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WAKE ME UP.

I'D LIKE TO CALL THIS MEETING OF LAND USE AND PLANNING TO ORDER.

UH, THIS MEETING WAS PROPERLY NOTIFIED, UH, BY THE COUNTY CLERK'S OFFICE.

PLEASE RISE AND JOIN ME IN THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE.

I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS, ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL.

THANK YOU.

OKAY.

FIRST UP WE HAVE THE MINUTES OF, UH, SEPTEMBER.

ARE THERE ANY CHANGES OR NOTES TO BE MADE? SEEING NONE, I WILL CONSIDER THEM ACCEPTED.

OUR FIRST DISCUSSION ITEM WILL BE FAIR PARK QUARTERLY REPORT.

UH, MS. LUDOVIC, ARE YOU DOING THAT? YES.

THANK YOU.

UH, OKAY.

THANK YOU.

UH, IN YOUR PACKET TONIGHT, YOU DO HAVE, UH, AN UPDATE ON THE FAIR PARK MODERNIZATION PROJECT.

SO THIS IS THE FIRST TIME THAT WE ARE REALLY SHOWING THE NUMBERS TO THE COMMITTEE AND, AND TO THE PUBLIC AT LARGE, UM, THAT WE HAVE.

SO, UM, WE JUST KIND OF WANTED TO SHARE THAT WITH YOU.

SO IF YOU'VE REVIEWED THE REPORT AT ALL, YOU CAN SEE THAT, UM, THE DEBT ISSUANCE AND FOR PROJECTS OUT AT FAIR PARK, KIND OF WHERE WE'RE AT WITH THE FUNDING AVAILABLE COMPARED TO WHERE WE'RE AT WITH WHAT'S BEEN COMMITTED.

UM, AND THEN WE DO, I DID BREAK DOWN THE DETAIL FOR YOU THIS TIME ON THE WILL SURGE CONTRACT.

SO YOU SEE THE AMOUNT COMMITTED TO BRANCH PATTERN THAT IS, UM, DESIGN ENGINEERING, UM, CONSTRUCTION MANAGEMENT CONTRACT.

AND THEN YOU SEE THE AMOUNT COMMITTED TO THE WILL SEARCH CONTRACT.

UM, SO THAT'S BROKEN OUT BELOW.

JUST TO KIND OF GIVE YOU AN IDEA OF HOW THE VARIOUS PROJECT ELEMENTS THAT WE HAVE TRACKING WITHIN THAT AWARD.

UM, WE, THE, THE FACILITY IS, WELL ON ITS WAY UNDER CONSTRUCTION.

UH, MOST OF THE LIGHTING, A LOT OF THE OUTDOOR LIGHTING HAS BEEN STARTED AND HAS BEEN COMPLETED.

UM, BUT IT, IT CONTINUES, THERE'S A LARGE CHUNK OF TIME IN, UM, DECEMBER RIGHT AFTER THE FIRST CRAFT SHOW, BEFORE THE SEC SECOND KIND OF CRAFT SHOW WHERE THEY'RE GOING TO KNOCK OUT A SUBSTANTIAL AMOUNT OF THE INDOOR WORK IN THE PAVILION AND THE ZIEGLER CENTER.

SO WE'RE KIND OF WAITING, THE PROJECT'S EXPECTED TO BE COMPLETED, UM, BY MAY 31ST.

UM, THERE ARE A NUMBER OF CHANGE ORDERS THAT ARE COMING UP AS WE'RE GOING THROUGHOUT THE PROJECT.

SO WE'VE BEEN KIND OF MONITORING THAT TO SEE, UM, HOW MUCH OF THE FUNDING WOULD BE AVAILABLE FOR THAT.

UM, YOU CAN KIND OF NOTE BELOW THAT SOME OF THE THINGS THAT WE ARE TRACKING THAT WE ARE LOOKING AT POTENTIALLY.

WE ALSO HAD AN INTERNAL MEETING YESTERDAY.

THE FACILITIES DEPARTMENT IS PREPARING.

UM, WE ARE ROBUSTLY GOING THROUGH ALL OF THE PHYSICAL ASSETS OUT THERE AND THE THINGS LIKE THE POND PUMPS AND THE FURNACES IN THE ZIEGLER BUILDING, WHICH ARE ORIGINAL TO THAT FACILITY.

SO SOME THINGS THAT WEREN'T NECESSARILY INCLUDED IN THE SCOPE OF THIS INITIALLY, UM, BUT WOULD BE QUALIFIED UNDER THE DEBT EXPENSE SO THAT WE CAN PUT FORWARD SOME RECOMMENDATIONS, UM, ON THE BALANCE OF THIS FUNDING FOR, UH, MAINTENANCE THAT NEEDS TO OCCUR AT THE FACILITY AND GROUNDS, AND HAVE THAT KIND OF CONVERSATION WITH THE COUNTY EXECUTIVE AND, AND THE INTERNAL TEAM BEFORE WE KIND OF MAKE A RECOMMENDATION ON, ON SOME OF THIS.

THERE ARE SOME MINOR, UM, THINGS THAT ARE JUST MOVING FORWARD, YOU KNOW, WITH REGARDS TO CHANGE ORDERS, BUT NOTHING MAJOR.

SO I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT THIS REPORT.

UM, OR IF YOU'D LIKE TO SEE ADDITIONAL DETAIL OR HAVE ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS, WE CAN, WE CAN BRING THAT TO YOU.

UM, ALSO UNDER THE FAIR PARK QUARTERLY REPORT, THERE IS, UH, THERE WAS AN A IS BOARD MEETING THIS MORNING.

UM, THERE'S SOME CONVERSATION ABOUT, UH, KIND OF THE DIRECTION AND THE, THE PRICING.

AND THERE WAS ALSO A FUN FAIR BALLOT REGARDING NEXT YEAR'S THEME.

UM, SO THAT IS AT YOUR TABLE.

PLEASE DO THAT AND DROP IT OFF IF BEFORE YOU LEAVE, UM, SHOULD YOU CHOOSE TO DO THAT.

SO, UM, I'LL ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU HAVE ABOUT THIS REPORT.

ALL RIGHT.

ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR JAMIE? SUPERVISOR? MARY? THANK YOU, CHAIR.

ARE WE ON SCHEDULE? YES.

THANK YOU SUPERVISOR CONRAD.

THANK YOU CHAIR.

UM, YOU SPOKE OF SOME ADDITIONAL THINGS, MS. LUDOVIC THAT WOULD THOSE POTENTIALLY HAVE BUDGET IMPLICATIONS, LIKE REGARDING THE ZIEGLER BUILDING, LIKE YOU SAID, THE PUMPS AND THINGS.

ARE THOSE THINGS THAT YOU WOULD TRY AND LIKE PUT

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INTO THIS NEXT BUDGET OR HOW WE FIGHT NATURALLY TO HANDLE THOSE OR DON'T WE REALLY KNOW YET? SO WE BORROWED MONEY FOR A SCOPE THAT INCLUDED LIGHTING, ACOUSTICS AND SOME RENOVATION UPGRADES.

