* This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting. [00:00:01] I AM READY. KNOW. WE'RE GOOD. ALL RIGHT. WE'LL BRING THIS WASHINGTON COUNTY PUBLIC WORKS COMMITTEE MEETING TO ORDER. UM, EVERYBODY'S HERE AND THE AFFIDAVIT WAS POSTED AS REQUIRED BY STATE LAW. WE'LL STAND FOR A MOMENT OF SILENCE AND, UH, A PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE. I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS, ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL. OKAY, GOING OVER THE LAST MEETING MINUTES, DOES ANYBODY SEE ANY CORRECTIONS, MODIFICATIONS OR ANYTHING WE HAVE TO MAKE? DID WE, I THOUGHT WE CAME TO TERMS WITH, UH, THE COUNTY ROAD PARKING ON 1 44. IT SAID NO ACTION TAKEN ON THAT IT DIDN'T PASS. SO IF IT DOESN'T PASS, IT'S JUST NO ACTION TAKEN. 'CAUSE I'M READING THAT AS NO ACTION TAKEN, AS IF WE DIDN'T DO ANYTHING WITH IT. ACTUALLY, DID WE, DID WE ACTUALLY TAKE ACTION OR IS THAT THERE WAS NO INTEREST. SO WE, I'M TRYING TO REMEMBER BACK TO HOW IT WORKED. WHAT AGENDA ITEM WAS THAT? THAT WAS FOR THE COUNTY K PARKING. CORRECT. NO ACTION. SO THERE WAS NO ACTION TAKEN. SO, YEAH, I'M TRYING TO REMEMBER BACK. I THOUGHT WE VOTED. PARKING IS STILL, PARKING IS STILL ALLOWED, SO THAT'S WHAT THAT MEANS. NO ACTION TAKEN, NO ACTION TAKEN. SO IT'S STILL REMAINS AS IS RIGHT. STATE AS IT WAS BEFORE, BUT, GOT IT. THAT'S A GOOD POINT. YEP, THAT'S RIGHT. OKAY. SEE NO OTHER, I NEED TO THINK ABOUT THAT, BUT THAT'S RIGHT. THAT'S WHAT IT WAS. SEE NO OTHER QUESTIONS. THEN WE WILL ACCEPT THEM AS NOTE AS POSTED. UH, MOVING ON TO DISCUSSION OR POSSIBLE ACTION ITEMS. ITEM A SHARED RIDE. TAXI, CRFP UPDATE. UH, SCOTT, YOU HAVE THE FLOOR. OKAY. HELLO, HOW YOU DOING? I'M DOING GREAT. HOW ARE YOU? UH, GOOD. OKAY. SO THIS IS IN REGARDS TO THE SHARED RIDE TAXI PROVIDER UPDATE. UH, SO THE SHARED RIDE TAXI, THE WASHINGTON COUNTY SHARED RIDE TAXI IS PROVIDED BY A THIRD PARTY, UH, CONTRACTOR. 2025 WAS THE LAST YEAR OF THE CURRENT CONTRACT. SO A NEW RFP WAS DONE FOR THE NEXT CONTRACT CYCLE. UH, THIS PROCUREMENT CYCLE WAS MANAGED IN COORDINATION WITH, UH, WSDOT, THE WISCONSIN DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION. THEY NOW OVERSEE TRANSIT CONTRACTING AS PART OF THE COUNTY'S DESIGNATION AS A SUB-RECIPIENT OF FTA SECTION 53 11. UH, WASHINGTON COUNTY RECEIVED FOUR PROPOSALS IN THIS RFP PROCESS. THE PROPOSALS WERE SCORED BY EVALUATION COMMITTEE USING A TECHNICAL AND PRICE SCORING MATRIX PROVIDED BY WIZ DOT, THAT ASSESS PROFESSIONAL COMPETENCE, CAPACITY AND EXPERIENCE. UH, THAT IS, UH, INCLUDED IN ATTACHMENT A AND B. THE, UH, SCORING CRITERIA AS WELL AS THE, THE MATRIX TEMPLATE USED, UH, PROVIDED BY WIZ DOT. THE SUCCESSFUL AND UNSUCCESSFUL OFFERS WERE OFFICIALLY NOTIFIED ON SEPTEMBER 17TH, 2025, AND THE PERIOD TO PROTEST OR DISPUTE THE DECISION ENDED ON OCTOBER 1ST OF 25. SO, FOR THE PROCUREMENT PROCESS, WE'D LIKE TO THANK, UH, ALL THE STAFF INVOLVED AND THE COMPLEX RFP PROCESS. THIS INCLUDES TAMMY ANDERSON, DIRECTOR OF AGING AND DISABILITY RESOURCE CENTER, ROY HARTMAN, BUYER FOR WASHINGTON COUNTY AND STAFF FROM TRANSIT AND THE HIGHWAY DEPARTMENT. SO BEGINNING JANUARY 1ST, 2026, THE SERVICE WILL BE PROVIDED BY RIGHT WAY TRANSPORTATION GROUP, ALSO KNOWN AS GO RIGHT WAY. THEY SUBMITTED A STRONG PROPOSAL THAT HIGHLIGHTED THEIR MANY STRENGTHS IN PROVIDING PUBLIC TRANSPORTATION. WE LOOK FORWARD TO BUILDING A STRONG PARTNERSHIP FOCUSED ON OPERATIONAL EXCELLENCE AND CONTINUED HIGH QUALITY SERVICE FOR WASHINGTON COUNTY. THE CONTRACT WITH SPECIALIZED TRANSPORT SERVICES, ALSO KNOWN AS STS, WE'LL END ON DECEMBER 31ST. 2025. SDS HAS PROVIDED THE SHARED RIDE TAXI SERVICE FOR NEARLY 20 YEARS FOR THE COUNTY. WE APPRECIATE THEIR RELIABLE SERVICE AND THE ROLE THEY'VE PLAYED IN SUPPORTING PUBLIC TRANSPORTATION ACROSS THE COUNTY. WE'RE WORKING CLOSELY WITH BOTH THE CURRENT AND INCOMING PROVIDER FOR A SMOOTH AND SEAMLESS TRANSITION. UH, WE WILL BE POSTING, UH, AN UPDATE ON THE WEBSITE AS WELL AS FLYERS IN THE TAXI, UH, INCLUDED, UH, FLYERS ON THE TAXI THERE, THE ATTACHMENTS INCLUDED WERE, AS I MENTIONED, THE WIZ DOT TEMPLATE FOR THE SCORING CRITERIA AND THE SCORING MATRIX, AS WELL AS THE PROCUREMENT TIMELINE THAT WAS USED. ALSO, HERE IS, UH, MEMBERS [00:05:01] OF, UH, GO RIGHT WAY. IF YOU'D LIKE TO, UH, ASK ANY QUESTIONS OR FOR THEM TO INTRODUCE THEMSELVES, FEEL FREE. THANK YOU. YEAH, NOPE. THANKS. GOOD AFTERNOON, EVERYONE. GOOD AFTERNOON. THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR PUTTING THE RESIDENTS, UH, THE TRUST, THE RESIDENTS OF WASHINGTON COUNTY INTO OUR HANDS TO TRANSPORTING THEM. MY NAME'S RON BASS, UH, CHAIRMAN OF, UH, RIGHTWAY AND ONE OF THE OWNERS. UH, WE WERE FOUNDED IN 1957 BY MY FOLKS, UH, AND WE'RE BASED IN GERMANTOWN IS ONE OF OUR LOCATIONS. UH, HERE TODAY IS STEVE VIC, WHO'S, UH, CHIEF, CHIEF OPERATING OFFICER OF, UH, RIGHT WAY. AND, UH, TRISTAN GARISH, WHO IS THE, UH, UH, MANAGER FOR OUR GOAL RIDE GOAL, OUR, OUR TAXI RIDE, UH, OPERATION. UH, WE REALLY THANK YOU VERY MUCH. UH, WE LOOK FORWARD TO PROVIDING SAFE, UH, AFFORDABLE AND, UM, CORRECT SERVICE FOR YOUR RESIDENTS. I WILL BE ABLE TO TAKE ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS, BUT I WILL, I ALWAYS TRY TO HIRE SMARTER GUYS THAN I AM , IF YOU DON'T WHAT I BE GUYS, AND HE COULD, UH, THESE GENTLEMEN COULD ASK ANY QUESTIONS OR ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE TO, AND I LOOK FORWARD TO WORKING WITH WASHINGTON COUNTY AND THE