Sep 18, 2025 Land Use and Planning Committee Meeting

ZONING DISTRICT LOCATION, UH, SEG MEADOW GROUP, LLC, TOWN OF AARON, SECTION 31, TAX PARCEL ID T 3 0 6 3 6.

UH, FIRST ITEM, UH, AUGUST MINUTES.

ARE THERE ANY, UH, UPDATES OR ANYTHING FOR THE MINUTES? ANY PROBLEMS? SEEING NONE, WE'LL CONSIDER THOSE PASSED.

UH, ALSO IN THE CONSENT AGENDA, WE HAVE TWO PASS THROUGH ITEMS. THESE ARE NORMAL ITEMS. ANY QUESTIONS ON THESE? NO QUESTIONS.

I'LL CONSIDER THOSE AS PASSED THROUGH.

I'LL NOW ASK THE CLERK TO READ THE NOTICE OF PUBLIC HEARING.

NOTICE IS HEREBY GIVEN THAT A PUBLIC HEARING WILL BE HELD AT A MEETING OF THE WASHINGTON COUNTY LAND USE AND PLANNING COMMITTEE IN ROOM 10 19 OF THE WASHINGTON COUNTY GOVERNMENT CENTER.

4 3 2 EAST WASHINGTON STREET, WEST BEND, WISCONSIN.

ON THURSDAY, SEPTEMBER 18TH, 2025 AT 4:30 PM THERE WILL BE HEARD AND CONSIDERED THE PETITION OF SGE MEADOW GROUP, LLC CARE OF BEN HAS.

SORRY ABOUT THAT.

UM, FOR A CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT FOR ASSOCIATED FILLING, GRADING AND EXCAVATING OF GREATER THAN ONE ACRE, AND WITHIN 300 FEET OF THE ORDINARY HIGH WATERMARK STREAM RESTORATION AND WETLAND ENHANCEMENT IN THE SHORELAND WETLAND FLOODPLAIN

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UH, TOWN OF ERRAND 0 6 3 9.

TOWN OF ERRAND 0 6 4 0.

UH, ADDRESS 7 3 0 2 COUNTY LINE ROAD, HEARTLAND, WISCONSIN, 5 3 0 2 9.

DATED THE SECOND DAY OF SEPTEMBER, 2025.

THANK YOU CLERK RIKER.

I WILL NOW CALL THIS, UH, PUBLIC HEARING OPEN AND INVITE ANY GUESTS THAT WISH TO SPEAK TO PLEASE ATTEND THE PODIUM.

UH, MICHAEL'S WITH YOU.

YEAH, IT'S FOR PUBLIC 'CAUSE OUR STAFF.

SO WHAT'S THAT? YOU DON'T WANT STAFF REPORTING THAT, CORRECT? NO.

PUBLIC COMMENT, PUBLIC COMMENT.

WE'RE CALLING FOR PUBLIC PUBLIC COMMENT.

JUST WANT TO INTRODUCE MYSELF.

MY NAME IS TROY GILES.

I'M AN ATTORNEY

[Public Hearing - 4:30 pm]

WITH REINHARDT.

I'VE BEEN A PART OF THE SED MEADOW DEVELOPMENT, THIS PROPOSAL FROM THE VERY BEGINNING.

SO I AM HERE TO ADDRESS ANY QUESTIONS IF ANYBODY HAS THEM.

SO MORE THAN HAPPY TO SPEAK

[a. The petition of Sedge Meadow Group LLC c/o Ben Hostetler for a Conditional Use Permit for associated filling, grading and excavating of greater than one acre and within 300 ft. of the ordinary high water mark (OHWM) (stream restoration and wetland enhancement) in a Shoreland / Wetland / Floodplain Zoning District, location: The petition of: Sedge Meadow Group LLC c/o Ben Hostetler Town of Erin, Sec. 31 - Tax Parcels ID #T3_0636; T3_0639; T3_0640 Address: 7302 County Line Rd., Hartland, WI 53029]

A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE PROJECT AND JUST LET EVERYBODY KNOW WHAT IT'S ABOUT.

OTHERWISE, I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT MAY COME UP THIS EVENING, UM, AS WE DISCUSSED THIS.

THANK YOU, SIR.

IF THERE'S ANYBODY WHO WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK IN REGARDS TO THIS MATTER BEFORE THIS COMMITTEE AT THIS TIME, PLEASE STEP FORWARD TO THE PODIUM.

IF THERE IS ANYBODY WHO WISHES TO SPEAK, IF PLEASE STEP TO THE PODIUM AT THIS TIME.

SEEING NONE, I WILL CONSIDER, UH, THE MATTER AS, UH, FINISHED AND WILL CLOSE THIS PUBLIC HEARING.

MOVING ON, UH, FIRST ON THE I ON THE, UH, DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION, UH, CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT FOR SEDGWICK METAL METAL GROUP, LLC, TOWN OF AARON.

YOU GONNA HANDLE THIS? MS. LUDWIG? YES.

WE DO HAVE MICHAEL ZEWICKI HERE WITH OUR DEPARTMENT, OUR WATER HEALTH SPECIALIST, IF THERE ARE ANY QUESTIONS ON THIS, BUT THE DEPARTMENT IS RECOMMENDING APPROVAL.

UM, ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ON THIS PROJECT? YEP, I WOULD MAKE A MOTION.

ALL RIGHT.

UH, SO MOTION BY SUPERVISOR KREBS, SECONDED BY SUPERVISOR PRIDE MOORE.

ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE STAFF REGARDING THIS? JUST ONE.

WHAT IS, WHAT IS THE PURPOSE OF IT? I'VE LOOKED AT THE DOCUMENTS, I'VE SEEN WHAT THE ACTUAL WORK IS DOING, BUT WHAT IS, WHAT ARE THEY HOPING TO ESTABLISH WITH THIS? YEAH, THE MAIN PART WITH THIS, UH, PROJECT IS A FULL RESTORATION OF THE AREA.

SO, UH, CONNECTING FLOOD PLAIN, UH, NAVIGABILITY THROUGH THAT AREA.

UM, GETTING RID OF INVASIVE SPECIES AND OVERALL, UH, CREATING THE AREA, TURNING INTO THE NATURAL HABITAT.

UM, THERE'S BEEN CHANNELIZED FLOWS THROUGHOUT THERE, THROUGHOUT, UM, UH, DESTRUCTION AND THINGS LIKE THAT.

SO, UM, JUST IMPROVING THE STREAM FUNCTIONALITY IS THE MAIN PORTION OF THAT.

UM, AND HELPING OUT, UH, FURTHER DOWN THROUGH THE WATER STREAMS. OKAY.

DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING? NO, .

DIDN'T MEAN TO PUT YOU ON THE SPOT.

NO, JUST THAT I KNOW YOU WERE NO, THAT'S QUESTIONING ON, THAT'S WAS YELLING OUT THERE IS WHAT I WAS.

ALRIGHT.

UM, ANY MORE QUESTIONS, UH, IN REGARDS TO THIS PROJECT? SEEING NONE, I WILL ASK FOR.

OH, CAN I JUST ASK A QUICK QUESTION? UH, SIR, PUBLIC HEARING IS, IS NOW CLOSED.

UM, SO ANY, UH, I'M SORRY, I GOT OFF TRACK THERE.

UH, ALL IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.

AYE.

ANY OPPOSED? AND THE AYES HAVE IT.

INTRODUCTION OF UW EXTENSION ASSISTANT DEAN, JEREMY SOLAN.

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HELLO, EVERYONE.

UM, UH, SINCE I'M GONNA BE RETIRING IN DECEMBER, UH, WE THOUGHT IT WAS A GOOD IDEA TO BRING JEREMY IN.

JEREMY IS THE ASSISTANT DEAN, UH, AND HE'LL HELP WITH THE TRANSITION, SO I'LL LET HIM DO A LITTLE BIT MORE OF INTRODUCTION.

ALL

[a. Conditional Use Permit for Sedge Meadow Group LLC – Town of Erin, Washington County]

RIGHT.

[b. Introduction of UW-Extension Assistant Dean Jeremy Solin]

GOOD EVENING.

UH, THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO BE HERE.

AS WAS, UH, SHARED, MY NAME'S JEREMY.

SO I'M ASSISTANT DEAN FOR, UH, SOUTHERN WISCONSIN.

SO I COVER, UH, SOUTHERN HALF OF THE STATE.

MY ROLE IS PRIMARILY TO SUPPORT THE, UH, EDUCATORS AND THE AIR AREA EXTENSION DIRECTORS, UH, IN, IN THE COUNTIES IN THAT AREA, INCLUDING HERE IN WASHINGTON COUNTY.

SO, UH, JUST WANTED TO, UH, TAKE THE OPPORTUNITY TO CONNECT WITH YOU ALL.

UH, RECOGNIZE THEN THE PARTNERSHIP THAT WE HAVE, AND APPRECIATE THE PARTNERSHIP THAT WE HAVE IN WASHINGTON COUNTY.

UH, WE HAVE A, A VERY STRONG TEAM OF EDUCATORS, UH, DOING GREAT PROGRAMMING IN THE COUNTY.

UH, WE GOT TO MEET EARLIER WITH JAMIE TO, UH, TALK THROUGH SOME THINGS, WHICH W WAS, WHICH, UH, WAS GOOD AND HELPFUL FOR ME TO HEAR, UM, KIND OF THINK HOW THINGS ARE GOING.

UH, AND THEN I JUST ALSO WANNA RECOGNIZE CINDY, SINCE, UH, THIS WILL PROBABLY BE HER LAST COMMITTEE MEETING.

UM, CINDY'S PROVIDED GREAT LEADERSHIP, UH, FOR THE PROGRAM.

SHE'S HIGHLY VALUED WITH AN EXTENSION, AND I KNOW LOCALLY AS WELL.

SO WE APPRECIATE ALL THE WORK THAT'S, UH, SHE'S DONE.

SO THANK YOU TO CINDY.

UH, BUT AT THIS POINT, I'M HAPPY TO TAKE ANY QUESTIONS.

IF THERE'S ANYTHING YOU'RE WONDERING ABOUT, UH, EXTENSION AS A WHOLE OR, OR LOCALLY, I'M HAPPY TO TAKE THOSE QUESTIONS.

ANY QUESTIONS? UH, UM, I'D LIKE ON BEHALF OF THE COUNTY TO THANK CINDY FOR, FOR SERVICE.

UH, SHE'S BEEN A JOY TO WORK WITH THESE YEARS AND ALWAYS WILLING TO PITCH IN AND BE A TEAM MEMBER.

SO THANK YOU.

THANK YOU GUYS.

UH, AND I TOO WOULD LIKE TO, UH, ECHO THOSE SENTIMENTS.

CINDY, THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR ALL YOUR HARD WORK, YOUR YEARS OF DEDICATION TO THE UW EXTENSION.

UH, YOU ARE APPRECIATED.

SO, UM, THEN WE GO TO THE EXTENSION UPDATES.

JUST A COUPLE OF THINGS THAT I'M WORKING ON HERE IN WASHINGTON COUNTY.

GOOD EVENING EVERYBODY.

LIZ GARTMAN.

I'M THE REGIONAL CROPS EDUCATOR WITH UW EXTENSION, AND

[c. UW Extension updates ]

UH, WE'RE ON OUR SECOND YEAR OF OUR CORN SILAGE NITROGEN OPTIMIZATION PILOT, UH, PROJECT AT KNOCKER PRAIRIE ACRES.

UH, WE ACTUALLY TOOK OUR SILAGE SAMPLES ON MONDAY, AND WE'LL BE CHOPPING THE PLOT TOMORROW TO GET THE YIELD DATA FOR THAT.

SO, UH, GREAT TO HAVE SOME LOCAL NITROGEN DATA GOING BACK TO THE UW.

UM, SO AFTER WE GET DONE GETTING ALL THAT DATA PULLED TOGETHER, THAT INFORMATION WILL GO TO THE SOIL SCIENCE DEPARTMENT AT UW MADISON WHERE IT WILL BE ANALYZED.

AND THIS IS THE SECOND YEAR OF THIS PROGRAM.

SO IT'S REALLY COOL THAT WE'LL SEE TWO COMPARATIVE YEARS LAST YEAR.

UM, ANECDOTALLY YOU COULD SEE A LOT OF DIFFERENCES BETWEEN THE NITROGEN RATES IN THE FIELD THIS YEAR, NOT SO MUCH.

SO IT'LL BE REALLY INTERESTING TO GET THE DATA FROM THE, THE SILAGE SAMPLES AND THE YIELD TO SEE WHAT REALLY WENT ON IN THAT FIELD.

UM, AND THEN WE ACTUALLY JUST STARTED A SECOND NOPP PROJECT AT, UH, RAMON'S HICKORY, UH, LAWN FARM.

AND WE PLANTED THE COVER CROP THERE.

AND THAT IS A PROJECT WHERE WE'RE LOOKING AT COVER CROPS VERSUS NO COVER CROPS AHEAD OF A CORN CROP.

SO WE TOOK OFF THE WHEAT, THE COVER CROP WAS PLANTED.

WE TOOK SOME INITIAL SOIL SAMPLES.

UM, WE'LL PULL SOME BIOMASS SAMPLES ON THE COVER CROP TO SEE HOW MUCH NITROGEN, UH, WAS TAKEN UP BY THAT COVER CROP.

