN, THREE FROM HARTFORD, AND ONE FROM JACKSON.
UM, ONE OF THE NEW THINGS THAT WE HAVE IS THE FIELD FORCE TEAM.
IF YOU REMEMBER, I CAME IN FRONT OF THIS BODY FOR STRATEGIC FUNDS FOR SOME GEAR.
UM, WE'RE, WE'RE, UM, IN, WE'RE IMPLEMENTING IT, IT'S IN EARLY STAGES.
UM, BUT WE'VE IDENTIFIED, UH, UM, THAT WE HAVE, UH, 26 INDIVIDUALS ON THAT TEAM.
UH, 14 FROM THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE, FIVE FROM WEST BEND, PD, FOUR FROM, UH, GERMANTOWN, AND ONE FROM SLINGER.
AND I THINK, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE ALSO HAVE THE DIVE TEAM THAT CONSIST OF NINE SHERIFF'S OFFICE EMPLOYEES, UM, SEVEN DEPUTIES, TWO CORRECTIONAL OFFICERS, AND ABOUT 24 FIREFIGHTERS FROM VARIOUS DEPARTMENTS WITHIN THE, THE, UH, COUNTY.
UM, OUR CANINE PROGRAM IS EXTREMELY, UH, UM, IMPORTANT AND, UH, EFFECTIVE.
IF YOU REMEMBER, WE HAVE, UH, WE HAVE A, UH, UM, PATROL CANINE THAT'S CANINE RAZOR.
AND THEN WE HAVE A PATROL, I MEAN, A, A DOG.
RIKER IS ASSIGNED TO THE JAIL.
UM, SCHOOL VISITS FOR ME REMAINS, UH, ONE OF MY TOP PRIORITIES.
UM, AS YOU KNOW, WE DON'T, WE DON'T HAVE SROS ASSIGNED TO SCHOOLS.
UM, WE HAVE ONE, ONE HIGH SCHOOL IN OUR JURISDICTION, BUT WE DON'T HAVE AN SRO ASSIGNED TO IT.
UM, BUT WE HAVE DEPUTIES THAT ROUTINELY CHECK IN, UM, AND MAKE SURE THAT THEY'RE, THAT THE DEPUTIES KNOW THE SCHOOL, THE SCHOOL KNOWS THEM.
UM, AND IN 2 20, 24, UH, WE HAD ABOUT A THOUSAND, UH, A LITTLE OVER A THOUSAND SCHOOL CHECKS.
UM, SO AS THE, THE CHAIRMAN SAID, A LOT OF THE, THE DEEP DOWN STATISTICS ARE IN THE, THE ANNUAL REPORT.
UM, IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, YOU CAN ALWAYS REACH OUT TO ME.
UM, BUT I THINK AT THIS POINT I'LL BRING UP EITHER, UH, CAPTAIN LEHMAN, YOU WANT TO STEP FORWARD AND YOU CAN GO OVER THE, THE JAIL.
WELCOME, CAPTAIN LEHMAN, THANK YOU FOR YOUR WORK.
SO, UM, LIKE THE SHERIFF SAID, WE'RE JUST GIVING, UM, HIGHLIGHTS AND OVERVIEW OF THAT ANNUAL REPORT.
UM, IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ON IT, LET ME KNOW.
UM, I'LL START OFF WITH, UH, THE STAFFING OVER IN THE CORRECTIONS DIVISION.
RIGHT NOW, WE CURRENTLY HAVE ONE CAPTAIN, ONE LIEUTENANT, SEVEN SERGEANTS, ONE JUVENILE MANAGER, AND 65 OFFICERS.
UM, THAT'S WHEN WE ARE AT FULL STAFF, THAT THAT IS THE STAFF, UH, KIND OF OUR CORE STAFF.
WE ALSO HAVE SUPPORT STAFF, WHICH INCLUDE MENTAL HEALTH TECHNICIAN.
UM, IF YOU REMEMBER, WE PARTNER WITH HUMAN SERVICES FOR A FULL-TIME MENTAL HEALTH TECHNICIAN.
UM, HOLLY HAS BEEN TREMENDOUS IN THE JAIL ON, ON ADDRESSING, UM, SOME OF OUR MAJOR, UM, CRISISES THAT
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WE HAVE IN, IN THE JAIL.WE ALSO HAVE, UM, A JAIL CHAPLAIN WHO WORKS PART-TIME OVERSEEING, UM, ALL OF THE RELIGIOUS PROGRAMMING IN THE JAIL.
I'LL TOUCH BASE ON THAT A LITTLE BIT FARTHER DOWN MY LIST HERE.
UM, AND THEN OF COURSE, WE HAVE CONTRACTED SERVICES.
WE HAVE OUR MEDICAL SERVICE, UH, SERVICES, WHICH IS PROVIDED BY ADVANCED CORRECTIONAL HEALTHCARE.
UM, AND THEN WE HAVE OUR FOOD SERVICE, WHICH IS, UM, PROVIDED BY SUMMIT.
WE CURRENTLY HAVE, UH, FOUR VACANCIES.
UM, SO RIGHT NOW, I KNOW THIS IS, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE 2024 ANNUAL REPORT, BUT, UH, I WILL LET YOU KNOW, WE HAVE FOUR VACANCIES RIGHT NOW.
UM, AND WE HAVE ONE O OFFICER WHO IS, UH, IN OUR FIELD TRAINING PROGRAM.
SO, UM, THE JAIL ITSELF CONSISTS OF, UH, REALLY TWO DISTINCT DIVISIONS.
IT'S THE ADULT JAIL AND THE JUVENILE SECURE DETENTION.
UM, WE'RE KIND OF UNIQUE IN THE STATE OF WISCONSIN AS THAT, THAT JUVENILE DETENTION FACILITY IS CO-LOCATED, UM, WHICH MEANS IT'S ATTACHED TO OUR ADULT FACILITY.
UM, THERE'S CERTAIN HALLWAYS AND AREAS WHERE THE ADULT, UH, FACILITY AND THE JUVENILE FACILITY WILL SHARE, UM, SOME COMMON AREAS, THE BOOKING ROOM, THE SALLY PORT, THINGS LIKE THAT.
SO OUR ADULT JAIL CURRENTLY HAS 321 BEDS, HOUSES, INDIVIDUALS 17 YEARS AND OLDER.
OUR JUVENILE DETENTION FACILITY HAS 26 BEDS AND HOUSES, YOUTH FROM 10 YEARS OLD TO 17 YEARS OLD.
UM, OUR KEY ISSUES IN THE JAIL, UM, CONTINUE TO BE OPIOID, UH, ADDICTION AND MENTAL HEALTH.
THOSE ARE, YOU KNOW, THOSE HAVE BEEN OUR TWO MAJOR, UM, ISSUES AND THEY CONTINUE TO BE.
UM, I THINK, UM, MENTAL HEALTH IS, IS PROBABLY ON A FASTER TRACK RIGHT NOW.
UH, IS IS BECOMING OUR, OUR NUMBER ONE ISSUE.
UM, NEVER REALLY SEEMS TO, UH, IT NEVER SEEMS TO DIP.
IT JUST SEEMS TO KEEP ON, UM, GOING UP OUR HIGH NEEDS INMATES, HIGH RISK INMATES THAT, THAT WE'RE DEALING WITH.
SO LOOKING AT, UM, TRENDS WHEN, WHENEVER YOU LOOK AT TRENDS IN A JAIL, YOU'RE USUALLY FOCUSING ON TWO MAJOR AREAS.
UM, THE TOTAL NUMBER OF BOOKINGS, AND THEN OUR AVERAGE DAILY POPULATION, UH, OR A DP, UM, THOSE ARE USUALLY THE TWO THAT PEOPLE LOOK TO.
SO I WILL TALK ABOUT BOTH OF THOSE FOR 2024.
UM, FOR OUR ADULT, UM, OR FOR OUR TOTAL BOOKINGS FOR 2024, WE BOOKED IN 3,868 INDIVIDUALS.
UH, THAT BREAKS DOWN INTO 3,607 ADULTS AND 261 JUVENILES.
UM, A LITTLE BIT DOWN FROM 2023 IN OVERALL BOOKINGS.
UM, BUT IT WAS ONLY ABOUT A 1%, UM, LESS THAN A 1% DECREASE.
SO PRETTY STABLE AS FAR AS NUMBER OF ACTUAL BOOKINGS.
UH, OUR, A AVERAGE DAILY POPULATION IS KINDA WHERE, UH, WE'RE SEEING A LITTLE BIT OF A DIFFERENCE, A LITTLE BIT MORE OF, OF AN IMPACT ON OUR DAILY OPERATIONS.
SO IN 2023, OUR AVERAGE DAILY POPULATION FOR ADULTS WAS 170.
IN 2024, THAT NUMBER HAS CLIMBED TO 200.
UM, SO BASICALLY HOW WE COME UP WITH OUR A DP OR AVERAGE DAILY POPULATION IS EVERY MORNING AT 5:00 AM.
UM, WE PUT IN OUR, WE LOG OUR NUMBERS AS FAR AS ALL OF THE INMATES THAT ARE IN OUR CUSTODY.
SO, UM, AND THEN WE AVERAGE THAT OUT OVER THE YEAR.
SO, UM, IT WAS A PRETTY SUBSTANTIAL HIKE IN, UH, AVERAGE POPULATION.
UM, JUVENILE AVERAGE DAILY POPULATION DROPPED FROM 11 TO EIGHT, UM, WHICH IS, IS PRETTY TYPICAL.
THAT NUMBER FLUCTUATES FROM YEAR TO YEAR.
UM, UH, IF YOU LOOK AT THE OVERALL A DP ADULT AND JUVENILE COMBINED, WE HAD ABOUT 11.3% INCREASE BETWEEN 23 AND 24.
SO IF OUR BOOKING NUMBERS ARE STAYING THE SAME AND OUR A DP IS RISING, UM, THAT GENERALLY MEANS THAT PEOPLE ARE STAYING LONGER IN OUR CUSTODY.
SO I HAD MENTIONED OUR RELIGIOUS PROGRAMMING THAT IS, UH, OVERSEEN BY OUR JAIL CHAPLAIN, JAMES HILL.
HE HAS BEEN WITH US SINCE THE YEAR 2000.
AND, UM, HE KIND OF OVERSEES ALL OF THE PROGRAMMING.
HE'S GOTTA BE A, UM, SEMI EXPERT AT EVERY RELIGION.
SO IN 2024, WE HAD 27 DIF OVER 27 DIFFERENT RELIGIONS BEING PRACTICED WITHIN THE JAIL.
AND, UM, WE ARE OBLIGATED TO MEET CERTAIN, UM, NEEDS OF THOSE RELIGIOUS, UM, ACTIVITIES.
SO, UH, IT, IT'S PRETTY, IM IMPACTFUL ON WHAT WE ALL HAVE TO PUT INTO THAT TO MAKE SURE THAT, UH, EVERYBODY IS ABLE TO PRACTICE WHATEVER RELIGION THEY'RE PRACTICING.
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UM, WE ALSO SUPPLEMENT REVEREND HILL WITH, UM, VOLUNTEER BASED PROGRAMMING, RELIGIOUS PROGRAMMING.SO WE HAVE MEMBERS OF THE COMMUNITY WHO, UM, DONATE THEIR TIME AND DO REALLY GOOD WORK BEHIND OUR WALLS, UH, FOR PEOPLE WHO REALLY NEED IT A LITTLE BIT DEEPER INTO THE CONTRACTED SERVICES, I HAD MENTIONED THE MEDICAL SERVICES PROVIDED BY ADVANCED CORRECTIONAL HEALTHCARE, UM, 2024, WE WERE, UM, OFFERING 128 HOURS OF NURSING A WEEK.
UM, I BELIEVE YOU GUYS PROBABLY REMEMBER ALL THE DISCUSSION LAST YEAR ON, UM, THE SKYROCKETING COSTS OF MEDICAL CARE.
UM, WE ARE FEELING IT FOR SURE, UH, YOU'RE GONNA SEE THAT IN THE BUDGET HERE MOVING FORWARD.
BUT, UM, WE DID TAKE THE, WHEN WE WERE, UH, TASKED WITH NEGOTIATING OUR CONTRACT WITH ADVANCED CORRECTIONAL HEALTHCARE, KNOWING THAT ALL OF OUR RATES WERE GOING UP, WE DECIDED TO TAKE THAT TIME TO WORK IN ADDITIONAL HOURS SO THAT WE COULD STAY AHEAD OF, UM, THE GAME AND, AND CONTINUE TO PROVIDE ADEQUATE MEDICAL SERVICE.
SO, UM, THAT NUMBER OF 128 HOURS PER WEEK, WE DID MANAGE TO RAISE THAT TO 208 HOURS A WEEK.
UM, SO WE'VE GOT VERY, VERY GOOD COVERAGE.
WE ARE PAYING MORE, BUT WE WOULD'VE BEEN PAYING MORE EITHER WAY.
SO, UM, THAT WAS A REAL BENEFIT TO US, UH, FOOD SERVICE PROVIDER.
UM, IN 2024, WE, UH, WE SERVED 202,575 ADULT MEALS AND 9,929 JUVENILE MEALS.
SO IT'S SEVEN DAYS A WEEK, THREE MEALS A DAY.
UM, MY, UH, MY FOOD SERVICE, UH, IS, UH, IS ALWAYS WORK AT WORK.
SO, UH, WE HAVE OUR ELECTRONIC MONITORING PROGRAM.
UH, IT'S ANOTHER, ANOTHER WAY THAT WE CAN, UM, HOLD PEOPLE ACCOUNTABLE FOR THEIR ACTIONS, UH, BUT NOT HAVE THEM WITHIN THE CONFINES OF THE JAIL.
SO THE, THIS IS FOR INDIVIDUALS WHO ARE SENTENCED TO WORK RELEASE PRIVILEGES.
UM, IF THEY MEET CERTAIN CRITERIA, WE'LL PLACE THEM IN OUR ELECTRONIC MONITORING PROGRAM.
WE UTILIZE GPS BRACELETS AND, UH, SCRAM ALCOHOL MONITORS TO MONITOR THEIR DAILY MOVEMENTS.
UM, BUT THEY'RE BASICALLY SERVING THEIR SENTENCE AT HOME.
AND THEN WE ARE MONITORING FROM, FROM JAIL.
OUR EQUIPMENT PROVIDER FOR THAT IS JUSTICE POINT.
WE'VE BEEN PARTNERING WITH THEM SINCE 2020.
UM, OUR AVERAGE DAILY PARTICIPATION IN THE PROGRAM FOR 2024 IS, UH, 10 INMATES.
THE REASON FOR THE DECLINE, UH, IS JUST WE STRUGGLE TO FIND ELIGIBLE INDIVIDUALS FOR THAT PROGRAM.
UH, YOU REALLY NEED TO SHOW THAT YOU'RE LOW RISK AND, AND YOU'RE, YOU'RE MAKING GOOD DECISIONS.
AND IN MY LINE OF WORK, YOU DON'T, YOU DON'T GET EITHER OF THOSE VERY OFTEN.
SO, AND THEN I WILL, UH, FINISH UP WITH, UH, JUST TOUCHING BASE ON THE JUVENILE DETENTION CENTER.
UM, WE ARE ONE OF ONLY 12 COUNTY LEVEL JUVENILE DETENTION CENTERS IN THE, UH, STATE OF WISCONSIN.
SO OBVIOUSLY WITH THERE ONLY BEING 12 OF US OUT THERE, WE ALL BECOME KIND OF A REGIONAL FACILITY, HOUSING, NOT ONLY OUR OWN JUVENILES FROM WASHINGTON COUNTY, BUT ALSO HOUSING FOR OTHER COUNTIES ACROSS THE STATE.
AND WHEN I SAY ACROSS THE STATE, IT TRULY IS ACROSS THE STATE.
UM, IN 2024, WE HOUSED FOR 31 DIFFERENT COUNTIES.
UM, AND IT, IT WAS CLEAR FROM BORDER TO BORDER IN EVERY DIRECTION.
UM, WE'VE HOUSED JUVENILES, SO OUR BOARDING RATE, WE DO CHARGE A RATE OF $225 A DAY.
UM, SO THAT DOES, UH, COVER, YOU KNOW, A PORTION OF THE COSTS, OPERATING COSTS, IT DOES NOT COVER EVERYTHING, BUT, UM, IT DOES HELP TO OFFSET SOME OF THAT.
UM, ANYTIME YOU'RE OPERATING A JUVENILE DETENTION CENTER, YOU ALSO HAVE TO PROVIDE EDUCATION.
SO WE DO HAVE, THE WEST BEND SCHOOL DISTRICT HAS A SCHOOL WITHIN OUR, UM, JAIL WALLS.
IT'S CALLED THE WASHINGTON STREET SCHOOL.
THEY PROVIDE US WITH TWO FULL-TIME TEACHERS AND TWO TEACHER AIDES.
AND WE PROVIDE, UM, IT'S PRETTY MUCH YEAR ROUND.
AUGUST IS REALLY THE ONLY SUMMER BREAK, UM, THAT THEY RECEIVE.
SO IT'S KIND OF A SHORTENED SUMMER BREAK.
UM, WE HAVE AN EXTENDED SCHOOL YEAR, BUT ALL OF THE, ALL THE, ALL OF THE JUVENILES THAT ARE IN OUR CUSTODY ARE REQUIRED TO GO TO SCHOOL.
UM, AND THEN, UH, AGAIN, THE, THE OTHER COUNTIES THAT ARE OPERATING COUNTY LEVEL, UH, JUVENILE FACILITIES, UH, THAT WOULD BE BROWN COUNTY, DANE COUNTY, FOND DULAC, LA CROSS MARATHON, MILWAUKEE, AND THEN THERE'S A NORTHWEST REGIONAL CENTER, PORTAGE COUNTY, RACINE COUNTY ROCK COUNTY, AND SHEBOYGAN COUNTY, WAUKESHA COUNTY DOES,
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ARE, THEY'RE STILL TECHNICALLY OPEN.THEY HAVEN'T HOUSED JUVENILES THERE IN A FEW YEARS.
UM, BUT THEY'RE, THEY'RE MAINTAINING THEIR STATUS, SO IN CASE THEY, THERE'S A NEED THEY CAN REOPEN.
SO THAT IS MY, UM, HIGHLIGHTS FROM 2024.
IF ANYBODY HAS ANY QUESTIONS ON ANY OF THE OTHER STATISTICS, UM, THAT WERE WITHIN THE ANNUAL REPORT OR ANYTHING ELSE? NO.
ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS? THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
AND WE WELCOME CAPTAIN ROBERT STA.
YEAH, THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE.
UH, SO MY PRIMARY AREAS OF CONCERN ARE THE ADMINISTRATIVE, UH, PORTION OF THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE ARE OPEN, OPEN RECORDS, UH, CIVIL PROCESS, THINGS LIKE THAT ARE, UH, RADIO, UM, NEW COUNTY, UH, COUNTY WIDE RADIO SYSTEM.
AND THE COMMUNICATIONS CENTER, UH, BY FAR MOST OF MY TIME IN 2024 WAS CONSUMED WITH THE COMMUNICATION CENTER.
UH, AND THAT WAS DUE TO OUR CONSOLIDATION, OUR, UH, CONTINUED LIMITED STAFFING AND THE PSAP GRANTS THAT WE HAD APPLIED FOR.
SO I THINK WE'VE GOT PRETTY GOOD NUMBERS ON EVERYTHING WITH RESPECT TO OUR ADMINISTRATIVE ADMINISTRATION PORTION OF OUR OPERATION VERY QUICKLY, THE COUNTYWIDE RADIO SYSTEM IN 2024, UM, THIS HAS BEEN A LONG ONGOING PROJECT, UH, AND IT CONTINUED TO CHUG ALONG IN 24 WITH THE HIGHLIGHTS BEING THE, UH, INSTALLATION OF OUR MICROWAVE RING, UH, THE NEW HVAC UNITS AND ALL OF OUR TOWER SITES.
AND, UH, UPSS ON UNINTERRUPTIBLE POWER SUPPLIES AND OUR 700 EQUIPMENT, UH, BEING INSTALLED AT OUR TOWER SITE.
SO THAT, UH, PROJECT CONTINUES TO CHUG ALONG.
