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          AND ARE THERE ANY, 
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UH, NOTATIONS OR CHANGES OR ANYTHING THAT NEEDS TO OCCUR WITH THAT? NO, SIR. 
          HEARING NONE, I WILL CONSIDER THAT PASSED. 
          UH, THAT A QUESTION THOUGH. 
          WE'LL ALSO, UH, AGREE. 
          THEN THE, UH, PAYMENT FOR IS THAT ISFELD FARMS, LLC. 
          THAT'S ALL IN ORDER. 
          OKAY. 
          ALL RIGHT. 
          DISCUSSABLE OR POSSIBLE ACTION 2020. 
          UH, ITEM A 2025 RESOLUTION ADVISORY RESOLUTION URGING THE WISCONSIN LEGISLATURE TO AMEND, HANG ON ONE SECOND. 
          UH, THE WISCONSIN ADMINISTRATIVE CODE FLOOD STORAGE AND FLOOD FRINGE REGULATIONS TO PROTECT PERSONAL PROPERTY RIGHTS AND PROPERTY VALUES. 
          BUT YOU'RE SPEAKING ON THIS? YEP. 
          ALRIGHT. 
          ALRIGHT. 
          TO, UM, I HOPE YOU GUYS GOT SOME TIME TO QUICKLY LOOK AT THE RESOLUTION OR REALLY LOOK AT THAT RESOLUTION THAT, UH, WE SENT THROUGH. 
          UM, THIS ALL STEMMED FROM THE FLOODPLAIN MAPPING CHANGES THAT HAVE BEEN TAKING PLACE FOR ALMOST A YEAR AND A HALF NOW. 
          UM, THOSE HAVE TO BE FINALIZED BY FEBRUARY AT THIS TIME. 
          SO WE WERE JUST NOTIFIED BY THE DNR THAT THESE MAPS HAVE TO BE OFFICIAL BY, CAN'T REMEMBER THE DATE OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD BY FEBRUARY. 
          UM, BUT THE WHOLE ISSUE WITH DREW LAKE STEMMED FROM THIS DREW LAKE. 
          THE DNR IS PUTTING THEM INTO A FLOOD STORAGE AREA THAT IS OVERLAID WITH THEIR FLOOD FRINGE AREA. 
          ESSENTIALLY, THIS MAKES, MAKES THEIR ZONING DISTRICT FOR THE FLOODPLAIN MORE RESTRICTIVE. 
          THE BIG RESTRICTION IS YOU CAN'T BRING IN FILL, WHICH FILL IS REQUIRED BY THE STATE OF WISCONSIN TO ALLOW YOUR HOME TO BE BUILT OUT THE FLOODPLAIN. 
          SO THERE'S SOME CONTRADICTIONS THERE WITH FEMA'S REGULATIONS, THE STATES, AND THAT'S WHERE THIS ALL STEMMED FROM. 
          UM, WE DID MEET WITH DRUID LAKE ALMOST A MONTH AND A HALF AGO, ME, JAMIE, AND JOSH, TO DISCUSS THIS ISSUE, UM, AND GET INPUT FROM THE DRUID LAKE RESIDENTS, WHICH WE HAD A LOT OF, UH, CONSTITUENTS WHO CAME TO THIS MEETING TO YES. 
          UH, THE RESIDENTS OF DRUID LAKE. 
          COULD YOU PLEASE RAISE YOUR HAND SO WE CAN SEE WHO'S ALL GOT THE INTEREST HERE? AND WE THANK YOU AND WE APPRECIATE YOU SHOWING UP HERE TONIGHT. 
          UH, THIS WE REALIZE IS A VERY IMPORTANT ISSUE AND, UH, IN ORDER FOR US TO DO THINGS, WE NEED YOU TO COME HERE AND, AND SHOW YOUR SUPPORT FOR THINGS. 
          SO, UM, I HOPE, UH, GENERALLY SPEAKING THAT YOU'RE IN SUPPORT OF THIS ITEM. 
          UH, WE'RE GONNA GIVE IT A SHOT. 
          AND, UH, THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR, FOR COMING OUT. 
          OKAY. 
          GO AHEAD. 
          THANK YOU. 
          YES. 
          UH, SO FOR THE RESOLUTION, UH, THAT YOU HAD BEFORE, YOU IS BASICALLY ASKING, IT'S GOING AFTER THE WISCONSIN STATE STATUTE. 
          NOT SO MUCH FEMA IN THIS CASE, THE STATE IS MORE RESTRICTIVE THAN FEMA. 
          SO THE FLOOD STORAGE IS A WISCONSIN DNR CREATED RULE. 
          WE'RE ASKING FOR THAT TO BE LOOKED AT AND MORE SOLUTIONS TO ALLOW RESIDENTS TO BUILD IF THEIR HOME WAS TO BE FLOODED AND TO BETTER UPKEEP THEIR HOME. 
          'CAUSE RIGHT NOW WITH STATE STATUTE, THEY'RE UNDER A VERY STRICT REGULATIONS, ESSENTIALLY. 
          SO ESSENTIALLY SOMEONE'S HOME WAS TO FLOOD OR BURN DOWN. 
          IT'S ALMOST IMPOSSIBLE TO REBUILD WITH THAT FLOOD STORAGE DISTRICT. 
          IT CAN BE DONE, BUT FOR MOST LOTS THEY'RE SMALL IN SIZE. 
          UM, THE RESTRICTIONS ARE TOO GREAT. 
          THEY WON'T BE ALLOWED TO BRING FILL IN. 
          THERE'S LOW GROUND WATER, SO YOU CAN'T COMPENSATE FILL, WHICH IS BASICALLY WHAT THE FLOOD STORAGE IS FOR. 
          ANY FILL YOU PUT ON THE PROPERTY, YOU HAVE TO TAKE OFF THAT PROPERTY SOMEWHERE. 
          WITH THE LOW GROUNDWATER, THERE'S NOT MUCH TO TAKE OFF AS WITH THE LOT SIZE. 
          UM, SO THE RESOLUTION ITSELF TOUCHES ON THAT AND URGING THE DNR TO LOOK AT MORE SOLUTIONS AND RE-LOOK AT THESE FLOOD PLAIN ORDINANCES TO PROTECT PROPERTY RIGHTS, BUT ALSO TO ALLOW PEOPLE TO KEEP LIVING ON THESE FLOODPLAIN LAKES. 
          AND IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ON CERTAIN PARTS OF THE RESOLUTION, UM, I KNOW SUPERVISOR PRIDE MOORE HAD A LOT OF INPUT, UH, FROM RESIDENTS ON. 
          YES. 
          AND AARON, IF YOU HAVE ANY COMMENTS ON THAT? YEAH, I WOULD LIKE, IF YOU DON'T MIND IF I, ONE MOMENT BEFORE WE DO THAT. 
          OKAY. 
          FIRST WE'LL NEED TO TAKE A MOTION, UH, ON THIS ITEM. 
          SO IT'LL BE MOTION BY SUPERVISOR PRIDE MOORE. 
          DO I HAVE A SECOND? SECOND BY SUPERVISOR KREBS. 
          AND DISCUSSION SUPERVISOR PRIDE MOORE. 
          OKAY. 
          I'D LIKE TO READ, UM, A COMMENT FROM ONE, ONE OF THE LADIES THAT SENT ME. 
          I HAVE, UH, QUITE A FEW EMAILS AND THEY'RE PRETTY SIMILAR TO THE ONE HERE. 
          IF YOU DON'T MIND ME READING THIS, PLEASE. 
          UM, THE PURPOSE OF THIS NOTE IS TO ADDRESS A SPECIFIC CONCERN REGARDING THE RESOLUTION ON THE SECOND PAGE, LINES SIX THROUGH NINE. 
          IT STATES THAT THEY RECOMMEND WE USE PYLONS, HELICAL PIERS. 
          HOPE I'M NOT PRONOUNCING THAT TOO BAD. 
          AND OTHER ENGINEERING SYSTEMS, CERTAINLY WE WILL DO THAT AND WANT 
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THE PROTECTION WHEN WE BUILD, BUT IF THEY DON'T REMOVE THE REQUIREMENT OF THE 30 FEET OF FILL AROUND OUR HOMES, THE RESOLUTION VERBIAGE DOES NOT HELP US AT ALL BECAUSE OF THE 60 AND 70 FOOT LOTS WITH OUR LOT SIZES, THE CURRENT FILL REQUIREMENT WOULD MAKE REBUILDING TO FLOOD STANDARDS IMPOSSIBLE. 
          WE WOULD APPRECIATE YOUR CONSIDERATION OF THE FOLLOWING AMENDMENT TO THIS. 
          THAT EXISTING HOMES WOULD BE GRANDFATHERED INTO THE REBUILD IN THE CURRENT FOOTPRINT AND VOID THE 30 FOOT FILL AROUND ALL SIDES OF THE HOME. 
          AND SHE THANKS US VERY MUCH FOR LISTENING, BUT MOST OF THE EMAILS WERE ALL LIKE, LIKE THIS. 
          OKAY. 
          UH, SO YOU'RE THE EXPERT . 
          UM, AND I UNDERSTAND, UH,  PERSONALLY, I DON'T SEE A PROBLEM WITH GRANDFATHERING, UM, IS FOR MY OWN PERSONAL VIEW HERE MM-HMM . 
          UM, AND WHETHER OR NOT THAT CAN BE INCLUDED IN, UH, IN THIS. 
          UM, BUT AS FAR AS HEEL PEERS AND STUFF LIKE THAT, COULD YOU GIVE US A LITTLE BIT OF A BRIEF SURE. 
          EDUCATE US A LITTLE BIT. 
          YEAH, NO, OF COURSE. 
          SO THE ONLY WAY TO REBUILD IN A FLOODPLAIN IS TO BRING IN 30 FEET OF FILL AROUND THE HOME, A FOOT ABOVE THE FLOODPLAIN ELEVATION. 
          AND THE HOME HAS TO BE TWO FEET ABOVE THE FLOODPLAIN ELEVATION. 
          THIS IS REFERENCING THAT THESE LOTS ARE VERY NARROW. 
          SO TO BUILD A HOME, IF ANYONE CAN FIGURE IT OUT, LET ME KNOW. 
          BUT YOU CAN'T BRING 30 FEET OF FILL AROUND A HOME IN THAT SMALL OF A LOT. 
          THESE LOTS GO FROM 60 FEET TO 90 FEET, SO IT MAKES IT IMPOSSIBLE. 
          UM, RECENTLY IN JANUARY WE DID ISSUE A VARIANCE FOR AN EXCEPTION THAT WAS GRANTED, UM, BY OUR BOARD OF ADJUSTMENT THAT WOULD'VE BEEN FOR REDUCED FILL SETBACK. 
          AND THE DNR DOES NOT. 
          THEY HAVE BEEN THE ONE TO SUGGEST THAT VARIANCE RULE. 
          UM, RECENTLY I TALKED TO A COUPLE MEMBERS ON THE LAKE AND, UH, THEY DID TALK TO THE DNR AND IT IS A COMMON VARIANCE THAT THEY'RE NOT OPPOSED. 
          UH, AT OUR BOARD OF ADJUSTMENT, WE DID HAVE SOME OPPOSITION FROM THE LETTER, BUT GENERALLY THE DNR SUPPOSEDLY WILL NOT BE AGAINST A BOARD OF ADJUSTMENT WITH THAT REDUCED FILL. 
          THE GOAL OF THE HECO PEERS OR PYLONS IS TO REMOVE THAT COMPLETELY, TO BE ABLE TO USE ENGINEERING SYSTEMS TO RAISE THE IT OUT. 
          SO YOU DON'T NEED TO BRING IN ANY FILL AT ALL. 
          UM, ALMOST KINDA LIKE A COASTAL ZONE WHERE YOU RAISE THE HOUSE UP ON STILTS. 
          THIS WOULD MITIGATE FROM HAVING TO BRING IN FILL SINCE THE FLOOD STORAGE RULES, RULES DO NOT ALLOW YOU TO BRING IN FILL, WHICH IS THE BIGGEST CONCERNS OF RESIDENTS ON THE LAKE IS RIGHT NOW THEY'RE ABLE TO GET HOMES BY JUMPING THROUGH A TON OF HOOPS. 
          BUT ONCE THAT GOES INTO PLAY, I MEAN, IT'S PRETTY MUCH OUT THE WINDOW AS HOW THE DEMOGRAPHICS OF THAT LOT IS. 
          IT'S, YOU CAN'T BRING IN ANY MORE FILL TO RAISE THESE HOME UP WITH HOW THE FLOOD STORAGE RULES ARE WRITTEN. 
          UM, SO THAT'S KIND OF A BASIS OF WHAT IT IS. 
          I CAN CLARIFY MORE IF YOU HAVE QUESTIONS ON IT. 
          CAN YOU ADDRESS THE SPECIFIC AMENDMENT LANGUAGE? YEAH. 
          UM, YEAH. 
          SO, UM, FOR THAT AMENDMENT LANGUAGE, I, WITH THE SHORELINE RULES, YOU CAN REBUILD IN THE SAME FOOTPRINT, BUT FLOOD PLAIN DOESN'T WORK THAT WAY. 
          YOU HAVE TO GET THE BUILDING TO CONFORM. 
          I THINK THE GOAL OF THIS RESOLUTION IS TO URGE OTHER SOLUTIONS TO NOT HAVE TO BRING IN FILL, SUCH AS THE HEEL PEERS OR PYLONS. 
          THAT WAS THE INTENT OF IT. 
          BUT IF YOU SEE ANY REWORDING, WE COULD REWRITE THE AMENDMENT OR ADD THAT IN THERE TO ALLOW TO BUILD IN THE SAME FOOTPRINT. 
          UM, BUT MOST LIKELY THE DNR AND FEMA WOULD LIKE TO SEE THESE HOMES CONFORM SOMEWHAT. 
          AND WE'RE ASKING FOR OTHER SOLUTIONS 'CAUSE THEY ONLY HAVE ONE SOLUTION AND IT'S IMPOSSIBLE, ESSENTIALLY, DENNIS. 
          OKAY. 
          UH, DO YOU HAVE MORE, UH, WELL, THE STATEMENT I WANTED TO MAKE WAS WHY IS ONLY DREW LAKE SEEM TO BE THE ONLY, UH, PERSON, UH, FA UH, LAKE THAT'S BEING WITH ALL THESE RULES AND REGULATIONS? RIGHT. 
          RIGHT. 
          I THINK IT'S, UH, BECAUSE IT'S A LOW LINE LAKE, UM, I CAN'T ARGUE WITH THE MAPPING THAT THE DNR DID IF IT'S RIGHT OR WRONG, BUT THE DNR STATES, IT'S A LOW LINE. 
          LAKE ELEVATIONS ARE LOW, WHICH THEY SAY FLOODING CAN TAKE PLACE THERE. 
          UM, IN WASHINGTON COUNTY, IT'S REALLY THE ONLY LAKE THAT IS A LOW LINE LAKE LIKE THIS. 
          UM, BIG CEDAR, LITTLE CEDAR. 
          UM, THEY'RE ALL UP HIGHER ON ELEVATION. 
          YOU GOT THAT HILL, SO YOU DON'T HAVE FLOODING THAT GOES INTO, THERE'S BASICALLY NO FLOODPLAIN TO IT 'CAUSE OF THE ELEVATION, THE HILL RISING ESSENTIALLY. 
          UM, 
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THIS IS A PROBLEM THROUGHOUT WISCONSIN. 
          IT'S JUST NOT WASHINGTON COUNTY, BUT DRU LAKE IS, IS REALLY THE ONLY ONE IN WASHINGTON COUNTY THAT HAS THIS PROBLEM. 
          BUT THERE'S OTHER COUNTIES THAT DO HAVE PROBLEMS WITH THESE LOWLINE FLOODPLAIN LAKES, AND THEY'RE IN THE SAME SITUATION WHERE ESSENTIALLY THE SAME THING HAPPENS. 
          IF IT FLOODS YOUR HOME, IT'S ALMOST IMPOSSIBLE TO REBUILD IT. 
          OKAY. 
          THEN THE, THE THE WONDERFUL RAINSTORM WE HAD, UH, WAS THAT TWO WEEKS NOW? YEAH. 
          THEIR HOMES WEREN'T FLOODED, RIGHT? YEAH, IT WAS UNBEL. 
          WE GOT A LOT OF RAIN. 
          I, I HONESTLY WAS SURPRISED THAT THERE WASN'T ANY FLOODING. 
          AND THAT GOES BACK TO THE DNRS MAPPING AND HOW ACCURATE IT IS, WHICH IS A VALID ARGUMENT. 
          I DON'T KNOW WHAT RAIN EVENTS THEY DECLARED THE, THE TOWN OF AARON INN OR THE DRUID LAKE. 
          I HAVEN'T SEEN ANY DATA YET, BUT IT WOULD BE INTERESTING TO SEE WHAT THEY DECLARE IT AS. 
          THAT MAPPING RIGHT NOW IS A HUNDRED YEARS. 