UM, THE BIDS AND THE PROJECT MANAGEMENT CAME BACK VERY FAVORABLE.

SO THERE'S A BALANCE OF MONEY THAT WAS BORROWED FOR THE STATED PURPOSES OF FAIR PARK INFRASTRUCTURE.

MM-HMM .

SEPARATE THIS PROJECT, THE FACILITIES DEPARTMENT MAINTAINS A CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROGRAM THAT HAS A NUMBER OF THINGS IN IT, THE FIVE 10 YEAR PLAN, UM, THINGS LIKE, UH, ASPHALT, HVAC UNITS, ROOF, ROOF MEMBRANES, THINGS LIKE THAT.

UM, AND THEN IN A, AND SO WE ARE CURRENTLY REVIEWING THAT FOR ELIGIBLE EXPENSES THAT COULD BE QUALIFIED FOR THIS FUNDING AS WELL AS WE'RE ACTUALLY DIGGING DEEPER BECAUSE THERE CURRENTLY IS NOT A FIVE 10.

THERE CURRENTLY IS NOT.

IT'S KIND OF DONE BUDGET BY BUDGET.

SO WE'RE GOING BACK TO SOME OF THE ASSETS THAT WE KNOW ARE NEARING END OF LIFE AT THE ZIEGLER BUILDING.

AND WE'RE GONNA DIVE IN.

THE FACILITIES TEAM'S GONNA DIVE BACK IN TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE COVERING OR THAT WE HAVE NUMBERS AND EYES ON EVERYTHING THAT WOULD BE WITHIN THE NEXT, SAY, FIVE YEAR TIMEFRAME SO THAT WE AREN'T, UM, REQUESTING THAT FUNDING IN FUTURE CYCLES.

SO THERE'S SOME SHUFFLING.

SO WE'RE WORKING THROUGH WHAT THAT RECOMMENDATION COULD POTENTIALLY LOOK LIKE, UM, AS WE, UH, KEEP GOING ON THE PROJECT AND, AND REALIZE, UM, HOW THE FUNDING SHAKES OUT, IF THAT MAKES SENSE.

SO YOU CAN SEE THERE'S, THIS REPORT IS SHOWING THERE'S $2.1 MILLION AVAILABLE.

YEAH.

SO IT ISN'T THAT HIGH.

WE ARE GOING TO SPEND MORE, WE ADDED, YOU KNOW, WE, WE ORIGINALLY KIND OF WERE CONCERNED ABOUT THE COST OF THE PAVILION FLOOR, SO THAT WAS NOT IN IT, IN THAT THAT'S A PROBABLY A SIX FIGURE PROJECT.

SO THERE'S A NUMBER OF THINGS THAT COULD POTENTIALLY CHANGE THAT AND WE WILL KEEP THAT CONVERSATION FLUID AS WE, AS WE, AS THE PROJECT EVOLVES.

BUT AS OF RIGHT NOW, THERE'S SOME INITIAL CONVERSATION ABOUT MAKING SURE WE HAVE A FULL LIST OF, OF THINGS THAT NEED TO WORK, THAT NEEDS TO GET DONE.

OKAY, THANK YOU.

SO WE'RE FINE RIGHT NOW AND VERY GOOD SUPERVISOR PRIDE MOORE.

UM, JUST ONE QUESTION.

WHAT IS SECURITY BOLLARDS? BOLLARDS, WHAT? THOSE ARE BOLLARDS.

THEY'RE DRIVE INTO A BUILDING.

YEAH.

OKAY.

KEEP PEOPLE FROM, I'VE NEVER HEARD DRIVING THEIR BUSLOAD OF BOMBS INTO A BUILDING.

SO SOMETIMES THEY'RE STONES, SOMETIMES THEY'RE STEEL POSTS.

YES.

AND THIS LIST IS EVOLVING.

SO THERE WERE SOME CARD ACCESS, UH, CAMERA QUESTIONS THAT CAME UP ON THE FACILITY WITH THE ZIEGLER DOOR REPLACEMENT.

UM, SO THAT'S SOMETHING THAT'S BEING LOOKED INTO.

THE SECURITY BOLLARDS RIGHT NOW ARE ACTUALLY PLANTERS, FLOWER POTS.

IF YOU GO OUT THERE, UH, IT'S LIKELY THAT WE MIGHT KEEP THE FLOWER POTS.

SO I THINK AGAIN, WE HAVEN'T REALLY HAD AN IN-DEPTH CONVERSATION YET ABOUT THE PRIORITIES OF THESE THINGS RIGHT NOW.

WE JUST MORE OR LESS ARE KIND OF CREATING THE LIST.

OKAY.

SUPERVISOR KREBS, THANK YOU.

UM, UP AT THE TOP, UNDER EXPENSES, WHAT IS BRANCH PATTERN AND ARBITRAGE AND YES, SO THE ARBITRAGE IS A PAYMENT WE HAD TO PAY BACK BECAUSE OUR INTEREST EARNINGS ON THE DEBT WERE HIGHER THAN OUR, WE MADE, YOU CAN'T UNDER PUBLIC FINANCING LAWS, YOU CAN'T MAKE MONEY ON BORROWS.

SO YOU CAN'T BORROW MONEY AT 3% AND THEN EARN 6% INTEREST.

WHO GETS THAT MONEY BACK THEN? THE, OR WHO DO WE PAY AT THAT? FINANCING PEOPLE? THE, THE LENDER? I THINK SO.

OKAY.

YEAH, THERE'S A LAW, BUT YOU CAN'T DO THAT UNDER PUBLIC.

THAT'S A MARGIE QUESTION, BUT IT IS RELATED TO INTEREST EARNINGS BEING MORE THAN WHAT THE RATE WE BORROWED AT.

OKAY.

UM, AND THEN WHAT WAS THE BRANCH PATTERN? UM, THAT IS OUR CO SO THEY WERE, THEY DID THE, UM, THEY DID THE DESIGN ENGINEERING OF THE ACOUSTICS AND OUR CONSTRUCTION MANAGING THROUGH THE PROJECT FOR ESSENTIALLY THE A WELL ALL OF THE PROJECT.

BUT THEY'RE AN AV CONSULTANT THAT HELPED PUT TOGETHER LIKE THE ACOUSTIC PAN, YOU KNOW, THE ACOUSTIC MODELS.

AND UM, SO THEY'RE A DESIGN ENGINEERING FULL SERVICE CONSTRUCTION MANAGEMENT COMPANY.

OKAY.

AND THEN THE HORSE ARENA 24, IS THAT JUST A SMITH SEPARATE SMALLER PROJECT THAT WASN'T INCLUDED IN THE PRIME CONTRACTORS? SO THAT WAS FUNDING IN 24.

THE FIRST TIME WE TRIED TO, UM, DO THE HORSE ARENA WHERE

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WE, UM, DID THAT AND IT GOT CHARGED TO THIS ACCOUNT BECAUSE IT WAS AN ELIGIBLE EXPENSE AT THE TIME.