UH, WE HOPE TO HAVE COVERAGE TESTING DONE, UH, BY EITHER LATE COVERAGE TESTING TO START BY EITHER LATE AUGUST OR EARLY SEPTEMBER OF THIS YEAR.
UM, WE PLAN TO BE OFF OUR RENTED TOWERS IN OCTOBER.
AND THEN, UM, COMES THE WORK OF INSTALLATION OF, UM, RADIOS FOR OUR DPW UNITS ACROSS THE COUNTY, AND THEN OF COURSE, DECOMMISSIONING OF THE OLD TOWERS.
SO THE PROJECT'S GONNA CONTINUE GOING TO GO ON IN 2026 YET, BUT WE'RE HOPING THAT THE LION'S SHARE OF THE WORK IS DONE THIS YEAR.
SO I'D REALLY LIKE TO FOCUS ON COMMUNICATIONS BECAUSE THAT'S, UH, AGAIN, WHERE LION'S SHARE OF MY WORK HAS TAKEN PLACE.
UM, OUR CURRENT AUTHORIZED STAFFING IS THREE SUPERVISORS AND 23 AND A HALF DISPATCHERS.
UM, THE STAFFING ISSUE CONTINUES TO BE, UH, A CONCERN.
SO, UM, CURRENTLY WE'RE SEVEN DISPATCHERS SHORT AND TWO SUPERVISORS, UH, AND THAT PRETTY MUCH HELD SHORT TO FISCAL YEAR 2024 AS WELL.
AND THAT'S DUE TO A, A VARIETY OF REASONS.
RETIREMENTS, TRANSFERS, RESIGNATIONS, UM, FMLA LEAVES EXTENDED FMLA LEAVES.
UH, AND THEN WE CONTINUE TO HAVE HIGH TRAINING WASHOUT RATES.
SO FOUR OUT 10 PEOPLE THAT, UH, GET HIRED BY US AND ENTER THE TRAINING PROGRAM DON'T FINISH.
AND THAT'S PRETTY CONSISTENT, UH, INDUSTRY WIDE FROM WHAT WE'RE TALKING, BUT IT'S JUST, UH, IT'S A UNIQUE SKILL SET TO HAVE.
THERE'S A LOT OF MULTITASKING INVOLVED.
AND SO THAT CONTINUES TO BE AN ISSUE.
UM, IN OUR NUMBERS THAT WE PRESENTED TO YOU, THE, THE CALLING, MOST OF OUR INCREASES WERE DUE.
SO 2024 WAS THE YEAR THAT WE PRIMARILY HAD HARTFORD.
SO HARTFORD WAS FULLY CONSOLIDATED IN 2024, AND THE GERMANTOWN WORK CONTINUED TOWARDS THAT.
SO WITH RESPECT TO THE, THE CONSOLIDATION OF HARTFORD, WE SAW ABOUT A 7.2% INCREASE IN CALLS COMING INTO THE DISPATCH CENTER.
WE CAN ATTRIBUTE THAT TO THE HARTFORD CONSOLIDATION.
UH, THAT CONSISTED OF SOME, YOU KNOW, ALMOST 24,000 9 1 1 CALLS AND, YOU KNOW, 71,500 ADMINISTRATIVE CALLS.
THOSE ADMINISTRATIVE CALLS CAN COME FROM OFFICERS LOOKING FOR INFORMATION.
THEY CAN COME FROM PEOPLE WHO, UH, CALLING TO REPORT THINGS THAT THEY'RE NOT CALLING ON 9 1 1.
UM, THEY CAN CONSIST OF PEOPLE CALLING IN BURN LOGS AND DIFFERENT THINGS LIKE THAT.
AND THEY ALSO CONSIST OF, UM, THE TELEPHONIC OWI SEARCH WARRANT.
SO EVERY POLICE AGENCY IN WASHINGTON COUNTY TO BE ABLE TO GET A TELEPHONIC OWI SEARCH WARRANT FOR SOMEBODY THAT THEY'RE WITH.
IT STARTS WITH A CALL TO OUR DISPATCH CENTER.
THEY DIDN'T DO A THREE-WAY CALL WITH THE ON-DUTY JUDGE.
THE CALL IS RECORDED AND THAT, UH, THE RECORDING OF THAT CALL ULTIMATELY GOES BACK TO THE CLERK OF COURT.
SO, UH, DISPATCH IS HEAVILY INVOLVED IN THAT PROCESS AND THAT THOSE CAN BE TIME CONSUMING PROCESSES JUST BECAUSE OF THE, THE NATURE OF THOSE CALLS.
UM, I WOULD EXPECT MOVING FORWARD, ONCE WE, WE ARE FULLY CONSOLIDATED WITH GERMANTOWN NOW, AND I WOULD EXPECT FOR FISCAL YEAR 25 THAT YOU'RE GOING TO SEE AT LEAST ANOTHER 7% OR MORE INCREASE AGAIN IN CALLS, BECAUSE NOW WE HAVE GERMANTOWN AS WELL.
GERMANTOWN, HARTFORD ARE PRETTY SIMILAR AS FAR AS CALL VOLUME.
UM, I WISH I COULD GIVE YOU NUMBERS AS TO LIKE, HOW MANY CALLS ARE WE DISPATCHING TO HARTFORD.
UNFORTUNATELY, BECAUSE OF THE INTEGRATION OF OUR, OUR RECORDS MANAGEMENT SYSTEMS, UH, THOSE, THOSE NUMBERS WERE DIRTY AND IT WASN'T, I COULDN'T COME UP WITH
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ANYTHING THAT WAS, UM, USEFUL.I JUST COULDN'T DRAW ANY CONCLUSIONS FROM IT.
UM, I THINK NEXT YEAR NOW, BECAUSE WE'RE FULLY INTEGRATED AND WE'RE ON THE SAME SYSTEM, THE DATA WILL BE MUCH BETTER FOR, UH, NEXT YEAR.
BUT WHAT I CAN SAY, UH, AND THESE ARE GOOD NUMBERS, YOU KNOW, TO 2024, UH, FIRE CALLS.
SO TYPICALLY, OBVIOUSLY WE DID ALL THE, ALL THE FIRE DEPARTMENTS WITH THE EXCEPTION OF WEST BEND, HARTFORD, AND GERMANTOWN, WE ADDED HARTFORD TO THAT MIX LAST YEAR.
AND SO OUR DISPATCH CENTER HANDLED, UM, AN ADDITIONAL 33.4%, UH, CALL VOLUME IN FIRE CALLS.
SO THOSE ARE YOUR MEDICAL CALLS, YOU KNOW, THE PEOPLE HAVING HEART ATTACKS, FIRES, THINGS LIKE THAT.
SO THERE'S EXTRA TIME SPENT ON THE PHONE WITH THOSE CALLS, THE PAGING OF THE FIRE DEPARTMENT.
SO A BIG, BIG WORKLOAD WITH RESPECT TO FIRE CALLS.
AND I SUSPECT THAT ONCE I AM ABLE TO GET DECENT DATA FROM THE POLICE SIDE, AGAIN, BIG, BIG, UH, WORKLOAD, THAT BIG INCREASE IN WORKLOAD ON THE POLICE SIDE AS WELL.
AND I'M HOPING TO HAVE THOSE BETTER NUMBERS, UH, NEXT YEAR.
SO, NEEDLESS TO SAY, UM, WE PRETTY MUCH HANDLE THAT INCREASED WORKLOAD WITH A STAFFING THAT WAS VERY CONSISTENT WITH WHAT WE HAD WHEN WE ONLY HAD THE COUNTY ON, UM, CONCESSIONS HAVE BEEN MADE WITH THE OTHER POLICE AGENCIES, UM, TO BE ABLE TO ACCOMMODATE THE INCREASED WORKLOAD WITH, UH, THE DECREASED STAFFING.
UM, I DON'T KNOW THAT IT'S A PERFECT SCENARIO RIGHT NOW.
WE ARE WORKING TOWARDS SOMETHING THAT'S MORE PERFECT, BUT WE'RE MAKING IT WORK.
AND, UM, THE, THE AGENCIES OR ALL THE COMMUNITIES HAVE BEEN VERY GRACIOUS IN THE, IN THIS PROCESS.
AND WE HOPE THAT IN 26 WE CAN, WE CAN GET THERE, BUT I, THERE ARE SHORTCOMINGS, UM, WITH RESPECT TO THE, THE, THE PSAP GRANT THAT WE DID IN 24, IF YOU REMEMBER.
UM, THAT WAS THE ONE THAT, UM, KIND OF FACILITATED THAT, THAT HARTFORD PROJECT, UH, THAT BROUGHT US ON THE EXTRA CONSOLES THAT WE NEEDED, THE EXTRA, THE NEW BULLPEN FURNITURE AND ALL THINGS HARTFORD NEEDED.
THAT WAS IT, THAT GRANT PAID FOR THAT, UH, PRO PHOENIX PLATFORM THAT, THAT SOFTWARE MANAGEMENT.
AND THAT WAS A $473,000 90 10 SPLIT THAT WE INCORPORATED.
SO THAT WAS, UH, WE WENT, HAD A LOT OF TIME AND EFFORT DEVOTED TOWARDS THAT, UH, IMPLEMENTING THAT GRANT.
UM, WE CURRENTLY HAVE A GRANT GOING AS WELL.
WE CALL IT THE 20, THE FISCAL YEAR 25 PSAP GRANT.
UM, THAT GRANT IS ALL THINGS GERMANTOWN, WHATEVER IT TOOK TO GET THE GERMANTOWN CONSOLIDATION ON BOARD, UH, THAT WAS A $740,000, UH, 90 10 SPLIT GRANT.
AND ALTHOUGH IT DIDN'T HAP IT DIDN'T HAPPEN IN 24 A LITTLE BIT, 'CAUSE WE STARTED, THAT KICKED IT OFF IN DECEMBER 1ST ON LION'S SHARE HAPPENED THIS YEAR.
BUT I, I, WE ARE PROBABLY 85% COMPLETE WITH THE WORK ON THAT PARTICULAR GRANT.
THERE'S JUST PRETTY MUCH JUST ONE MAJOR COMPONENT, UH, THAT WE NEED TO WORK ON YET.
AND THAT'S, WE STILL HAVE ANALOG PHONE LINES IN, UH, DIS THE DISPATCH CENTER.
UM, WE'RE FINDING OUT THAT ANALOG IS A THING OF THE PAST, THAT THE AT AND T DOESN'T EVEN HAVE TECHNICIANS TO WORK ON IT.
AND WHEN WE HAVE FAULTS WITH IT, UM, IT'S VERY HARD EVEN TO GET A TECHNICIAN FROM AT AND T TO COME IN AND, AND ANALYZE IT AND FIX IT.
SO PART OF THIS PROJECT TAKES THOSE PHONE LINES AND TURNS 'EM INTO A VOIP, UH, A REDUNDANT VOIP.
THERE'S, THERE'S A REDUNDANCY INVOLVED IN IT.
AND SO WE'RE HOPING THAT WE CAN ALLEVIATE A LOT OF THE, UM, OUTAGES AND, AND THINGS THAT, THAT OCCUR ON THAT.
AND, UM, THOSE ANALOG LINES KIND OF SUPPORT OUR ADMINISTRATIVE PHONE LINES.
SO WE'RE HOPING THAT THAT'LL KIND OF STREAMLINE THAT PROCESS.
ANY QUESTIONS ON THE COMMUNICATION CENTER? ANY QUESTIONS FROM THE COMMITTEE? THANK YOU FOR YOUR THOROUGH REPORT.
MOVING ON TO THE NEXT ITEM, ITEM THREE C ON THE AGENDA COPO UNIT UPDATE.
SO I AM DEPUTY BLAKE DE MONK, UH, WITH THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE, AND I'M PARTNERED HERE WITH, UH, DAVE ARNT AND ABIGAIL REBECCA, UH, FROM HUMAN SERVICES.
AND WE'RE JUST HERE TO, UH, GIVE A PRESENTATION ON OUR CORRESPONDER UNIT THAT THROUGH THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE.
I JUST HAVE TO SET UP THE COMPUTER AND I'LL HAVE IT ON THE SCREENS FOR YOU IN JUST A SECOND HERE.
SEE BLAKE, I THINK IT'S ON THE BACKSIDE.
SO, UH, ONCE AGAIN, WE'RE, ALL THREE OF US ARE WITH THE CORRESPONDING UNIT WITH THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE.
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TO EXPLAIN, UH, WHO'S ALL ON OUR UNIT, WHAT OUR UNIT ALL ACCOMPLISHES, UH, THROUGHOUT THE COUNTY.UM, AND JUST PROVIDE SOME REAL, UH, LIFE EXAMPLES FOR YOU OF THINGS THAT WE HAVE RESPONDED TO AND ASSISTED WITH.
SO STARTING WITH THE DEMOGRAPHICS OF THE COUNTY, UM, POP APPROXIMATE POPULATION OF 137,000 INDIVIDUALS.
UM, POPULATION OF THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE JURISDICTION ALONE IS 50,100, UH, SHERIFF'S OFFICE MADE UP OF 93 SWORN DEPUTIES, UH, INCLUDING SIX FULL-TIME DEPARTMENTS, UH, WITHIN SIX MUNICIPALITIES THAT OUR UNIT ASSISTS.
UM, ONE THING TO NOTE WITH THE MUNICIPALITIES WITHIN THE COUNTY IS THAT, UH, WE WORK WITH EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THEM.
UM, SO OUR WORK IN MUNICIPALITIES, THE CITIES, THE VILLAGES, UM, AND THE TOWNS WITH POLICE DEPARTMENTS, UH, WE WORK EXCLUSIVELY WITH THEM, UH, THROUGH A REFERRAL SYSTEM.
SO THOSE AGENCIES, IF THEY HAVE AN INDIVIDUAL THAT THEY THINK WOULD BE, UH, APPROPRIATE FOR OUR UNIT TO FOLLOW UP WITH, THEY CAN COMPLETE A REFERRAL FORM AND GET THAT TO, UH, ONE OF THE TEAMS. AND THEN WE ARE ABLE TO WORK WITH THAT INDIVIDUAL GOING FORWARD.
AND THAT'S PRETTY MUCH HOW WE GET INVOLVED WITH OUR MUNICIPALITIES, IS JUST THROUGH A REFERRAL SYSTEM.
SO, UH, FOR AN INTRODUCTION TO THE TEAMS, I'LL KIND OF COVER THE LAW ENFORCEMENT SIDE AND I'LL LET MY PARTNERS HERE KIND OF COVER THE HUMAN SERVICES SIDE OF THINGS.
UM, SO WE HAVE FOUR TOTAL TEAMS, UH, AND IT IS MADE UP OF A PARTNERSHIP BETWEEN ONE DEPUTY AND ONE MENTAL HEALTH CLINICIAN WITH A MASTER'S DEGREE.
UM, SO THE DEPUTIES, UH, MY, I GUESS UNIFORM OF THE DAY, SO TO SPEAK, UH, IS KIND OF PLAIN CLOTHES.
THIS IS WHAT WE WOULD NORMALLY WEAR OUT.
UM, AND THE MAIN REASON WHY WE ARE IN PLAIN CLOTHES IS BECAUSE A LOT OF THE INDIVIDUALS THAT WE WORK WITH, UM, THE UNIFORM, JUST WITH ALL THE GEAR AND EVERYTHING, IT TENDS TO BE A LITTLE BIT OVERWHELMING, UM, AND INTIMIDATING.
AND SO WE'VE SEEN, UM, THAT THE PLAIN CLOSE IS A LITTLE BIT MORE OF A BETTER APPROACH TO IT, AND THEY'RE MORE WILLING TO KIND OF SPEAK WITH LAW ENFORCEMENT AND BUILD A RELATIONSHIP WITH SOMEONE WHO LOOKS A LITTLE LESS INTIMIDATING AND FULL OF GEAR.
UM, AND WE'VE SEEN SOME SUCCESS WITH THAT, BUT I'LL TURN IT OVER TO YOU GUYS FOR THE, SO OF, OF THE CLINICIANS, UH, AS BLAKE SAID, WE ALL HAVE MASTER'S DEGREES, UM, IN THE FIELD, SO TO SPEAK.
AND WE, WHAT'S INTERESTING ABOUT THIS UNIT IS IT'S, WE ARE TRULY EMBEDDED WITH THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE.
IF YOU THINK ABOUT VIETNAM ERA, LIKE REPORTERS THAT WOULD GO INTO THE FIELD AND SLEEP AND EAT WITH THE TROOPS, THAT'S KIND OF WHAT WE DO HERE.
UM, SO BLAKE AND I ARE PARTNERS.
WE SHARE OFF GROUPS OFF THE OFF TIME.
UM, AND, AND, AND AGAIN, WE ARE TRULY EMBEDDED.
OTHER, UH, CORRESPONDER UNITS KIND OF WILL JUST RESPOND BY PHONE OR RADIO.
UM, THEY'RE NOT ACTUALLY CONSISTENTLY WITH A, UH, A, UH, LAW ENFORCEMENT.
SO THAT'S WHAT MAKES US UNIQUE.
BUT AGAIN, THE, THE FOUR CLINICIANS, AGAIN, WE ALL HAVE MASTER'S DEGREES IN THE FIELD.
I'VE BEEN TRAINED AS A COUNSELOR, AND THE OTHER TWO, UH, CLINICIANS ARE ALSO IN, IN TRAINING TO, TO GET THEIR LICENSE, UH, FOR COUNSELING.
AND SO, UH, JUST A LITTLE BIT OF OVERVIEW OF WHAT OUR, UH, COVERAGE LOOKS LIKE FOR THE COUNTY.
UH, SO THE FOUR TEAMS WERE ON TWO SEPARATE ROTATIONS SO THAT WE CAN OBTAIN A FULL SEVEN DAYS OF COVERAGE.
AND THE HOURS OF COVERAGE EVERY SINGLE DAY ARE FROM 7:00 AM TO 10:00 PM.
UH, SO TWO TEAMS WORK KIND OF THE DAY SHIFT HOURS, UH, FROM 7:00 AM TO 5:00 PM AND THEN THE OTHER TWO TEAMS WORK A SECOND SHIFT, WHICH IS FROM 12:00 PM TILL 10:00 PM.
SO WE HAVE THAT COVERAGE FROM 7:00 AM TO 10:00 PM.
UM, AND THAT, YOU KNOW, OBVIOUSLY THAT LEAVES THE GAP FOR KIND OF THE THIRD SHIFT.
UM, BUT WITH OUR UNIT PRIMARILY DOING THE BULK OF OUR WORK AND FOLLOW UPS WITH INDIVIDUALS, WE LIKE TO NOT, UH, WAKE PEOPLE UP IN THE MIDDLE OF THE NIGHT TO FOLLOW UP WITH THEM.
SO, UH, WE PREFER TO DO THAT OBVIOUSLY, EITHER IN THE MORNING OR AFTERNOONS, UM, WHICH IS WHY WE DON'T HAVE THAT THIRD SHIFT COVERAGE.
SO A LITTLE BIT OF HOW OUR TEAM WITH WASHINGTON COUNTY MAY COMPARE TO SOME OF THE OTHER CORRESPONDER MODELS THAT YOU SEE AT A COUPLE OTHER AGENCIES.
UM, SO THERE'S A VARIETY THAT WE'VE SEEN, UM, AND WE ARE ABLE TO LEARN A LOT AT OUR ANNUAL CORRESPONDER CONFERENCE ABOUT HOW OTHER TEAMS DO THINGS AND LEARN HOW THEIR MODELS ARE COMPARED TO OURS.
UM, WE'VE SEEN MODELS WHERE THERE ARE,
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UH, MENTAL HEALTH PROFESSIONALS SITTING IN THE DISPATCH CENTER.AND WHEN A MENTAL HEALTH CALL COMES IN, UM, THAT MENTAL HEALTH, UH, PERSON WILL TAKE OVER THE PHONE COMMUNICATION WITH THEM.
UH, WE'VE SEEN MENTAL HEALTH PROFESSIONALS RIDING ALONG WITH FIRE AND RESCUE TO RESPOND TO CALLS THAT WOULD BE APPROPRIATE FOR THEM TO GO TO, UM, AGENCIES WHERE A CLINICIAN, IT HAS A OFFICE IN LAW ENFORCEMENT OR AT THE COUNTY OR AT A PD, UM, BUT DON'T NECESSARILY, THEY ARE NOT PARTNERED WITH LAW ENFORCEMENT.