UM, AND THEN WE'LL DO THAT AGAIN IN THE SPRING WITH SOIL SAMPLES AND THEN PLANT THE CORN CROPS.

SO REALLY GREAT WORK DONE BY THE FARMERS IN THIS AREA.

AND THE NOPP PROJECT IS DRIVEN BY FARMER QUESTIONS, SO THAT'S WHY IT'S FUN TO WORK WITH THEM AND SEE WHAT THEY HAVE GOING ON AND WHAT IDEAS THEY HAVE.

UM, WE DID SHARE, UH, THE INITIAL DATA FROM LAST YEAR AT THE OZAKI COUNTY CLEAN FARM FAMILIES POKER RUN AS WELL.

SO THAT WAS AN OPPORTUNITY FOR OTHER GROWERS TO, TO LEARN MORE ABOUT THAT PROJECT.

AND THEN, UH, SOME OTHER THINGS KEEPING ME BUSY.

IT'S CORN SILAGE SEASON, AND, AND I'VE GOT A FORAGE SPECIALTY.

SO I'VE BEEN WORKING WITH GROWERS ACROSS MY REGION, WHICH IS FOUR COUNTIES, UH, TO LOOK AT WHOLE PLANT MOISTURE FOR CORN SILAGE, AND TRY TO IDENTIFY WHEN THE OPTIMUM TIME FOR HARVEST IS.

AND AS, UM, AS IS NORMAL, IT'S COMPLETELY DIFFERENT THAN THE LAST TWO YEARS THAT I'VE BEEN ENGAGED IN THIS PROJECT.

WE HAVE CORN SILAGE THAT'S NOT DRYING DOWN AS QUICKLY AS WE HAD ANTICIPATED.

WE DON'T EXACTLY KNOW WHY.

WE'VE GOT SOME THEORIES, BUT IT'LL BE INTERESTING TO SEE HOW THE REST OF THE SEASON PLAYS OUT.

SO STAY TUNED.

UM, AND THEN FINALLY, I HAVE BEEN MEETING WITH THE CEDAR CREEK FARMERS, UH, PRODUCER LED GROUP TO PROVIDE ANY GUIDANCE OR, OR GET ANY FEEDBACK FROM THEM AS TO WAYS THAT, UM, EXTENSION CAN SUPPORT THE WORK THAT THEY ARE DOING IN WASHINGTON COUNTY.

SO WE'LL CONTINUE TO DO SO AS I CAN.

SO IF ANYBODY HAS ANY QUESTIONS, I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER THEM.

ANY QUESTIONS FROM THE COMMITTEE?

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I JUST HAPPEN TO NOTICE THAT I DRIVE TRUCK AND I'M OUT IN THE COUNTRY MM-HMM .

SO I, I SEE A LOT OF EVERYTHING, AND I KIND OF, THE YEAR IS ALWAYS DECIDED BY HOW, UH, HOW I WATCH THE CROPS IN THE FIELDS AND WHAT THEY'RE DOING.

AND I NOTICED THAT THEY ARE STARTING TO SILAGE RIGHT NOW MM-HMM .

BUT I THINK IT'S AT THE VERY, VERY BEGINNING END.

UM, SO IT, IT'S, UM, I WOULDN'T GUESS THAT IT'S MORE THAN 1% OR 2% AT THE MOST, AND I DON'T EVEN THINK IT'S THAT MUCH, BUT NO.

AND MOST GROWERS THINK THEY SHOULD BE DONE ALREADY.

SO THAT'S, I THINK, WHAT'S GETTING EVERYBODY A LITTLE BIT EASIER.

THAT'S WHAT I WAS ABOUT TO SAY.

IT SEEMED A LITTLE LATER THAN NORMAL THIS YEAR.

RIGHT? YEP.

SO CAN YOU EXPLAIN WHAT DRY DOWN IS? SO WHAT WE DO IS WE ACTUALLY HAVE PRODUCERS BRING IN FOUR TO FIVE CORN STALKS INTO A LOCATION, AND WE CHOP IT DOWN WITH LIKE A WOOD CHIPPER.

AND THEN WE RUN IT THROUGH A COUPLE OF DIFFERENT METHODS.

WE CAN EITHER USE WHAT'S CALLED A PORTABLE NIR MACHINE, WHICH JUST USES LIGHT TO GIVE US SOME PREDICTIONS AS TO WHAT THE DRY MATTER OR THE WHOLE PLANT MOISTURE HAPPENS TO BE.

SOMETIMES WE RUN 'EM UP TO A LAB, A CERTIFIED LAB, AND HAVE IT RUN THROUGH THAT WAY.

AND THEN WE HAVE KIND OF AN ARCHAIC LIKE COOKER METHOD THAT WE CAN USE AS WELL.

AND WE'VE GOT LIKE CALIBRATIONS FOR ALL THREE OF THOSE.

SO, UM, WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT IS WHOLE PLANT MOISTURE.

AND WHEN WE HAVE THE WHOLE PLANT MOISTURE THAT'S OPTIMUM, WHICH IS SOMEWHERE AROUND, UH, 65 TO 68% MOISTURE, WE GET A GOOD FERMENTATION.

IF IT'S TOO DRY, WE GET AN INCOMPLETE FERMENTATION.

IT BURNS A LITTLE BIT AND IT GETS VERY INDIGESTIBLE TO COWS.

IF IT'S TOO WET, EVERYBODY GETS PRETTY UPSET BECAUSE WE LEACH NUTRIENTS AWAY, BECAUSE YOU'LL PROBABLY NOTICE THOSE PILES ARE, ARE YOU, YOU GET LIQUID THAT RUNS AWAY FROM THE PILES, AND THAT'S A LOT OF IMPORTANT NUTRIENTS, NOT ONLY FOR THE COWS, BUT THEN YOU THINK ABOUT WHAT THAT DOES FOR LIKE WATER QUALITY AND RUNOFF ISSUES.

SO, SO IT'S SO LOOKING FOR THE SWEET SPOT WE'RE, I WAS JUST GONNA SAY.

YEP.

WE'RE A HUNDRED PERCENT LOOKING FOR THAT SWEET SPOT.

AND THIS YEAR IT'S BEEN A REAL CHALLENGE, BUT IT'S PART OF THE FUN, RIGHT? YEAH.

AND THIS YEAR, I MEAN, IT REALLY CHANGED A LOT BECAUSE WE HAD THE WARM WEATHER, WE HAD, UH, TIMELY RAINS MM-HMM .

AND, UH, THIS, THE CROP STAYED GREEN AND EVERYTHING, BUT, UH, I KNOW WE DID IT THE LAST TWO DAYS WE WERE CHOPPING AND IT, I MEAN, THERE WAS NO JUICE OR NOTHING, YOU KNOW.

GOOD, GOOD.

THAT'S WHAT WE LIKE TO HEAR.

PRIORITY PROJECT I HAVE IS AFTER SCHOOL STEM PROGRAMMING IN WASHINGTON COUNTY.

YEP.

EXACTLY.

AND THANK YOU FOR COMING AND DOING THE TEST OUT THERE.

IT'S FUN.

IT'S ALWAYS FUN TO WORK WITH FARMERS AND SEE WHAT THEY'RE, WHAT THEY'RE DOING.

UM, I'M THE FOUR H COUNTY EDUCATOR, KELLY JOHN, UH, TO GIVE MY KIND OF OVERVIEW OF MY WORK PLAN FOR THE YEAR, UM, I WON'T GO OVER EVERYTHING IN DETAIL, BUT AT LEAST THE THINGS THAT I'VE BEEN WORKING ON OR I'VE BEEN DOING.

UM, SO I STARTED OFF IN THE SUMMER DOING SUMMER STEM CAMPS.

UH, SO WE DID TWO, THREE DAY CAMPS, UM, FOCUSED ON DIFFERENT CAREERS IN STEM.

UH, WE HAD ABOUT 25 YOUTH.

UH, EIGHT OF THOSE WERE NON FOUR H MEMBERS AND WERE INTRODUCED TO THE WONDERFUL WORLD OF FOUR H.

UM, THINGS INCLUDED WERE WORKING THROUGH ACTIVITIES IN ROBOTICS, ENGINEERING, ELECTRICITY, UM, WE DID SOME ROCKETRY AND BRIDGE BUILDING.

UM, AND THEN WE ALSO HAD, UH, SCOTT SCHMITT, WHO WAS THE CIVIL ENGINEER HERE, COME AND DO ROCKET BUILDING WITH THE YOUTH, AND ALSO TALK ABOUT, UH, WHAT HE DOES IN HIS JOB.

AND THE PATHWAY THAT, UM, BROUGHT HIM INTO CIVIL ENGINEERING.

UM, FIRE HIGH SCHOOL STUDENTS HELPED OUT WITH THE STEM PROGRAMS AND LED SOME OF THE ACTIVITIES.

UH, THE YOUTH, UM, A HUNDRED PERCENT SAID THAT THEY, UH, LEARNED SOMETHING NEW AND WOULD RECOMMEND THE CAMP TO A FRIEND.

UM, SO WE ARE, UM, EXCITED TO BRING THIS BACK.

THE ONLY YOU KNOW, HARD PART WAS THE 90 DEGREE WEATHER THAT WE HAD DURING THE CAMPS AND ALL OF THE, YOU KNOW, THE TOUGH, THE TOUGH PROBLEM SOLVING, CRITICAL THINKING WHILE BEING, UH, IN THE, THE JURASSIC HEAT.

SO, YOU KNOW, AND OUR, AS OUR MOVE TO MAR IN MARINE PARK, I THINK IT'LL BE A LITTLE BIT EASIER IN AIR CONDITIONING.

UM, SO THEN THE NEXT THING THAT I'M WORKING ON, UM, IS THE TRI-COUNTY STEM FIELD TRIP TO UW MADISON SCIENCE LABS.

IT IS SCHEDULED FOR NOVEMBER 5TH.

UM, SO THIS IS OFFERED TO FOUR H STUDENTS IN GRADES SIX THROUGH 12, UH, IN WASHINGTON, OZAKI AND FOND DULAC COUNTIES.

UM, SO IN THE SUMMER WE SURVEYED FOUR H STUDENTS TO IDENTIFY THEIR CAREER INTERESTS, AND WE PUT TOGETHER AN ITINERARY, UH, TO VISIT THE DIFFERENT SCIENCE LABS WHERE THE YOUTH WILL ENGAGE DIRECTLY WITH SCIENTISTS EXPLORING COLLEGE LIFE AND FUTURE STEM CAREERS.

SO THAT WILL HAPPEN.

UM, AGAIN, LIKE I SAID, NOVEMBER 5TH.

UM, THE NEXT, UH,

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UM, SO AGAIN, I'VE BEEN TALKING WITH, UM, SOME OF THE SCHOOL DISTRICTS, UM, SINCE THE BEGINNING OF THE YEAR TO LEARN DIFFERENT GAPS, UM, THAT THE SCHOOLS SEE IN PROGRAMMING.

UM, AND A THEME I KEPT HEARING WAS THAT WE SHOULD BEGIN STEM PROGRAMMING EARLY SO STUDENTS BECOME AWARE OF ALL THE OPPORTUNITIES THAT THEY'LL HAVE IN HIGH SCHOOL.

UM, SO I'VE BEEN WORKING LONG AND HARD WITH THE WEST BEND SCHOOL DISTRICT, UM, WITH THEIR COMMUNITY OUTREACH DIRECTOR TO BUILD A PARTNERSHIP, UM, WHICH ENTAILS, UM, FORMAL AGREEMENTS WITH THE SCHOOLS, UM, AND THEN DEVELOPING CURRICULUM ALIGNED WITH THE HIGH DEMAND STEM CAREERS AND WORKFORCE READY SKILLS.

UM, AND THEN OF COURSE, PURCHASING MATERIALS AND TRAINING VOLUNTEERS.

THE FORMAL AGREEMENT WITH THE WEST BEND DISTRICT BEGAN, OR IT'S, IT'S PROCESSED THIS SUMMER, AND WE FINALLY GOT A GREEN LIGHT FROM THEIR SUPERINTENDENT THIS PAST FRIDAY.

SO, UM, WE HOPE TO STILL PROGRAM THIS FALL, UM, OR WE WILL, WE WILL PROGRAM THIS FALL.

UM, I'M READY.

THEY'RE READY.

UM, AND SO THE GOAL AGAIN IS THEN TO EXPAND.

SO WE WILL HAVE A, AN AMERICORPS PERSON THAT WILL BE COMING IN JANUARY AND WORK, UM, TO EXPAND OUR, OUR AFTER SCHOOL OPPORTUNITIES WITH OTHER DISTRICTS.

UM, AND THEN LAST, UM, THING THAT I'M WORKING ON IS THE CAREER CONNECTIONS, UM, EVENT, WHICH, UM, IS SOMETHING THAT MARIN PARK DOES IN FOND DU LAC COUNTY.

UM, AND IT HAS BEEN AN INTEREST FOR THEM TO BRING IT TO THE WEST BEND DISTRICT OR WEST BEND CAMPUS MARINE PARK.

UM, AND SO I MET WITH SOMEBODY FROM FOND DULAC CAMPUS, AS WELL AS THEIR COORDINATOR OF THE EVENT TO TALK ABOUT, UM, WHAT THE EVENT ENTAILS.

AND, UM, SHE KINDA GAVE ME HER OUTLINE OF HOW SHE DOES THE PROGRAMMING.

