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          HEY, THERE'S A MEETING IN 30 MINUTES, , AND ANOTHER ONE AT FIVE 30. 
          WHERE'S THAT ONE? JACKSON? THE STATE OF THE COUNTY ADDRESS? YEAH. 
          I GOTTA GO TO GARY'S PLACE WHERE THEY'RE HAVING THAT FUNDRAISER FOR. 
          THAT'S AFTER THAT. 
          THAT'S AFTER, THAT'S AFTER THAT, YEAH. 
          RIGHT AFTER THAT. 
          YEAH. 
          THEY GOT 'EM ALL. 
          JOSH HAS STATED CAREFULLY EARMARKED TOGETHER. 
          I THOUGHT THAT WAS OTHER. 
          I GOT MY FIVE 30 AND SIX O'CLOCK VIA TRAFFIC JAM BETWEEN, OH, I THOUGHT IT WAS THREE O'CLOCK TO FIVE 30 WAS GARY'S PLACE. 
          NOPE. 
          NO, IT'S AFTER. 
          OH, IT'S THREE 30. 
          ARE WE READY? YEP, WE'RE ON. 
          I WAS WONDERING . 
          GOOD EVENING, EVERYONE. 
          IT'S THREE 30 AND I'LL CALL THIS MEETING OF THE EXECUTIVE COMMITTEE TO ORDER. 
          UM, 
          [Call to Order, Roll Call, Affidavit of Posting, A Moment of Silent Prayer, and Pledge of Allegiance]
WE ARE ALL PRESENT. 
          THIS MEETING WAS NOTICED BY THE CLERK'S OFFICE APPROPRIATELY. 
          UH, WE'LL RISE FOR A MOMENT OF SILENT PRAYER AND A PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE. 
          I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS. 
          ONE A NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL. 
          IN THE PACKET, YOU SHOULD SEE THE MINUTES FROM THE MEETINGS OF JULY 16TH 
          [Minutes]
AND AUGUST 18TH. 
          UH, ARE 
          [a. Minutes of July 16, 2025]
THERE ANY CORRECTIONS 
          [b. Minutes of August 18, 2025]
TO THOSE MINUTES THAT I SEE THERE BEING NONE? WE'LL RECORD THEM AS PRINTED. 
          UM, CONSENT AGENDA HAS NEXT GENERATION HOUSING, HEART AND HOMESTEAD IMPACT STATISTICS. 
          DOES ANYBODY WANNA DISCUSS THEM AT ALL? THEY'RE FAIRLY SELF-EXPLANATORY. 
          SO OUR FIRST ITEM IS FOUR, 
          [a. Next Generation Housing and Heart & Homestead Impact Statistics ]
A NEXT GENERATION HOUSING FUND REQUEST BY URBAN SUSTAINABLE HOMES. 
          UH, MS. ILKE, WE NEED A MOTION IN A SECOND FOR THIS ONE. 
          IT'S GONNA FALL APART. 
          UM, SO THIS AFTERNOON AT 1230, UM, WE WERE TALKING TO, UM, UH, 
          [a. Next Generation Housing Fund Request by Lange Urban Sustainable Homes]
LAYING URBAN SUSTAINABLE HOMES, AND FOR SURE THEY'RE CALLED LUSH, UM, LUSH HOMES. 
          AND, UM, WE WERE SPEAKING WITH THEM TO LET THEM KNOW THE TIME CHANGE, UM, FOR TONIGHT'S MEETING. 
          AND, UM, THEY INFORMED US THAT THEY'RE ACTUALLY REDESIGNING THE DEVELOPMENT TO INCLUDE ADDITIONAL, UM, OWNER OCCUPIED DWELLING UNITS. 
          UM, AND TO DO THAT, THEY NEED TO GET A REZONING THROUGH THE CITY OF WEST BEND. 
          SO I TOLD THEM THAT IT WOULD BE BEST THAT WE JUST POSTPONE, UM, THE FIRST TWO AGENDA ITEMS TO OCTOBER, UM, TO GIVE THEM A AMPLE OPPORTUNITY TO REDESIGN AND START THE PROCESS WITH THE CITY. 
          SO THEY'RE STILL VERY INTERESTED IN DOING NEXTGEN HOUSING. 
          UM, THEY'RE JUST, UM, WANTING TO PUT ADDITIONAL HOMES IN THERE. 
          SO, THANK YOU. 
          ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? LOOK FORWARD TO SEEING THE NEXT UPDATED DRAFT. 
          RIGHT. 
          UM, AND THEY ARE AWARE THAT THE OCTOBER MEETING INCLUDES THE PUBLIC HEARING FOR THE BUDGET. 
          SO, UM, THEY ARE NOT AWARE OF THAT, BUT I, IT STARTS, I DID TELL 'EM THAT IT DID START AT SIX. 
          OKAY. 
          SO YEAH, THEY'RE INTERESTED IN A, IN ATTENDING, IN CASE YOU HAVE ANY SPECIFIC QUESTIONS ABOUT HOW THEY, UH, BUILD HOMES. 
          IT IS A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT. 
          UM, UH, SO FAR ALL OF OUR BUILDERS BUILD STICK HOMES. 
          UM, AND THIS IS ACTUALLY GOING TO BE A MANUFACTURED, UM, HOUSING, UM, THAT THEY DO IN THEIR WAREHOUSE, AND THEN THEY PUT IT TOGETHER ON SITE. 
          UM, SO I THOUGHT IT'D BE A GOOD OPPORTUNITY FOR THEM TO BE PRESENT SO THEY CAN ANSWER ANY SPECIFIC QUESTIONS THAT YOU MIGHT HAVE. 
          I BELIEVE IN JACKSON, THERE WAS A COUPLE THAT WERE NOT STICK BUILT. 
          THEY DID DO SOME PENALIZE, YES. 
          YEAH, SOME PANELIZED, WHICH IS, UM, AND USH HOMES ACTUALLY TAKES IT A STEP FURTHER THAN THAT AND THEY, UM, UH, CUT OUT EVERY SINGLE PIECE IN THEIR WAREHOUSE AND THEN PUT IT TOGETHER. 
          SO IT'S A KIND OF A STEP ABOVE WHAT WAS HAPPENING, UM, IN THE OAKS THAT WE TALKED ABOUT. 
          OKAY. 
          THANK YOU. 
          ALL RIGHT. 
          UH, NEXT STEP THEN WOULD BE FOUR C WASHINGTON COUNTY BROWNFIELD'S ASSESSMENT FUND, REQUEST BY MATTER DEVELOPMENT 
          [c. Washington County Brownfields Assessment Fund Request by Matter Development for Work Plan Development and Supplemental Assessment]
FOR, UH, THE DEVELOPMENT IN THE SOUTHEAST CORNER OF HARTFORD. 
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ALRIGHT. 
          YEP. 
          SO, UM, MOVEMENT IN MOTION. 
          A SECOND, PLEASE. 
          I MOVE SUPERVISOR SCH SUPERVISOR CHADRON. 
          OKAY. 
          PROCEED. 
          ALRIGHT, SO THIS FUNDING REQUEST, UH, AS YOU MENTIONED, IS FOR PIKE PLACE, UH, PREVIOUSLY KNOWN AS THE GAELIC PIT, UH, IN THE, UH, CITY OF HARTFORD. 
          IT KIND OF HAD A NAME CHANGE, UM, BUT A LITTLE BIT OF BACKGROUND ABOUT THIS SITE. 
          UH, PREVIOUSLY IT WAS FUNDED $48,360, UH, FOR PHASE TWO ENVIRONMENTAL ASSESSMENT WORK ON THE SITE THAT HAS NOW BEEN COMPLETED. 
          UH, AND NOW THERE'S THIS NEW FUNDING REQUEST, WHICH IS $29,901, UH, OF WHICH MATTER DEVELOPMENT WILL HAVE A 20% MATCH REQUIREMENT, WHICH IS $5,980 AND 20 CENTS. 
          UH, THIS FUNDING REQUEST SPECIFICALLY IS FOR SUPPLEMENTAL ENVIRONMENTAL ASSESSMENT WORK, UH, WHICH WILL INCLUDE SOIL BORINGS AND THEN A WORK PLAN, UH, FOR THE ACTUAL WORK THAT'S GONNA HAPPEN ON THE SITE. 
          UH, THE SRC UH, MET AND, UH, CONSIDERED THIS, UM, ON SEPTEMBER 3RD, AND THEY MET RECOMMENDED APPROVAL. 
          SO I'M HERE WITH ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR CLARIFICATIONS. 
          UM, AND I RECALL FROM THE SRC MEETING, WAS THERE A DRY CLEANER IN ONE CORNER OF THE PROPERTY THAT THERE WAS MADE THEM HONE IN ON THAT? THERE WERE SOME, UH, BUILDINGS ON THE SITE, BUT IT WAS MAINLY A QUARRY. 
          I DO NOT RECALL A DRY CLEANER, UH, BEING ON THE SITE. 
          IT WAS BUILDINGS FOR THE QUARRY USE, UM, BACK IN THE DAY. 
          SO, UM, BUT I COULD FIND THAT CLARIFICATION. 
          WELL, I THINK THERE WERE SOME SPECIFIC CHEMICALS THAT THEY WERE WORRIED ABOUT. 
          I CAN MENTION THE NAME, BUT BEYOND THAT, IT'S TET CHLORINE, SO, UM, YEAH. 
          YEAH, I THINK THAT WAS A PREVIOUS BROWNFIELD REQUEST FROM HARTFORD JUST TO THE SOUTH. 
          THERE WAS A DRY CLEANING WITH THAT. 
          I REMEMBER THAT. 
          OKAY. 
          THAT MIGHT BE WHAT YOU'RE THINKING OF THERE. 
          I MEAN, THERE IS, SORRY TO GO INTO ANOTHER SITE, BUT THE SOUTH MAIN STREET SITE HAS, WAS THE ONE THAT HAD A DRY CLEANER ON IT. 
          NO, I WAS READING FROM THIS ONE, BUT, UM, SUPERVISOR SHARIN. 
          THANK YOU. 
          UH, JUST REAL QUICK, I THOUGHT THEY SAID SOMETHING ABOUT THERE WAS CARS AND OR VEHICLES PARKED ON SITE OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT TOO. 
          AND YES, THERE, THERE WERE CAR THERE, THERE ARE JUNK CARS THAT WERE LEFT ON THE SITE, UM, BUT THEY WEREN'T OF CONCERN FOR THE ENVIRONMENTAL ASSESSMENT. 
          THEY WILL BE REMOVED ONCE THE DEVELOPMENT HAPPENS, BUT THERE WAS NO ENVIRONMENTAL CONCERNS CONNECTED TO THOSE. 
          SO THEN IS THIS LIKE THE FINAL REVIEW OF THIS THEN? OR POTENTIALLY. 
          SO, UM, OKAY. 
          YEP. 
          SO EITHER, WE'LL, THE DNR WILL WANT MORE ASSESSMENT WORK, UH, OR, UH, WE WILL PROCEED TOWARDS, UM, DOING ANY ENVIRONMENTAL REPORTING OR PLANNING TO DO REMEDIATION. 
          OR IF THERE ISN'T REMEDIATION THAT IS NEEDED, THEN WE'LL REQUEST A NO FURTHER ACTION REQUIRED. 
          SO KIND OF THREE ROUTES SURE. 
          POTENTIAL. 
          UM, YEAH. 
          OKAY. 
          THANK YOU. 
          YEP. 
          ANY OTHER COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS? THERE? BEING NONE WILL VOTE. 
          ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE. 
          AYE. 
          AYE. 
          ANY OPPOSED? THANK YOU. 
          THE NEXT ITEM IS OUR BUDGET DISCUSSION, WHICH WILL BE LED BY AARON DAHL. 
          [d. 2026/2027 Budget Discussion Executive Department Budgets: Budget, Policy, & Analytics County Attorney (includes Child Support) County Board County Clerk (includes Property & Liability Insurance) County Executive County Treasurer Finance Geographic Information Systems Human Resources Library]
ALL RIGHT. 
          GOOD AFTERNOON EVERYONE. 
          THANK YOU MR. CHAIRMAN. 
          UM, SO JUST A, A COUPLE OF HOUSEKEEPING TYPE NOTES. 
          UM, THE PACKET THAT YOU SEE, UM, HAS THE BUDGET BOOK PAGES, UM, WHEN THERE, WHEN THERE WERE, UM, CAPITAL OUTLAY REQUEST FORMS OR FEE SCHEDULES INCLUDED, UM, WITH THE BUDGET SUBMISSION FROM THOSE DEPARTMENTS, WE INCLUDED THOSE IN THIS PACKET AS WELL. 
          UM, IT'S A SIMILAR PACKET TO, UH, WHAT YOU RECEIVED, UH, WHEN WE REVIEWED THE BUDGETS, UM, IN AUGUST, UH, AT, AT THAT SERIES OF MEETINGS. 
          UM, AND SO TONIGHT I PLAN ON GOING THROUGH THESE BUDGETS IN THE ORDER, UM, IN WHICH THEY APPEAR IN THIS PACKET. 
          UM, WE'RE NOT GONNA TALK ABOUT EVERY LITTLE NICKEL AND DIME TYPE CHANGE. 
          UM, THIS IS THE PART OF THE PROCESS WHERE WE SORT OF MOVE INTO THE, THE POLICY AS WE SHIFT OUR WORK FROM THE, FROM THE 5,000 LINE ITEMS, UH, INTO SORT OF THE POLICY THAT BEGINS YOUR WORK AS, AS A BOARD ON THE BUDGET, UM, AFTER THIS MEETING. 
          UM, SO THE COUNTY EXECUTIVE LAST WEEK ALLUDED TO THE FACT THAT YOU'LL BE RECEIVING, UM, THE LINE ITEM DETAIL AS, AS AN EXECUTIVE COMMITTEE, AS A REPRESENTATIVE OF YOUR INDIVIDUAL STANDING COMMITTEES. 
          I DO PLAN ON PASSING OUT THE LINE ITEM DETAIL TO EACH OF YOU. 
          I'VE GOT A, A HANDY 
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LITTLE BINDER FOR EVERYONE, UM, THAT WE CAN PASS OUT THAT WILL CONTAIN, UM, BUDGETS FOR EVERY DEPARTMENT, UM, AND LINE ITEM DETAIL ESSENTIALLY FOR EVERY DEPARTMENT. 
          SO YOU CAN DIVE IN AS MUCH AS YOU'D LIKE, UM, BETWEEN NOW AND UM, NOVEMBER. 
          AND, UM, YOU KNOW, WE CAN KEEP THE, THE FLOW OF, OF DIALOGUE HAPPENING IF, UH, IF IT, IF IT NEEDS TO. 
          SO, UM, TRYING TO, TRYING TO EQUIP YOU WITH THE TOOLS. 
          UM, THIS IS A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT THAN WE'VE DONE IN THE PAST, BUT TRYING TO JUST EQUIP YOU WITH ALL THE TOOLS THAT YOU MIGHT NEED TO CONTINUE OUR BUDGET DISCUSSIONS HERE. 
          SO, UM, I GUESS JUST KIND OF JUMPING INTO THE PACKET, UM, WE MIGHT AS WELL GET STARTED. 
          UM, THE FIRST DEPARTMENT IN THE PACKET IS, UM, BUDGET POLICY AND ANALYTICS. 
          UM, THAT IS, UM, MY HOME DEPARTMENT. 
          UM, WE, WE OBVIOUSLY, UM, THE BUDGET FUNCTION COMES OUTTA THAT OFFICE, BUT, UM, PAYROLL AND THE TIME TIMEKEEPING, SYSTEM MANAGEMENT, UM, DATA AND POLICY RESEARCH, UM, UM, AND THINGS, THINGS OF THAT NATURE, UM, ARE, ARE SORT OF A FLAVOR FOR WHAT THE BPA DOES. 
          UM, IN TERMS OF CHANGES WITH THE BUDGET, THERE'S, THERE AREN'T TOO MANY SIGNIFICANT CHANGES. 
          YOU'LL SEE A PERSONNEL COST ADJUSTMENT. 
          UM, SOME OF THAT IS RELATED TO, UM, MARKET PAY ADJUSTMENTS THAT, THAT WERE IDENTIFIED IN THE 24 25 BUDGET. 
          WE HAD A DOLLAR AMOUNT, UM, IN NON-DEPARTMENTAL FOR THOSE MARKET ADJUSTMENTS. 