THEY JUST HAVE A OFFICE THERE.
UM, MOBILE CRISIS UNITS, UH, AND THEN A SPECIFIC OUT-OF-STATE AGENCY MENTIONED THAT THEY, UH, ACTUALLY USE IPADS AND THEY HAVE THEIR OFFICERS WHO HAVE BASICALLY THAT SECOND IPAD WHERE THEY'RE ON A SCENE AND THINK LIKE, HEY, ARE YOU WILLING TO SPEAK WITH SOMEBODY? AND THEY JUST TALK THROUGH AN IPAD.
UM, A WHOLE LOT OF DIFFERENT VERSIONS.
UM, AND OF COURSE, YOU KNOW, WE CAN'T SPEAK FOR HOW THAT AGENCY, WHAT AGENCY TRAINING SPECIFIC THOSE OTHER PEOPLE GO THROUGH.
UM, BUT FOR US, UH, OUR CLINICIANS ARE PARTNERED DIRECTLY WITH THE DEPUTY, UH, TO FORM THE TEAMS. SO THERE'S EIGHT OF US TOTAL.
UM, AND WE RESPOND TOGETHER TO ALL CALLS.
THE ONLY EXCEPTION TO THAT IS, LET'S SAY, UH, ONE OF US ARE SICK OR ONE OF US TAKES VACATION, HAS AN OFF DAY.
UM, THAT DOESN'T STOP US FROM ACCOMPLISHING OUR GOAL FOR THE DAY.
UM, BOTH OF US INDIVIDUALLY ARE STILL ABLE TO DO FOLLOW UP AND ARE STILL ABLE TO RESPOND OUT TO CALLS EFFECTIVELY, UH, TO ACCOMPLISH THE SAME GOAL.
UM, THE DEPUTY PORTION OF RESPONDING OUT TO A CALLS IS, UM, KIND OF HANDLE THE LAW ENFORCEMENT PAPERWORK.
SO IF WE HAVE TO, UH, COMPLETE AN EMERGENCY DETENTION ON AN INDIVIDUAL, UM, THAT WOULD BE ME COMPLETING THAT PAPERWORK.
UM, SPEAKING WITH OTHER LAW ENFORCEMENT AND, UH, GOING THROUGH SPECIFIC TRAINING LIKE CRISIS INTERVENTION TRAINING AND, UH, CRISIS NEGOTIATION TRAININGS, UM, AND BASICALLY PROVIDING THE LAW ENFORCEMENT ASPECT OF THINGS.
UM, AND I'LL KIND OF, SO YEAH, EACH, YOU KNOW, EACH THE LAW ENFORCEMENT AND THE CLINICIANS.
SO I HAVE ACCESS TO THE LAW ENFORCEMENT SYSTEMS READ ONLY.
I CAN'T FILE AN INCIDENT REPORT, BUT I CAN PRETTY MUCH ACCESS THE REPORTS AND READ THEM, UM, THE DISPATCH CENTER.
I CAN KIND OF, YOU KNOW, ADD A, A CALL OR, OR WHATEVER, UH, A NOTE TO IT.
UH, CONVERSELY, LAW ENFORCEMENT HAS ACCESS TO OUR CLINICAL, UH, ELECTRONIC MEDICAL RECORDS READ ONLY.
OKAY? THEY CANNOT, UH, MAKE ANY ENTRIES OR MAKE ANY NOTES, BUT THEY DO HAVE FULL ACCESS.
AND BASICALLY, YOU KNOW, WE, THEY CAN VIEW WHATEVER, UH, MEDICAL RECORDS HAVE IN THEIR SYSTEM.
SO AGAIN, THAT'S BETWEEN HUMAN SERVICES AND THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE.
UM, AND AGAIN, I'M NOT SURE THAT OTHER CORRESPONDER TEAMS HAVE THAT.
THEY MIGHT, BUT, UH, THAT'S HOW WE WORK AND IT WORKED VERY WELL MM-HMM
AND AT THE END OF THE DAY, OUR MISSION IS CENTERED AROUND BUILDING RELATIONSHIPS, UH, WITH INDIVIDUALS WHO ARE WILLING TO WORK WITH US.
UM, AND USUALLY THROUGH THAT BUILT RAPPORT, WE CAN TRY AND GET THEM INTO THE HELP THAT THEY WANT FOR THEMSELVES, WHILE ALSO LIMITING LAW ENFORCEMENT CONTACTS, SPECIFICALLY NEGATIVE LAW ENFORCEMENT CONTACTS.
UM, SO KIND OF A FEW BENEFITS.
WE'VE COVERED SOME OF THESE ALREADY.
UM, BUT A LOT OF THE TIMES WE HAVE, YOU KNOW, WE USE THE TERM LIKE UNDER THE RADAR.
AND ESSENTIALLY WHAT THAT IS, IS INDIVIDUALS WHO, UH, MAYBE HAVE KNOWN ADDICTION OR MENTAL HEALTH DIAGNOSES AND CONSTANT LAW ENFORCEMENT CONTACTS.
AND IF WE CAN GET INVOLVED IN WORKING WITH THOSE INDIVIDUALS, UM, IT USUALLY HELPS LIMIT THOSE CONTACTS AND KEEPS THEM UNDER THE RADAR.
THAT'S ESSENTIALLY WHERE THAT TERM COMES FROM.
UM, AND DAVE KIND OF TALKED ABOUT HOW WE HAVE ACCESS TO EACH OTHER'S SYSTEMS TO BE ABLE TO GET INFORMATION MAYBE PRIOR TO RESPONDING DOWN THERE.
IT HELPS WITH RAPPORT BUILDING.
WE FOUND THAT IF DAVID'S MAYBE FAMILIAR FROM THE LAST TIME LAW ENFORCEMENT WAS CONTACTED, OR I'M FAMILIAR OF MAYBE WHAT THE LAST, WHEN THEY LAST SAW, YOU KNOW, HAD AN APPOINTMENT, UH, WITH HUMAN SERVICES, THAT HELPS TO BUILD A RAPPORT.
UM, BECAUSE THEN I CAN SHOW THAT I'M FAMILIAR WITH WHAT YOU'VE BEEN GOING THROUGH IN YOUR SITUATION A LITTLE BIT MORE.
UM, AND WE'VE SEEN THAT IN REAL TIME WITH THE INDIVIDUALS THAT WE WORK WITH.
UM, AND KIND OF ANOTHER THING, UH, ANOTHER PIECE OF THE PUZZLE FOR US IS FILLING A GAP OF CARE ON SCENE FOR VICTIMS OF CRIMES.
SO THIS KIND OF COVERS NOT NECESSARILY PEOPLE WITH A MENTAL HEALTH DIAGNOSIS OR, UH, SOMEBODY WITH AN ADDICTION, BUT TRAUMA, UH, TRAUMATIC CALLS, UM, VIOLENT CALLS THOSE PEOPLE ARE IN, I'D ARGUE THEY ARE IN CRISIS BECAUSE THEY WERE EXPOSED TO A TRAUMATIC EVENT, A VICTIM OF A TRAUMATIC EVENT, AND WE'RE ABLE TO ALSO HAVE A CONNECTION WITH THOSE INDIVIDUALS.
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WE'LL, WE HAVE A SPECIFIC CASE WITH THAT LATER THAT WE'LL, UH, DISCUSS AS WELL.SO THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE DEPUTIES ARE PRETTY COMFORTABLE WITH OUR UNIT AND WHAT WE CAN DO, AND THEY WILL REQUEST US QUITE OFTEN, THE OTHER JURISDICTIONS WITHIN WASHINGTON COUNTY, EH, THEY'RE LEARNING.
UM, BUT AGAIN, MOST OF THEM, IF NOT ALL OF 'EM, UH, HAVE GIVEN US AN OPEN INVITE, UM, TO, TO COME INTO THEIR CITY OR THEIR TOWN TO WORK WITH PEOPLE.
SO, UH, I KIND OF GOT INTO THIS A LITTLE BIT EARLY.
UM, BUT WE, A, UH, ANOTHER THING THAT KIND OF SEPARATES US A LITTLE BIT FROM OTHER CORRESPONDENT MODELS WE FOUND IS, UM, THAT WE KIND OF GO BEYOND, I GUESS, THE ORIGINAL SCOPE OF, UH, THE CORRESPONDENT MODEL, UM, BY ASSISTING AT THE TRAUMATIC INCIDENTS, UH, SUPPORTING VICTIMS OF VIOLENT CRIME, UM, GIVEN THE FOLLOW UP TO CLIENTS PARTICIPATING IN, UH, DEATH NOTIFICATIONS AND ASSISTANCE WITH NEGOTIATIONS, UH, WHEN APPROPRIATE.
AND IN THE NEXT FEW SLIDES HERE, THEY'RE GONNA, THOSE ARE KIND OF GONNA BE THOSE CASE EXAMPLES OF, UM, REAL CASES THAT WE HAVE GONE, UM, MAYBE A LITTLE BIT BEYOND THE SCOPE, UM, TO OFFER ASSISTANCE AND PROVIDE RESOURCES.
SO A, A BIG DIFFERENCE BETWEEN US AND JUST THE STANDARD CRISIS CENTER, UM, OR OTHER CRU TEAMS IS THAT WE DO A, A GREAT AMOUNT OF FOLLOW UP WITH PEOPLE.
UM, ONE PERSON, WE MAY HAVE MULTIPLE CONTACTS.
I JUST GOT A MESSAGE THIS MORNING FROM A CLIENT FROM ABOUT A YEAR AGO.
SHE KEPT MY CARD, KEPT MY NUMBER, AND SHE'S HAVING SOME DIFFICULTIES AGAIN.
UM, AND AGAIN, SHE'S NOT CALLING 9 1 1, AND THAT'S THE GOAL.
WE DON'T WANT THE COMMUNITY CONSUMERS TO JUST DIAL 9 1 1, WHICH INITIATES LAW ENFORCEMENT RESPONSE.
IF THEY, IF THEY HAVE OUR INFORMATION, THEY, UH, AGAIN, THEY CAN EITHER, UH, LEAVE A MESSAGE OR, UH, AND WE CAN RESPOND DIRECTLY.
BUT AGAIN, WE WANT TO, WE WANT TO DECREASE THE CALLS FOR EMERGENCY SERVICES TO, TO THEM.
UM, SO WE HAVE BEEN REQUESTED FOR, UH, SCENES OR CASES INVOLVING COMPLETED SUICIDES.
UM, AND HOW, HOW DO WE USUALLY GET NOTIFIED OF THIS? UH, EITHER OFFICERS OR DEPUTIES CONTACT US SAYING LIKE, HEY, WE THINK YOUR PRESENCE DOWN HERE WOULD BE NEEDED FOR THE FAMILY TO ASSIST THE FAMILY.
UM, AND SOMETIMES WE'VE BEEN REQUESTED DIRECTLY FROM THE MEDICAL EXAMINER'S OFFICE, UH, REQUESTING US TO COME DOWN AND SPEAK WITH THE FAMILY AND OFFER SOME RESOURCES FOR THEM.
UM, THE DEPUTY KIND OF PROVIDES LIKE THE INVESTIGATIVE, UH, END OF THINGS OF THIS IS WHAT TO EXPECT.
YOU KNOW, WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO ASK SOME QUESTIONS.
I KNOW YOU'RE GOING THROUGH A LOT, BUT JUST WANNA PUT THIS ON THE RADAR THAT YOU KNOW, THAT WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO BRING THIS UP AND TALK ABOUT THIS AGAIN, JUST TO GET SOME INFORMATION.
UM, WHILE, YOU KNOW, THE, UH, MENTAL HEALTH CLINICIANS ARE ABLE TO SIT THERE AND PROVIDE SUPPORT TO THE FAMILIES, UM, AND EDUCATE ON THE PROCESS OF GRIEF, UM, SIDE EFFECTS THAT THEY'RE EXPECTED TO HAVE, THAT LOSS OF APPETITE, LOSS OF SLEEP, AND NORMALIZE THOSE SYMPTOMS FOR THAT, UH, SPECIFIC SCENE.
UM, AND THEN OFF SCENE, LIKE DAVE MENTIONED, LOSS AND LOTS OF FOLLOW UP WITH THESE FAMILIES WHERE THEY'RE WITH THEM AS MUCH AS THEY ALLOW US TO, AS MUCH AS THEY WANT US TO, UM, YOU KNOW, ALL THE WAY UP TO, YOU KNOW, THE POTENTIAL CELEBRATION OF LIFE OR A FUNERAL, WHICH CAN OBVIOUSLY BE, BRING UP ALL THOSE EMOTIONS AGAIN, UM, SUPPORT THROUGH THAT TYPE OF THING AND MAKE SURE THAT THEY HAVE ACCESS TO THE RESOURCES, OR AT LEAST THE KNOWLEDGE OF RESOURCES OUT THERE.
AND AGAIN, IT IS A VOLUNTARY SYSTEM.
IF, IF PEOPLE DON'T WANT TO TALK TO US, WE'RE NOT GONNA FORCE 'EM TO MM-HMM
OKAY, WE'LL, WE'LL GIVE 'EM OUR, OUR CARD, OUR INFORMATION.
IF YOU NEED THIS CALL, CALL NINE EIGHT EIGHT, CALL TWO ONE ONE SOMETHING IF YOU'RE FEELING BAD, YOU KNOW, SOMETIMES PEOPLE JUST DON'T WANT TO TALK TO US.
UM, THIS ISN'T A PROGRAM THAT'S FORCED ON PEOPLE.
IT IS, YOU KNOW, IF YOU ARE LOOKING FOR ASSISTANCE WITH WHATEVER IT IS YOU MAY BE GOING THROUGH, WE'RE HERE, HERE TO HELP GUIDE YOU TO THE RESOURCES THAT WE HAVE AVAILABLE.
UH, SO WITH THIS FIRST CASE, UM, THIS WAS A DEATH NOTIFICATION.
UH, THIS INVOLVED OUR TEAM INVOLVING DEPUTY PEARSON, CLINICIAN MARIN.
UM, AND ESSENTIALLY HOW IT CAME ACROSS WAS A OUT-OF-STATE PD HAD SENT A TELETYPE OR BASICALLY NOTIFIED OUR AGENCY, UH, TO GIVE DEATH NOTIFICATION TO A RESIDENT OF WASHINGTON COUNTY, OF A RELATIVE FROM OUTTA STATE.
AND ULTIMATELY, THE DEATH, UH, WAS RULED A HOMICIDE AND WAS PARTICULARLY GRUESOME.
UM, SO WHAT OUR TEAM DID IS THEY, UH, USED COLLATERAL INFORMATION
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FROM BOTH HUMAN SERVICES AND FROM PRIOR LAW ENFORCEMENT CONTACTS, UM, AND HAD SEEN THAT THE PERSON THAT THEY WERE GONNA PROVIDE THE DEATH NOTIFICATION TO HAD PASSED MENTAL HEALTH CONCERNS.UM, SO THEY WERE ABLE TO USE THAT COLLABORATIVE INFORMATION TO APPROPRIATELY GO AND PROVIDE THAT NOTIFICATION, UM, IN AS GENTLE OF A WAY AS POSSIBLE.
UH, EDUCATED WITH, YOU KNOW, THE DETAILS THAT THEY COULD SHARE AT THAT TIME THAT WERE KNOWN, WHILE ALSO PROVIDING THAT SHORT TERM SUPPORT IN THE MOMENT.
UH, AND THEN THROUGH FOLLOW UP CONTACTS, THEY WERE ABLE TO FOLLOW UP WITH THIS INDIVIDUAL TO ENSURE THAT, YOU KNOW, SHE WAS SAFELY, UH, COPING WITH THAT NEWS AND ULTIMATELY ASSISTED HER IN THAT GRIEF PROCESS AND MOVING FORWARD TO MAKE SURE THAT, UM, THAT SHE WAS OKAY.
UM, AND WITH THIS SECOND CASE, UH, THIS WAS ALSO DEPUTY PEARSON, CLINICIAN MARIN, UH, THIS WAS A REFERRAL RECEIVED FROM, UH, THE LIEUTENANT OF DETECTIVES, UH, REQUESTED CRU AT THE SCENE.
UM, IN THIS CASE, UH, AN ELDERLY COUPLE WAS SCAMMED, AND FOUR INDIVIDUALS HAD ATTEMPTED A BREAK-IN, IN THE MORNING HOURS, UM, AND WERE FOUGHT OFF BY THE HOMEOWNER AND THEY LEFT THE SCENE AT THAT TIME, BUT LATER, LATE AT NIGHT, THEY RETURNED TO THE SAME HOUSE AND BROKE IN AND HELD THE COUPLE AT GUNPOINT.
AND SO THERE WERE TWO BREAK-INS WITHIN A DAY FOR, UH, THESE HOMEOWNERS.
AND ULTIMATELY THE CRU TEAM WAS ABLE TO RES RESPOND DOWN THERE AND PROVIDE AS MUCH SUPPORT AS WE POSSIBLY COULD IN THAT MOMENT.
UM, ONE WAS ENOUGH, OBVIOUSLY, RIGHT? BUT TWO WITHIN 24 HOURS, PROBABLY THE SAME INDIVIDUALS, RIGHT? UM, THEY NEEDED SUPPORT AND WE WERE ABLE TO PROVIDE THAT TO THEM.
UM, AND LOTS OF FOLLOW UP WITH THAT FAMILY.
UM, YOU KNOW, LOTS OF RESOURCES FOR THERAPY AND HOW IT CAN HELP THEM GET THROUGH THE PROCESS, UM, AND GET THEM THROUGH WHAT THEY WERE VICTIMS OF.
AND A UNIQUE THING IS THAT THE CRU WAS PRESENT, UH, DURING THEIR VICTIM IMPACT STATEMENT TO OFFER SUPPORT, UM, WHICH WE THINK IS A VERY UNIQUE WAY OF GETTING INVOLVED IN ASSISTING THE RESIDENTS OF WASHINGTON COUNTY.
AND ABBY, IF YOU WANNA TALK ABOUT THIS ONE, I'LL SCOOT OVER HERE SO YOU GUYS CAN HEAR ME.
UM, SO THIS WAS ONE OF OUR CASES WITH AN INDIVIDUAL, I'LL CALL HIM JOHN DOE.
UM, HE HAD, UM, PRETTY SEVERE MENTAL ILLNESS.
HE WAS DIAGNOSED WITH SCHIZOPHRENIA, UM, AND A LOT OF HIS SYMPTOMS RESULTED IN POLICE AND LAW ENFORCEMENT CONTACT AND BEING PLACED ON CHAPTER 51, EMERGENCY DETENTIONS.
DUE TO HIS MENTAL ILLNESS, HE HAD A LOT OF PARANOIA, UM, HALLUCINATIONS AND DELUSIONS, UH, AND A LOT OF THOSE SYMPTOMS REVOLVED AROUND LAW ENFORCEMENT.
HE FELT LIKE LAW ENFORCEMENT WAS TARGETING HIM.
UM, SO WHEN WE FIRST MET WITH HIM, WE KIND OF HAD AN UPHILL BATTLE WITH TRYING TO KIND OF DISCUSS WHAT OUR PROGRAM COULD DO.
HE HAD HAD A LOT OF INVOLVEMENT IN VARIOUS COUNTY PROGRAMS. AND SO REALLY BUILDING THAT RELATIONSHIP WITH HIM SO THAT HE COULD FEEL COMFORTABLE, UM, WITH US FIRST, AND THEN WE COULD TALK TO HIM ABOUT PROGRAMS THAT WERE AVAILABLE, UM, AND REALLY KIND OF MEET HIM WHERE HE WAS AT.
OUR FIRST, I THINK, UM, EARLIER, UH, THEY WERE DISCUSSING HOW THIS IS A VOLUNTARY PROGRAM.
OUR FIRST ATTEMPT AT CONTACT WITH HIM, UM, WE GOT TO HIS HOUSE AND WE INTRODUCED OURSELVES AND HE'S LIKE, YOU NEED TO LEAVE NOW.
AND WE'RE LIKE, OKAY, WE'LL TALK TO YOU LATER.
AND SO THAT ACTUALLY BUILT TRUST WITH HIM BECAUSE HE REALIZED LIKE, OKAY, WE'RE NOT FORCING THIS ON HIM.