IT'S BEEN GOING ON FOR 10 YEARS IN FOND LAC.

UM, AND SO I'M GOING TO GO IN OCTOBER AND SEE IT RUN, AND THEN HOPEFULLY BRING IT BACK HERE, UM, THIS SPRING, UM, IF NOT, UM, MAYBE IN THE FALL NEXT YEAR.

UM, SO WORKING WITH PETE RETTLER AND, UM, COMMUNITY AND FORMING A CO COMMUNITY, UM, LIKE COMMITTEE TO, TO PLAN THE EVENT.

SO, UM, THAT'S ABOUT IT FOR WHAT I'M WORKING ON THIS FALL .

SUPER.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

YOU'RE WELCOME.

GOOD AFTERNOON EVERYONE.

RON JACOB BISON, FOUR H EDUCATOR.

UM, MY MAIN ROLE IS MANAGING VOLUNTEERS WITH WASHINGTON COUNTY FOUR H AS WELL AS FOCUSING ON YOUTH DEVELOPMENT OR YOUTH, UH, LEADERSHIP ENGAGEMENT AND PROGRAMS. SO LAST TIME I SAW YOU, UH, WAS IN SPRING AND WE WERE GETTING READY FOR SUMMER CAMP, AND WE DID HAVE A GREAT SUMMER CAMP, 93 YOUTH, 14 ADULTS.

AND, UH, I WON'T GO INTO LARGE DETAIL ABOUT IT, BUT, UH, ONE THING THAT WE DO, UM, RIGHT HERE IN AUGUST IS WE DO A DEBRIEFING MEETING WITH THOSE 21 HIGH SCHOOLERS, UH, WHO ARE FACILITATORS.

AND WE REFLECT ON WHAT THEY LEARNED AS FACILITATORS, AS CAMP STAFF, UH, AND WE SET GOALS FOR NEXT YEAR.

UM, SUMMER CAMP DOES TAKE UP A LOT OF TIME.

UH, WE WILL, OUR, OUR TRAINING WILL START IN JANUARY, FEBRUARY, APRIL AS WELL AS MARCH TO GIVE THOSE YOUNG TEEN LEADERS THE SKILLS TO, UH, IMPLEMENT CAMP WHERE WE AS ADULTS ARE, UH, OVERSEEING AND HELPING AS WELL.

UM, OUR OPEN HOUSE WAS JUST LAST THURSDAY.

WE HAD THAT PLAN FOR MANY, MANY, MANY MONTHS, AND, UH, WAS TOLD THAT IT WAS ON THE SAME NIGHT AS A PACKERS GAME, UM, WHICH WE NOTICED IN THE FIRST HOUR, EVERYONE WAS GAR WEARING GREEN.

AND THEN, UM, YOU KNOW, IT ALL CHILLED OUT.

BUT THAT'S AN ANNUAL EVENT TO BRING, UH, FOUR H UH, TO THE PUBLIC.

UM, IT WAS ADVERTISED AT ALL THE CHAMBERS, AS WELL AS NUMEROUS SCHOOL DISTRICTS THAT HAVE DIGITAL BULLETIN BOARDS.

SO, UH, PARENTS AND KIDS CAN SEE, UH, WHAT'S OFFERED, UM, AS FAR AS CLUBS AND PROJECTS.

UM, WE ALSO DID, UH, I DID AN ADULT, ADULT VOLUNTEER TRAINING IN AUGUST WITH OUR PAST YEARS CLUB LEADERS AND PROJECT LEADERS, AND GOT FEEDBACK ON WHAT, UH, WHAT TO LOOK FOR IN THE UPCOMING YEAR AS FAR AS TRAINING NEEDS.

UM, ONE THING THAT'S AWESOME IS THAT, UM, THE UW EXTENSION SYSTEM, FOUR H HAS, UH, BEEN ABLE TO STREAMLINE VOLUNTEER TRAINING TO 1 45 MINUTE TRAINING, WHICH COVERS THE LEGAL, UH, UH, REQUIREMENTS FOR, UH, VOLUNTEERS WHO ARE WORKING WITH YOUTH AND CUSTODIAL CARE.

AND WHAT WILL HAPPEN IS THE EDUCATOR MYSELF WILL IDENTIFY, UH, WHAT NEEDS THAT LOCAL ED, UH, VOLUNTEERS NEED TO DO THEIR VOLUNTEERS AND BETTER.

SO SOME OF THOSE THINGS THAT WE HAVE IDENTIFIED ARE CONFLICT, UH, RESOLUTION OR CONFLICT MANAGEMENT, RIGHT? LEADERS WANT TO KNOW HOW TO HELP KIDS MANAGE CONFLICTS.

AND SOMETIMES WE HAVE TO HELP ADULT VOLUNTEERS MANAGE CONFLICT WITH OTHER

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ADULT VOLUNTEERS.

UM, UH, ALSO, UM, THEY WANTED TO KNOW ABOUT LESSON PLANNING, RIGHT? SO WE WANNA HELP 'EM DO THAT SO THEIR, UH, ENERGY AND ENTHUSIASM IS MATCHED BY THEIR SKILLS.

AND, UM, LEMME SEE, WHAT ELSE ARE WE TALKING ABOUT? AND, UM, YEAH, SO THAT'S THAT.

AND THEN, UM, WE'RE STARTING TEEN CONNECT, WHICH I IDENTIFIED THREE, FOUR MONTHS AGO.

THAT'S FOR HIGH SCHOOL AGE VOL, UH, YOUTH MEMBERS.

AND WE KNOW THAT HIGH SCHOOL AGE YOUTH MEMBERS, UH, NOT ONLY IN WASHINGTON COUNTY, BUT THROUGHOUT FOUR H IN THE NATION, TEND TO, UH, SHOW UP LESS AND LESS BECAUSE THERE'S AGE APPROPRIATE ACTIVITIES THEY'RE INVOLVED WITH, RIGHT? PART-TIME JOB, THEY HAVE A DRIVER'S LICENSE, THEY'RE STARTING TO DRIVE FURTHER AND DO OTHER THINGS.

SO THIS MONTHLY EVENT, THE FIRST ONE IS SATURDAY NIGHT, IT'S AT 6:00 PM YOU'RE ALL WELCOME TO SHOW UP.

AND YOU CAN ALSO BE A, UM, JUST A, YOU KNOW, WE'LL, WE'LL SORT OF LIKE LET YOU BECOME A TEEN AND, UH, BUT IT'S A GREAT OPPORTUNITY FOR SOCIAL ACTIVITIES, AND WE'RE ALSO ENGAGING THEM IN HOW THEY CAN PLAN THE NEXT ONE.

SO THIS IS A MONTHLY EVENT, AND THEY WILL ALSO DO SOME EVENTS FOR, UH, TWEENS, THE AGE GROUP OF, UH, FIFTH THROUGH SEVENTH GRADE.

SO WE'RE GONNA MAKE THEM LEADERS OF SOME EVENTS AS WELL.

AND LASTLY, UM, VISITING START AND CLUB VISITS, UH, GOING AROUND AND SEE ALL THE DIFFERENT CLUBS, SEE HOW THEIR MEETINGS RUN, UM, OFFER THEM MINI PRESENTATIONS ON LEADERSHIP AT THEIR CLUB MEETINGS, AND ALSO PROMOTING THE ANNOUNCEMENTS THAT ARE COMING UP THROUGHOUT THE YEAR.

AND THAT IS IT, IF ANYBODY HAS ANY QUESTIONS.

SUPER.

ANY QUESTIONS FROM THE COMMITTEE? PERFECT.

THANK YOU MUCH.

UH, WAIT A MINUTE.

, I'M NOT DONE WITH YOU.

I, I LIKE TO LET THE COMMITTEE HAVE THEIR SAY FIRST, BUT THEN I GET MINE.

UM, NO, ACTUALLY, WHAT I WANTED TO DO WAS ASK YOU IF YOU HAVE ONE OF THESE GET TOGETHER EVENTS, I'D LIKE TO BE CLUED IN ON IT, UM, BECAUSE I WOULD BE INTERESTED IN, UH, JUST SHOWING UP AND SURE.

AND ATTENDING AND SEEING WHAT IT'S ALL ABOUT.

WELL, THIS SATURDAY IT'S 6:00 PM UH, SATURDAY NIGHT OVER AT THE PAC, AND IT'S A RETRO VIDEO GAME NIGHT.

SO PAC MANN, AND, UH, A COUPLE OTHER, UH, GAMES.

AND THEN, UH, OCTOBER 18TH, BUT I CAN GET YOU THE LIST OF ALL THOSE THROUGHOUT THE YEAR BECAUSE THEY ARE SCHEDULED.

SO DO THAT.

'CAUSE I'M NOT SURE IF I COULD MAKE IT SATURDAY, BUT YES, I WOULD LIKE THE LIST NO PROBLEM, BECAUSE I WOULD LIKE TO NO PROBLEM SELL PIZZA IS SERVED TOO, SO THAT MIGHT HELP YOU, YOU KNOW, SHOW UP ON SATURDAY.

THAT WOULD BE AWESOME.

THIS IS SUPERVISOR CONRAD , SUPERVISOR CONRAD.

YEAH, THANK YOU.

SORRY.

UM, A ACTUALLY, I HAD A QUESTION FOR, FOR THE FIRST PRESENTER FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO ASK, AND, AND IT WASN'T, UM, PROVIDED.

SURE.

THAT'S LIZ OPPORTUNITY NOW.

UM, I WAS JUST CURIOUS, YOU SPOKE OF HOW YOU'RE STARTING WITH, UH, WEST BEND SCHOOL DISTRICT FOR THE, THE STEM PROGRAM AND JUST HAVE THAT SOLIDIFIED, OOPS, SORRY.

THERE WE GO.

I, I CAN'T SEE FACES ON MY END , BUT, UM, AND THEN YOU PLAN TO EXPAND BEYOND THAT.

IS THAT EXPANSION ACTUALLY A STRATEGIC PLAN THAT YOU ALREADY HAVE A MAPPED OUT, OR IS IT MORE VISIONARY? UM, I WOULD SAY IT'S, UM, I HAVE A FEW DISTRICTS INTERESTED ALREADY.

THE, THE BIGGEST BARRIER I WOULD SAY WAS, UM, GETTING THE MEMORANDUM OF UNDERSTANDING DONE SO THAT I CAN THEN EASILY ENGAGE WITH OTHER DISTRICTS.

AND IT'S ALREADY LIKE A, A NICE STREAMLINED , UM, YOU KNOW, PARTNERSHIP THAT, UM, SO, BUT KIOSKI WAS ONE THAT I'VE BEEN WORKING ON IN THE SUMMER AS WELL.

UM, AND SO YEAH, IT, I WOULD SAY THERE IS A PLAN TOO.

UM, BUT I ALSO KNOW THAT WE'RE MOVING AND SO I DIDN'T WANT TO, UM, PUT ON TOO MUCH THIS FALL, BUT HAVING AN AMERICORPS PERSONNEL BE ABLE TO EXPAND, YEAH, I APPRECIATE THAT TOO, USING AMERICORPS, THAT'S A, A, A UNIQUE, UM, TYPE OF INTERVENTION TO SUPPLY THAT RESOURCE, BUT, ALRIGHT.

UM, ARE TAKEN CARE OF ON UW MADISON SIDE AND AS WELL AS THE DISTRICT.

I I WAS JUST CURIOUS IF IT, UM, AND THEN ACTUALLY TOO, ARE, DO YOU HAVE, IT SOUNDS LIKE YOU MIGHT HAVE SOME BARRIERS.

IS THERE ANYTHING THAT, THAT THE COUNTY CAN BE OF ASSISTANCE WITH OR, UM, NO, I, I THINK WE'RE, IT'S, IT'S ESSENTIALLY JUST, UM, YOU KNOW, THE, THE AGREEMENT THAT BOTH PARTIES NEED TO AGREE ON OF LIKE WHO'S IN CUSTODY OF CARE AND THINGS LIKE THAT.

AND THEN MAKING SURE THAT ALL LIABILITIES,

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SO IT JUST TAKES TIME.

GREAT.

YEP.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR EFFORTS TOO.

YOU'RE WELCOME.

ALL RIGHT.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS ABOUT THE COMMITTEE? YES.

UH, CAROL, MARY HERE.

HEY, CAROL .

YEAH, RON, UH, WHEN IS THE ANNUAL LEADERS MEETING? THE ANNUAL LEADERS MEETING? SO, UH, WHAT CAROL'S REFERRING TO IS, UM, ON, UH, NOVEMBER 8TH, THE ACHIEVEMENT COMMITTEE HAS AN AWARDS NIGHT.

AND AS PART OF THAT, TRADITIONALLY, I THINK OVER THE YEARS, THEY, UH, INCLUDED AN ANNUAL MEETING OF THE LEADERS WHO VOTED, UM, NEW BOARD MEMBERS IN.

AND SO, UH, TRY AND KEEP IT SHORT, BUT IN THE PAST YEAR, YEAR AND A HALF, UM, THE LEADERS BOARD HAS SWITCHED OVER TO A REPRESENTATIVE TYPE OF A BOARD.

SO EACH CLUB HAS ONE ADULT AND ONE YOUTH THAT GO TO THE BOARD MEETING.

UM, AND SO THOSE, UH, ELECTIONS ARE HELD, UH, NEXT MONTH.

SO I DO IN AUGUST, HAD A ALL LEADERS MEETING.

UH, AND THE RECOMMENDATION IS THAT WE HAVE THOSE TWICE A YEAR.

SO THE WORD ANNUAL, UH, LEADERS MEETING, UH, I'M GONNA GO BACK AND SAY I, IT WAS CONNECTED PRIOR TO YEARS AGO TO THE ACHIEVEMENT NIGHT AND DOING ELECTIONS.

UH, WITH THAT BEING SAID, WE'RE DOING, UH, AUGUST, AND THEN WE'LL DO ONE IN THE SPRING SEMESTER, EARLY IN JANUARY, WE'LL DO A, ANOTHER LEADERS MEETING.

SO TWICE A YEAR WE'LL DO LEADERS.

DOES THAT ANSWER YOUR QUESTION, CAROL? NO, I, I WAS LOOKING FOR THE AWARDS NIGHT BECAUSE TRADITIONALLY OH, THE AWARDS NIGHT.

VERY GOOD.

MRS. MARY AND I HAVE BEEN PROVIDING DILLY BARS FOR EVERYONE.

DIDN'T KNOW I SHOULD PLAN FOR THAT AGAIN THIS YEAR.

NOVEMBER 8TH IS, UH, SATURDAY NIGHT IS THE, UH, SCHEDULED DATE, UH, LOCATION TO BE DETERMINED.

PREVIOUSLY IT WAS OUT AT THE FAIRGROUNDS, UH, DUE TO THEIR, UH, RECONSTRUCTION AND REDESIGNING OF ALL THEIR STUFF.

WE DO NOT YET HAVE A, UH, LOCATION.

THERE IS THE ACHIEVEMENT COMMITTEE, UH, THAT, UH, OF VOLUNTEERS WHO IS LOOKING OR WHO ARE LOOKING INTO A VENUE TO HAVE THAT EVENT, BUT IT WILL NOT BE AT THE FAIRGROUNDS TO, TO ALL THE, UH, CONSTRUCTION AND RECONSTRUCTION AND REDESIGN IT.

NO.

NOVEMBER 8TH, I HAVE A FEELING I'M GONNA BE OUT OF TOWN, BUT IF NOTHING ELSE, WE'LL MAKE ARRANGEMENTS TO GET TO DILLY BARS.

SIR, I'LL TAKE THOSE DILLY BAR COUPONS.

YEAH, .

UM, CHIEF OF ADMINISTRATION 20 26, 20 27.

YEAH, BUT YOU GOTTA GIVE 'EM TO EVERYBODY.

OH, I'LL TRY.

ANYTHING ELSE, CAROL? THANK YOU.

BUDGET SUMMARY IS IN THIS SAME PACKET, SO LET'S GO AHEAD AND REVIEW WHAT WE'RE DOING.

GREAT.

THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.

AND, UH, GOOD EVENING EVERYONE.

UM, I'D LIKE TO ASK IF WE COULD, IF WE COULD COVER THE UW EXTENSION BUDGET FIRST.

UM, IT IS THE VERY LAST PAGE OF THE PACKET, UM, ALL THE WAY BACK TO PAGE 78.

[f. 2026/2027 Budget Discussion Agriculture & Industrial Society Community Development County Parks Golf Land Information Land Resources Register of Deeds UW Extension]

UM, UH, IF YOU'RE FOLLOWING THE ELECTRONIC PACKET, ACTUALLY THEY HAVE IT ON HERE, UH, AS A SINGLE PAGE IN HERE.

OH, OKAY.

SO, WELL, I THINK WE'RE READY FOR IT.

IT'S IN BOTH LOCATIONS.

36.

THE, UM, AS YOU KNOW, LAST MONTH, THE COUNTY EXECUTIVE, UM, PRESENTED ON SORT OF THE OVERALL BUDGET IN THOSE CONCEPTS, UH, AT THE COUNTY BOARD MEETING, UM, LOOKING BACK TO AUGUST, UM, DEPARTMENTS PRESENTED THEIR BUDGET SUBMISSIONS TO THE COUNTY EXECUTIVE.

UM, SO I GUESS, YOU KNOW, USUALLY I JUST COVER A COUPLE HOUSEKEEPING ITEMS HERE QUICKLY FIRST.

UM, SO I JUST WANTED TO KIND OF DO THAT HERE BEFORE I DIVE INTO THE EXTENSION BUDGET.

UM, WHAT YOU'RE SEEING HERE ARE THE BUDGET BOOK PAGES.

UM, IN SOME CASES WE ALSO INCLUDE CAPITAL OUTLAY REQUEST FORMS AND, UM, AND FEE SCHEDULES.

IF, IF A PARTICULAR DEPARTMENT HAS FEES AND USER FEES, UM, UW EXTENSION DOESN'T, BUT WE'LL GET INTO SOME OF THOSE AS WE, UH, KIND OF GO THROUGH.

BUT CAPITAL OUTLAY REQUESTS REALLY JUST TO KIND OF LET YOU KNOW WHAT THOSE ARE, THAT'S TYPICALLY A SORT OF A ONE TIME TYPE ITEM THAT WE PURCHASE.

USUALLY A VALUE GREATER THAN $5,000, AND IT USUALLY LASTS MULTIPLE YEARS.

UH, WE TYPICALLY SPEND ONE TIME DOLLARS ON THESE AND, AND INSTEAD OF LEVYING FOR THEM, A LOT OF TIMES WE'LL USE, YOU KNOW, PROPERTY TAX RELIEF FUND OR THINGS LIKE THAT.

UM, SO THAT, THAT'S ONE THING YOU'LL SEE IN THE PACKET.

UM, AS I MENTIONED, WE ALSO HAVE FEE SCHEDULES IN THERE.

WHEN THOSE ARE NEW OR CHANGING, WE LIKE TO KIND OF CALL THOSE OUT.

SO, AND HAVE, AND HAVE THE STANDING COMMITTEES REVIEW THOSE, UM, PRIOR TO THEM BECOMING PERMANENT AND, AND ADOPTED IN THE BUDGET.

UM,

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UM, WE HAD STANDING COMMITTEE CHAIRS AT THOSE MEETINGS AS WELL, IN ADDITION TO THE COUNTY BOARD CHAIR, UM, WAS AT THOSE MEETINGS ALSO.

SO, UM, THOSE I THINK WERE VERY HELPFUL IN TERMS OF GIVING YOU THAT FIRST LOOK AT THE BUDGET AND HELPING KIND OF SECURE, UM, THAT ENGAGEMENT IN THAT, IN THAT, THAT BUY-IN FOR THE PROCESS.

UM, SO, YOU KNOW, BEFORE I DIVE INTO EXTENSION, UM, WE'RE GONNA TALK POLICY AND CONCEPTS.

WE'RE NOT GONNA TALK, UM, NECESSARILY LINE ITEMS AT THIS, AT THIS STAGE, RIGHT? UM, I ALWAYS SHARE THAT THERE'S, YOU KNOW, 5,000 OR MORE LINE ITEMS IN THIS BUDGET.

SO TO GO LINE BY LINE DOESN'T MAKE SENSE, AND I'M GONNA KEEP IT TO THE POLICY, AND I'M GONNA TALK ABOUT HOW THE POLICY IMPACTS THE DOLLARS AND HOW THAT GETS DRIVEN.

UM, SO, UM, I WILL MOVE RIGHT INTO THE UW EXTENSION PAGE.

AS I MENTIONED ON THE LAST PAGE OF THE PACKET, UM, FOR THIS BUDGET, UM, THIS IS THE FIRST TIME, UH, THAT, THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT, UH, THE BUDGET TO BUDGET IMPACTS OF SOME OF THOSE CHANGES THAT WERE MADE AS A RESULT OF THE, THE TASK FORCE.

AND THAT WORK THAT WAS DONE IN 2024, WE HAD SOME MODIFICATIONS THAT HAPPENED AND, AND WE DID MODIFY THE BUDGET, BUT THIS IS THE FIRST TIME WE'RE LOOKING AT IT ON PAPER 25 VERSUS 26.

UM, AND SO WHAT YOU'LL NOTICE IS THAT THOSE CHANGES RESULTED IN A, A COST REDUCTION OF MORE THAN, MORE THAN $50,000.

UM, THIS BUDGET ALSO INCLUDES, UM, AN ADJUSTMENT FOR THE FUTURE LOCATION CHANGE.

UM, REALLY YOU'LL NOTICE THAT IN THE INTERDEPARTMENTAL CHARGES LINE OF THAT EXPENDITURE SECTION AND THE OTHER EXPENSES LINE, UM, IN THAT SAME SECTION.

SO HISTORICALLY, WE'VE, UM, HISTORICALLY THE DEPARTMENT IS LOCATED IN THE PAC, AND SO WE CHARGE RENT AND WE PAY OURSELVES BACK WITH THAT RENT.

UM, THAT PRACTICE SINCE, SINCE THE DEPARTMENT IS MOVING, THAT PRACTICE WILL NO LONGER HAPPEN.

SO YOU'LL SEE THAT $34,000 REDUCTION COME OUT OF THAT LINE.

AND THEN, UM, IN ADD IN THE LINE BELOW IT, YOU'LL SEE THOSE COSTS BEING ADDED.

THERE.

AGAIN, THAT'S JUST A REFLECTION OF US PAYING RENT TO THE NEW PLACE.

UM, WE RECORD IT IN A DIFFERENT LINE, SO IT, IT SHIFTS LINES.

I JUST WANT TO KIND OF EXPLAIN THAT CONCEPT AS SOMETHING YOU'LL SEE IN THIS BUDGET.

UM, AND THEN THE LAST, THE LAST SIGNIFICANT CHANGE TO NOTE HERE IS, UH, AN ASSUMPTION THAT'S, THAT'S BEING MADE IN 2027 ABOUT SOME CO-FUNDING, UH, AND A REQUEST BEING MADE AROUND THE CO-FUNDING OF A, OF, UH, THE SECOND FOUR H EDUCATION EDUCATOR POSITION.

UM, WE WERE VERY SPECIFIC ABOUT THE WAY WE BUDGETED THIS, AND I, AND I'D ASKED JAMIE TO KIND OF TALK ABOUT WHY WE BUDGETED IT THIS WAY AND, AND, UM, AND WHAT THAT REQUEST IS.

SURE.

THANK YOU AARON.

UM, JUST TO ELABORATE, HE EXPLAINED IT PRETTY WELL, BUT WE DO ENVISION, AND I'M GLAD THAT OUR ASSISTANT DEAN IS HERE TO HEAR THIS, UM, BUT WE DO ENVISION KIND OF THE SHARED RESPONSIBILITY AND THE SHARED SUCCESS OF, UM, UH, KELLY'S POSITION.

WE HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO HEAR HER SPEAK ABOUT SOME OF THE WORK THAT SHE'S WORKING ON WITH THE SCHOOLS RIGHT NOW.

UM, AND, AND WE WANNA EXPRESS THAT COMMITMENT TO UW EXTENSION IN SHARING IN THOSE ROLES, AS WELL AS, UM, WORKING WITH THEM THROUGHOUT THE COURSE OF THE NEXT YEAR ON ANY, UM, BARRIERS TO THE INSTITUTE STRUCTURE OR OTHER STRUCTURES THAT MIGHT POTENTIALLY EXIST THAT WOULD PRECLUDE THEM, UM, FROM POTENTIALLY ASSISTING WITH THAT FUNDING.

SO WE WILL CONTINUE TO MAKE THAT REQUEST, UM, KNOWING THAT, UM, WE ARE, UH, EXPECTING THAT THAT, UM, IS A SOLUTION THAT WE'RE, WE'RE BANKING ON IN ORDER TO KEEP, UM, OUR BUDGET AFLOAT.

SO WE WILL, WE DID BUDGET IT AS A REVENUE, UM, MAINTAINING THE 1 36 EXPENSE AS WE, UM, HAVE FROM THEM IN THE ACCOUNTS.

UM, SO IT REALLY IS A, AN OPPORTUNITY FOR US TO, UM, MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE ADVOCATING THROUGHOUT THE NEXT YEAR FOR THAT REVENUE AND HAVING THOSE ON THAT ONGOING DIALOGUE AS WE EVOLVE THAT POSITION AND WE SEE SOME OF THAT WORK COME TO FRUITION.

SO I THINK IT'S A, IT'S AN OPPORTUNITY FOR ME, IT'S AN OPPORTUNITY FOR ALL OF YOU, UM, TO CONTINUE THAT DIALOGUE.

AND, AND SO THE COUNTY EXECUTIVE WANTED TO MAKE SURE WE PLACE THAT IN, IN THE BUDGET, UM, TO MAKE SURE THAT THAT IS THE CONVERSATION WE ARE HAVING WITH UW EXTENSION.

DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT THAT? BUT AT THIS POINT, WE DO NOT HAVE,

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UM, THAT EDUCATOR POSITION CO-FUNDED.

ONE OF THE COMMITMENTS WE MADE WHEN WE MADE THE CHANGES WAS THAT WE WERE GONNA, UM, FUND THAT SECOND FOUR H EDUCATOR, UM, EVEN THOUGH UW, UM, ELIMINATED OUR CO-FUNDING FOR OUR, UM, HUMAN RELATIONSHIP DEVELOPMENT EDUCATOR AND OUR, UM, COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT EDUCATOR AND OUR POSITIVE YOUTH DEVELOPMENT EDUCATOR.

UM, SO WE DID MOVE FORWARD ANYWAY, UM, WITH THE POSITION.

ANY QUESTIONS FROM THE COMMITTEE SUPERVISOR? GRES, WHERE IS THE NEW OFFICE LOCATED? MARINE PARK TECHNICAL COLLEGE.

WE ARE HOPING TO PLAN AN UPCOMING COMMITTEE MEETING OF THIS COMMITTEE AT THAT LOCATION, UM, JUST SO THAT WE CAN DO A TOUR OF THAT SPACE ONCE THEY MOVE IN JANUARY OR FEBRUARY.

SO, UM, I'LL BE COMING FORWARD WITH THAT REQUEST TO THE CHAIR TO SEE IF WE CAN COORDINATE THAT, BECAUSE IT IS AN, THERE IS ALSO AN OPEN HOUSE TONIGHT, I BELIEVE, RIGHT NOW.

UM, SO IF YOU HAVEN'T CHECKED IT OUT, IT'S AN OPPORTUNITY.

UH, IT'S HAPPENING RIGHT NOW, BUT SORRY, .

WE'LL HAVE TO COORDINATE A DIFFERENT ONE.

MR. DO YOU CAN CONTINUE.

ALRIGHT.

VERY GOOD.

UM, I'LL JUMP BACK TO THE FRONT OF THE PACKET.

UM, THAT MEANS WE'LL START WITH, UH, THE AGRICULTURE AND INDUSTRIAL SOCIETY.

ALL RIGHT.

UM, SO THE A IS BUDGET, UM, THIS IS WHERE WE BUDGET FOR OUR SUPPORT AND OUR RELATIONSHIP WITH THE A IS.

UM, HISTORICALLY THAT MEANS A $60,000 OPERATING GRANT.

UM, YOU'LL SEE IN THE 26 AND 27 BUDGET THAT WE'RE ALSO BUDGETING FOR THE COST OF THE OPERATING AGREEMENT, UH, FOR ENTERTAINMENT OUT AT THE FAIR.

UM, THAT'S, UH, AN INCREASE, UH, COST AND LEVY OF $25,000.

UM, ONE THING, UH, ONE OTHER THING, THE LAST THING I WANTED TO NOTE HERE IS, IS, UM, YOU'LL RECALL THAT WE'RE CURRENTLY SUBSIDIZING, UM, THOSE OPERATIONS OUT THERE AT, AT A, A TOTAL OF $210,000.

SO THAT'S THE 60,000 PLUS AN ADDITIONAL $50,000 ANNUALLY.

UM, THAT'S BASED ON THE PLEDGE THAT WAS MADE AND THE, AND THE GENERAL FUND TRANSFER THAT WAS MADE FOR 2024 AND 2025, UM, ADDITIONAL DOLLARS TO SUBSIDIZE THAT OPERATION ARE NOT INCLUDED IN HERE.

AND SO ADDITIONAL ACTION WOULD BE, WOULD BE REQUIRED TO ADDRESS, UH, FUTURE FUNDING PLEDGES.

UM, JAMIE, DID YOU HAVE ANYTHING TO ADD? YES, SO THERE IS A RESOLUTION ON THE BOOKS THAT COMMITS, UH, CONCEPTUALLY TO $150,000 PER YEAR FOR FIVE YEARS.

SO WE HAVE FUNDED TWO YEARS OF THAT COMMITMENT.

THERE IS A REMAINING BALANCE OF THREE YEARS.

IT IS LIKELY YOU WILL SEE US COMING FORWARD AS WE EXTEND THE OPERATING AGREEMENT IN THE NEXT THREE OR FOUR MONTHS WITH AN OVERALL UPDATED FINANCIAL OUTLOOK FROM A IS AN UPDATED FINANCIAL PLAN AND AN UPDATED REQUEST.

IT JUST IS NOT IN THIS BUDGET.

ANY QUESTIONS ON THAT? ALRIGHT, MOVING ON.

YES, THIS SUPERVISOR CONRAD.

SORRY ABOUT THAT SUPERVISOR CONRAD, PLEASE GO AHEAD.

THAT'S OKAY.

YEAH, I'M SORRY.

UM, JAMIE, I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE THAT I UNDERSTAND WHAT WHAT YOU JUST STATED AND, UM, BECAUSE IT'S BLANK RIGHT NOW FOR, YOU KNOW, FUTURE BUDGETS THAT THE A IS AND THAT'S THE A IS COORDINATOR, WHICH WE, YOU KNOW, CURRENTLY, UM, SUPPORT WITH THE, OUR LOCAL PRDS.

AND IT'S A SHARED, THE A S COORDINATOR IS, IS ALSO SHARED TOO, UM, WITH OZAKI COUNTY.

SO RIGHT NOW, THERE, EVEN THOUGH IT'S ESSENTIALLY SHOWING ZERO THAT IT'S NOT SUPPORTED IN HERE, THAT YOU DO HAVE SOME TYPES OF PLAN TWO STILL TO BRING IT BACK INTO THIS BUDGET AND HAVE IT SUPPORTED.

SO THIS IS REALLY CONFUSING.

SUPERVISOR CONRAD, I, I APOLOGIZE.

RIGHT NOW WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE AGRICULTURAL AND INDUSTRIAL SOCIETY.

SO THE FAIR, SO THE FAIR PARK, OH, I'M SORRY.

SO, UM, SO THE, THE FUNDING THAT WAS SUBSIDIZING THE CEO, WHICH IS SPECIFICALLY STACEY HOLLAND'S POSITION, IS THAT, IS THE FUNDING THAT IS SHOWING UP IN THE ACTUAL NUMBERS HERE.

UM, IT DOES NOT YET SHOW UP IN THE REQUESTED BUDGET FOR END FOR THAT SUBSIDY.

THAT, THAT MAKES MORE SENSE TO ME.

I THANK YOU SO MUCH, .

I THOUGHT I WAS MISSING SOMETHING.

IF THERE ARE NO ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS, UM, ON THAT AREA, I'LL MOVE INTO THE NEXT BUDGET, WHICH IS COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT.

SORRY, I COULD HAVE BEEN MORE CLEAR ON THAT ONE.

UM,

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YEAH, YEAH, NO, YEAH, I WAS JUST GONNA SAY THANK YOU.

JUST THOSE, THE ACRONYMS AND THINGS ARE, ARE THE SAME, SO THANK YOU.

SURE.

UM, THE BUDGET FOR COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT IS SPLIT INTO, UH, SEVERAL WHAT WE CALL COST CENTERS.

YOU SEE SEVERAL SECTIONS OF FINANCIAL TABLES ON THAT BUDGET BOOK PAGE.

UM, THE TOP ONE, THE COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT AREA IS THE NEWEST, UM, BUDGET AREA.

YOU'LL, YOU'LL, YOU MIGHT RECALL THAT WE CREATED THIS PO THIS DEPARTMENT ALONG WITH THREE POSITIONS, UH, IN THE 20 22 20 23 BUDGET.

UM, THAT GROUPING HAS BEEN FUNDED WITH ARPA EVER SINCE WE, SINCE ITS CREATION.

UM, ARPA FUNDING EXPIRES IN AT THE END OF 2026.

UM, SO WE, OUR BUDGETING FOR THAT ARPA FUNDING TO CONTINUE, UH, THROUGH THE 2026 YEAR OF THIS BUDGET IN 2027.

UM, THAT FUNDING SHIFTS, UH, TO, UM, TO, IT, IT'S, IT'S SHOWING IN HERE AS, UH, ESSENTIALLY A USE OF, OF GENERAL FUND BALANCE.

UM, THE ASSUMPTION ABOUT THE SOURCE OF THAT GENERAL FUND BALANCE IS, IS THAT IT COMES FROM THE PROCEEDS FROM, UM, THE SALE OF, OF COUNTY ASSETS, COUNTY BUILDINGS, FOR EXAMPLE.

UM, THE, THE ASSUMPTION ABOUT THE DEPARTMENT CONTINUING TO BE FUNDED IN 27, IT, IT'S, IT'S IMPORTANT BECAUSE THAT THAT DEPARTMENT IN THOSE POSITIONS ARE CRUCIAL FOR CONTINUING THE WORK THAT'S, THAT'S BEING DONE FOR, UM, IN, IN THE NEXT GEN HOUSING, UM, AREA, AS WELL AS, UM, THE IMPORTANT WORK THAT'S BEING DONE RIGHT NOW BY THE WASHINGTON COUNTY REDEVELOPMENT, UH, TASK FORCE.

I'M NOT SURE IF I'M GETTING THAT NAME RIGHT.

I THINK THE VISION MIGHT BE IN THERE.

UM, BUT, BUT THE TASK FORCE THAT'S CHARGED WITH PLANNING FOR THE FUTURE AND POTENTIAL DEVELOPMENT OF, OF COUNTY LAND, UM, THE, THE, THIS COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT DEPARTMENT IS, IS IMPORTANT IN EXECUTING THAT STRATEGY.

AND SO WE'RE, WE'RE CONTINUING THE FUNDING FOR, FOR THAT GROUPING IN THAT DEPARTMENT.

UM, ALSO IN THIS SAME GROUPING IS, UH, $500,000 OF ONGOING FUNDING FOR THE HEART AND HOMESTEAD PROGRAM.

UM, YOU'LL REMEMBER THAT WITH, UH, LAST FALL, UM, WE PASSED, UM, WE PASSED A BUDGET REPAIR RESOLUTION, UM, THAT IDENTIFIED A, A, A PERMANENT FUNDING SOURCE FOR THIS.

UM, THAT FUNDING SOURCE YOU'LL REMEMBER WAS TIED DIRECTLY TO INTEREST ON INVESTMENTS.

UM, WE PASSED A, A, A TRAILER RESOLUTION, UM, IN, IN THE MONTHS FOLLOWING THAT, UH, SET A SUNSET, UH, FOR, FOR THE PROGRAM.

IN THE EVENT THAT INTEREST ON INVESTMENTS DECLINED BELOW A CERTAIN LEVEL, THE PROGRAM WOULD SUNSET.

UM, WE'RE NOT ESTIMATING THAT THAT HAPPENS IN THIS BUDGET.

AND SO THE FUNDING FOR THAT PROGRAM HAS BEEN INCLUDED HERE.

UM, IT'S, IT'S SHOWING HERE, UM, THE BOTTOM LINE HERE IS SHOWING AS AS PROPERTY TAX LEVY IMPACT, BUT AGAIN, THAT'S, THAT'S INTEREST ON INVESTMENTS.

THOSE, THOSE INVESTMENTS ARE BOOKED IN ONE CENTRAL LOCATION ELSEWHERE IN THE BUDGET.

SO IT'S OFFSETTING LEVY IN ANOTHER SPOT, AND IT'S SHOWING UP AS LEVY HERE, BUT, BUT THE NET IMPACT IS ZERO LEVY.

IT'S, IT'S FUNDED WITH INTEREST ON INVESTMENTS.

MOVING INTO THE NEXT SECTION, WHICH IS PLANNING.

UM, SO THIS IS OBVIOUSLY WHERE WE BUDGET FOR PLANNING SERVICES.

UH, WE ALSO BUDGET THE SHARED PLANNER, UM, WHEN WE PROVIDE SHARED MUNICIPAL PLANNING SERVICES, UH, AS PART OF THE, OUR SHARED SERVICES AGREEMENTS.

UM, THAT'S, THAT'S IN THIS BUDGET AS WELL.

UM, ONE THING TO POINT OUT IN, IN THIS AREA, UM, IN THE REVENUE AREA IS, IS FEES.

UM, THE FEE AMOUNTS HERE ARE SMALL.

UM, BUT I WANTED TO POINT OUT THAT THOSE FEES WERE CUT IN HALF FOR THE COMING BIENNIUM.

UM, UM, I, I, THAT'S, THAT'S THE, THE FEE SCHEDULE IS THE PAPER DOCUMENT THAT I PASSED OUT.

THE, THE SCHEDULE THAT'S IN THE PACKET, UM, IT'S, IT'S AT THE END OF THE COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT SECTION THAT THE SCHEDULE THAT'S IN THE PACKET.

UM, WE ERRONEOUSLY INCLUDED THE, THE AN OLD VERSION.

THE, AND SO THE VERSION YOU SEE ON, ON YOUR TABLE, UM, HAS THOSE FEES CUT IN HALF.

UM, AND SO BY HAVING, HAVING THOSE FEES, UM, YOU'RE, YOU KNOW, YOU'RE NOT TALKING HUGE DOLLARS, BUT I THINK CUTTING FEES IS IMPORTANT, UM, WHENEVER WE CAN, AND YOU'RE NOT SEEING A SIGNIFICANT BUDGET

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TO BUDGET IMPACT HERE.

UM, AND THAT'S MOSTLY BECAUSE IF YOU LOOK AT THE 25 ESTIMATE, UH, UNDER PUBLIC CHARGES FOR SERVICES IN THAT PLANNING SECTION, UM, THE THE 2025 ESTIMATE, UM, IS A SIGNIFICANT REVENUE INCREASE FROM WHERE WE BUDGETED.

AND SO WE WERE GONNA PLAN FOR 26 AND 27 TO BUDGET A SIMILAR AMOUNT.

INSTEAD WE CUT THAT AMOUNT IN HALF.

AND THAT'S WHY THAT'S WHAT YOU'RE SEEING, THE 8 75 AND 26 AND 27.

SO AGAIN, NOT HIGH DOLLARS, BUT ANYTIME WE CAN CUT FEES, WE WANT TO CALL OUT ATTENTION TO THAT.

UM, THE, YOU KNOW, THERE'S, THERE'S NOT A LOT OF OTHER CHANGES HERE THAT I WANTED TO TALK ABOUT.

THERE'S THE BROWNFIELD SECTION, UM, OF COURSE INCLUDES, UM, WELL, CAN YOU GO BACK TO SEWER PACK OR WERE YOU WELL, YEAH.

OH, OKAY.

, I WAS LIKE, THOUGHT MAYBE HE SKIPPED IT.

THE, THE BROWNFIELD SECTION IS REALLY JUST AN ACCOUNTING FOR OUR BROWNFIELDS PROGRAM.

WE DON'T BUDGET FOR A LOT FOR, FOR THAT, BUT WE DO INCLUDE IT AS AN ACCOUNTING.

NOW THE LAST THING I WANTED TO TALK ABOUT SEWER PACK, UM, IN THE PLANNING SECTION, YOU'LL SEE IN OTHER EXPENSES $186,000, UM, BEING REMOVED FROM THAT BUDGET LINE.

UM, THE, SO AGAIN, THE BUDGET TO BUDGET IMPACT IS 186,000, BUT WE KNOW THAT THOSE COSTS ARE INCREASING FOR 2026.

SO THAT ACTUAL COST WOULD BE MORE LIKE $197,000 TO ADD THAT BACK IN.

UM, WE'VE TALKED ALONG A LOT ABOUT SEWER PACK.

UM, I DON'T HAVE ANYTHING TO ADD ON THAT.

I KNOW, I KNOW JAMIE, UM, MIGHT HAVE SOME THINGS TO ADD ON THAT.

UM, BUT THAT'S WHERE I WAS GONNA STOP IN TERMS OF THE COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT BUDGET.

UM, AND, AND STOP FOR QUESTIONS AND, AND ANY COMMENTS THAT JAMIE WANTED TO MAKE.

UM, VERSUS, UH, SO WE WERE TALKING SPECIFICALLY ABOUT NOT FUNDING IN 2026 AND NOT FUNDING IN 2027, RIGHT? SO THE IDEA THAT YOU COULD POTENTIALLY FUND IN 2026 BUT NOT FUND IN 2027.

WELL I THINK MAYBE JAMIE, YOU GO AHEAD AND SPEAK FIRST 'CAUSE MAYBE YOU'LL INCITE SOME QUESTIONS FROM THE COMMITTEE.

UM, PROBABLY NOT, BUT I WILL, UM, ADD, I DID WANNA READ AN EMAIL I GOT TODAY FROM STEPHANIE HACKER, THE EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF SEWER PACK.

SO WE DID HAVE A MEETING IN THE COUNTY EXECUTIVE'S OFFICE WITH HER EARLIER THIS WEEK, AND THERE WAS SOME CONVERSATION IN THAT MEETING WHERE WE WERE TALKING ABOUT 2026 BEING THREE MONTHS AWAY.

UM, AND THAT FOLLOW UP TO THAT WAS THAT, UM, WE, WE HAD DISCUSSED THAT WE WOULD SHARE THIS, SEEING THAT THE BUDGET IS NOW IN THE HANDS OF THE COMMITTEE AND THE COUNTY BOARD THAT WE WOULD SHARE KIND OF THE EMAIL I'M ABOUT TO READ WITH YOU, UM, AS YOU DELIBERATE ON THE BUDGET.

SO IT SAYS, GOOD AFTERNOON, THANK YOU AGAIN FOR OUR MEETING THIS PAST TUESDAY WITH THE COUNTY EXECUTIVE AND CHIEF OF STAFF.

THE COMMISSION RECOGNIZES WASHINGTON COUNTY'S KEY BUDGET ISSUES AND CONTINUING PRIORITIES.

WE REMAIN HOPEFUL THAT GIVEN WHERE WE ARE IN 2025, THE COMMISSION AND WASHINGTON COUNTY CAN PROCEED IN EARNEST WITH A PARTNERSHIP THAT INCLUDES THE FOLLOWING FOR 2026 WASHINGTON COUNTY.

IF PROCEEDING WITH ITS COMMITMENT TO FUND THE COMMISSION IN 2026 WOULD RECEIVE A COMMITMENT LETTER OR MEMORANDUM OF UNDERSTANDING FROM THE COMMISSION BEFORE THE START OF THE YEAR.

THIS LETTER WOULD ACKNOWLEDGE WASHINGTON COUNTY'S PRIORITIES AND IDENTIFY SPECIFIC EFFORTS FROM THE COMMISSION'S 2026 OVERALL WORK PROGRAM THAT CAN ADDRESS THE COUNTY PRIORITIES.

PLEASE NOTE THE COMMISSION IS REQUIRED TO PREPARE AN ANNUAL OVERALL WORK PROGRAM BY THE UNITED STATES DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION, NAMELY THE FEDERAL HIGHWAY ADMINISTRATION AND FEDERAL TRANSIT ADMINISTRATION TO UTILIZE FEDERAL DOLLARS IN ADDRESSING THE REGION'S NEEDS.

PUT CANDIDLY, BASED ON MY UNDERSTANDING OF PRIOR DISCUSSIONS WITH THE COUNTY, THE COMMISSION DOES NOT SELF-IMPOSE A 200 PAGE WORK PROGRAM TO GUIDE THE AGENCY ON AN ANNUAL BASIS.

WASHINGTON COUNTY, AFTER RECEIVING ONE INVOICE FROM THE COMMISSION FOR THE 2026 PAYMENT, COULD ELECT TO MAKE BIANNUAL OR QUARTERLY PAYMENTS IN 2020 SECOND, 2026 TOWARD THE INVOICE.

THE ABOVE OUR ITEMS THE COMMISSION CAN PROVIDE ACROSS THE BOARD TO THE REGION'S COUNTIES.

I HOPE THESE CONCEPTS AID THE BOARD'S UPCOMING BUDGET DELIBERATIONS.

SO A CLEAR AND VALUED PARTNERSHIP CAN CONTINUE BETWEEN THE WASHINGTON COUNTY, ITS COMMUNITIES AND THE COMMISSION.

SINCERELY, STEPHANIE, UM, WITH THAT I WILL JUST COMMENT THAT I DO THINK THAT WAS A VERY KIND WAY AND SHE, SHE PUT A LOT OF TIME INTO EXPRESSING HOW SHE WOULD, HOW SHE WOULD MOVE FORWARD IN 2026.

AND THAT WAS BEHIND OUR CONVERSATION, WHICH WAS ESSENTIALLY IN LAYMAN'S TERMS, UM, 2026 IS COMING VERY QUICKLY.

AND SO AN UNDERSTANDING OF HOW THIS WAS GONNA WORK FOR 2026 WAS, WAS IMPORTANT.

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SO THAT, THAT WAS THE CONVERSATION THAT RESULTED IN THIS EMAIL.

SO IT WAS KIND OF MORE OF A TIMING QUESTION ABOUT THE COMMITMENT TO FUND, UM, AS IT'S, AS THE BUDGET IS RECOMMENDED TO YOU TONIGHT.

UM, SHOULD IT PASS THE COUNTY BOARD WITH NO FUNDING IN 2026 AND NO FUNDING IN 2027, WE WOULD THEN LOOK TO INTERPRET THE STATUTES AND WORK, UM, WITH OUR LEGAL COUNSEL AND OTHER COUNSEL TO PROVIDE NOTICE ON VACATING SEWER PACK, UM, AS IT RELATES TO FUNDING NOT BE NOT BEING PROVIDED IN 2026 AND 2027.

SO THAT WOULD KIND OF BE THE COURSE SHOULD THE BUDGET BE APPROVED AS RECOMMENDED.

AND THAT IS ALL I HAVE TO ADD.

UH, CHAIRMAN SLE, UH, WOULD LIKE TO ENTER INTO THE CONVERSATION IF YOU WOULD, UM, JUST FOR EVERYONE'S INFORMATION.

THANK YOU SUPERVISOR CONRAD, THIS TIME I SEE YOU.

YOU GO RIGHT AHEAD.

THANK YOU CHAIR.

AND I JUST WANNA MAKE A COMMENT THAT I, YOU KNOW, OBVIOUSLY LAST MONTH, YOU KNOW, VOICED SOME CONCERNS BECAUSE WE DIDN'T, UM, HAVE THE, YOU KNOW, THE VOICE OF THE POTENTIAL KEY STAKEHOLDER, ST KEY STAKEHOLDERS THAT THIS MIGHT IMPACT.

UM, BUT WITHIN MY DISTRICT, I HAVE RECEIVED A COMMENTS BACK FROM KEY STAKEHOLDERS AND AT THIS TIME THEY DON'T HAVE ANY CONCERNS, UNDERSTAND THE COUNTY WANTING TO TRIAL, UM, THIS ALSO AND, YOU KNOW, SUPPORT US, YOU KNOW, TRIALING A LA CARTE, UM, POTENTIALLY TO AS NEEDS, UM, ARISE AND ADDRESS THOSE ONE BY ONE.

I JUST WANTED TO SHARE THAT WITH YOU ALL.

SO I WILL SUPPORT KEEPING THIS OUT OF THE BUDGET.

THANK YOU SUPERVISOR.

CONRAD, ANY OTHER COMMITTEE MEMBERS WISH TO SPEAK ON THIS PARTICULAR TOPIC? SUPERVISOR? YES, SIR.

I HAVE A QUESTION.

OH, , SORRY, SUPERVISOR MARY, GO AHEAD.

YEAH, I'M, I'M SORRY IF SOMEONE, IF I INTERRUPTED SOMEONE, I CAN'T SEE THAT WELL FROM HERE, UH, AT LAST MONTH'S MEETING, WE TALKED ABOUT THE FACT THAT WE HAVE TO NOTIFY SEWER PAC BY THE END OF JUNE OF EACH YEAR REGARDING FUNDING FOR THE SUBSEQUENT YEAR.

UH, AND SO MY UNDERSTANDING, YOU'RE RIGHT JAMIE, THAT, UH, WE'RE, WE'RE, WE'RE, WE'RE STILL FEASIBLY NOT GOING TO FUND SEWER PAC FOR 2026, BUT THAT HAS YET TO BE DETERMINED.

IS THAT CORRECT? YOU ARE CORRECT THAT IT HAS NOT YET BEEN DETERMINED.

ALRIGHT.

SO HOW DOES THIS AFFECT BUDGET? IF WE DECIDE, IF SOMEONE DECIDES THAT, HEY, WE DIDN'T DO IT BY THE END OF JUNE, YOU GOTTA PAY IT ANYWAY.

I MEAN THE WHY WE, I THINK THIS IS THE $186,000 CORRECT.

SOMETHING, SOMETHING TO THAT EFFECT.

MM-HMM.

YES, I BELIEVE WHAT, WHAT HAPPENED, WE, WHAT WE HAVE HAPPENED HAVE STARTED THOSE CONVERSATIONS INTERNALLY, I THINK IT WAS OUR INTENT TO WAIT FOR THE POLICY DIRECTION FROM THE COUNTY BOARD OF WHICH DIRECTION THEY ARE TAKING.

IF WE, IF WE GET A PULSE THAT, THAT IT IS LIKELY TO BE CONFIRMED THAT FUNDING WILL NOT BE INCLUDED.

UM, WE WILL GO BACK AND START WORKING ON THAT QUESTION AS EARLY AS NEXT WEEK WITH REGARDS TO HOW THAT CONVERSATION MIGHT GO.

UM, BUT WE, WE HAVE STARTED SOME PRELIMINARY RESEARCH ON THAT.

UM, BUT IT'S GOING TO INVOLVE THE COUNTY TAKING A POSITION ON ITS INTERPRETATION OF A MULTITUDE OF STATUTES.

NOW YOU'RE SAYING YOU MAY HAVE SOME GUIDANCE ON THAT AS EARLY AS NEXT WEEK, BUT WHEN, WHEN WILL THERE BE A FINAL DECISION ON THIS? NOT UNTIL THE OCTOBER MEETING.

CORRECT.

THE COUNTY BOARD WON'T, WE WON'T KNOW IF THE COUNTY BOARD IS GOING TO MAKE ANY AMENDMENTS ON THE BUDGET UNTIL NOVEMBER.

UM, OCTOBER.

OCTOBER.

SO YOU'RE JUST, YOU'RE SAYING YOU'RE PLANNING, WE'LL START NEXT WEEK ON THIS AND HOW, HOW WE'RE GONNA REACT TO EITHER PLAN A OR PLAN B? YES, WE HAVE STARTED THE PLANNING.

SO WE HAVE STARTED THESE CONVERSATIONS.

UM, BUT AS I SAID, IT'LL BE COME DOWN TO, IN KIND OF AN OPERATIONAL, UM, DECISION REGARDING HOW WE APPROACH THE STATUTES AND, AND WHAT WE DO.

AND I THINK IF WE DO FIND WE NEED FUNDING, WE, WE CAN, WE WOULD COME BACK OR WE WOULD, UM, USE OTHER AVAILABLE FUNDING, UM, IF NEEDED DEPENDING ON KIND OF THE CONVERSATION.