          WHAT YOU'RE SEEING HERE WITH THAT INCREASE IS BASICALLY THE, THE NON-DEPARTMENTAL AMOUNT BEING DEPLOYED OUT INTO THE REMAINING DEPARTMENT BUDGET. 
          SO, UM, AN INCREASE THERE RELATED TO A MARKET ADJUSTMENT IN 2024. 
          UM, THAT'S THE FIRST TIME YOU'RE SEEING IT IN A BUDGET TO BUDGET CHANGE. 
          UM, ALSO THERE'S SOME CHANGES, UH, IN TERMS OF HEALTH INSURANCE HERE. 
          UM, HEALTH INSURANCE ELECTIONS JUST CAN KIND OF FLUCTUATE THE PERSONNEL COSTS. 
          UM, WE ARE SEEING, UM, SOME SLIGHT SAVINGS IN INTERDEPARTMENTAL, ALTHOUGH YOU CAN'T REALLY SEE IT BECAUSE THOSE SAVINGS WERE EATEN UP BY INCREASES IN OTHER AREAS. 
          UM, BUT WE DID, UH, ACHIEVE SOME SAVINGS IN, IN OUR, UM, UKG, WHICH IS, UH, KRONOS, UM, IF YOU'VE HEARD OF THAT, IT'S OUR TIMEKEEPING, UH, SOFTWARE SOLUTION. 
          UM, WE REDUCED THE NUMBER OF USERS WHEN SAMARITAN WENT AWAY AND WE WERE ABLE TO ACHIEVE SOME COST SAVINGS THERE, WHICH KIND OF, IT'S A SMALL BUDGET, SO ANY, ANY LITTLE BIT HELPS. 
          UM, BUT OTHERWISE THERE AREN'T TOO MANY MOVING PARTS IN THIS BUDGET. 
          IT'S 90% PERSONNEL. 
          UM, AND SO, UM, THAT, THAT'S BASICALLY THE, UH, EXTENT OF MY NOTES ON THIS ONE. 
          AND SO BASICALLY I'LL END EACH DEPARTMENT SECTION AND ASK FOR ANY QUESTIONS, UM, SIMILAR TO WHAT WE DID THIS MORNING. 
          AND THEN, UH, IF THERE ARE NONE, I WILL MOVE ON TO THE NEXT SECTION. 
          GOOD. 
          OKAY. 
          PROCEED. 
          ALRIGHT, THANK YOU. 
          UM, MOVING INTO THE COUNTY ATTORNEY'S BUDGET AREA, UM, YOU'LL NOTICE THAT THERE ARE, ARE A COUPLE OF SECTIONS HERE. 
          ONE SECTION FOR COUNTY ATTORNEY, ONE SECTION FOR THE CHILD SUPPORT FUNCTION, UM, IN TERMS OF, UH, COUNTY ATTORNEY, UM, IN THIS BUDGET YOU'LL RECALL WELL IN, IN THE TWENTY FOUR TWENTY FIVE BUDGET, UH, WE STARTED WITH, UM, OPIOID SETTLEMENT PROCEEDS, UM, BEING USED TO FUND HALF OF A, UH, ATTORNEY, UM, IN THE COUNTY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE. 
          THAT PRACTICE IS BUDGETED TO CONTINUE. 
          UM, HOWEVER, ONE CHANGE FROM LAST BUDGET TO THIS BUDGET IS WE NOW HAVE A COST CENTER WHERE WE SORT OF HOUSE ALL OF THE COSTS THAT ARE HITTING THE OPIOID SETTLEMENT ACCOUNT, UM, THAT SITS IN THE HUMAN SERVICES AREA. 
          UM, AND SO THOSE COSTS ACTUALLY SHOW UP THERE. 
          THEY'RE NOT NECESSARILY IN THIS BUDGET, NEITHER IS THE REVENUE, BUT I WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT I POINT THAT OUT BECAUSE THE POSITION ITSELF SITS IN THIS DEPARTMENT. 
          UM, UH, ALSO IN THE COUNTY ATTORNEY AREA, YOU'LL SEE A REVENUE REDUCTION OF ABOUT A HUNDRED THOUSAND, UM, THAT, THAT REPRESENTS, UM, BASICALLY THAT REPRESENTS REVENUE THAT THE COUNTY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE CHARGES OUT TO OTHER DEPARTMENTS AND RECOUP, UH, FROM THOSE DEPARTMENTS WHEN THEY, WHEN THEY GET GRANT FUNDING AND THINGS LIKE THAT. 
          AND, AND THE REDUCTION REALLY REPRESENTS SORT OF A, UM, A, A REDUCTION IN THE AMOUNT OF COURT, UH, OF COURT COMMISSIONER TIME AND, AND REALLY JUST KIND OF HEARINGS THAT ARE HAPPENING OVERALL. 
          UM, IT'S, IT, IT WAS DESCRIBED AS AS A A, A GOOD THING, AN EFFICIENT THING FOR THE COURT SYSTEM OVERALL. 
          BUT IN THIS PARTICULAR BUDGET AREA, IT, IT IMPACTS THEIR REVENUES. 
          UM, THE REVENUE HERE SHOWS UP AS AN EXPENSE SOMEWHERE ELSE IN OUR BUDGET. 
          SO, UM, THAT IS A GOOD THING OVERALL WHEN WE CAN DRIVE THAT EXPENSE DOWN. 
          BUT FOR THIS PARTICULAR BUDGET IN ISOLATION, UM, THAT NUMBER LOOKS, 
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LOOKS BAD. 
          BUT, UM, SO THOSE CHANGES, UH, RESULT IN, UM, IN AN INCREASED LEVY NEED FOR COUNTY ATTORNEY. 
          UM, MOVING INTO THAT SECOND AREA THERE FOR CHILD SUPPORT, UM, REALLY, UH, ONE BIG CHANGE IS, UM, THERE'S AN ASSUMPTION IN HERE ABOUT ELIMINATING LEVY FOR A POSITION IN, UH, THE CHILD SUPPORT AREA. 
          UM, THAT'S BASED ON AN ASSUMPTION THAT WORKLOAD SHIFTS AROUND AFTER A RETIREMENT. 
          UM, WHAT WE'RE HEARING IS THAT THERE, THERE ARE SOME, UM, EFFICIENCIES THAT ARE BEING REALIZED IN THE DAY-TO-DAY OPERATIONS. 
          SOME OF THE DUTIES ARE SORT OF NATURALLY BEING ABSORBED BY THE DIFFERENT ROLES. 
          UM, AND SO THERE'S AN OPPORTUNITY, UM, WITH A RETIREMENT TO DO SOME RESTRUCTURING. 
          AND SO THIS BUDGET ASSUMES, UM, ONE POSITION, UM, BECOMES, BECOMES UNFUNDED. 
          UM, WHILE THAT DOES SAVE ABOUT $70,000 IN EXPENDITURES, WE RECOUP ABOUT, UM, TWO THIRDS OF THAT THROUGH GRANTS. 
          SO THE, THE, THE NET LEVY IMPACT IS ACTUALLY ONLY ABOUT $23,000 INSTEAD OF THE FULL EXPENDITURE AMOUNT. 
          UM, SO JUST WANTED TO KIND OF EXPLAIN HOW THAT WORKS. 
          SO THE MOVING PARTS WITH THAT ARE ON THE REVENUE AND THE EXPENSE SIDE, BUT, UM, THAT IS ONE, ONE CHANGE THAT'S BEING BUILT INTO THIS BUDGET. 
          UM, AND, AND YOU'LL, YOU'LL REALLY SEE THAT IN, IN 2027. 
          UM, BASICALLY WE, WE BUDGETED ONE TIME REVENUE IN 2026, AND THEN THAT EXPENSE GOES AWAY ALTOGETHER IN 2027. 
          SO ESSENTIALLY WE'VE STOPPED LEVYING FOR IT IN THIS BUDGET. 
          ANY, UM, THAT WAS THE EXTENT OF MY NOTES ON THE COUNTY ATTORNEY, BUT, UM, THE QUESTION I HAVE IS WITH REGARDS TO THE PURCHASE SERVICES OF THE COUNTY ATTORNEY, UH, THE 2024 ACTUAL WAS 134,000 AND THEY BUDGETED 18,000. 
          I MEAN, IS WAS THAT AN ANOMALY THAT IT WAS SO HIGH ONE YEAR? YEAH. 
          UM, SOMETHING FOR SOMETHING SPECIFIC OR IT, IT WOULD BE SOMETHING SPECIFIC, MOST LIKELY THAT WAS, UM, PURCHASE LEGAL SERVICES RELATED TO THE CLOSURE OF SAMARITAN. 
          OH, GOTCHA. 
          SO THAT WON'T COME UP AGAIN. 
          RIGHT. 
          OR HOPEFULLY. 
          AND, AND THOSE WERE FUNDED WITH ONE TIME DOLLARS THAT WERE ALLOCATED BY THE BOARD AND, AND SO IT LOOKS LIKE A BIG EXPENSE JUMP THERE, BUT THAT WAS A ONE TIME BLIP THAT WE DO, WE HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT THAT WITH THE SALE OF U-W-M-W-C? UH, YES, THAT'S, THAT'S DEFINITELY POSSIBLE. 
          UM, THAT'S THE, WHEN THINGS LIKE THIS HAPPEN THOUGH, UM, THAT'S SOMETHING WE TYPICALLY DON'T BUDGET FOR IT. 
          IT'S SOMETHING THAT WE WOULD ADDRESS WITH CONTINGENCY FUNDS OR AS IT HAPPENS AND AS WE KNOW A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT WHAT WE THINK IT MIGHT COST, UM, AS WE GET CLOSER TO THE, TO THE THING, UM, THAT'S TYPICALLY HOW WE ADDRESS. 
          SO THE EXPECTATION IS THERE, BUT YOU'RE COVERING IT CORRECT. 
          IN OTHER AREA. 
          OKAY. 
          CORRECT. 
          I JUST DIDN'T WANT TO MAKE SURE WE DIDN'T HAVE THIS POP UP EVERY YEAR OR SOMETHING. 
          RIGHT. 
          YEAH. 
          MAKES SENSE. 
          THANKS FOR ASKING. 
          OKAY, THANK YOU. 
          YEAH, AS THE COUNTY ATTORNEY HAD EXPRESSED IN THE LAST MEETING, THERE ARE GOING TO BE COSTS BECAUSE THERE HAS TO BE AN EASEMENT UP TO THE WATER TOWER FOR THE CITY AND SEVERAL OTHER THINGS LIKE THAT, SO IT WON'T BE A SIMPLE TRANSACTION. 
          YEAH. 
          AS LONG AS WE HAVE A CONTINGENCY FOR THAT THOUGH, I GUESS, RIGHT? CORRECT. 
          THAT IT BLINDSIDES US AND, OKAY. 
          ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? OKAY, WE CAN MOVE ON. 
          ALRIGHT, UM, NEXT WE WILL MOVE INTO THE COUNTY BOARD BUDGET. 
          UM, ONE BIG, ONE BIG CHANGE IN HERE IS THAT THERE'S A, UM, A POSITION INCLUDED, UM, WORKING TITLE BEING CHIEF OF STAFF, SOMETHING LIKE CHIEF OF STAFF. 
          UM, THE COSTS OF THE, THERE'S SOME MOVING PARTS IN THIS BUDGET. 
          THE COSTS OF THE LEGISLATIVE CLERK GET SHIFTED INTO THE COUNTY CLERK'S BUDGET AREA AND THE COSTS FOR THIS NEW POSITION BECOME BUDGETED HERE. 
          UM, WITH THAT POSITION, WE ARE BUILDING IN A REVENUE ASSUMPTION. 
          UM, BASICALLY THE ASSUMPTION IS THAT WE, THE PERSON THAT'S HIRED IN THIS ROLE, AND WE'VE DONE THIS BEFORE WITH, WITH THE POSITION A NUMBER OF YEARS AGO, BUT THE PERSON THAT IS HIRED IN THIS ROLE IS ACTIVELY OUT THERE LOBBYING, RESEARCHING, APPLYING FOR ADDITIONAL FUNDING FOR THE COUNTY, UM, THROUGH, YOU KNOW, THINGS LIKE THE LEGISLATION WE'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT, ABOUT 
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THE, UH, COURT FINES AND FORFEITURES, FOR EXAMPLE. 
          UM, LOBBYING FOR THAT, GETTING THOSE DOLLARS IN THE DOOR, THAT IS SORT OF THE ASSUMPTION THAT'S IN THIS BUDGET. 
          THERE'S $150,000 IN EACH YEAR THAT'S, THAT'S PUT IN FOR THAT ASSUMPTION, UM, WHICH IS EQUIVALENT TO THE COSTS OF THE POSITION. 
          UM, SO THAT ASSUMPTION IS ONE THAT'S IN HERE, UM, FOR THE POSITION AND FOR THE REVENUE THAT COMES WITH THE POSITION. 
          UM, ALSO IN HERE, AND WE'VE TALKED ABOUT THIS BEFORE, UM, THERE'S A, THERE'S A BUDGET IMPACT PLANNED FOR, UM, A, A PAY INCREASE FOR THE COUNTY BOARD. 
          UM, THERE'S A 5% INCREASE, UM, PLANNED FOR, UM, BASICALLY THE START OF THE NEW TERM IN 2026, AND THEN AN ADDITIONAL 5% THAT WOULD START, UM, AT THE BEGINNING OF THE YEAR IN 2027. 
          UM, SO THE, THE COST ON THAT IS ABOUT 15,000. 
          A LITTLE BIT MORE WITH, UM, WITH ANY, ANY TAXES THAT ARE INVOLVED AND ASSOCIATED. 
          BUT, UM, ABOUT $15,000. 
          UM, IS THE YEAR OVER YEAR IMPACT OF, OF THAT CHANGE THAT, THAT ADDITIONAL PERSON POSITION? UM, I'VE TALKED EXTENSIVELY WITH WAUKESHA COUNTY. 
          THEY ACTUALLY HAVE TWO AND A HALF PEOPLE SERVING THEIR BOARD, BUT THEY HAVE A LOBBYIST AND A CHIEF OF STAFF AND WHAT THOSE PEOPLE DO, LIKE IN THIS CASE, THEY'RE LOBBYING IN MADISON FOR THINGS THAT'LL BENEFIT THE COUNTY. 
          UM, THEY ALSO DO A WHOLE LOT OF RESEARCH FOR THE COUNTY BOARD AND THE COUNTY BOARD CHAIR, UM, WHICH WE'RE NOT EQUIPPED TO DO AT THIS POINT. 
          ALSO. 
          UM, THEY DO OP-ED PIECES FOR THE NEWSPAPERS AT THE REQUEST OF COUNTY BOARD SUPERVISORS. 
          SO, UM, POOR SUPERVISOR BOSER WON'T HAVE TO WRITE HIS OWN STUFF ANYMORE, . 
          BUT ANYWAY, IT'LL GIVE US MORE OF A VOICE. 
          UM, IN THE EVENT THAT WE DON'T HAVE THE SAME COUNTY EXECUTIVE IN A FEW YEARS, WE NEED TO HAVE SOMEONE IN OUR CORNER TO PROTECT US AND REPRESENT US AND PROVIDE ALL THESE OTHER THINGS. 
          IN A WAY IT'S LIKE MIKE FODY WAS BUT EXPANDED A LITTLE BIT. 
          SO, AND THIS PERSON, EXCUSE ME, UH,  AND THIS PERSON REPORTS DIRECTLY TO THE CHAIR YES. 
          AND THE EXECUTIVE COMMITTEE. 
          OKAY. 
          UM, 'CAUSE I THINK THIS IS THE PROBLEM THAT I HAD WITH THE VOTING POSITION AND STUFF LIKE THAT IS, UM, WHEN YOU COME UP WITH A POSITION LIKE THIS AND THEY'RE HERE, WE'RE ONLY HERE AN HOUR OR TWO A WEEK. 
          EXACTLY. 
          THAT PERSON'S HERE ALL DAY. 
          THE EXECUTIVE'S HERE ALL DAY, THE OTHER PEOPLE ARE HERE ALL DAY. 
          IT'S LIKE, I THINK THERE SEEMED TO BE SOME CLOUDINESS OVER WHO THAT PERSON WORKED FOR AND, AND IF WE'RE GOING TO DO THIS, THEN I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THIS PERSON IS EXCLUSIVELY WORKING FOR US AND REPRESENTS THE BOARD. 
          CORRECT. 