WE'RE NOT THERE TO ARREST HIM.
WE'RE NOT THERE TO FORCE MENTAL HEALTH TREATMENT ON HIM.
UM, HE, PRIOR TO OUR INVOLVEMENT WITH HIM, THERE HAD BEEN 22 CALLS WITH THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE, INCLUDING AT LEAST ONE SWAT CALL.
UM, HE WOULD REGULARLY ARM HIMSELF, UM, AS PART OF HIS PARANOIA, HE WOULD FEEL LIKE HE WAS PROTECTING HIMSELF, BUT ULTIMATELY THAT PUT OTHERS IN DANGER.
UM, AND SO THERE'S THAT INCREASED LEVEL OF DANGER WITH HIM.
AND, UM, WE HAD 27 FOLLOW UPS WITH HIM BETWEEN OCTOBER OF 2023, MARCH, 2024.
DURING THAT TIME, WE BUILT THAT TRUST WITH HIM.
WE WERE ULTIMATELY ABLE TO CONNECT HIM WITH, UM, PSYCHIATRY THROUGH THE COUNTY THERAPY AND CASE MANAGEMENT SERVICES.
UM, WE ALSO PROVIDED A LOT OF SUPPORT TO HIS FAMILY DURING THAT TIME.
HE WAS LIVING AT HOME AND LIVING WITH SOMEBODY WITH THAT LEVEL OF MENTAL ILLNESS TAKES A TOLL ON THE FAMILY ALSO.
SO WE WERE REALLY ABLE TO SUPPORT THEM THROUGH THAT PROCESS.
AND SINCE THAT TIME, UM, THERE HAVE BEEN NO ADDITIONAL LAW ENFORCEMENT CONTACTS WITH THAT INDIVIDUAL.
AND, UH, KIND OF OUR LAST EXAMPLE HERE IS WITH ASSISTING WITH CRISIS
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NEGOTIATIONS.UM, A GREAT EXAMPLE OF THIS, UH, IS WITH THE OZAKI COUNTY SWAT CALL THAT OCCURRED, I BELIEVE IT WAS A MONTH OR TWO MONTHS AGO NOW.
UM, ESSENTIALLY IT WAS A INDIVIDUAL WHO IS, UH, IN HIS RESIDENCE AND WAS SHOOTING ROUNDS OUT OF HIS HOUSE IN A SUBDIVISION, JUST IN A GENERAL DIRECTION, NOT SPECIFICALLY ON ANYBODY, AND WAS REFUSING TO COME OUT.
UM, AND OBVIOUSLY DUE TO THE DANGER TO THE PUBLIC AT THAT TIME, SWAT WAS PAGED.
AND ULTIMATELY IT, UH, IT LASTED QUITE SOME TIME.
I THINK IT ENDED UP BEING A 30 SOME HOUR NEGOTIATION WITH THIS INDIVIDUAL.
BUT, UM, DUE TO IT BEING SO EXTENDED, OZAKI COUNTY HAD REQUESTED, UM, OTHER RESOURCES AND REQUESTED THE WASHINGTON COUNTY, UH, NEGOTIATOR TEAM TO COME OUT.
AND, UH, DAVE AND I JUST SO HAPPENED TO BE WORKING THAT DAY AND WERE REQUESTED, UM, TO GO OUT AND ASSIST IN ANY WAY THAT WE CAN.
UM, SO WE WENT OUT THERE AND WE ULTIMATELY, RECE, SORRY, RELIEVED, UH, OZAKI COUNTY, UM, AFTER THEY HAD SPENT ALL NIGHT, LIKE A 12 HOUR POST, UM, TRYING TO NEGOTIATE WITH THIS INDIVIDUAL.
AND THEY BRIEFED US AND WE KIND OF TOOK OVER FROM THERE.
UM, AND ESSENTIALLY THE BIGGEST, I THINK PLUS ABOUT THAT, UH, IS THE TRAINING THAT WE HAD GONE TO, THAT OUR AGENCY HAS US GO THROUGH.
UH, THAT HELPED TREMENDOUSLY, ESPECIALLY GOING THROUGH, UH, NEGOTIATOR SCHOOL.
IT HELPS WITH, UM, NEGOTIATING WITH INDIVIDUALS IN CRISIS.
AND A UNIQUE PERSPECTIVE TO IT IS USUALLY A NEGOTIATION TEAM IS MADE UP OF, UH, LAW ENFORCEMENT DEPUTIES OR DISPATCHERS.
UM, BUT HAVING MENTAL HEALTH PROFESSIONALS THERE, WE FOUND A HUGE ADVANTAGE TO THAT.
UM, HOW DAVE WAS ABLE TO HELP ON SCENE.
A LOT OF IT WAS INTEL GATHERING.
UH, SO HE WAS ABLE TO REACH OUT TO MULTIPLE DIFFERENT COUNTIES, UH, TO SEE IF THEY HAVE HAD CONTACT WITH THIS INDIVIDUAL, TO SEE IF THERE'S ANY POSSIBLE CONNECTIONS THAT WE CAN POSSIBLY USE TO BUILD A RAPPORT WITH THIS INDIVIDUAL.
UM, ANY PERTINENT INFORMATION THAT WOULD HELP US BETTER UNDERSTAND WHAT MENTAL STATE THIS INDIVIDUAL MIGHT BE IN.
UM, AND AS WELL AS, UH, A NEIGHBOR HAD BEEN EVACUATED, AND SHE WAS VERY CLEARLY IN SHOCK AND, UH, TRAUMATIZED BY EVERYTHING THAT WAS GOING ON.
AND DAVE SPENT, I BELIEVE IT WAS AROUND TWO HOURS, UM, WITH HER TALKING HER THROUGH, UH, THE SYMPTOMS AND PROVIDING SUPPORTIVE LISTENING AND RESOURCES, UH, FOR HER ON SCENE.
UM, WHILE THE DEPUTIES ATTEMPTED CONTACT WITH THE INDIVIDUAL MULTIPLE TIMES TO TRY TO NEGOTIATE.
UM, BUT ESSENTIALLY, UH, IT, IT ULTIMATELY ENDED WELL.
THE INDIVIDUAL ENDED UP COMING OUT AND SURRENDERING AFTER A VERY, VERY LONG STANDOFF.
UM, BUT THAT'S JUST KIND OF ANOTHER VERY UNIQUE THING I THINK ABOUT OUR TEAM THAT WE CAN ASSIST, WHETHER IT'S OUR OWN COUNTY OR ASSIST OTHER AGENCIES, UH, IN PROVIDING HELP IN THE WAY THAT WE CAN.
SO EVERY, EVERY MEMBER OF OUR UNIT, UH, LAW ENFORCEMENT AND CLINICIANS, GOES THROUGH A WEEK LONG FBI CRISIS NEGOTIATION TRAINING.
UM, AND AGAIN, WE CLINICIANS GET THAT TRAINING IN OUR MASTER'S DEGREE AS WELL.
WE LEARN HOW TO TALK TO PEOPLE, UH, ACTIVE LISTENING, IT'S CALLED.
AND AGAIN, THERE'S THIS EXTRA TRAINING.
SO WE ALL ARE ON BOARD ON, AGAIN, HOW TO TALK PEOPLE DOWN.
SO, UH, THIS NUMBER IS EVER CHANGING.
UM, 550 PEOPLE SERVED BETWEEN 24, UH, AND 2025.
UM, AND I JUST WANT TO SAY THAT THIS NUMBER IS NOT A NUMBER THAT INCLUDES FOLLOW-UP CONTACTS.
THESE ARE NEW INDIVI 550, UH, NEW INDIVIDUALS.
OUR NUMBER WOULD BE SKYROCKETED, UH, IF WE INCLUDED LIKE OUR FOLLOW-UP CONTACTS WITH INDIVIDUALS.
SO THESE ARE 550 DIFFERENT PEOPLE, FAMILIES, UM, THAT WE HAVE BEEN ABLE TO ASSIST SO FAR IN PROVIDING RESOURCES, OFFERING RESOURCES, UM, AND ASSISTING IN ANY WAY POSSIBLE.
UM, THE CLINICIAN THAT CREATED THIS PRESENTATION USED IT, I THINK AT, UH, A DIFFERENT PRESENTATION A FEW MONTHS AGO.
SO OUR AG OUR, PROBABLY, IF WE PULLED THE NUMBERS NOW, CLOSE TO A THOUSAND, IT WOULD BE 900 AT LEAST.
AND, AND AGAIN, THAT'S INDIVIDUAL PEOPLE.
AS ABBY SAID, ONE, ONE CLIENT WAS WORTH 27 CONTACTS.
AND, YOU KNOW, HOW DO YOU GAUGE IF A PROGRAM IS, IS GOOD AT LOOKING AT THE CONTACTS OR LOOKING AT PEOPLE SERVED, YOU KNOW? AND AGAIN, I THINK OUR BIG GOAL IS PEOPLE SERVED CONSUMERS, KEEPING 'EM OUT OF THE CRIMINAL JUSTICE SYSTEM, YOU KNOW, HELPING 'EM INTO THE MENTAL HEALTH SYSTEM.
OUR, OUR, OUR ACTUAL NUMBERS IS GREATER THAN THAT.
SO WITH THAT SAID, THAT PRETTY MUCH COVERS EVERYTHING.
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UM, HERE'S A PHOTO OF SEVEN OF US, UH, AND OUR FOURTH DEPUTY, OF COURSE.UM, ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS AT ALL? ANY QUESTIONS FROM THE COMMITTEE? THANK YOU FOR YOUR PRESENTATION.
UM, AS, AS WE'RE GOING THROUGH THIS, IT'S, IT'S IMPORTANT TO NOTE THAT, UH, MENTAL HEALTH WAS MENTIONED DURING THE SH THE, UH, UH, CAPTAIN LEHMAN'S REPORT WITH REGARD TO THE JAIL.
IT'S BEEN MENTIONED A NUMBER OF TIMES IN THE COMMUNITY JUSTICE COORDINATING COMMITTEE, UM, HOW IMPORTANT MENTAL HEALTH IS.
UM, AS PEOPLE, AS OUR SOCIETY TRANSITIONS BECOMES MORE FRAGMENTED, THERE IS LESS FAMILIAL SUPPORT FOR A LOT OF OUR RESIDENTS.
AND SO IT'S IMPORTANT THAT, UH, THAT THERE IS A SUPPORT SYSTEM IN OUR COUNTY TO ASSIST THESE INDIVIDUALS.
IT'S ALSO IMPORTANT TO NOTE THAT FOR A NUMBER OF YEARS THERE HA THERE WAS ALWAYS A CALL NINE ONE ONE CALL NINE ONE ONE, CALL NINE ONE ONE FOR, FOR JUST ABOUT ANYTHING, RIGHT? AND THAT'S NOT WHAT 9 1 1, IN MY OPINION, WAS DESIGNED FOR.
AND SO IT IS IMPORTANT THAT WE HAVE ALTERNATE RESOURCES THAT, THAT DON'T MOBILIZE A FIRE DEPARTMENT, THAT DON'T MOBILIZE, UM, SHERIFF DEPARTMENT OR POLICE DEPARTMENTS IN, IN A WAY THAT WOULD OVERWHELM THE PEOPLE THAT NEED THAT CARE.
UM, WE APPRECIATE THE WORK THAT YOU DO AND, AND YOUR REPORT.
AT THIS POINT, UM, IN OUR AGENDA, LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, I, I MUST APOLOGIZE ESPECIALLY TO MEMBERS OF THE COMMITTEE THAT I DID NOT PROPERLY ASCERTAIN THE NUMBER AND THOROUGH NATURE OF THE REPORTS THAT WE HAVE BEFORE US THIS MORNING.
FOR THOSE WHO HAVE PREPARED REPORTS, IT IS IMPORTANT THAT, AND THEY DESERVE AN APPROPRIATE AMOUNT OF TIME TO GIVE THEIR REPORTS.
UM, I DO HAVE A HARD STOP AT EIGHT 20, WHICH IS EIGHT MINUTES FROM NOW.
AND SO I WILL LEAVE IT TO THOSE WHO ARE UP FOR THE F FUTURE REPORTS, UH, EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT, YEAR TO DATE, DISTRICT ATTORNEY, AND JAIL AND KITCHEN UPDATE.
UM, IF WE CAN SQUEEZE 'EM IN, YOU'RE WELCOME TO DO THAT.
IF YOU WOULD PREFER TO DEFER TO NEXT MONTH, WE WILL, UM, ENTERTAIN THAT AS WELL.
THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME THIS MORNING.
UM, AND SO, UM, MR. LOFI, DO YOU HAVE A PREFERENCE? UH, I CAN WAIT UNTIL NEXT MONTH IF, IF ANYBODY ELSE NEEDS TO GO SOONER.
UH, DISTRICT ATTORNEY BRATS, YOUR, YOUR REPORT WAS VERY THOROUGH.
THE STATE IS NOT HOLDING UP THEIR END OF THE DEAL, AND WE NEED TO FIGURE OUT A WAY TO, UM, PROPERLY CONTINUE WITH, UM, DIS THE DISTRICT ATTORNEYS WORK IN WASHINGTON COUNTY AS, AS LAID OUT IN YOUR REPORT.
UM, IS THERE ANYTHING YOU NEED TO ADD? UH, NO.
I CAN COME NEXT MONTH TOO, IF YOU, THAT'S NOT A PROBLEM.
WE WILL, WE'LL MAKE BOTH OF YOU A PRIORITY NEXT MONTH, AND I APOLOGIZE FOR YOUR, YOUR TIME THIS MORNING.
UM, MS. HERDRICH, YOUR REPORT ON THE, ON THE, UH, KITCHEN, IT WAS REALLY JUST TO CLOSE THE LOOP WITH YOU.
AND IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FROM THE REPORT, I'D BE HAPPY TO ANSWER THEM.
UM, BUT, UM, DON'T REALLY HAVE A WHOLE LOT OF EXTRA TO ADD BEYOND WHAT'S IN THAT REPORT.
YEAH, IT LOOKED LIKE IT NEEDED TO BE DONE AND, AND NOW IT'S DONE AND VERY GOOD.
IT WAS QUITE A PAINFUL PROCESS, UM, MOSTLY FOR HIM.
BUT, UH, WHEN WE GOT THROUGH IT, ARE THERE, UH, ANY OBJECTIONS FROM THE COMMITTEE TO PROCEEDING IN THAT WAY? OR DO YOU WISH TO PLOW THROUGH? IN MY ABSENCE, I, I HAVE NONE.
UM, MR. SAGER, I HAVE JUST ONE THING TO ADD BEFORE YOU CLOSE FOR TODAY.
UM, I JUST WANTED TO POINT OUT A FEW THINGS, AND I'M BIASED.
UM, THE COUNTY AS A WHOLE HAS AN EXCEPTIONAL WORKFORCE, BUT I'M VERY BIASED.
UH, PUBLIC SAFETY WITH ME'S, OFFICE EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT, THE DA'S OFFICE, CLERK OF COURTS, AND THE SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT.
JUST WANT TO TOUCH BASE ON, ON THE SHERIFF AND HIS REPORT.
WE HAVE AN AMAZING LEADERSHIP TEAM FROM THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE, SHERIFF SICE, CAPTAIN STA, CAPTAIN TOYISH, CAPTAIN LAYMAN, OUR LIEUTENANTS, OUR DETECTIVE BUREAU IS SECOND TO NONE, UH, REFERENCING THE, UH, PRESENTATION AND COMMENDATION THAT SHERIFF S SCHULTE GAVE.
I JUST WANT TO MAKE IT CLEAR THAT WHEN DEPUTY ROUSH PERFORMED THOSE DUTIES, HE WOKE UP THAT MORNING NOT THINKING SOMETHING OF THAT NATURE WAS GONNA HAPPEN, BUT IT DID.
SO WHEN IT'S OVER, HE JUST DOESN'T SAY, WELL, OKAY, I DID MY THING FOR THE DAY.
WELL, HE GETS BACK IN HIS SQUAD,
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DOES HIS THING, AND THE NEXT INCIDENT COULD COME UP 10 MINUTES LATER, 30 MINUTES LATER, THAT ADRENALINE RUSH IS THERE.THESE DEPUTIES, OUR LEADERSHIP IS AMAZING.
WHETHER YOU WEAR A BAR, TWO BARS, OR YOU'RE WEARING FIVE BUGLES, WE HAVE GREAT LEADERSHIP IN OUR DEPUTY DIVISION.
I WANNA MAKE IT VERY CLEAR THAT AS A COMMITTEE, YOU HEAR ALL THESE THINGS, BUT THIS IS A DAY-TO-DAY OPERATION FROM THESE INDIVIDUALS.
AND WHILE MONEY'S VERY TIGHT EVERYWHERE AND YOU'RE THE POWER OF THE PURSE, BUT THESE REAL LIFE EXPERIENCES THAT THESE DEPUTIES AND OUR DA'S OFFICE AND OUR CLERK OF COURTS, AND IT'S ALL INTERMINGLED, IT'S ALL INTERTWINED HOW VALUABLE THOSE RESOURCES ARE FOR THE INDIVIDUALS THAT PERFORM THE DUTIES THAT WE ACTUALLY COME TO KNOW AND EXPECT FROM OUR LAW ENFORCEMENT, FROM OUR FIRE PERSONNEL.
SO WHEN YOU, WHEN YOU LOOK AT A BUDGET AND THE SHERIFF IDENTIFIED AS BUDGET, THAT'S A BIG NUMBER.
BUT EVERY SINGLE PENNY IS SPENT WISELY.
AND IF IT WERE UP TO ME AND I HAD A MAGIC WAND, I'D TRIPLE THEIR WORKFORCE BECAUSE THEY'RE THAT GOOD.
AND I'VE BEEN AROUND LAW ENFORCEMENT FIRE MY ENTIRE CAREER, AND THEY TRANSCEND EVERYTHING.
THE, THE DISPATCH OFFICE, LIEUTENANT BLAIR IS EXCEPTIONAL.
UH, I WOULD BE REMISS IF I DIDN'T TOUCH BASE ON OUR FRONT OFFICE STAFF AND THE NINE INDIVIDUALS THAT WORK IN THE FRONT OFFICE, THEY HAVE THE TITLE OF ADMINISTRATIVE ASSISTANT, 1, 2, 3, BUT THEIR JOB DESCRIPTION IS SO MUCH MORE THAN JUST BEING AN ADMINISTRATIVE ASSISTANT.
THEY JUST DON'T ANSWER THE TELEPHONE AND SAY, PLEASE HOLD, I'LL GET, UH, LIEUTENANT DEMMLER ON THE LINE.
THEIR, THEIR, THEIR, THEIR JOB DESCRIPTION IS FAR MORE EXPANSIVE THAN THAT.
UH, WE HAVE, UH, MS. OTTERMAN, WHO IS OUR ACCOUNT SPECIALIST, SHE'S AMAZING.
SO EVERYTHING THAT THAT, UH, IS BEING DONE FROM THE SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT AND HIS ANNUAL REPORT, IT'S ONLINE.
ANYBODY WHO, WHO'S WATCHING, THEY CAN GO ONLINE AND, AND VIEW THE ANNUAL REPORT.
LIKE THE SHERIFF SAID, IT'S, IT'S, UH, HISTORICAL.
HE'S GOT EVERY SINGLE ONE RIGHT UP UNTIL 2024 FOR YEARS.
SO I JUST, I WOULD BE REMISS THAT IF, UH, I DIDN'T TOUCH BASE ON THOSE THINGS AND HOW VALUABLE OUR LAW ENFORCEMENT AND OUR SHERIFF'S OFFICE IS, IT'S, IT'S ABSOLUTELY AMAZING.
THEIR COMMUNITY RELATIONS ARE OUTSTANDING AS, AS YOU CAN SEE WITH CREW, THEY'RE DOING EVERYTHING THEY POSSIBLY CAN TO PROVIDE A SAFE AND SECURE COMMUNITY.
SO I JUST THOUGHT I'D WRAP IT UP WITH THAT.
UM, I THINK THOSE SENTIMENTS ARE, UH, WE ALL AGREE WITH THOSE SENTIMENTS, SO THANK YOU.
ARE THERE ANY, I THOUGHT THEY HAD IT ALL.
OUR NEXT MEETING WILL BE AUGUST 20TH.