STAFF. MY QUESTIONS ARE MORE AND HOW DOES THAT TRANSITION WORK? DO THEY JUST SEND THE PEOPLE THERE, TAKE THE BUSES AND, AND GO? I'M GOOD. I'LL, I'LL, I'LL, I'LL, I'LL, I'LL TAKE THAT ONE. UH, IN THE, IN THE SIMPLEST FORMS, YES, WE'LL BE WORKING THROUGH THAT PROCESS WITH THEM. UH, AS CHARLIE POINTED OUT, WE'VE HAD 20 YEARS WITH STS. SO YES, WE'LL BE WORKING CLOSELY WITH GO RIGHTAWAY AND STS TO MAKE THAT AS SMOOTH AS A TRANSITION AS POSSIBLE BECAUSE IT DOES HAPPEN BETWEEN DECEMBER 31ST AND JANUARY 1ST. WE'RE OFF ON JANUARY 1ST, NO SERVICE. SO WE'LL WORK WITH THEM TO MAKE SURE THERE'S A NICE SEAMLESS TRANSITION. WE HAVE A, A FEW SPARE VEHICLES THAT WE MAYBE CAN GET OVER TO THEM EARLIER THAT THEY CAN BE UTILIZED THAT FIRST MORNING WHEN WE'RE TRANSFERRING THE REST OF THE VEHICLES OVER. SO, UH, THE GOOD THING IS THAT THE CURRENT VEHICLES ARE STORED OFF ON 33 NEAR AURORA ROAD RIGHT NOW. UH, GO RIGHT AWAY IS MOST LIKELY GONNA KEEP THEM RIGHT IN WEST BEND NEAR THE HIGHWAY SHOP. SO IT'S NOT THAT LONG OF A, A RIDE OR TRANSITION. SO, SOUNDS GOOD. ANY, GO AHEAD. YOU KNOW, WE, WE TALKED ABOUT THE, THE VEHICLE, BUT AS FAR AS THE DRIVERS AND THE DRIVERS, THEY IN THE TRANSITION, WE WILL THEN JUST, HOW DOES THAT YEAH, SURE. UM, IN THE, IN THE HIGHEST LEVELS, UM, OBVIOUSLY IT'S, IT'S, UH, EMPLOYMENT AND THAT'S ONE OF THE THINGS THAT ARE, IS LISTED ON THAT, THAT HANDOUT THAT CHARLIE'S GONNA PUT IN THE, UH, IN A TAXI SERVICE RIGHT NOW, AS YOU CAN IMAGINE WITH THEIR COMPANY THEN ENDING SERVICE ON DECEMBER 31ST, THEIR DRIVERS ARE PROBABLY LOOKING FOR OTHER WORK. SOME OF THEM HAVE MAYBE PROCURED ALREADY EMPLOYMENT WITH GO RIGHT WAY. UH, OTHERS ARE NOT. SO, UH, WE'RE LOOKING FOR THE, FOR THAT TRANSITION TO BE SMOOTH, BUT THERE'S GONNA BE SOME BUMPS IN THE ROAD IN THE NEXT TWO MONTHS, AS YOU CAN IMAGINE. SO WE'RE WORKING WITH OUR CURRENT PROVIDER, CHARLIE'S WORKING WITH, WITH, WITH THEM, AND I KNOW HE IS, HAD A COUPLE CONVERSATIONS WITH WHAT CAN WE DO TO MAKE THAT AS SMOOTH AS POSSIBLE OVER THE NEXT TWO MONTHS TO, TO NOT HAVE RIDERS, UH, NOT HAVE PEOPLE THAT ARE DENIED RIDES. BUT, UH, I, I THINK IT WILL PROBABLY HAPPEN WITHIN THE NEXT TWO MONTHS THAT, UH, WE'RE GONNA DO OUR BEST TO GET THOSE PEOPLE TO THE IMPORTANT APPOINTMENTS THAT THEY NEED. AND, UH, AND IF THEY CAN'T GET THOUGH, MAYBE THEY'LL HAVE TO CHOOSE A DIFFERENT TIME OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT TO GET THERE. BUT WE'LL DO OUR BEST AND THEN IT'LL GO RIGHT WAY'S COMMITTED TO YEAH, TO THAT AS WELL, TO MAKE SURE WHATEVER WE CAN DO TO, TO WORK WITH STS TO MAKE SURE THAT OUR, WE CAN GET AS MANY RIDES DONE AS POSSIBLE IS IMPORTANT. JUST A QUICK, SO IS RIGHT WAY REACHING OUT TO THE CURRENT DRIVERS THEN IN THE TRANSITION OR, YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN? IT'S JUST, THAT'S AN EMPLOYMENT ISSUE. I'M NOT SURE WE WANNA TALK ABOUT YEAH. THAT LEVEL OF DETAIL. ANY UPDATE. UM, I, I'M SURE THERE'S, THERE'S WAYS THAT THERE, UM, WORKING WITH, WITH THOSE DRIVERS. UM, UM, THEY HAVE A, A POOL OF DRIVERS THEMSELVES I'M SURE THAT THEY'RE WORKING ON AND LOOKING AT AT THAT TOO. SO I THINK THEY'RE MOST LIKELY GONNA BE ADVERTISING IF THEY CAN'T FIND ENOUGH DRIVERS. OKAY. YEAH. YEAH, I SOUNDS GOOD. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? YEAH. UM, I KNOW WE CAN ANSWER THIS, BUT WHAT OTHER COUNTIES, UH, DO YOU WORK WITH OR DO YOU HAVE OTHER, YOU KNOW, SHARED RIDE CONTRACTS WITH, UH, YOU KNOW, THAT YOU COULD SHARE WITH US AS PART OF YOUR YES. SO OPERATING PORTFOLIO? THANKS. YEP. SO WE CURRENTLY SERVICE THOSE ZAKI COUNTY SHARED RIDE SERVICE, UM, AND SIMILAR STS WAS THE INCUMBENT AND WE TOOK OVER THAT SERVICE. WE RETAINED THE MAJORITY OF THE DRIVERS DISPATCH STAFF. IT'S ALWAYS OUR INTENTION WITH ANY OF THESE SERVICES. WE WANNA RETAIN EVERYBODY THAT WANTS TO WORK THERE AND, AND CONTINUE TO SUPPORT THE COUNTY. UM, MARINETTE IS ANOTHER ONE THAT WE OPERATE UP NORTH AND CURRENTLY WE'RE OPERATING WEST BEND, UH, COUNTY SHARED RIDE. AND THEN WE OPERATED OUR OWN SHARED RIDE SERVICE FOR MANY YEARS, UM, FROM SHEBOYGAN DOWN, UH, TO [00:10:01] MILWAUKEE AND ALSO TO, UH, CHICAGO TO THE AIRPORT. SO WE HAVE LOTS OF EXPERIENCE IN, IN SHARED RIDE SERVICES. INTERESTING. CHAIRMAN SCH LIFE, YOU MENTIONED DISPATCH AND I KNOW WE'VE TOURED THE DISPATCH CENTER IN THE PAST. UM, THAT'LL BE THE PART THAT WE WORRY ABOUT THE SEAMLESS TRANSITION MOST, I THINK. SO YOU HAVE A PLAN IN PLACE? YEAH, WE HAVE A, A GREAT TEAM, UH, SIMILAR TO WHEN WE, UH, TOOK OVER THOSE AKI SHARED RIDE SERVICE, WE DIDN'T WANT THERE TO BE ANY HICCUPS, SO WE'LL WORK WITH THE COUNTY AND THE INCUMBENT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE GET THE SOFTWARE TRANSFERRED OVER. LUCKILY WE HAVE SOME EXPERIENCE ALREADY WITH THE ECO LANE, THE SOFTWARE, UM, OUR COUNTY GROUP HAS EXPERIENCE WITH IT, SO IT SHOULD BE RELATIVELY SEAMLESS THERE. BUT, YOU KNOW, LIKE ANYTHING, THERE WILL BE A COUPLE, COUPLE LITTLE THINGS THAT PROBABLY NEED TO GET, YOU KNOW, CLEANED UP ALONG THE WAY. UM, BUT YEAH, WE'RE GONNA TRY TO DO AS MUCH AS WE CAN AHEAD OF TIME. UM, YOU KNOW, WE ALREADY HAVE A POSTING FOR THE POSITION, SO OBVIOUSLY THERE ARE WAYS FOR THE DRIVERS AND DISPATCH STAFF TO REACH OUT TO US. WE'LL PROBABLY LOOK TO HOLD A FEW SESSIONS WHERE, YOU KNOW, JUST LIKE AN OPEN HOUSE OF SORT WHERE DRIVERS CAN COME, ASK US QUESTIONS, THOSE TYPES OF THINGS. AND WE'LL WORK WITH OUR FLEET FACILITY TEAM, UH, TO DO THE VEHICLE TRANSFER, MAKE SURE ALL THE TECHNOLOGY'S TRANSFERRED AND EVERYTHING ELSE. SO WE'LL TRY TO MAKE IT AS SEAMLESS AS POSSIBLE. UM, BUT YES, DISPATCH STAFF ALSO, WE HAVE THAT, UM, YOU KNOW, BEAUTIFUL NEW FACILITY IN WEST BEND. UH, WE'RE ALREADY DOING SOME MODIFICATIONS TO ALLOW FOR THIS DISPATCH TEAM TO WORK WELL TOGETHER. THANK YOU. YEP. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? HOW LONG HAVE YOU BEEN SERVICING OZAKI COUNTY? UH, WHEN DID THAT CONTRACT START? 23 WAS WHEN THAT CONTRACT STARTED. YEP. OKAY. YEP. AND, AND IT'S BEEN GOING VERY WELL. UM, I'VE WORKED WITH GO WORKED WITH YOUR COMPANY. I WORK AT THE MILWAUKEE VA HOSPITAL YEP. IN THE DOMICILIARY. AND WE DO OUTINGS A LOT WITH THE VETERANS THAT ARE IN INPATIENT TREATMENT. A LOT TO PIKE LAKE RIGHT HERE IN WASHINGTON COUNTY. YEAH. UM, WE'VE GONE TO LAMBEAU FIELD, UM, WE'VE GONE TO, UM, DOWN TO CHICAGO ONCE, UM, BUT TO PIKE LAKE, WE DO THAT AT LEAST FOUR TIMES A YEAR. AND YOU ALL HAVE DONE A TREMENDOUS JOB. UM, EVEN LAST MINUTE THINGS WHERE WE HAD VETERANS, EXTRA VETERANS THAT WERE IN WHEELCHAIRS, BEING ABLE TO PROVIDE, TAKING OUT SEATS ON YOUR LARGE BUSES, UM, TAKING TWO TO THREE BUS LOADS OF VETERANS OUT AND BACK, UM, DURING RUSH HOUR ON THE WAY BACK. AND, UM, SO I'VE WORKED WITH YOU A LOT AND, UM, OVER THE LAST, I WANNA SAY SIX, SEVEN YEARS NOW, AND, UM, YOU ALL HAVE DONE A GREAT JOB, SO I'M HAPPY THAT YOU HAVE THIS CONTRACT. I LOOK FORWARD TO WORKING WITH YOU. YEAH, WE'RE EXCITED TO CONTINUE AND SERVICE THE COUNTY. WE HAVE OBVIOUSLY SCHOOL DISTRICTS IN THE COUNTY AND, AND OTHER SERVICES LIKE OUR CHARTER BUS SERVICES AND SUCH. SO YEAH, WE'RE EXCITED TO CONTINUE AND EXPAND. THANK YOU. AWESOME. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? OKAY, SCOTT, DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING ELSE TO ADD ABOUT THIS? I DO NOT. OKAY. SEEING, NO, NO MORE DISCUSSION ITEMS HERE. WE'LL GO TO HIGHWAY QUARTERLY REPORT. THANK YOU. YEAH, THANK YOU GUYS. I DON'T KNOW IF JOSH OR SCOTT ARE GONNA, JOSH, GOOD AFTERNOON. SEE IF WE CAN GET THE TECHNOLOGY HERE. HOOKED UP. THE RODEO WENT WELL TODAY. YEAH, THERE'S A LOT OF, THERE'S A LOT OF FUN. THERE'S A LOT OF GOOD INFORMATION EXCHANGE, SO, OKAY. UM, YEAH, SO WE HAD OZAKI COUNTY HIGHWAY DEPARTMENT COME TO OUR FACILITY. BOB HELPED OUT WITH THE ROAD COURSE TODAY TOO, SO I HAD TO LEAVE AND COME OVER HERE RIGHT BEFORE THEY WERE ANNOUNCING THE WINNERS. SO ON THE EDGE OF MY SEAT, I MIGHT GET A TEXT MESSAGE HERE SHORTLY. , UH, FROM SOME OF THE GUYS, SO, SOUNDS GOOD. HAD SOME, SOME SERIOUS BRAGGING RIGHTS UP IN THE AIR RIGHT NOW, SO I'M ANXIOUS TO HEAR. GOTCHA. WHAT THE RESULTS ARE. UM, AS FAR AS THE, UH, THE, THE QUARTERLY UPDATE HERE, UH, FIRST ONE BEING THE 25TH, 2050 TRANSPORTATION NETWORK SUSTAINABILITY PLAN. UM, WE DID HAVE THAT ONE UPDATED FOR 2050, UH, FOR A FEW YEARS NOW FOR THE COUNTY. UM, AND THEN WE'VE BEEN WORKING ON CHIPPING AWAY AT THE LOCAL PLANS. NOW THAT IS KIND OF PUT ON THE BACK BURNER AS WE'RE UPDATING THE COUNTY'S PLAN TO 2060, WHICH IS ANOTHER AGENDA I'LL BE TALKING ABOUT HERE IN JUST, JUST A MINUTE. OKAY. SO THAT'S WHERE THAT ONE SITS AT THE MOMENT. UH, NEXT ONE BEING THE INTERSECTION SAFETY ANALYSIS. AS, AS THIS COMMITTEE RECALLS BACK IN JULY OF 2024, UM, THAT'S WHEN THE COUNTY PLAN WAS APPROVED BY PUBLIC WORKS COMMITTEE HERE FOR OUR INTERSECTION PLAN. AND NOW THE NEXT STEP THERE, THAT SUB GOAL, UH, WORKING WITH THE LOCALS. UH, SO WE HAVE TWO OF THOSE IN THE WORKS RIGHT NOW. UH, JUST ON TUESDAY NIGHT, I PRESENTED THE FIRST LOCAL PLAN TO THE TOWN OF POLK. UM, SO THAT ONE WAS, THEY REALLY APPRECIATED THAT. AND OF COURSE, AS WE DO THESE LOCAL PLANS BEING VERY CLEAR THAT, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE NOT OBLIGATED TO TAKE ANY ACTION THAT WE SUGGEST RIGHT THROUGH THE PLANS. IT'S JUST INFORMATIONAL. [00:15:01] MM-HMM . UM, SOME THINGS THAT, YOU KNOW, TRENDS THAT WE SEE AND, AND GO FROM THERE. UH, SAME THING WITH THE ROADWAY PLAN, UH, WHICH IS THE THIRD INITIATIVE THERE. UH, THIS COMMITTEE APPROVED THE COUNTY'S FIRST EDITION OF THE ROAD PLAN, UH, ROAD SAFETY PLAN IN AUGUST OF 2024. SO AS WE DO THESE LOCAL PLANS NOW, UM, IT'S A COMBINED DOCUMENT WITH INTERSECTION AND ROADWAY. SO FIRST ONE WAS TOWN OF POLK ON TUESDAY, UM, AND THEN THE NEXT ONE IS TOWN OF JACKSON. SO BOB WILL BE SEEING THAT IN THE NEAR FUTURE AS WELL. SO WE'RE WORKING ON THAT ONE AT THE MOMENT. OKAY. SO WORKING OUR WAY DOWN THE LIST, SO THAT'S GOOD. ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? ALL RIGHT. SCENE, NONE. WE CAN THEN MOVE ON TO THE 2060 PLAN. ALRIGHT. THIS WORKS THE WAY IT SHOULD. I, THERE WE GO. WELL, THERE IS A, AS THE SCREEN TURNS ON, YOU GET A SNEAK PEEK AT A VERY BIG COMPLEX, UH, WE CALL IT THE MASTER SPREADSHEET OF WHICH OUR 20 50, 20 60 PLAN IS, IS BUILT UPON. I'M NOT GONNA GO INTO DETAIL ON THIS THING. UM, BUT THAT'S JUST KIND OF A VISUAL ON, ON HOW WE, HOW WE MAP THINGS OUT IN THE MILEAGE IN THE YEAR TO YEAR. UH, WE TRACK MAINTENANCE GOING BACK, UM, MANY YEARS TO THE EARLIEST RECORDS WE COULD FIND IN THE NINETIES WHEN WE DO CRACK FILLING, WHEN WE DO MASTIC, WHEN WE DO REPAVING, WHEN WE DO RECONSTRUCTION, WE GOT OUR CIP WINDOW HERE AND THEN PROJECTING OUT. OUR GOAL IS A 25 YEAR LIFESPAN ON OUR PAVEMENTS. UM, SO THAT'S REALLY KIND OF THE, THE, THE RULE OF THUMB AS WE PROJECT OUT IS 25 YEARS. UH, SO I WANT JUST BRING YOUR ATTENTION TO THAT MAP. I PUT A, A COPY ON YOUR, YOUR DESK AND THEN