          SO EVERY, EVERY YEAR IN A HUNDRED YEARS, THAT EVENT COULD HAPPEN. 
          NOW IF YOU HAVE A ONE IN A 500 YEAR EVENT, THAT'S A BIGGER FLOOD FLOOD WITH GREATER EXTENTS. 
          SO I KNOW SOME PEOPLE WERE SAYING THAT'S A ONE IN 500 YEAR OR ONE IN THOUSAND, AND IF THAT WAS THE CASE, IT SHOULD HAVE FLOODED OUT THAT AREA. 
          UM, SO IT'LL BE INTERESTING TO SEE WHAT THE DATA SHOWS ON IT. 
          UM, I HAVEN'T SEEN ANYTHING YET, BUT IT'S AN EXCELLENT POINT. 
          AND IT WAS IN THE BACK OF MY HEAD ALSO. 
          SO, AND THEN WOULD IT BE A GOOD IDEA TO HAVE THIS AMENDMENT IN THERE THEN THAT, TO PUT THIS IN THIS RESOLUTION? Y YES, IT COULD BE POSSIBLE. 
          I THINK THE BEST WAY TO DO IT WOULD BE TO WAIT FOR THE DATA TO SEE WHAT TYPE OF STORM EVENT THEY DECLARED THAT AREA. 
          BUT YES, THAT IF, SHOULD WE HOLD OFF ON THIS RESOLUTION, THEN, UM, THAT WOULD BE UP TO YOU GUYS IF YOU DETERMINE THAT YOU WOULD LIKE TO HAVE THAT ADDED IN. 
          UM, PERSONALLY, I THINK THAT'S REALLY GOOD SUPPORTING DOCUMENTATION AND I'D, I'D HATE TO SEE THAT NOT BROUGHT TO THE SENATE AND THEN THE ASSEMBLY, UH, SO THAT THEY CAN SEE, HEY, WE JUST HAD PROBABLY A 500 YEAR FLOOD AND OUR HOMES DIDN'T FLOOD OUT. 
          YOU KNOW, THIS IS CAUSING UNDUE HARM TO HOMEOWNERS OF DRUID LAKE. 
          SO, UM, IF YOU'RE GONNA TAKE A SHOT AT THIS TYPE OF RESOLUTION, YOU REALLY GOTTA MAKE IT RIGHT THE FIRST TIME. 
          YOU GOTTA HIT A BULLSEYE. 
          SO, UH, THEY CAN'T QUESTION AND, AND IT DOESN'T BECOME POLITICAL, YOU KNOW, THAT. 
          I THINK THOSE ARE THE THINGS THAT YOU REALLY WANT TO TRY AND WORK TOWARDS. 
          UH, SUPERVISOR MARY, YOU HAD SOMETHING YES, I HAD HAD A QUESTION. 
          YOU INDICATED THAT SOME, HOW SOMEONE AT THE DNR INDICATING SAID, WELL, YEAH, GO AHEAD AND DO IT AND WE'LL BE OKAY. 
          MM-HMM . 
          UH, IS THAT IN WRITING? UM, WE DO HAVE . 
          WE DO HAVE AN EMAIL THAT WAS, UH, TO ONE OF THE RESIDENTS HERE REGARDING THAT. 
          UM, IN TERMS OF OPPOSITION, WE HAVE THAT IN WRITING AS WHEN WE DO A BOARD OF ADJUSTMENTS. 
          UM, WE HAVE COMMENT FROM THE DNR AND FROM OUR FLOODPLAIN ENGINEER IN THE AREA. 
          THEY WERE A OPPOSED TO IT. 
          SO I HAVE MIXED SIGNALS FROM THE DNR AND HOW THEY'D LIKE TO HANDLE IT. 
          UM, FROM TALKING TO THEM VIA PHONE, THEY HAVE ALLOWED IT. 
          SO I WAS A LITTLE TAKEN ABACK AT THE BOARD OF ADJUSTMENT WHEN THEY WERE OPPOSED TO IT, ESSENTIALLY. 
          SO NOTHING, UH, FORMALLY IN WRITING OTHER THAN MAYBE EMAILS AND PHONE CALL AND THE OPPOSITION LETTER THAT WOULD'VE BEEN WITH OUR BOA FILE AND IS WITH OUR BOA FILE IF YOU'D LIKE TO SEE IT. 
          ONE QUESTION, CHAIRMAN, WHAT EXACTLY IS THE STATUS OF OUR DECISION HERE TODAY? UH, WELL, I MEAN, CURRENTLY WE COULD SEND IT AS WRITTEN, WE COULD AMEND IT OR WE COULD POSTPONE IT, UH, TRYING TO SEEK MORE INFORMATION OR TO ADJUST IT AND GET IT RIGHT. 
          I MEAN, THIS IS AN ADVISORY, IS THAT CORRECT? THIS IS AN ADVISORY. 
          UM, BUT I THINK THIS ONE, YOU KNOW, WITH THE RIGHT LANGUAGE COULD HAVE SOME PRETTY GOOD TEETH TO IT. 
          UH, BECAUSE I MEAN, OBVIOUSLY, UH, THERE'S SOME PRETTY GOOD, UH, SENATORS AND ASSEMBLYMEN THAT KIND OF ARE IN THAT AREA. 
          SO I, I I, I TO, I TOTALLY SUPPORT THE GRANDFATHER CLAUSE TO THIS SITUATION BECAUSE WE, WE'VE SEEN, WE'VE HAD LANDOWNERS HERE WHO'VE HAD THIS PROPERTY FOR A NUMBER OF YEARS. 
          OBVIOUSLY IT SURVIVED THE 500 YEAR FLOOD, BUT IN ORDER TO, IF SOMETHING THEY WANTED TO DO SOMETHING TO WHATEVER THE NEW RESTRICTIONS WOULD TOTALLY PROHIBIT THEM FROM DOING THAT. 
          CORRECT. 
          AND I THINK WE HAD DISCUSSION WITH IT. 
          IT WAS THE LAST MONTH'S MEETING WE HAD IS JUST ALMOST LIKE A TAKING OF LAND. 
          UH, YOU, YOU OWN THE LAND, BUT YOU'RE RESTRICTED, YOU CAN'T DO ANYTHING WITH IT UNDER THE NEW RULES. 
          AND IF, IF IT WOULD BE BENEFICIAL TO IMPACT THE, THE OPINIONS OF OUR REPRESENTATIVES 
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TO ADD THE GRANDFATHER CLAUSE INTO HERE, UH, IN SOME WAY, MANNER OR FORM, I'M NOT SURE WHAT THE WORDING WOULD BE, BUT SOMETHING THAT THE DNR WOULD RECOGNIZE AS BEING, OKAY, THIS IS A VALID DESCRIPTION OF WHAT WE NEED TO HAVE DONE, OR WHATEVER IT IS, IT'S SOMETHING THAT THEY'RE GONNA RECOGNIZE. 
          SAY, OKAY, YEAH, WE CONCUR WITH THIS BECAUSE IT'S GRANDFATHERED IN. 
          AND IF WE CAN HAVE THE IMPACT OF THE COUNTY WAITING BEHIND IT SAYING, HEY, WE WANT, WE ARE INSISTING THAT THESE RESIDENTS BE GRANDFATHERED IN BECAUSE YOUR NEW REGULATIONS HAVE TAKEN AWAY THEIR PROPERTY. 
          AND IT'S REALLY, THAT'S WHAT IT COMES DOWN TO. 
          UNLESS I'M TOTALLY MISUNDERSTANDING THAT NO, YOU GOTTA, YOU, YOU'RE TAKING IT AWAY. 
          SUCH A, YOU CAN'T USE IT THE WAY YOU BOUGHT IT FOR THE REASONS YOU PURCHASED IT. 
          MM-HMM . 
          AND FOR THE REASONS, THE SAME REASON YOU'VE BEEN USING IT. 
          THEY'RE TAKING THAT AWAY. 
          AND I, I REALLY BELIEVE IF IT, IF IT MEANS ANOTHER WEEK, ANOTHER MONTH, WHATEVER IT TAKES, IF INDEED WE'RE NOT STALLING A PROCESS SOMEWHERE THAT IF WE PROPERTY WERE A GRANDFATHER CLAUSE IN HERE, THAT THE CURRENT RESIDENCE WOULD BE EXEMPT. 
          AND AGAIN, DNR SHOULD PROBABLY BE CONSULTED ON HOW IS, HOW SHOULD IT BE WORDED THAT THEY'RE GONNA ACCEPT IT SUCH THAT THE RESIDENTS COULD BE EXEMPT FROM THESE NEW RULES AND REGULATIONS THAT BASICALLY TAKE, TAKE AWAY THEIR PROPERTY FROM THEM. 
          RIGHT. 
          AND I DON'T KNOW HOW TO WORD THAT THE OTHER PEOPLE WOULD'VE TO DO THAT. 
          WITH, WITH THAT ADDITION, IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO GO THAT ROUTE, WOULD YOU LIKE IT BEING THE SAME, SAME FOOTPRINT, WHICH IS THAT SHORELINE CODE? THAT'S FINE. 
          BUT ANYTHING WITH ELEVATION CHANGE WITH IT, OR EXACTLY AS IS, IS THERE, MY ONLY FEAR IS THAT THEN YOU DRAG IN THE FEDERAL RULES, WHICH WERE MORE TARGETING THIS TOWARDS THE STATE RULES WITH THE FLOOD STORAGE. 
          UM, WE WOULD, WE WOULD HAVE TO PROBABLY REWRITE OR HAVE A SECOND, UM, RESOLUTION THAT WOULD TARGET THE FEDERAL RULES. 
          'CAUSE YOU, YOU'RE DRAGGING A FEDERAL RULE OF THAT. 
          SO THE DNR WILL LOOK AT THAT AND SAY, WELL GO TALK TO FEMA ON THAT ONE. 
          WHERE THE FLOOD STORAGE STRICTLY GOES AFTER THE WISCONSIN DNR, IF THAT MAKES SENSE. 
          IT GETS COMPLICATED WITH WHO DOES WHAT RULE . 
          I, I, I CAN'T SUGGEST TO YOU HOW IT SHOULD BE WORDED. 
          I DON'T KNOW. 
          I'M NOT THE TECHNICAL PERSON ON THAT, BUT OBVIOUSLY SOMEBODY WHO KNOWS HOW THE RULES WORK AND HOW THEY CAN BE GOTTEN AROUND OR WHAT THE IMPACT OF A GRANDFATHER CLAUSE WOULD BE. 
          I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE WORDING SHOULD BE. 
          SURE. 
          BUT I REALLY DO BELIEVE FOR THE SAKE OF THE RESIDENCE HERE, THE LANDOWNERS, THERE NEEDS TO BE SOMETHING IN THERE GIVING THEM SOME KIND OF ASSURANCE THAT THERE'S STILL THEIR PROPERTY AND THEY CAN STILL USE IT. 
          MM-HMM . 
          OKAY. 
          IF I MAY INTERJECT ON THAT, I'LL SURE I'LL GET BACK TO YOU. 
          UM, SO BASICALLY WHAT HE'S SAYING IS YOU GOT TWO DIFFERENT RULES HERE. 
          MM-HMM . 
          OKAY. 
          AND IF WE WERE TO DO THIS GRANDFATHER, YOU'RE BRINGING IN FEMA NOW, AND IT TOTALLY SEPARATE THING FROM WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO ACCOMPLISH WITH THIS RESOLUTION. 
          UM, IF WE TRY TO WRITE IT IN THIS RESOLUTION, IT'S GONNA PROBABLY, IF, IF I THINK IT WRONG, DNR IS GONNA LOOK LIKE, WELL, WE'RE JUST GONNA GO AHEAD AND THROW THIS IN THE GARBAGE BECAUSE IT'S, IT'S SOMETHING WE HAVE NO CONTROL OVER. 
          THAT'S A FEMUR RULE. 
          SO THE DANGER HERE WITH ADDING THIS, IF I'M GETTING THIS RIGHT, IS THAT DNR WON'T PAY ATTENTION TO IT BECAUSE IT DOES AFFECT A FEMUR RULING. 
          SO YOU CAN EITHER GO WITH LIKE A SECOND RESOLUTION OR STICK TO THE GUIDELINES OF WHAT'S IN THIS TO KEEP FROM KIND OF ACTIVATING THE DN R'S ABILITY TO WORM THEIR WAY OUT OF IT, FOR LACK OF A BETTER WORD. 
          I'M NOT SURE WHAT THE STEPS WOULD BE TO DO THIS PROPERLY, BUT OBVIOUSLY THIS DOESN'T SEEM RIGHT THE WAY IT IS RIGHT NOW AND WHAT HAS TO BE DONE TO CORRECT IT, I DON'T KNOW. 
          BUT THAT'S ABOVE OUR PAY GRADE PROBABLY, MR. CHAIRMAN. 
          WELL, THIS IS RIGHT FOR THAT ONE RULE, UM, YOU KNOW, FOR THE FLOOD PLAIN RULE THAT THE DNR CONTROLS OR APPEALING, YOU KNOW, SO IF YOU START WITH THIS, YOU CAN ADD ON, YOU KNOW, ANOTHER ADVISORY RESOLUTION. 
          BUT THIS ONE ITSELF COVERS THE MAIN PROBLEM WITH THE WISCONSIN DNR ITSELF. 
          SO THAT'S SOMETHING WE CAN, YOU KNOW, IF YOU WRITE IN STUFF THAT THEY'RE NOT RESPONSIBLE FOR YOU RISK LOSING THIS. 
          SO THAT'S WHY YOU MIGHT WANT TO GO WITH A SECOND ADVISORY RESOLUTION. 
          IF, IF THAT'S GONNA GIVE A SOLUTION, THAT'S FINE. 
          OKAY. 
          I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE THESE PEOPLE OVER HERE ARE PROTECTED WITH THEIR LAND. 
          AND I JUST WANT TO NOTE TOO, YOU HAVE TO TAKE, LET'S TAKE THEM IN THE PROPER MANNER. 
          SURE. 
          NO, I JUST WANNA NOTE TOO, AS OF NOW, WITHOUT THIS FLOOD STORAGE RULE, THERE'S 
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A VERY HIGH CHANCE THEY CAN REBUILD AS WE'VE SEEN IT DONE. 
          UM, RESIDENTS HAVE REBUILT THEIR HOMES BEFORE THIS FLOOD STORAGE RULE CAME INTO PLAY AND DONE ADDITIONS AND TRIED TO, UH, MAKE ALL THE CHANGES BEFORE THIS ESSENTIALLY GOT PUSHED THROUGH. 
          RIGHT NOW THERE'S A HIGH CHANCES THAT THEY CAN REBUILD. 
          AND I'VE SEEN IT DONE. 
          IT'S AS SOON AS THAT FLOOD STORAGE COMES INTO PLAY, WHICH IS THE DNR RULE, THAT'LL REALLY CHANGE THINGS A HUNDRED PERCENT. 
          HMM. 
          UH, SUPERVISOR PRIDE MORE. 
          COULD YOU HOLD OFF A LITTLE BIT? I WANT TO GIVE SUPERVISOR KREBS AN OPPORTUNITY AND I, I KNOW THE CHAIRMAN WOULD LIKE TO ASK A QUESTION AS WELL. 
          SO SUPERVISOR KREBS, THANK YOU. 
          I THINK THE WORD GRANDFATHER MAYBE ISN'T THE RIGHT TERM THAT WE SHOULD BE THROWING AROUND HERE, BUT BEFORE I GO DOWN THAT PATH, I THINK A SEPARATE RESOLUTION MIGHT BE AN ORDER DOWN THE ROAD ONCE WE, ONCE THE FACTS COME OUT ABOUT THE MOST RECENT RAINFALL EVENT FOR, ARE THESE MAPS EVEN CORRECT TO START WITH? 'CAUSE IF THE MAPS ARE CORRECT, A LOT OF THIS, YES, STILL SHOULD BE ADDRESSED, BUT IT'S NOT AS IMMINENT, ESPECIALLY FOR THIS AREA. 
          SO DEPENDING ON WHAT CLASSIFICATION DATA SHOWS OF THAT RAINFALL EVENT, MAYBE WE SHOULD TRY TO, UH, PASS ANOTHER RESOLUTION ASKING THE DNR TO REEXAMINE THE MAPS. 
          OR MAYBE WE COULD GET SOME HELP FROM OUR FRIENDS AT SEWER PACK THAT WE'LL BE DISCUSSING HERE TODAY TOO, AND STUFF LIKE THAT. 
          UH, SEE WHERE THAT DATA LEADS US. 
          UM, BUT AS FAR AS THE GRANDFATHERING OF STRUCTURES AND STUFF, I THINK IF YOU LOOK AT THIS RESOLUTION PAGE TWO, LINE SIX THROUGH 14 WHERE IT SAYS THEREFORE BE RESOLVED, THOSE TWO PARAGRAPHS ARE THE, THE MEAT AND POTATOES OF WHAT THIS RESOLUTION IS. 