SO SIMILAR TO, AND THAT IS ONE OF THE ITEMS WE WANTED TO MAKE SURE WE TRANSPARENTLY PUT UP HERE, THAT THAT FUNDING HIT THIS ACCOUNT, THIS BORROW OF, UH, INFRASTRUCTURE AT FAIR PARK AT THE END OF 24.

SO THE WORK WAS ALREADY DONE AND WE JUST PAID FOR IT OUT OF THIS ACCOUNT.

WE HAD ALREADY BORROWED THE MONEY, BUT YES, WE ENDED UP PAYING FOR IT OUT OF THIS ACCOUNT.

OKAY.

AND THEN FOR THE CHANGE ORDERS WHERE IT SAYS SEE NOTES, THAT'S I'M ASSUMING THE DOWN AT THE BOTTOM, THEN THE SECTION WHERE IT'S ADDITIONS TRACKING THINGS? YEAH, WE DON'T HAVE THE COST BACK ON THOSE YET, SO WE HAVEN'T ACTUALLY AUTHORIZED ANY OF THEM YET, BUT WE INTEND TO DO SO.

SO ONCE WE HAVE A NUMBER ON THE CHANGE ORDER, WE JUST ARE PREPARING FOR THE RELOCATION OF THE FARM BUREAU UTILITIES, WHATEVER THAT AMOUNT IS, WE WILL SHOW WE ARE SHOWING.

SO THERE ARE SOME OTHER THINGS THAT ARE, WE ARE GETTING NUMBERS ON THE PAVILION FLOOR.

WE ARE GETTING NUMBERS ON PAVILION ENTRANCE FURNITURE.

SOME OF THAT STUFF WAS NOT IN THE ORIGINAL SCOPE, UM, THAT WE LOOKED AT.

OKAY.

THANK YOU.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? UM, JAMIE, THE, UH, HORSE ARENA 24.

GOING BACK TO THAT.

SO THAT WAS THE ORIGINAL REPAIR THAT WE KIND OF HAD TO GO BACK IN AND DO AGAIN THIS PAST SUMMER, RIGHT? YES.

OKAY.

AND THEN I, REMIND ME, HOW DID WE PAY FOR THIS YEAR'S STRATEGIC PRIORITY DOLLARS.

THAT'S RIGHT.

OKAY.

I JUST WANTED TO BE SURE WHERE, WHAT POT THAT CAME OUT OF.

OKAY.

UH, SO THAT LOOKS PRETTY GOOD.

ANY, UH, ANYTHING ELSE FROM ANYBODY ELSE ON THIS? ALRIGHT.

RIGHT THEN WE WILL MOVE ON.

2025 CROP PRICES.

I'LL NEED A MOTION AND A SECOND.

MOTION BY SUPERVISOR PRIDE MOORE.

SECONDED BY SUPERVISOR KREBS HERE PRESENTING.

YEP, I CAN.

I'M MIKE BERG WITH USDA WILDLIFE SERVICES AND, UM, THE CROP PRICES, YOU GUYS ARE FREE TO MOVE THEM IF YOU WANT TO.

UM, THAT'S JUST A YEAR LONG AVERAGE THAT'S PRESENTED THERE.

UM, YOU CAN MOVE 'EM UP OR DOWN OR LEAVE 'EM AS IS, BUT IT'S TOTALLY UP TO YOU TO, TO DISCUSS AND DECIDE HOW YOU WANNA HANDLE IT.

SUPERVISOR, MARY? YEAH.

ARE THESE THE PRICES THAT FSA IS PAYING ON A LOCAL BASIS ON THE COUNTY BASIS OR WHAT? UM, THIS IS WHAT USDA WILDLIFE SERVICES IS PAYING FOR CROP DAMAGE BY, UM, WILDLIFE SPECIES THAT ARE DAMAGING RURAL CROPS.

SO FSA MIGHT BE PAYING DIFFERENT.

YEP.

I GUESS I WOULD DEFER TO MR. OCKER IF HE HAS ANY QUESTIONS ON THIS.

IT'S BASICALLY WHAT THE PRICES ARE RIGHT NOW.

YOU'VE BEEN A LITTLE BIT HIGHER THAN THEY ACTUALLY ARE.

YEP.

GOING DOWN ALL THE TIME.

THEY WERE HIGH LAST FALL, SO THEY'RE COMING DOWN A LITTLE BIT NOW.

THAT'S WHY THEY MIGHT BE A LITTLE BIT HIGH OF CURRENT PRICE ADVANTAGE OF THAT.

YEAH.

YEP.

BECAUSE, UH, CORN IS UNDER $4 AND SOYBEANS ARE ABOUT, I THINK THEY'RE A LITTLE UNDER 10 AND WEED IS, OH, I THINK IT WAS, UH, FOUR 60 OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.

YEAH.

WE USE A YEAR LONG AVERAGE JUST BECAUSE SOMETIMES THEY SIT ON NEXT DOOR FOR A WHILE AND PRICES COULD GO BACK UP AND SURE.

OKAY.

SO YOU'RE SAYING RALPH, IT'S ALL VERY FAIR.

YEAH.

OKAY.

OKAY.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? THANK YOU.

ALL RIGHT.

UH, HEARING NONE THEN WE WILL UH, SEEK YOUR APPROVAL PLEASE SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.

AYE.

OPPOSED? AND IT PASSES UNANIMOUSLY.

THEN WE GO INTO THE WILDLIFE DAMAGE PROGRAM SERVICES.

THIS ALSO REQUIRES A MOTION AND A SECOND MOTION SUPERVISOR.

KREBS SECONDED BY SUPERVISOR MARY, PLEASE PROCEED SIR.

NO, I WAS JUST GONNA EXPLAIN THE BUDGET A LITTLE BIT IF YOU'D LIKE.

IF, IF YOU DON'T THAT'S FINE TOO.

UM, THIS, THIS IS THE BUDGET TO, FOR NEXT YEAR FOR A WHILE.

DAMAGE ABATEMENT AND CLAIMS PROGRAM, USDA ADMINISTERS THE PROGRAM FOR THE DNR.

SO THIS IS ALL JUST PASSED THROUGH MONEY.

UM, THE NUMBER WE'RE APPROVING IS THE $29,600 AND 47 CENTS.

UM, THAT INCLUDES $1,250 THAT GOES TO YOU GUYS, THE COUNTY FOR, YOU KNOW, ANY PAPERWORK THAT YOU MIGHT INCUR ALONG THE WAY.

THERE'S A FEDERAL COST SHARE THAT USDA PUTS INTO IT.

$4,638 AND 88 CENTS FOR A TOTAL BUDGET OF 34,000 239 35.

UM, LIKE I SAID, THIS IS ALL PASSED THROUGH MONEY.

IT'S PAID FOR BY A HUNDRED DOLLARS THROUGH THE DNR.

SO.

OKAY.

ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS FROM THE COMMITTEE? IS THAT

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STILL, UH, GO AHEAD.

MR. DOOR KNOCKER, IS THAT STILL GOING WITH, IF YOU COLLECT, YOU GOTTA OPEN YOUR LAND HUNTING? THAT'S, YEP, THAT'S CORRECT.

YEP.

SO THERE IS PART OF THE PROGRAM THAT PEOPLE CAN OPEN THEIR LAND FOR HUNTING OR NOT OPEN THEIR LAND FOR HUNTING, FOR NOT PUBLIC HUNTING.

THEY CAN JUST RECEIVE PERMITS, BUT THEY DON'T RECEIVE COMPENSATION.

SO WE CALL THAT A, AN ACT DUTY TWO PERMIT.

OR IF THEY WANNA RECEIVE COMPENSATION, THEY HAVE TO ALLOW PUBLIC HUNTING ON THEIR PROPERTY.

YEP.

SUPERVISOR MARY, THANK YOU CHAIR.

AND THESE ARE ALL PAID DIRECTLY TO THE, THE, THE OP FARM OPERATORS, RIGHT? YEP.

YEP.

SO RIGHT NOW WE PASSED THE CROP PRICES AND I'M STILL LOOKING AT CROPS AND THEN WHOEVER RECEIVES, UM, AN ASSESSMENT ON THEIR CROPS THIS FALL, I'LL BE BACK IN DECEMBER AND THEN I PRESENT ALL THOSE TO YOU GUYS AND, UM, YOU APPROVE THOSE.

SO IF SOMEONE GETS A HUNTER ACCESS COMPLAINT OR UM, IS BELLIGERENT OR DOESN'T FOLLOW PROGRAM RULES, WE COULD POTENTIALLY DENY CLAIMS FOR THAT SORT OF THING.

UM, THAT JUST HELPS HOLD THEM ACCOUNTABLE FOR, YOU KNOW, ALLOWING ACCESS AND, AND DOING WHAT THIS SUPPOSED MY PURPOSE IN ASKING THE QUESTION JUST TO VERIFY THIS MONEY REALLY DOESN'T COME THROUGH THE COUNTY.

IT GOES DIRECTLY TO THE LANDOWNER.

RIGHT, RIGHT, RIGHT.

YEP.

IT DOES GO THROUGH THE COUNTY.

'CAUSE YOU GUYS HAVE TO APPROVE IT, BUT, AND ONCE IT'S APPROVED, THEN IT GOES FROM THE DNR RIGHT.

TO THE LANDOWNER.

YEP.

RIGHT.

SO THIS IS PASSED THROUGH, THIS IS VERY SIMILAR TO, IT DOESN'T EVEN COME THROUGH .

A LOT OF OUR, WE JUST HAVE TO APPROVE THE AMOUNTS.

CORRECT.

RIGHT.

WE DO THE FARM, UH, WASTE SERVICES AND RUNOFF AND ALL THOSE THINGS THAT WE DO.

UM, SO THIS IS YET ANOTHER ONE.

UM, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS ABOUT THE COMMITTEE? HOW DEAR DONATION PROCESSING ZERO? YEAH, SO THAT WE DON'T HAVE ANY PROCESSORS IN WASHINGTON COUNTY THAT ARE PROCESSING DEER FOR THE DEER DONATION PROGRAM ANYMORE.

WE STILL REACH OUT EVERY YEAR AND, AND TRY TO GET SOMEBODY TO, TO JUMP BACK ON BOARD, BUT IT HASN'T HAPPENED AT THIS POINT.

UM, MAY I ASK WHO YOU REACH OUT TO? LIKE MAYBE WE HAVE LOCAL SPORTSMAN CLUBS? YEAH, WE HAVE A LIST OF PROCESSORS THAT PROCESS, UM, WILD GAME MM-HMM .

IN THE COUNTY AND THOSE ARE THE ONES WE REACH OUT FOR, YOU KNOW, FOR OKAY.

PARTICIPATION IN DEER DONATION PROGRAM.

SOME STILL PROCESS VENISON, YOU KNOW, AND DEER, BUT THEY DON'T WANT PARTICIPATE IN THE DEER DONATION PROGRAM.

AND THERE COULD BE A VARIETY OF REASONS FOR THAT.

SOME OF THE, SOME OF THE REIMBURSEMENT FROM THE DNR IS MAYBE A LITTLE BIT LOWER THAN, THAN WHAT THEY EXPECT OR WHAT THEY WOULD LIKE, BUT YEAH, THERE AREN'T CURRENTLY ANY THAT ARE ACCEPTING DEER DONATION.

PEOPLE CAN BRING THEIR DEER THERE AND HAVE IT PROCESSED, BUT THAT'S DIFFERENT THAN DONATING THE VENICE AND, AND HAVING TO PROCESSOR PROCESS IT AND GETTING IT TO A, A PANTRY.

I WOULD SAY FOR THE COMMITTEE, UM, THERE ARE LESS PROCESSORS.

A COUPLE OF BIG ONES WENT OUT AND ARE NO LONGER PROCESSING, SO I WOULDN'T EXPECT THAT TO CHANGE ANYTIME SOON UNLESS, YEAH.

YEAH.

SOME OF THE, THE CWD REGULATIONS TO ON SOME OF THAT STUFF, UM, MAKES IT A LITTLE BIT MORE COMPLICATED AND DETERS A FEW PROCESSORS I SUPPOSE.

OKAY.

YEAH, THAT'S WHAT I WAS WONDERING WHAT THE BARRIERS WERE OR ALL THE REGULATIONS THAT WE DON'T HAVE SOMEONE STEPPING UP IN OUR COMMUNITY.

YEAH.

YEP.

THAT'S A LITTLE SURPRISING TO ME.

YEP.

OKAY.

THANK YOU.

ANY OTHER COMMENTS OR DISCUSSION? HEARING NONE WILL VOTE ON THIS PLEASE SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.

AYE.

OPPOSED? AND THE AYES HAVE IT.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU SIR.

THANK YOU.

OKAY, MOVING ON TO OUR FINAL ITEM, UH, PILOT ROUNDUP PROGRAM.

COMMITTEE REPORT.

UH, THIS WAS FOR THE ROUNDUP FOR THE NEXT 18 THAT THEY PERFORMED OUT AT, UH, THE GOLF COURSE THIS YEAR.

UH, JAMIE, I ASSUME YOU'RE HANDLING THIS.

YEP.

THANK YOU.

UM, I JUST WANNA FIRST START BY CLARIFYING THAT WHEN WE DO A PILOT, BECAUSE I KNOW THERE MIGHT BE A FUTURE PILOT, UM, COMING YOUR WAY, THE IDEA IS THAT WE ARE TRYING SOMETHING WITH THE IDEA THAT THERE ARE, ARE POTENTIALLY THINGS THAT NEED TO BE WORKED OUT THROUGHOUT THE DURATION OF THAT PILOT.

THAT THEN GIVES US THE OPPORTUNITY TO COLLECT DATA TO SEE HOW IT GOES, TO COME BACK WITH A MORE THOROUGH KIND OF REPORT OF HOW IT WENT AND THEN MAKE A DECISION ONE WAY OR ANOTHER TO EITHER MODIFY, YOU KNOW, END STOP, YOU KNOW, FAIL FAST OR CONTINUE OR, YOU KNOW, MAKE TWEAKS OR KIND OF RECEIVE THAT FEEDBACK.

SO THIS IS A REALLY GOOD EXAMPLE OF THAT.

AND SO WHAT I WANNA JUST POINT OUT IS A COUPLE THINGS.

SO WE DID PILOT THE ROUNDING UP AT THE CHECKOUT.

UM, WE ONLY RAISED, UH, $2,500, WHICH WAS I THINK SIGNIFICANTLY LOWER THAN WE WERE EXPECTING.

WE DID DEBRIEF INTERNALLY ABOUT THAT AS IT RELATES

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SPECIFICALLY TO THE QUESTION NUMBER TWO IN THE SURVEY RESULTS.

IF YOU READ YOUR PACKET, UM, IF YOU WERE ASKED TO CHECK OUT, UM, WHICH 65% OF THE SURVEY RESPONDENTS SAID NO, AND WE HAD 208 RESPONSES TO THIS SURVEY.

UM, AND SO THERE'S A VARIETY OF THINGS THAT I THINK WERE AT PLAY THERE IN OUR DEBRIEF.

UM, BEING ONE PEOPLE BOOKING AND PAYING ONLINE.

SO WHEN THEY, THEY DON'T ACTUALLY USE THE POINT OF SALE AT THE CHECKOUT.

SO I THINK THE NUMBER OF TRANSACTIONS WAS POTENTIALLY FEWER.

UM, I THINK THAT THERE WAS SUBSTANTIALLY, AND THIS IS ANECDOTAL, BUT YOU CAN ALSO SEE OVER HALF THE PEOPLE SAID THEY DID NOT ROUND UP MORE PEOPLE SAYING NO THAN, UM, POTENTIALLY WE EXPECTED.

UM, AND THEN LASTLY, WE DO THINK THAT, UM, THERE, THE COMMENT FROM THE STAFF WAS THAT THERE WAS A NUMBER OF REG, THERE'S A NUMBER OF REGULARS.

AND SO WHEN ONCE YOU ASK SOMEBODY IF THEY WOULD LIKE TO ROUND UP AND THEY SAY NO, RIGHT, THE CONSISTENCY TO WHICH YOU ASK AGAIN THE CUSTOMERS, UM, THE EXECUTION OF THE QUESTION IS PROBABLY SOMETHING THAT SHOULD WE CON CHOOSE TO CONTINUE THIS, WE WOULD PROBABLY WANNA HAVE A CONVERSATION ABOUT BOTH HOW WE'RE CAPTURING THE ONLINE CUSTOMERS, BUT ALSO HOW WE'RE CONSISTENTLY EXECUTING THIS PROGRAM.

SO THE SURVEY DOES TELL US THAT WE PROBABLY DIDN'T, UM, TRAIN REINFORCE, UM, AND CONTINUE THIS PROGRAM THROUGHOUT THE SEASON, UM, TO THE LEVEL TO WHICH MANAGEMENT MIGHT EXPECT IF WE WERE TRYING TO DEPLOY THIS CONSISTENTLY.

UM, SO ALL OF THOSE THINGS ARE, ARE AT PLAY.

UM, WE DID DO THIS SURVEY, WE GOT, WE GOT A GOOD RESPONSE TO THE SURVEY.

UM, IT TELLS US, I THINK THAT A NUMBER OF OUR CUSTOMERS DON'T LIKE IT.

IT ALSO TELLS US THAT, UH, A GOOD AMOUNT OF OUR CUSTOMERS THINK THAT THEY KNOW PEOPLE WON'T LIKE IT, BUT THEY STILL THINK IT'S GOOD TO SUPPORT YOUTH GOLF OR TO SELECT A CHARITY.

AND THAT MOST PEOPLE IT DOESN'T REALLY MATTER.

SO I THINK THERE'S, THERE'S DATA HERE THAT SUPPORTS, UM, YOU KNOW, THE CONTINUATION.

I THINK WHERE WE'RE AT, AT THE, AT THE STAFF LEVEL IS THAT BECAUSE IT WAS NOT, THE QUESTION IS REALLY, YOU KNOW, FOR $2,500, IS THIS SOMETHING WE POTENTIALLY WANNA CONTINUE AND PUT TOGETHER A PROCESS OR A PROGRAM FOR CONTINUING TO SELECT DIFFERENT ORGANIZATIONS OR CAUSES? UM, AND I DON'T KNOW THAT WE'RE, WE ARE BELIEVING THERE'S A COMPELLING REASON AT THIS TIME.

UM, BUT ALSO NOTE THAT IT IS A, IS AN OPTION FOR THE COMMUNITY.

AND SO, UM, IT'S KIND OF A NON RECOMMENDATION AND WE'RE OPEN TO FEEDBACK OR THOUGHTS THAT THE COMMITTEE HAS ON, YOU KNOW, WHAT THEY SEE HERE, IF ANYTHING.

UM, BUT ARE LOOKING TO PROBABLY JUST AT THIS POINT, I DON'T KNOW THAT WE'RE PUTTING TOGETHER A PROGRAM TO SELECT ANOTHER RECIPIENT NEXT YEAR.

UM, BUT ALSO THAT THE DOOR COULD BE OPEN SHOULD THERE BE SOMETHING OR A COMPELLING REASON THAT SOMEBODY WOULD CHOOSE IN THE FUTURE TO CONTINUE THE PROGRAM.

UM, SO THAT'S KIND OF, I THINK THE REPORT AND I'M, WE ARE LOOKING FOR FEEDBACK OR WHAT THE COUNTY THINKS ABOUT THIS PROGRAM AND WHETHER OR NOT IT'S SOMETHING THAT SHOULD BE CONTINUED.

ALRIGHT.

SUPERVISOR BRIMORE.

OKAY.

I HAVE A COUPLE STATEMENTS TO MAKE.

FIRST OF ALL, PEOPLE ARE TIRED OF BEING ASKED TO KEEP EVERYBODY'S DOING THIS.

YOU GO TO PIGGLY WIGGLY, YOU GO TO ALL THESE DIFFERENT EVENTS OR YOU KNOW, IF YOU ROUND UP, ROUND UP AND A LOT OF PEOPLE ARE GETTING A LITTLE, UM, TIRED OF IT, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE EVERYWHERE THEY'RE GOING, IT'S THE SAME THING.

ALSO.

UM, THIS IS NOT THE ONLY THING THAT'S BEING, UM, AFFECTED.

A LOT OF YOUR BROUGHT FRIES AND, YOU KNOW, FROM THE LION'S EVENT ARE ALSO FINANCIALLY, UM, NOT AS MUCH AS COMING IN THROUGH A LOT OF THEIR, UM, BROAD FRIES.

THE, UH, VFWI CAN CONTINUE ON WITH A LOT OF THESE.

SO MANY PEOPLE ARE DOING THIS ALSO.

AND I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S JUST BECAUSE THE BREWERS ARE GOING ON AND PEOPLE ARE SPENDING MORE MONEY DOWN BY THE BREWERS, YOU KNOW, BUT I JUST THINK THAT MAYBE THERE'S A DIFFERENT WAY WE CAN GO ABOUT THIS.

YOU KNOW, I, I THINK THIS IS A GREAT EVENT, BUT I DON'T KNOW IF, IF, I THINK OTHER PEOPLE OUTSIDE OF THE GOLF COMMUNITY MIGHT STILL WANNA GET INVOLVED WITH THIS, BUT DON'T KNOW MUCH ABOUT, YOU KNOW, THE NEXT GEN IS IT? NO, IT'S NOT.

WHAT'S IT CALLED? UH, GEN UH, 18, NEXT 18, NEXT 18.

THERE'S SO MANY DIFFERENT, BUT ANYWAY, SO THIS IS JUST MY OPINION AND FROM OTHER PEOPLE TOO.

THANK YOU.

ANYBODY ELSE? SUPERVISOR? MARY? I WOULD SHARE THAT SENTIMENT.

I DON'T THINK THE COUNTY NEEDS TO BE INVOLVED IN THIS, THAT

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SORT OF ACTIVITY TO ROUND UP, LIKE YOU SAY YOU GO TO CIX ANYWHERE ELSE, ROUND IT UP, ROUND IT UP, ROUND IT UP.

BUT I, I DON'T BELIEVE THIS IS A NECESSITY FOR THE COUNTY.

RIGHT.

I REALLY DON'T, I JUST DON'T THINK IT FITS WITH WHAT THE COUNTY IS MISSION, WHATEVER YOU WANT TO CALL IT JUST DOESN'T SEEM RIGHT TO ME.

BUT THAT'S PERSONAL REFLECTION.

THANK YOU SUPERVISOR CONRAD, YOU WANNA WEIGH IN ON THAT? YEAH, WELL I WAS, I WAS GUESS MAYBE THINKING A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT AND IN THE, THE QUALITY WORLD THAT I LIVED, WHEN, YOU KNOW, YOU PILOT SOMETHING, IT'S KIND OF LIKE THE FIRST STEP OF A PLAN, DO STUDY ACT, RIGHT? YOU, YOU KNOW, IT'S THE PILOT, IT'S THE INITIAL TRIAL YOU TAKE THE LESSONS LEARNED AND YOU KNOW, NORMALLY UNLESS IT'S A COMPLETE FAIL, YOU, YOU KNOW, YOU CHANGE THINGS UP A LITTLE BIT.

LIKE YOU TALKED OF MAYBE SCRIPTING OR JUST ADJUSTING THINGS A LITTLE BIT OR LOOKING AT THE ONLINE INDIVIDUALS, BUT YOU TAKE THOSE LESSONS LEARNED FROM THE FIRST PILOT, THE FIRST TRIAL AND UM, YOU KNOW, AND DO A SECOND PHASE OF IT, OF YOUR QUALITY PROJECT.

UM, BUT YEAH, YOU KNOW, EVERYBODY IS, YOU KNOW, ROUNDING UP.

BUT I, I HAVE, I THINK THAT'S NICE.

I DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM WITH IT.

I THINK IT'S A, A EASY, YOU KNOW, SIMPLE WAY TO, YOU KNOW, TO GIVE BACK AND IF YOU HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY IF YOU WANT TO OR NOT, IT'S, UM, BUT I THINK IT'S AN EXCELLENT CAUSE.

SO I'M KIND OF DOING A, YOU KNOW, HAVING A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT VIEW.

LIKE IF YOU WOULD, UM, SAY CONTINUE THIS OR DO IT DIFFERENT, YOU, YOU KNOW, SPOKE OF KIND OF MAYBE LIKE SCRIPTING WITH THE, THE STAFF THERE OR LIKE I SAID, FOCUSING ON LIKE THE ONLINE, UM, INDIVIDUALS A LITTLE BIT MORE OR HAVE YOU THOUGHT MAYBE SOME DIFFERENT STRATEGIES IF YOU WOULD KIND OF DO LIKE A SECOND PHASE OF THIS? YEAH, I MEAN I THINK ALL OF THOSE THINGS ARE, THAT WOULD BE PRUDENT IF WE WERE TO CONTINUE TO, YOU KNOW, I THINK OUR NEXT STEP WOULD LIKELY BE, UM, FIGURING THAT IN ADDITION TO FIGURING OUT A PROCESS FOR HOW WE SELECT THE ORGANIZATIONS AND WHAT TYPES OF ORGANIZATIONS GET SELECTED FOR THE SEASON, UM, IN A KIND OF A MORE, UM, FAIR WAY.

UM, SO THAT THERE'S OPTIONS FOR, UM, VARIOUS ORGANIZATIONS THAT HAVE ASKED ABOUT IT.

SO WE HAVE HAD SEVERAL INQUIRIES OUT THERE ABOUT, YOU KNOW, HOW DO WE BECOME THAT ORGANIZATION MM-HMM .

SO, UM, THAT'S AN ONGOING CHALLENGE IS, OR THAT'S ANOTHER CHALLENGE THAT WOULD BE OUT THERE.

AND THAT WAS KIND OF THE TARGET OF QUESTION FIVE IN THE SURVEY OF, YOU KNOW, IF, IF THE PROGRAM DOES OCCUR, WHAT ARE THE TYPES OF THINGS YOU MIGHT BE LOOKING TO DO? UM, BUT YES, ALL OF THAT, I MEAN, I THINK THAT IS IS THE POINT AT SOME POINT.

AND IT COULD, YOU KNOW, AT ANY TIME IF WE CHOOSE TO MOVE FORWARD WITH KIND OF A SECOND ROUND OF A PILOT, I THINK THAT THOSE WOULD ALL BE GREAT SUGGESTIONS.

MM-HMM .

YEAH.

IT SEEMS LIKE THERE'S, YOU KNOW, A STRONG, UM, THEME ABOUT YOUTH SUPPORTING, YOUTH SUPPORTING THE GROWTH OF THE GAME.

YOU KNOW, MAYBE WE DO A SECOND TRIAL, YOU KNOW, WITH THAT TYPE OF FOCUS.

BUT I WOULD BE SUPPORTIVE AT LEAST, YOU KNOW, TRYING IT ONE MORE TIME.

I DON'T THINK IT WAS, YOU KNOW, COMPLETE FAIL.

UM, YOU KNOW, IT WAS A PILOT, IT WAS HOW YOU START.

VERY GOOD.

UH, SUPERVISOR KREBS CARE TO WEIGH IN.

SURE.

I'M NEUTRAL ON IT.

UM, I'M BOMBARDED AND HIT UP, HIT WITH ROUNDUP AND WOULD YOU LIKE TO TIP OPTIONS ON CHECKOUTS EVERYWHERE? AND SO I THINK IN GENERAL, SOCIETY'S JUST IMMUNE TO SOME OF THIS STUFF.

UM, QUITE FRANKLY, I WOULD BE MORE ANNOYED TO LIKE, WITH LIKE A SCRIPT BECAUSE THAT'S LIKE EVEN MORE PUTTING IT IN THE CUSTOMER'S FACE AND I WOULD PERSONALLY BE LESS LIKELY TO DONATE THEN.

UM, BECAUSE THERE'S, IT'S JUST EVERYWHERE YOU TURN.

SOMEONE WANTS EXTRA MONEY FOR SOMETHING, BUT I'M NOT AGAINST IT.

AND BECAUSE THERE'S PEOPLE THAT ARE GONNA DONATE AND TO STUFF LIKE THIS AND THE PEOPLE ARE THERE GOING ARE GONNA DO THAT, ARE ALWAYS GONNA DO IT.

THE PEOPLE THAT AREN'T GONNA DO IT, THEY'RE NEVER GONNA DO IT.

SO I DON'T THINK IT WAS A, A FAILURE EITHER.

2,500 BUCKS.

YEAH.

2,500 BUCKS.

LIKE IT'S DEFINITELY SOMETHING.

SO I'D BE FINE WITH IT, BUT I WOULD PERSONALLY PREFER IF IT'S NOT SO PUSHED, LIKE AT EVERY TRANSACTION, EVERY SALE.

LIKE MAKE IT SOMETHING

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SIMPLE ON A SCREEN THAT YOU CAN EITHER JUST SAY YES OR NO AND MOVE ON FROM IT VERSUS HAVING TO MAKE THE AWKWARD CONVERSATION AND PEOPLE MAKING DECISIONS, YOU KNOW, TO, TO GET TO WHAT THEY WANT TO DO OR, OR THEREFORE, WHICH IS THE GOLF OR YOU KNOW, THE SERVICE, WHATEVER IT IS.

SO I WOULDN'T, I'M, I'M NOT AGAINST IT, BUT NOT A CHEERLEADER OF IT EITHER.

VERY GOOD.

ANYBODY ELSE? IT'S THE DOOR KNOCKER.

JUST, UH, FROM PAST EXPERIENCES WITH THE LIONS AND STUFF, IF YOU GOT A PURPOSE FOR IT AND YOU GOT A TIP JAR THERE, IT'S SURPRISING WHAT PEOPLE PUT IN THERE IF YOU GOT, IF THEY KNOW WHERE IT'S GOING AND, UH, IT'S, I MEAN, THEY'RE FREE WITHOUT ASKING JUST THE JAR THERE, BUT I'M ASKING, JUST PUTTING, PUTTING IT IN THERE.

BIGGEST TIPS THERE I THINK IS, YOU KNOW, YOU DON'T HAVE TO PRESSURE OF ASKING, WELL, YOU WANT TO, I KNOW YOU GO A LOT OF PLACES DO YOU WANT TO ROUND UP, BUT HERE YOU JUST GOT A TIP JAR OF A LOT OF PEOPLE.

JUST WHATEVER CHANGE THEY GOT, THEY THROW IN THERE.

YEAH.

THANK YOU FOR THAT FEEDBACK.

THAT'S EXCELLENT.

BECAUSE I DO YOU DO ASK, DO, DID PEOPLE KNOW WHAT NEXT 18 IS COMPARED TO IF IT WAS HARTFORD BOYS GOLF OR SOMETHING VERY SIMPLE THAT THEY WOULD SAY THEY, THEY MIGHT RESPOND DIFFERENTLY.

YEAH.

UH, SUPERVISOR MARY, I THOUGHT IT WAS INTERESTING THAT ONE COMMENT THE GENTLEMAN HAD ABOUT THE, THE BEER CAR GIRL COMING TOO CLOSE WHEN HE WAS PUTTING .

I READ THAT.

YEAH.

WAS THAT YOU? YES.

UM, THERE WERE A NUMBER OF COMMENTS IN THERE THAT WE DID GO THROUGH AND TAKE THAT FEEDBACK.

SO, YOU KNOW, WHEN YOU DO A SURVEY OF ANY SORT AND PEOPLE JUST SEE IT AS AN OPPORTUNITY TO TELL US SOMETHING THEY WANT US TO KNOW.

IT WAS A GOOD SURVEY ABOUT AERATION OR PRICES.

UM, SO WE DID ACTUALLY GO THROUGH THE COMMENTS AND SHARE THEM ALL WITH THE STAFF THAT WERE NOT RELATED TO THE ROUNDUP.

UM, BUT THERE WERE SOME, SOME GOOD ONES IN THERE.

, IT WAS ENTERTAINING ANYWAYS.

YEAH, SUPERVISOR KREBS, I WAS GONNA SAY, I PRETTY SURE IT'S THAT SAME RESPONDENT ALSO REFERS TO HOW PEOPLE NEED TO READ THE RULES OF GOLF.

YES.

LIKE THAT SOUNDS LIKE THE PERSON THAT IS PROBABLY FUN TO GOLF WITH, PLACE YOUR DIVOT.

BUT TO, TO ADD ON TO, ON RALPH'S COMMENT THOUGH, LIKE OTHER, OTHER, UH, HE TO JOIN THE COUNTRY CLUB, LIKE AT THE COUNTY FAIR, I DID VOLUNTEERING FOR BARTENDING THIS YEAR.

AND THE SECOND PEOPLE KNOW WHAT THE FUNDRAISER IS FOR MM-HMM .

THEY'RE THE GIVING, THAT'S WHEN THE GIVING OPENS UP AND THEY'RE WILLING TO JUST DONATE TO THE CAUSE RIGHT AWAY.

SO HAVING A CLEAR MESSAGE WITH THAT DEFINITELY DOES HELP WHERE THEY KNOW THAT IT'S GOING SOMEWHERE VERSUS TO, TO THIS, YOU KNOW, TO THE BUILDING PROJECT .

YEAH.

PUT, PUT A NAME OR A FACE ON SOMETHING DEFINITELY HELPS.

YEAH.

I, UM, BUT I GUESS JUST LIKE TO NOTE THAT, YOU KNOW, YOU LOOK AT THE SURVEY, UH, IN ALL MY YEARS IN CUSTOMER SERVICE, UH, PEOPLE TEND TO FOCUS ON THE NEGATIVE.

AND, AND PART OF THIS IS WE LOOK AT THE SURVEY RESULTS AND THE VERY STRONG NEGATIVE POSITIONS THAT SOME OF THESE PEOPLE HAVE TEND TO KIND OF TAKE OVER THE WEIGHT OF THIS.

BUT YOU NEED TO ALSO REALLY THEN LOOK AT THE WHOLE NUMBERS AND UNDERSTAND THAT ACTUALLY NO MORE PEOPLE SUPPORTED THIS THAN ACTUALLY WERE NEGATIVE AGAINST IT.

UM, SO CONSIDERING THAT FACT, UH, YOU KNOW, I, I DO BELIEVE THAT MAYBE NEXT 18 IS JUST NOT WELL KNOWN ENOUGH TO PEOPLE, UM, THAT I WAS AT PIGGLY WIGGLY AND THEY ASKED ME IF THEY, IF I WANNA ROUND UP THERE EVERY TIME I GO THERE AND THAT'S FINE.

I, YOU KNOW, MOST TIMES I DON'T.

BUT ONE TIME YOU'RE LIKE, WELL WE'RE ROUNDING UP FOR CARL'S PLACE.

I'M LIKE, I LOVE CARL'S PLACE.

THAT'S A GREAT, YEAH.

OKAY, I'LL ROUND UP.

I, YOU KNOW, 'CAUSE I KNEW THE CHARITY, I UNDERSTOOD IT.

I MEAN, WE WORK WITH IT WITH THE COUNTY, SO IT'S LIKE, YES, THAT'S A GREAT ONE FOR ME.

UM, AND THAT MIGHT BE THE CASE IF WE DECIDE TO MOVE THIS GOING FORWARD WHERE YOU SAY, YEAH, UH, HARTFORD HIGH SCHOOL YOUTH BOYS GOLF OR GIRLS GOLF OR WHOEVER, YOU KNOW, SOMETHING THAT'S PROBABLY A LITTLE BIT MORE EASILY AND UNDERSTANDABLE AND RELATABLE MIGHT ACTUALLY DO BETTER.

UM, AND I'M NOT SURE HOW A TIP JAR WOULD NECESSARILY WORK BECAUSE THOSE ARE KIND OF FRAUGHT WITH A LITTLE BIT OF PROBLEM BECAUSE YOU'RE, YOU'RE TALKING CASH ON HAND AND WHATNOT.

BUT I MEAN, CERTAINLY SOMETHING THAT, YOU KNOW, UH, THEY CAN LOOK AT OUT, OUT THERE I GUESS.

BUT THE WHOLE IDEA IS THAT IT IS A PILOT PROGRAM.

IT WAS SOMETHING THAT WE JUST TRIED, UM, TO TAKE A LOOK AT IT AND SEE HOW IT WENT.

AND I THINK OVERALL A LITTLE BIT MIXED, BUT SOMEWHAT POSITIVE.

YEAH, WE LEARN, I THINK WE DEFINITELY LEARN FROM IT.

AND I THINK, UM, FOR NOW, KIND OF LAY IT OUT THERE AND, AND LEAVE IT UP TO STAFF TO SEE WHERE THEY WISH TO

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PROCEED WITH IT.

UM, YOU KNOW, IF IT'S SOMETHING WE WANT TO TRY AND MAYBE PURSUE IN THE FUTURE.

I MEAN, WE DON'T NEED TO HAVE ANYTHING RIGHT NOW AND I DON'T WANT TO NECESSARILY KILL IT, BUT I DON'T WANT TO NECESSARILY GO AFTER, YOU KNOW, DOING SOMETHING ELSE RIGHT AWAY.

BUT MAYBE KIND OF TAKE WHAT WE'VE LEARNED BACK TO THE DRAWING BOARD AND LOOK AT IT AND, UH, MAYBE CONSIDER WHAT WE MIGHT WANT TO DO NEXT YEAR.

SO, UH, DID YOU WANT TO SPEAK, UH, MR. CHAIRMAN? GO AHEAD.

UM, I AGREE WITH ALL OF THESE COMMENTS.

YOU KNOW, THE ROUNDING UP PROBABLY HAS GONE TOO FAR, BUT GENERALLY WHEN I'M ASKED TO ROUND UP, IF I DON'T FEEL LIKE IT, I SAY NO AND IT'S NO BIG DEAL.

UM, BUT THE NEXT 18 IT'S COMPLICATED BECAUSE IF YOU KNOW ANYBODY THAT'S BEEN IN INVOLVED WITH NEXT 18, IT'S AN AWESOME PROGRAM AND IT'S A MENTAL HEALTH THING THAT WE REALLY NEED A LOT OF HELP WITH THAT NOWADAYS.

SO FROM THAT END, I SUPPORT IT, BUT ALL THE COMMENTS WERE GOOD.

AND IF, IF WE DON'T HAVE ALL THE INFORMATION FOR NEXT 18 OUT THERE, IT'S HARD.

SO I WAS JUST THINKING ABOUT THIS, WAS THIS EVER TALKED ABOUT ON LIKE ON WTKM, THEY ALWAYS HAVE LIKE A SPECIAL IN THE MORNING AND THIS WOULD BE GREAT TO EXPLAIN WHAT NEXT, UM, THIS, UH, 18 IS ALL ABOUT MM-HMM .

AND I THINK WE GET MORE PEOPLE INVOLVED.

YEAH.

AND, AND I WILL JUST, I, I GUESS KINDA CLOSING REMARKS ON THIS CONVERSATION.

THIS IS ALL VERY GOOD FEEDBACK.

I'LL PROBABLY GO BACK AND LISTEN TO IT, UM, BECAUSE I THINK IT IS EXCELLENT AS WE THINK ABOUT HOW WE WANNA MOVE FORWARD.

UM, AT THIS POINT THIS SEASON, UM, WE ARE GOING INTO CONSTRUCTION.

UM, BIDS COME BACK OCTOBER 21ST AND WE'RE LOOKING AT PLANNING A LARGE EVENT IN EARLY JUNE TO, UM, OPEN THE NEW EXPANSION AT THE GOLF COURSE.

AND SO WE MIGHT, UM, REFOCUS SOME OF OUR OFF SEASON ENERGY INTO SOME OF THOSE INITIATIVES RATHER THAN, UM, BUILDING OUT KIND OF THE PROCESS OR THE PROGRAM TWEAKS.

UM, BUT THIS IS A CONVERSATION THAT I THINK WE CAN, UM, CONTINUE TO HAVE, UM, PARTICULARLY AS WE ARE OUT THERE MORE AND WE THINK ABOUT THIS.

SO, UM, ENCOURAGE EVERYBODY TO KEEP THINKING ABOUT IT AND SHARE ANY FEEDBACK.

UM, AND WE'LL DO THE SAME.

AND, AND APPRECIATE THOSE COMMENTS.

I THINK THEY WERE VERY, VERY GOOD.

ANY OTHER COMMENTS ON THIS PARTICULAR ITEM? NO, NO.

THANK YOU FOR TRYING.

ALL RIGHT.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH, JAMIE FOR THAT.

UH, WITH THAT, THAT BRINGS US TO THE END OF OUR MEETING.

THE, UH, NEXT MEETING DATE IS NOVEMBER 20TH AT 20 25, 4 30 RIGHT HERE.

LOOKING FORWARD TO SEEING YOU, THEN THIS MEETING'S ADJOURNED.

THANK YOU.

BRING YOUR TRICKY LEGS.

NOVEMBER 20TH NEXT MONTH.

THAT'S GONNA BE SO SHORT.