I'LL BRING IT UP IN THE PACKET AS WELL. SO THERE WERE FOUR MAPS IN YOUR PACKET, AND THE FIRST ONE SHOWS YEARS 2026 TO 2060. SO THIS IS ALL VERY STILL VERY PRELIMINARY INFORMATION HERE, VERY MUCH SUBJECT TO CH SUBJECT TO CHANGE. SO YOU'LL SEE SOME ROADWAYS THAT ARE HIGHLIGHTED WITH DIFFERENT COLORS AND, UM, SYMBOLOGY, SOLID LINE VERSUS DASHED. UM, THAT IS STRAIGHT FROM OUR, OUR APPROVED CURRENT CIP PLAN. UM, SO IF IT'S DASHED, THAT IS A RECONSTRUCTION PROJECT. SOLID COLORED LINE THERE IS, IS REPAVING AND THEN IT'S COLOR CODED BY YEAR. SO IF IT WAS ALREADY APPROVED IN THE CIP, WE DID NOT ADD THAT YEAR LABEL TO THAT ROADWAY. YOU STILL DO SEE SOME NUMBERS ON SOME OF THOSE ROADWAYS, AND THAT IS ESSENTIALLY ADDING 25 YEARS ONTO THAT PROJECT. SO THAT'S HOW FAR, I MEAN IT IS, IT'S, IT'S QUITE OUT, IT'S A GUESSING GAME. LOOKING OUT THAT FAR. SURE. SO MANY FACTORS CAN, CAN CHANGE THAT. UM, BUT THAT'S THE WAY THAT WE'RE LOOKING OUT. SO IF JUST FOR INSTANCE, IF YOU LOOK AT HIGHWAY H WEST, UH, GOING FROM SCU, YOU'LL SEE THAT RED SOLID LINE THERE AND THEN YOU SEE 2055. AND THEN IF YOU GO DOWN, YOU LOOK AT 2028 IS THAT SOLID RED LINE. SO THAT RIGHT NOW THAT SITS IN FOR A, A REPAVE IN 2028 AND THEN ROUGHLY 2020 OR 2055. IT'S NOT A PERFECT 25 YEAR MATCH. WE DO MAKE SOME ADJUSTMENTS. WE'RE TRYING TO BALANCE OUT OUR MILEAGE AS WE GET OUT TO THEM DISTANT YEARS. UM, NOT OVERLOADING ONE YEAR WITH 20 MILES AND THE YEARS AROUND IT WITH ONE OR TWO. MM-HMM . WE'RE TRYING TO SPREAD THAT OUT IN THE MOST COMMON SENSE APPROACH WE CAN DO WITH THE INFORMATION WE HAVE TODAY. SO THAT'S WHY, THAT'S KIND OF HOW THIS WAS BUILT OUT. UM, AND THEN AT THIS STAGE, I JUST WANTED TO PUT TOGETHER ON A MAP JUST TO KIND OF VISUALIZE HOW THINGS SIT RIGHT NOW AS FAR AS WE PLAN TO 2060. UM, WE'RE GONNA TAKE THIS INFORMATION AND THEN THE OTHER MAPS THAT ARE IN THE PACKET, KIND OF JUST BOIL THIS DOWN. UM, I JUST PRINTED OUT THIS ONE MAP WITH THE HARD COPIES, BUT THE SUBSEQUENT MAPS IN THE PACKET, LOOK AT KIND OF 10 YEAR WINDOWS JUST TAKING THE SAME INFORMATION AND BREAKING IT DOWN SO YOU CAN KIND OF SEE AND DIGEST IT A LITTLE BIT EASIER. UH, BUT LIKE I SAID, IT'S VERY MUCH SUBJECT TO CHANGE. IN FACT, UM, IF YOU LOOK AT HIGHWAY Q, UH, UH, GOING FROM 1 64 TO THE WEST AROUND LAKE FIVE RIGHT NOW, THAT IS KIND OF A KEY BOTTOM PART OF THE MIDDLE. YEAH. DOWN VERY AT THE, AT THE VERY BOTTOM OF THE MAP THERE. YEP. ON HIGHWAY QI CAN ZOOM IN ON THAT ONE JUST FOR A VISUAL. YOU'LL SEE THAT THAT ONE HAS A DASHED ORANGE LINE THAT IS ACTUALLY 2031, UH, RECONSTRUCTION CURRENTLY IN OUR CIP, UH, AS WE ARE, WE'RE, WE'RE LOOKING AT THAT PARTICULAR PROJECT RIGHT NOW. UM, SCOTT HAS BEEN HAVING SOME CONVERSATIONS WITH WAUKESHA COUNTY [00:20:01] ON WHAT THAT PROJECT'S REALLY GONNA ENTAIL, WHETHER THAT'S GONNA BE A FULL RECONSTRUCTION, UM, MOST LIKELY LOOKING MORE OF LIKE A, LIKE A REPAVE WITH SPOT IMPROVEMENTS. SO AS WE PROJECT THAT AND, AND FIGURE THAT ONE INTO OUR PLAN, GOING FROM RECONSTRUCTION, WHICH WE FIGURE AT OVER $3 MILLION PER MILE VERSUS MORE OF A RESURFACING AT A LITTLE OVER HALF A MILLION DOLLARS PER MILE PLUS SOME SPOT IMPROVEMENTS, THAT IS GONNA BE A BIG DOMINO TO FIGURE OUT FIRST AND SOLIDIFY THAT. 'CAUSE THAT ONE'S PRETTY FAR UP IN OUR 2060 PROJECTIONS. SURE. ON WHERE WE CAN GO FROM THERE. OBVIOUSLY YOU, YOU MAKE ONE CHANGE WITH YOUR MILEAGE AND ALL THAT, THERE'S A RIPPLE EFFECT. SO WE'RE TRYING TO GET A FEW THINGS FIRMED UP. OBVIOUSLY, UM, A LOT OF COMMUNICATION COORDINATION'S GONNA HAVE TO HAPPEN WITH WAUKESHA COUNTY, UH, TOWN OF LISBON, UH, VILLAGE OF RIDGEFIELD AND ALL THAT FOR THAT PARTICULAR PROJECT. SO THAT'S KIND OF A BIG ONE THAT'S KINDA LOOMING AT THE FRONT END OF THE PLAN. WE HOPE TO HAVE THAT, WE'VE BEEN PLAYING SOME PHONE TAG, UM, BUT WE'RE GONNA HAVE THAT CONVERSATION VERY SOON WITH WAUKESHA COUNTY AND THEN HAVE THAT LITTLE BIT MORE SOLIDIFIED BEFORE WE FINALIZE OUR, OUR FULL PROJECTION. SO THAT IS WHERE IT SITS TODAY. UM, ANY QUESTIONS ON, ON ANYTHING? ACTUALLY, I HAVE TWO QUESTIONS. SURE. UM, THE FIRST ONE IS WHEN I FIRST GOT ON, UM, THE COUNTY BOARD, WE HAD 932 LANE MILES. RIGHT. WHERE COUNTY ROAD IF, AND THAT'S JUST A NUMBER FOR WHATEVER REASON STUCK IN MY HEAD. THAT WAS PROBABLY THE OVERALL LANE MILES THAT OUR DEPARTMENT COVERS BETWEEN THE COUNTY AND STATE HIGHWAYS. OH, IT COVERS BOTH. YEP. SO WE, FOR SOME REASON 932 IS STUCK IN MY HEAD. IS THAT I KNOW WE'VE BEEN SWAPPING ROADS. IS THAT STILL FAIRLY ACCURATE OR HAVE WE ADDED MILES OR WE'VE, IT'S KIND OF WAS WE MIGHT BE A LITTLE BIT LOWER THAN WHAT IT USED TO BE. 'CAUSE MORE, I THINK MORE MILES WENT TO SOME OF THE LOCAL MUNICIPALITIES THROUGH JURISDICTIONAL TRANSFERS MM-HMM . BUT WE HAVE GAINED SOME ROADS AS WELL. SURE. I MEAN, IF YOU LOOK AT, WE TOOK ON HIGHWAY 83, WHICH IS NOW RR RIGHT. YOU KNOW, SO THAT WAS A BIG CHUNK THAT WE DID TAKE ON. YEP. WE LOST HIGHWAY F. THERE'S, THERE'S A, A WHOLE SERIES OF 'EM THAT WE'VE RELINQUISHED TO THE LOCAL GOVERNMENTS. SURE. UM, OVERALL I'M, I'D SAY WE'RE STILL PRETTY CLOSE. I WOULD THINK OVER 900 TOTAL LANE MILES WHEN OUR DEPARTMENT DOES OUR MAINTENANCE AND, AND ALL LIKE THE PLOW COVERAGE AND ALL THE TIMING OF THAT. WE DO A LOT OF OUR CALCULATIONS IN LANE MILES WHEN WE'RE ACTUALLY PHYSICALLY COVERING ONE LANE AT A TIME. SURE. WHEN WE DO OUR, OUR PROJECTIONS AND CALCULATIONS FOR RESURFACING AND REPAVING RECONSTRUCTION, THEN WE'RE TALKING CENTER LINE MILES. SO THAT'S, YOU