BUT I WOULD WOULD BELIEVE THAT IT WOULD BE A ONGOING CONVERSATION WITH THIS COMMITTEE BECAUSE IT'S GOING TO ENTER A NEGOTIATION OF SOME SORT.

SO DON'T CHANGE THE CHANNEL.

UH, JUST BEFORE YOU YEAH, UH,

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UM, DOOR COUNTY PULLED OUT OF SURAK OR THEIR REGIONAL PLANNING COMMISSION, UM, SOME YEARS AGO, I THINK 12 YEARS AGO.

AND, UM, THE COUNTY EXECUTIVE AND I AND THE CHIEF OF STAFF HAVE A MEETING SCHEDULED WITH THEM NEXT TUESDAY MORNING AT THE WCA CONFERENCE.

SO WE WILL FIND OUT IN HARD NUMBERS HOW IT WORKED OUT FOR THEM, WHAT WAS THE FALLOUT, WHAT THEY HAD TO PAY, ET CETERA.

SO WE WILL KNOW MORE AFTER THAT.

I'M OFF, CAN YOU PUT TOUCH SCREEN? THANK YOU.

CHAIRMAN SCH LIFE, UH, CHAIR WILL RECOGNIZE, UH, SUPERVISOR KREBS.

THANK YOU MR. CHAIRMAN.

UM, SO LOOKING THROUGH THE BUDGET LINE, IT'S 186 THAT'S GOING FROM THAT TO ZERO.

IF IT WOULD GET ADDED BACK IN, IT'S ACTUALLY PROBABLY 1 97 RANGE.

WHAT ABOUT THE ADDITIONAL FEES THAT WE'VE BEEN PAYING IN THE PAST THAT WE'RE EITHER, ARE EITHER GONNA GO TO ZERO TWO OR I DON'T KNOW WHAT THEY WOULD END UP BEING IN THE FUTURE.

WHERE WOULD I, WHERE ARE THOSE ACCOUNTED FOR ON THIS BUDGET? FOR THE MOST PART, THOSE FEES GET, UM, THEY'RE BUILT INTO A LOT OF TIMES TO THE LAND INFORMATION PLAN, FOR EXAMPLE.

UM, SO LIKE THE ORTHO PHOTOGRAPHY AND THOSE SORTS OF THINGS ARE BUILT INTO THE LAND INFORMATION PLAN.

UM, THE ANYTHING ELSE THAT'S DONE SORT OF ON A PROJECT BASIS WOULDN'T BE PLANNED FOR IN A BUDGET PER SE.

IT WOULD PROBABLY BE DONE THROUGH THE APPROPRIATIONS PROCESS WHEN WE TAKE ON A PROJECT.

THEN WE WOULD, YOU KNOW, LIKE, LIKE IF, IF DEB NEEDED TO USE A SERVICE OF SOME KIND, UM, WE WOULD ENTER A SEPARATE AGREEMENT, UM, AND IT WOULD SHOW UP THERE IN THAT BUDGET.

UM, BUT, BUT WE DON'T TYPICALLY BUDGET ON AN ANNUAL BASIS FOR THINGS LIKE THAT.

SO JUST USING ORTHO AS AN EXAMPLE THEN, LIKE ARE WE FOR THE 2026 YEAR IS LIKE, ARE WE GONNA SEE SMALL INCREMENTAL DECREASES IN ALL THOSE LIKE BUDGETS OR LINE ITEMS TOO? OR ARE WE STILL CONTINUING TO CARRY SOME OF THAT, THOSE FEES JUST KNOWING THAT WE'LL LIKELY NEED TO SPEND MONEY ELSEWHERE TO REPLACE SOME OF THOSE SERVICES AT? YEAH, AT THIS POINT WE STILL HAVE A FULL, FULL BALANCE OF, OF SPEND ACCORDING TO THE PLAN IN THE LAND INFORMATION PLAN.

SO WE ARE ASSUMING THAT WE CONTINUE TO SPEND, UM, WE HAVEN'T, WE HAVEN'T PLANNED, UM, YOU KNOW, A PRESCRIPTIVE INCREASE FOR ANY, ANYTHING PER SE.

UM, WE'RE, WE'RE STILL FOLLOWING THE PLAN.

UM, BUT THOSE DOLLARS ARE ALL STILL IN THERE AND, AND YOU'LL SEE THOSE IN A FEW, IN A FEW MINUTES.

WE DON'T HAVE A FULL SCALE ROADMAP.

SO IF, AND IT'S NOT REALLY THE BUDGET, BUT IT'S THE PLAN OF LIFE AFTER SEWER PACK I'LL CALL IT.

DO WE HAVE A, LIKE A ROADMAP OF WHAT, WHAT WE'LL START DOING TO REPLACE SEWER PACK AS FAR AS HOW OFTEN ARE WE GOING TO HAVE TO CONTRACT OUT FOR SERVICES, YOU KNOW, AS NEEDED? 'CAUSE LIKE THEY'LL USE A COMP PLAN, WHICH IS ONCE EVERY 10 YEARS, BUT JOSH AT THE LAST COUNTY BOARD MEETING SAID, WELL, WE COULD JUST FILE ONE PIECE OF PAPER AND CONSIDER THAT OR UPDATE, YOU KNOW, THAT WE WON'T HAVE A A COST WITH THAT.

BUT LIKE, SAY WHEN WE WANT TO DO LIKE THE, WHATEVER THE ACRONYM IS, THE, THE, THE FLYOVER FOR THE RADAR.

OH, LIDAR.

LIDAR, MM-HMM .

UM, THERE'S CLEARLY A COST FOR THAT.

SO LIKE OUR, I JUST WANNA KNOW THAT WE HAVE MONEY, LIKE KIND OF CONSISTENTLY IN OUR BUDGETS, EVEN IF IT'S NOT UTILIZED, LET'S SAY 26 OR 27.

BUT IF WE DO THAT FLY OVER IN 28 THAT WE'VE ALREADY SAVED UP FOR PART OF IT, SO WE GET MORE OF AN AVERAGE, OUR NEW AVERAGE SPENDING KIND OF CARRIED IN, PUT IN THE BUDGETS AND CARRIED OVER IN THE FUTURE OR SOMETHING THEN.

'CAUSE I THINK IT'S SLIGHTLY NOT REALISTIC TO LOOK AT THIS AND SAY, OH, WE'RE SAVING 186,000.

WE'LL, WE WILL STILL HAVE SOME ADDITIONAL COSTS HERE SOMEWHERE, AND IT MIGHT NOT BE IN THE FIRST TWO YEARS, BUT DOWN THE ROAD THERE WILL BE SOME COSTS THAT WE'RE GONNA WANT.

AND I THEN WE'LL SEE A BIG JUMP WHEN WE GET TO THOSE.

AND THAT'S NOT, I DON'T KNOW, UNLESS WE'RE COOKING IT INTO CIP OR SOME OTHER AREA.

YEAH, I THINK YOU'VE, YOU'VE ARTICULATED THE, THE DIFFICULTY IN SORT OF PROJECTING THAT OUT.

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I KNOW INDIVIDUAL POCKETS ARE STARTING TO PLAN WHAT IT MIGHT LOOK LIKE, UM, BUT WE'RE BUILDING THE AIRPLANE AS WE FLY IT.

UM, IT'S, IT'S SOMEONE, SOMEONE ONCE TOLD ME THAT , I'VE USED THAT BEFORE.

UM, I, I THINK TO, TO A CERTAIN EXTENT, YES, WE DON'T HAVE A, LIKE I SAID, WE DON'T HAVE A FULL ROADMAP BUILT OUT PER SE.

UM, THERE ARE, THERE ARE SEVERAL HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS REMAINING IN THE, IN THE LAND INFORMATION BUDGET.

UM, OR, OR FUND RATHER.

UM, YOU KNOW, WE ADOPTED THAT PLAN BACK IN JULY.

UM, SO, SO IT, IT, IT DOESN'T NECESSARILY CONTEMPLATE BIG CHANGES LIKE THIS, BUT THAT PLAN DOES GET MODIFIED ON A REGULAR BASIS.

UM, AND, AND, UH, I WOULD SAY THAT IT COULD BE ADAPTED THEN TO THE NEW NORMAL OR THE NEW ROADMAP.

UM, UH, THIS, THE PULLING OUT WAS SORT OF PACKED.

THIS JUST SEEMS VERY, THIS TOO BLACK AND WHITE ON THIS BUDGET HERE FOR THE FOLLOW.

ALLOW ME TO UNDERSTAND IT.

ALLOW ME GRAY IT UP FOR YOU.

SO, , UM, AND I, AND I, I DON'T HAVE THE INFORMATION IN FRONT OF ME, BUT I WAS READING THAT BASICALLY THERE'S SOMETHING WHERE THERE HAS TO BE A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF MONEY STILL APPLIED TO CPAC EVEN AFTER WE WERE TO GET OUT OF IT.

UH, IS THAT SOUNDING FAMILIAR TO YOU? I THOUGHT THERE WAS LIKE A SIX MONTH KIND OF, UH, UH, I THINK THAT'S PART OF THE ANALYSIS THAT YEAH, THE ANALYSIS THAT I HAD.

YEAH, THAT'S WHAT IT WAS.

THANK YOU FOR REMINDING ME.

UM, SEE THAT BECOMING INVOLVED HERE.

MM-HMM .

ALL OF THOSE POINTS, BECAUSE PART OF IT IS WHEN, WHEN WAS NOTICE GIVEN, RIGHT? WHAT IS THE POSITION OF THE COUNTY ON THAT QUESTION? HAVE WE GIVEN NOTICE, HAVE WE NOT? RIGHT.

SO I MEAN, I THINK ALL OF THOSE QUESTIONS ARE GONNA BE THE, THE DISCUSSION THAT HAPPENS.

UM, BUT I THINK AT THIS POINT WE'RE JUST KIND OF LOOKING TO CONFIRM THAT THIS IS THE DIRECTION WE'RE GOING, AND THEN WE WILL, WE'LL LAUNCH INTO THE EXIT STRATEGY.

AND I THINK IN THE CONVERSATION THAT WE WERE HAVING, THAT WAS, THERE'S SOME UNDERSTANDING ON BOTH WITH BOTH PARTIES THAT IT IS GOING TO BE, THERE ARE SOME LOGISTICS WITH THAT, BECAUSE A LOT OF THE THINGS THAT SEWER PAC DOES DO TAKES MANY YEARS.

SO, FOR EXAMPLE, WE GOT NOTICE LAST WEEK REGARDING THE UPDATE TO THE REGIONAL WATER QUALITY PLAN AND OUR PARTICIPATION.

WE CURRENTLY HAVE SITTING MEMBERS ON THE SOUTHEASTERN WISCONSIN REGIONAL PLANNING COMMISSION BOARD.

UM, SO AT WHAT POINT DO WE DO WE ARE, WE'RE STILL PAYING SEWER PACK DUES FOR 2025 IF WE HAVE NOTICE REQUIREMENTS, YOU KNOW, AT WHAT POINT DO WE STOP? IT DOESN'T MAKE SENSE TO NECESSARILY STOP IN THE MIDDLE OF SOMETHING OR SOMETHING THAT'S NEARING COMPLETION, BUT CERTAINLY STARTING NEW THINGS THAT ARE GONNA BE A LONG-TERM UNDERTAKING.

RIGHT.

SO ALL OF THAT, AND I THINK THAT WAS THE POINT OF HER EMAIL REGARDING THE COMMENT OF, UM, ISSUING A MEMORANDUM OF UNDERSTANDING WITH THE COUNTY AND COMING TO SORT OF AN AGREEMENT FOR 2026 ON WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE.

UM, SO, SO 2026 IS THREE MONTHS FROM NOW.

SO THAT WAS THE, THAT WAS THE CONTEXT OF THE CONVERSATION, UM, WHEN WE WERE DISCUSSING, UM, HOW TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THE COUNTY EXECUTIVE'S BUDGET IT.

WE'RE FORGETTING SOMETHING.

ANY OTHER COMMENTS BY THE COMMITTEE? YEAH, JUST A FOLLOW UP COMMENT.

IT'S GONNA PROBABLY SOUND LIKE THE, THE FIRST ONE SOMEWHAT, BUT I JUST FEEL LIKE THE COUNTY EXEC BY PROS, BY PROPOSING PULLING OUT A SEWER PACK IS, IS FINE OR GREAT, WHATEVER, BUT THERE'S JUST NO, WHAT'S THE NEXT PLAN AFTERWARDS? THERE'S NO, WHAT'S THE NEXT STEP? I DON'T KNOW WHEN THE NEXT TIME WE'RE GONNA GET UPDATED OR THOUGH, OR WE'RE GONNA, WHAT WE'RE GONNA DO FOR ANY OF OUR REQUIREMENTS.

WHAT DO, YOU'RE TALKING A WATER, REGIONAL WATER QUALITY THING? DO WE NEED TO MAKE OUR OWN WA WASHINGTON COUNTY WATER QUALITY REPORT? MM-HMM .

LIKE, I, I JUST DON'T KNOW, UNDERSTAND ALL THESE BIG FEDERAL, WHICH I HATE ALL THESE REGULATIONS TO START WITH, BUT WE'RE GONNA GET KICKED HERE SOMEWHERE.

SO I, I'M CHALLENGING OR ASKING THE COUNTY EXEC'S OFFICE TO MAP THIS OUT A LITTLE BETTER.

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WELL, WELL, NOT TODAY, BUT IN GENERAL.

SO THE QUESTION I JUST ASKED WAS IF BUDGET AMENDMENTS COULD BE MADE THAT WERE NOT FINANCIAL, WHAT'S THE EXAMPLE? SO IN THIS CASE, THE EXAMPLE MIGHT BE, UM, REQUIRING A REPORT ON THE EXIT STRATEGY OF SEWER PACK OR SOMETHING OF THAT NATURE IN THE BUDGET BILL.

WE DON'T KNOW THE ANSWER TO THAT.

WE WILL GET THE ANSWER TO THAT JUMPING OFF A CLIFF WITHOUT KNOWING HOW, HOW HIGH THE CLIFF IS.

OR THIS IS LIKE MY TEENAGE SON COMING HOME AND SAYING HE QUIT HIS JOB AND I'M NOT ASKING HIM IF HE HAS THE NEW JOB YET.

AND HE GOES, NO.

AND I'M LIKE, WHEN ARE YOU GONNA GET YOUR NEW JOB? AND HE GOES, I DON'T KNOW, , THERE'S A LOT OF UNKNOWNS HERE.

IT'S, IT, WE, WE SOMETIMES THE MONEY WE THROW AROUND THIS 186,000 LOOKS LIKE CHUNK, CHUNK CHANGE COMPARED TO SOME THINGS THAT WE SPEND MONEY ON.

YOU KNOW, WE GOT 500,000 UP ABOVE FOR, FOR GRANTS AND LOANS FOR THE HARD AND HOMESTEAD ACT THAT WE'RE HANDING OUT.

BUT THIS 186, IT JUST COULD COME BACK TO BITE US AND COST US WAY MORE DEPENDING ON WHAT WE REALLY, WE, WE NEED TO IDENTIFY WHAT OUR REAL NEEDS AND WANTS AND REQUIREMENTS ARE FOR SOME OF THESE THINGS.

SO, NOT AGAINST IT, BUT I'M NOT FOR IT AT THIS POINT.

SO I DON'T KNOW HOW TO VOTE ON THIS OR HOW TO PASS THIS TO THE NEXT STAGE OF BUDGETS WHEN IT'S, THERE'S SO MANY, THERE'S JUST TOO MANY UNKNOWNS WITH IT.

I DON'T KNOW.

UM, YEAH, I FEEL YOU , I'M KINDA RIGHT THERE WITH YOU.

I PUT THE RESPONSIBILITY ON THE EXECUTIVE'S OFFICE.

HE'S THE ONE THAT PROPOSED THIS, BUT THERE'S NO GOOD EXPLANATION.

UH, SUPERVISOR MARY.

YEAH, I GUESS SUPERVISOR KREBS RAISES SOME VERY INTERESTING QUESTIONS.

BEFORE THIS DECISION WAS MADE, WAS THERE ANY KIND OF AN IMPACT STUDY DONE AS TO WHAT DEPARTMENTS WITHIN THE COUNTY ARE GOING TO NEED SUPER PAC OR WHAT, WHAT THINGS ARE GOING TO BE NOT DONE IN THE FUTURE THAT PERHAPS WE WOULD LIKE TO HAVE DONE? OR IF WE'RE GONNA HAVE THEM DONE, HOW MUCH IS IT GONNA COST AND WHAT ARE THE OPTIONS TO GET THOSE PROJECTS DONE? OR THAT INFORMATION, HAS THIS BEEN DONE OR HAS THIS JUST BEEN A QUICK DECISION ABOUT, YOU KNOW, LET'S GET RID OF SEWER PACK.

I MEAN, I WOULD ARGUE THAT THAT WAS DONE, OR AN ATTEMPT AT THAT WAS DONE TO INTERVIEW ALL OF THE DEPARTMENTS IN A VERY THOROUGH REPORT WAS PROVIDED, UM, LAST MONTH'S COMMITTEE AT LAST MONTH'S COMMITTEE MEETING.

AND TO A CERTAIN EXTENT, I THINK THE COUNTY EXECUTIVE SAID A COUPLE OF TIMES ON WEDNESDAY.

NOBODY KNOWS.

I HAVE NO IDEA.

I HAVE A SUPERVISOR.

PRIDE MOORE, PLEASE GO AHEAD.

I WAS JUST THINKING, NOW YOU GUYS ARE GONNA VISIT WITH DOOR COUNTY 'CAUSE THEY, HOW LONG HAS IT BEEN SINCE THEY USED SEWER PACK? SINCE THEY QUIT THAT 12 YEARS.

12 YEARS.

AND THEY SEEM TO BE DOING PRETTY GOOD.

SO I'M HOPING THAT WE CAN GET SOME, SOME OF THESE QUESTIONS ANSWERED THROUGH THIS MEETING THAT YOU GUYS, YOU'RE GOING TO AT.

WE HOPE SO.

ENOUGH, UH, PUSH TO GET PAST THAT IS GOING TO BE, I THINK THE ULTIMATE QUESTION.

UM, I THINK AT THE CORE OF THIS, UM, IT'S, IT'S VERY UNKNOWN, UM, WHERE, WHERE THE FUTURE LIES WITH THIS, SHOULD WE DO IT? AND I THINK THAT'S KIND OF WHAT'S BOTHERING PEOPLE A LOT.

UM, THE EXECUTIVE, ONE THING THAT HE SAID THAT KIND OF, UH, RANG A BELL WITH ME IS IF WE'RE GONNA FAIL, FAIL FAST, UM, SHOULD WE PROCEED WITH ELIMINATING FUNDING FOR CPAC? UH, I JUST HOPE THAT IT CAN BE RECTIFIED, UH, BEFORE IF IT BECOMES A, A HUGE ISSUE.

I MEAN, BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, CERTAINLY THERE MAY BE OTHER COSTS INVOLVED, UM, FOR PROJECTS THAT NEED TO BE DONE PER STATE STATUTES AND WHATNOT.

AND WE AT THIS POINT JUST DON'T KNOW.

I GUESS MY, MY WHOLE POINT HERE IS IS IS YOU'RE GONNA TRY AND SAY TO THE EXECUTIVE, THE ONLY WAY YOU'RE GONNA IS TO ADD FUNDING BACK, WHICH HE'S ALREADY PROMISED HE WOULD VETO.

UM, SO YOU'D HAVE TO OVERRIDE THAT VETO.

SO, WHICH IS A VERY POWERFUL POSITION THAT THE EXECUTIVE FINDS HIMSELF IN.

AND WHETHER OR NOT THIS COMMITTEE OR THE BOARD AS A WHOLE WOULD HAVE

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UM, SO DO WE CHOOSE TO, I ALWAYS SAY PICK AND CHOOSE YOUR BATTLES, AND THIS MIGHT BE ONE WHERE MIGHT NOT WANNA FIGHT THIS ONE.

UM, AND WE MAY ENTER THE UNKNOWN, AND THAT MIGHT BE A LITTLE BIT TOUGH, BUT I DIDN'T PROPOSE THIS.

NEITHER DID YOU.

SO THAT'LL BE UP TO THE EXECUTIVE.

SO WHERE, HOW, WHERE AND HOW WE GO MOVING FORWARD.

I MEAN, I'M NOT TELLING YOU WHAT YOU CAN'T AMEND OR WHAT YOU CAN'T DO, YOU CERTAINLY CAN DO ANYTHING AND EVERYTHING THAT I CAN DO.

SO FEEL FREE, UM, I'M JUST TRYING TO KIND OF LAY OUT A LITTLE BIT OF THE OUTLINE OF THE SITUATION WE FIND OURSELVES IN.

SO WITH THAT, ANYTHING ELSE ON THIS? YEAH, SUPERVISOR KRES.

I DON'T KNOW WHO I NEED TO ADDRESS THIS TO, BUT IT'S FOR THE EXECUTIVE'S OFFICE.

UH, BASICALLY OTHER DEPARTMENTS LIKE, LET'S TAKE ROADS.

WE KNOW PRETTY MUCH EVERY DOLLAR WE'LL SPEND ON EVERY ROAD FOR THE NEXT 50 YEARS, IS IT, OR WHATEVER THE PLAN IS.

IT'S 2050 PLAN.

SO YEAH, 25, 30 YEARS, WHATEVER, IT'S, IT, IT'D BE NICE TO KIND OF MAKE UP THE SIMILAR PLAN OF OUR, SO WE'RE PACK 2.0 NEEDS AND, AND MAP THAT OUT.

SO IF WE'RE GONNA DO LIDAR EVERY TWO YEARS OR FOUR YEARS OR 10 YEARS, WHATEVER PLAN AMENDMENTS WE'RE GONNA DO, WHATEVER THOSE NEEDS ARE, OBVIOUSLY SPECIAL PROJECTS POP UP, BUT LIKE THE REOCCURRING STUFF, WE NEED TO UNDERSTAND WHAT THAT IS, WHAT THE NEW UNDERSTANDING IS, OR THE NUANCE AND NEEDS MIGHT NOT NOT BE WHAT WE HISTORICALLY HAVE DONE SO WE CAN PLAN AND BUDGET FOR THIS.

BECAUSE RIGHT NOW WITH THIS BUDGET, I FEEL LIKE YES, IT'S DROPPING, DROPPING 186 THIS YEAR, BUT IN TWO YEARS I THINK IT'S GONNA JUST GO BACK UP AS PEOPLE START TO SEE THE EFFECTS, THE EFFECTS OF IT.

SO GETTING THIS A BETTER LONG-TERM PLAN IS JUST WHAT I'M ASKING FOR HERE.

SO, AND YEAH, I WOULD SAY THAT THAT IS BEST ADDRESSED WITH THE EXECUTIVE'S OFFICE AT THIS POINT.

UM, SO ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? YEP.

REQUESTING THAT SEWER PAC 2.0 DISCUSSION.

SUPERVISOR CONRAD, JUST A COMMENT.

YEAH, THANK YOU.

A COMMENT ON THAT TOO.

I I, I APPRECIATE OTHER PEOPLE TOO.

SHARE, SHARE MY CONCERNS WITH THAT, WHICH I DID BRING UP, YOU KNOW, UM, UH, LAST MONTH IS TRULY THE LONG-TERM, UH, EFFECT ON THIS.

WE DON'T KNOW, AND THAT IS A LITTLE UNNERVING.

WILL IT END UP COSTING US MORE? AND THOSE WERE QUESTIONS THAT I ASKED LAST MONTH, AND I DID PUT IN WRITING TOO, WONDERING WHAT, YOU KNOW, THE, UM, PLAN FOR THOSE POTENTIAL SERVICES ARE THAT ARE UPCOMING.

UM, I EVEN, I JUST ASKED MINIMALLY TO EVEN SAY THE NEXT TWO YEARS THAT THIS BUDGET COVERS, UM, THERE ARE A LOT OF, YOU KNOW, UNKNOWNS.

IS THAT A RISK, YOU KNOW, WE'RE WILLING TO TAKE OR NOT? LIKE I SAID, MY KEY STAKEHOLDERS THAT I REACHED OUT TO ARE WILLING TO TAKE THAT RISK, BUT IT IS, UM, IT IS CONCERNING, UM, JUST SHOOTING IN THE DARK AND, YOU KNOW, MY JOB IS RISK MITIGATION, UM, IN MY CAREER.

IT'S A HUGE PART OF MY, OF MY CAREER.

SO THIS IS, UM, IT, IT IS STILL A A LITTLE CONCERNING AND IT, IT WOULD BE NICE TO HAVE TRULY BOTH SIDES OF THE INFORMATION.

THIS IS TRULY NOT AN INFORMED, LIKE I THINK OF AN INFORMED CONSENT.

THE RISKS ARE ALWAYS SHARED IN HEALTHCARE, NOT JUST THE, THE, THE POSITIVES, THE UPFRONT, BUT ALL THE POTENTIAL RISKS EVEN, YOU KNOW, WE EVEN PUT DOWN, UM, DEATH, RIGHT? UM, SO WE DON'T KNOW THE RISKS OF THIS.

SO THIS ISN'T TRULY AN INFORMED, UM, FULLY INFORMED DECISION.

THANK YOU, SUPERVISOR CONRAD.

ANYBODY ELSE WISH TO SPEAK ON? OH, JAMIE, I, I WILL JUST RESPOND THAT I WILL TAKE BACK TO THE COUNTY EXECUTIVE AND THE COUNTY BOARD CHAIR, ESSENTIALLY YOUR FEEDBACK AND WHAT I'M HEARING AS A REQUEST TO AMEND THE STRATEGIC PRIORITIES DOCUMENT FOR THE NEXT TWO YEARS, WHICH USUALLY INFORMS THE BUDGET.

UM, AND IT DOES IN THIS CASE BECAUSE THERE'S A NUMBER OF THOSE ITEMS FUNDED IN THIS BUDGET, LIKE THE HEART AND HOMESTEAD PROGRAM.

UM, BUT WE DID NOT NECESSARILY CONSIDER WHEN WE WERE WRITING THAT DOCUMENT, UM, YOU KNOW, ALL OF THE CONSEQUENCES.

SO I WILL SHARE THAT AND I WILL, UM, MAKE SURE THAT FEEDBACK IS, IS SHARED THAT, THAT THE COMMITTEE IS

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VERY GOOD.

UH, SUPERVISOR KREBS, CAN I ASK THAT SEWER 0.2, 0.2 0.0 NAME STAYS WITH US? LIKE, I KIND OF LIKE IT .