          AND IT'S SAYING TWO THINGS PRETTY CLEARLY. 
          ONE IS, IS ALLOW OUR, THE WISCONSIN STATUTES TO ALLOW THESE OTHER ENGINEERING SYSTEMS WHICH COM IF THOSE ARE ALLOWED, THE FILL EQUATIONS OFF THE TABLE, WE DON'T NEED A TRUCK FILL IN. 
          UM, SO I'M VERY SUPPORTIVE OF THAT TO START WITH. 
          AND I THINK THAT ADDRESSES THE FIRST SET OF ISSUES THAT WE HAVE HERE, THE HOMEOWNER THAT THE HOMEOWNERS FACE ON GETTING THESE PERMITS. 
          UM, AND THE SECOND PARAGRAPH REALLY TALKS ABOUT BRINGING THE DNR STANDARDS EQUAL TO FEMA STANDARDS. 
          CORRECT. 
          AND IF WE WANT TO CHANGE FEMA, THAT SHOULD BE A WHOLE NOTHER DIFFERENT RESOLUTION THAT WE'RE SENDING FEDERALLY AT THIS POINT, WE'RE JUST TRYING TO RAISE THE LOWEST BAR UP TO THE NEXT BAR. 
          SO I DON'T REALLY WANT TO GO DOWN THE PATH OF ADDING TOO MUCH MORE TO IT, BECAUSE YOU'RE GONNA JUST MAKE IT MORE CONFUSING. 
          RIGHT NOW, LITERALLY, IF YOU TAKE THOSE TWO PARAGRAPHS, THAT'S IT'S CLEAR, CONCISE, AND THAT WOULD REALLY RESOLVE THE MAJORITY OF OUR ISSUES, NOT ALL OF THEM. 
          MM-HMM . 
          YOU KNOW, IT STILL DOES, UH, BY RAISING THE, THE DNR REGULATIONS TO THE FEMA STANDARDS, IT STILL DOES LIMIT HOW MUCH YOU CAN IMPROVE YOUR STRUCTURES, UH, AFTER DAMAGE, BUT AT LEAST THERE'S A OPTION TO DO SOME OF IT. 
          RIGHT. 
          SO I WOULD SUPPORT IT AS IS BEFORE WE START MAKING TOO MANY CHANGES. 
          OKAY. 
          UH, WE'RE GONNA GO TO, UH, CHAIRMAN SCH LIFE. 
          THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN. 
          UM, FIRST OF ALL, I'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT THIS ISSUE WITH, UH, THE COUNTY EXECUTIVE FOR MONTHS NOW. 
          I KNOW HE IS MET WITH ALL OF YOU AND I, IF THERE WAS EVER A NEED FOR A ADVISORY RESOLUTION, THIS IS IT. 
          UM, I STRONGLY SUPPORT IT, BUT I HAVE TWO QUESTIONS. 
          FIRST OF ALL, YOU TALKED ABOUT IS IT A 500 YEAR STORM? IS IT A THOUSAND YEAR? DO YOU HAVE ANY IDEA HOW SOON THAT DATA WILL BE AVAILABLE? I WOULD THINK A COUPLE MONTHS, I WOULD GUESS TO HAVE ALL THE DATA AVAILABLE. 
          OKAY. 
          AND THE OTHER QUESTION IS, IF WE PUT THESE HOUSES ON PYLONS, HOW HIGH ARE WE TALKING? YEAH. 
          UM, IF IT WAS IDEAL, TWO FEET ABOVE FLOODPLAIN ELEVATION, THE REQUIREMENT RIGHT NOW IS YOUR FIRST FLOOR HAS TO BE TWO FEET ABOVE, SO A COUPLE FEET, THREE FEET, MAYBE ABOVE THE GRADE IN THAT AREA. 
          OKAY. 
          UM, SO IT WOULD STILL BE THE SAME REQUIREMENT OF BEING TWO FEET ABOVE AS YOU KEEP THE SAFETY ASPECT OF IT, WHICH IS STILL IMPORTANT, BUT YOU WOULDN'T HAVE TO BRING ANY FILL IN. 
          IT WOULD JUST BE TWO FEET ABOVE. 
          YOU'RE STILL MEETING THAT REQUIREMENT. 
          RIGHT. 
          THAT YOU DON'T NEED TO SHIP AND FILL. 
          AND EVEN IF THE FLOOD STORAGE WAS NOT TO BE TAKEN A, EVEN IF THEY KEPT THE FLOOD STORAGE DISTRICT, I THINK THIS COULD BE A SOLUTION THAT WOULD GO, I DON'T WANNA SAY GO AROUND IT, BUT SATISFY IT. 
          I, I'M HOPING MAKE THE SITUATION BETTER. 
          RIGHT. 
          AND ALSO THINK, UH, SUPERVISOR KREBS FOR HIS COMMENTS. 
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THAT WAS RIGHT ON. 
          THANK YOU. 
          OKAY. 
          UH, SUPERVISOR PRIDMORE. 
          WELL, I JUST WANNA MAKE THE STATEMENT. 
          MOST OF THESE HOMES HERE HAVE BEEN HANDED DOWN FROM GENERATION TO GENERATION. 
          AND I, I THINK YOU KNOW SOMETHING ABOUT HERITAGE AND I WANNA MAKE SURE IT STAYS THAT WAY WHERE THEY CAN HAND IT DOWN TO THEIR GRANDCHILDREN AND THAT THAT'S, THAT'S THEIR DESIRE. 
          AND I, I JUST THINK, CAN WE JUST MAKE THIS A LITTLE BETTER AND CRITIQUE THIS RESOLUTION? I THINK MAYBE WE COULD. 
          OKAY. 
          UH, WE'LL GO TO, UH, THE CHIEF, UH, COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT OFFICER, JAMIE LUDVIK. 
          GOOD, GOOD AFTERNOON. 
          JAMIE LUDOVIC, UM, CHIEF COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT OFFICER. 
          I JUST WANT TO ADD THAT, UM, WITH WHAT SUPERVISOR KREBS HAS SAID AND THE CHAIR AND WHAT I'M HEARING FROM THE COMMITTEE, THIS RESOLUTION WAS VETTED. 
          UM, IT WENT THROUGH SPECIFIC SHORELAND ZONING FLOODPLAIN AND FEMA ATTORNEYS, UM, THAT WE TRUST IN TERMS OF THE LANGUAGE REVIEW. 
          AND THEN FURTHER WAS ACTUALLY REVIEWED BY THE COUNTY EXECUTIVE, HIM HIMSELF, WHO ADDED THE LANGUAGE AROUND REP OF, OF TAKING BY GOVERNMENT IN, IN ITS PREPARATION TO COME BEFORE YOU. 
          SO I, WHILE I APPRECIATE THE COMMENTS THAT WE'VE RECEIVED FROM THE RESIDENTS, UM, I DO THINK WHAT WE COULD POTENTIALLY DO IF IT PLEASES THE COMMITTEE, IS I WOULD ADVISE AGAINST POSTPONING THIS RESOLUTION. 
          BUT WHAT WE COULD DO IS BETWEEN NOW AND THE COUNTY BOARD, GO BACK AND TAKE A LOOK AT THAT COMMENT REGARDING FILL REQUIREMENTS AND GRANDFATHERING AND BE BETTER PREPARED WITH BOTH WHAT THAT, WHAT THE IMPACT MIGHT BE. 
          AND THEN ALSO IF WE WERE TO ADD IT, WHAT THAT LANGUAGE MIGHT BE IN TERMS OF SOMETHING THAT WOULD BE AMENABLE TO BOTH THE COUNTY EXECUTIVE AS WELL AS THE COMMITTEE. 
          UM, DURING THE COURSE OF THAT. 
          I MEAN, I, I BELIEVE YOU CAN STILL MAKE AMENDMENTS ON THE FLOOR OF THE COUNTY BOARD. 
          UM, AND SEEING THAT THEY'RE RELATIVELY, UH, IT, IT'S RELATIVELY ALL TRYING TO ACCOMPLISH THE SAME THING. 
          WE CAN GO BACK AND VET THAT QUESTION ABOUT, YOU KNOW, IS THIS FEMA, IS THIS DNR? WHAT KIND OF CAN OF WORMS DOES IT OPEN UP IF WE START ADDING THAT LANGUAGE? BECAUSE IN ALL HONESTY, WE HAVE NOT HAD THAT CONVERSATION WITH OUR ATTORNEYS REGARDING WHAT AT, YOU KNOW, THE WORDS GRANDFATHERING DO OR DON'T DO TO THIS RESOLUTION. 
          SO, UM, I GUESS THAT WOULD BE MY RECOMMENDATION IS THAT YOU SHOW SUPPORT FOR THE RESOLUTION AND ADVANCE IT WITH A POSITIVE RECOMMENDATION, POTENTIALLY ADDING THAT YOU FURTHER DI YOU'RE FURTHER URGING THE DIRECTION OF REVIEW OF THE AMENDMENT SUBMITTED BY RESIDENTS DURING THAT TIMEFRAME. 
          AND ALSO TO THE RESIDENTS. 
          WHETHER OR NOT THAT AMENDMENT GETS INTO THIS RESOLUTION DOES NOT PRECLUDE IT FROM BEING SOMETHING THAT WE CAN TAKE A LOOK AT ADDRESS TALK ABOUT AS PART OF THIS PROCESS. 
          UM, IT IS SORT OF UNDER THE UMBRELLA OF POINT NUMBER TWO TO SOME DEGREE. 
          SO I JUST WANTED TO MAKE THOSE TWO POINTS. 
          THANK YOU. 
          OKAY. 
          THANK YOU. 
          UH, ANY OTHER DISCUSSION OR QUESTIONS FROM THE COMMITTEE? OKAY, JUST ONE MORE. 
          OKAY. 
          SUPERVISOR. 
          SO, UM, WE WOULD BE ABLE TO CHANGE ANYTHING IF WE HAVE TO DURING THE COUNTY BOARD MEETING WITH THIS RESOLUTION. 
          'CAUSE THIS JUST PASSES ON TO THE OKAY. 
          JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE. 
          AS LONG AS YOU RECEIVE A SECOND AND IT'S A MAJORITY VOTE. 
          YEAH. 
          RIGHT, RIGHT. 
          OKAY. 
          YEAH, OF COURSE. 
          OKAY. 
          UM, AND, AND THOSE TYPE OF AMENDMENTS HOPEFULLY ARE WORKED OUT BEFORE THE COUNTY BOARD. 
          RIGHT? YEAH. 
          SO, UM, I GUESS I'D LIKE TO ADD TO THIS DISCUSSION. 
          THIS, UM, I DON'T WANT TO NECESSARILY SPEAK FOR THE COMMITTEE, BUT IF YOU GO BY THE LANGUAGE THAT I'VE HEARD, WE ARE ALL IN SUPPORT OF DRUID LAKE AND THE HOMEOWNERS THERE AND, AND PROTECTING THEIR PROPERTY RIGHTS. 
          AND, YOU KNOW, WE ALL AGREE ON THIS, SO WE ALL AGREE ON THIS RESOLUTION. 
          UM, THE QUESTION THEN BECOMES WHAT'S THE BEST WAY TO HANDLE IT TO HOPEFULLY MAXIMIZE ITS EFFECTIVENESS? AND FOR THAT WE TEND TO COUNT ON OUR EXPERTS AND CERTAINLY THESE TWO ARE TWO OF OUR EXPERTS ALONG WITH THE ATTORNEYS THAT WE UTILIZE AS WELL AS THE COUNTY EXECUTIVE AND, UH, WHAT HE CAN DO. 
          SO THE IDEA HERE IS THAT WE'RE NOT SHOOTING DOWN ANY AMENDMENT HERE, WE'RE JUST TRYING TO PUT THROUGH THE BEST THING THAT'S GOING TO HOPEFULLY GET SOME ACTION THAT WE WANT TO OCCUR. 
          AND WE ALL AGREE THAT WE WANT THIS. 
          SO, UM, I THINK THAT'S KIND OF WHERE WE SHOULD PROBABLY TAKE IT. 
          UH, HOWEVER, THE ONE THING I WOULD LIKE TO SEE IF WE CAN BETWEEN NOW AND BOARD, IF WE COULD NAIL DOWN SOME NUMBERS 
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ON THAT, ON THOSE RAINFALL TOTALS, EVEN IF IT'S JUST THE, THE RAINFALL TOTALS THAT CAN BE USED AS BACKUP MATERIAL SO THAT IT CAN BE PRESENTED WITH THIS RESOLUTION THAT HEY, YOU KNOW, LOOK AT ALL THIS RAIN THAT HAPPENED. 
          THIS WAS A HUNDRED, 200, 500 YEAR FOOT. 
          WE MAY NOT GET THAT INFORMATION, BUT LOOK, YOU KNOW, EVERYBODY KNOWS THIS MASSIVE AMOUNT OF RAIN FELL AND THEY DID NOT FLOOD OUT. 
          THAT KIND OF BOLSTERS THIS OPINION A BIT. 
          MM-HMM . 
          SO IF THERE'S, IF THAT COULD BE UTILIZED BETWEEN NOW AND THEN. 
          SO I GUESS, UM, WHAT I WOULD PROBABLY SAY IS THAT, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE A MOTION, WE HAVE A SECOND ON THE FLOOR, UH, FOR THIS AND SEEING NO AMENDMENTS, I WOULD UH, URGE THAT WE VOTE TO PUSH THIS TO THE, THE COUNTY BOARD AND IF THERE IS SOMETHING THAT CAN BE DONE WITH THOSE PARTS, YOU CAN CONTINUE TO WORK WITH THEM, UH, UNTIL THAT TIME WHEN IT COMES BEFORE THE BOARD SEEM REASONABLE. 
          YES. 
          ALRIGHT. 
          SO JUST SO YOU KNOW, PAM IS ON THE EMAIL. 
          OH YEAH. 
          GOOD. 
           SEEING. 
          OKAY. 
          HI PAM . 
          OKAY. 
          UH, SO ALL IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE. 
          AYE. 
          AYE. 
          OPPOSED? ALL RIGHT. 
          WE HAVE AN ADVISOR, OH, EXCUSE ME. 
          OH, SUPERVISOR CONRAD, I'M JUST, I'M GOING TO ABSTAIN BECAUSE I JOINED THE MEETING AT 4 44. 
          TOTALLY UNDERSTOOD. 
          SUPERVISOR MARY, ONE, ONE FINAL COMMENT, SIR, WE JUST, I WOULD LIKE TO THANK THE RESIDENTS WHO SHOWED UP TODAY FOR THE MEETING BECAUSE YOU'D BE SURPRISED HOW FEW TIMES THIS HAPPENS. 
          THANK YOU FOR COMING TODAY. 
          YEAH, THANK YOU. 
          YOU ALL RIGHT. 
          WE WILL MOVE ON TWO, UH, B 2025 RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING THE WASHINGTON COUNTY GOLF COURSE EXPANSION PROJECT AND USE OF CASH ON HAND TO START THE PROJECT. 
          DO I HAVE A MOTION? MOTION BY SUPERVISOR PRIDE MOORE, SECONDED BY SUPERVISOR MARY. 
          AND DISCUSSION, UH, WHO'S PRESENTING? IS THERE ANYTHING? OKAY. 
          CAN, GOOD EVENING. 
          AGAIN, THANK YOU SO MUCH. 
          UM, I, WE HAVE TALKED ABOUT THIS PROJECT SEVERAL TIMES WITH THIS COMMITTEE, SO I AM GOING TO START BRIEF AND I CAN EXPAND AND PROVIDE AS MUCH INFORMATION AS YOU ALL WOULD LIKE ON THIS ITEM. 
          SO WE WERE BEFORE THIS COMMITTEE WHEN WE WERE GOING THROUGH THE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PLAN, IF YOU RECALL, THE 2050 PLAN SCENARIOS WHERE WE SHOWED KIND OF THE CASH FLOW. 
          AND THIS GROUP ACTUALLY RECOMMENDED THAT WE, UH, WE RECOMMEND A SCENARIO WHERE WE USE DEBT TO, TO SUSTAIN THE 750, A $750,000 CASH FLOW LEVEL IN THE GOLF COURSE. 
          SO THAT'S WHERE WE FIND OURSELVES TODAY. 
          WE JUST PREPARED A 20 26, 20 27 DRAFT AT COUNTY EXECUTIVE BUDGET. 
          THAT DOES INCLUDE, UM, A DEBT ISSUANCE AND THE INTEREST ON DEBT EASILY AS IT RELATES TO THE COST OF FINANCING THIS PROJECT. 
          DURING THE CONTEXT OF THAT CONVERSATION, WE GOT DOWN TO THE SPECIFIC LEVEL OF SHOULD WE BORROW $1.5 MILLION OVER THIS LOOKS LIKE 15 YEARS AND PAY A TOTAL OF $517,000 IN INTEREST, OR SHOULD WE BORROW $1 MILLION OVER SEVEN YEARS AND PAY A TOTAL OF $200,000 IN INTEREST OR SHOULD WE BORROW SOMETHING MORE OR SOMETHING LESS. 
          AND SO DURING THE CONTEXT OF THAT CONVERSATION, UM, AND AT THE SAME TIME WE WERE TALKING ABOUT, I KNOW I HEARD OVERHEARD THE PUBLIC WORKS COMMITTEE JUST BEFORE THIS TALKING ABOUT LEAD LATERAL REPLACEMENTS, UM, AS WELL AS THE REDEVELOPMENT TASK FORCE CAMPUS IS ANOTHER ONE ABOUT OTHER POTENTIAL DEBT SCENARIOS IN THE FUTURE. 
          UM, AND THE FINANCING TOOLS THAT THE COUNTY HAS THAT AS WE WERE TALKING ABOUT THIS, WE SAID, WELL, IT WOULD REALLY BE IN OUR BEST INTEREST TO WAIT FOR THE BIDS TO COME BACK ON THIS PROJECT OCTOBER 21ST AND THEN DECIDE HOW MUCH WE WILL BORROW THE GOLF COURSE. 
          CASH EASILY ALLOWS US TO DO THAT. 
          WE CAN, WE WERE PLANNING TO PAY FOR A CHUNK OF THIS PROJECT ANYWAY, UM, AND SO IT BECOMES KIND OF A CASH FLOW ISSUE. 
          AND SO WE, WE, DURING THE CONTEXT OF THAT CONVERSATION, WE WERE CONCERNED THAT THE COUNTY BOARD HASN'T ACTED ON THIS PROJECT. 
          UM, THE BUDGET HASN'T BEEN ADOPTED, THERE HAS BEEN NO DEBT RESOLUTION. 
          UM, THE ONLY ACTION HAS BEEN THE APPROVAL OF THE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PLAN, WHICH IS A PLANNING DOCUMENT. 
          AND SO THE SOLUTION WE'RE PUTTING FORWARD TODAY IS A RESOLUTION THAT AUTHORIZES US TO DO THIS. 
          AND, UM, ALTHOUGH IT'S AN AUTHORIZING RESOLUTION WITH A MAJORITY VOTE, IT IMPLIES THAT 
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WE INTEND TO BORROW WITH THE ADOPTION OF THE BUDGET IN THE FUTURE. 
          AND SO WE ARE LOOKING FOR A TWO THIRDS VOTE OF THIS RESOLUTION TO SHOW SUPPORT FOR THIS PROJECT. 
          UM, THE DETAILS OF THE PROJECT DID GO TO AN OPEN HOUSE. 
          THEY ARE ALSO BEING, UM, DISCUSSED WITH OUR ARCHITECTS AT THE NEXT 18 IMPACT SOCIAL NEXT WEDNESDAY NIGHT. 
          UM, SO THERE WILL BE MORE CONTEXT AROUND WHAT THOSE CURRENT RENDERINGS LOOK LIKE. 
          UM, AND THAT PROJECT, WHICH IS FULLY SUPPORTED AND FULLY FUNDED BY THE GOLF COURSE WITH NO IMPACT ON PROPERTY TAXES. 
          SO AGAIN, THIS RESOLUTION REALLY ALLOWS US TO HAVE MORE COMFORT AND, YOU KNOW, AND APPROVAL FROM THE COUNTY BOARD IN THE FACT THAT WE ARE INTENDING TO, UH, MOVE FORWARD SPENDING THE MONEY THAT WE HAVE ON THIS PROJECT. 
          SO I'D BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS IF YOU HAVE THEM ON THIS, THE OF THE TWO. 
          ALL RIGHT. 
          THANK YOU SO MUCH. 
          ANY, UH, QUESTIONS ABOUT THE COMMITTEE SUPERVISOR? KREBS? THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN. 
          UM, THE DEBT RESOLUTION THAT WOULD BE THROUGH THE COUNTY BOARD OR THROUGH, IT'S, IT'S A COUNTY DEBT EVEN THOUGH THIS IS AN ENTERPRISE FUND, CORRECT? WE WOULD BE RECOMMENDING THAT, YES. 
          OKAY. 
          SO IT'D STILL BE THE TRADITIONAL GO OUT AND SOLICIT FOR SEE WHAT THE PROPOSALS COME BACK FOR, RATES, TERMS, STUFF LIKE THAT? YES. 
          OKAY. 
          UM, AND THE BIG NUMBERS, IT SHOWS THAT WE HAVE 833,000 IN CASH ON HAND PLUS A PLEDGE FROM THE ENDOWMENT FUND OR ENDOWMENT COMMITTEE FOR ANOTHER 200,000. 
          SO, BUT, UH, SO IT LOOKS LIKE WE HAVE A MILLION BUCKS ALREADY, BUT THAT 8 33 NUMBER, HOW MUCH THAT DO WE NEED TO KEEP FOR WORKING CAPITAL LIKE 750,000 WAS, WAS IDEAL. 
          THAT IS, THAT IS PARTIALLY THE REASON WHAT YOU'RE DOING WITH THIS RESOLUTION IS YOU ARE ESSENTIALLY AT THE END OF THE DAY, AND OUR CHIEF ADMINISTRATIVE OFFICER CAN SPEAK TO THIS, BUT THE CASH ALL FALLS IN THE SAME SPOT IN THE COUNTY. 
          SO IN THE PAST IT HAS BEEN TRADITIONAL FOR IF NEEDED, THE GOLF COURSE WOULD BORROW CASH FROM JUST THE REST OF THE COUNTY'S CASH. 
          UM, I'M NOT, YEAH, JUST WHICH POCKET. 
          YES. 
          AND SO I'M NOT SAYING THAT THIS WOULD NECESSARILY HAPPEN IN THIS CASE BECAUSE IF WE GET NUMBERS BACK OCTOBER 21ST, WE WILL BE MAKING, WE WERE, WE ARE LOOKING AT MAYBE A PRELIMINARY DEBT RESOLUTION IN NOVEMBER DE SEVEN DECEMBER. 
          IT'S UNLIKELY THAT THE PROJECT WILL BE MORE THAN 20% COMPLETE BY THEN 25% COMPLETE. 
          SO WE STILL MIGHT NOT NEED TO DO THAT. 
          UM, BUT THAT IS KIND OF PART OF THE, WE'RE I'M NOT COM WE'RE NOT COMFORTABLE DOING THIS ANYMORE UNLESS THE COUNTY BOARD APPROVES THE PROJECT. 
          ERIN, DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING TO ADD TO THAT? UM, I WOULD ONLY ADD THAT I THINK THE TIMING IS IMPORTANT ON THIS BECAUSE OF THE, OUR ABILITY TO KIND OF REIMBURSE OURSELVES ONCE THE, ONCE THE PROJECT STARTS, RIGHT? SO WE CAN PRESPEN AND THEN REIMBURSE OURSELVES WITH THE DEBT PROCEEDS, BUT THE, THERE ARE CERTAIN TIMING REQUIREMENTS OF THAT. 
          AND SO WE ARE KIND OF IN A POSITION WHERE WE WANTED YOU TO SEE AND AUTHORIZE US TO GET STARTED, BUT WE DIDN'T WANT TO BRING THE INITIAL DEBT RESOLUTION TO YOU RIGHT AWAY AND START THAT CLOCK. 
          RIGHT. 
          BECAUSE WE'VE, WE'VE GOT, WE'VE GOT SOME TIMING TO KIND OF WORK OUT AND SOME OF THOSE DISCUSSIONS TO KIND OF HAMMER OUT YET. 
          SO, UM, THE TIMING IS IMPORTANT AND, AND I THINK THAT'S KIND OF WHY, UM, JUST A LITTLE EXPLANATION ABOUT WHY THIS IS A LITTLE BIT NON-TRADITIONAL IN TERMS OF DEBT AND THEN PROCEED. 
          RIGHT. 
          WHAT'S THE TIMING ISSUES OF A DEBT RESOLUTION LIKE WITHIN A, IS THERE A CERTAIN WINDOW AFTER WE APPROVE A DEBT RESOLUTION THAT WE HAVE TO EXECUTE IT OR IT'S, UM, NO, NO. 
          IN TERMS OF ISSUING DEBT, THERE ARE NO REAL TIMING PIECES, BUT IT, IT SPECIFIC TO US, UM, REIMBURSING OURSELVES, RIGHT? SO, SO IF WE WANTED TO KINDA GET STARTED ON, ON THE PROJECT, WE, WE WANT TO MAKE SURE, UM, THAT WE'RE NOT STARTING, WE'RE NOT AUTHORIZING THAT DEBT TOO EARLY BECAUSE WE ARE STILL HAVING THOSE JUST KIND OF GENERAL POLICY AND PROJECT DISCUSSIONS YET AT THIS POINT. 
          OKAY. 
          SO I GUESS MY, MY THOUGHTS OR MY ONE CONCERN WOULD BE IS ON PAPER IT LOOKS LIKE WE HAVE 50% OF THE PROJECT CASH ON HAND MORE OR LESS, BUT I DON'T WANT TO GET TOO FAR IN FRONT OF OUR SKIS HERE WHERE, YOU KNOW, WE'VE, WE, THE PROJECT'S TOO FAR ALONG AND THE FUNDING DOESN'T COME THROUGH OR SOMETHING, SO MM-HMM . 
          I'D LIKE TO KIND OF MAKE SURE WE, AT LEAST I'M OKAY WITH THIS, BUT AS LONG AS WE'RE ESTABLISHING MILESTONES OF IF WE'RE NOT ON TRACK FOR APPROVALS OR IF THE ISSUING OF THE BONDS THAT THAT PROJECT HAS TO HAVE A SPOT WHERE IT CAN STOP MM-HMM 
          [00:40:01]
. 
          OR WE'RE NOT TEARING OPEN TOO MUCH OF DEMOING TOO MUCH OF THE CLUBHOUSE AND THEN NOT HAVING THE MONEY THERE TO YEAH. 
          RESTORE IT. 
          RIGHT. 
          SO THE, THE BIG, THE BIG DATE IN MY MIND ON OUR CURRENT SCHEDULE IS OCTOBER 21ST, WHICH IS WHEN BIDS WOULD COME BACK. 
          SO ON OCTOBER 21ST, WE WOULD, WE SHOW 2 MILLION IN THIS PROJECT, BUT IF YOU DIVE INTO THAT LINE, LINE BY LINE, THAT WAS A PRETTY HIGH LEVEL BUDGET. 
          AS THEY'RE PREPARING CONSTRUCTION DOCUMENTS, THEY'RE TUNING THAT NUMBER MM-HMM . 
          WE JUST HAD VERY, VERY FAVORABLE BIDS AS A COUNTY COME BACK ON BOTH OUR CAMPUS PROJECT AS WELL AS OUR FAIR PARK PROJECT. 
          SO WE WERE, AS WE'RE TALKING ABOUT, WELL, HOW MUCH SHOULD WE BORROW AND WHAT KIND OF INTEREST DOES THE COUNTY WANNA PAY AND WHAT'S IN THE BEST INTEREST OF THE GOLF COURSE? IT REALLY CAME DOWN TO THAT QUESTION OF HOW MUCH DO WE REALLY NEED TO STAY AT OUR CASH THRESHOLD AND NOT HOLD TOO MUCH CASH? AND SO WE JUST WEREN'T COMFORTABLE WITH THE SUCCESS OF THE GOLF COURSE, EVEN IN THE CURRENT YEAR OVER PERFORMING THAT WE WEREN'T GONNA BORROW TOO MUCH MONEY, IF THAT MAKES SENSE. 
          SO WE WANTED TO WAIT UNTIL WE HAVE THAT NUMBER, AND THEN IN NOVEMBER WE CAN AT A MINIMUM COME BACK WITH A REPORT ON, UM, THE PROJECT ISN'T SET TO START UNTIL NOVEMBER 19TH, SO RIGHT. 
          SO BIDS COME BACK AND THEN WE'RE LOOKING AT BREAKING GROUND AND DOING SOME OF THE OUTDOOR WORK YET THIS SEASON TO FINISH IT BEFORE THE COURSE REALLY GETS UNDERWAY NEXT SPRING. 
          THAT'S KIND OF THE TIMELINE OF THE PROJECT. 
          UM, AND SO IT WAS IMPORTANT THAT WE START THIS YEAR AND SO IT, THIS MIGHT BE A LITTLE PREMATURE BECAUSE DEPENDING HOW THIS GOES, WE MIGHT HAVE THIS RESOLUTION ALMOST IMMEDIATELY FOLLOWED BY THE DEBT. 
          YEAH, IT MIGHT, I ARE WE PICKING UP A MONTH IN THERE? THEY'RE A COUPLE WEEKS TYPE OF A DEAL. 
          UM, OKAY. 
          UNLESS THE NUMBERS COME BACK SO FAVORABLE THAT WE'RE REASSESSING THE WHOLE NEED TO BORROW. 
          DON'T HOLD YOUR BREATH ON THAT ONE. 
          . 
          AND I GUESS, UM, KIND OF PUT A POINT ON IT, WHAT YOU'RE LOOKING AT HERE IS THE ABILITY TO, A, GET STARTED A LITTLE BIT MORE ON TIME. 
          UM, B YOU'RE BEING FINANCIALLY PRUDENT BECAUSE YOU BORROW $2 MILLION. 
          YOU CAN'T PREPAY ON THESE LOANS TYPICALLY FOR A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF TIME, SO THEY COST YOU A LOT MORE IN INTEREST PAYMENTS. 
          SO IF YOU WANT TO SAVE MONEY, YOU WANT TO KIND OF NARROW DOWN THE PARAMETERS OF THIS PROJECT, GET IT DOWN TO WHERE, WHAT YOU REALLY NEED. 
          AND THIS WOULD BE A VERY FINANCIAL, FINANCIALLY PRUDENT FOR THE GOLF COURSE ITSELF, NOT EXTENDING ITSELF ANY FURTHER THAN IT HAS TO. 
          SO THAT'S KIND OF THE WAY I SEE THIS. 
          UM, ANYBODY ELSE HAVE ANY COMMENTS ON THIS OR QUESTIONS? SUPERVISOR? MARY? YES. 
          I, I WOULD JUST LIKE TO, TO STRESS, AND WE DID THIS I THINK, UH, SUPERVISOR PRIDE MORE AND I WERE OUT AT THE OPEN HOUSE AT THE GOLF COURSE A FEW WEEKS AGO AND, UH, ONE OF THE STRESS THAT ANY REPORTING ON THIS THAT GOES OUT, MAKE SURE THE PUBLIC UNDERSTANDS THAT THIS IS PAYING FOR ITSELF. 
          THAT THIS IS NOT COMING OFF THE LEVY. 
          THAT THIS, THAT THEY, THE GOLF COURSE IS PROFITABLE, A PROFIT CENTER, SO TO SPEAK UNTO ITSELF. 
          AND THIS IS NOT, YOU KNOW, SOMEBODY WHO'S ANTI SPORTS OR ANTIGO SAYING WHY ARE THEY SPENDING, WHY IS THE COUNTY SPENDING MONEY ON A SPIFF UP THE GOLF COURSE? WELL, THE GOLF COURSE IS SPENDING MONEY TO IMPROVE THE GOLF COURSE, BUT THIS IS NOT PUBLIC FUNDS THAT ARE BEING USED TO THIS. 
          WELL, I GUESS IN THAT SENSE IT IS, BUT IT, BUT IT'S NOT LEVEE FUNDS, RIGHT. 
          THAT ARE USED FOR THIS PROJECT. 
          I THINK THAT NEEDS TO BE STRESSED AND MAKE SURE THE PUBLIC IS AWARE OF THAT THAT IS NOT LEVY FUNDS THAT WE'RE MAKING, JUST BORROWING ON THAT IS A GREAT POINT. 
          SUPERVISOR, MARY. 
          ALL RIGHT. 
          ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? ALL RIGHT. 
          HEARING NONE THEN WE'LL UH, GO AHEAD AND TAKE OUR VOTE. 
          UH, ALL IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE. 
          AYE. 
          AYE. 
          AYE. 
          OPPOSED? AND IT PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. 
          ALRIGHT, WE WILL MOVE ON THEN TO ITEM C GLACIER HILLS RENTAL ANALYSIS REPORT. 
          AND WHO DO WE HAVE MS. LUBECK? UM, YEAH, I WOULD LOVE, I WOULD LOVE TO INTRODUCE ABIGAIL JASINSKI. 
          SO SHE'S BEEN WORKING AS, UH, AN INTERN IN OUR OFFICE AND THIS IS HER CAPSTONE PROJECT. 
          AT THE LAST MEETING SHE ATTENDED TO LEARN MORE ABOUT KIND OF THE COMMITTEES AND THE COUNTY BOARD AND YOU GUYS MENTIONED WANTING MORE DATA ON OUT OF STATE, UM, PARKS. 
          AND SO WE THOUGHT THIS WOULD BE A GOOD, UM, KIND OF CAPSTONE END PROJECT. 
          I THINK HER LAST DAY WITH US IS ON TUESDAY. 
          UM, SO WE APPRECIATE HER TIME IN THE OFFICE AND UM, TAKE IT AWAY. 
          WELL YOUNG LADY, YOU DO REALIZE THIS IS MY CHILDHOOD HOME, RIGHT? SO MAKE IT GOOD. 
          . 
          OKAY. 
          WHAT IF WE WON'T LET YOU LEAVE IT ? WELL, 
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MAYBE I'LL COME BACK DURING WINTER. 
          THAT'D BE GREAT. 
          YES. 
          I'M ABBY JASINSKI. 
          I'M A JUNIOR AT UW GREEN BAY, WHERE I'M STUDYING PUBLIC ADMINISTRATION AND POLITICAL SCIENCE. 
          I'VE BEEN INTERNING IN AN ADMINISTRATIVE POSITION DURING MY TIME AT THE WASHINGTON COUNTY PARKS AND PLANNING OFFICE OVER THE LAST TWO SUMMERS. 
          DURING MY TIME I'VE BEEN HELPING WITH OFFICE WORK WHILE ANSWERING QUESTIONS OVER THE PHONE AND HELPING CUSTOMERS PURCHASE PARK PASSES. 
          I'VE BEEN ASKED TO WRITE REPORTS RELATING TO VISITOR LOCATION INFORMATION BASED ON THE REQUEST FROM LAST MEETING. 
          WE WILL BEGIN WITH THE GLACIER HILLS RENTAL ANALYSIS REPORT. 
          THIS REPORT WILL SHOW THE USAGE AND VISITOR LOCATION DATA FOR THE NINE TINY CABINS AT GLACIER HILLS COUNTY PARK, SECTION ONE GLACIER HILLS RENTAL LOCATION INFORMATION. 
          WHILE LOOKING AT THE FIRST CHART, IT IS IMPORTANT TO NOTE THAT ONLY 61% OF THE RENTALS SHOW VISITOR LOCATION INFORMATION AS AIRBNB USERS ARE NOT REQUIRED TO SHOW LOCATION INFORMATION ON THEIR PROFILES WITHIN THE AVAILABLE LOCATION INFORMATION. 
          HALF OF TINY CABIN RENTERS CAME FROM WISCONSIN. 
          THE NEXT HIGHEST NUMBER OF RENTERS WERE FROM ILLINOIS WITH AN AVERAGE OF 27% OF THE RENTALS BETWEEN 2023 AND 2025. 
          OTHER RENTERS CAME FROM NEARBY STATES SUCH AS MINNESOTA AND INDIANA AND MICHIGAN. 
          IN THE NEXT SECTION TRENDS FOR THE THE TINY CABIN RENTALS, THE SECOND CHART SHOWS THAT THE TOTAL NUMBER OF TINY CABIN RENTALS HAS DECLINED BETWEEN 2023 AND 2025. 
          THE VARIATION OF OUT-OF-STATE VISITORS HAS DECREASED AS WELL. 
          IN SUMMARY, A SIGNIFICANT PORTION OF RENTALS WERE MADE BY ILLINOIS AND WISCONSIN VISITORS. 
          HOWEVER, THE TOTAL NUMBER OF TINY CABIN RENTALS SIGNIFICANTLY DECREASED OVER THE PAST THREE YEARS. 
          IF ANYONE HAS ANY QUESTIONS, I'D BE HAPPY TO ANSWER THEM. 
          OTHERWISE I WILL WAIT UNTIL THE NEXT AGENDA ITEM IS CALLED TO CONTINUE ON TO MY NEXT REPORT. 
          SUPERVISOR PRIDE MORE. 
          UM, YEAH, MY QUESTION IS, I WAS JUST WONDERING, SINCE COVID ERA I NOTICED PEOPLE WERE DURING THE COVID ERA, THEY WERE DOING MORE THINGS THAT WERE OUTDOORS 'CAUSE SO MANY THINGS WERE CLOSED. 
          AND I'M WONDERING IF THAT HAD SOME EFFECT ON THIS. 
          IF YOU HAD ANY CORRELATION AT ALL, UH, IF YOU DID ANY RESEARCH BEFORE THIS. 
          I DIDN'T LOOK AT THAT. 
          NO. 
          GOOD. 
          JUST CURIOUS. 
          OKAY, ANYONE ELSE? SUPERVISOR MARY, IN RESPONSE TO SUPERVISOR PRYOR'S QUESTION, I BELIEVE, LET'S GO BACK THREE OR FOUR YEARS AGO WHEN WE LOOKED AT THE POTENTIAL IMPACT OF COVID AND THE ACTUAL IMPACT OF COVID. 
          AND YES, WE DID SEE A TREMENDOUS AMOUNT OF USAGE OF OUTDOOR FACILITIES AND OUR PARK USAGE HAS SKYROCKETED AT THAT POINT IN TIME. 
          NOW, WHETHER OR NOT THAT'S WORN OFF, I DON'T KNOW, BUT YEAH, IT DID HAVE AN IMPACT, VERY MUCH SO ON THE USAGE OF THE, THE OUTSIDE FACILITIES AT THE PARKS. 
          JUST A FORESHADOW BASED ON THE TINY CABIN RENTALS, THE TRENDS FOR OUR ANNUAL PARK PASSES AND OUR DAILY PARK PASSES IN 2025 ARE VERY DOWN. 
          SO THE, WHAT YOU'RE GONNA SEE IN THE BUDGET IS, IS NOT OPTIMISTIC AS IT RELATES TO THE USER FEE REVENUES FOR ALL. 
          AND WE DON'T KNOW EXACTLY WHAT IT IS, BUT ALL OF THOSE THINGS AND INDIVIDUAL, WE'RE KIND OF BOILING IT BACK TO OUR DATA. 
          PEOPLE ARE BOILING IT BACK TO INDIVIDUAL CHOICE. 
          SO, UM, THAT'LL, YOU'LL SEE THAT IN THE NUMBERS PRESENTED TO YOU IN SEPTEMBER OR OCTOBER. 
          YEAH, I, UM, AND I WOULD CONCUR WITH SUPERVISOR MARY THAT, UH, UNDER COVID THERE WAS LESS CHOICES AND EVEN WITH LESS CHOICES, THERE WAS LESS PEOPLE WHO WANTED TO BE AROUND GROUPS OF PEOPLE. 
          AND THE PARKS, UH, KIND OF GAVE YOU THAT ABILITY TO, UH, TAKE ADVANTAGE OF, OF CAMPING AND SWIMMING AND STUFF LIKE THAT TO GET THAT SEPARATION THAT WE WERE DOING AT THE TIME. 
          SO I THINK IT WAS JUST THE, THE RIGHT FACILITY AT THE RIGHT TIME WHEN IT CAME TO COVID. 
          BUT NOW PEOPLE ARE REJOINING, UH, THE SOCIETY AND, AND GETTING OUT TO OUR PUBLIC PLACES MORE SO THAT WE'LL DILUTE, UH, WHAT THE PARKS ARE ARE RECEIVING AND, AND WE HAVE TO CHANGE OUR PLANS, UH, TO UH, TRY AND FIGURE OUT WHAT THAT DILUTION IS. 
          SO YOUR, UH, WORK HERE IS, WILL HELP TO, UH, SHOW US THE WAY AND, UH, WHERE WHAT WE CAN DO MOVING FORWARD. 
          SO I THANK YOU FOR YOUR GREAT WORK. 
          THANK YOU. 
          WITH THAT, UH, I GUESS WE CAN MOVE ON TO THE NEXT THING OR IS THERE SOMETHING ELSE? I WAS JUST GONNA SAY ABBY'S GOT ONE MORE. 
          OH, SHE'S GOT MORE FELLOWSHIP. 
          OH, I'M SORRY. 
          MY APOLOGIES. 
          GO RIGHT AHEAD. 
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SO NOW WE'RE GONNA LOOK AT DAILY AND ANNUAL PARK PASS PURCHASE INFORMATION. 
          THIS WILL BREAK DOWN VISITORS BY COUNTY AND STATE TO SHOW WHERE PARK USERS ARE COMING FROM. 
          WE WILL START BY LOOKING AT ANNUAL PASSES. 
          THE FIRST CHART IS BROKEN DOWN BY COUNTY. 
          IT SHOWS THAT THE MAJORITY OF ANNUAL PARK PASS PURCHASERS ARE FROM WASHINGTON COUNTY, WISCONSIN, FOLLOWED BY OZAKI, WAUKESHA AND MILWAUKEE COUNTIES. 
          LOOKING AT THE NEXT PAGE, THE SECOND CHART IS SEPARATED BY STATE. 
          WHILE LOOKING AT THE SECOND CHART, IT IS IMPORTANT TO NOTE THAT ONLY THE TOP HALF REPRESENTS AROUND 1% OF THE DATA. 
          LESS THAN 1% OF ANNUAL PASSES WERE PURCHASED BY OUT-OF-STATE VISITORS. 
          WISCONSIN VISITORS CONSISTENTLY PURCHASED AROUND 99% OF ANNUAL PARK PASSES. 
          MOST OUT-OF-STATE VISITORS ARE FROM NEARBY STATES, INCLUDING MINNESOTA AND ILLINOIS. 
          OTHERWISE, VISITORS CAME FROM AN IRREGULAR COLLECTION OF STATES OR CANADA. 
          NEXT, WE'LL LOOK AT DAILY PARK PASSES WHILE LOOKING AT DAILY PARK PASSES, PARK PASS PURCHASES. 
          THE ANALYSIS CANNOT INCLUDE RECENT DAILY VISITOR LOCATION INFORMATION DUE TO THE REMOVAL OF ZIP CODE, THE ZIP CODE ENTRY REQUIREMENT IN 2024. 
          HOWEVER, THIS WAS ADDED AGAIN IN 2025. 
          SO FUTURE ANALYSIS IS POSSIBLE. 
          LOOKING AT STATE INFORMATION ON CHART THREE, WE CAN SEE THAT RESIDENTS PURCHASED MOST DAILY PASSES AS WELL WITH AN AVERAGE OF AROUND 95% BETWEEN 2020 AND 2023. 
          WHILE THE PERCENTAGE IS SMALL, ILLINOIS AND MINNESOTA RESIDENTS PURCHASED THE HIGHEST INDIVIDUAL AMOUNT OF OUT-OF-STATE DAILY PARK PASSES WHEN BROKEN DOWN BY COUNTY UN CHART FOUR ON THE NEXT PAGE. 
          NEARBY COUNTIES PURCHASED AROUND TWO THIRDS OF DAILY PARK PASSES COMPARED TO WASHINGTON COUNTY'S ONE THIRD. 
          AGAIN, THESE PURCHASES ARE MADE FROM NEARBY COUNTIES, INCLUDING WAUKESHA, FOND LAC, DODGE, OZAKI, AND MILWAUKEE. 
          IN SUMMARY, OUT-OF-STATE PARK PASS PURCHASES WERE MINIMAL COMPARED TO IN-STATE PURCHASES. 
          MOST ANNUAL PASSES WERE PURCHASED BY WASHINGTON COUNTY RESIDENTS WHILE OTHER WISCONSIN COUNTY RESIDENTS PURCHASED MORE DAILY PARK PASSES. 
          OVERALL, THIS ANALYSIS SUGGESTS THAT IF THE WASHINGTON COUNTY PARKS WERE TO RAISE DAILY ENTRANCE FEES, IT MIGHT BE LESS IMPACTFUL ON WASHINGTON COUNTY RESIDENTS WITH A POTENTIAL TO BRING IN MORE USER FEES. 
          USE QUESTIONS, COMMENTS, SUPERVISOR? MARY, GO AHEAD. 
          JUST, UH, TAKING THE INFORMATION, THANK YOU FOR PULLING THIS TOGETHER. 
          UH, FROM A MARKETING STANDPOINT, AND I DON'T KNOW TO WHAT DEGREE WE GO OUT TO OUTSIDE OF THE AREA IN TERMS OF SOLICITING OR TELLING EVERYBODY ABOUT, HEY, COME TO WASHINGTON COUNTY, WE'VE GOT SOME GREAT PLACES FOR YOU TO EXPLORE. 
          UH, THE ANNUAL PARK PASS IS SOLD BY STATE, I THINK IS INFORMATIVE AND THEN IT GIVES US A PARTICULAR DIRECTION ON WHERE TO, WHERE TO FOCUS IF WE'RE GOING TO DO SUCH A THING. 
          UH, I WOULD SUGGEST TO CHICAGO, SUBURBAN AREAS, SUBURBAN AREAS, UH, AND I WAS VERY SURPRISED TO SEE THE NUMBERS OUT OF MINNESOTA WITH ALL THE RECREATIONAL OPPORTUNITIES THAT ARE, THAT EXIST THERE. 
          BUT, UM, I JUST THINK FROM A MARKETING STANDPOINT, THIS IS VERY INFORMATIONAL TO HAVE VERY GOOD INFORMATION TO HAVE. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU. 
          SUPERVISOR PRIDE MOORE, UH, WHAT IS THE, UM, DAILY PARK PASS? I DON'T EVEN KNOW WHAT THE COST OF TO GET OURS FROM THE VETERANS. 
          IT'S $7. 
          $7? YES. 
          FOR DAILY. 
          FOR DAILY. 
          SO THAT'S WHAT, 35 FOR ANNUAL? IT'S 35 FOR A RESIDENT AND THEN 50 FOR A NON-RESIDENT. 
          AND THEN WE HAVE A SENIOR PASS FOR 25. 
          OKAY. 
          AND I WOULD NOTE FOR OUR DISCUSSION THAT THAT IS PROBABLY ONE OF THE FINEST DEALS THERE ARE IN ENTERTAINMENT VALUE, UH, BECAUSE OF THE FACT THAT, YOU KNOW, WE DON'T CARE HOW MANY KIDS YOU PACK INTO THAT CAR. 
          SO FOR THAT SAME $50 OR EVEN $35 AND YOU'RE TAKING, YOU KNOW, 10 KIDS TO THE SWIMMING HOLE, UH, AND ALL DAY HIKING ON THE TRAILS AND YOU KNOW, I MEAN, WHERE ELSE ARE YOU GOING FOR THAT KIND OF MONEY FOR ONE DAY AND IT'S UNLIMITED AND, AND ALL YEAR LONG. 
          SO, UH, I STILL SAY THAT THE, THE PARK PASS IS ONE OF THE BEST VALUES, UH, IN THE STATE ON ENTERTAINMENT, UH, ESPECIALLY WITH OUR PARKS. 
          I MEAN THE BEAUTY OF OUR PARKS, THE, THE DOG PARKS, THE FRISBEE GOLF, THE MOUNTAIN BIKE TRAILS, ALL THE ACTIVITIES AND STUFF THAT WE DO, ALL THE EVENTS THAT WE PLAN, IT'S JUST A NO BRAINER. 
          GO GET A PARK PASS. 
          UM, ALRIGHT, ANYTHING ELSE? WE'RE ALL GOOD. 
          ALRIGHT, THANK YOU VERY MUCH. 
          WE APPRECIATE YOUR HARD WORK AND YOUR INTERNSHIP WITH US AND GOOD LUCK. 
          THANK YOU. 
          OKAY, PRESENTATION DISCUSSION. 
          CEDAR CREEK FARMERS UPDATE AND GRANT APPLICATION. 
          UH, MS. LUDOVIC, WHO IS PRESENTING TODAY? THIS WOULD BE OUR COUNTY CONSERVATIONIST, PAUL BKI. 
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ALRIGHT, THIS IS MY NEIGHBOR, PAUL . 
          THANK YOU CHAIRMAN KELLY. 
          ALL RIGHT, SO I'LL GIVE YOU A, A KIND OF A BRIEF INTERVIEW KIND OF OVERVIEW OF WHAT CEDAR CREEK FARMERS HAS BEEN UP TO OVER THE COURSE OF THIS YEAR. 
          AND THIS TIES BACK INTO THE COMMITTEE REPORT REGARDING THE, UH, $40,000 CARRYOVER REQUEST THAT'S FROM THE UNDERSPENDING AND THE CONSERVATION ACCOUNT. 
          SO TO KIND OF TO DIVE INTO THIS, I'VE GOT A COUPLE SLIDES HERE JUST TO GIVE YOU A QUICK OVERVIEW IS SHOWING YOU WHY KIND OF THE WORK OF CEDAR CREEK FARMERS? I FIND THEM TO BE IMPORTANT IS YOU LOOK AT THE PICTURE THAT I GOT HERE IS IT SHOWS NO-TILL FIELD. 
          THAT'S THE PRACTICES THAT CEDAR CREEK FARMERS IS PROMOTING. 
          AND THEN THERE'S THE TILLED FIELD, WHICH IS KIND OF THE MORE TRADITIONAL WAY OF FARMING. 
          AND YOU CAN SEE THERE'S TWO BIG DIFFERENCES THAT I GET POINT OUT HERE. 
          AS YOU CAN SEE THAT THERE'S JUST A LOT MORE WATER LEAVING THE FIELD FROM THE TILLED FIELD VERSUS THE NO-TILL FIELD. 
          AND GENERALLY THE WATER IS CLEANER. 
          SO WHEN WE HAVE LARGE RAIN EVENTS LIKE WE HAD, IT KEEPS MORE OF THE SOIL ON THE GROUND AND IT KEEPS MORE OF THE WATER SOAKING INTO THE GROUND TO KEEP 'EM OFF OF OUR ROADS AND KEEP IT OUT OF OUR BASEMENTS. 
          SO, AND SOME OF THE STUFF THEY WERE UP TO THIS YEAR, THEY'VE HELD A COUPLE EDUCATIONAL EVENTS WITH, THE FIRST ONE WAS HELD AT THE LOFI FARM IN RICHFIELD WHERE WE HAD 82 PEOPLE ATTENDED. 
          THAT ONE OCCURRED WAY BACK IN FEBRUARY. 
          LIKE I SAID, THAT'S PRETTY GOOD ATTENDANCE FOR US. 
          EVERYONE WAS PACKED IN THERE AND EVERYONE GOT SOME, I THINK SOME PRETTY GOOD TAKE HOME TOPICS OUT OF IT. 
          AND THIS EVENT IS WHERE CEDAR CREEK FARMERS WAS AT BREAKFAST ON THE FARM THIS YEAR. 
          AND IT WAS HOSTED AT ONE OF OUR ACTIVE BOARD MEMBERS FOR, AT THE PETERS FARM. 
          AND UH, THE IDEA THAT THE GROUP HAD WAS TO, UH, HAVE WAGON RIDES THAT CIRCLED AROUND THE FARM, HIGHLIGHTING SOME OF THE GOOD PRACTICES THAT ARE OCCURRING ON THE PETERS FARM IS WHERE I THINK EVEN US GETTING INTO THE DAY, WE DIDN'T KNOW HOW WELL THIS WAS GONNA GO. 
          WE HAD THREE TRACTORS RUNNING NONSTOP FOR FOUR AND A HALF HOURS. 
          WE DIDN'T GET A GOOD HEADCOUNT TO HOW MANY PEOPLE CAME THROUGH, BUT JUST KIND OF ESTIMATING THE LOOP OF THE TRACTOR AND HOW MANY PEOPLE WE WERE CRAMMING ON EACH ONE WAS, WE THINK WE HAD ABOUT 1300 PEOPLE THAT WE KIND OF TAUGHT THAT DAY. 
          AND I THINK, I THINK ALL OF US, I KNOW BY THE END OF THE DAY I COULD BARELY TALK ANYMORE. 
          I WAS TRYING TO TALK OVER A TRACTOR ON A CONSTANT LOOP AND YEAH, I WAS, I WAS HOARSE AND COULD BARELY TALK. 
          SO I KNOW WE HAD STICKERS. 
          YOU CAN SEE THE TOP LEFT PHOTO THERE SHOWED A HAPPY FAMILY WHERE EVERYONE GOT THEIR STICKERS AND THE KIDS WERE PLOW PROBABLY WEARING THEM. 
          SO, AND OUR MOST RECENT EVENT IS AT THE ROADIN FARM THAT'S JUST A LITTLE SOUTH OF NEWBURGH. 
          WE HAD WHAT WE CALL OUR COOKOUT SOCIAL, WHICH IS MOSTLY, MOSTLY STRICTLY JUST TRYING TO STICK TO THE FARM COMMUNITY, JUST HAVING THE FARM COMMUNITY THERE. 
          WE HAVE LIKE A LIGHT PRESENTATION, A DINNER, AND JUST MORE OF AN OPPORTUNITY FOR EVERYONE TO GET TOGETHER. 
          AND NETWORK IS, WE ESTIMATED ABOUT, WE HAD ABOUT 63 PEOPLE ATTENDED THAT ONE. 
          UH, ONE OF OUR LAST EVENTS FOR THE YEAR COMING UP IS AT THE, THE ROSS AND MARCY BISHOP FARM IS WE'RE GONNA BE HOSTING, UM, A LITTLE EVENT THAT'S GONNA BE HIGHLIGHTING SOME OF THE PRACTICES. 
          HE'S DOING, SPECIFICALLY SOME PRAIRIE STRIPS WHERE HE IS GOT SOME NATURAL PRAIRIES THAT ARE IN BETWEEN ON HIS CROP LAND. 
          THAT, AND SOME, I THINK SOME OF THE STUFF THAT HE'S DOING AT THAT. 
          AND KIND OF GOING AHEAD, LOOKING AT WHAT THE GROUP IS PLANNING ON DOING FOR, FOR 2026 AND BEYOND IS CURRENTLY, IF YOU LOOK ON THE LEFT SIDE, IS THAT'S THEIR CURRENT PROJECT AREA. 
          IT'S MORE FOCUSED ON THE CENTER OF THE COUNTY IN WHAT WE CALL THE CEDAR CREEK WATERSHED. 
          THE GROUP DECIDED THAT OVER TIME IS THAT THEY WERE LET, PRETTY MUCH THEY'RE INVITING THEIR EDUCATIONAL VETS, WE'RE LETTING EVERYONE GO TO IS NOW WE'RE GONNA A LITTLE MORE OFFICIALLY KIND OF SAY WE'RE, WE'RE MORE OF A COUNTYWIDE GROUP AND SHOWING THE WATERSHEDS THAT REP MORE REPRESENT THAT, UH, SEE ON THE MAP THAT THERE'S A KIND OF A HOLE ON THE RIGHT, THE MAP ON THE RIGHT SIDE SHOWING A HOLE IN THE SOUTHWEST PART OF THE COUNTY IN LIKE THE AARON RICHFIELD SOUTHERN PART OF, UH, OF UH, HARTFORD IS THERE'S ACTUALLY ANOTHER ACTIVE PRODUCER LED WATERSHED GROUP SIMILAR TO WHAT CEDAR CREEK FARMERS DOES CALLED FARMERS FOR LAKE COUNTRY AND THEY'RE ACTIVE IN THAT AREA. 
          SO IT WAS KIND OF DECIDED THAT WE WOULDN'T BE OVERLAPPING THAT EVENT, BUT WE'D STILL WANT TO BE COLLABORATING WITH THAT GROUP. 
          KIND OF SIMILAR HOW WE CURRENTLY DO, AND THE OTHER BIG CHANGES, AND THIS IS WHAT'S TIED TO, UH, KIND OF THE REASON WHY WE'RE ASKING FOR THE CARRYOVER REQUEST, IS THE GROUP IS LOOKING AT BRINGING AN INCENTIVE PROGRAM TO HELP TRY AND ENCOURAGE OTHER FARMERS TO ADOPT SOME OF THE SAME PRACTICES THAT THEY DO, WHICH I KNOW THIS IS MANY OF THE SAME PRACTICES THAT, UH, MR. DO KNOCKER HAS ADOPTED ON HIS FARM TOO, WITH HIS, WITH HIS SON, IS WE'RE TRYING TO ENCOURAGE MORE NO-TILL PLANTING KIND OF NOT TAKING KIND OF THAT CLASSIC PLOW GOING OUT THE FIELD, TURNING OVER, JUST 
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DIRECTLY PLANTING THE CROP INTO THE STUBBLE FROM THE PREVIOUS YEAR. 
          UH, PLANTING CROPS IN BETWEEN CROPS, WHICH WE ALSO REFER TO AS COVER CROPS. 
          AND THEN ALSO, UH, PLANTING YOUR CROP DIRECTLY INTO A GREEN AND GROWING CROP AND THEN TRYING TO KILL THAT AFTERWARDS. 
          SO, LIKE I SAID, WE'RE TRYING TO BUILD OUT INCENTIVE PROGRAM. 
          I JUST, THE GROUP, A SUBSET OF THE GROUP MET YESTERDAY. 
          WE'RE TRYING TO HAMMER OUT SOME OF THESE DETAILS AND WE'RE, WE'RE REALLY GEARING UP TRYING TO OFFER THIS FOR NEXT YEAR. 
          AND I SAID OUR GOAL WITH THE CARRYOVER REQUEST IS TO BE ABLE TO TAKE THE 10,000 A YEAR FOR THREE YEARS TO BE ABLE TO HELP INCENTIVIZE AND PUT TOGETHER PACKAGE THAT TOGETHER WITH A GRANT WE'D SEND OFF TO THE DEPARTMENT OF AGRICULTURE TRADE AND CONSUMER PRODUCTION TO TRY AND TAKE THE 10,000 AND TURN IT INTO 20,000 THAT WE CAN TAKE OUT AND HELP MORE PEOPLE WITH THAT. 
          SO, GOT A QUICK QUESTION, CHAIRMAN. 
          NO, NO, NO. 
          SORRY. 
          I'LL JUST KEEP GOING. 
          UH, TO HELP FACILITATE THIS, WE RECENTLY HIRED A, ANOTHER CONSERVATION SPECIALIST IN OUR OFFICE. 
          HIS NAME IS ROBERT AUER, AND HE'S BEEN CLOSELY WORKING WITH THE GROUP. 
          I KNOW WE'LL BE WORKING WITH TANDEM AND KIND OF HELPING ROLL OUT SOME OF THESE NEW INITIATIVES AND PROGRAMS WITH THE GROUP. 
          SO, AND ANOTHER QUICK PLUG IS I'VE BEEN PLANNING THE SOUTHEAST AREA FALL CONSERVATION TOUR WITH, UH, SUPERVISOR MARY, AND IT'S COMING UP OCTOBER 2ND. 
          AND WE'RE GONNA BE HITTING ON A COUPLE OF THESE TOPICS THAT I, I QUICKLY WENT OVER AS PART OF MY PRESENTATION HERE TODAY, AND I KNOW WE'LL GET MORE INFORMATION OUT THERE AND HOPEFULLY IF, HOPEFULLY YOU GUYS WILL BE ABLE TO ATTEND TOO. 
          SO I KNOW I WENT THROUGH THAT PRETTY QUICK, SO, AND HOPEFULLY FIND THOROUGH. 
          BUT IF YOU GUYS, IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, FEEL FREE TO LET ME KNOW OR IF ANY MORE DETAIL TOO ON THE COMMITTEE REPORT. 
          ALL RIGHT. 
          UH, SUPERVISOR KREBS. 
          THANK YOU. 
          UM, QUESTION ON THE GRANT PORTION OF IT, IT SAYS THAT THE GRANT IS CAPPED AT 40,000 MM-HMM . 
          WITH A ONE-TO-ONE MATCH AND WE'RE LOOKING AT CARRYING OVER 40,000. 
          YEP. 
          SO THAT WOULD THEN, IF WE WERE BE GRANTED THE FULL GRANT MM-HMM . 
          UH, IT WOULD BE 80 80,000. 
          YES. 
          OKAY. 
          BUT THERE'S A COUPLE CAVEATS TO THAT IS I DON'T LIKE, PART OF IT TOO IS I CAN SHOW THERE I NEED A CASH CONTRIBUTION, WHAT WE CALL IN KIND AND IN KIND CAN BE LIKE STAFF TIME AND OTHER DONATIONS WE MAY RECEIVE. 
          AND WE ALL GOING INTO THIS. 
          WE ALSO KNOW THAT THERE'S, THAT EVERY GROUP ASKS FOR 40,000, BUT THEY GET A PRORATED VERSION OF THAT DOWN TOO. 
          SO THAT'S, SO JUST TO CLARIFY, WE ARE ASKING FOR A $40,000 CARRYOVER. 
          WE WOULD USE $10,000 OF THAT CASH EACH YEAR FOR THREE YEARS FOR THE GRANT BECAUSE THERE'S CASH FROM THE COUNTY, PLUS THERE'S DONORS. 
          MM-HMM . 
          PLUS THERE'S IN KIND TO EQUAL A $40,000 APPLICATION IN 2025. 
          SO WE AREN'T USING THAT FULL AMOUNT IN ONE YEAR. 
          THAT'S GOING TO KIND OF FUND THAT FUTURE PILOT PROGRAM FOR THREE YEARS. 
          THE APPLICATION FOR THREE YEARS, AND THEN THE REMAINDER BALANCE IS FOR ORG POTENTIAL ORGANIZATIONAL CHANGES THAT WE MIGHT BE BRINGING FORWARD RELATED TO THE ORGANIZATION OF THE GROUP ITSELF. 
          OKAY. 
          SO WHAT I WAS GETTING AT WAS IS YES, IF, IF IT'S, IF WE DON'T GET PRORATED, IF WE WOULD ACHIEVE FULL GRANT AMOUNT MM-HMM . 
          WE HAVE UP TO 80,000, BUT WE'RE TALKING, THE NEXT PARAGRAPH SAYS ABOUT 10,000 A YEAR WOULD BE MADE AVAILABLE FOR UTILIZING TO MATCH THE GRANT. 
          MM-HMM . 
          ARE WE STILL, SO WOULD THE SPENDING PER YEAR BE AT 20,000, LIKE THE, THE 10,000 PLUS THE 10,000 OF GRANT, THE 10,000 IS GONNA BE POOLED WITH OTHER, LIKE THEY GET PRIVATE DONORS APPROXIMATELY 10,000 A YEAR. 
          COMBINE THAT WITH THE 10,000 FROM THE COUNTY'S CONTRIBUTION, AND THEN IDEALLY WE'D BE ABLE TO FIND ANOTHER 20,000 IN KIND OR OTHER SOURCES TO BE ABLE TO HAVE WHAT WE'RE APPLYING FOR SHOWING THE 40,000 TO MATCH WITH THE $40,000 REQUEST FROM THE STATE. 
          IN, IN IDEAL WORLD, THE PROGRAM WAS FULLY FUNDED. 
          YEAH. 
          THAT WOULD BRING US 80,000. 
          SO THE FUTURE INCORPORATION, THE FI THE FISCAL EFFECT NOTE, THEN A FUTURE INCORPORATION AND A 40,000 CARRYOVER REQUEST. 
          MM-HMM . 
          SO THAT'S ASSUMING IF WE WOULD GET THE 40,000 THAT IN 2025, THEN WE WOULD BE CARRYING OVER FOR THOSE FUTURE YEARS. 
          HOW IT'S PRORATED OUT OR HOW WE'RE PRORATED THE SPENDING OF IT. 
          IS THAT WHAT I THINK WHAT THE, WHAT THE 40,000 ALLUDES TO IS, UM, ESSENTIALLY WE'RE TAKING THE, THE, WE'RE TAKING THE SAVINGS THAT WERE GENERATED THIS YEAR. 
          WE'RE GONNA MOVE THEM TO WE A BUDGET LINE ITEM SO THAT WE DON'T SPEND IT. 
          AND THEN YOU'LL SEE ON THE CARRYOVER REQUEST NEXT SPRING, WE'RE GONNA TAKE 40,000 FROM THAT LINE ITEM AND WE'RE GONNA REQUEST THAT WE CARRY IT OVER. 
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SO THIS IS KIND OF FORESHADOWING THAT. 
          AND THEN OF THAT 40,000, WHAT THIS IS SAYING IS THAT THE 10,000 PER YEAR WILL BE COMBINED WITH, UM, ADDITIONAL THE, THE, THE ADDITIONAL REVENUES THAT THEY'RE TALKING ABOUT. 
          AND THEN THESE IN-KIND SOURCES, WHICH ESSENTIALLY MEANS THE CA THE, THE EXPENSES WE WERE GONNA MAKE ANYWAY, WE CAN CLAIM AGAINST THIS GRANT. 
          AND SO THAT'S WHERE WE WOULD LOOK TO, YOU KNOW, ACHIEVE UP TO THAT 40,000 GRANT PER YEAR, BUT ONLY SPEND 10,000 OF THESE PROCEEDS FOR THOSE THREE YEARS. 
          OKAY. 
          THANK YOU. 
          SURE. 
          ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? RALPH? DOOR KNOCKER? I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A COMMENT. 
          I MEAN, MY SON ALLEN HAS DONE QUITE A BIT TO THIS AND COVER CROPS AND DOING THINGS ON THERE REALLY HELP THE EROSION, THE WATER FILTERS DOWN, IT FILTERS BETTER, YOU DON'T HAVE TO TO RUN OFF AND, UH, YOU GOT BETTER CROPS. 
          MM-HMM . 
          THANK YOU, MR. AKA, UH, SUPERVISOR. 
          MARY, I WOULD ENCOURAGE ALL OF YOU TO PAY ATTENTION WHEN YOU GET THE INVITATION FOR THE OCTOBER 2ND EVENT BECAUSE THE SLIDE THAT WAS JUST UP THERE, THAT'S WHERE WE'RE GOING TO BE. 
          UH, THAT'S AT, UH, THE BISHOP FARM. 
          UH, IT'S ON MARC ON HIGHWAY D, NORTH OF GERMANTOWN. 
          AND WE NEED TO HAVE, UH, MARCY TAKE ANOTHER PICTURE OF THAT WHEN THEY GOT THE LIGHTS UP ON THE SADDLE FILLER PIPE. 
          'CAUSE IT LOOKS LIKE A, A GIANT LIT CANDY CANE. 
          THEY HAVE THEM LIT UP AT THE WINTER TIME. 
          SO, BUT COME AND JOIN US ON OCTOBER 2ND. 
          OKAY. 
          VERY GOOD PLAN ON CALENDAR. 
          SO JUST ASK, UH, HOW IS, WHAT'S, WHAT'S YOU ADDRESS THAT IT, OH, I'M SORRY. 
          UH, SUPERVISOR . 
          OH, THANK YOU CHAIR. 
          YEAH, I WOULD JUST, UM, LIKE TO MAKE A COMMENT TO THE, YOU KNOW, I, I AM IN, IN SUPPORT OF THIS, I SEE THAT THE CITY CREEK FARMERS TOO, THEIR, YOU KNOW, AND THEY INVEST SO MUCH ALREADY AND ADDED, UM, INVESTED IN ADDING A, A POSITION AND THIS, YOU KNOW, ENDS UP TRULY SUPPORTING OUR QUALITY OF LIFE IN WASHINGTON COUNTY. 
          YOU KNOW, GOING DOWN TO OUR WATER SOURCES AND EVERYTHING, LIKE THEY, YOU KNOW, KIND OF HIGHLIGHT IT JUST A LITTLE BIT IN THOSE IMAGES. 
          AND I THINK THIS TOO WOULD HELP, YOU KNOW, SUPPORT ON THE FARMERS WHO ARE SIGNING UP FOR THE FARMLAND PRESERVATION TOO, TO HELP THEM MEET THOSE REQUIREMENTS OF THE STATE IN ORDER TO, UM, RECEIVE THE FUNDS AND, AND FORMALLY, YOU KNOW, SIGN UP FOR THE FARMLAND PRESERVATION. 
          THANK YOU VERY MUCH. 
          UH, ERIN, SO THEN FOR THIS ASK, THIS WOULD JUST BE, UH, AS A MATTER OF THE BUDGET AND WOULD BE PRESENTED AT BUDGET TIME, BUT THIS WOULD, WHERE WHAT WE'RE LOOKING FOR IS, IS THIS A THUMBS UP KIND OF THING? WHAT ARE WE, SO THERE, THERE IS NO ACTION. 
          THIS WILL COME IN YOUR BUDGET AND IT WILL ALSO COME VIA THAT CARRYOVER REQUEST. 
          BUT THE DAD CAP GRANT IS DUE IN SEPTEMBER. 
          SO WHAT WE ARE GOING TO DO IS WE'RE GOING TO APPLY WITH THIS STRATEGY, WE CAN ALWAYS REJECT THE MONEY SHOULD IT NOT BE MM-HMM . 
          FUNDED IN THE BUDGET OR THE CARRYOVER REQUEST DENIED. 
          SO WE JUST WANTED TO, BECAUSE WE'RE GOING TO BE PUTTING FORWARD THAT APPLICATION THAT SHOWS A MATCH THAT TECHNICALLY WE DON'T HAVE YET. 
          WE WANTED TO SHARE IT WITH THE COMMITTEE. 
          IF THERE ARE ANY MAJOR OBJECTIVE OBJECTIONS TO THIS STRATEGY, UM, WE WOULD WANNA, YOU KNOW, VOICE THEM SO WE CAN RECONSIDER. 
          BUT AT THIS POINT, THIS IS REALLY JUST AN INFORMATION ITEM ON THIS IS THE PLAN. 
          ALRIGHT. 
          SUPERVISOR MARY? YEAH, JUST A CLARIFICATION DAT CAP, UH, IS THE DEPARTMENT OF AGRICULTURE, TRADE AND CONSUMER PROTECTION. 
          THAT'S THE STATE AG AGENCY SORT OF THE MOST, IF YOU DIDN'T UNDERSTAND WHAT THAT WAS, I LOVE IT WHEN PEOPLE CLARIFY THE ANAGRAMS 'CAUSE THAT DRIVES ME CRAZY. 
           OH, THE TPS REPORTS AND THE UGH, . 
          SO VERY GOOD. 
          THANK YOU, SIR. 
          I APPRECIATE THAT. 
          UM, OKAY, SO I GUESS, UH, WE'RE LOOKING FOR ANY OBJECTIONS, ANYBODY AT THE COMMITTEE HERE HAVE ANY PARTICULAR OBJECTION TO THIS ITEM? I CERTAINLY DO NOT. 
          SO I WOULD CONSIDER THAT TO BE A PRETTY MUCH A THUMBS UP. 
          UH, THANK YOU. 
          WE APPRECIATE YOUR WORK MR. BACKUS. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THANKS. 
          ALL RIGHT. 
          BIENNIUM BUDGET BRIEFINGS RELATIVE TO, TO CPAC. 
          THANK YOU. 
          I WILL TAKE THIS. 
          UM, FOR THE PEOPLE WATCHING JAMIE LUDOVIC, CHIEF COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT OFFICER WITH WASHINGTON COUNTY. 
          WHAT YOU HAVE BEFORE YOU IN TONIGHT'S AGENDA IS TWO, UM, BUDGET POLICY RELATED ITEMS. UM, ALL OF THE COMMITTEES ACROSS THE COUNTY ARE GETTING BUDGET 
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BRIEFINGS FROM THE RESPECTIVE CABINETS OF ITEMS THAT ARE OF SIGNIFICANT POLICY IMPLICATIONS. 
          SO THE LAND USE AND PLANNING COMMITTEE IS NOT UNIQUE. 
          UM, THERE ARE A NUMBER OF THESE ACROSS THE COUNTY. 
          THEY WILL, UH, THE EXECUTIVE COMMITTEE WILL BE GETTING KIND OF AN OVERVIEW OF ALL OF THEM, AND THEN THEY WILL EVENTUALLY SHOW UP IN THE COUNTY EXECUTIVES RECOMMENDED BUDGET WHEN IT COMES TO THE COMMITTEE. 
          THE, UM, I THAT'S IMPORTANT TO NOTE BECAUSE WE ARE NOT LOOKING FOR ANY ACTION TONIGHT. 
          WE ARE JUST SIMPLY TRYING TO GIVE A PRECURSOR TO THE DISCUSSION AND MAKE SURE THAT THERE IS SIGNIFICANT TIME, UM, FOR THE COMMITTEE AND THE COUNTY BOARD TO GET ANY INPUT, COMMENTS, QUESTIONS, DATA REQUESTS, THOUGHTS IN ORDER, IN ORDER TO MAKE AN INFORMED DECISION AND HAVE A PRODUCTIVE BUDGET CONVERSATION LATER THIS FALL. 
          ON THAT FRONT, I WILL ALSO ADD THAT WE DID, I DID PERSONALLY NOTIFY ALL OF THE CHIEF ELECTED OFFICIALS, UM, AS WELL AS THE LAKE DISTRICTS THAT WE HAD CONTACT INFORMATION FOR. 
          AND THE COUNTY'S THREE LAND TRUSTS, UM, OF THIS ITEM ON THE AGENDA TONIGHT. 
          UM, NOTING THAT SIMILAR THAT THEY, THIS IS A CONVERSATION WE WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY WERE AWARE OF BECAUSE THEY ARE ALL STAKEHOLDERS OF OUR PARTICIPATION IN THE REGIONAL PLAN COMMISSION AMONG OTHER THINGS. 
          UM, IT ACTUALLY TRIGGERED OUR CHIEF PUBLIC WORKS OFFICER TO SEND SOME STAKEHOLDER NOTIFICATION EMAILS, UM, BECAUSE HE HAD SIMILAR, UM, SIMILAR STAKEHOLDERS IN THE TOWNS WITH REGARDS TO SOME OF HIS BRIDGE AID AND CULVERT AID ITEMS THAT HE WAS CONSIDERING TALKING TO WITH HIS COMMITTEE. 
          UM, SO WHAT WE HAVE BEFORE YOU IS TWO, UM, THE FIRST ONE WE'RE GONNA TALK ABOUT IS THE, UM, COUNTY'S PARTICIPATION IN THE REGIONAL PLAN COMMISSION, WHICH, UM, THERE WAS A LOT OF INFORMATION PROVIDED IN YOUR PACKET. 
          I HOPE YOU HAD A CHANCE TO READ IT. 
          I AM NOT GOING TO GO THROUGH ALL OF IT, BUT I AM GOING TO GO THROUGH A FEW OF THE HIGHLIGHTS BECAUSE WE REALLY WANTED TO POINT OUT, UM, THERE IS A LOT OF, THIS IS A VERY, UM, INTRICATE, UH, PARTICIPATION THAT WE HAVE IN THE REGIONAL PLAN COMMISSION AND THE SERVICES THAT THEY PROVIDE, THE COUNTY AS WELL AS THE OTHER STAKEHOLDERS ARE, ARE VAST AND THEY, THEY TOUCH A LOT OF DIFFERENT, UM, PLACES IN THE REGION, PEOPLE THINGS. 
          UM, IN TERMS OF THE IMPLICATIONS, UM, WE HAVE NOT ANSWERED ALL OF THE QUESTIONS REGARDING THIS. 
          I KNOW SEWER PAC, UM, STEPHANIE, AS WELL AS HER TEAM ARE HERE TODAY. 
          THEY'RE EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR, UM, WHICH IS AWESOME. 
          THEY HAVE BEEN GREAT PARTNERS IN TERMS OF THE CONVERSATION, PROVIDING SEVERAL OF THE MEMOS THAT ARE IN YOUR PACKET. 
          UM, THE FIRST ITEM THAT WAS IN YOUR PACKET WAS THEIR BUDGET FOR 2026, THEIR INCREASED LEVEE REQUEST AS WELL AS IT GOES THROUGH THEIR PROGRAM AREAS. 
          SO YOU CAN REALLY SEE WHERE THE LEVEE DOLLARS ARE BEING APPLIED. 
          UM, THEN THERE WAS AN IMPLICATIONS MEMO THAT WAS DONE INDEPENDENTLY FROM THE COUNTY'S BUDGET POLICY AND ANALYTICS DEPARTMENT WHERE THEY INTERVIEWED A NUMBER OF, UM, THE KEY COUNTY STAKEHOLDERS. 
          ACTUALLY MANY, UM, I SEE OUR LAND INFORMATION OFFICER IN GIS MANAGER IN THE AUDIENCE TONIGHT. 
          I KNOW HE WAS ONE AREA THAT, THAT THERE WAS SIGNIFICANT, UM, CONVERSATION AROUND AS WELL AS TRANSPORTATION AS WELL AS, UM, DEB ILKE COMPREHENSIVE PLANNING. 
          UM, AND SO IF YOU GET A CHANCE TO READ THAT MEMO, UM, IT GOES PRETTY IN DETAIL TO SOME OF THE CONCERNS ABOUT SOME OF THE SER SERVICES THAT ARE PROVIDED OR MAY NOT BE PROVIDED, UM, GOING FORWARD, SHOULD WE DISCONTINUE THE PARTICIPATION IN, IN THE REGIONAL PLAN COMMISSION. 
          UM, THEN THERE IS A MEMO FROM OUR COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT DIRECTOR, DEB SISKI, RELATED TO THE COUNTY'S COMPREHENSIVE PLAN. 
          UM, THAT WAS DONE BECAUSE, WELL, IT IS KIND OF AN ISSUE WITHIN THE ISSUE, IF THAT MAKES SENSE. 
          IT'S A SMALLER SUBSET OF THE REGIONAL PLAN COMMISSIONS WORK, BUT IT IS SOMETHING THAT WE NEED TO BE THINKING ABOUT STARTING TO UPDATE IN 2027. 
          AND SO WE HAVE, WE WENT, ACTUALLY WENT THROUGH THE EXERCISE OF HOW DO, WHAT IS THE IMPLICATION OF THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN RELATED TO THE PARTICIPATION IN SEWER PACK? WHAT ARE THE CHOICES FOR DOING THAT WORK? AND YOU CAN SEE SHE OUTLINED WHAT THEY WERE. 
          UM, I WILL POINT OUT THERE THAT THE WITHDRAWAL FROM SEWER PACK, IF THAT, UH, MATERIALIZES IS IT, IT IS LIKELY THAT, UM, OPTION THREE OR FOUR ARE DEPLOYED, RIGHT? AN IN-HOUSE UPDATE TO THAT PLAN AND OR, UM, KIND OF THE, THE MINIMALISTIC APPROACH TO THAT SERVICE. 
          SO RIGHT, NOT MORE WITH LESS, BUT LESS WITH LESS IS KIND OF COM THE COMMON THEME THAT WE, YOU SOMETIMES HEAR, UM, US SAY AS WE LOOK AT, 
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UM, IF YOU, YOU KNOW, MAKE CHANGES OR MAKE CUTS IN CERTAIN AREAS, RIGHT, TO FUND OTHER AREAS OR OTHER PRIORITIES. 
          THOSE ARE THE IMPLICATIONS. 
          AND SO WE WANTED TO MAKE SURE THERE WAS AN UNDERSTANDING OF THOSE. 
          AND THEN FINALLY THERE IS A MEMO, A MORE RECENT MEMO FROM SEWER PACK ON PAGE, I GUESS IT'S 87, THAT, OH, NOPE, I'M ON THE REAL ESTATE TRANSFER FEES. 
          UM, THAT TAUGHT IS FROM THE SOUTHEASTERN REGIONAL PLANNING COMMISSION, UM, KIND OF OUTLINING A LITTLE BIT OF THE HISTORY DATING BACK TO 1960 AND THE PURPOSE, AND THEN REQUESTING FROM THEM. 
          UM, I KNOW THAT THEY HAD ASKED FOR KIND OF THE OPPORTUNITY TO ADDRESS THE GROUP, UM, ON A FEW ITEMS. UM, AND I WILL LEAVE THAT AS A NICE TRANSITION POINT, UM, SHOULD THE CHAIR WISH TO, UM, ACKNOWLEDGE THAT REQUEST. 
          AND I AM HERE TO ANSWER QUESTIONS AS IS. 
          I KNOW WE'VE GOT ERIN HERE, OR CHIEF ADMINISTRATIVE OFFICER. 
          WE'VE GOT ERIC DAMCO HERE. 
          HE'S AN EXPERT IN A LOT OF THE DATA, UM, AREAS FOR THE COUNTY AND ONE OF THE KEY STAKEHOLDERS ON THE COUNTY SIDE. 
          UM, OUR CONSERVATION NIST IS ALSO STILL HERE IN THE AUDIENCE, WHICH THEY DO A LOT WITH LAND DATA, LAND PLANNING FOR, UM, WATER RESOURCES AS WELL AS, YOU KNOW, STORM WATER DESIGN AND ENGINEERING TYPE STUFF. 
          UM, AND THEN OF COURSE, IT LOOKS LIKE WE HAVE SEVERAL REPRESENTATIVES FROM SEWER PACK HERE, UM, PROBABLY IN ALL AREAS, UM, WHICH IS GREATLY APPRECIATED. 
          OKAY, THIS IS A DISCUSSION ITEM, UH, FOR SOMETHING THAT'S NOT INCLUDED IN THE, UH, EXECUTIVE'S BUDGET. 
          UM, SO BASICALLY IT'S UP TO US TO TRY AND GET INTO THE NUTS AND BOLTS OF THIS. 
          SO I HIGHLY ENCOURAGE YOU TO REALLY ASK THE, SOME TOUGH QUESTIONS HERE. 
          UM, YOU KNOW, THIS, THIS IS THE TIME FOR, FOR TOUGH CONVERSATION. 
          CAN, CAN YOU VERIFY THAT AGAIN, THAT'S NOT IN THE EXECUTIVE. 
          THAT IS, UH, IT IS SAYS RIGHT IN THE BUDGET. 
          YES, THAT IS CORRECT. 
          THE CONTRIBUTION FOR THE SOUTHEASTERN WISCONSIN REGIONAL PLANNING WILL NOT BE IN THE COUNTY EXECUTIVE'S RECOMMENDED BUDGET. 
          SO THAT HAS A LOT OF IMPLICATIONS. 
          UM, AND WE HAVE THE PEOPLE HERE THAT CAN SPEAK ON THE PLUSES OR MINUSES OF THAT. 
          UM, OBVIOUSLY IT'S $197,000 LINE ITEM, UH, WHICH CONSIDERING, UH, THE WAY THE BUDGET LOOKS THIS YEAR, UM, I CAN UNDERSTAND THE EXECUTIVE'S POINT OF VIEW. 
          UM, BUT I ALSO WANT TO KNOW JUST HOW THIS AFFECTS THE COUNTY, HOW IT AFFECTS CERAK, WHAT, YOU KNOW, WHAT SERVICES COULD BE A PROBLEM. 
          LITERALLY WANT TO GET YOU GUYS ALL THE INFORMATION SO THAT YOU CAN KIND OF GET THE, MAKE THE BEST DECISION. 
          SO, UM, WITH THAT, UH, JAMIE, WHAT, UH, WHAT WOULD CPAC LIKE TO ADDRESS? UM, I GUESS I WOULD INVITE MS. HACKER UP TO THE PODIUM AND OR HER TEAM TO MAYBE START WITH SOME BRIEF COMMENTS, UM, AND THEN MAYBE OPEN IT UP TO QUESTIONS IF THERE ARE ANY FROM THE COMMITTEE. 
          OKAY, SO LET'S, UH, START WITH THAT. 
          WELCOME. 
          THANK YOU FOR COMING OUT TODAY. 
          WE APPRECIATE YOU BEING HERE. 
          THANK YOU. 
          AND THANK YOU, UH, UH, CHAIRMAN SCH LIFE FOR HAVING OUR PRESENCE AS WELL. 
          UH, MY NAME IS MIKE CROWLEY. 
          I AM A WAUKESHA COUNTY BOARD SUPERVISOR, DISTRICT 16, AND THE CITY OF WAUKESHA IS THE AREA THAT I REPRESENT. 
          UM, THAT'S THE NORTHWEST CORNER OF THE CITY OF WAUKESHA. 
          I HAVE SERVED ON THE WAUKESHA COUNTY BOARD FOR THE PAST 14 YEARS. 
          I HAVE ALSO SERVED ON SEWER PACK, CONTINUE TO SERVE, UH, ON THE EXECUTIVE COMMITTEE AS SECRETARY, UH, AND FORMER VICE CHAIR OF SEWER PACK. 
          AND I AM HERE TONIGHT TO SHARE WITH YOU OUR OBSERVATIONS IN WAUKESHA COUNTY OF THE WORK THAT SEWER PAC, UH, DOES FOR WAUKESHA COUNTY. 
          UH, WE HAVE BEEN, UH, VERY PROUD OF THE WORK AND THE PARTNERSHIP THAT WAUKESHA COUNTY HAS WITH SEWER PAC. 
          THE VALUE OF THE SERVICES WE COULD NOT REPLICATE, UH, INTERNALLY, HOWEVER, IT IS ALWAYS A TOPIC OF DISCUSSION WHEN THAT LEVY COMES FORWARD. 
          AND ARE WE GETTING THE BEST BANG FOR OUR BUCK AS A MEMBER OF THE REGIONAL PLANNING COMMISSION? UH, I CAN SAY YES. 
          OUR COUNTY BOARD CHAIRMAN AND OUR COUNTY EXECUTIVE CONTINUE TO APPLAUD THE WORK THAT, UH, SEWER PACK DOES 
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AS A SEWER PACK COMMISSIONER FOR THE PAST 13 PLUS YEARS. 
          WE TAKE THIS VERY SERIOUSLY, THE PROCESS OF THE LEVY, UH, THE WORK THAT IS DONE SERVING ON THE EXECUTIVE COMMITTEE. 
          I ALSO SERVE ON THE PLANNING AND RESEARCH COMMITTEE AS CHAIR AND ALSO THE PUBLIC RELATIONS AND INTERGOVERNMENTAL COMMITTEE AS CHAIR. 
          COMMUNICATION IS VITALLY IMPORTANT IN WHAT WE DO, AND THAT'S WHY WE'RE HERE THIS EVENING. 
          UH, KNOWING THE CONCERNS THAT EACH COUNTY MAY HAVE IN THEIR BUDGET, UH, THIS IS VERY IMPORTANT TO COMMUNICATE TO YOU THE VALUE OF WHAT SERVICES YOU GET. 
          WE HAVE AN OUTSTANDING STAFF OF NEARLY 70 PROFESSIONALS AT SEWER PACK. 
          WE REVIEW THE BUDGET VERY INTENTLY EVERY YEAR. 
          WE HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO WORK WITH THE STAFF VERY CLOSELY. 
          AND SINCE MS. HACKER HAS JOINED SEWER PACK A FEW YEARS AGO, WE HAVE BEGUN A REEVALUATION OF HOW WE CAN IMPROVE OUR EFFICIENCIES EVEN MORE SO THAN WHAT WE HAVE DONE THROUGH THE YEARS. 
          SO THIS EVENING, I'M HERE TO REPRESENT AND TO SUPPORT OUR STAFF AND TO REPRESENT OUR EXECUTIVE COMMITTEE AND OBSERVE CONVERSATIONS AND QUESTIONS AND CONCERNS. 
          AND IF THERE'S ANYTHING THAT I CAN HELP CLARIFY, UH, TO OUR CHAIRMAN, UH, CHAIRMAN COLEMAN, UH, WHO COULD NOT BE HERE THIS EVENING, I'LL BE HAPPY TO SHARE THAT ON BEHALF OF THE COMMISSIONERS. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU, SIR. 
          WE APPRECIATE IT. 
          THANK YOU. 
          WELCOME. 
          GOOD AFTERNOON. 
          I'M STEPHANIE HACKER. 
          I'M THE EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR FOR SOUTHEASTERN WISCONSIN REGIONAL PLANNING COMMISSION. 
          THANK YOU FOR HAVING US. 
          WE RECOGNIZE YOUR TIME. 
          SO WE HAVE A FEW BRIEF REMARKS MYSELF, TWO OTHERS, AND THAT IS ALL I'D LIKE TO ACKNOWLEDGE THE COMPREHENSIVE NATURE OF YOUR IMPACT ANALYSIS FROM YOUR POLICY ANALYST. 
          AND BECAUSE OF THAT COMPREHENSIVE NATURE, FOCUS ON THREE QUICK POINTS REGARDING THE LEVY. 
          THE FIRST IS THAT TO DIRECT OUR FEDERAL FUNDS INTO THE COUNTIES WE SERVE, THOSE FEDERAL FUNDS REQUIRE A LOCAL CONTRIBUTION. 
          SO THE LEVY, IT CANNOT BE EMPHASIZED ENOUGH, PLAYS A ROLE IN PROVIDING THE LOCAL CONTRIBUTION THAT IS REQUIRED TO MATCH THOSE FEDERAL FUNDS AND BRING THEM TO THE COUNTIES. 
          THE SECOND IS THAT WHILE STATE LAW ALLOWS US TO LEVY UP TO 0.003% OF THE REGION'S EQUALIZED VALUE, WE HAVE LONG REMAINED BELOW, FAR BELOW THAT LEVY RATE. 
          AND SPECIFICALLY FOR 2026, WE ARE WITH A LEVY RATE OF 0.00079. 
          SO ABOUT A MERE QUARTER OF WHAT WE ARE ALLOWED TO LEVY BY STATE LAW. 
          SO WE HAVE BEEN VERY MINDFUL OF THE LEVY AND ITS, UH, ROLE IN OUR REVENUES. 
          THE THIRD IS THAT IF WE WERE TO KEEP THE LEVY RATE THE SAME IN THE FUTURE, THAT EQUALIZED VALUE OF WASHINGTON COUNTY PLAYS A KEY ROLE IN WHETHER YOU SEE AN INCREASE IN THE LEVEE PAYMENT OR DECREASE IN THE YEARS AHEAD. 
          SO EVEN IF WE SAY IN THE FUTURE YEARS THAT WE WILL MAINTAIN THE LEVEE RATE OF 0.00079, YOU COULD STILL, IF YOUR EQUALIZED VALUE INCREASES OVER TIME, SEE AN INCREASE IN THE LEVEE. 
          SO IT'S FORMULAIC AND I WANTED TO EMPHASIZE THOSE THREE POINTS. 
          SO WITH THAT, MY ACUTE OBSERVATION IS THAT THE REGIONAL PLANNING COMMISSION HAS A LONG STANDING APPROACH TO HIGH QUALITY AND LEAN GOVERNMENT SERVICES TO THE COUNTIES. 
          AND WE'VE BEEN VERY STEADFAST IN LOOKING AT 2026 IN A FISCALLY RESPONSIBLE FASHION FOR ALL OF OUR MAJOR REVENUE AREAS. 
          WE REMAIN AVAILABLE TO COME AND CONNECT AND MEET WITH THE COUNTY AT ANY TIME TO DISCUSS OUR SERVICES. 
          I WILL TURN IT TO DEPUTY DIRECTOR MCKAY AND COMMISSIONER HANSEN, AND THAT WILL CONCLUDE OUR REMARKS. 
          THANK YOU. 
          PLEASE COME FORWARD. 
          GOOD EVENING. 
          UH, DEPUTY DIRECTOR BEN MCKAY. 
          UM, I'D JUST LIKE TO MAKE A FEW COMMENTS AND I THINK, AND I ECHO, UH, STEPHANIE HACKER'S, UM, COMMENTS REGARDING YOUR IMPACT ANALYSIS REPORT. 
          I THOUGHT IT WAS EXTREMELY THOROUGH. 
          I AGREE WITH ALL OF THE FINDINGS, UM, IN THAT REPORT, PARTICULARLY ABOUT, UH, OUR SERVICES AND AGAIN, IMPACTS OF, UH, MAYBE NOT BEING ABLE TO PROVIDE THOSE SERVICES IN THE FUTURE. 
          SO A FEW, UH, COMMON AREAS I WANTED TO TOUCH ON ARE, ARE AROUND OUR SERVICES AS WELL AS SOME OF OUR OTHER NON, UH, REGIONAL PLANNING COMMISSION DESIGNATIONS. 
          UH, AND THEN I THINK YOU'VE DONE A GREAT JOB AS THIS, AS YOU JUST, UH, EXPLAINED, UH, JUST MAKING SURE THAT, UH, STAKEHOLDERS ARE INFORMED, INCLUDING 
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LOCAL GOVERNMENTS, LIKE DISTRICTS, SPECIAL UNITS OF, UH, GOVERNMENT, WHICH YOU DID A, A FANTASTIC JOB OF. 
          SO I'M, I'M VERY, UH, APPRECIATIVE OF, OF THAT. 
          SO TO BEGIN WITH, THE FIRST BULLET, JUST A BRIEF OVERVIEW OF COMMISSION BENEFITS. 
          AGAIN, I CAN KEEP THIS BRIEF 'CAUSE I THINK THAT IMPACT ANALYSIS WAS, UH, SO COMPREHENSIVE AND I THINK WE TEND TO PAY A LOT OF ATTENTION TO SERVICE AGREEMENTS, WHICH ARE EXTREMELY IMPORTANT. 
          SO THOSE WOULD BE THINGS LIKE WHEN WE ASSIST WITH A COMPREHENSIVE PLAN OR MAYBE THE, UH, LAND EVALUATION AND SITE ANALYSIS OR LISA ANALYSIS THAT WE DID, UH, RECENTLY IN SUPPORT OF THE FARMLAND PRESERVATION PLAN. 
          JUST AS, UH, A COUPLE OF EXAMPLES, BUT I THINK SOMETHING THAT MAYBE, UH, UH, DOESN'T GET, UH, QUITE ENOUGH ATTENTION, UH, UH, WHEN WE DISCUSS OUR SERVICES IS REALLY, UH, THE BREADTH OF DATA THAT IS AVAILABLE TO THE COUNTY. 
          ALL OF OUR SEVEN COUNTIES, UH, UH, THAT WE COLLECT ON A, UH, ROUTINE BASIS. 
          UH, AND WE ACTUALLY HAVE, UH, ON A HISTORICAL BASIS GOING BACK OFTENTIMES TO THE 1970S WHEN WE'RE LOOKING AT THINGS LIKE ENVIRONMENTAL INFORMATION, WHERE WE'VE GONE OUT AND DONE FIELD VISITS, FIELD DATA, UH, EVEN THINGS AS MINUTE AS MEETING NOTES WE OFTEN WILL HAVE ON FILE. 
          SO WE CAN GO BACK, LOOK AT HISTORICAL RECORD AND MAYBE FIGURE OUT SOME ANSWERS TO QUESTIONS THAT THE COUNTY MAY HAVE. 
          BUT I'D ALSO LIKE TO FOCUS ON THAT ROUTINELY COLLECTED DATA THAT IS REALLY THE CORNERSTONE OF MANY OF THE PLANS ACROSS THE REGION. 
          BE THE COMPREHENSIVE PLANS, PARK AND OPEN SPACE PLANS, LAND AND WATER RESOURCE MANAGEMENT PLANS, A WHOLE HOST OF PLANS, UH, FARMLAND PRESERVATION PLANS. 
          UH, REGARDLESS OF WHETHER THE COMMISSION IS PROVIDING THAT DIRECT ASSISTANCE ON A PLAN, UH, THAT INFORMATION IS AVAILABLE TO OUR COUNTIES AND OUR LOCAL GOVERNMENTS OR CONSULTANTS HELPING OUR COUNTIES AND LOCAL GOVERNMENTS, UH, WITH THEIR PLANNING ACTIVITIES. 
          UH, JUST A COUPLE EXAMPLES I MIGHT LIKE TO HIGHLIGHT BECAUSE THEY'RE GONNA BE, UH, VERY IMPORTANT TO THE COUNTY, I THINK COMING UP IN THE NEXT FEW YEARS CONSIDERING, UH, THE NEED TO DO A, UH, 10 YEAR UPDATE TO HERE, COMPREHENSIVE PLAN. 
          UH, ONE EXAMPLE IS OUR EXISTING LAND USE INVENTORY. 
          THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE DO EVERY FIVE YEARS AND WE LOOK AT THE ENTIRE REGION IN GREAT DETAIL, UH, AND PUT EVERY SQUARE INCH, EVERY BLADE OF GRASS OF THE REGION INTO 66, 67, UH, DISTINCT LAND USE CATEGORIES. 
          AND THAT REALLY DOES FORM, UH, KIND OF THE, THE BASIS OF DEVELOPING, UH, A LAND USE PLAN LIKE A COMPREHENSIVE PLAN. 
          UH, AND ALSO THOSE OTHER TYPES OF, UH, PLANS THAT I HAD, UH, JUST MENTIONED. 
          SO THAT IS SOMETHING THAT WE TAKE ON ABOUT EVERY FIVE YEARS. 
          UH, THE LAST INVENTORY, UH, WAS BASED ON 2020 AERIAL PHOTOS AND COMPLETED, UH, NOT TOO LONG AGO. 
          IT IS A, A, A PRETTY PAINSTAKING PROCESS, A VERY LONG PROCESS AND A VERY DETAILED PROCESS. 
          AND I THINK ACTUALLY TO MY UNDERSTANDING, A VERY UNIQUE PROCESS FOR, UH, AGENCY SUCH AS OURS. 
          UH, OUR LAST EFFORT DID TAKE ABOUT TWO, TWO AND A HALF YEARS AT A COST OF ABOUT $536,000. 
          SO IT IS NOT AN INEXPENSIVE PROCESS TO DO, BUT A VERY NECESSARY PROCESS FOR, UH, DOING ACCURATE LAND USE PLANNING. 
          UH, LOOKING AT WASHINGTON COUNTY, I THINK WASHINGTON COUNTY IS ROUGHLY ABOUT 16% OF THE LAND AREA OF SOUTHEASTERN WISCONSIN. 
          SO THIS IS NOT, UH, ANYWHERE NEAR AN EXACT ESTIMATE, BUT, UM, THAT WOULD, YOU KNOW, BE ABOUT $85,000 THAT, UH, WE PUT TOWARDS, UH, WORKING ON THAT LAND USE INVENTORY SPECIFIC TO WASHINGTON COUNTY, IF YOU USE KIND OF THAT RUDIMENTARY CALCULATION THAT, UH, UH, I JUST DESCRIBED. 
          SO IT IS DEFINITELY, UM, IT'S, IT TAKES QUITE A BIT OF TIME, QUITE A BIT OF EFFORT AND IT DEFINITELY TAKES SOME INVESTMENT TO DO THAT KIND OF VERY IMPORTANT WORK. 
          ANOTHER AREA OF OUR WORK THAT I WANTED TO POINT OUT IS POPULATION, HOUSEHOLD AND EMPLOYMENT PROJECTIONS. 
          SO WE DO THOSE ABOUT ONCE EVERY 10 YEARS, USUALLY IN SUPPORT OF UPDATING OUR MAJOR, UH, MAJOR UPDATE OF OUR REGIONAL LAND USE AND TRANSPORTATION PLAN, UH, WHICH IS CURRENTLY VISION 2050. 
          THAT IS A REGIONAL PLAN THAT ALSO HAS IMPLEMENTATION IMPLICATIONS FOR THE COUNTY. 
          UH, WE WILL BE UPDATING THAT, UH, BEGINNING NEXT YEAR, BUT WE'RE ALREADY DOING THE UNDERPINNING WORK LIKE THAT EXISTING LAND USE INVENTORY AND THESE PROJECTIONS. 
          UH, UH, NOW, UM, THOSE PROJECTIONS ARE AGAIN CRITICALLY IMPORTANT FOR OUR REGIONAL PLANNING, BUT ALSO FOR THINGS LIKE COMPREHENSIVE PLANNING PARK AND OPEN SPACE PLANNING. 
          ALL.
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