KNOW, OBVIOUSLY SOME ARE MULTI-LANE YEP. ROADWAYS. SO ALL OF THAT IS DONE A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENTLY DEPENDING ON THE SITUATION. OKAY. AND THEN THE OTHER QUESTION MM-HMM . SO IT'S BEEN QUITE A FEW YEARS SINCE WE'VE BEEN ON THIS 2050 CYCLE MM-HMM . HOW ACCURATE WOULD YOU SAY IT IS? I MEAN OBVIOUSLY WE'RE, WE'RE TRYING TO PREDICT COST, RIGHT? YEAH. AND HOW MUCH, UH, CASH FLOW, RIGHT? YEP. HAS IT BEEN FAIRLY ACCURATE? HAS THIS REALLY BEEN HELPFUL? IT SEEMS TO ME LIKE IT WOULD BE TREMENDOUSLY BECAUSE YOU CAN PROJECT WHAT KIND OF MONEY OR FUNDING YOU NEED FROM YEAR TO YEAR, BUT YES, IT'S, IT'S OBVIOUSLY GONNA BE MORE RELIABLE IN THOSE EARLY YEARS WHEN LESS FA HAVE TIME TO COME INTO PLAY MM-HMM . BUT WHEN WE LOOK AT OUR, OUR DOLLAR AMOUNTS, WHEN WE MADE THAT INITIAL PROJECTION BACK IN 2019 FOR HOW MUCH REPAVING AND RECONSTRUCTION WAS GONNA COST PER MILE VERSUS WHAT THEY ARE NOW, THEY CHANGED ASTRONOMICALLY BEYOND WHAT WE EVER WOULD'VE FIGURED. WELL, I MEAN, WE WERE TALKING INFLATION IN FACT THEN WAS MORE CLOSER TO $250,000 A MILE FOR A REPAVING. NOW IT'S OVER A HALF A MILLION. YEAH. AND WE DID NOT SEE THAT KIND OF JUMP COMING. SO THAT'S THE KIND OF STUFF, YOU KNOW, YOU KNOW, EVEN CONSTRUCTION RECONSTRUCTION, MILEAGE, I THINK IT WAS ABOUT ONE AND A HALF MILLION A MILE, NOW IT'S OVER 3 MILLION A MILE. THAT WAS A, THAT'S, WE DID NOT SEE ALL OF THAT. I MEAN, COVID OF COURSE, AND ALL THESE OTHER THINGS COME INTO PLAY. UM, OUR FUNDING SOURCES HAVE ALSO CHANGED. THERE'S MORE MONEY COMING THROUGH THE L RIPP, THE LOCAL ROAD IMPROVEMENT PROGRAM MM-HMM . AND SOME OF THE OTHER THINGS. SO WE'RE TRYING TO CAPTURE ALL OF THAT NOW 'CAUSE TO HELP OFFSET ALL, EVEN THE STUFF THAT THE MONEY THAT WOULD BE GOING OUT VERSUS THE MONEY SOURCES THAT ARE COMING IN HAVE CHANGED QUITE A BIT IN THOSE YEARS. YEAH. BUT IT, IT'S, IT'S DEFINITELY IS A GOOD TOOL TO HAVE. SURE. UM, SO YOUR PROJECT PREDICTIONS OF WHAT YOU WERE THINKING ABOUT REPAVING, AT WHAT YEARS HAS IT BEEN FAIRLY CLOSE TO THAT? I KNOW YOU'VE HAD TO JUGGLE SOME STUFF AROUND FOR OTHER REASONS TOO. YEAH, OVERALL I WOULD SAY IT'S BEEN PRETTY SOLID. MM-HMM . UM, BUT THAT INFORMATION THAT WAS IN THAT INITIAL PLAN, JUST LOOKING AT THE ROADS THAT WERE NOT BUILT OUT TO COUNTY STANDARDS THAT STILL NEED TO BE RECONSTRUCTION AND, AND AND WIDENED. SURE. THAT IS STILL ALL INTO PLAY. OKAY. SO THAT STILL IS, IS PART OF THIS MOVING FORWARD. YEP. IT'S JUST THAT SOME OF THE, MAYBE EVEN SOME OF THE BIGGER PROJECT, IF IT WAS A THREE MILE PROJECT LIKE HIGHWAY M BECAUSE OF CERTAIN FACTORS THAT HAD TO GET TRIMMED DOWN AND WE'RE HAMMERING OUT [00:25:01] ONE MILE THIS YEAR, TWO MILES THE NEXT YEAR. RIGHT. IT'S JUST, JUST DIVVIED UP A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENTLY NOW. UNFORESEEN CONDITIONS THAT YOU HAVE TO DEAL WITH NEVER ENDS. RIGHT. YEP. NEVER ENDS. I GET IT. ANYBODY ELSE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? I DO REGARDING THE 2060 PLAN, JOHN? NOPE. SORRY, GO AHEAD. UM, 2026 IS BLUE IS THE ONLY REPAVING WE'RE GONNA DO NEXT YEAR THAT NORTH OF KI WASUM. UM, NOPE. WE HAVE HIGHWAY M IS RECONSTRUCTION. YES. YEAH. RECONSTRUCTION ON HIGHWAY M ACTUALLY DOWN, UH, DOWN BY HIGHWAY T IN THE TOWN OF JACKSON AREA THERE. THAT'S A RECONSTRUCTION PROJECT. WELL, IT'S BLUE DOTTED. YEAH. SO THAT ONE WAS, THAT WAS ONE OF THE EXAMPLES THERE WHERE THAT WAS ORIGINALLY GONNA BE A THREE MILE RECONSTRUCTION THAT WE HAD TO CHUNK UP AND WE'RE DOING THAT SOUTHERN MILE THIS YEAR. SHOULD BE HOPEFULLY IN THE NEXT FEW WEEKS, END OF MONTH OPENED UP, END OF THE MONTH, END OF OCTOBER IS OUR, IS OUR HOPE RIGHT NOW MM-HMM . UH, AND THEN THAT NORTHERN TWO MILES OF THAT GOT BUMPED BACK TO 2026. SO, AND AS WE CRUNCH MORE NUMBERS HERE, UH, THAT S PROJECT IS, WE'RE HOPING WE CAN MAKE THAT GO NEXT YEAR. BUT DEPENDING HOW THINGS SHAKE OUT AS WE, AS WE REFINE THESE, UM, WE'LL SEE IF WE CAN STILL MAKE S WORK INTO 2026. SO. SO ALL IN ALL, YOU THINK THE, THE COUNTY ROADS OVERALL ARE ACTUALLY IN PRETTY GOOD CONDITION THEN? I WOULD SAY YES. IF YOU LOOK AT THE OVERALL CONDITION OF, UM, I WOULD SAY THAT'S, IT'S IMPROVING ON AVERAGE AS WE DO OUR PACER RATINGS. IT'S REQUIRED EVERY OTHER YEAR THAT WE DO THOSE AT A MINIMUM EVERY OTHER YEAR. I WOULD SAY OVERALL OUR NUMBERS ARE, ARE, FEEL LIKE THEY'RE GETTING BETTER. MM-HMM . OUR ROADS ARE LASTING LONGER BECAUSE OF THE MAINTENANCE OF MAINTENANCE THAT WE'RE TAKING ON 'EM WITH OUR CRACK FILLING CREW. KNOCKS IT OUT OF THE PARK. WE GOT OUTSTANDING LEADERSHIP ON THAT CREW. THEY COVER SO MANY MILES. UM, AND THEN WITH THE NEW PRODUCTS, STIC AND OTHER TECHNOLOGIES THAT ARE COMING INTO PLAY AND OUR CHIN CEILING AND THE GRANITE AND ALL OF THAT, THAT'S ALL YOU CAN SEE THAT WORKING NOW. SO. AND I WILL BE INTERESTED TO SEE HOW THE GRANITE WORKS VERSUS ME, THE OTHER STUFF. ME, ME TOO. I'M EXCITED. I, SO I LIKE IT. I REALLY, REALLY LIKE IT SO FAR. YEAH. UM, NOTHING BUT POSITIVE THINGS. GOOD. YOU KNOW, COMING BACK FROM THAT. I DON'T WANT TO TAKE UP ALL THE TIME. ANYBODY ELSE HAS QUESTIONS OR I'M IN JUST PROJECT, UH, FOR NEXT YEAR THAT'S GONNA TAKE PLACE IN WESTERN TO 60. YES. MM-HMM . YEP. THAT'S CORRECT. THANK YOU SCOTT. YES. UH, JUST WANNA POINT OUT THAT THIS WAS A, A DRAFT AGENDA ITEM TO GET KIND A LITTLE FLAVOR, GET YOU THINKING ABOUT A LITTLE BIT. UH, WE HOPE THAT BY NEXT MONTH YOU ACTUALLY SEE THE WHOLE PACKET OF INFORMATION, UH, THAT THE COMMITTEE HAS SEEN PREVIOUSLY. SO YOU'LL SEE THE, THE NUMBERS INVOLVED AND ALL THAT KIND OF STUFF NEXT MONTH. I'M JUST GLAD TO SEE HOW HELPFUL THIS HAS BEEN. I THOUGHT IT WAS A GOOD IDEA WHEN YOU FIRST INTRODUCED IT TO ME, YOU KNOW? MM-HMM . SO GOOD. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? SEEING NONE, WE WILL MOVE ON TO LOCAL MUNICIPALITY INTERSECTION ROAD SAFETY PLAN. OKAY. JOSH, YOU GOT A LOT OF TALKING TODAY? YEAH, WELL I'LL TRY TO KEEP IT QUICK AND SIMPLE. , UH, JUST WANTED TO SHOW YOU THE EXAMPLE I MENTIONED HOW, UH, WE'VE BEEN WORKING ON THE LOCAL PLANS, UH, JUST PRESENTED TO THE TOWN OF POCA ON TUESDAY NIGHT AND TOWN OF JACKSON HERE, COMING UP HERE, HOPEFULLY NEXT WEEK. UM, JUST KIND OF WANT TO JUST SCAN THROUGH THIS PLAN JUST TO SHOW YOU THE FORMAT OF WHAT WE'RE PRESENTING TO THE LOCALS. I DON'T NEED TO OH, THAT'S ACCURATE. OKAY. NEED TO GO INTO THE, INTO DETAIL ON ANY OF THIS, IF YOU'VE GOT ANY QUESTIONS ALONG THE WAY. OH, THAT'S SPEAK UP. BUT IT'S, IT'S BUILT VERY SIMILAR IT TO OUR COUNTY PLANS. SO WE, LIKE I SAID, THIS IS A INTERSECTION AND ROADWAY PLAN KIND OF ROLLED INTO ONE. OUR COUNTY PLANS ARE SEPARATED. MM-HMM . UM, TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THEIR TOWNSHIP, THE INVENTORY OF THEIR ROADS, HOW MANY MILES OF ROADWAY THEY HAVE WITHIN THEIR BORDERS AND UNDER THEIR CONTROL. SAME WITH WITH INTERSECTIONS. KIND OF TALK ABOUT, YOU KNOW, DIFFERENT LEVELS OF CONTROL ON THOSE. UM, JUST LIKE THE COUNTY PLANS, LEMME GET THIS A LITTLE BIT BIGGER. WE LOOK AT THE THREE CATEGORIES, NUMBER OF CRASHES, UH, CRASH RATE, WHICH IS BASED ON TRAFFIC VOLUMES AND CRASH SEVERITY. SO EVEN IF YOU HAVE A LOW NUMBER OF CRASHES, UM, BUT PEOPLE ARE GETTING SEVERELY INJURED OR IF THERE'S FATALITIES, YOU KNOW, THAT'S OBVIOUSLY VERY IMPORTANT TO LOOK AT AS WELL. SO WE TAKE THOSE AND I GOTTA GIVE A PLUG TO MIKE ANDERSON AND IN GIS HE'S OUTSTANDING TO WORK, WORK WITH. IT'S BEEN A FLURRY OF MAPPING ACTIVITY GOING BACK AND FORTH BETWEEN OUR DEPARTMENT AND HIM. UM, SO HE IS BEEN AWESOME TO DEAL WITH. UH, SO HE, SO THIS IS THE, THE MILEAGE SHOWING THE, ALL OF THE ROADS IN THE BOLD EXCEPT FOR THE FREEWAY THERE, UH, THAT WERE PART OF THE ANALYSIS. AND THEN THE WHITE DOTS ARE INTERSECTIONS THAT WERE PART OF THE ANALYSIS, JUST A BASIC INVENTORY. AND THEN THE OTHER MAP, UM, SAME BASE MAP AS THAT PREVIOUS ONE. UH, BUT THEN THE ONE THEN THE, THE, THE ROADWAY SEGMENTS AND INTERSECTIONS THAT ROSE TO THE TOP THREE IN THE COUNTY PLANS, WE DID MORE OF A TOP FIVE FOR THE TOWNSHIPS. WE'RE DOING ROUGHLY A TOP THREE, UH, FOR THOSE THREE CATEGORIES. UH, THOSE ARE COLOR CODED ACCORDINGLY. [00:30:01] UM, AND, AND SO YELLOW WOULD BE IF THEY'RE A HIGH NUMBER OF CRASHES, ORANGE IS HIGHER CRASH RATE AND BLUE IS HIGHER CRASH SEVERITY. AND A FEW THINGS SCORED HIGH IN THE TOP THREE ON, ON MULTIPLE CATEGORIES. SO IF THEY CAME INTO THE TOP THREE ON ANY OF THOSE, WE BROKE THAT DOWN. HERE'S A, HERE'S SOME TABLES THAT KIND OF SUMMARIZE THAT MAP. THIS IS JUST SORTED OUT IN THREE DIFFERENT WAYS. SO THIS SHOWS THE TOP THREE BY, BY TOTAL CRASHES, NEXT TABLE SORTS IN THE TOP THREE OF CRASH RATE. AND THEN THE NEXT TABLE IS CRASH SEVERITY. AND THEN THERE'S EXPLANATION OF WHAT THOSE THREE CATEGORIES MEAN. AND THEN IF THEY CAME, IF THEY ROSE TO THE TOP, INTO THE TOP THREE OF ANY OF THOSE CATEGORIES, UH, WE PROFILED THOSE INTERSECTIONS. SO IF WE GET INTO A, A GENERAL ASSESSMENT OF, YOU KNOW, HOW IS THIS INTERSECTION SET UP? SO THE, THE, THE FIRST SET OF PROFILES IS INTERSECTIONS AND THEN IT GETS INTO THE ROADWAYS. UM, SO JUST A BRIEF DESCRIPTION ON THE LAYOUT OF THE INTERSECTION ITSELF. UM, I GO THROUGH EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THE CRASH REPORTS THAT THAT HAPPENED AT THESE LOCATIONS. AND YOU CAN SEE THE DOTS ON MAYBE NOT SO MUCH ON THE SCREEN, BUT THERE'S COLOR DOTS ON HERE. SO THAT'S PULLING THE DATA FROM, UH, COMMUNITY MAPS. UM, SO EVERY TIME THAT LAW ENFORCEMENT RESPONDS TO A CRASH, THEY FILL OUT THAT CRASH REPORT AND THAT GETS LOGGED INTO THE DATABASE AND THAT'S PRODUCES ONE OF THESE DOTS ON THE MAP. SO I LOOK AT EVERY ONE OF THOSE CRASH REPORTS, LOOK AT THE NARRATIVE AND THE DIAGRAMS AND KIND OF SUMMARIZE IF THERE'S ANY TRENDS OR WHAT KIND OF CRASHES HAPPENED AT THAT. AND I TRIED TO, TRIED TO BOIL THAT DOWN INTO A NICE BRIEF SUMMARY OF, YOU KNOW, MULTIPLE CRASHES WERE ANGLE OR T-BONE CRASHES HERE, WHICH, YOU KNOW, THAT KIND OF THING. UM, SO THEN WHAT CAN WE DO ABOUT IT? WELL, IF IT'S A, IF IT'S A TWO-WAY STOP AND A FOUR LEG, FOUR LEG INTERSECTION, UH, WE HAVE SOME, WE HAVE AN ISSUE OR A TREND POTENTIALLY OF CARS PULLING OUT, THINKING THE OTHER DIRECTION'S GONNA STOP. MM-HMM. SO WE RECOMMEND, YOU KNOW, PUTTING OUT DO NOT, OR CROSS TRAFFIC DOES NOT STOP SIGNAGE. AND SURE YOU CAN HAVE FLASHING SIGNAGE, SOLAR POWER SIGNAGE, ADVANCED WARNING SIGNAGE, ORANGE FLAGS ON THE, THAT KIND OF STUFF. SO THAT'S THE KIND OF POTENTIAL REMEDIES AS THEY'RE CALLED IN THE PLAN OF WHAT WE RECOMMEND. AGAIN, THE TOWN IS NOT OBLIGATED TO DO ANYTHING WITH THIS IN MANY CASES. YOU GOTTA LOOK AT THE TYPES OF CRASHES MM-HMM . HOW THEY OCCURRED WHEN THEY OCCURRED, WAS THERE IMPAIRMENT, WAS THERE, SPEED, THAT KIND OF STUFF. SOMETIMES NO ACTION IS THE BEST ACTION BECAUSE YOU GOTTA LOOK AT WHY THINGS. YOU CAN'T MAKE A KNEE JERK REACTION FOR SOMETHING THAT WAS OBVIOUSLY DRIVER ERROR FOR ONE CRASH OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT. SO YOU GOTTA BE, GOTTA HAVE