UM, THANK YOU FOR YOUR INTERESTING AGAIN, AND, AND WITH MY APOLOGIZE FOR THE REPORTS THAT ARE BEING DEFERRED, WE ARE ADJOURNED.
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WITH LIBERTY JUSTICE FOR ALL.THE FIRST TIME, UM, MEETING MINUTES.
UM, FIRST, UH, LAST WEEK'S, UH, MEETING INTO THE CONSENT AGENDA.
ARE THERE ANY CHANGES OR ANYTHING TO BE OF NOTE THERE IS JUNE AND JULY ON THERE TOO.
SO, BUT BOTH OF THOSE, I DON'T SEE ANY, ANY PROBLEM WITH THAT.
ALRIGHT, THEN, UH, WE'LL CONSIDER THOSE AS ACCEPTED.
UH, WE HAVE A FAIR PARK HORSE ARENAS UPDATE.
DO WE HAVE SCOTT HERE, OR ARE YOU TAKING THAT MR. BUR? I BELIEVE SCOTT UPDATED JAMIE.
THERE IS A REPORT THAT THE HIGH, UH, PUBLIC WORK CHIEF PUBLIC WORKS OFFICER PUT IN YOUR PACKET REGARDING THE, KIND OF THE STATUS OF THE PROJECT.
HE JUST WANTED TO CLOSE THE LOOP AND REPORT BACK THAT THE WORK WAS COMPLETED AND THE FINAL COST OF THAT WORK.
AND, UM, IS, I'M HERE IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT THAT.
SO THANK YOU FOR YOUR SUPPORT OF THAT PROJECT.
UM, WE WILL MOVE ON TO THE OVERVIEW OF THE CITY OF WEST BEND, UH, THE PRGE BRAKE SITE, AND YOU'LL BE TAKING NOTE.
UM, I JUST WANTED TO GIVE A, A BRIEF OVERVIEW OF, UM, THIS PROJECT, UM, A LITTLE HISTORIC, UM, CONTEXT.
UM, SO THE PRA KEY BRAKE SITE IS, UM, A SITE IN WEST BEND, UM, THAT HAS BEEN ONE OF THE HIGH PRIORITY REDEVELOPMENT SITES, UM, ON THE INVENTORY THAT WAS CREATED OVER 10 YEARS AGO.
AND WE ARE FINALLY HAVING AN OPPORTUNITY, UM, TO ASSESS THE SITE AND REDEVELOP IT.
UM, BACK IN, UH, 2020, WE RECEIVED A-U-S-E-P-A REVOLVING LOAN FUND GRANT.
AND, UM, IT IS DUE TO EXPIRE, UM, AT THE END OF SEPTEMBER OF THIS YEAR.
UM, THE REVOLVING LOAN FUND GRANT IS ACTUALLY, UM, KIND OF A, A TOUGH NUT TO CRACK IN TERMS OF FINDING AN, UH, THE RIGHT SITE TO USE THE FUNDS FOR.
SO UNLIKE THE COUNTY ASSESSMENT OR THE U-S-E-P-A ASSESSMENT FUNDS, UM, THE REVOLVING LOAN FUND HAS A, UM, NOT JUST A, A NARROW FOCUS FOR WHERE THE FUNDING CAN BE SPENT, AND IT'S TYPICALLY THE REMEDIATION COMPONENT AND THE PLANNING FOR THAT REMEDIATION.
UM, BUT IT ALSO HAS SOME VERY, UM, UH, LARGE TRANSPARENCY REQUIREMENTS.
SO THERE IS A COMMUNITY INVOLVEMENT PLAN THAT NEEDS TO BE DEVELOPED AND FOLLOWED.
UM, THERE NEEDS TO BE, YOU KNOW, PUBLIC MEETINGS AND UNLESS YOU HAVE A DEVELOPER, UM, THAT IS VERY,
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UM, EXPERIENCED AND WORKING WITH A-U-S-C-P-A REVOLVING LOAN FUND GRANT, UM, TYPICALLY THE RIGHT SITE, UM, FOR THOSE FUNDS ARE, IS A SITE THAT IS OWNED BY A MUNICIPALITY.SO IN ANTICIPATION OF ASKING FOR AN EXTENSION, UM, TO THE REVOLVING LOAN FUND, WHICH, UH, I DO ANTICIPATE THAT I'LL BE SUBMITTING AN EXTENSION FOR THAT, UH, FUND.
UM, BY THE END OF JULY, EARLY AUGUST, UM, WE THOUGHT TO GET THE BEST CHANCE OF GETTING AN EXTENSION FROM THE EPA, UM, WOULD BE TO HAVE A SITE, UM, THAT IS ALREADY THROUGH MOST OF THE APPROVAL PROCESS.
UM, AND THE STARS ALIGNED WITH THE PR KEY BREAK SITE.
UM, WE HAVE BEEN WORKING, UM, WITH THE CITY OF WEST BEND AND THEIR CONSULTANT, UM, STANTEC, WHO IS THE COUNTY'S CONSULTANT, UM, AND EDWC, AS WELL AS THE WISCONSIN DNR, AND PUTTING TOGETHER A FULL PACKAGE, A REALLY A ROADMAP, UM, TO BE FOLLOWED FROM THE, UH, PHASE ONE ASSESSMENT ALL THE WAY THROUGH REDEVELOP, UM, UH, UP TO, BUT NOT INCLUDING THE REDEVELOPMENT.
SO ALL THE WAY THROUGH THE REMEDIATION.
UM, AND, UM, ADAM IS GOING TO COME UP AND PROVIDE YOU WITH A LITTLE MORE DETAIL ON THOSE, UM, REQUESTS FOR FUNDING.
UM, BUT BEFORE HE DOES THAT, I JUST WANTED TO GIVE YOU AN OVERVIEW OF THE FULL PACKAGE, UM, OF DEVELOPING, UH, THIS SITE.
AND I KNOW TYPICALLY WE WOULD COME AND REQUEST, YOU KNOW, FUNDS FOR A PHASE ONE ASSESSMENT, AND THEN WE'LL WAIT AND SEE WHAT THE RESULTS ARE AND THEN COME BACK FOR FUNDING ON A PHASE TWO ASSESSMENT.
AND THEN HAZARD, UH, MITIGATION PLANNING, A REMEDIAL ACTION PLANNING.
AND IT'S A, IT'S A STEP BY STEP PROCESS.
UM, BUT DUE TO THE EXPIRATION DATE OF THE REVOLVING LOAN FUND, WE PUT TOGETHER THIS FULL PACKAGE FULL ROADMAP.
UM, SO THE SRC UH, MET LAST WEEK AND THEY DID APPROVED FUNDING FOR THE PHASE ONE ESA, UM, IT'S UNDER 10,000.
UH, THE TWO REQUESTS WE HAVE TODAY THAT ADAM WILL REVIEW IS THE SAY GRANT MATCH, AND THAT SAY, GRANT WILL FUND, UM, PHASE TWO HAZARD MITIGATION TESTING AND REMEDIAL ACTION PLANNING.
UM, THE SECOND REQUEST FOR YOU TODAY IS, UH, REDEVELOPMENT PLANNING.
AND THEN IN ADDITION TO THAT, UM, THE SRC ALSO APPROVED FUNDING THROUGH THE U-S-C-P-A REVOLVING LOAN FUND, UM, FOR ELIGIBILITY DETERMINATION, UH, COMMUNITY INVOLVEMENT PLAN ANALYSIS OF THE CLEANUP ACTIVITIES, AND A DECISION MEMORANDUM ALL TO NOT EXCEED ABOUT $16,000.
IN ADDITION TO FUNDING THOSE THINGS THAT NEED TO BE COMPLETED, UM, TO APPLY FOR THE ACTUAL LOAN OF THE REVOLVING LOAN FUND, UH, THE SRC PROVIDED A PRELIMINARY RECOMMENDATION, UM, TO THE RLF COMMITTEE.
SO THE LOANS FROM THE U-S-C-P-A REVOLVING LOAN FUND DO NOT COME TO THIS COMMITTEE AND ACTUALLY GOES TO THE REVOLVING LOAN COMMITTEE OF THE EDWC.
UM, BUT THEY DID GIVE, THE SRC GAVE PRELIMINARY RECOMMENDATION FOR UP TO $580,000 FOR A LOAN FOR ABATEMENT, DEMOLITION, SUBSURFACE REMEDIATION AND REPORTING.
SO I JUST WANTED TO PROVIDE YOU WITH THE BIG PICTURE, UM, THE WHOLE ROADMAP, UM, FOR THE ASSESSMENT AND CLEANUP OF THE PR KEY SITE.
UM, AND ADAM IS GOING TO PROVIDE YOU WITH THE DETAILS ON THE SPECIFIC REQUESTS.
TWO QUESTIONS FIRST, DO WE NEED A MOTION AND A SECOND FOR THIS? THERE'S MONEY INVOLVED, OR IS THIS JUST DISCUSSION? THIS WAS, UH, THIS WAS JUST A PART OF THE OVERVIEW INFORMATION.
I JUST AGENDA ITEM, I KNOW WE'RE TALKING MONIES.
THE SECOND QUESTION IS, YOU KEEP SAYING LOAN FUND GRANT, IS IT A GRANT OR A LOAN OR A COMBO OR WHAT? IT IS A LOAN.
UM, I CONSIDER IT A GRANT THROUGH THE U-S-C-P-A THAT PROVIDES LOANS.
SO IT'S GOTTA BE REPAID, RIGHT? IT IT, YES.
THERE IS A, THERE IS A PORTION THAT, UM, IT COULD BE POTENTIAL FOR FORGIVEN, UM, BUT WE ARE VERY FAR FROM THAT DISCUSSION.
WE ARE JUST SETTING THE STAGE, UM, TO GET TO THE POINT WHERE WE COULD APPLY FOR A LOAN.
THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN? YES, MS. KY, ONE SEC.
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MATERIAL AND I SAW THAT THERE WAS A LOT OF WORK PERFORMED, I GUESS LIKE IN THE EIGHTIES AND NINETIES.ARE WE JUST GOING OVER THE SAME WORK, OR IS THIS IN ADDITION TO, THESE ARE, THIS IS WORK THAT IS IN ADDITION TO, UM, THERE HAS BEEN, UM, WORK DONE, UM, ON THE SITE FOR REMOVAL OF THE CONTAMINATION, UM, MATERIALS THAT HAVE BEEN THERE.
UM, AND I'M GONNA ACTUALLY HAND IT OVER TO ADAM AND HE'LL BE ABLE TO PROVIDE YOU WITH SOME OF THAT DETAIL.
UM, SO THE EIGHTIES AND THE, THE WORK IS TO CONFIRM THE ASSESSMENT WORK FROM THE EIGHTIES AND NINETIES BECAUSE THERE IS DIFFERENT REGULATIONS, UH, WITH THE STATE AT THAT POINT, UH, TO CONFIRM THEIR RESULTS.
UM, BUT IN ADDITION, THERE'S ANOTHER PLUME THAT WASN'T REALLY ASSESSED.
IT WAS JUST KIND OF, UM, THERE, IT WAS IDENTIFIED, BUT IT WAS, IT WASN'T, THE FURTHER ASSESSMENT WORK WASN'T COMPLETED.
UM, SO THERE IS ANOTHER SECTION OF THE SITE THAT DOES NEED, UM, NEW ASSESSMENT WORK? I WOULD SAY SO, YEP.
I GUESS MY CONCERN IS, YOU KNOW, AFTER READING THE MATERIAL, IS THAT WE'RE KIND OF PUTTING MORE MONEY.
IT'S SOMETHING WE'VE ALREADY SPENT MONEY ON, BUT, AND IT'S JUST A CONFUSING SITUATION.
I'M NOT SAYING IT'S NECESSARILY WRONG OR ANYTHING.
'CAUSE HONESTLY, MY, MY REAL BIG CONCERN IS THAT SITE COULD BE HEAVILY POLLUTED, UH, BECAUSE OF THE NATURE OF THE INDUSTRIES THAT WERE ALL IN THERE, ESPECIALLY THE AUTO YARDS.
AND YOU'D HAVE TONS OF, OF BENZENE AND GASOLINE AND ALL THE REST OF THAT AND THE SOIL.
SO, UH, YEAH, SO THE ONE THING TO KEEP IN MIND IS WHEN THE PROPERTY CHANGES HANDS, UM, YOU ACTUALLY HAVE TO DO A PHASE ONE ENVIRONMENTAL SITE ASSESSMENT.
UM, THE BANK USUALLY ACQUIRES THAT, AND THOSE ARE ONLY GOOD FOR SIX MONTHS.
SO IN TERMS OF THE PHASE ONE, UM, THAT, YOU KNOW, IS HISTORICAL AND THEY'RE GONNA BE LOOKING AT THAT AGAIN.
BUT YEAH, THERE, THE, THE SITE IS HEAVILY CONTAMINATED, AND SO IT IS VERY IMPORTANT THAT WE DO A THOROUGH ANALYSIS OF WHAT IS THERE NOW, UM, SINCE A LOT OF THAT MATERIAL, UM, HAS BEEN, UM, REMOVED.
AND IN ADDITION, THE, WE HAVE, THE SITE ITSELF HASN'T, OTHER THAN THE PHASE ONE, UH, ENVIRONMENTAL SITE ASSESSMENT, UH, IT HASN'T USED FUNDS FROM OUR FUNDING SOURCE AS OF YET.
SO ALL THE OTHER ASSESSMENT WORK WAS COMPLETED BY PRIVATE INDIVIDUALS, UM, FUNDING ASSESSMENT WORK TOO.
SO JUST FOR, FOR THE CONTEXT, THANK YOU.
WE ARE FINISHED AS I UNDERSTAND IT WITH AGENDA ITEM THREE B.
AND NOW WE ARE MOVING ON WITH ITEM THREE C, OR ARE WE STILL CONTINUING WITH THREE B? NO, I, I'M CONTINUING WITH THE OVERVIEW.
SO JUST A LITTLE BIT MORE CONTEXT ON THE SITE ITSELF.
SO, UM, THE, UH, AS DEB HAS MENTIONED, IT'S BEEN A PRIORITY SITE SINCE 2014.
UM, THE HISTORY OF THE SITE HAS, YOU KNOW, AS YOU SAW, HAS HAD SEVERAL DIFFERENT USE USES THE NAMESAKE OF THE SITE, WHAT IS PRGE BREAK, UH, IN THE EIGHTIES TO 2003.
UH, AND THEN MOST RECENTLY IT WAS OWNED BY FIVE R PROCESSING OR PROCESSORS, UH, WHICH, UH, WAS ILLEGALLY STORING HAZARDOUS MATERIAL THERE, UM, AND WENT TO JAIL AND FINED.
AND THAT'S THE REASON WE'RE KIND OF IN THIS CURRENT, UH, STATE OF, OR THE SITE IS THAT CURRENTLY IN ITS CURRENT STATE, UH, WHERE IT'S VACANT AND IT'S JUST KIND OF, UH, DILAPIDATED AND KIND OF FALLING APART.
UM, SINCE THEN, THE CITY OF WEST BEND HAS BEEN WORKING REALLY HARD TO GET THIS SITE REDEVELOPED.
IT'S RIGHT NEXT TO THE ISEN BOND TRAIL.
IT'S IN THE MIDDLE OF A RESIDENTIAL, UH, SITE OR RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT.
UH, SO THEY HAVE BEEN WORKING WITH THROUGH THE COURT SYSTEMS TO ASSIGN A RECEIVERSHIP TO THE SITE.
UH, SO THE COURTS HAVE ASSIGNED RECEIVERSHIP.
UH, THE RECEIVERSHIP ALLOWS THE SITE TO COMPLETE ASSESSMENT WORK, UH, AND FURTHER KIND OF WITH THE EVENTUAL END GOAL OF TRANSFERRING THE SITE, UH, TO A NEW PROPERTY OWNER FOR THE REDEVELOPMENT OF IT.
UM, BEFORE IT WAS KIND OF LOCKED IN THAT, YOU KNOW, PROPERTY OWNER, WE COULDN'T TOUCH THE SITE EVEN THOUGH THE ROOF WAS COLLAPSING AND, AND CERTAIN THINGS LIKE THAT.
UH, THERE WAS A RAISE ORDER THAT WAS COMPLETED.
UM, CHILDREN, HOMELESS PEOPLE KIND OF WANDERING THROUGH THE SITE, BREAKING IN, STUFF LIKE THAT.
UM, SINCE THE RECEIVERSHIP, UH, WASTE MANAGEMENT HAS BEEN ON THE SITE THROUGH THE CITY OF WEST BEND, THEY UTILIZE SOME EARMARKED FUNDS THROUGH THE WISCONSIN DNR, UH, TO CLEAN UP A LOT OF THE MATERIAL THAT WAS IN THERE.
UH, FIVE R PROCESSOR WAS A RECYCLING COMPANY, UH, AND THEY WERE JUST KIND OF HOARDING A BUNCH OF ELECTRICAL WASTE THERE.
UM, WASTE MANAGEMENT CAME ON THE SITE, CLEANED OUT A MAJORITY OF THE ACTUAL, UH, ITEMS THAT WERE STORED THERE.
UH, AND THEN THE EPA ACTUALLY WERE ON THE SITE AS WELL TO CLEAN UP A PORTION OF THIS ASBESTOS, UH, THAT WAS ON THE SITE.
SO ONLY A PORTION, NOT ALL OF IT.
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UM, NOW WE'VE BEEN WORKING WITH THE CITY, UH, TO TRY AND IDENTIFY FUNDING SOURCES TO GET TO THAT EVENTUAL REDEVELOPED STATE.AND, UH, THAT'S WHERE WE END UP NOW.
SO, I MEAN, UNLESS, YOU KNOW, YOU WANT ME TO GO THROUGH THE, ALL THE FUNDING SOURCES, WE KIND OF HAVE ALLOCATED IT, JUST KIND OF A BEST GUESS AND ESTIMATE AT THIS POINT.
UM, BUT YEAH, WE HAVE SEVERAL DIFFERENT FUNDING SOURCES.
I THINK THOSE, THE FUNDING SOURCES ARE WELL DOCUMENTED IN THE PACKET, SO THERE'S NO NEED TO OKAY.
REEMPHASIZE THOSE AT THIS POINT.
WHEN YOU TALK REMEDIATION, IS THAT GONNA ALSO INCLUDE THE BUILDING DEMOLITION, OR IS THIS JUST CLEANUP POTENTIALLY? SO WE CAN UTILIZE THE CLEANUP LOANS FOR DEMOLITION IF WE NEED TO GET TO THE, UM, THE CONTAMINATION ITSELF.
SO IF WE NEED TO GO THROUGH THE FOUNDATION TO GET TO AND REMOVE THE CONTAMINATION, THEN YES, IF IT'S NOT THAT, IT MIGHT ONLY BE A PORTION OF THE DEMOLITION, BUT CORRECT.
EITHER WAY, IT'LL GET CLOSER TO REDEVELOPMENT AND THAT PRIVATE ENTITY OR DEVELOPER THAT COMES ALONG WON'T HAVE THAT COST, UM, ASSOCIATED WITH THE SITE.
ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS? AT THIS POINT? I'M GOOD.
IF EVER THERE WAS A SITE THAT NEEDED BROWNFIELD'S REMEDIATION, IT'S THIS.
ALRIGHT, NOW ONTO ITEM THREE C ON THE AGENDA.
DO WE HAVE A MOTION SUPERVISOR? SICE SUPERVISOR.
SO THE FIRST FUNDING REQUEST THAT WE HAVE IS THE SITE ASSESSMENT GRANT MATCH.
SO THE IDEA BEHIND THIS, SO WISCONSIN ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT CORPORATION HAS A SITE ASSESSMENT GRANT, UH, WHICH ALLOWS FOR, OR PROVIDES FUNDING FOR, UH, ASSESSMENT WORK AND, UH, THE ENVIRONMENTAL REPORTING THAT'S NECESSARY FOR THE SITE.
SO TO KIND OF GET MORE BANK FOR OUR BUCK, UH, WE WERE WORKING WITH THE CITY AND THEIR CONSULTANT TO, UH, WELL, THEY HAVEN'T APPLIED YET, UH, BUT IF APPROVED, THEY WILL APPLY FOR A SITE ASSESSMENT GRANT, UH, FOR A TOTAL OF 150,000.
UM, AND ATTACHED TO THAT, TO THAT GRANT, UH, IS A 33.33% MATCH COMPONENT THAT THE CITY WILL HAVE TO PAY.
SO THE, THE, NOT ANTICIPATION, BUT THE, UH, THE REASON FOR THIS FUNDING REQUEST IS TO PROVIDE THAT MATCH, THAT FULL 33%, UM, AND THEN THE CITY OF WEST BEND WILL PAY BACK 20% OF, OF THAT MATCH TO US.
UH, SO IN THE END, UH, WE'LL BE PAYING 40,000 AND THEN THEY'LL BE PAYING, WELL, WE'LL BE PAYING THE 50,000 RIGHT AWAY, AND THEN THE CITY OF WEST BEND WILL PROVIDE THAT 20% MATCH COMMITMENT BACK TO US.
UH, SO IN TOTAL, 40% IS GOING FROM THE SITE ASSESSMENT FUND, UM, THE, WHEN, HANG ON.
UH, MOSTLY, I, I THINK I LOST MY TRAIN OF THOUGHT, BUT, UM, QUESTIONS COULD HELP
THE WEST BEND, UH, WHEN, WHEN ARE THEY DUE? THE PAY THAT BACK IT AT THE END OF THIS THING OR BEFORE WE GET GOING? OR IT WOULD BE, UH, WHEN THEY'RE AWARDED IT.
IF THEY'RE AWARDED IT, THEN WE WOULD REQUEST THAT 20% BACK, UH, BECAUSE THAT'S WHEN THE, THE COMPLETION OF THAT MATCH WOULD BE ALLOCATED.
UM, AND WE'VE DONE ONE OTHER SIMILAR MAT OR, UM, WE'VE, WE'VE APPLIED FOR A SAY, GRANT, UM, MATCH THROUGH THE CITY OF HARTFORD AS WELL FOR THE, UM, SOUTH MAIN STREET SITES.
UM, SO WE HAVE DONE THIS IN THE PAST AS WELL.
THAT, THAT WAS THE OTHER THING I WAS GONNA SAY BEFORE BRAIN, YOU KNOW, PAUSE, SO.
ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS ON THIS ITEM THEN? TO THE MOTION OF, UH, WHETHER WE SHOULD RECOMMEND THE COUNTY EXPEND 47,500? OF WHICH 40,000, SORRY, OF WHICH THE CITY WOULD THE COUNT THE CITY WOULD PAY BACK 9,000.
AM I LOOKING AT THE, THE WRONG? YES, YOU MIGHT BE LOOKING AT THE SECOND FUND, YOUR REQUEST.
THE FIRST ONES 50,000, 1540, A TOTAL OF 40,000.
YEAH, THIS IS FOR, THIS IS FOR THREE C MM-HMM
FOR THE S MATCH, IT'S, UM, 50,000 TOTAL WITH 40,000 FROM THE COUNTY AND 10 FROM THE CITY OF WEST BEND.
THERE ARE, THERE ARE TWO ITEMS THAT WERE LABELED PRTY FULL, AND I GOT CONFUSED ON THAT.
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TO THE NEXT ONE.ITEM 3D, DO WE HAVE A MOTION SUPERVISOR? SHARIN SECOND SUPERVISOR, KEL.
UM, FOR THIS FUNDING REQUEST, WE HAVE, UH, REUSE PLANNING REQUESTS FOR THE PRGE SITE.
UH, SO THE IDEA BEHIND THIS FUNDING REQUEST IS WE WOULD LIKE TO START ENGAGING THE PUBLIC EARLY IN THE PROCESS, UH, TO GET FEEDBACK ON WHAT THE EVENTUAL CONCEPTS, UH, FOR THE REDEVELOPMENT OF THIS SITE WILL BE.
UH, SIMILARLY, WE'VE, WE'VE, UM, WE'VE DONE REUSE PLANNING BEFORE FOR THE ST.
UH, AND THEN KIND OF SIMILARLY, WE'RE ALSO DOING A MARKET ANALYSIS FOR THE SITE TO KIND OF GET THE BEST IDEAS OF WHAT WOULD BE FEASIBLE FOR A DEVELOPER TO REDEVELOP THE SITE INTO.
UH, AND SIMILARLY, WE'VE DONE THAT IN THE CITY OF HARTFORD WITH THE KMART SITE, UH, THAT'S NOW FESTIVAL FOODS.
UM, THE TOTAL REQUEST IS $47,500.
UH, AND IT WOULD UTILIZE FROM THE SITE REDEVELOPMENT PROGRAM, IT WOULD USE 38,000, AND THEN THE 20% MATCH THAT THE CITY WOULD HAVE TO PROVIDE WOULD BE $9,500.
UM, THE EVENTUAL DELIVERABLES WILL BE A REUSE PLAN FOR THE SITE, UH, WHICH WILL INCLUDE CONCEPT PLANS TO BASICALLY, YOU KNOW, OUTLINE WHAT THE PREFERRED END USES WILL BE ON THE SITE, UH, LIKE RESIDENTIAL, COMMERCIAL, THINGS OF THAT NATURE.
UH, A SITE ANALYSIS, SO WHAT'S NEAR THE SITE, WHAT KIND OF, UM, BENEFITS OR AMENITIES ARE ADJACENT TO THE SITE, UH, AND THEN THE MARKETING ANALYSIS WELL IN THERE.
SO, UM, WITH THAT, UM, ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS? UH, YEAH, SUPERVISOR KILLING.
UM, SO JUST TRYING TO GET MY HEAD A LITTLE BIT AROUND THIS, UM, THIS IS KIND OF A, AFTER WE GET IT CLEANED UP PLAN TOWARDS MAKING THIS SITE REUSABLE.
SO AFTER IT'S CLEANED UP, ONCE THE DEVELOPER'S ON THE SITE OR ONBOARD WITH PURCHASING THE SITE AND REDEVELOPING THE SITE, UH, THEY CAN UTILIZE THIS, THIS PLAN TO CREATE THEIR OWN DESIGN.
UH, IN ADDITION THE WISCONSIN DNR AND, UH, OTHER FEDERAL FUNDING, LIKE THE EPA, UH, USUALLY REQUIRES SOME TYPE OF, THEY IT, THEY DON'T REQUIRE.
BUT IF THERE'S PLANS IN PLACE THAT SHOW THAT THE PUBLIC HAVE BEEN INVOLVED IN THE PROCESS, IT'S EASIER TO GET FUNDING, UH, FOR THE SITE AS WELL.
SO IT'S NOT, THIS ISN'T GOING TO BE CONNECTED DIRECTLY TO THE SEG GRANT, BUT, UM, ADDITIONAL FUNDING DOWN THE LINE, LIKE THE USEP REVOLVING LOAN FUND, IT CAN HELP, UH, WITH THE PROCESS.
AND THEN THAT COULD, UH, POTENTIALLY GET IT OFF OUR HANDS.
I'M JUST, I GUESS I'M CONCERNED THAT AT SOME POINT SOMEBODY'S GONNA THROW THIS INTO A TID DISTRICT, WHICH SEEMS TO BE, I MEAN, IT'S PROBABLY THE BEST USE OF A TID DISTRICT BECAUSE OF THE FACT THAT IT IS A BROWNFIELD SLATE.
UH, YOU KNOW, AND, AND YOU'RE GONNA PUT IT BACK IN THE TAX ROLLS 'CAUSE IT'S DOING NOTHING NOW.
UM, WHERE EXACTLY IS THIS SITE LOCATED? THIS IS JUST SOUTH OF DOWNTOWN, UH, WEST BEND.
UM, DO YOU KNOW WHERE THERE'S THE, THE SCHOOL? I THINK IT'S A MIDDLE SCHOOL.
UM, IT'S NOW
BUT IF YOU, IT'S RIGHT ON THE EISEN BOND.
YEAH, IT'S RIGHT OFF OF THE IS AND BY.
IT'S, SO THAT'S NORTH OF DECORA R YEAH, IT'S A UNIQUE SITE.
IT'S KIND OF IN, IT'S, IT'S LOWER IN A, IN AN ELEVATION THAN THE, THE SURROUNDING HOUSES.
SO, AND IT'S SURROUNDED BY KIND OF TREES, SO IT'S A LITTLE BIT HIDDEN.
YOU ONLY KIND OF GET LIKE THE FRONT OF THE SITE IF YOU GO DOWN OAK STREET.
UM, I WAS GONNA SAY, IT'S, UM, THE, UM, IT'S BOARDED ON THE EISEN BOND ON THE EAST AND ON THE NORTH AND WEST.
IT'S, UM, JUST RESIDENTIAL SUBDIVISION.
UM, SO IT REALLY DOES MAKE, UM, SENSE TO HAVE THAT, UH, REDEVELOPED, UM, TO MATCH THE SURROUNDING AREA AND HAVE ACCESS TO THE EISEN BOND.
BUT THAT'S CURRENTLY COMMERCIAL, RIGHT? UM, IT'S INDUSTRIAL.
SO THE CITY WILL HAVE TO CHANGE THAT BEFORE THEY MOVE ANYTHING.
JUST TRYING TO WRAP MY HEAD AROUND THE WHOLE THING.
OF COURSE, YOU KNOW, 'CAUSE OBVIOUSLY THERE'S GONNA BE A LOT OF MOVING PARTS IN THIS.
ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? IF NOT ALL IN FAVOR OF THE MOTION? SAY AYE.
ARE THERE ANY OPPOSED? THAT MOTION CARRIES.
ITEM THREE E GUIDANCE ON JOINT REVIEW PARTICIPATION, AND FOR THAT WE HAVE AARON DAHL.
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EVENING EVERYONE.UM, SO HERE, UH, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT, UM, ONE NEW, UH, TAX INCREMENTAL DISTRICT, AND, UH, THAT'S IN WEST BEND AND AMENDING, UH, TWO, UH, THAT ARE IN THE VILLAGE OF SLINGER.
UM, I'LL START WITH WEST BEND AND I'LL, I'LL GO IN THE ORDER, UM, THAT THEY'RE, THAT THEY'RE PUT INTO THE PACKET.
SO, UH, WEST BEND IS PRO PROPOSING TO CREATE, UH, TID NUMBER 18.
UM, THAT'S ON THE SOUTH SIDE OF TOWN, UH, ALONG RUSKO ROAD, BASICALLY BETWEEN RIVER ROAD AND, UH, COUNTY HIGHWAY P, SOUTH MAIN STREET.
UM, IT'S A, A MI MIXED USE TID.
UM, CURRENTLY 315 RESIDENTIAL UNITS AND SEVERAL INDUSTRIAL SITES.
UM, I THINK ABOUT 860,000 SQUARE FEET IN THE PROJECT PLAN AT LEAST.
UM, THE PROJECT PLAN IS, IS LISTING COSTS FOR INFRASTRUCTURE AND INCENTIVES.
UM, THE INFRASTRUCTURE PIECE IS MOSTLY RUSKO ROAD, UM, TO SUPPORT THAT KIND OF DEVELOPMENT.
UH, THE ROAD WOULD NEED TO BE RECONSTRUCTED.
UH, THEY'RE ALSO TALKING ABOUT, UH, ROUNDABOUTS ON EITHER END.
UM, ONE OF THOSE WOULD BE FUNDED THROUGH THE TID.
THE OTHER ONE IT IS, UH, THE ONE ON P WOULD BE, UH, A COUNTY CONTROLLED.
UM, SO, UM, MY UNDERSTANDING IS, IS THEY WERE ALREADY KIND OF GENERICALLY DISCUSSING, UM, THE POSSIBILITY OF A ROUNDABOUT THERE.
UM, SO, UH, WE WOULD KIND OF CONTINUE, UH, WITH THAT PROCESS AND WITH THOSE DISCUSSIONS.
UM, THE RESIDENTIAL COMPONENT BEING PROPOSED HERE IS, UM, NEXT GENERATION HOUSING.
UM, SO, UH, DEB AND, AND, AND CHRISTIAN, UH, FROM THE EDWC HAVE BEEN ENGAGED WITH, WITH THE CITY ON THIS.
UM, SHE, SHE, UH, NOTED THAT SHE COULD HELP SHARE WHATEVER, UM, INFORMATION OR, OR ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU MIGHT HAVE ON THE NGH PIECE.
UM, I THINK IN TERMS OF, OF OUR, OUR, FROM OUR STANDPOINT ON THE JOINT REVIEW BOARD, UM, THOSE, THOSE INFRASTRUCTURE COMPONENTS, UM, THE ONE, THERE ARE SOME, THOSE THAT ARE CALLED, THOSE HALF MILE PROJECTS.
IF YOU REMEMBER, WE'VE, WE'VE BEEN SENSITIVE ABOUT THOSE IN THE PAST.
THE CITY IS PROPOSING A COST SHARE HERE.
UM, THE LAST TIME THEY PROPOSED A COST SHARE, WE WERE OKAY WITH THAT AS WELL.
BASICALLY, THE CITY WOULD FUND A PORTION OF, OF THAT INFRASTRUCTURE AND THE DIS THE, THE TAX INCREMENTAL DISTRICT WOULD SUPPORT, UH, A PORTION AS WELL.
SO, UM, THE CITY RECOGNIZES THAT THEY'RE GETTING SOME BENEFIT OUT OF THIS TOO, AND THEY'RE PONYING UP THE MONEY TO PAY FOR SOME OF IT, WHICH, UM, I, I THINK IN THE PAST HAS MITIGATED OUR CONCERNS, UH, IN THAT REGARD.
UM, SO, UM, I THINK, I THINK ANOTHER THING TO NOTE HERE IS, IS IF THIS DIS DISTRICT IS CREATED, UM, THE CITY WILL, UM, BE WHAT'S CALLED, UH, TIFFED OUT, MEANING, UM, THEY WON'T BE ABLE TO CREATE ANOTHER DISTRICT UNTIL THEY CLOSE ONE.
UM, SO THAT'S, THAT'S NOT A BAD THING.
AND, AND THE CITY'S FINE WITH THAT.
THEY SEEM TOTALLY FINE WITH THAT.
AND THERE ARE A COUPLE, UM, THAT ARE SORT OF ON SCHEDULE TO CLOSE IN THE NEXT COUPLE OF YEARS.
SO, UM, WE'LL LOOK FORWARD TO THAT AS WELL.
UM, I THINK SO, SO OVERALL, UM, LIKE I SAID, DEB IS HERE TO, TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MIGHT HAVE ON THE NGH SIDE IF YOU'VE GOT ANY.
BUT, UM, NOT A, NOT A TON OF CONCERNS HERE FROM, FROM MY PERSPECTIVE.
UM, GIVEN SOME OF THE FOLKS THAT ARE ENGAGED ON THIS PROJECT ALREADY, UM, YOU KNOW, WE'VE GOT SOME ASSURANCES THAT THE, THE BEST PRACTICES IN REGARDS TO DUE DILIGENCE AND THINGS LIKE THAT, THAT WE USUALLY LIKE TO SEE WILL BE FOLLOWED.
UM, AND SO, UM, NOT A TON OF NO REAL CONCERNS TO REPORT, UM, BUT I'D BE OPEN TO ANY QUESTIONS, UH, OR ANY FEEDBACK OR GUIDANCE SUPERVISOR KELLY.
UM, AARON, SO I READ THROUGH THIS STUFF AND UM, OBVIOUSLY A PRETTY LARGE, UH, RESIDENTIAL COMPONENT TO THIS.
UH, IF THIS WERE BUILT OUT, AND I, AND I STRONGLY BELIEVE IT PROBABLY WOULD BE, UM, WOULD THAT BE ABLE TO COVER AND PAY THE T OFF IF THE INDUSTRIAL COMPONENT DOESN'T FOLLOW THROUGH? 'CAUSE I REALLY HAVE MY DOUBTS ABOUT THE INDUSTRIAL PORTION OF THIS.
'CAUSE IT'S NOT A GREAT PLACE.
I MEAN, I KNOW THERE IS SOME INDUSTRY OVER THERE, BUT CURRENTLY I DON'T SEE THIS AS A, AS AN EXTREMELY VIABLE AREA FOR ACCESS AS FAR AS, UH, GETTING ON AND OFF THE FREEWAY AND THE TYPES OF THINGS THAT HEAVY
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INDUSTRY LOOKS FOR.IT COULD TAKE A WHILE TO SELL ON THIS, AND I'M CONCERNED THAT THE T DISTRICT IS ALSO FINANCED OUT 19 OF ITS 20 YEARS, WHICH GIVES YOU KIND OF A SLIM LINE THERE.
I JUST DON'T WANNA SEE MY CITY, THE CITY THAT I LIVE IN, LEFT HOLDING THE BAG ON A UNPAID OR UPSIDE DOWN TID.
UM, I'M NOT SURE IF, IF, DEB, ARE YOU ABLE TO SPEAK TO THE SUSTAINABILITY OF THE RESIDENTIAL PIECE? UM, SO I'VE BEEN MAINLY INVOLVED IN THE NEXT GEN HOUSING COMPONENT OF THIS, BUT IN THE DISCUSSIONS THAT I'VE HAD, UM, WITH THE CITY, UM, IT SOUNDS LIKE THE INDUSTRIAL, UM, THAT IS PROPOSED THERE ACTUALLY NEEDS RAIL ACCESS.
SO IT'S AN IDEAL LOCATION FOR THE RAIL ACCESS, UM, BECAUSE IT'S, IT'S RIGHT THERE IF YOU KNOW, THE END OF THE EISEN BOND IS RIGHT ON RUSKO, AND THAT'S THE END OF THE, THE RAIL LINE TOO.
SO, UM, BUT IN TERMS OF THE, UM, NEXT GEN HOUSING COMPONENT, YEAH, THEY'RE, UM, PROPOSING 315 UNITS.
UM, WE HAVE NOT GOTTEN, UM, SPECIFICS OR AN APPLICATION FROM THEM.
THEY ARE STILL WORKING THROUGH, UM, THE DESIGN COMPONENT, UM, AND THE LAYOUT AND THE PHASING OF THAT.
UM, AND ONCE I DO GET ALL THAT INFORMATION, THEN I'LL BE BRINGING THAT FORWARD TO THIS COMMITTEE FOR REVIEW AND APPROVAL.
SO AARON, I MEAN, I, I, THOSE ARE MY CONCERNS.
SO WHEN YOU'RE AT YOUR JOINT REVIEW, UM, YOU KNOW, PLEASE KEEP THOSE TYPES OF THINGS IN MY MIND.
I, I'M, I REALIZE I DON'T REPRESENT THE WEST BEND, BUT I DO MM-HMM
I MEAN, I'M, I'M ONE OF THE SUPERVISORS THAT ACTUALLY HIS DISTRICT IS WEST BEND AND, UH, I HAVE CONCERNS ABOUT THESE TIG DISTRICTS AND OVEREXTENDING, UH, ALL THESE TED DISTRICTS AND, AND I'VE MADE THAT KNOWN ACROSS THE CITY AS WELL.
SO, UM, AND, AND YOU KNOW, I JUST DON'T WANT TO SEE THEM HOLDING THE BAG.
I, I APPRECIATE THE FEEDBACK AND I'LL MAKE SURE THAT I, AND ASK QUESTIONS AND GET CLARITY TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE ALL COMFORTABLE THERE.
UM, JUST TO CONFIRM FROM WHAT I SEE HERE, THESE ARE ALL, UH, NEXTGEN, UM, OWNER OCCUPIED.
THERE ISN'T GOING TO BE ANY RENTAL UNITS.
CORRECT? 'CAUSE HE SAID MIXED USE.
I, MY MIND GOES, YOU KNOW, TO A LITTLE BIT OF EVERYTHING
AND SO I WAS JUST CURIOUS IF IT WAS, UH, DEFINITELY JUST ALL OWNER OCCUPIED.
UM, AND THERE'LL BE, UM, A COMBINATION OF SINGLE FAMILY, UM, RANCH, DUPLEX AND TOWN HOME.
SO, AND THE ONE THING I ALSO WANTED TO, UM, POINT OUT TOO WITH THE, UM, ONE OF THE, THE DISCUSSIONS THAT, UM, AS AARON MENTIONED, WE'RE WORKING WITH THE CITY AND EDWC, UM, FOR NEXT GEN HOUSING COMPONENT, WE'RE ACTUALLY LOOKING AT THE TID PAYING BACK THE 20,000 PER OWNER OCCUPIED OVER THE COURSE OF 20 YEARS, WHICH IS A VERY SIMILAR SITUATION, AN EXAMPLE THAT WE HAD WITH REGAL PLACE UP IN SCOM.
UM, ANYONE ELSE BEFORE I GO? JUST REAL QUICK QUESTION, SUPERVISOR CHADRON.
UM, AND I REMEMBER HEARING THIS FROM WHEN I WAS AT THE TOWN OF WEST BEND.
SO THEY JUST ANNEXED THIS, RIGHT? OR WAS THAT DONE A WHILE? A LITTLE WHILE AGO.
'CAUSE I THOUGHT THE TOWN OF WEST BEND SAID THAT CITIES BUYING UP MORE OF THEIR LAND.
THEY, THEY DID ANNEX A PORTION, UM, ON THE, THE EASTERN PORTION OF THAT.
UM, AND IT WAS, I'M, I'M NOT EXACTLY SURE THE TIMING OF IT, BUT IT WAS RECENTLY ENOUGH WHERE THE TID HAS TO, TO PAY THE TOWN, UM, THE, THE TAXES, THE LOST TAXES ON THAT, ON THAT.
I THINK I READ LIKE THERE'S ANOTHER YEAR.
AND THEN IF NO ONE ELSE HAS ANY COMMENTS, UM, FROM A FISCAL POINT OF VIEW, I THINK AS THE JOINT REVIEW BOARD LOOKS AT THIS, IT, IT THERE, I DON'T THINK THERE'S ANY REASON TO OBJECT TO IT.
WHAT I'M STRUGGLING, STRUGGLING WITH IN MY OWN MIND IS AS WE LOOK AT WASHINGTON COUNTY AND TRY TO PRESERVE FARMLAND, ON THE ONE HAND, UM, IT SEEMS LIKE WE'RE SAYING, WELL, LET'S, LET'S USE FARMLAND FOR INDUSTRIAL DEVELOPMENT ON THE OTHER.
AND I'M TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHERE OUR, OUR PRINCIPLES REALLY LIE.
SO I CAN'T OPPOSE IT FROM A FISCAL POINT OF VIEW, BUT I STILL WONDER, SHOULD, SHOULD WE, SHOULD WE BE EXPENDING THE AMOUNTS WE ARE FOR FARMLAND PRESERVATION IF WE'RE GONNA TURN A BLIND EYE TO THIS SORT OF THING? UM, AND I, AND I THINK THAT'S SOMETHING WE NEED TO LOOK AT IN THE FUTURE.
SUPERVISOR CHADRON, IF I CAN ADD TO THAT COMMENT, I DON'T KNOW HOW WE CAN CONTROL MUCH OF THIS, RIGHT? OTHER THAN THE PUBLIC MONEY PART, BECAUSE A LOT OF FARMERS ARE SUBDIVIDING ANYWAY WHEN THEY WANT TO RETIRE, RIGHT? SO UNFORTUNATELY THAT'S A DIFFICULT BATTLE.
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SUPERVISOR KEL, UM, AND, AND I WOULD SAY OBVIOUSLY I'M NOT CHAIRMAN OF LAND USE AND PLANNING, SO FARMLAND PRESERVATION, SOMETHING BIG THAT I'VE BEEN DOING.UM, BUT YOU HAVE TO KEEP A COUPLE OF THINGS IN MIND THAT ONE, THIS IS KIND OF WITHIN THE CITY LIMITS AS IT IS ALREADY.
UM, AND TWO, IT'S, IT'S NOT REALLY LIKE A WATERSHED OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT EITHER.
SO A LOT OF THE FARMLAND THAT WE'RE LOOKING TO, UH, PROTECT ARE USUALLY LAKE AND STREAM WATERSHED PROPERTIES, WHEREAS THIS ONE IS PRETTY MUCH IN AN INDUSTRIAL ZONE.
IT IS IN OUR 2050 PLAN AS, AS KIND OF BEING IN THAT AREA.
I MEAN, THIS WHOLE T DOES ACTUALLY FOLLOW, UH, LARGELY WHAT OUR 2050 PLAN IS.
SO, UM, I DON'T THINK IT, IT'S, I MEAN, THERE'S THE UNDENIABLE, UNDENIABLE FACT IS THAT THAT FARMLAND, SOME OF IT WITHIN THE MORE SUBURBAN OR URBAN AREAS SUCH AS WEST BEND, IS LIKELY TO TO BE SOLD AND, AND CONVERTED TO RESIDENTIAL WITH OUR CURRENT NEEDS.
UM, BUT SO LONG AS THAT WE'RE PRESERVING THOSE WATERSHEDS AND STREAM AREAS, I THINK THAT'S PROBABLY MORE WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO.
THANKS FOR THAT CLARIFICATION, MS. ILKE.
I ALSO WANTED TO POINT OUT TOO, UM, JUST TO PIGGY BACK ON YOUR COMMENT, UM, IS THE FACT THERE'S ALREADY EXISTING MANUFACTURING TO THE EAST YES.
AND SO IT, IT, IT DOES KIND OF MAKE SENSE TO HAVE, UM, THAT BLEND IN WITH ADDITIONAL, UM, MANUFACTURING INDUSTRIAL, UM, TO THE NORTH, THAT ONE PARCEL.
ANYTHING ELSE ON THIS ITEM BEFORE WE LOOK AT SLINGER SITUATIONS? I'M GOOD.
UM, SO WITH SLINGER, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT, UM, MAINLY TID NUMBER EIGHT AND NUMBER FOUR.
UM, WE'LL START WITH NUMBER EIGHT, BUT, BUT THEY ARE, UM, THEY ARE, UH, THEY DO, THEY DO TOUCH EACH OTHER.
UM, SO, UH, WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT IS BASICALLY HIGHWAY 60 GOING EAST, WEST AND THEN HIGHWAY 41, KIND OF, KIND OF NORTH SOUTH, A LITTLE BIT OUT OF AN ANGLE.
UM, BUT GENERALLY SPEAKING, UM, TID NUMBER EIGHT IS IN THE SOUTHWEST CORNER OF THAT INTERSECTION.
UM, BASICALLY WHAT'S HAPPENING WITH BOTH OF THESE AMENDMENTS THERE, THERE ARE SOME JUST KIND OF TECHNICAL CHANGES THAT THEY'RE LOOKING TO MAKE IN ORDER TO BASICALLY MAKE THE FINANCING WORK FOR SOME DEVELOPMENT PROJECTS.
UM, TID NUMBER EIGHT, THE AMENDMENT THERE, THEY'RE REALLY JUST LOOKING TO, UM, B BASICALLY JUST TO SHIFT PAR SOME PARCELS FROM TID NUMBER FOUR INTO TID NUMBER EIGHT.
THAT BASICALLY ALLOWS THOSE PARCELS TO HAVE A, A LONGER LIFE.
UM, MEANING THEY CAN DELIVER THE INCENTIVE THEY NEED TO ACCOMPLISH THIS DEVELOPMENT AND SPREAD IT OVER MORE YEARS.
UM, SO THE ANNUAL IMPACT IS LESS.
GOOD QUESTION, SUPERVISOR KELLY.
ARE THEY UNDERWATER ON THIS, THESE PARCELS? THAT WOULD BE MY QUESTION.
'CAUSE I'VE SEEN THIS DONE WITH PREVIOUS TID THAT WERE UNDER WATER AND THEN THEY ROLLED THEM OVER AND EXTENDED THEM INTO TID DISHES.
UM, I FIND THAT OFFENSIVE, SO IT, I I DO TOO.
UH, IN THIS CASE, I DO NOT BELIEVE THAT'S THE CASE.
WE, WE ACTUALLY, UM, THE COUNTY EXECUTIVE AND I HAD A CHANCE TO MEET WITH, WITH, UM, THE VILLAGE PRESIDENT AND THE VILLAGE ADMINISTRATOR IN SLINGER.
UM, THE MEETING, UH, ON THIS ACTUALLY THE FIRST JOINT REVIEW BOARD MEETING ON THIS WAS JUST THIS AFTERNOON.
UM, AND SO WE HEARD, WE HEARD FROM THEM WHERE, WHERE IT'S, IT'S NOT UNDERWATER.
THEY ARE, UM, IT WOULD, THIS ACTUALLY REDUCES THE OVERALL LIFE IF THINGS GET DEVELOPED THE WAY THEY'RE, THEY'RE SUPPOSED TO.
BY, BY MOVING THESE, UH, DISTRICTS OR THESE PARCELS INTO THIS DISTRICT, ALLOWS THEM TO EXTEND THE LIFE ANNUAL IMPACT IS LESS, MORE INCREMENT COMES IN TO HELP CLOSE OUT THE DISTRICT FASTER.
UM, SO, SO IN THIS CASE, NO, UH, IT IS NOT.
ANYTHING ELSE ON THIS AREA? UM, NO, NO, NO REAL CONCERNS HERE AT ALL.
SO ANYONE ELSE? NO, I'M GOOD, THANK YOU.
SO THEY'RE LOOKING TO AMEND NUMBER FOUR BASICALLY TO MAKE IT ELIGIBLE TO BE A DONOR DISTRICT.
UM, THEY WANT TO, UH, BASICALLY TO TID NUMBER FOUR IS A VERY BIG SUCCESS.
TID NUMBER SIX, UH, SITS IN THEIR DOWNTOWN TID SIX IS NOT IN DISTRESS.
IT IS, IT WOULD, IT WOULD CLOSE UNDER, UNDER A NORMAL TIMELINE.
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INCREMENT BY ANY MEANS.THERE'S A, A DEVELOPMENT, THERE'S A, THERE'S AN, IN THE DOWNTOWN OF SLINGER, I'M NOT SURE HOW FAMILIAR YOU ARE WITH IT, BUT THERE'S A FUNERAL HOME THAT THEY'VE BEEN, THAT'S BEEN CLOSED.
THEY'VE BEEN TRYING TO, TRYING TO GET THAT THING DEVELOPED FOR THE BETTER PART OF A DECADE, I THINK MORE THAN A DECADE NOW.
UM, AND, AND THEY'RE FINALLY BEEN PRESENTED WITH, WITH AN OPPORTUNITY TO DO SO.
UM, BUT TID NUMBER, IT, IT SITS IN TID NUMBER SIX.
TID NUMBER SIX DOES NOT HAVE THE ABILITY TO SUPPORT THE KIND OF INCENTIVE THAT'S NEEDED TO DEVELOP THAT.
SO INSTEAD THEY WANT TO TAKE SOME OF THE, THE DOLLARS AVAILABLE IN FOUR, SHIFTED OVER TO SIX TO BE ABLE TO PROVIDE THAT INCENTIVE AND TO GET THAT, THAT, UH, PIECE OF PROPERTY DEVELOPED.
UM, THE, UM, LET ME JUST MAKE SURE I'M, I'M READING, REFLECTING ALL OF MY NOTES HERE, BUT, UM, SO, AND, AND, AND SO THE INCENTIVE PIECE IS SOMETHING THAT, THAT WE AND THE JOINT REVIEW BOARD HAD FOCUSED ON, RIGHT? UM, THE, THE LEVEL OF INCENTIVE YOU, YOU ALWAYS WANNA MAKE SURE YOU'RE NOT OVER ENRICHING, RIGHT? THESE DEVELOPERS.
UM, AND SO THE DIS THE INCENTIVE THAT THEY'VE IDENTIFIED HERE IS, UH, BASICALLY 11.5%, UM, OF, OF THE, OF THE COST, WHICH WHAT WE'RE USED TO SEEING IN THE MARKET HERE FOR PROJECTS LIKE THIS IS SOMEWHERE BETWEEN 10 AND 15.
SO, UH, RIGHT IN LINE, UM, I, I THINK THE DEVELOPMENT HERE THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT, THERE'S, THERE'S SOME COMMERCIAL SPACE.
UH, THERE ARE SOME APARTMENTS, THERE ARE SOME TOWN HOMES.
I THINK WE'RE TALKING LIKE 39 TOTAL UNITS, BUT LIKE 30 APARTMENTS, NINE TOWN HOMES, AND THEN SOME COMMERCIAL SPACE ON THE FIRST FLOOR OF THE APARTMENT, UH, DWELLING.
IT, IT, IT IS ALSO SET TO IMPROVE THE PARKING IN THE DOWNTOWN AREA.
A LOT OF THAT PARKING FOR THOSE NEW, UH, BUILDINGS WILL BE DOWN, UH, BELOW THOSE BUILDINGS THEMSELVES.
SO, UM, IT'LL ALSO CREATE A FEW NEW PARKING SPOTS.
SO, UM, AN AN ANOTHER IMPROVEMENT FOR THE DOWNTOWN IN SLINGER.
UM, SO I, I THINK IN THIS CASE, IT, IT'S STRETCHING THE LIFE OF A, OF A DISTRICT SLIGHTLY.
UM, THERE, FROM MY PERSPECTIVE, UH, THE, THE, THE, NOT A, NOT A TON OF FINANCIAL CONCERNS.
UM, OVERALL, I THINK WHILE IT IS STRETCHING THE LIFE A LITTLE BIT, UM, TO, TO HELP, UH, MUNICIPALITIES SOLVE THESE LONGSTANDING, UM, DOWNTOWN DEVELOPMENT TYPE PROBLEMS, UM, I THINK IS, IS, UM, IT'S, IT'S A GOOD OPPORTUNITY.
SO SUPERVISOR SHARIN, IF I RECALL, I THINK THAT FUNERAL HOMES ALREADY BEEN DEMOLISHED, RIGHT? IT HAS BEEN DEMOLISHED.
I THINK IT'D BE TOUGH TO FIND SOMEBODY TO FIT IN THAT AREA AND THEN DO EVERYTHING WHAT YOU JUST SAID, RIGHT.
YOU WANT TO DO, BUT HOPEFULLY IT WORKS.
AND ALL WE CAN DO IS HELP 'EM OUT.
AND YOU BEING A MONEY GUY, I AM ASSUMING THAT YOU'RE COMFORTABLE WITH EVERYTHING THE WAY YOU SAID, RIGHT? THAT'S CORRECT.
SO I GUESS PETE, WITH THAT BEING SAID, I'M OKAY WITH IT TOO.
SO BASICALLY THIS IS LIKE A CREATIVE FINANCING.
YOU'RE USING SOME PROCEEDS FROM DISTRICT FOUR TO EXTENDED DISTRICT SIX IS, UH, SO IS THAT FUNERAL HOME PROPERTY, IS THAT WITHIN THE BOUNDARIES OF THE DISTRICT SIX? IT IS.
IT LIES IN DISTRICT SIX, SO, OKAY.
THEY DON'T HAVE TO DO ANY, ANY CHANGES THERE OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT? CORRECT.
THEN THEY DON'T HAVE TO AMEND DISTRICT SIX.
IT, IT ALREADY SITS WHERE IT IS.
THEY ACTUALLY, THEY'RE AMENDING FOUR TO MAKE IT A DONOR SO THEY CAN SLIDE THE MONEY OVER TO SIX.
MOVING ON TO DISCUSSION ITEM THREE F PAY INCREASE FOR THE COUNTY BOARD.
THIS IS A DISCUSSION ITEM ONLY, UM, CHAIRMAN SLE PUT TOGETHER SOME INTERESTING INFORMATION.
UM, MY COMMENTS TO, TO KICK IT OFF WOULD BE THESE, IF WE WERE TO LOOK AT HOW MUCH INFLATION HAS CHANGED SINCE THE LAST TIME THE COUNTY BOARD SALARY WAS CHANGED IN, UH, AS I UNDERSTAND STAND IN 1999 WHEN IT WAS $550 TO, AND, AND ASSUMING IT WAS APRIL OF THAT YEAR, AND ASSUMING THAT IT'S APRIL OF, OF 2025, IF THE COUNTY BOARD HAD SALARY HAD BEEN KEPT IN LINE WITH INFLATION, THE MONTHLY SALARY WOULD NOW BE JUST OVER $1,060 PER MONTH.
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NOW I DON'T THINK ANYBODY'S GOT A STOMACH TO, TO GO THAT FAR, BUT BY THE SAME TOKEN, I DON'T THINK ANYBODY ELSE WOULD BE WILLING TO PUT UP WITH, WITH NOTHING OVER THAT TIME EITHER.UM, SO AS WE CONSIDER THIS, IT'S MY OPINION THAT THE COUNTY BOARD SUPERVISORS DO PROVIDE A VALUABLE SERVICE TO THE CITIZENS OF WASHINGTON COUNTY TO THE CONSTITUENTS OF WASHINGTON COUNTY.
IT'S ALSO MY OPINION THAT EVEN PEOPLE WHO RECEIVE GOVERNMENT FUNDS, WHO DO ABSOLUTELY NOTHING THAT BENEFITS THEIR FELLOW CITIZENS RE RECEIVE PERIODIC INCREASES.
AND SO IT WOULD MAKE SENSE TO ME THAT ON THE INTEREST OF, IN THE INTEREST OF FAIRNESS ALONE, THAT THERE'D BE SOME KIND OF INCREASE.
AND IT WOULD ALSO MAKE SENSE TO ME THAT IN THE FUTURE, AS A BUDGET IS CONSIDERED, WE PERHAPS LOOK TO THE APRIL INFLATION RATE OF EACH YEAR AND PERHAPS MAKE AN INCREASE IN INCREMENTS, NOT LESS THAN $60.
THAT WOULD BE $5 A MONTH THAT, THAT WOULD MAKE SENSE TO MOVE FORWARD.
UM, IT WOULD BE A SUITABLE TIME FOR REVIEW IF WE DID THAT IN, IN APRIL OF, OF EACH BUDGET YEAR.
UM, AND IN MY MIND THAT THAT SORT OF THING JUST MAKES SENSE THERE.
NOW I'VE, I'VE KICKED THAT OFF A LITTLE BIT.
ANY OTHER COMMENTS, QUESTIONS, CONCERNS, SUPERVISOR SHARIN, THANK YOU.
UM, SO YES, I REVIEWED THIS TOO AND I, I, I TALKED TOLE UM, SUPERVISOR SCH A LITTLE BIT ON THIS TOO.
MY FIRST THOUGHT WAS, YEAH, IF IT'S BEEN 20 YEARS, MAYBE WE SHOULD CONSIDER IT.
BUT THEN WHEN I LOOK AT THE COMPARABLE COUNTIES AND STUFF, IT, IT STILL SEEMS LIKE WE'RE PRETTY MUCH IN LINE WITH A LOT OF THE OTHER COUNTIES NOW AT THAT BEING SAID, THEY COULD BE BEHIND AS WELL.
RIGHT? UM, I, I'M NOT SURE HOW THEY, THEY HAVE COMPARABLE COUNTIES.
THEY GOT DANE COUNTY IN THERE AND I'M NOT SURE
UM, BUT UH, I GUESS IF WE LOOK AT GOING DOWN THIS ROAD, YEAH, WE'D HAVE TO PICK ONE OR THE OTHER.
EITHER DO ONE, ONE INCREASE TO HOLD US OVER FOR THE NEXT SAY 10 YEARS, OR I'M NOT SO SURE IF I LIKE THE YEARLY THING.
'CAUSE THAT ALMOST SEEMS LIKE THE PEOPLE ALWAYS SAY THAT'S A BAD WAY OF DOING THINGS.
BECAUSE THEN YOU VOTE ONCE AND IT'S, IT'S A CONSTANT PAY RAISE.
SO I, I'M KIND OF TORN ON THIS TO BE HONEST, AND THAT THAT'S KIND OF WHERE I SIT ON IT.
UM, SO I TOTALLY, UM, UNDERSTAND AND AGREE WITH WHAT YOU'VE SAID AND THANKS FOR PUTTING THE MATH TOGETHER ABOUT THE WHAT IT, WHAT IT WOULD BE AT AND PUTTING KIND OF A REALITY CHECK MARK THERE.
UM, I AM A LITTLE CONCERNED THAT IS THIS THE RIGHT TIME? OBVIOUSLY I THINK IT WAS 20, 26 YEARS THAT WE HAVEN'T, UM, TAKEN A RAISE.