          NOT ANY OTHER INTERESTS, INCLUDING THE CLERK'S OFFICE AND NO OFFENSE TO THE CLERK OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT. 
          IT'S JUST THAT I'VE SPOKEN LARGELY TO OUR LEGISLATIVE CLERK ABOUT THIS PARTICULAR ISSUE AND I HAVE VERY STRONG FEELINGS ON THIS THAT THERE, I'M ALWAYS ABOUT KEEPING BOUNDARIES MM-HMM . 
          AND WHERE THEY BELONG. 
          AND, UH, IF THIS IS GONNA BE A STRICTLY, UH, COUNTY BOARD FUNCTION, THEN I CAN CERTAINLY GO ALONG WITH THAT. 
          UM, SO SWITCHING TOPICS, UH, IF I MAY, UM, BEING THAT THIS PAY INCREASES IN THE BUDGET, UH, WE WOULD PASS THE BUDGET AS IT IS ATTORNEY STERN , THEN YOU SAID, UH, THEN BASICALLY YOU WOULD JUST REWRITE THE WAY IT IS ON THING. 
          UM, AND THEN BOSER, UH, SUPERVISOR BOSER HAD INDICATED, WELL, HE FELT THAT NO, IT SHOULD HAVE TO COME BEFORE THE BOARD. 
          SO CAN WE GET SOME CLARIFICATION ON THIS TO MAKE SURE THAT MY UNDERSTANDING, I KIND OF, I I LIKE WHAT YOU'RE SAYING THAT, YOU KNOW, THIS IS, YOU'D HAVE TO PHYSICALLY REMOVE IT FROM THE BUDGET IN ORDER TO DISCOUNT IT. 
          UH, IS WOULD BE MY UNDERSTANDING MM-HMM . 
          YEAH. 
          I, THE, THE FUNCTION OF MY OFFICE IS ONCE THE BUDGET IS PASSED, IF THERE ARE THINGS WITHIN THE BUDGET THAT AFFECT OUR ORDINANCES AS AN OPERATION OF THAT PASSAGE, I DO CLEANUP ORDINANCES, UH, WITHIN THE BUD, I'M SORRY, WITHIN THE CODE THAT DO NOT COME BACK TO THE, THE BOARD BECAUSE THEY'VE ALREADY BEEN APPROVED VIA THE BUDGET RESOLUTION. 
          IF THERE IS A, A REQUEST FOR EXAMPLE, THAT CHANGES THAT, I THINK THAT'S GONNA REALLY HAVE TO COME BEFORE, UM, THE BOARD 
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BEFORE THAT TIME. 
          UH, AARON DAHL AND I WERE TALKING EARLIER TODAY, THAT NORMALLY WHAT HAPPENS IN TERMS OF BUDGET AMENDMENTS IS THOSE THINGS ARE REQUESTED AHEAD OF TIME AND THEN THEY'RE OUT OF ORDER THE NIGHT OF THE ACTUAL, YOU KNOW, BUDGET DISCUSSION BECAUSE WE HAVE TO HAVE ENOUGH TIME TO CONTEMPLATE THOSE AMENDMENTS AND HOW THEY WOULD FIT WITHIN THE BUDGET AND HOW WE'D HANDLE THOSE THINGS. 
          SO THE WAY I SEE IT RIGHT NOW, THE WAY THINGS LOOK, IF THE BUDGET IS PASSED AND THAT RAISE IS PASSED WITHIN THE BUDGET, MY DIRECTIVE IS TO GO AHEAD AND THEN CHANGE THE CODE TO MATCH WHAT THE BUDGET IS ORDERED. 
          IF THERE'S A DIFFERENT PLAN, WE'RE GONNA NEED TO KNOW THAT AND IT'S GONNA HAVE TO BE ESSENTIALLY APPROVED BY THE BOARD THAT WE DO IT THAT WAY AHEAD OF TIME. 
          SO I WOULD, I WOULD SUGGEST THAT WOULD BE AT THE OCTOBER MEETING AND IF THAT'S GONNA BE SOMETHING THAT WE HAVE TO, TO WORRY ABOUT PULLING OUT OF THE, THE BUDGET. 
          SO, UM, I COULD BE WRONG ABOUT THAT IF THERE'S A DIFFERENT WAY THAT THE BUDGET OFFICE WOULD WANT THAT TO GO OR THE CHAIRMAN WANTS THAT TO GO. 
          BUT I'M TALKING VERY GENERICALLY FROM WHERE I SIT, THIS IS WHAT I WOULD EXPECT TO SEE UNLESS THERE'S A DIFFERENT COURSE OF ACTION THAT'S ORDERED. 
          SO, AND I WOULD KIND OF CONCUR, IT'S BEEN MY UNDERSTANDING THAT BYPASSING THE BUDGET, YOU THEREFORE AUTHORIZE WHAT IS IN THE BUDGET THAT IS BASICALLY THE SAME AS BRINGING UP A RESOLUTION OR AN ORDINANCE CHANGE, YOU KNOW, BY VIRTUE OF PASSING THE BUDGET. 
          RIGHT. 
          UNLESS THERE'S AMENDMENT AHEAD OF TIME THAT DIRECTS SOMETHING DIFFERENT. 
          RIGHT. 
          RIGHT. 
          AND SO THEY, THEY WERE TO TRY AND AMEND, AMEND IT THEN WOULD THAT BE SIMPLE MAJORITY OR WOULD THAT BE, UH, THE REQUIREMENT FOR FINANCIALS, WHICH I BELIEVE IS TWO THIRDS, YEAH, TWO THIRDS TO PASS THE BUDGET. 
          I THINK TO PULL THAT OUT OF THE BUDGET AND DO SOMETHING DIFFERENT WITH IT, IT'S LIKELY, I THINK OF JUST MAJORITY. 
          THANK YOU. 
          I HAVE A QUICK COMMENT. 
          SUPERVISOR. 
          SHARIN. 
          THANK YOU CHAIRMAN. 
          UH, JUST A QUICK COMMENT. 
          I MEAN, I KNOW I WAS NOT NECESSARILY ADAMANTLY AGAINST IT, THE RAISE, BUT, UH, I KIND OF SPOKE AGAINST IT, NOT NECESSARY, BUT AFTER HEARING ALL THE DISCUSSIONS AT THE COUNTY BOARD, I GUESS I'M, I'M FINE WITH IT THE WAY IT IS. 
          SO THAT'S MY POSITION. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU. 
          ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? I DID HAVE ONE MORE NOTE ON THE COUNTY BOARD'S BUDGET, UM, WHICH IS, UM, THERE'S A REDUCTION BEING, BEING BUDGETED AND PURCHASED SERVICES. 
          UM, THAT'S A REDUCTION IN THIS BUDGET, BUT IT'S NOT A REDUCTION COUNTYWIDE. 
          BASICALLY THAT'S US SHIFTING THE COSTS FOR, UM, GRANICUS, UM, OUT OF THE COUNTY BOARD BUDGET AREA AND INTO THE COUNTY CLERK AREA. 
          THE COUNTY CLERK'S BUDGET ALREADY HAS SOME COSTS FOR, FOR BROADCASTING AND SUPPORTING, UM, BOARDING COMMITTEE MEETINGS. 
          AND SO WE'RE JUST TRYING TO HOUSE ALL OF THOSE COSTS IN ONE SPOT SO WE DON'T HAVE TO SPLIT BILLS UP AND THINGS LIKE THAT WHEN THEY COME IN. 
          UM, SO THAT WAS THE LAST NOTE I HAD ON THE, ON THE, UM, THE COUNTY BOARD'S BUDGET. 
          UH, WERE THERE ANY, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? UM, YOU MIGHT NOTE OUTLAY IN 2024, 14,895, THAT IS HALF OF THE VEHICLE OUT IN THE PARKING LOT THAT WAS GONNA BE USED FOR GOING TO MADISON FOR LOBBYING. 
          SO WE WILL START USING THAT IF WE FILL THAT OTHER POSITION. 
          ALSO, SOMEWHERE HERE IS MONEY FOR REPLACING OUR LAPTOPS WITH TABLETS IN THE NEXT YEAR. 
          SO THEY'LL COME OUT WHEN WE SEAT THE NEW BOARD IN IN APRIL. 
          OKAY. 
          THAT'S CORRECT. 
          THANK YOU FOR, THANK YOU FOR ADDING THAT. 
          YEAH. 
          ONE MORE QUESTION ON THAT. 
          SO THE COUNTY, UM, CLERK, I, I, I GUESS I UNDERSTAND, YOU KNOW, DID THERE, DOES THAT OFFICE CONTROL ALL MEETINGS OF THE COUNTY AS FAR AS I KNOW THAT THE COUNTY CLERK'S OFFICE CONTROLS BASICALLY THE COUNTY BOARD. 
          SO AS A FUNCTION, ARE ALL OTHER MEETINGS PROCESSED THROUGH THE CLERK'S OFFICE? UM, ASHLEY IS HERE. 
          I THINK I'D RATHER HAVE HER ANSWER THAT ONE . 
          SO ALL STANDING COMMITTEES ARE CLERKED AND STAFFED AND PREPPED, UM, BY MY OFFICE AND THEN COUNTY BOARD IN ADDITION TO SEVERAL OTHER COMMITTEES. 
          UM, WE DON'T CLERK EVERY SINGLE OFFSHOOT COMMITTEE, UM, BUT WE DO PREPARE THE AGENDAS AND SEND THEM ALL TO THE MEDIA AND POST THEM, UM, WHICH IS SOMEWHAT LABOR INTENSIVE TOO. 
          SO WE DO, WE DO, UH, COMPILE AND STORE ALL OF THAT DATA. 
          WHENEVER YOU GO TO OUR WEBSITE AND TAKE A LOOK AT THE MEETINGS, EVERYTHING THAT IS IN THERE AS OF RIGHT NOW IS, IS INPUT BY US, SPECIFICALLY KAYLA'S POSITION. 
          AND, AND THAT'S STATUTORILY. 
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UM, I THINK WE'VE ALWAYS WANTED TO HOUSE ALL OF THE COMMITTEES THAT OUR BOARD OR SO OUR BOARD MEMBERS ARE SEATED ON OR COUNTY STAFF IS, UM, MANAGING. 
          OKAY. 
          AND, UM, AS FAR AS BROADCAST GO, UH, IS THAT, DOES THAT CREATE, UH, A DIFFICULTY OR HARDSHIP FOR THE CLERK'S BUDGET? SO, SO A LITTLE HISTORY ON THE BROADCASTING FOR SWAG. 
          WHEN WE FIRST PURCHASED SWAG, UH, WHICH WAS IN 2019, SO EVEN BEFORE WE DID THIS ROOM, UM, WE HAD BEEN WORKING THROUGH THE PURCHASE OF, OF THIS SYSTEM. 
          UM, WHEN, UH, THE, I'LL SAY MIKE FODY POSITION WAS CREATED, IT WAS THAT THAT POSITION WOULD BE THE ONE DOING WHAT I'M DOING RIGHT HERE, WHICH IS STREAMING THE MEETING, UM, RATHER THAN US PAYING FOR SWAG TO PROVIDE THAT SERVICE, WHICH I THINK AT THE TIME WAS ANYWHERE BETWEEN 15 AND 20,000 FOR STANDING COMMITTEE MEETINGS AND THE BOARD MEETING PER YEAR. 
          SO AS OF RIGHT NOW, I'M DOING THAT. 
          UM, SO THEN IN FUTURE BUDGETS, UM, THE LEGISLATIVE CLERK POSITION IS THAT, THAT'S STILL UNDER THE, UNDER THE CLERK'S OFFICE, SO YES, KAYLA'S AND YEP. 
          WOULD STILL BE HERE, CORRECT? MM-HMM . 
          AND THEN THIS WOULD THIS OTHER, THIS NEW POSITION, WOULD THEY THEN TAKE OVER THAT? OR WHERE, WHERE ARE THEY INVOLVED? I DON'T KNOW ANY THAT AT ALL. 
          I HAVE NO IDEA. 
          STRICTLY UP TO YOU. 
          I HAVE NO IDEA. 
          SO ARE YOU, THEY'LL HAVE TO WORK THROUGH THAT. 
          OKAY. 
          THAT'S KIND OF WHERE I WAS GETTING AT. 
          I WOULD ANTICIPATE THAT PERSON IS GONNA BE AT ALL OUR MEETINGS BECAUSE ANOTHER RESPONSIBILITY IS GONNA BE THAT PERSON THAT'S GONNA BE THE PARLIAMENTARIAN BECAUSE THAT STANDING COMMITTEE MEETINGS, THE ATTORNEY'S OFFICE DOESN'T ALWAYS, IF THERE'S NOT MUCH ON THE AGENDA, THEY DON'T COME. 
          SO THEN WE NEED A PARLIAMENTARIAN TO KEEP US ON THE LINE, KEEP US ON THE STRAIGHT AND NARROW, SO. 
          OKAY. 
          ALRIGHT. 
          AND EXCUSE ME, ONE, ONE LAST STATEMENT. 
          DON'T READ ANYTHING INTO ANY OF THIS. 
          I'M JUST TRYING TO KIND OF GET A FEEL OF WHERE I STAND HERE OR WHAT'S, WHERE WE ARE. 
          THAT'S ALL. 
          OKAY. 
          YEAH. 
          YOU MIGHT RECALL WHEN WE WENT TO SWAG, WE, WEST BEND TV WAS FILMING THE MEETINGS BEFORE THAT. 
          AND WE HAD A COST SAVINGS, I BELIEVE, WHEN WE WENT TO SWAG. 
          AND THEY PROMISED US ALL KINDS OF NEAT THINGS, SOME OF WHICH HAVE HAPPENED AND SOME OF WHICH HAVEN'T. 
          BUT THAT'S, I THINK IT'S RUNNING GREAT RIGHT NOW. 
          IT WAS JUST A LITTLE BIT OF A TRANSITION WHEN I, UH, LOST A MEMBER OF MY TEAM. 
          OKAY. 
          SUPERVISOR SCHWAB. 
          THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN. 
          UM, I JUST HAVE A QUESTION ABOUT THE REVENUES AND OTHER SOURCES. 
          THE $150,000 FIGURE, UM, THAT WE EXPECT AN INDIVIDUAL TO BE ABLE TO GARNISH FROM GRANTS. 
          HOW DID WE ARRIVE AT THAT? AND IS THAT PRETTY REALISTIC, OR, I MEAN, IS IT, I'D HATE TO HAVE SOMEBODY IN THE POSITION AND SAY, OH, BY THE WAY, YOU HAVE TO SELL FUND AND, YOU KNOW. 
          YEAH, I MEAN, THE $150,000 CHALLENGE, IT, IT 150,000 IS BASICALLY WHAT THAT POSITION COSTS, RIGHT? SO THAT, THAT'S WHERE THAT NUMBER CAME FROM. 
          IS IT OUR OPINION, IS IT YOUR OPINION THAT GRANTS ARE READILY AVAILABLE, UM, FROM THE STATE, FROM, I DON'T KNOW, WISCONSIN COUNTY'S ASSOCIATION FROM WHEREVER TO COVER THOSE COSTS? YOU KNOW, I, I CERTAINLY, THE INNOVATION FUND, UM, IS, IS ONE THING THAT'S OUT THERE, BUT I THINK WHEN WE WERE THINKING OF THE REVENUE, UM, YOU KNOW, WE WERE THINKING OF ALSO THINGS LIKE THIS COURT FINE AND FORFEITURE BILL, FOR EXAMPLE. 
          UM, WE EXPECT THAT THAT WOULD RESULT IN, YOU KNOW, ALMOST $300,000 OF ADDITIONAL REVENUE RIGHT OFF THE BAT. 
          SO, YOU KNOW, TO, TO LAND A, UH, TO LAND SOMETHING LIKE THAT WOULD CERTAINLY COVER THIS. 
          UM, AND THEN SOME. 
          UM, AND SO, SO IT WAS SORT OF A MIX OF, OF ALL OF THOSE REVENUE OPTIONS AND, AND, UM, YOU KNOW, I, I BELIEVE THERE'S, THERE'S A LOT OF OPPORTUNITY OUT THERE. 
          UM, I'M, I, I DON'T HAVE A, A TOTAL OR A TALLY OF, OF, OF ANYTHING LIKE THAT, BUT, UM, I BELIEVE THERE IS AN OPPORTUNITY OUT THERE FOR THAT. 
          I JUST WOULDN'T WANNA PUT A NEW A, A PERSON INTO A NEW POSITION AND THEN HAVE THEM IMMEDIATELY STRUGGLE TO, TO ACHIEVE THAT. 
          UM, IF WE WEREN'T, YOU KNOW, LIKE 99% CERTAIN, IT'S, IT'S READILY ACHIEVABLE BY AN AVERAGE ACHIEVER, RIGHT? MM-HMM . 
          YEAH. 
          THAT'S UNDERSTOOD. 
          AND, AND, YOU KNOW, THE LAST TIME WE DID THIS, UM, WHEN THAT, AS THAT PERSON'S COMING IN, THERE ARE A 
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NUMBER OF THINGS ALREADY IDENTIFIED WHERE WE'RE SAYING, HEY, GO OUT AND INVESTIGATE THIS. 
          HERE'S YOUR LIST OF LEADS. 
          RIGHT. 
          GO OUT AND GET STARTED ON THESE THINGS FIRST. 
          UM, SO I WOULD ANTICIPATE THAT THAT WOULD HAPPEN AS WELL ON THIS. 
          THANK YOU. 
          SURE. 
          JUST TO KIND OF BUILD ON, UM, SUPERVISOR SCHWAB'S QUESTION AND COMMENTS, WOULD YOU SAY THAT THIS IS A FAIRLY CONSERVATIVE REVENUE AND OTHER SOURCES AMOUNT AT 150, ESPECIALLY WHEN YOU MAKE THE COMMENT THAT THERE MIGHT BE SOMEWHAT A BOOK OF BUSINESS, IF YOU WOULD, YOU KNOW, THERE'S, WE KNOW OF FOUR GRANTS RIGHT NOW. 
          UM, DID, IS THIS FAIRLY CONSERVATIVE OR IS THIS LIKE, I WOULD SAY HOT IN THE SKY OR IN THE, I WOULD SAY IT'S MIDDLE OF THE ROAD. 
          OKAY. 
          MIDDLE OF THE ROAD. 
          UM, BEING HONEST, IT WAS MIDDLE OF THE ROAD. 
          UM, IT'S, IT, THERE ARE, THERE ARE OPPORTUNITIES OUT THERE THAT ARE BIGGER THAN THIS NUMBER, BUT IT'S GONNA TAKE SOME WORK, SO, OKAY. 
          THANK YOU. 
          SURE. 
          BUT THE THOUGHT IS THAT THERE ARE SOME LOW HANGING HANGING FRUITS AND, UM, YOU KNOW, ONCE WE GET THIS POSITION GOING, IT'S, I THINK IT'S GONNA PROVE ITSELF. 
          SO AFTER TWO YEARS, THERE'LL BE NO QUESTION ABOUT PUTTING IT IN THE BUDGET, UM, ESPECIALLY IF WE HAVE A DIFFERENT COUNTY EXECUTIVE. 
          SO, AND THIS, UH, THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN. 
          THIS IS ONE THING THOUGH TOO THAT I, THAT I AGREE WITH, UH, WITH MR. DAHL ON. 
          UM, THERE'S A LOT OF OPPORTUNITY. 
          WASHINGTON COUNTY AND MY 10 YEARS ON THE BOARD'S BEEN NOTORIOUSLY BAD AT GETTING GRANTS AS FAR AS COMPARED TO A LOT OF OTHER COUNTIES WHERE THEY LOOK AT THE DEMOGRAPHIC AND IT SEEMS LIKE THEY GET GRANTS LIKE CRAZY. 
          AND WE DON'T, WHEN YOU CONSIDER THAT WE'RE AT 80 20 ON OUR COURTS, YOU KNOW, ALONE, THERE'S TONS OF OPPORTUNITY THERE IN JUST, YOU KNOW, UH, UH, ASSISTANT DA POSITIONS AND ALL KINDS OF FUNDING THAT COULD BE DONE JUST RIGHT THERE. 
          HUMAN SERVICES, I SERVED AS THE VICE CHAIR OF, OF AIRPORT, AND, YOU KNOW, THERE'S LOTS IN HUMAN SERVICES GRANTS ALL THE TIME, AND HOW MANY ARE WE REALLY CAPTURING? UM, IS THERE, YOU KNOW, AND IT'S NOT JUST A MATTER OF THAT WE'RE WRITING GRANTS, BUT IF WE HAVE SOMEBODY ACTIVELY SOLICITING THOSE GRANTS IN, IN MADISON, THAT MIGHT MAKE A HUGE DIFFERENCE. 
          AND CERTAINLY IN MY COMMITTEE, LAND USE AND PLANNING, THERE'S GRANTS ALL OVER THE PLACE, ENVIRONMENTAL GRANTS AND, AND ALL THAT. 
          NOW, WE MAY NOT NECESSARILY WANT ALL THOSE GRANTS DEPENDING ON WHAT THEY'RE TIED TO, BUT I DO BELIEVE THERE, THERE ARE AT LEAST A DOZEN DIFFERENT WAYS FROM SUNDAY THAT YOU HAVE AT LEAST LEADS. 
          NOT SAYING THAT IT NECESSARILY BECOMES FRUIT, BUT THERE'S CERTAINLY, YOU KNOW, I THINK PLENTY THERE. 
          SO I WOULD AGREE WITH THAT PART OF THIS, THAT ABSOLUTELY THEY COULD DO THIS. 
          ANYONE ELSE? GREAT. 
          UM, THANK YOU. 
          SO NEXT UP IS COUNTY CLERK. 
          COUNTY CLERK. 
          UM, SO STARTING WITH, UM, THE EXPENDITURE SIDE, UM, THERE'S SOME MOVING PARTS IN THE PERSONNEL AS WE SORT OF ALLUDED TO WITH THE COUNTY BOARD. 
          UM, ONE THING WE'RE SEEING IN COUNTY, IN THE COUNTY CLERK'S BUDGET IS THE BUDGET TO BUDGET IMPACT OF A POSITION REDUCTION, UM, THAT WE ACTUALLY MADE LAST BUDGET. 
          WE ONE TIME FUNDED, UM, A POSITION WE KNEW, UM, THE INCUMBENT WAS RETIRING, AND WHEN THE PERSON RETIRED, WE WOULD LOOK TO SHIFT THAT WORKLOAD ELSEWHERE IN THE ORGANIZATION. 
          SO THE BUDGET TO BUDGET IMPACT OF THAT IS IN HERE. 
          UM, THAT, UM, THAT FUNCTION WAS, UM, PROPERTY AND LIABILITY INSURANCE AND CENTRAL PRINTING. 
          UM, SO, SO THOSE, THOSE AT ONE TIME WERE ALSO BUDGET AREAS IN THIS, IN THIS BUDGET, COST CENTERS WITHIN THIS BUDGET. 
          AND SO THOSE COST CENTERS HAVE BEEN REMOVED AS WELL. 
          UM, THE FINANCE DEPARTMENT HAS ABSORBED, UH, THESE FUNCTIONS INTO THEIR EXISTING OPERATIONS. 
          UM, YOU KNOW, WE HAVEN'T REALLY RUN A PRINT SHOP FOR QUITE SOME TIME, SO A LOT OF THIS IS JUST MANAGING RELATIONSHIPS WITH A PRINT VENDOR, UM, AND, AND THINGS LIKE THAT, THAT OUR, OUR PURCHASING DEPARTMENT IS, IS ABLE TO HANDLE. 
          AND SO, UM, SO THAT IS ONE CHANGE THAT WE'RE FULLY SEEING NOW IN THIS BUDGET. 
          UM, ALSO, AS I MENTIONED, THE COST FOR THE LEGISLATIVE CLERK CLERK POSITION HAVE BEEN SHIFTED INTO THIS BUDGET. 
          UM, AND THEN FINALLY THERE WAS, UM, CURRENTLY, AND, AND IN THE 24 25 BUDGET, THERE IS A POSITION BEING SHARED, UM, 50 50 WITH THE FINANCE DEPARTMENT, UH, AND THE COUNTY CLERK, UM, IN THIS BUDGET THAT, THAT POSITION WILL NOW BE SHARED BETWEEN THE FINANCE DEPARTMENT AND THE REGISTER OF DEEDS. 
          AND SO, UM, LAND USE AND PLANNING WILL HEAR ABOUT THAT, UM, THAT CHANGE, UM, TOMORROW. 
          BUT, UM, YOU'LL SEE THAT, THAT THE NET IMPACT OF ALL THOSE POSITION CHANGES IS THAT HALF, UH, THAT, THAT 0.5 
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FTE SHIFTING OUT, THAT'S THE FTE CHANGES ARE SORT OF ON THE BOTTOM, UH, OF THE FINANCIAL TABLE THAT WE SHOW. 
          SO THE NET IMPACT IS A, UM, YOU KNOW, ABOUT ABOUT $25,000 EXPENDITURE REDUCTION OVERALL. 
          UM, SO A LOT OF MOVING PARTS IN PERSONNEL, BUT REALLY THAT, THAT SORT OF HELPS TO DESCRIBE WHAT THOSE, WHAT WHAT THOSE ARE. 
          UM, WE'RE ALSO IN THIS BUDGET, UH, WE'RE BUDGETING TO MAKE, UM, THE ELECTION INTEGRITY INITIATIVES PERMANENT. 
          SO THERE'S $50,000 IN THERE, UM, FOR EACH YEAR. 
          AND WE BUDGET FOR ELECTION INTEGRITY A LOT. 
          LIKE WE BUDGET FOR JUST ELECTIONS OVER OVERALL. 
          UM, WE KNOW IN ONE YEAR ELECTIONS ARE, ARE BUSIER THAN IN ANOTHER YEAR, SO WE TRY TO BUDGET AN AVERAGE AMOUNT AND THEN IN THE LOW YEARS WE CARRY THAT OVER AND THEN WE SPEND IT IN THE, IN THE HIGH YEARS. 
          UM, AND SO WE WOULD, WE WOULD TAKE THAT SAME APPROACH, UH, WITH THE ELECTION INTEGRITY INITIATIVES. 
          UH, WE THINK $50,000 IS, IS AN ADEQUATE NUMBER. 
          WE'VE BEEN THROUGH ONLY TWO ROUNDS OF THIS ELECTION INTEGRITY, UM, WORK. 
          SO THERE MAY BE AN OPPORTUNITY TO FINE TUNE THAT NUMBER IN FUTURE BUDGETS, BUT 50,000 IS THE, THE NUMBER THAT, THAT WE ARRIVED AT FOR, FOR THIS YEAR. 
          UM, AND THEN REALLY, UM, YOU KNOW, I, I HAD MENTIONED, UM, THE INTERDEPARTMENTAL CHARGES. 
          SO THAT'S THAT $20,000, UH, $21,000 INCREASE IN INTERDEPARTMENTAL. 
          UM, SOME OF THAT IS IT AND OTHER TYPES OF COSTS, BUT REALLY THE BIG JUMP WAS THE SHIFT OF THAT, THAT GRANICUS, UM, SOFTWARE PIECE FROM THE BOARD INTO THE CLERKS AREA. 
          UM, AND SO THOSE, THOSE WERE MY NOTES ON THE COUNTY CLERK'S BUDGET, BUT UH, WE DO HAVE THE CLERK HERE AS WELL. 
          UM, IF YOU'VE GOT QUESTIONS. 
          UM, I HAVE ONE QUESTION. 
          UM, WE LOST MARY SCHLITT, THE DEPUTY CLERK. 
          THAT POSITION IS STILL IN HERE AND FUNDED. 
          THAT'S CORRECT. 
          WE'RE IN THE PROCESS OF REPLACING IT. 
          MM-HMM . 
          YES, THAT'S CORRECT. 
          SUPERVISOR CHADRON. 
          THANK YOU, CHAIRMAN. 
          UH, THE ONLY QUESTION I HAVE IS WHEN YOU SHARE POSITIONS WITH OTHER DEPARTMENTS, DO YOU EVER HAVE A PROBLEM? I I DON'T KNOW IF THIS IS AN ASHLEY QUESTION OR FOR YOU, DO YOU EVER HAVE ANY ISSUES WITH THE CLASHING OF, OKAY, THEY'RE PULLING ME HERE, BUT I GOTTA BE HERE. 
          DOES THAT WORK PRETTY WELL, PRETTY SMOOTHLY OR? SO I, I WOULD SAY WITH THE POSITION THAT WE SHARED WITH FINANCE, IT ACTUALLY WORKED REALLY WELL. 
          UH, THAT POSITION WAS IN MY OFFICE FROM SEVEN TO NINE, AND THEN FROM THREE TO FIVE 30, AND THEN DURING THE DAY THAT TIME WAS SPENT WITH FINANCE, UM, BECAUSE OF OUR EXTENDED HOURS, THAT WAS EXTREMELY HELPFUL, ESPECIALLY MONDAY AND TUESDAY WHEN I HAVE LIMITED STAFF. 
          SO, SO IT DOES BENEFIT YOU THEN? IT DOES, BUT THAT POSITION IS MOVING. 
          MM-HMM . 
          THAT'S THE ONE THAT'S MOVING. 
          OH, GOTCHA. 
          OKAY. 
          THANK YOU. 
          SO, YOU KNOW, WITH THAT MOVE, UM, IDEALLY THOSE SAME SYNERGIES WORK WITH, WITH THE REGISTER OF DEEDS OFFICE AS WELL AND THEIR EXTENDED HOURS. 
          YEAH. 
          OKAY. 
          THANK YOU. 
          ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? ALL RIGHT. 
          COUNTY EXECUTIVE. 
          OKAY. 
          MOVING INTO THE COUNTY EXECUTIVE BUDGET. 
          UM, THERE, THIS IS ANOTHER ONE WHERE THERE'S NOT A LOT OF CHANGES OR MOVING PARTS. 
          UM, THERE'S SOME PERSONNEL COST INCREASES. 
          UH, WE HAD, UM, UH, SIMILAR TO MY REPORT IN THE B, THE BPA, WE HAD MARKET PAY ADJUSTMENTS, UM, AND WE HAD HEALTH INSURANCE COSTS INCREASE HERE. 
          UM, IN A LOT OF DEPARTMENTS WE HAD HEALTH INSURANCE, UM, UH, SORT OF EITHER, EITHER SIGNIFICANT INCREASE OR FLAT. 
          IT WAS ALMOST LIKE, UM, AN INTERESTING PHENOMENON BECAUSE WE, WE CREATED, UM, THE, THE FOUR, THE FOUR PLAN OPTIONS LAST YEAR. 
          UM, AND SO THAT, THAT SORT OF CHANGED KIND OF HOW, UM, THE INSURANCE LOOKED FROM A BUDGET TO BUDGET PERSPECTIVE. 
          SO, UM, YOU'LL SEE SOME, SOME COST INCREASE HERE FOR PERSONNEL. 
          UM, AND THAT IS THE INSURANCE AND THE MARKET ADJUSTMENTS. 
          UM, THE, UH, OTHER SIGNIFICANT, I GUESS, INCREASE HERE IS THE $11,000. 
          THAT'S, THAT'S AN INCREASE, UM, FOR IT CHARGES. 
          UM, YOU'LL REMEMBER THAT OUR IT CHARGES BASED ON A PER DEVICE CALCULATION. 
          UM, WHAT THIS REPRESENTS IS, IS JUST, UM, THE, THE NUMBER OF DEVICES, UH, IN THE EXECUTIVE'S OFFICE GREW BY A LITTLE BIT AND, AND REDUCED IN OTHER AREAS. 
          SO, UH, THEY BASICALLY, THIS, THIS 
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BUDGET, UM, BEARS A LARGER SHARE OF THAT IT COST. 
          UM, AND THEN THE FINAL CHANGE, UM, IT'S, IT'S HARD TO DETECT IN HERE, BUT, UM, THE COST FOR THE EMPLOYEE APPRECIATION PARTY AND BUDGET, UM, HAVE BEEN MOVED FROM THE EX COUNTY EXECUTIVES BUDGET INTO THE HUMAN RESOURCES, UM, BUDGET AREA. 
          THAT'S REALLY JUST SORT OF A, A, THAT TECHNICAL KIND OF A CHANGE JUST, UM, IN TERMS OF WHO, WHO DOES THE APPROVALS AND THE, AND THE MOVING PARTS, WHERE DOES THAT SHOW UP? THAT WE'VE ACTUALLY, UH, IT WOULD'VE BEEN IN OTHER EXPENSES. 
          OKAY. 
          BUT WE RESTATED IT OUT OF THERE. 
          UM, YOU'LL SEE IT IN A, IN A COUPLE OF MOMENTS WITH, UH, HR. 
          I, I'LL POINT IT OUT IN THE HR SECTION. 
          THANK YOU. 
          SURE. 
          MR. CHAIRMAN, SUPERVISOR KELLY. 
          THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN. 
          UH, WOULD IT BE PRUDENT OR, I DON'T KNOW, GET YOUR THOUGHTS ON THIS? I'M, I'M NOT SURE. 
          SHOULD WE BE SINGLING OUT THE INSURANCE, UH, INCREASES AS OPPOSED TO ACTUAL PERSONNEL COSTS, DIVIDING THOSE SO WE HAVE KIND OF AN IDEA OF WHERE OUR INSURANCE IS GOING AND WHERE OUR PERSONNEL COSTS GOING? I THINK IT KIND OF, WE, WE DEFINITELY DO. 
          UM, YOU'LL SEE IN THE LINE ITEMS THAT WITHIN THE PERSONNEL LINE HERE, WE'VE GOT LINES FOR EVERYTHING, WORKERS' COMPENSATION, LONG-TERM DISABILITY, SHORT-TERM DISABILITY, YOU'LL SEE IT ALL IN HERE. 
          UM, AND SO WE DO BREAK OUT THE HEALTH INSURANCE SPECIFIC. 
          UH, WE'LL, YOU CAN SEE THE FICA, YOU CAN SEE THE WRS, ALL OF THAT STUFF WILL BE, IT'S ALL, IT'S ALL ROLLED UP INTO PERSONNEL HERE. 
          I JUST SEE, UM, INSURANCE AND BENEFITS AND THINGS LIKE THAT AS BEING KIND OF A SET COST. 
          UH, WHEREAS PAY CAN BE A VARIABLE COST. 
          SO, YOU KNOW, KIND OF COMBINING THOSE TWO, I DON'T THINK JUST GIVES ME A CLEAR ENOUGH PICTURE. 
          SURE. 
          KEEPING THEM SEPARATED. 
          I UNDERSTAND IT'S THE TOTAL COMPENSATION PACKAGE. 
          MM-HMM . 
          YOU KNOW, AND, AND THAT ULTIMATELY IS GONNA BE WHAT IT COSTS YOU FOR EMPLOYEES. 
          BUT, UM, WE TRACK HEALTHCARE COSTS SO MUCH, YOU KNOW, AND BENEFIT COSTS. 
          UH, I THINK IT'S JUST ONE OF THOSE THINGS I'D LIKE TO SEE SEPARATION ON OR SOMETHING, BUT SURE. 
          SURE. 
          YEAH. 
          , GO AHEAD, SUPERVISOR. 
          SHARIN. 
          THANK YOU, CHAIRMAN. 
          UH, YEAH, THAT'S WHAT'S NICE ABOUT HAVING THE DETAILED STUFF 'CAUSE WE DO THIS TOO WITH THE UNIONS AND THAT THERE'S SO MANY BREAKOUTS, BUT WE LOOK AT THE FULL PACKAGE ON HERE. 
          OTHERWISE YOU'D HAVE 80 PAGES OF STUFF. 
          SO IT'S NICE GETTING A RECAP HERE, BUT EXECUTIVE SUMMARY. 
          YEAH, EXACTLY. 
          SO THAT'S MY COMMENT. 
          THANK YOU. 
          SUPERVISOR SCHULTY. 
          YES. 
          UM, CAN YOU EXPLAIN IN THE, UM, EXPENDITURE AND OTHER USES AARON ABOUT THE, UM, REMOVAL OF THE ANNUAL SUBSCRIPTION DUES? SURE. 
          WHAT, WHAT ARE THOSE? UM, THAT IS THE, THAT IS ANNUAL DUES TO M SEVEN, RIGHT? YES. 
          OKAY. 
          UM, OF WHICH WE'VE, WE HAVEN'T DONE THAT, WE HAVEN'T DONE THAT IN A NUMBER OF YEARS, SO WE, WE PULLED THAT OUT OF THE BUDGET. 
          I DON'T EVEN KNOW WHAT M SEVEN MILWAUKEE. 
          GO AHEAD. 
          REGIONAL. 
          IT'S A REGIONAL, YEAH, IT'S A, YEAH, A REGIONAL MILWAUKEE SEVEN. 
          OKAY. 
          THANK YOU. 
          COOL. 
          ANYTHING ELSE? THEN WE'LL MOVE ON TO COUNTY TREASURER. 
          OKAY, THANK YOU. 
          UM, SIMILAR TO OTHER AREAS, THE TREASURER IS BROKEN INTO A COUPLE OF BUDGET SECTIONS, REAL PROPERTY LISTER AND THE COUNTY TREASURER PROPER. 
          UM, STARTING IN THE COUNTY TREASURER AREA, THE, UH, INTEREST ON INVESTMENTS IS IN THE INTEREST EARNINGS LINE. 
          UM, THERE'S A SIGNIFICANT JUMP THERE AND, AND REALLY THAT NUMBER, UM, ESSENTIALLY IT REPRESENTS, UH, OUR, OUR BUDGET REPAIR BILL, UM, ABOUT, UH, ALMOST A YEAR AGO NOW, UM, RECOGNIZED THE ADDITIONAL IN INTEREST ON INVESTMENTS THAT WE WERE EARNING AND ACHIEVING. 
          AND WHEN WE MADE THAT ADJUSTMENT, UM, WE INCREASED THAT REVENUE LINE. 
          THAT ADJUSTMENT IS REFLECTED HERE. 
          WE'VE NOT INCREASED IT FROM THAT, BUT THIS IS THE FIRST TIME YOU'RE GONNA BE SEEING THE BUDGET TO BUDGET CHANGE THAT WE APPROVED A YEAR AGO. 
          SO THAT THAT'S, UM, A, A SIGNIFICANT REVENUE INCREASE IN HERE OF $470,000. 
          UM, THE, UM, ANOTHER NOTE HERE IS THAT, UM, THE COSTS FOR, UM, PRINTING TAX BILLS WENT UP A LITTLE BIT. 
          UM, ABOUT $15,000 
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POSTAGE IS A BIG DRIVER OF, OF THAT FOR PRINTING THE TAX BILLS. 
          UM, 'CAUSE POSTAGE IS BAKED INTO THE TOTAL PRINTING COSTS THAT THEY CITE FOR US. 
          UM, SO OVERALL THAT'S ABOUT $75,000. 
          THAT'S A, A SHARED, UH, SHARED SERVICE THAT, THAT WE PROVIDE, THAT WE, THAT WE TALK ABOUT. 
          UM, BUT THAT IS IN HERE AS, UM, AS A, AS A A BUDGET ITEM. 
          UM, AND THEN MOVING INTO THE REAL PROPERTY AREA, UM, REALLY THE BIG CHANGE HERE IS THAT, UM, WE'VE STOPPED LEVYING FOR THE REAL PROPERTY LISTER POSITION. 
          UM, THERE'S A BELIEF, UH, THAT WE CAN, UH, ABSORB AND RESTRUCTURE SOME OF THE DUTIES OF THIS ROLE, UM, TO MAKE SURE THIS IMPORTANT FUNCTION CONTINUES. 
          UM, BUT TO DO IT MAYBE IN, IN A DIFFERENT WAY. 
          UM, SO THE BUDGET HERE FOR THE TREASURER HAS, SIMILAR TO THE CONCEPT I DESCRIBED WITH THE COUNTY CLERK'S BUDGET FROM LAST TIME, WE'RE USING ONE TIME FUNDING IN 2026 TO FUND THE POSITION. 
          SO WE'RE, WE'VE STOPPED LEVYING FOR IT. 
          AND THEN IN 2027, THOSE COSTS GET REMOVED ALTOGETHER, ASSUMING THAT THOSE DUTIES THEN GET SHIFTED ELSEWHERE AFTER THAT RETIREMENT. 
          UM, SO THAT IS, THAT IS THE SIGNIFICANT CHANGES IN THIS BUDGET. 
          UM, THIS IS ONE OF THOSE BUDGETS THAT HAS, UH, A FEE SCHEDULE ATTACHED. 
          SO I WANTED TO KIND OF DRAW YOUR ATTENTION TO THAT, UM, ON THE NEXT PAGE OF THE PACKAGE, JUST TO MAKE SURE YOU DON'T HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OR CONCERNS ABOUT THAT, UM, EITHER. 
          BUT THOSE WERE THE EXTENT, UH, THAT'S THE EXTENT OF MY NOTES ON, ON THE TREASURER'S BUDGET. 
          UM, BUT I DO SEE THE TREASURER IS HERE, IF THERE ARE SPECIFIC QUESTIONS. 
          SUPERVISOR KELLY. 
          UM, THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN. 
          UM, TAX BILLS, JUST WANT TO KIND OF GET AN UNDERSTANDING OF THIS. 
          WE ACTUALLY DO THE PRINTING FOR THE WHOLE COUNTY DO. 
          YES. 
          UH, ? YES. 
          THE, UM, UH, ALL OF THE, ALL THE TAX BILLS ARE SENT VIA PDF FILES TO A PRINTER MAILER, AND ALSO ALL OF THE MUNICIPALITIES ALSO SEND ALL OF THEIR OTHER STUFF THAT THEY, STUFF INSIDE, THEY GET PRINTED IN THE SAME THING AND ALL BROUGHT TOGETHER AND SENT OUT FROM THAT PRINTED SYSTEM. 
          SO WE ORGANIZE IT, UM, KIND OF SEND OUT ALL THE INFORMATION, AND THEN, UH, I'M ASSUMING THE LOCAL MUNICIPALITIES THEN DO THE ACTUAL TAX COLLECTION FOR THEIR, LIKE, I GO TO WEST BEND, OBVIOUSLY, AND I PAY MY, MY, MY OFFICE MAKES THE TAX BILL, MY OFFICE SENDS THE FILE, THE PRINTER AND CO PUTS EVERYTHING TOGETHER, MAILS IT OUT, AND THEN COLLECTION HAPPENS THE WAY IT'S ALWAYS HAS THE FIRST INSTALLMENT OR THE FULL PAYMENT HAPPENS AT THE MUNICIPALITY LEVEL. 
          AND THEN SECOND INSTALLMENT HAPPENS IN MY OFFICE AND DELINQUENT CHA UM, BILLS HAPPEN IN MY OFFICE ALSO. 
          OKAY. 
          I JUST WANTED TO UNDERSTAND THAT. 
          YEAH. 
          A SHARED SERVICE, THIS IS PART OF THE SALES TAX INITIATIVE. 
          RIGHT. 
          AND THAT'S WHY BEFORE WE SPLIT ALL THOSE UP, WE MADE THE MUNICIPALITIES PAY FOR THEM, UM, TO THEIR EXTENT. 
          AND NOW WE BELIEVE THAT THAT'S A SHARED COST AND WE, WE PROVIDE THAT FOR THEM. 
          AND I, AND I THINK, AND I THANK YOU FOR THAT. 
          THAT'S, THAT'S A REALLY GOOD THING TO KNOW AND UNDERSTAND HOW THAT ACTUALLY WORKS. 
          YEAH. 
          BECAUSE PEOPLE DO INQUIRE ABOUT SHARED SERVICES AND WHAT DOES THE COUNTY DO FOR OUR LOCAL MUNICIPALITY? WELL, THIS IS ONE. 
          SO, AND SIX YEARS AGO, THE TREASURER'S OFFICE PRINTED EVERY TAX BILL IN HIS OFFICE OR HER OFFICE. 
          OH MY GOODNESS. 
          WE NO LONGER DO THAT. 
          SO WE HAD NINE, NINE DIFFERENT PRINTERS THAT WERE MAINTAINED AND IT'S A BIG COST. 
          YEAH, I IMAGINE. 
          THANK YOU. 
          YEP. 
          THANK YOU. 
          ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION ON THE TREASURER? NOT, WE'LL MOVE ON TO FINANCE. 
          ALRIGHT. 
          MOVING IN INTO THE FINANCE DEPARTMENT. 
          UM, THIS IS WHERE WE BUDGET FOR, UM, FINANCE AND PURCHASING. 
          UM, IT'S ALSO WHERE WE BUDGET FOR THE SERVICING OF THE, UH, REVOLVING LOAN FUND THAT THE EDWC MANAGES IT, BUT WHERE THE FISCAL, WE, WE SERVICE THAT IN THIS, UM, IN THIS BUDGET AREA. 
          UM, SO I DON'T, I WON'T SPEND A TON OF TIME ON THEIR RLF JUST BECAUSE THOSE NUMBERS ARE SORT OF PRESCRIBED. 
          UM, BUT IN TERMS OF FINANCE AND PURCHASING, THERE WEREN'T MANY SIGNIFICANT CHANGES IN HERE. 
          UM, THE PERSONNEL INCREASES ARE, ARE REPRESENTATIVE OF, OF COST TO CONTINUE. 
          UM, YOU KNOW, THERE WAS SOME COST SAVINGS ON THE PURCHASE SERVICES SIDE, UM, THAT IS REALLY, UH, LOWER, LOWER AUDIT AUDIT FEES, UM, IN PURCHASE SERVICES. 
          UM, SO, YOU KNOW, I APPRECIATE MARGIE. 
          MARGIE WAS HERE AND, UM, SHE, SHE CAME FOR THE, THE BUDGET PRESENTATION, BUT I DID 
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NOT HAVE A TON OF NOTES ON FINANCE JUST BECAUSE THERE AREN'T VERY MANY MOVING PARTS. 
          SO I'D BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS. 
          BUT, UM, THAT WAS THE EXTENT OF MY NOTES. 
          ANYONE TOO MANY MOVING PARTS. 
          , , GIS. 
          ALRIGHT. 
          UM, MOVING INTO GIS, UM, YOU KNOW, REALLY THE ONE BIG CHANGE IS THAT YOU'LL SEE, UM, A COST INCREASE FOR A GIS ANALYST. 
          UM, THAT POSITION YOU'LL RECALL WAS CREATED AND FUNDED IN IN 2025. 
          UH, WE RECEIVED A GRANT, UM, THAT GRANT FUNDING EXPIRES IN 2026. 
          UM, THIS BUDGET ONE-TIME FUNDS, UH, A-A-G-I-S ANALYST POSITION THROUGH THE BIENNIUM. 
          THE GOAL FOR THAT IS TO GIVE US TIME TO GAUGE HOW A WORKLOAD IS SHIFTING AROUND. 
          UM, THE POSITION WAS HIRED AND THE GRANT WAS FOR THE PURPOSE OF, UM, COMPLETING, UM, SOME WORK ASSOCIATED WITH CONVERTING OVER TO NEXT GEN 9 1 1. 
          AND, AND SO WE ARE, WE ARE WORKING THROUGH, UM, THE COMPLETION OF THOSE EFFORTS SIMULTANEOUSLY. 
          WE ARE TAKING ON SHARED GIS SERVICES AT THE SAME TIME. 
          SO AS WE WORK THROUGH THIS COMING BIENNIUM, WE'RE GONNA USE THAT TIME TO RIGHT SIZE AND SEE WHERE THE DUST SETTLES ON ALL OF THAT WORKLOAD. 
          UM, ALSO IN THE MIX IS, UM, ASSEMBLY BILL TWO 16. 
          WE TALK ABOUT THAT A LOT ON THE REGISTER OF DEED SIDE BECAUSE IT WOULD BRING A LOT OF ADDITIONAL REVENUE TO THE COUNTY THROUGH THE ROD. 
          BUT THAT BILL WOULD ALSO RESULT IN TWO, PROBABLY CLOSER TO $300,000 OF ADDITIONAL REVENUE INTO THE LAND INFORMATION PLAN. 
          THAT PLAN, WE, WE DON'T, WE DON'T SPEND THAT MONEY ON AN ONGOING BASIS. 
          RIGHT. 
          WE DON'T PUT PEOPLE IN THERE, UM, TYPICALLY, UM, BUT I, I SHARE THAT WITH YOU BECAUSE THAT IS A, IS A, SOMETHING THAT WE'RE MONITORING AND IT'S A SIGNIFICANT THING THAT'S OUT THERE. 
          UM, AND, AND IT'S POSSIBLE THAT THAT COULD HELP OFFSET, UM, SOME OF THE COSTS OR SOME OF THE INITIATIVES. 
          SO THE LAND, THE, THE GIS DEPARTMENT INTERPLAYS WITH THE LAND INFORMATION PLAN, UM, BASICALLY THE LAND INFORMATION PLAN FUNDS THE TRAINING IN THE GIS BUDGET. 
          SO, SO, UH, AND THE SOFTWARE AS WELL. 
          UM, SO A BOOST TO THE, TO THE REVENUE GIVES US ADDITIONAL OPTIONS FOR, UM, FOR FUNDING THINGS LIKE THIS POSITION IF WE CHOOSE TO DO THAT OR THINGS LIKE THE SOFTWARE OR, OR OTHER OPTIONS. 
          I GUESS MY POINT IS THAT WE HAVE MORE OPTIONS IF THIS BILL PASSES. 
          THERE ARE NO ASSUMPTIONS ABOUT THE PASSAGE OF THAT BILL IN THIS BUDGET. 
          THERE ARE ON THE ROD SIDE, BUT THIS BUDGET DOES NOT MAKE THOSE SAME ASSUMPTIONS. 
          UM, THE, UM, THE LAST NOTE I HAD WAS JUST, UH, GIS HAS A FEE SCHEDULE. 
          WE'VE ATTACHED THAT FEE SCHEDULE, UM, WITH THE SWITCH OVER TO SHARED SERVICES, WE'VE STOPPED ESSENTIALLY CHARGING FOLKS, UM, FOR, FOR THINGS. 
          BUT THIS, THIS DOES ALLOW FOR CHARGING A FEE IN, IN THE EVENT THAT THERE'S A SORT OF A NON-STANDARD REQUEST FROM A, FROM A CLIENT, UH, FROM SOMEONE THAT'S NOT OUR CURRENT CUSTOMER. 
          UM, SO I'D BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS ON THE GIS BUDGET. 
          UM, BUT REALLY WANTED TO HIGHLIGHT THAT ONE MAJOR POINT SUPERVISOR. 
          KELLY. 
          THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN. 
          UH, THAT GIS POSITION THAT YOU SPOKE OF EARLIER THAT WAS FUNDED THROUGH GRANT, UM, AND I, AND I UNDERSTAND YOU'RE GOING TO BE, YOU KNOW, RE-REVIEWING AND KIND OF REALLOCATING WHERE THE WORK IS GOING AND ALL THE REST OF THAT MM-HMM . 
          UM, BUT THEN WOULDN'T THAT BE FUNDED THEN THROUGH THE SALES TAX AS PART OF THE SHARED REVENUE AND NOT, AND COME OUT OF THE LEVY AREA? UM, OR AM I GETTING MONEY? SO IT KIND OF IS, IT'S, IT'S HARD TO EXPLAIN BECAUSE WE'VE GOT TAX LEVY IN THIS BUDGET, RIGHT? BUT THEN WE'VE GOT SALES TAX IN ANOTHER BUDGET THAT OFFSETS THAT TAX LEVY ALTOGETHER. 
          RIGHT? SO IT'S, IT, IT'S, IT'S HARD TO EXPLAIN. 
          WE DON'T BUDGET THE SALES TAX IN EVERY SINGLE DEPARTMENT. 
          RIGHT. 
          UM, IT'S BUDGETED IN A, IN THE NON NON-DEPARTMENTAL AREA. 
          SO IN THE EVENT THAT WE DID CHOOSE TO CONTINUE FUNDING 
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THAT ON AN ONGOING BASIS, WE WOULD MAKE THAT LINKAGE. 
          YES. 
          UM, TODAY, SINCE WE'RE UNDECIDED ON ITS FUTURE, WE'RE FUNDING IT WITH ONE TIME DOLLARS INSTEAD. 
          OKAY. 
          UNDERSTOOD. 
          THANK YOU. 
          SURE. 
          ANYONE ELSE? I BELIEVE HUMAN RESOURCES IS NEXT. 
          ALRIGHT. 
          THANK YOU. 
          UM, HUMAN RESOURCES, UM, THEY'RE, UH, SO AGAIN ON THE PERSONNEL LINE, SIMILAR, SIMILAR THEME HERE. 
          UM, HEALTH INSURANCE CHANGES AND MARKET PAY ADJUSTMENTS, UM, ARE, ARE DRIVING THE INCREASE IN YEAR ONE, YEAR TWO LOOKS A LOT MORE LIKE COST TO CONTINUE. 
          UM, WHICH IS WHAT THAT IS. 
          PURCHASE SERVICES, UM, ARE BEING REDUCED IN THE HUMAN RESOURCES BUDGET. 
          UM, THAT'S MOSTLY IN RECOGNITION, UM, TO A, WE'VE GOT A LOWER NEED FOR OUTSIDE COUNSEL, UM, FOR THINGS LIKE LABOR ISSUES, UNION NEGOTIATIONS, THINGS LIKE THAT. 
          UM, WE'VE HAD LESS OF A RELIANCE ON OUTSIDE COUNSEL, UM, THAN, THAN WE HAD IN THE PAST. 
          SO THAT BUDGET IS REDUCING. 
          UM, THERE'S SOME ONE-TIME FUNDING AND A ONE-TIME EXPENDITURE, UH, IN HERE. 
          UM, BASICALLY IT GIVES THE TUITION REIMBURSEMENT PROGRAM A BOOST. 
          SO, UM, THE WAY WE FUND OUR TUITION REIMBURSEMENT PROGRAM IS WE'VE GOT A, A POOL OF DOLLARS IN THERE. 
          AND AS THOSE REQUESTS COME IN, THAT THAT DOLLAR AMOUNT GETS REDUCED, UM, WE USE 20 TO $30,000 OR SO A YEAR, SOMETIMES A LITTLE BIT HIGHER THAN THAT. 
          UM, AND SO WE ESTIMATE THAT HAVE, UM, A BALANCE OF ABOUT 58,000 AT THE END OF 2025. 
          UM, AND SO WE'RE GIVING THAT PROGRAM A $20,000 BOOST WITH ONE TIME FUNDING IN 2027, UM, BASICALLY JUST TO KEEP THE, KEEP THAT PROGRAM, UM, FLOAT. 
          SO AGAIN, THAT'S, THAT'S ONE TIME FUNDING $20,000 IN, IN, IN YEAR TWO OF THE BUDGET. 
          UM, WE'VE, WE'VE ALSO GOT A $20,000 INCREASE PLANNED FOR, UM, FOR SOME SOFTWARE. 
          UM, WE'VE GOT OUR, OUR TALENT MANAGEMENT SOFTWARE, WHICH IS WHAT WE USE FOR TRAINING AND, UM, PERFORMANCE APPRAISALS AND ALL, ALL OF THINGS LIKE THAT, UM, NEEDS TO BE RENEWED AND THE COSTS FOR THAT ARE INCREASING. 
          SO WE DO HAVE THAT BUDGETED IN HERE AS WELL. 
          UM, THAT WAS THE EXTENT OF MY NOTES ON HUMAN RESOURCES SUPERVISOR SCHULTE. 
          YES. 
          THANK YOU CHAIR. 
          UM, UNDER THE HIGHLIGHTS WHERE YOU'RE, UH, MENTIONING THE FOUR TIERS FOR COVERAGE FOR THE MODIFIED HEALTH PLAN, I THINK, UM, THE EXECUTIVE MENTIONED AT OUR LAST MEETING, THE PERCENTAGES, BUT I'VE FORGOTTEN THEM, IS LIKE 80 SOME PERCENT THAT WE FUND AND THEN, OH, WHAT ARE THOSE TIERS? UM, SO THE TIERS ARE REFERENCING A, A SINGLE, A SINGLE PLUS ONE. 
          AND IT'S LIKE, IT'S, IT'S EMPLOYEE, EMPLOYEE PLUS SPOUSE AND EMPLOYEE PLUS CHILDREN, AND AN OVERALL FAMILY PLAN. 
          THOSE ARE THE FOUR TIERS WE'RE TALKING ABOUT. 
          WHAT THE COUNTY EXECUTIVE WAS REFERENCING LAST, UH, LAST MONTH WAS THE COST SHARE, UH, THE PREMIUM COST SHARE. 
          OKAY. 
          SO, UM, THE EMPLOYEES PAY 12.5% OF THE PREMIUM AND THEN THE COUNTY PAYS THE REST. 
          THAT IS NOT SET TO CHANGE AT ALL IN THIS BUDGET. 
          AND THAT'S BEEN, THAT'S, THAT'S BEEN OUR APPROACH FOR GOSH, A LONG TIME. 
          A LONG TIME. 
          OKAY. 
          AND, AND HOW DOES THAT COMPARE TO OTHER COUNTIES AND, YOU KNOW, RETENTION IS EXTREMELY IMPORTANT AT, AT THE SAME TIME IN BUDGET TIGHT YEARS. 
          IT, IT'S TEMPTING TO LOOK AT THAT, SO MM-HMM . 
          YEAH, IT, IT, UM, IT DOES COMPARE SIMILARLY TO OTHER COUNTIES. 
          UM, WE KNOW THERE ARE MUNICIPALITIES WITHIN THIS COUNTY THAT, THAT PAY ALL OF THE PREMIUM, FOR EXAMPLE. 
          SO THAT CAN BE A LITTLE BIT DIFFICULT TO COMPETE WITH, BUT, UM, BUT 12 AND A HALF IS VERY, VERY, UH, COMPETITIVE WITHIN THE MARKET. 
          UM, SO SURE. 
          THANK YOU. 
          ANYONE ELSE? LIBRARY. 
          OKAY. 
          LIBRARY. 
          UM, SO THE LIBRARY BUDGET, UM, YOU KNOW, THE, AS YOU'RE PROBABLY AWARE, THE COUNTY LEVEES ATTACKS ON PROPERTIES IN 
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MUNICIPALITIES THAT DON'T HAVE AN ESTABLISHED LIBRARY. 
          UM, AND, AND SO YOU'LL REMEMBER IN, IN, IN 2025, BASICALLY THE UNDER, UNDER OUR CURRENT CONTRACT, THIS AMOUNT CHANGES EVERY YEAR IN 2025. 
          WE USED, RATHER THAN INCREASING THAT, THAT TAX LEVY, WE USED $33,000 OF STRATEGIC PRIORITIES TO AVOID RAISING THAT LEVY, RIGHT? SO WE ADDED REVENUE INSTEAD OF INCREASING THE LEVY TO, TO GET THAT REVENUE. 
          YOU KNOW, FOR 2026, WHAT THAT MEANS IS THE LEVY NEEDS TO INCREASE BY THAT 33,000 PLUS THE INCREASE FROM 25 TO 26. 
          SO THERE'S AN ADDITIONAL 140 OR SO THOUSAND DOLLARS IN HERE THAT REPRESENTS THE, THE INCREASE FROM 25 TO 26. 
          SO IN, IN TOTAL, YOU'RE SEEING $178,000 LEVY INCREASE FOR THE LIBRARIES. 
          UM, LIKE I MENTIONED, A LOT OF THIS IS DICTATED BY CONTRACT AND AND STATUTE, UM, BUT IT DOES CHANGE EVERY YEAR. 
          UM, YOU KNOW, I WANTED TO, TO MAKE SURE THAT I, THAT I MENTIONED, UM, YOU KNOW, SINCE WE DO BIENNIAL BUDGETING, THIS IS ONE AREA THAT, THAT WE NEED TO REVISIT EVERY YEAR. 
          UM, SO IT'S A LITTLE BIT CONTRADICTORY TO OUR BUDGET PROCESS. 
          UM, AND SO WE ARE, UM, WORKING THIS INTO OUR OVERALL JUST BUDGET MANAGEMENT PRACTICES TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE LOOKING AT THIS AT THIS TIME NEXT YEAR AND BRINGING IT FORWARD TO YOU FOR APPROVAL. 
          ANY QUESTIONS? ALL RIGHT. 
          UM, THE, THE NEXT SECTION OF BUDGETS IS WHAT WE CALL OTHER COUNTY-WIDE. 
          I THINK WE'LL PROBABLY MOVE THROUGH THESE PRETTY QUICKLY UNLESS YOU HAVE A LOT OF QUESTIONS, BUT THERE'S REALLY WHAT WE BUDGET FOR IN HERE ARE THINGS THAT YOU'VE EITHER APPROVED IN THE PAST AND NOW WE'RE JUST ADDING NUMBERS TO THAT. 
          UM, OR, UM, YOU KNOW, OR, OR LIKE, LIKE IN THE CASE OF INSURANCE, FOR EXAMPLE, THOSE, THOSE COSTS SHOW UP IN OTHER BUDGETS, AND THAT POLICY HAS BEEN, THAT POLICY'S BEEN DECIDED IN OTHER AREAS, BUT WE'RE JUST REPORTING THE COSTS TO YOU. 
          SO JUST TO START WITH, UM, AS AN EXAMPLE, THE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROGRAM, UH, BUDGET CENTER, YOU KNOW, THIS IS WHERE WE BUDGET FOR ALL OF THE ITEMS THAT WERE APPROVED IN, IN THE CIP THAT YOU, THAT YOU PASSED IN APRIL. 
          SO, UM, GIVEN THE NATURE OF A CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PLAN, YOU KNOW, THERE'S NOT A LOT OF CONSISTENCY IN, IN LIKE AN OPERATING BUDGET THAT HAPPENS YEAR AFTER YEAR IN A CIP IT'S KIND OF A, A HODGEPODGE, SO IT'S HARD TO FOLLOW, HARD TO TRACK A LOT OF THIS STUFF. 
          BUT REALLY, THIS, THIS JUST REPRESENTS THE ACTIVITY THAT WE APPROVED IN THE CIP. 
          THE ONE CHANGE FROM THE APPROVED CIP IN THIS BUDGET IS THAT IN 2026 AND 2027, THE PROJECTS THAT WERE SLATED TO HAPPEN AT THE U-W-M-W-C BUILDING, UM, THOSE HAVE BEEN REMOVED FROM THE CIP, AND THOSE SALES TAX DOLLARS ARE BEING ASSUMED TO BE REPURPOSED INTO THE OPERATING BUDGET. 
          SO THOSE PROJECTS, TO REFRESH YOUR MEMORY, UM, WERE $150,000 IN 2026 FOR A WINDOW REPLACEMENT PROJECT, AND THEN $225,000 IN 2027. 
          UM, THERE'S A PARKING LOT MAINTENANCE PROJECT THAT'S IN THERE, AND THE REPLACEMENT OF A, OF A BOILER, UM, WAS, WAS SCHEDULED FOR THAT. 
          SO THOSE ARE THE TWO CHANGES TO THE CIP THAT, THAT ARE BEING PROPOSED IN THIS BUDGET. 
          OTHERWISE, THE CIP UM, IS, IS NOT CHANGED, UM, FROM THE ORIGINAL THAT YOU PASSED IN IN APRIL. 
          UM, ANY QUESTIONS ON THE CIP? YEAH, A QUESTION ON THAT. 
          UH, SO WITH THE SALE OF THIS, AGAIN, THE U-W-M-W-C, THEY'RE GONNA, THE NEW OWNERS WILL TAKE ON THOSE PROJECTS THEN, BUT WE WOULD STILL DO THE ELECTRICAL THAT WE WERE TALKING ABOUT, RIGHT? THAT'S CORRECT, YEAH, THAT'S CORRECT. 
          AND THAT, THAT DOES NOT SHOW UP IN THIS BUDGET BECAUSE THAT WAS APPROVED A WHILE BACK. 
          IT'S WAY BACK. 
          YEP. 
          YEP. 
          OKAY. 
          UM, IF THERE ARE NO QUESTIONS, I WILL MOVE INTO DEBT SERVICE. 
          UM, SO IN THE DEBT SERVICE FUND, UM, REALLY THE BIG, THE BIG CHANGE YOU'LL, YOU'LL NOTICE HERE IS, UM, THE REALLY, THIS IS THE FIRST TIME WE'RE SHOWING THE PRINCIPAL AND INTEREST PAYMENTS FOR THE DEBT SERVICE ON THE NEW DEBT THAT WE INCURRED FOR THE RENOVATION PROJECT HERE. 
          UM, YOU'LL SEE THE, THE $1.24 MILLION SHOWING UP HERE FOR THE FIRST TIME. 
          UM, THIS IS ANOTHER OF THOSE AREAS LIKE I WAS TALKING ABOUT EARLIER. 
          IT, 
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IT SAYS TAX LEVY HERE. 
          WE'RE NOT DEBT LEVYING FOR IT. 
          WE'RE NOT DOING ANYTHING LIKE THAT. 
          IT SHOWS UP AS TAX LEVY HERE, BUT THAT'S BECAUSE THE SALES TAX FOR IT IS IN ANOTHER BUDGET CENTER. 
          UM, WE, WHEN SALES TAX COMES IN, THE FINANCE DEPARTMENT HAS TO DECIDE WHERE TO APPLY IT TO. 
          AND IF WE HAVE IT IN A THOUSAND SPOTS IN THE BUDGET, THEN WE NEED TO SAY, OKAY, THAT ONE FIRST AND THEN THIS ONE SECOND. 
          SO WE TRY TO LIMIT WHERE THAT IS. 
          AND SO I WANTED TO MAKE SURE I POINT THAT OUT HERE, UM, AS, AS SOMETHING THAT'S HAPPENING IN THE BUDGET. 
          SO THE, THE 1.24 IS NOT DEBT LEVY. 
          YOU, YOU COULD CHOOSE TO DEBT LEVY FORWARD IF YOU, IF YOU'D LIKE, BUT WE ARE NOT PROPOSING THAT IN THIS BUDGET. 
          SO, UM, OTHER THAN THAT, I DID NOT HAVE TOO MANY OTHER, UM, NOTES ON DEBT SERVICE. 
          OKAY. 
          QUESTIONS TO PROCEED. 
          OKAY. 
          UM, SELF-INSURANCE FUNDS, SO YOU'LL SEE HEALTH INSURANCE AND PROPERTY AND LIABILITY INSURANCE ARE IN HERE. 
          UM, AGAIN, THIS IS JUST TO BUDGET THE ACTIVITY, UM, FOR THE HEALTH AND, AND THE PROPERTY INSURANCE. 
          UM, THERE ARE REVENUES IN BEING SHOWN IN HERE. 
          UM, THOSE REVENUES ARE BASICALLY CHARGES TO DEPARTMENTS THAT COME BACK TO, TO THESE FUNDS, RIGHT? SO, SO PAY THE PREMIUM, YOU CHARGE THE DEPARTMENT AND YOU RECOUP THE REVENUE TO PAY THE PREMIUMS. UM, WE MENTIONED, YOU KNOW, THAT, THAT, UM, YOU, YOU HEARD FROM THE COUNTY EXECUTIVE LAST, UH, LAST WEEK THAT, UM, YOU KNOW, WE WERE PLANNING ON A, ON A 12% HEALTH INSURANCE COST INCREASE. 
          UM, SO THAT IS IN THIS BUDGET. 
          UM, I THINK INSTEAD OF, INSTEAD OF DOING A DEEP DIVE ON HEALTH INSURANCE AND THE HISTORY OF IT AND HOW IT'S PERFORMED OVER THE YEARS, INSTEAD OF DOING THAT TODAY, I THINK THAT'S PROBABLY A BEST, UH, TO, FOR IT TO BE DONE VIA A SEPARATE AGENDA ITEM. 
          SO WE CAN KIND OF TALK TO YOU ABOUT ALL OF, ALL OF THE HISTORY ON, ON EVERYTHING THAT WE'VE DONE. 
          BUT, UM, I, I THINK, YOU KNOW, IN, IN TERMS OF THIS, YOU KNOW, I, I, I, I JUST HEARD, UM, OUR HR DIRECTOR TALKING ABOUT THE FACT THAT, YOU KNOW, WE WENT, WE WENT A NUMBER OF YEARS AND ONLY INCREASED HEALTH INSURANCE 3% OVERALL ACROSS MULTIPLE YEARS. 
          UM, AND SO WE WERE, WE WERE PERFORMING VERY WELL AGAINST THE MARKET FOR A LONG TIME. 
          AND, UM, IT WAS ONLY A MATTER OF TIME BEFORE SOMETHING HAPPENED. 
          AND, AND THIS IS THE YEAR, SO WE'VE GOT 12% INCREASE BUDGETED, UM, IN, IN THIS YEAR, AND THEN ANOTHER 5% BUDGETED FOR 2027. 
          SO, UM, THOSE WERE THE, THE CHANGES I WANTED TO TOUCH ON, ON INSURANCE. 
          UM, AND THEN THERE'S ONE MORE BUDGET AREA, UM, TO, TO TOUCH ON, UH, WHICH IS WHAT WE CALL NON-DEPARTMENTAL. 
          UM, SO AS THE NAME KIND OF DESCRIBES, THAT'S, UH, THAT'S OUR, OUR PLACE TO, TO BUDGET THINGS THAT HAVE A COUNTYWIDE IMPACT THAT CAN'T BE ATTRIBUTED TO A SPECIFIC DEPARTMENT. 
          SO, UM, THIS IS WHERE WE BUDGET FOR THE, THE OPERATING SALES TAX, RIGHT? UM, THIS IS WHERE WE, SO WE, WE BUDGET, YOU'LL SEE, UM, IN, IN THE SALES AND OTHER TAXES LINE, RIGHT? THAT $10 MILLION OF, OF, OF SALES TAX THAT'S REDUCING THE OPERATING BUDGET, THE BOTTOM, ALL OF THOSE REVENUES TRANSLATE TO THAT BOTTOM LINE SHOWING A NEGATIVE LEVY AMOUNT, RIGHT? AND SO SIMILAR TO THE TREASURE AND THE ROD WHEN THEY'RE SHOWING NEGATIVE LEVY, THAT'S OFFSETTING THE LEVY NEED IN OTHER, IN OTHER AREAS. 
          SO WE, WE BUDGET, UM, A LOT OF THOSE REVENUES CENTRALLY HERE. 
          UM, THERE'S SOME INTEREST ON INVESTMENTS HERE AS WELL. 
          AGAIN, THIS IS, THIS IS MATCHING THE INCREASES THAT WE ALREADY APPROVED ABOUT A YEAR AGO. 
          SO WE'RE NOT, WE'RE NOT STRETCHING THAT ESTIMATE EVEN FURTHER. 
          UM, BUT IT, IT'S MATCHING THOSE, THOSE THAT WERE APPROVED, UM, ABOUT A YEAR AGO. 
          UM, THIS BUDGET ALSO IS WHERE WE, WHERE WE BUDGET FOR STRATEGIC PRIORITIES, RIGHT? SO THAT'S OUR, OUR CONTINGENCY FUND. 
          THE WAY WE BUDGET FOR STRATEGIC PRIORITIES IS WE, WE BUDGET, WE, WE BUDGET AND LEVY AN AMOUNT IN THE FIRST YEAR, AND THEN THAT AMOUNT GETS CARRIED OVER INTO SUBSEQUENT YEARS. 
          SO THERE ARE $311,000, UM, BUDGETED FOR STRATEGIC PRIORITIES. 
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WE KNOW WE TYPICALLY RUN 150 ISH THOUSAND PER YEAR, UH, THROUGH, THROUGH STRATEGIC PRIORITIES. 
          SO THAT, THAT SHOULD LAST US THE BIENNIUM. 
          UM, THERE, THERE'S LIKELY GOING TO BE SOME BALANCE IN STRATEGIC PRIORITIES AT THE END OF THIS YEAR THAT WE WOULD THEN LOOK TO ALSO CARRY IN AND, AND SUPPLEMENT THAT BALANCE. 
          UM, THE NON-DEPARTMENTAL BUDGET INCLUDES A HUNDRED THOUSAND OF ONE-TIME FUNDING IN 2026, UH, FOR THE PROMOTION OF WASHINGTON COUNTY. 
          SO THIS IS SIMILAR TO, TO, UM, SIMILAR TO THE EFFORTS THAT WE DID VIA ARPA A NUMBER OF YEARS AGO. 
          UM, SO THAT IS IN THERE AS, AS A BUDGET LINE. 
          UM, THE COSTS FOR THE NEWSLETTER ARE IN HERE AS WELL. 
          SO THERE ARE $90,000 ANNUALLY IN HERE FOR THE NEWSLETTER. 
          UM, AND THEN FINALLY IN THIS BUDGET AREA, WE BUDGET, UM, WE TYPICALLY BUDGET IN YEAR TWO, SO 2027, UH, THE USE OF THE PROPERTY TAX RELIEF FUND. 
          SO WE ASSUME THAT, THAT WE'RE SPENDING DOWN THAT FUND, UH, TO THE TUNE OF $500,000 THAT IS CONSISTENT WITH, WITH WHAT IS IN THE BUDGET FOR 2025. 
          AND SO FOR 2027, WE WOULD LOOK TO, UH, USE THAT SAME NUMBER ON AN ACTUAL BASIS, GO JUDGING, YOU KNOW, BASED ON A, HOW WE PERFORMED IN 2023. 
          YOU KNOW, YOU MIGHT USE THAT, YOU MIGHT NOT, RIGHT? IF, IF YOU'VE GOT, IF YOU, IF YOU'RE ABLE TO ACHIEVE SURPLUSES ELSEWHERE, UM, THEN YOU DON'T NEED TO EVEN USE THAT, THAT PROPERTY TAX RELIEF FUND. 
          AND SO, UM, YOU, YOU GOT THE REPORT, UM, YOU KNOW, THE OTHER DAY THE COUNTY EXECUTIVE MENTIONED THE PROPERTY TAX RELIEF FUND SITS AT ABOUT, UH, JUST OVER 2 MILLION, UH, 2.2 I THINK WAS THE LAST REPORT THAT WE GOT. 
          AND SO, UM, YOU KNOW, THIS, THIS 500,000 REPRESENTS SORT OF A CONTINUATION OF OUR, OF THE PRACTICE THAT WE'VE BEEN USING FOR A NUMBER OF BUDGETS NOW. 
          UM, AND REALLY THE REST OF THAT ACTIVITY IN HERE, THERE'S A LOT OF OTHER MOVING PARTS. 
          UM, THERE'S A LOT OF, YOU KNOW, SINCE IT'S NON-DEPARTMENTAL, WE, WE BUDGET TRANSFERS IN AND TRANSFERS OUT AND THINGS LIKE THAT IN HERE. 
          AND SO THERE'S A LOT OF MOVING PARTS WITH THE OTHER FINANCING SOURCES AND USES AND THINGS LIKE THAT. 
          BUT, UM, A LOT OF THAT IS JUST TRANSFERS AND, AND THINGS. 
          SO MR. DOLL PERSONNEL IN 2025, THE ORIGINAL BUDGET SHOWS 420,000. 
          YEAH. 
          WHAT IS THAT AND WHERE DID IT GO? YEAH, SO THAT, THAT IS, UH, EARLIER I REFERENCED, OR A COUPLE OF TIMES NOW, I REFERENCED MARKET PAY ADJUSTMENTS. 
          SO AS WE WERE DEVELOPING THAT 24, 25 BUDGET, WE WERE ALSO STILL COLLECTING DATA FROM THE, THE COMPENSATION MARKET. 
          AND SO WE, WE DIDN'T NECESSARILY KNOW WHICH DEPARTMENTS WOULD BE IMPACTED AND IN WHICH WAY, UM, FROM THAT MARKET STUDY, BUT WE KNEW THAT WE NEEDED ABOUT $420,000 TO MAKE IT HAPPEN. 
          SO YOU PARKED IT THERE. 
          SO THAT'S OVERALL RAISES FOR THE WHOLE COUNTY. 
          CORRECT. 
          SO WE PARKED IT THERE, DEPLOYED IT OUT, AND THAT'S WHY BUDGET TO BUDGET IMPACT, SOME OF THOSE DEPARTMENTS ARE SHOWING A LITTLE BIT HIGHER THAN MAYBE A NORMAL COST TO CONTINUE WOULD LOOK LIKE. 
          THAT'S BECAUSE SOME OF THAT FOUR 20 GOT SPREAD INTO THOSE BUDGETS. 
          THANK YOU. 
          QUESTIONS WE'RE BURNED OUT ON NUMBERS, I THINK. 
          YEAH. 
          SUPERVISOR SCHWAB, I'M SHOCKED AT HOW MUCH I'M GETTING. 
          UH, THANK YOU FOR ALL YOUR WORD. 
          YEAH. 
          AND, AND JUST AN OVERALL COMMENT ON THE BUDGET AS, AS WE CONSIDER, UM, THE COUNTY EXECUTIVE'S GOALS, I REALLY APPLAUD KEEPING THE FLAT LEVY, AND YET IN SOME WAYS I'M TORN. 
          OVER THE YEARS, WE'VE MADE SOME REALLY GOOD CUTS AND, AND SOME FAT HAS REALLY BEEN TRIMMED AND, AND TO HELP GOVERNMENT OPERATE VERY EFFICIENTLY. 
          AND THAT'S A GOOD THING. 
          I'M CONCERNED THAT WE'RE APPROACHING THE POINT OF CUTTING BEYOND FAT AND REALLY GETTING INTO MEAT AND SINEW AND CRITICAL THAT, THAT WE REALLY NEED NOT CUT. 
          AND AS AN EXAMPLE, I WOULD STATE THAT IN 1994, I MADE A CAREER CHANGE AND I WAS MAKING $6 AN HOUR, RIGHT? AND MY FAMILY BUDGET FOR A FAMILY OF FOUR FOR FOOD AT THAT TIME WAS $35 A WEEK. 
          ALONG THE LINE, I'VE EARNED SOME PAY RAISES, YOU KNOW, UM, JUST LIKE THE COUNTY HAS INCREASED THE, UM, NET VALUE, RIGHT? WE'VE GAINED SOME ASSETS AND AS I WENT ALONG, YOU KNOW, WE WEAR BETTER CLOTHES NOW AND WE EAT BETTER NOW, AND WE DRIVE BETTER CARS NOW. 
          AND WE'VE GOTTEN USED TO THAT. 
          AND I WOULDN'T WANT TO GO BACK AND I WOULD NOT WANT TO SEE THE COUNTY GO BACK EITHER. 
          [01:20:02]
WE NEED TO WEIGH CAREFULLY, UM, BETWEEN WHETHER THE CUTS THAT ARE BEING PROPOSED ARE AS IMPORTANT AS PROVIDING THE SERVICES THAT OUR CONSTITUENTS HAVE GOTTEN ACCUSTOMED TO. 
          AND I'D USE AN EXAMPLE AS WELL OF, UH, AIR CONDITIONING. 
          HOW MANY OF YOU GREW UP IN HOUSES WITH AIR CONDITIONING? I DIDN'T, BUT I'M, I WON'T GO BACK TO LIVING IN A HOUSE THAT DOESN'T HAVE AIR CONDITIONING. 
          RIGHT? AMEN, BROTHER. 
          AND AS WE LOOK AT SOME OF THE COSTS, UM, AND I'M THINKING OF THE SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT, SO I'M A LITTLE BIT OFF TOPIC, SORRY, BRAD. 
          UM, STILL WITH REGARD TO THE BUDGET, WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE COST OF TASERS, WE'VE GOTTEN USED TO THOSE THINGS. 
          WE RELY ON THOSE THINGS. 
          WE'VE GOTTEN USED TO HAVING A HIGH LEVEL OF LAW ENFORCEMENT QUALITY IN WASHINGTON COUNTY. 
          IT'S IMPORTANT THAT WE MAINTAIN THAT WHEN WE LOOK AT BODY CAMERAS FOR OUR LAW ENFORCEMENT OFFICERS, THOSE ARE CRITICAL, UM, ESPECIALLY IN A LITIGIOUS SOCIETY THAT, THAT WANTS TO ATTACK OUR LAW ENFORCEMENT OFFICERS AT EVERY OPPORTUNITY. 
          AND, AND SO I REALLY APPRECIATE THE COUNTY EXECUTIVE'S CONCERN FOR OUR CONSTITUENTS, ESPECIALLY WITH REGARD TO THOSE AREAS THAT HAVE INCREASED TAXES IN, IN MANY WAYS. 
          BUT BY THE SAME TOKEN, WE NEED TO BE CONCERNED ABOUT THE COUNTY. 
          WE HAVE TO BE CONCERNED ABOUT OUR SPHERE OF INFLUENCE. 
          I I CAN'T DO ANYTHING ABOUT RICHFIELD OR GERMANTOWN OR, UM, YOU KNOW, WHAT OTHER, WHATEVER OTHER AREAS HAVE INCREASED THEIR TAXES. 
          BUT I DO NEED TO BE CONCERNED ABOUT WASHINGTON. 
          CONEY OVERALL, YOU KNOW, AS I, I DON'T, I DON'T LIKE PROLATE SPENDING. 
          I, YOU KNOW, AND WE'VE, WE'VE HAD YEARS WHERE WE'VE HAD WILD INFLATION, RIGHT? DUE TO OUR, OUR FORMER PRESIDENT, IN MY OPINION. 
          AND, AND WE WE'RE LIVING WITH THAT, RIGHT? COSTS HAVE INCREASED, LEGITIMATE COSTS HAVE INCREASED. 
          I ADMIRE THE GOAL OF MAINTAINING THE LEVY, RIGHT? BUT AS WE LOOK AT HOW LEGITIMATE COSTS HAVE INCREASED, I'M NOT SURE I'M WILLING TO SACRIFICE LEGITIMATE SERVICES TO OUR CONSTITUENTS FOR THE GOAL OF MAINTAINING THE LEVY AT ITS CURRENT, AT ITS CURRENT RATE. 
          YOU KNOW, AND I, I LOOK AT, UH, FAMILIES AROUND ME AND SOME OF 'EM ARE JUST PROFLIGATE THEIR SPENDING. 
          SOME OF 'EM ARE WASTEFUL, RIGHT? BUT JUST BECAUSE MY NEIGHBORS MIGHT SPEND A BUNCH OF EXTRA MONEY ON STUPID THINGS DOESN'T MEAN I'M GOING TO SKIMP ON MY FAMILY'S NECESSITIES. 
          AND THAT'S WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT. 
          MM-HMM . 
          WHAT ARE THE NECESSITIES FOR THE CONSTITUENTS OF WASHINGTON COUNTY? SO I'M TORN, UM, AS WE, I'M REALLY LOOKING FORWARD TO GETTING ALL THE DETAILS, 'CAUSE I'M ALL ABOUT THE DETAILS, UM, TO SEE WHERE THOSE THINGS ARE. 
          BUT THAT'S SOMETHING I'M, I'M WILLING TO CONSIDER IS, UH, DO WE HOLD THE LEVY OR, OR ARE THERE SOME THINGS THAT MAY BE MORE IMPORTANT? AND AS WE GO FORWARD, I'M GONNA TALK ABOUT ANOTHER TOPIC, UM, WITH REGARD TO LEAD LATERALS. 
          AND I'M NOT SURE WHAT WE'RE ALL SPENDING ON, ON SALES, WHAT SALES TAX, SHARED REVENUE ON THESE DAYS, BUT I'M REMINDED THAT WHEN PEOPLE RECEIVE CREDITS ON THEIR, THEIR CREDIT CARD BILLS, YOU KNOW, WHEN A CREDIT CARD COMPANY KNOCKS HALF OF IT OFF OR WHATEVER, THEY RECEIVE A 10 99 BECAUSE THEY RECEIVED LEGITIMATE BENEFIT FOR THAT. 
          AND WE'VE PROVIDED BENEFIT TO MANY HOMES, TO MANY PROPERTY OWNERS IN WASHINGTON COUNTY IN THE VIA, YOU KNOW, THE LEAD LATERAL REPLACEMENT PROGRAM, RIGHT? YEP. 
          AND I WOULD, I'M CURIOUS, DID WE ISSUE 10 90 NINES BECAUSE THAT INVESTMENT THAT WE MADE ACCRUED DIRECTLY TO THOSE PROPERTY OWNERS? AND IF WE DIDN'T DO THAT, DID WE AT LEAST SEE TO IT THAT THE PROPERTY ASSESSMENT WENT UP BECAUSE THE PROPERTY VALUE HAD TO HAVE GONE UP? AND ARE WE GETTING A RETURN ON THAT INVESTMENT VIA THE PROPERTY TAXES? THESE ARE THINGS I THINK ABOUT, I KNOW I'M ODD, BUT, BUT AS WE, AS WE CONSIDER IT, UM, WE DO HAVE TO MAKE SURE THAT, THAT WE TAKE CARE OF THE CONSTITUENTS AND, AND COVER THE IMPORTANT THINGS. 
          UM, IF WE CAN MAKE CUTS WITHOUT CUTS IN COST, WITHOUT MAKING SEVERE CUTS IN SERVICE, I THINK THAT'S GOOD. 
          BUT I'M CONCERNED THAT WE MAY HAVE REACHED THE LIMIT OF WHERE WE CAN DO THAT. 
          [01:25:01]
THANK YOU. 
          I SHARE YOUR CONCERN. 
          UM, OUR COUNTY EXECUTIVE LIKES TO REMARK BACK TO THE TIMES WHEN PEOPLE WERE COUNTING PAPERCLIPS, WHICH IS A, AN INTERESTING ANOMALY, BUT I AGREE THAT YOU CAN ONLY CUT SO FAR. 
          SO, UM, WE HAVE HEAVY DECISIONS AHEAD OF US. 
          SUPERVISOR CHADRON. 
          THANK YOU, CHAIRMAN. 
          I WISH I COULD ARTICULATE HALF AS GOOD AS SUPERVISOR SCHWAB THERE, BUT I HAVE THE SAME CONCERNS IN, UH, DEPARTMENT OF PUBLIC WORKS TOO THAT WE WILL BE DISCUSSING TOMORROW. 
          UM, AND, BUT YOU KNOW, I, I SHARE THOSE SAME SENTIMENTS. 
          I'M, I'M GLAD WE'RE CUTTING, I'M GLAD WE'RE ALWAYS A HAWK AND LOOKING OVER THE, THE TAXES. 
          BUT WE'RE GONNA GET TO A POINT WHERE WE'RE GONNA HIT ROCK BOTTOM, WHERE WE'RE GONNA BE, UH, WHAT WE CALL IT IN THE DEPARTMENT OF PUBLIC WORKS, WE CALL LEVEL OF SERVICE, RIGHT? MM-HMM . 
          WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO START CUTTING LEVEL OF SERVICE. 
          AND THAT DOES START GETTING CONCERNING, ESPECIALLY WHEN YOU TALK, SAY ROADS, RIGHT? IT'S AN IMPORTANT FOR OUR INFRASTRUCTURE FOR GETTING AROUND. 
          SO MM-HMM . 
          UM, I'M GLAD WE'RE, WE'RE LOOKING AT THIS AND TAKING THIS APPROACH, BUT, UM, IN THE FUTURE, WE REALLY GOTTA KEEP  EYE ON HOW FAR WE GO. 
          SURE. 
          THANK YOU SUPERVISOR KEL. 
          THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN. 
          UH, I LIKE WHAT YOU HAD TO SAY, MR. SCHWAB, SUPERVISOR SCHWAB, I, I THINK YOU'RE TOTALLY RIGHT ON POINT. 
          UM, I'M NOT SURE IF CPAC AND, YOU KNOW, SPEAKING OF THAT INDIVIDUALLY, UH, IS NOT BONE OR MUSCLE, YOU KNOW, A LOT OF OUR MUNICIPALITIES USE IT AND, UH, IT'S, IT'S, YOU KNOW, EVEN WE USE IT A LOT. 
          I'M NOT CONVINCED, UH, THAT IT'S SOMETHING WE CAN NECESSARILY GET RID OF. 
          NOW, I'M NOT SAYING WE'RE GONNA NECESSARILY KEEP IT, I'M, TO BE HONEST, VERY MUCH ON THE FENCE. 
          BUT I PUT THAT OUT THERE TO THE CHAIRMAN, UM, AND, AND, AND, AND I WANNA PUT THIS OUT THERE IN THE, IN THE OPEN FORUM THAT, UM, I'M NOT COMFORTABLE WITH IT. 
          NOT AT ALL. 
          AND, UH, THAT'S SOMETHING THAT HAS TO BE WEIGHED HEAVILY, UH, BECAUSE I THINK THIS IS, IS A, A PRETTY BIG ISSUE. 
          AND, AND IT'S ALSO KIND OF PUTTING US OUT THERE IN A WAY THAT WE MAKE THIS CUT. 
          UH, THIS WILL DEFINITELY SEND SOME RIPPLES THROUGH SOUTHEASTERN WISCONSIN AS WELL AS POSSIBLY ALL OF WISCONSIN. 
          UM, AND I'M NOT SURE THAT THAT'S NECESSARILY THE MESSAGE THAT WE WANT TO PUT OUT THERE. 
          UM, I'M NOT IN AGREEMENT, LET'S JUST SAY, AND I'M NOT IN DISAGREEMENT NECESSARILY, BUT I MEAN, THIS IS OBVIOUSLY A, A VERY LARGE ISSUE THAT I'M KIND OF LIKE, WOW, THIS IS, IS GONNA TAKE TIME TO SWALLOW THIS ONE. 
          SO, UM, I JUST WANT TO PUT THAT OUT THERE THAT MR. SCHWAB, I, I DO AGREE WITH YOU ON THIS. 
          UM, AND, AND I WILL LOOK FORWARD TO WORKING WITH THE BUDGET DEPARTMENT AND, AND TRY TO HASH THESE THINGS OUT. 
          UM, AND I UNDERSTAND THAT, YOU KNOW, IT COULD END UP A VETO IF I WERE TO GO FOR IT. 
          AND, UM, AND IF I WERE TO GO FOR IT, I WOULD FIGHT THAT VETO. 
          UH, YOU KNOW, I WANT, I WANT TO EXPRESS THAT. 
          UH, I'M THE CFO, YOU ARE THE CFO. 
          YEAH. 
          THERE'S, THERE'S THINGS THAT SOMETIMES WE NEED AND, UH, I'M NOT LOOKING FOR A FIGHT. 
          ABSOLUTELY NOT , YOU KNOW, BUT, BUT I HAVE SOME VERY, VERY LARGE MISGIVINGS ABOUT THIS. 
          SO JUST WANNA MAKE THAT CLEAR. 
          AND AGAIN, NOT DECIDED EITHER WAY. 
          I CAN BE CONVINCED, BUT I CERTAINLY NEED A WHOLE LOT MORE INFORMATION THAN WHAT I CURRENTLY HAVE. 
          SO THANK YOU. 
          AND I'LL, I'LL BUILD ON THAT SUPERVISOR. 
          KEL, YOU RECALL IN OUR TIME ON THE BOARD, WE USED TO SEE SOAK COME AND PRESENT TO THE FULL BOARD EVERY YEAR, USUALLY IN JUNE, AND THAT'S GONE AWAY RECENTLY. 
          SO IT'S SAD TO SAY IF THEY DON'T COME AND SELL THEMSELVES, WE DON'T SEE VALUE, BUT THEY HAVEN'T PROVEN THAT VALUE RECENTLY, SO. 
          AGREED. 
          LIKE YOU, I'M ON THE FENCE. 
          SO AGREE. 
          I AND I, YEAH, I DON'T WANT IT TO SEEM LIKE I, I'M AWARE OF THAT AS WELL. 
          YOU'RE A HUNDRED PERCENT CORRECT AND I, WHICH CAUSES ME TO WANT TO GO, YOU KNOW WHAT? YOU'RE RIGHT, LET'S TAKE A SHOT, YOU KNOW, 'CAUSE WHAT ARE WE REALLY GETTING? BUT I ALSO HEAR FROM PEOPLE WHAT WE DO USE THAT. 
          SO IT'S ONE OF THOSE THINGS THAT I'M JUST LIKE, YOU KNOW, 
          [01:30:01]
WE'RE KIND OF GETTING OFF DIRECT AGENDA, BUT GO ON. 
          YEAH. 
          WELL THAT KIND OF, MAYBE I'M GOING TOO FAR OFF ON THAT. 
          I HATE TO EXTEND THE MEETING LONGER THAN IT HAS TO, BUT WITH THE SEWER PACK, WHO BENEFITS THE MOST FROM IT? LAND USE AND PLANNING DOES A LOT, AS YOU KNOW, WITH, DOES DEPARTMENT OF PUBLIC WORKS WITH TRANSPORTATION. 
          I THOUGHT WE DID SOME STUFF WITH THEM AS WELL, YOU GUYS. 
          SO GUYS STUFF. 
          THEY DO TRAFFIC STUDIES, THINGS LIKE THAT. 
          OKAY. 
          WE DO. 
          ATTORNEY STERN IS, WANTS US TO STOP IT. 
          . 
          OKAY. 
          RED FLAG. 
          ALL RIGHT. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THAT'S ALL I WANTED TO KNOW IS WHO BENEFITS FROM IT. 
          SO THANK YOU . 
          UM, ANYTHING ELSE? GREAT, MR. DOLL. 
          10 YARDS. 
          . 
          NO, NO, THAT WAS IT. 
          THANK YOU VERY MUCH. 
          OKAY. 
          UM, WE HAD A PLACEHOLDER HERE FOR DISCUSSION, AN UPDATE ON U-W-M-W-C CAMPUS. 
          I UNDERSTAND THERE'S NO DEVELOPMENT. 
          NO, I, I CAN SHARE WITH THE, UH, WITH THE COMMITTEE THAT, UH, THE COUNTY EXECUTIVE'S 
          [f. Update: UWM-WC Campus ]
OFFICE HAS BEEN IN CONTACT WITH THE MAYOR'S OFFICE. 
          UH, WE HAVE BEEN ADVISED TO PROCEED WITH, UM, WITH NEGOTIATIONS TO GET THE SALE ACCOMPLISHED. 
          THE CITY IS, FROM WHAT I UNDERSTAND, ENDORSED THAT AS WELL. 
          AND WE HAVE ENGAGED COUNSEL AT THIS POINT IN TIME TO BEGIN, UH, ASSISTING US IN PUTTING DOCUMENTS TOGETHER. 
          WE'VE RETAINED THE SERVICES OF KRAMER MALOFF, A FIRM THAT SPECIALIZES IN REAL ESTATE TRANSACTIONS OF THIS NATURE. 
          AND WE FEEL, GIVEN THE SIZE AND SCOPE OF THIS PARTICULAR DEAL, WE, WE, WE NEED THOSE EXPERTS IN OUR CORNER. 
          AND, UH, WE HAVE SOME MEETINGS, UH, UH, SCHEDULED AND, UH, SHOULD HOPEFULLY START GETTING THE DOCUMENTS PUT TOGETHER. 
          UH, AND WE ARE ALSO IN THE PROCESS OF ALSO PUTTING TOGETHER THE APPLICATION FOR THE GRANT DOLLARS, UH, THAT SHOULD BE COMING TO WASHINGTON COUNTY AS A RESULT OF THE ELECTRICAL REPAIRS THAT WE'RE GONNA BE DOING OUT THERE. 
          SO IT'S A LITTLE SLOW TO GET THINGS ROLLING, BUT WE HAVE THE, THE PARTIES ENGAGED, RETAINED, AND WE'RE MOVING FORWARD. 
          AND THAT WILL INCLUDE OUR COST FOR SALES AS WELL AS, UH, UH, LAWYER FEES AND ALL THE REST OF THAT AS WELL IN THOSE GRANT GRANT DOLLARS. 
          NO, I BELIEVE THE GRANT DOLLARS ARE STRICTLY FOR THE, UH, REPURPOSING AND THE REPAIRS AND SO FORTH OUT THERE, SO WE WON'T COVER ANY OF THE OTHER ASSOCIATED COSTS, RIGHT? AS FAR AS I KNOW, WE'LL COVER OUR COSTS FOR KEEPING HEAT AND WATER TO THE BUILDING MAINTENANCE THIS YEAR. 
          WELL, I CAN'T SPEAK TO THE, WHAT THE GRANT WILL WE'LL DO IN THAT REGARD. 
          MY UNDERSTANDING IS WE'RE UP TO, IT'S UP TO ABOUT $2 MILLION AND IT'S TO COVER OUR EXPENSES OUT THERE, WHICH WE BELIEVE, AND I THINK THE COUNTY EXECUTIVE MADE VERY CLEAR WILL BE TO REIMBURSE THE COUNTY FOR THE ELECTRICAL REPAIRS. 
          AND THAT'S IT. 
          OKAY. 
          SO THE NEXT ITEM ABOUT CLOSED SESSION IS UNNECESSARY AT THIS TIME? NOT, YEAH, NOT TODAY. 
          NOT TODAY. 
          OKAY. 
          OUR NEXT MEETING WILL BE OCTOBER 15TH, 2025. 
          THIS MEETING'S ADJOURNED, WHAT, SIX O'CLOCK? YES. 
          [a. October 15, 2025]
JOHN, CAN YOU HAND ME YOUR, OH, YEAH. 
          THANKS, MIKE. 
          THANK YOU. 
          OH, WE MANAGED.
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