SOME COMMON SENSE BEHIND IT. MM-HMM . BUT WE CAME UP WITH SOME POTENTIAL REMEDIES IF THERE'S SOME SORT OF A PROBLEM THAT MIGHT BE OCCURRING. SO THAT'S HOW WE DID IT. WE ROLLED THROUGH THESE, PUT TOGETHER, YOU KNOW, THE TOP THREE FOR THE NUMBER OF CRASHES, CRASH RATE AND SEVERITY. UM, THEN USING GOOGLE EARTH, JUST USING STREET VIEW IMAGERY. UM, I TRIED TO GET A, A VISUAL FOR THE PEOPLE THAT WHOEVER'S LOOKING AT THE PLAN TO KIND OF VISUALIZE HOW THIS, WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE OUT ON THE STREET FROM ALL THE DIFFERENT DIRECTIONS OF THE INTERSECTION. SO THAT'S HOW WE DID THAT THROUGH THE INTERSECTION PORTION OF IT. YOU KNOW, HERE WE GOT DUAL STOP SIGNAGE WITH REFLECTIVITY, UM, TRIMMING VEGETATION, THAT KIND OF THING. UM, AND THEN WE GET INTO THE ROADWAYS. SO VERY SIMILAR. SO THE INTERSECTION CAPTURES ALL OF THE CRASHES THAT HAPPENED WITHIN A 250 FOOT RADIUS OF THE CENTER POINT OF THAT INTERSECTION. THE ROADWAY PORTION OF IT CAPTURES EVERYTHING ELSE ON THE TOWN CONTROL OR THE TOWN ROAD LEVEL. SO OUTSIDE OF THE INTERSECTION AREAS BROKEN DOWN THE EXACT SAME WAY. THE ONLY DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE ROADWAYS AND INTERSECTIONS IS WE GOTTA CALCULATE THINGS AND LOOK AT THINGS A LITTLE DIFFERENTLY BECAUSE ROADWAY SEGMENTS CAN BE ANY RANDOM LENGTH. OKAY. OKAY. THE INTERSECTIONS ARE POINTS, SO IT'S EASY TO CALCULATE, BUT IF YOU'RE LOOKING AT NUMBER OF CRASHES ON A 300 FOOT SEGMENT VERSUS A MILE LONG SEGMENT, WE GOTTA TAKE THAT INTO PLAY. SO WE CALL THAT NOR WE NORMALIZE THE NUMBERS, WE KIND OF SCALE IT BASED ON THE SIZE OF THE SEGMENT LENGTH JUST TO, SO IT'S NOT SUPER SKEWED AS YOU LOOK AT CRASH RATE. I KNOW I DON'T WANNA, IT'S A LOT OF INFORMATION, BUT , UM, THAT'S WHAT, THAT'S, THAT'S HOW MIKE VANDER SAND AND WAVES HIS MAGIC WAND AND HE CAN SPIT OUT THESE PRETTY NUMBERS AND PRETTY MAPS. SO, UM, SAME WAY THEN WITH THE ROADWAYS, NUMBER OF CRASHES, CRASH RATE, CRASH SEVERITY, AND UH, VISUAL OF, YOU KNOW, WHERE THOSE CRASHES OCCURRED. STREET VIEW IMAGERY, GIVEN A VISUAL AID TO THAT AND, UH, RECOMMENDED RE REMEDIES OR POTENTIAL REMEDIES. SO DO WE, WHEN WE FINISH THESE UP, DO WE PUT THESE ON OUR WEBSITE AS WELL? OR DO WE JUST HAND THEM TO THE MUNICIPALITIES AND LET THEM PUT [00:35:01] 'EM UP ON THEIR WEBSITES? THE ONCE WE, ONCE I PRESENT IT TO THEM, THEY HAVE IT ELECTRONICALLY, I CAN PROVIDE SOME EXTRA HARD COPIES. IT IS COMPLETELY UP TO THEM WHAT THEY WANNA DO WITH IT. OKAY. HOW THEY WANT TO USE IT, HOW THEY WANNA PUBLICIZE IT. MM-HMM . UM, HOWEVER, WHATEVER THEY SEE FIT, IT IS COMPLETELY IN THEIR HANDS. THEY'RE NOT OBLIGATED TO DO ANYTHING WITH IT. UM, IT'S PURELY INFORMATIONAL, JUST SHARING INFORMATION. SO, SO WE DO WANT TO, WE DO WANNA THANK LIKE THE COUNTY EXEC THOUGH HE DID MAKE THIS A PRIORITY, UH, TO WORK WITH THE LOCALS AND, AND DEVELOP THIS. AND YOU KNOW, WE'RE LOOKING AT TRYING TO INCREASE SAFETY COUNTYWIDE, YOU KNOW, THIS GOES BEYOND THE COUNTY HIGHWAY SYSTEM AND, UM, IT'S REALLY, IT'S REALLY, I DO ENJOY WORKING WITH THE LOCALS AS WELL AND GETTING TO SOME OF THE TOWN MEETINGS AND WORKING WITH SOME OF THEIR OFFICIALS AND SHOWING 'EM WHAT WE DO AND HOPEFULLY HELP IT OUT. I'M SURE THEY APPRECIATE IT TOO. AND THEY CAN DEVELOP THEIR OWN BUDGETS AS WELL. THEY CAN RUN WITH IT HOWEVER THEY WANT. MM-HMM . ANY QUESTIONS? YEAH, SO THESE REPORTS, JOSH, THEY, YOU KNOW, THEY HAVE CRASH DATA IN THERE AND THEY REFER TO CRASHES, BUT WE'RE NOT GETTING INTO LIKE PAVER RATINGS OR, YOU KNOW, YOU KNOW, ROADS THAT NEED TO, YOU KNOW, CONDITION REPORTS OF ROADS, THINGS LIKE THAT. SO IS IS THAT SOMETHING THEY'RE JUST HANDLING? THIS DOES NOT GET INTO THAT. UM, OKAY. SO THE, THE DATA THAT WAS PART THAT WAS USED IN THIS ANALYSIS, UH, I SHOULD HAVE MENTIONED THAT TOO, STARTS AT, WE USED A FIVE YEAR WINDOW, JUST LIKE THE COUNTY PLAN. SO THESE CRASHES WERE FROM JANUARY 1ST, 2020 THROUGH DECEMBER 31ST, 2024, AND THEN AT THE VERY END OF THE PLAN. SO THAT KIND OF GIVES YOU A NICE CLEAN FIVE YEAR WINDOW. UM, AND THEN AT THE VERY END OF THE PLAN, UH, THROUGH COMMUNITY MAPS, I DID A SCREENSHOT OF CRASHES THAT OCCURRED IN 2025. SO SINCE JANUARY 1ST, 2025 UP UNTIL WHENEVER THIS PLAN GETS PUBLISHED, UH, JUST TO KIND OF TAKE THOSE INTO CONSIDERATION AS WELL. SO IF THEY KNOW, YOU KNOW, IF, IF A COUPLE OF CRASHES HAVE HAPPENED IN 2025 HERE, MAYBE A NEW, MAYBE A NEW ISSUE FLARED UP, YOU KNOW, MAYBE TREES OVERGREW A STOP SIGN OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT THAT THEY DIDN'T REALIZE. UM, BUT IT DOES NOT TAKE INTO THE ROAD CONDITION. ALL IT REALLY DOES IS IS THE A DT, THE AVERAGE DAILY TRAFFIC, IS THAT BECAUSE THEY HAVE THAT DATA OR THEY'RE EXPECTED TO HAVE THAT AS PART OF THEIR UH, THEY DO HAVE THAT, THEY DO THIS, THEY DO THE PACER SYS THE PACER RATINGS. YEAH. JUST LIKE WE DO. UM, SO THEY'RE ALREADY AWARE OF THAT. YES. THEY SHOULD BE VERY, THEY'RE, THEY'RE IN CHARGE OF THEIR OWN ROAD CONDITIONS, OBVIOUSLY TOWN ROADS, YOU KNOW, THINGS, THE CONDITION MIGHT BE, THEY MIGHT HAVE A DIFFERENT LEVEL OF EXPECTATIONS FOR, FOR THE SURFACING, BUT IF THEY KNOW THAT, YOU KNOW, A ROAD IS RATED A THREE OR A FOUR AND IS DUE FOR RESURFACING SOON, MAYBE THEY, MAYBE THEY LOOK AT THIS AND BE LIKE, OKAY, MAYBE WE GOTTA ADJUST THAT INTERSECTION A LITTLE BIT THROUGH A ROAD PROJECT. RIGHT. AND WORK THAT IN THERE. MAYBE THAT HELPS PRIORITIZE SOMETHING, THE 2060 PLANS AS WELL. YEAH. AND SCOTT JUST MENTIONED WE'LL BE WORKING