UM, BUT, UM, CONSIDERING WASHINGTON COUNTY AND THE STAFF AND WHAT MAY OCCUR WITH THE BUDGET, UM, I AM CONCERNED THAT THIS MIGHT NOT BE A GOOD TIME.
WHAT, WHAT DOES THAT LOOK LIKE? YOU KNOW, IF, IF THERE ARE POSITIONS THAT ARE CUT OR THINGS THAT HAPPEN AT THE STAFF LEVEL AND, BUT THE COUNTY BOARD SUPERVISORS GOT A RAISE, UM, IT'S ALSO IT SERVANT ROLE.
UM, I THINK ANYONE WHO COMES ON BOARD AS A SUPERVISOR SEES IT AT LEAST SOMEWHAT LIKE THAT.
I KNOW I TAKE IT THAT WAY THAT I'M HERE GIVING BACK AND SERVING MY CONSTITUENTS AND WASHINGTON COUNTY.
OH, YOU BETCHA YOU GET READY 'CAUSE I'M READY TO COOK.
UM, OKAY, LET'S LOOK AT THE FACTS OF THIS WHOLE THING.
FIRST OF ALL, THE INFORMATION THAT WAS PROVIDED BY, UH, CHAIRMAN SCH LIFE DEAD ACCURATE.
IT'S RIGHT ON 26 YEARS AGO, I STARTED THE JOB I WORK IN NOW I MAKE 107% OF WHAT I MADE WHEN I STARTED WITHOUT CHANGING MY JOB TITLE OR GETTING A PROMOTION.
SO, YOU KNOW, WHEN YOU CONSIDER THAT,
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UH, YOU KNOW, 26 YEARS, WE HAVEN'T DONE ANY KIND OF, UH, OF RAISE.AND IN FACT, REMEMBER WE CUT THE COUNTY BOARD FROM 30 DOWN TO 26, THEN DOWN TO 21.
SO, AND WE ALSO ELIMINATED THE HEALTHCARE AND ALL THE REST OF THAT STUFF.
WE'VE ACTUALLY SHRUNK PAYROLL, UH, QUITE A BIT FROM EVEN THE LAST TIME THAT IT WAS THERE WAS EVEN A RAISE.
UM, AND DURING THAT TIME WE DID GIVE RAISES TO ALL THE CONSTITUTIONAL OFFICERS.
SO THE SHERIFF GOT A RAISE, THE EXECUTIVE GOT A RAISE, THE TREASURER GOT A RAISE, THE REGISTER OF DEEDS GOT A RAISE.
THE, THE COUNTY CLERK GOT A RAISE, THE CLERK OF COURTS GOT RAISE.
ALL THOSE PEOPLE DID IN FACT GET RAISES, AND YET WE DID NOT BOTHER TO TAKE ONE.
I DID ROUGH NUMBERS AND THESE ARE VERY ROUGH.
THEY'RE NOT ACCURATE BY ANY MEANS.
BUT WHEN YOU CONSIDER THE OVERALL BUDGET FOR THE COUNTY AND WHAT THIS RAISE HAS KIND OF PRODUCED HERE, UH, KICKING UP THE REGULAR PAY AND MAYBE ANOTHER $50 FOR COMMITTEE MEMBERS OR COMMITTEE, UH, CHAIRS, UH, YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT 0.0097% OF THE BUDGET.
SO 97 1000TH OF THE BUDGET OVERALL, WE'RE TALKING AT BEST, IT'S NOT EVEN A ROUNDING ERROR.
AND I'M SURE, UH, MINISTER AL CAN CERTAINLY APPRECIATE THAT.
IT IS, IN FACT YOU'RE TALKING A TOTAL OF WHAT, 15, $16,000 MAYBE.
I MEAN, THAT'S NOT A ONE CONSTITUTIONAL OFFICER IN THE LAST EIGHT YEARS OR 10 YEARS THAT I'VE SERVED ON THE BOARD HAS PROBABLY MADE MORE THAN THAT IN JUST THEIR RAISE ALONE.
YOU KNOW, I I I HAVE BEEN AND, AND, AND, AND I WOULD SUGGEST IT SHOULD BE A BI-ANNUALLY.
IF YOU'RE GONNA DO A 1% OR TIED TO INFLATION, UM, I, I WOULD SUGGEST THAT IT, IT COINCIDES WITH THE NEW COUNTY BOARD, UM, AND DONE BI-ANNUALLY.
UM, AND AGAIN, GOING ON CURRENT RATES OF INFLATION, YOU'RE TALKING ONE AND A HALF TO 1.75%.
MR. DAHL, WOULD THAT BE PRETTY ACCURATE? UM, LATELY A LITTLE, NO.
NOT THROWING OUT THE HIGH WATER OF THE BIDEN ERA.
UH, YOU KNOW, AND THE COVID AND ALL THE REST OF THAT.
GENERALLY SPEAKING, IN THE LAST 30 TO 40 YEARS, WE'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT 1.75%, UH, IN, IN TOTAL INFLATION.
UM, I'VE ALWAYS BEEN A PERSON WHO GOES OUT AND LOOKS FOR PEOPLE TO RUN FOR OFFICE.
THAT'S KIND OF ONE OF THE THINGS.
I'M, I'M A PERSON WHO SOLICITS PEOPLE TO RUN.
UM, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I'VE ALWAYS BEEN INVOLVED WITH AND TRIED TO DO IS FIND WORKING CLASS PEOPLE TO RUN.
UH, WHEN I GOT ON THIS BOARD, DAY ONE, I WAS ALL ABOUT THAT.
THANK YOU FOR ALL YOU DO FOR OUR COMMUNITY.
I LOVE OUR, OUR BUSINESS PROFESSIONALS.
THANK YOU FOR ALL YOU DO FOR OUR COMMUNITY.
AND THOSE PEOPLE CAN SERVE PRETTY MUCH AT WILL ON ANY OF THESE BOARDS AND COMMITTEES.
WORKING CLASS PEOPLE, HOWEVER, HAVE A MUCH MORE DIFFICULT TIME BECAUSE THEY HAVE TO TAKE TIME OFF THE WORK.
THEY HAVE TO USE VACATION DAYS, THEY HAVE TO DO THINGS.
AND, AND IT'S NOT ALWAYS THAT GOOD.
I MEAN, EXAMPLE, TONIGHT BOTH MIKE AND I WERE RUSHING BACK TRYING TO GET HERE IN TIME FOR THE MEETING.
IT WAS VERY STRESSFUL, VERY DIFFICULT TO DO.
UH, I WANT TO BE ABLE TO GET GOOD QUALITY WORKING CLASS PEOPLE BECAUSE THEY ARE THE LARGEST CONSTITUENCY THAT WE HAVE IN THIS COUNTY.
AND THEIR REPRESENTATION ON THIS BOARD IS EXTREMELY IMPORTANT.
I SERVED AS THE CHAIRMAN OF MOVING MEETINGS TO EVENINGS MEETING TIMES BACK WHEN IT WAS DONE EIGHT YEARS AGO.
AND WE GOT THAT DONE AND GOT THE MEETINGS MOVED FROM NINE IN THE MORNING TO SEVEN 30 IN THE MORNING, THEN EVENTUALLY TO WHERE THEY ARE NOW, SIX O'CLOCK IN THE EVENING SPECIFICALLY.
SO WORKING CLASS PEOPLE CAN REPRESENT.
AND, AND I, I AGREE A HUNDRED PERCENT WITH YOU.
THIS IS SERVICE TO OUR COMMUNITY, BUT THERE'S ALSO A COMPONENT THAT REQUIRES US TO RUN FOR OFFICE AND, UH, PAY MONEY.
AND, AND SOMETIMES THERE'S, YOU KNOW, WE'RE GONNA GET SIGNS.
WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO GO OUT THERE AND DO MEDIA SPENDS AND, AND DOOR KNOCKING AND ALL THE REST OF THAT STUFF.
AND, AND I REALLY WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE OPENING UP THE FIELD TO THE MAXIMUM AMOUNT OF PEOPLE THAT CAN, AND WE'RE NOT TALKING ABOUT GOING GONZO WITH HOW MUCH MONEY.
AGAIN, IT'S BARELY A ROUNDING ERROR IS WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT.
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WEST BEND, UH, JUST REDID THEIRS FOR ALL THE ALDERMEN AND THE MAYOR.AND WHILE THERE WAS THE USUAL GRIPING, WHICH YOU'D EX EXPECT, UH, A FEW OF THE PEOPLE I TALKED TO, THEY REACHED OUT TO ME ON WHETHER OR NOT THIS WAS A GOOD IDEA.
UM, AND, AND I SAID, WELL, YOU KNOW, IT'S GONNA LOOK BAD NO MATTER WHAT, BUT YOU HAVEN'T HAD A RAISE IN A GAZILLION YEARS.
YOU KNOW, YOU DON'T DO THIS FOR NOTHING.
YOU KNOW, YOU, YOU HAVE SKIN IN THE GAME ON THIS BOTH IN, IN YOUR COMMUNITY AND ALL THE REST OF THAT.
IS NOT THAT BAD TO FINALLY ASK FOR JUST A LITTLE SOMETHING BACK, YOU KNOW? SO I, I'M ALL ON BOARD WITH THIS.
UM, THERE'S A FEW THINGS I'D LIKE TO, I AGREE WITH, WITH THIS.
I'D LIKE TO SEE THE, UH, $50 FOR THE, UH, COMMITTEE HEADS.
UM, I WOULD LIKE TO SEE IT TIED TO THE BIANNUAL BUDGET AT ABOUT, YOU KNOW, WHAT INFLATION RATE IS.
AND I DON'T EVEN CARE IF IT'S A HALF A POINT UNDER INFLATION.
YOU KNOW, WE CAN, WE CAN WORK OUT SOME OF THOSE DETAILS.
UM, AND I THINK IMMEDIATELY, I FORGET WHAT IT CALLED FOR.
UM, IT DEFINITELY CALLED IT, THAT'S THE OTHER THING TOO.
UH, THIS IS VERY IMPORTANT TOO.
UM, WHEN IT COMES TO THE CHAIR, IT'S A PART-TIME JOB ALLEGEDLY.
BUT IF YOU LOOK AT THE LAST THREE TO FOUR CHAIRS, THEY'VE BEEN WORKING WELL OVER 40 HOURS A WEEK.
NOW, WHEN WE ALL GET TOGETHER, ALL 21 OF US, AND WE DECIDE AND WE PICK A CHAIR, DO WE WANT THE BEST PERSON OR THE PERSON THAT'S AVAILABLE? YOU KNOW, WE SHOULDN'T BE CHOOSING THE PERSON.
WELL, THEY DON'T ACTUALLY WORK FOR A LIVING, SO THEY HAVE THE ABILITY TO GO BE THE CHAIRMAN.
NO, YOU WANT THE BEST PERSON, THE PERSON THAT THE MOST PEOPLE HAVE THE MOST FAITH IN THAT HAS THE, THE BEST GIFT OF GAB AND THE MOST FIGHT IN THEM AND, AND WILLING TO TAKE A BOLD STANCE.
THOSE ARE THE PEOPLE WE WANT TO LOOK FOR WHAT YOU NEED.
IT'S, IT, IT'S, IT'S ALMOST IMPOSSIBLE.
IF YOU HAVE A JOB TO BE A CHAIRMAN, YOU, YOU CAN'T.
I MEAN, YOU, YOU'D BE LIMITED TO THE RETIREES AND THE PROFESSIONAL PEOPLE.
YOU KNOW, IT, IT WON'T ALLOW REGULAR WORKING CLASS PEOPLE TO BE THE CHAIR.
AND I, AND I THINK THAT'S A HUGE MISTAKE BECAUSE IT MIGHT JUST BE THE BEST IS GONNA GO UNABLE TO DO IT OR UNWILLING TO DO IT BECAUSE HE CAN'T GIVE UP OR HE CAN'T GIVE UP THE MONEY THAT THEY EARN ON THEIR REGULAR JOB.
AND THEN WHAT WE'RE GONNA SETTLE FOR WHO'S AVAILABLE RATHER THAN WHO'S THE BEST PERSON TO TAKE THE JOB.
SO EVEN AT THE CHAIR LEVEL, I SEE IT AS, AS A MODEST INCREASE.
UM, AND PERSONALLY, I, I DON'T THINK IT'S NECESSARILY ENOUGH OR, AND I ALSO THINK THEY SHOULD HAVE INSURANCE, UH, BECAUSE QUITE LITERALLY, EVEN IF THEY DON'T GET A SALARY INCREASE, I THINK BEING ON THE INSURANCE WOULD PROBABLY BE VERY HELPFUL FOR MAKING MORE PEOPLE THE POOL, IF YOU WILL, MORE POSSIBLE FOR THEM TO RUN FOR CHAIR.
I DON'T WANT TO LIMIT OUR OPTIONS FOR THE CHAIR.
I WANT TO INCREASE OUR OPTIONS FOR THE CHAIR.
YOU KNOW, AND I'VE CERTAINLY HAD DESIGNS ON IT.
EVERYBODY IN THIS ROOM KNOWS IT.
AND, AND I'M NOT GONNA SAY THAT I WOULDN'T IN THE FUTURE, BUT IT'S NOT NECESSARILY FOR ME BECAUSE THIS IS GOING FORWARD, WE NEED TO MAKE SURE WE'VE GOT THE BEST AVAILABLE PERSON.
SO THE BEST PERSON FOR THE JOB, NOT JUST SOMEBODY WHO HAS THE TIME TO PUT INTO IT.
GO AHEAD, MR. UH, SUPERVISOR SHOTTER.
UH, SO, SO AGAIN, I REITERATE, I'M NOT DOING THIS FOR THE MONEY EITHER, RIGHT? SO I'M NEUTRAL ON THIS, BUT IN THE INTEREST OF, OF THE BOARD AS A FULL, I WOULD LIKE TO SEE US, IF THAT'S A PROPOSAL YOU WOULD LIKE TO MAKE, ALLOW THE WHOLE BOARD TO REVIEW AND, AND MAKE A DECISION ON IT.
I'D BE WILLING TO LET IT GO THAT FAR BECAUSE I AM NEUTRAL.
YOU KNOW, I'M IN HERE TO DO IT, TO SERVE THE, THE, THE PEOPLE.
SO, BUT AGAIN, EVERYBODY'S IN A DIFFERENT POSITION HERE, RIGHT? YEAH.
WE ALL WORK FULL-TIME JOBS AND I AGREE TOTALLY.
WE ARE LIMITED TO WHO CAN BE CHAIR BECAUSE IT, THE HOURS THESE GUYS PUT IN IS UNBELIEVABLE.
AND IT, AND IT PROBABLY SHOULDN'T BE.
AND EXCUSE ME, I DON'T MEAN TO OVERSPEAK NO, THAT'S FINE.
BECAUSE IT'S BEEN, IT'S KIND OF BEEN A THORN IN MY SIDE.
IT'S LIKE, IT'S ALMOST LIKE WE CREATED
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A PART-TIME POSITION MM-HMMAND, AND, AND YOU THINK YOU'RE DOING A GOOD SERVICE 'CAUSE YOU'RE GIVING IT A FULL-TIME FREEBIE FOR A PART-TIME PAY.
THAT'S A GREAT DEAL FOR THE TAXPAYERS.
BUT IS IT REALLY, BECAUSE NOW MM-HMM
AGAIN, YOU MIGHT HAVE SOMEBODY WHO'S JUST A DYNAMO, RIGHT? AND ALL THE REST OF THAT, YOU KNOW, EITHER MAKE IT A FULL-TIME OR MAKE IT A PART-TIME.
TAKE SOME OF THE STUFF OFF OR MAKE IT AT LEAST A LITTLE BIT MORE POSSIBLE.
AND TO ADD TO THAT, I MEAN, LOOK AT WHAT WE'RE DOING WITH THE VOLUNTEER FIRE DEPARTMENTS AND STUFF TOO.
INCENTIVES HAVE TO GROW WITH IT OR PEOPLE JUST DON'T GET INTERESTED.
AND I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO HAVE, LIKE YOU SAID, THE BEST WE CAN HERE TO SERVE THE PEOPLE.
AND AGAIN, SO SMALL AMOUNT, IT'S A VERY MINUSCULE AMOUNT.
UM, THERE'S NEVER A GOOD TIME TO DO THIS BECAUSE IT ALWAYS LOOKS SELF-SERVING, RIGHT? BUT THE PRINCIPLE OF THE THING IS, UM, YES, IT IS A ROLE OF SERVICE AND IF ANYONE IS CONCERNED THAT THAT, UH, TAKING AN INCREASE IS LESS SERVICE, THEN PERHAPS THEY SHOULD FOCUS MORE ON WHAT THEY'RE DOING AS PART OF THAT SERVICE RATHER THAN THE AMOUNT.
IF YOU FEEL LIKE YOU'RE BEING PAID TOO MUCH, THEN DO A LITTLE MORE WORK A LITTLE HARDER, RIGHT? UM, AND THE OTHER THING IS, IN OUR SOCIETY, WHEN THINGS ARE GIVEN TOO EASILY OR TOO CHEAPLY, THEY AREN'T VALUED.
YOU LOOK AT FREE LUNCHES AT SCHOOLS, NOBODY APPRECIATES THAT.
WHEN YOU LOOK AT FREE MONEY THAT WAS HANDED OUT, YOU KNOW, AT, AT ANY SCALE REALLY AFTER A WHILE, IT'S KINDA LIKE, OKAY, THANKS.
WHEN YOU LOOK AT FREE PUBLIC EDUCATION, WHO CARES? AND THAT SOUNDS CRASS, BUT IN THE GRAND SCHEME OF THING, MOST, MOST PEOPLE IN OUR SOCIETY, IF IT'S FREE, THEY DON'T VALUE IT.
AND SO AS WE, AS WE LOOK AT OUR CONSTITUENTS AND, AND, OH, YOU GOT A BUNCH OF PEOPLE THAT'LL SURF FOR ALMOST NOTHING, GREAT, LET 'EM GO.
I THINK PART OF THE REASON THERE IS SUCH A DISDAIN FOR PUBLIC SERVANTS IN OUR SOCIETY IS BECAUSE THEY AREN'T SO HIGHLY VALUED AND BECAUSE THEY ARE SUCH GIVERS, WE ARE SUCH GIVERS THAT WE ALLOW PEOPLE TO, TO TAKE ADVANTAGE OF US.
THE LABORER IS WORTHY OF HIS HIRE.
AND IN THIS SITUATION TOO, WE NEED TO REMEMBER THAT.
ANY OTHER COMMENTS, QUESTIONS, SUPERVISOR SHARA? UM, AT THIS POINT, UM, CHAIRMAN SCHLEI AND I WILL WORK WITH, UM, COUNTY STAFF TO PUT FORTH A PROPOSAL FOR DISCUSSION BY THE FULL BOARD.
AND I, AND I JUST WOULD REITERATE AT THIS TIME, SPEAKING INTO THIS MICROPHONE THAT I SUPPORT THAT DISCUSSION AND, AND I DO BELIEVE IT IS TIME.
UH, LAST TIME I DID NOT SUPPORT IT.
WE HAD A LOT OF UNANSWERED QUESTIONS, BUT I THINK NOW IS THE TIME THAT WE START DOING AT LEAST A LITTLE SOMETHING, UH, BECAUSE I AM ON THE CAMPAIGN TRAIN TRAIL, TRYING TO FIND PEOPLE TO RUN FOR, FOR THE BOARD, AND, AND YOU KNOW, IT, IT REALLY WOULD HELP.
ANYTHING ELSE ON THIS TOPIC? I'M GOOD.
OUR NEXT MEETING DATE IS AUGUST 20TH, 25TH.
UH, SUPERVISOR KEL, THANK YOU FOR FILLING IN FOR ME.
THERE, THERE WAS ABSOLUTELY NO GOOD WAY TO GET HERE TODAY FROM, FROM, FROM MILWAUKEE BETWEEN CONSTRUCTION AND AN ACCIDENT, AND MORE CONSTRUCTION AND THEN OTHER CONSTRUCTION.
SO THANK YOU FOR YOUR PATIENCE AND THANKS FOR FILLING IN.
YOU CAN, YOU CAN THANK THE DEPARTMENT OF PUBLIC WORKS FOR THAT.
YEAH, IT'S FUNNY, I WAS CALLING HIM TO TELL HIM I WAS GONNA BE LATE AND HE'S BEHIND ME.