WITH THEM ON, AS WE WORK ON THE 2060 PLANS FOR THE, FOR THE LOCALS, THAT'S WHERE THAT CAN KIND OF MARRY UP WITH SOME OF THE THE SAFETY THING. YEAH. JUST LIKE WE DO WITH THE COUNTY PLANS, UM, IF THERE'S MAJOR SAFETY ISSUES, ROAD NEEDS TO GET REALIGNED OR INTERSECTION NEEDS TO GET REDESIGNED OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT, YOU CAN LOOK AT ALL OF THESE AS AS RESOURCES AS THEY MAKE THEIR DECISIONS. SO THE NEXT QUESTION I HAVE IS, SO WE, YOU KNOW, WE'VE WORKED WITH A COUPLE MUNICIPALITIES AND I SAW, I THINK I SAW CITY OF WEST BEND, YOU KNOW, I, YOU KNOW, I WORK WITH THE CITY OF WEST BEND. SO, UH, WHEN DID THAT, YOU KNOW, START, I MEAN, HOW HAS THAT, UH, UM, YOU KNOW, ARE, ARE ALL THE MUNICIPALITIES IN THE COUNTY AWARE THAT YOU KNOW, THAT THIS IS AN OPTION FOR THEM, YOU KNOW, THAT WE KNOW OF AND SO, YOU KNOW, ARE THEY RECEPTIVE TO, YOU KNOW, IS EVERYBODY RECEPTIVE? ARE SOME, ARE SOME NOT RECEPTIVE? I MEAN, I, YES. UH, THIS WAS MENTIONED TO US SEVERAL TIMES AT THE LOCAL OFFICIALS MEETING. THE COUNTY EXECUTIVE MEETS WITH THE LOCAL ELECTED OFFICIALS, UH, THROUGHOUT THE COURSE OF THE YEAR. SO THEY'RE ALL MORE THAN AWARE OF IT. WE GOT A, A SHORT LIST OF THOSE THAT ARE IN LINE FOR 2060 PLANS. WE HAVE FOUR OF THEM COMPLETE TO DATE. AND WE'RE NEXT ONES ARE STARTING TO ROLL IN WITH TOWN OF ADDISON AND POTENTIALLY TOWN OF JACKSON AS WELL. SO WE'RE STARTING TO ROLL THOSE OUT. AND, UH, WELL THE STAFF OF TWO, UH, YOU ONLY GET A HANDFUL DONE A YEAR GRANTED AWAY. SO, BUT THAT, THAT'S IMPORTANT IS YES, THEY'RE, THEY'RE AWARE OF IT. UH, WITH NOW WITH THIS KNOWLEDGE OF THESE PLANS OUT THERE THAT ELECTED OFFICIALS MEETING, UH, THEY'LL KNOW IT. WE'LL HAVE A SPRING MEETING WITH THE LOCAL, UH, ROAD CREWS AS WELL AS ELECTED OFFICIALS. EVERY SPRING WE MEET WITH, UH, THOSE, SO WE WILL HIGHLIGHT THOSE AGAIN, JUST LIKE OUR CULVERT INVENTORY PROGRAM AND JUST KEEP, KEEP PUSHING IT OUT THERE AND, AND LET THEM KNOW WHAT'S OUT THERE AND AVAILABLE. AND I THINK ONCE YOU HIT A, YOU KNOW, THE FIRST TWO TOWNS AND THEY START TALKING TO THE OTHER TOWNS, I THINK, UH, ESPECIALLY WITH, THAT'S HOW IT WORKS WITH THE CULVERT THING, RIGHT? ONE TOWN DOES IT AND THEY, THEY TALK ABOUT IT AND THEY GO, OKAY, THAT'S A GOOD IDEA. AND THAT WAS REALLY HELPFUL. AND HOPEFULLY WHEN JOSH DOES THE, THE TOWN OF JACKSON, MR. HARTWIG WILL TALK TO OTHER TOWNS AND TELL 'EM HOW GOOD IT WAS AND THAT THEY CAN MIRROR THAT WITH THEIR, THEIR ROAD PLAN AND THE SAFETY PLANS ALL TOGETHER GOING, [00:40:01] YEAH, THERE MIGHT BE A STRETCH OF ROADWAY THEY WERE GONNA REDO GOING WELL, WE PUT A, THEY GOT PROBLEMS ON THE CURVE. WE PUT A SUPER ON THE CURVE AND PUT SOME SIGNS UP AT THE SAME TIME THAT MIGHT, YOU KNOW, HELP SOLVE THAT PROBLEM. WHERE IN THE PAST MAYBE THEY JUST WOULD'VE JUST REPAVED IT WITHOUT EVEN THINKING ABOUT IT. SO THAT, THAT'S THE KIND OF THING WE WANNA START THEM, HELP THEM THINKING ABOUT THINGS OF, OF SAFETY AND AS WELL AS PART OF THAT PROCESS GOING, NOT JUST WHEN TO REPLACE THE ROAD, BUT LOOKING AT THIS PLAN GOING, OH, WE'RE GONNA REPLACE, WE'RE GONNA RE REDO THIS MILE OF ROADWAY. WERE THERE ANY SAFETY PROBLEMS ON THERE? AND LOOK AT THEIR SAFETY PLAN GOING, OH, MAYBE THERE IS SOMETHING WE COULD ADDRESS AT THAT TIME. SO THE, THE PLANS ARE MEANT TO MELD TOGETHER AND WORK TOGETHER. YEAH, I WAS GONNA SAY, SO THIS IS SOMETHING, 'CAUSE THEY ALREADY OBVIOUSLY HAVE BEEN DOING THIS, SO THEN YOU CREATE THIS ONE AND THEY CAN COME UP WITH SOME TYPE OF HYBRID OR THEY CAN UH, YEAH, RIGHT. THEY CAN SORT OF BLEND IT TO MAKE THEIR OWN, TO MAKE THEIR FINAL DECISION ON WHAT THEIR PROJECTS ARE. YES. YEAH. AND IF THEY KNOW, LIKE TOWNSHIPS FOR SPECIFICALLY, IF THEY, YOU KNOW, CITIES AND VILLAGES HAVE A DIFFERENT LEVEL OF STAFFING, DIFFERENT RESOURCES. THEY MIGHT HAVE THEIR OWN ENGINEER, THEY MIGHT FULL HAVE FULL-TIME ENGINEER WHO KNOWS TOWNSHIP PROBABLY NOT. THEY HAVE, MIGHT HAVE A CONSULTANT OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT. BUT EVEN IF WE DIDN'T GET TO THEIR PLAN YET AND THEY KNOW THAT WE'RE DOING THIS, THEY ARE ALWAYS WELCOME TO, TO CALL US UP OR WHATEVER WE CAN, I CAN SIT DOWN AND JUST AT LEAST LOOK AT THIS DATA JUST KIND OF OFF THE CUFF. NOT NECESSARILY IN A FORMAL PLAN, BUT IF THEY, IF THERE'S AN ISSUE THAT THEY WANT TO DISCUSS AND LOOK FOR SOME RECOMMENDATIONS, WE'D BE VERY MUCH OPEN TO HAVING THOSE CONVERSATIONS AND GIVING 'EM OUR 2 CENTS. SO THAT'S ALWAYS ON THE TABLE. AND THEY KNOW THAT TOO FOR THAT WE HAVE THAT, THAT ANNUAL MEETING EVERY APRIL, THE LOCAL, THE ROADWAY TRANSPORTATION DISCUSSION IS WHAT WE CALL IT. AND THIS IS ALWAYS HIGH ON, ON THAT, THAT LIST OF WHAT WE GO OVER. OKAY, GREAT. ALRIGHT, THANKS JOSH. MM-HMM . YOU SAID ADDISON'S NEXT. I'M GOING THERE TONIGHT. WHAT DO I TELL 'EM? YOU'RE STILL NEXT ONE. HOW OF JACKSON IS, IS IS THE NEXT ONE COMING UP FOR THIS PLAN? OH, GOTCHA. UH, ADDISON'S 2060 PLAN. 2060 PLAN. YES. JUST IN THE BEGINNING PHASES OF THAT WITH THEM. OKAY. SO YOU STARTED IT ALREADY? BEGINNING PHASES. OKAY. VERY PRELIMINARY PHASES. THEY'RE NEXT ON THE LIST, SO IT'S IN THE WORKS. GOT IT. YEP. OKAY. THANK YOU. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? ALL RIGHT. SEEING NONE. WE'RE WE'RE GOOD HERE. THANK YOU JOSH. WELCOME. THANK YOU. UM, THAT'S THE LAST ITEM ON OUR AGENDA. SO THE NEXT MEETING IS NOVEMBER 20TH, 2025. THIS MEETING'S ADJOURNED. SEE YOU NOW. I. * This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting.