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          AFTERNOON, IT'S FOUR O'CLOCK. 
          WE'LL CALL THE PUBLIC SAFETY COMMITTEE MEETING TO ORDER. 
          WE HAVE ALL COMMITTEE MEMBERS PRESENT. 
          THIS AGENDA WAS POSTED IN THE OFFICE OF THE COUNTY CLERK ON THE 28TH DAY OF AUGUST, 2026. 
          NOTICE WAS SENT TO THE WASHINGTON COUNTY DAILY NEWS EXPRESS NEWS, W-I-B-D-W-M-B-Z RADIO, WTKM RADIO, MY COMMUNITY. 
          NOW HARTFORD TIMES PRESS, KIOSKI STATESMAN, MILWAUKEE JOURNAL SENTINEL. 
          PLEASE JOIN ME IN FOR A MOMENT OF SILENT PRAYER. 
          IN THE PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE, I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, I TWO REPUBLIC, WHICH STANDS ONE NATION 
          [Call to Order, Roll Call, Affidavit of Posting, A Moment of Silent Prayer, and Pledge of Allegiance]
UNDER GOD IN HIS WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE THRONE. 
          UH, JUST A REMINDER THAT WE ARE, UH, STREAMING AND RECORDING THIS, UH, MEETING. 
          SO PLEASE SILENCE YOUR PHONES. 
          UH, THE FIRST ITEM ON THE AGENDA IS THE MINUTES FROM JULY 29TH MEETING AND THE AUGUST 19TH MEETING. 
          ANY COMMITTEE MEMBERS HAVE ANY CHANGES? SEEING NONE WILL ACCEPT THOSE MINUTES AS PRESENTED. 
          THE NEXT ITEM ON THE AGENDA IS DISCUSSION ON WASHINGTON COUNTY EMS SYSTEM. 
          UM, THIS MEETING IS TO SERVE AS A CONTINUATION OF DISCUSSION, DISCUSSION SURROUNDING THE EMS PROPOSAL. 
          UH, TODAY WE'RE GONNA LOOK AT A SP A FEW SPECIFIC, UH, ITEMS. UH, THOSE WOULD BE, UH, A REPORT FROM THE LISTENING SESSIONS THAT WE HAD LAST WEEK, A FEW FINANCIAL PROPOSAL BREAKDOWN NUMBERS, A LIST OF SPECIFIC SMART GOALS, A DISCUSSION ON A POSSIBLE OPT-OUT CLAUSE THAT WILL BE INCLUDED IN THE RESOLUTION, UH, INCLUDING IN THIS PACKET THAT WE RECEIVED. 
          IS THE TABLE SHOWING EACH MUNICIPALITY'S DISTRIBUTION UNDER THE CURRENT PROPOSAL? I WILL TURN IT OVER TO EXECUTIVE SHOWMAN, START THE PRESENTATION. 
          THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN. 
          WELL, THANK YOU COMMITTEE MEMBERS. 
          AND, UM, AS THE CHAIRMAN MENTIONED, WE HAVE A NUMBER OF ITEMS THAT WE'D LIKE, UH, YOU TO CONTEMPLATE TODAY, UH, BUT TO GIVE YOU SOME CONTEXT ABOUT WHAT HAS HAPPENED. 
          AND, AND YOU MAY RECALL FROM OUR LAST, UH, CONVERSATION, YOUR LAST MEETING, WE TALKED ABOUT COMING BACK HERE WITH THIS SPECIAL MEETING SPECIFICALLY, UM, TO DOWNLOAD THE INFORMATION THAT CAME OUT OF, UH, OUR LISTENING SESSIONS AND OUR TOWN HALL MEETINGS. 
          FOR THOSE OF YOU WHO WERE THERE, UH, WHO WERE NOT THERE, RATHER, UM, WE SPECIFICALLY DEDICATED THESE LISTENING, THESE FIVE LISTENING SESSIONS TO EMS AND EMS ONLY. 
          UH, I WANT TO TAKE THE OPPORTUNITY TO THANK ALL OF, UH, THE MUNICIPAL AND DEPARTMENT OFFICIALS, UH, THAT ATTENDED AND HELPED TO FACILITATE THE CONVERSATION. 
          UM, PROBABLY TWO THIRDS OF THE DISCUSSION WERE ACTUALLY THEM 
          [a. Discussion – Washington County Countywide EMS System]
PRESENTING, UH, WHETHER IT WAS A REPRESENTATIVE FROM A FIRE DEPARTMENT OR A MUNICIPALITY CHIEF ELECTED OFFICIAL OR ADMINISTRATOR. 
          UM, SOME OF THEM ARE HERE TONIGHT, SOME OF THEM ARE NOT. 
          UH, BUT I WANT TO THANK THEM ALL FOR, FOR THEIR HELP. 
          UM, AS I'VE SAID, ON A MULTITUDE OF OCCASIONS, UM, DAVE AND I HAVE CERTAINLY HELPED TO NAVIGATE AND GUIDE, UH, AND FRAME, UM, WHAT WE THOUGHT WAS THE PROPOSAL THAT WOULD BE PALATABLE FOR YOU TO CONSIDER. 
          BUT BY EVERY STRETCH OF THE IMAGINATION, THIS PROPOSAL IS A COMPILATION OF THE CHIEFS AND THE CHIEF ELECTED OFFICIALS WORKING TOGETHER. 
          UM, AND HOPEFULLY WE'RE, WE'RE VERY CLOSE. 
          AND, AND I THINK WHAT YOU'LL HEAR IN A FEW MINUTES, UH, AS WE DISCUSS THE, UM, 
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LISTENING SESSIONS, UH, OUR COMMUNITY MEMBERS CERTAINLY FEEL THAT WAY. 
          UM, THE FIRST, I, I WOULD SAY THE, THE HIGHLIGHT OF THE DISCUSSION, UH, FROM MY VANTAGE POINT, AND I, I DON'T KNOW IF ALL OF YOU HAVE BEEN TO MY LISTENING SESSIONS IN THE PAST. 
          UH, AS YOU KNOW, WE DO THEM QUARTERLY. 
          GENERALLY, IT'S MORE OF A, UH, UM, KIND OF A ROUND TABLE, UH, TYPE OF DISCUSSION. 
          UM, BUT THE ATTENDANCE, I WOULD SAY TYPICALLY FOR THE FIVE SESSIONS IS SOMEWHERE BETWEEN 50 AND A HUNDRED. 
          THIS ROUND OF SESSIONS, VERY INTERESTINGLY, WAS NO DIFFERENT FOR ALL OF THE DISCUSSION AND THE DEBATE AND THE BLOGGING AND THE SOCIAL MEDIA POSTS. 
          UM, I, WE WERE ALL CERTAINLY ANTICIPATING, UH, DROVES OF PEOPLE, UH, CERTAINLY IN THE HUNDREDS. 
          UM, BUT BASED ON OUR ESTIMATE, YOU CAN READ AND, AND THE REPORT THAT, UH, OUR TEAM PUT TOGETHER, UM, THERE WAS, WE ESTIMATE ABOUT 70 PEOPLE THAT WERE NOT, NOT CONNECTED TO EITHER A DEPARTMENT, UH, OR A MUNICIPALITY, UM, OR, OR GOVERNMENT UNIT, I SHOULD SAY, OF SOME KIND. 
          WE DID HAVE FEDERAL, STATE, LOCAL, UH, AND COUNTY GOVERNMENT FOLKS THERE. 
          UM, SO THAT, THAT SPEAKS VOLUMES. 
          I THINK. 
          UM, YOU, YOU ALL HAVE BEEN IN THIS GAME LONG ENOUGH TO KNOW WHEN PEOPLE ARE VERY UPSET OR CONCERNED OR HAVE QUESTIONS, UH, THEY AREN'T AFRAID TO PACK A ROOM, UH, EVIDENCED THAT BY U-W-M-W-C OR SAMARITAN OR, UH, SOME OF THE OTHER, UM, HOTLY CONTESTED SUBJECT MATTER IN THIS PARTICULAR CASE, UH, THAT JUST WASN'T WHAT HAPPENED TO BE, WE THOUGHT IT WOULD BE, AND IT WASN'T QUITE IT. 
          UM, AS IMPORTANT OR MORE IMPORTANT THAN THAT, UH, WAS THE DIALOGUE THAT OCCURRED. 
          AND AS THE DIFFERENT AREA EXPERTS GAVE THEIR PRESENTATIONS, UM, YOU COULD QUITE LITERALLY SEE PEOPLE COME IN WITH A LITTLE BIT OF EDGE ON THEIR SEAT. 
          UM, SOME, SOME REAL CONCERN MAYBE. 
          AND AS THE DISCUSSION WENT FARTHER AND FARTHER ALONG, UM, THAT REALLY WAXED, UH, TO THE POINT WHERE IF YOU LOOK AT THE HANDOUT THAT WE'VE PROVIDED, UH, THAT STAFF PUT TOGETHER, UM, THE, THE PLURALITY OF ANSWERS WERE JUST LEAVE IT HOW IT IS. 
          UH, AND THAT WAS AFTER I HAD SAID, OUR GOAL IS TO GET IT TO TAX RATE NEUTRAL. 
          AS A MATTER OF FACT, IN THE TOWN OF WEST BEND, UM, WE WERE AT A LISTENING SESSION, UM, WITH, I CAN'T REMEMBER THE INDIVIDUAL'S NAME, UM, BUT, UH, A COUPLE OF THEM SPOKE UP AND SAY, IT'S $16 ON A $400,000 HOUSE. 
          JUST DO IT. 
          UM, SO OBVIOUSLY THAT'S NOT WHAT I'M PROPOSING. 
          YOU'RE GONNA SEE IN A FEW MINUTES. 
          UM, WE'RE STILL GONNA SHOOT FOR THAT TAX RATE NEUTRAL, UM, LIKE SUPERVISOR PRIDE MOORE HAD REALLY, UH, MENTIONED AT THE LAST MEETING. 
          UM, BUT I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO KNOW ONCE THEY HAVE ALL THE INFORMATION, UH, AS YOU, AS ELECTED REPRESENTATIVES DO, UH, THE ATTITUDES WERE VERY MUCH A, IT'S A GREAT PROPOSAL. 
          DO WHAT YOU GOTTA DO, AND B UM, YOU'LL, YOU'LL NOTICE IN THAT SAME REPORT, UH, THE ONE THING THEY PUT KIND OF THE RED DOT ON WAS, YOU CAN'T DO NOTHING. 
          YOU MUST DO SOMETHING. 
          UM, SO I, I THINK THAT'S, THOSE TWO THINGS, UH, REALLY SPEAK VOLUMES. 
          EVEN SOME OF THE FOLKS WHO, WHO STILL HAD SOME CONCERNS TOWARDS THE END, UH, REALLY PROBABLY THE BEST QUOTE OF THE WHOLE, UH, FIVE SESSIONS, UH, WAS WHEN ONE PERSON WHO I KNOW IS, HAS GOT SOME CONCERNS TO THIS DAY, SAID, LOOK, IT'S NOT THE PROPOSAL. 
          I ACTUALLY THINK THE PROPOSALS ARE PRETTY GOOD. 
          IT'S THE PROCESS I'M CONCERNED ABOUT. 
          UM, IN, IN THIS, IN THIS BUSINESS, AS YOU ALL KNOW, ONCE YOU'RE DEBATING PROCESS, UM, YOU'RE ON THE WRONG SIDE OF AN ISSUE. 
          SO, UH, I THINK, I THINK WE HAVE A PROPOSAL THAT IS VERY WORKABLE. 
          WE STILL HAVE SOME WARM ROOM TO GO TODAY. 
          UM, AND I, I'M LOOKING FORWARD TO A DISCUSSION HERE WITH THE COMMITTEE ON THAT. 
          UM, BUT THOSE LISTENING SESSIONS, I DID EXACTLY WHAT WE WANTED THEM TO DO. 
          THEY GAVE, IT GAVE US, I THINK, A RESOUNDING, THIS IS THE DIRECTION THAT PEOPLE WASHINGTON COUNTY WANT. 
          UM, SOMETIMES YOU GET THAT BY PEOPLE SHOWING UP IN DROVES, AND SOMETIMES YOU GET THAT BECAUSE THEY SAY, JUST DO THE RIGHT THING. 
          AND I THINK WE'RE ON THE PATH TO DOING THE RIGHT THING. 
          UM, THERE'S A FEW, UM, MODIFICATIONS THAT WE'RE GOING TO TALK TO YOU ABOUT TODAY. 
          UH, EVEN FROM THE PROPOSAL THAT YOU HAD, UM, AT THE LAST MEETING. 
          UM, THEY'RE ALL RELATED TO THE THINGS YOU'VE ASKED US TO LOOK AT MODIFYING. 
          UM, BUT THOSE LISTENING SESSIONS HAVE CERTAINLY HELPED INFORM AND MAKE BETTER THE FINAL PROPOSAL THAT WE'RE GONNA TALK ABOUT IN JUST A FEW MINUTES. 
          UM, MR. CHAIRMAN, YOU WERE AT EVERY ONE, EVERY ONE OF THESE. 
          IF, IF YOU HAVE ANY OTHER FEEDBACK OR INPUT OR, OR IF THERE'S SOMEONE ELSE YOU'D LIKE TO TURN TO, PLEASE, MR. CHAIRMAN, I WOULD AGREE WITH YOU ON 100%. 
          I, I ATTENDED EVERY SESSION COMBINED, PROBABLY 10 OR 12 HOURS WORTH OF TIME LISTENING, TRYING TO OBSERVE AND ADHERING FEEDBACK AFTER THE LISTENING SESSION. 
          AND 
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I WOULD SAY, YOU'RE 100% CORRECT WHEN THE FEEDBACK AT THE END WAS, YOU KNOW, NOW I UNDERSTAND MORE. 
          I LIKE THIS IDEA. 
          UM, I'VE EVEN HEARD COMMENTS OF THIS IS VERY INNOVATIVE, UM, IN THE PARKING LOT, PARKING LOT CONVERSATIONS WITH PEOPLE THAT PROBABLY DIDN'T EVEN KNOW WHO I WAS, BUT JUST TRYING TO GET THAT FEEDBACK. 
          SO I DO AGREE, AND, AND, AND I WAS SURPRISED AS WELL THAT WE DIDN'T HAVE THE TURNOUT, UM, THAT I WAS EXPECTING. 
          UH, BUT I THINK IT WAS IMPORTANT. 
          IT GOT A LOT OF QUESTIONS ANSWERED, AND, UM, I THINK IT WAS A VERY POSITIVE OUTCOME IN THE END. 
          SO SUPERVISOR PRIMER, UM, I HAVE A QUESTION ABOUT THOSE, UM, MEETINGS. 
          I, I WASN'T ABLE TO MAKE IT 'CAUSE I HAD A BROKEN DOWN CAR AND ONE ISSUE AFTER ANOTHER, BUT I HAD A LOT OF CONSTITUENTS WHO WAS WONDERING, ARE YOU GONNA VISIT OTHER BIGGER TOWNSHIPS LIKE SLINGER AND GERMANTOWN? AND I FORGOT WHAT THE OTHER ONE WAS, BUT, UM, HART, I DON'T KNOW IF IT WAS HARTFORD, BUT ANYWAYS, THEY WERE JUST WONDERING, ARE YOU GONNA VISIT MORE THAN JUST, UH, FIVE TOWNS YOU VISITED? UM, I PERSONALLY, UM, WELL, WE GOT THAT QUESTION, UH, SEVERAL TIMES AT LISTENING SESSIONS. 
          I WILL SAY THAT, AND INTERESTINGLY, IT CAME FROM, UH, CONSTITUENTS WHO ARE FROM THE PLACES THAT YOU JUST LISTED. 
          UM, AND AS, AS I THINK YOU ALL KNOW, UM, WHETHER IT WAS SAMARITAN OR DWWC OR ANY OF THE CONTROVERSIAL ISSUES WE TAKE UP, UM, THEY'RE NOT AFRAID TO DRIVE 20 MINUTES IF THEY'RE, IF THEY REALLY FEEL STRONGLY. 
          AND THE, THAT WAS THE CASE IN THIS AS WELL. 
          THERE'S A, WELL, IT'S THE HOURS THOUGH, BECAUSE THESE ARE WORKING CLASS PEOPLE. 
          OH, NO, IT'S NOT THE HOURS. 
          IT'S NOT THE HOURS, BECAUSE WE HAD FIVE SESSIONS AND THEY WERE SPREAD OUT ALL THE WAY ACROSS FROM EARLY MORNING ALL THE WAY TO THE EVENING. 
          OKAY. 
          SO YOU HAD NO EVENING HOURS. 
          THAT'S NOT TRUE. 
          YOU HAD ONE AT FIVE O'CLOCK. 
          YES, WE HAD ONE AT FIVE O'CLOCK. 
          WELL, A LOT OF PEOPLE WORKED TILL FIVE THAT WENT, THAT PARTICULAR, WE HAD TWO AT FIVE, AND THEY ACTUALLY, BOTH OF THEM WENT UNTIL ALMOST 8:00 PM I THAT IT, THAT YOU WOULD'VE GONE TO A LITTLE MORE PLACES THAN JUST THE FIVE OR THE FEW LITTLE, UH, TOWNSHIPS THAT YOU WENT TO. 
          OKAY. 
          WE DISAGREE. 
          IT WOULD JUST MAKE MORE SENSE TO ME IF YOU'RE GONNA PROMOTE IT. 
          RIGHT. 
          ALSO, IT WAS, WELL, IT WASN'T A PROMOTION. 
          I MEAN, WE STARTED OFF ALMOST EVERY LISTENING SESSION SAYING, THIS IS INFORMATION DOWNLOADING TO YOU AND WE WANT YOUR FEEDBACK. 
          NO. 
          OKAY. 
          WELL, YOU KNOW, JUST, I WOULD SAY THAT THE FIRST, PROBABLY AT LEAST THE FIRST 45 MINUTES AT EACH SESSION WAS A LOT OF INFORMATION. 
          AND THEN IT WAS OPENING UP TO OPEN DIALOGUE WITH QUESTIONS. 
          UM, AND, AND SOME WENT WELL BEYOND, UH, THE, THE HOUR THAT WE WERE SCHEDULED, SO MM-HMM . 
          I KNOW, BUT IT'S NOT GONNA SAY THOSE THAT ATTENDED HAD THE OPPORTUNITY, YOU KNOW, TO ASK QUESTIONS AND GET THINGS CLARIFIED. 
          SO SUPERVISOR BOER, UM, YEAH. 
          SO I THINK BACK TO WHEN WE HAD THE, UH, P ISSUE, WHICH I KNOW JOSH REMEMBERS MM-HMM . 
          PEOPLE HAD NO PROBLEM DRIVING THE COUNTY FAIR PARK AND PACKING THAT BUILDING TO EXPRESS THEIR FRUSTRATION WITH, I THINK IT WAS ABOUT 500 OF THEM. 
          YEAH. 
          IF YOU LIVE IN GERMANTOWN AND YOU'RE REALLY FURIOUS ABOUT THIS, AND YOU CAN'T DRIVE UP TO THE TOWN OF JACKSON TOWN HALL, WHERE IF YOU LIVE IN SLINGER AND YOU'RE FURIOUS AND YOU CAN'T DRIVE OUT TO THE TOWN OF WEST BEND TOWN HALL FIVE MINUTES AWAY, YOU KNOW? YEAH. 
          THEY HAD FIVE SESSIONS. 
          THEY WERE SPREAD IN DIFFERENT AREAS OF THE COUNTY, AND THEY WERE IN SMALL COMMUNITIES. 
          THEY WEREN'T IN YOUR LARGER COMMUNITIES THAT ARE GONNA PAY THE BIG PRICE OF THIS, UH, POINT OF ORDER. 
          I BELIEVE I SUPERVISOR PRIDE MORE. 
          OH, THAT'S RIGHT. 
          SUPERVISOR ER HAS FLOOR. 
          THANK YOU. 
          I'M SORRY. 
          BUT, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE SPREAD OUT ALL THROUGHOUT THE COUNTY. 
          SO PEOPLE HAD ONE THAT WAS RELATIVELY CLOSE BY. 
          I KNOW THERE'S PEOPLE THAT WANTED TO QUIBBLE ABOUT WHERE THEY WERE LOCATED. 
          SOMEBODY CLAIMED THE CITY OF WEST BEND HAD TWO, ACTUALLY, THE CITY OF WEST BEND HAD NONE, AND I'M FINE WITH THAT. 
          I DROVE TO THE ONE THAT WAS AT THE, UH, TOWN OF JACKSON. 
          I HAD NO PROBLEM MAKING THAT DRIVE. 
          AND I FELT IT WAS VERY INFORMATIVE TO SEE WHAT THE PUBLIC THOUGHT, IF YOU WANNA QUIBBLE ABOUT WHERE THEY ARE. 
          YEAH. 
          I JUST, I THINK IT'S, I THINK IT'S A WASTE OF TIME, HONESTLY. 
          OKAY. 
          THERE WAS PLENTY OF OPPORTUNITY FOR THE PUBLIC TO VOICE THEIR CONCERNS. 
          THANK YOU. 
          UM, YOU WANNA MOVE ON TO THE NEXT ITEM? SURE. 
          UM, THE PRESENTATION IS THAT WHAT'S NEXT? OKAY. 
          UM, SO WE HAVE PUT A PRESENTATION TOGETHER FOR YOU, UH, FOLLOWING THE LISTENING SESSIONS. 
          WE HAD SCHEDULED, SIMILAR TO YOUR REQUEST HERE TO HAVE A SPECIAL MEETING. 
          THE CHIEF ELECTED OFFICIALS ALSO, UH, WANTED TO HAVE A DOWNLOAD, UH, AND, AND REALLY TALK ABOUT WHAT NEEDS TO BE TIGHTENED UP IN ORDER TO, UH, BRING THIS TO A, TO A CONCLUSION AND TO A VOTE, UH, AT YOUR COMMITTEE AND THE COUNTY BOARD. 
          UM, THIS IS JUST A REFRESHER ON THE OBJECTIVES THAT WE STARTED WITH. 
          UM, AT THE END, I, I'LL I'LL SHOW YOU THE, THESE 
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ARE ALL OF COURSE, ACCOMPLISHED, UH, BY THIS PROPOSAL. 
          AND THEN WE ADDED WHAT YOU HAVE BEEN AND THE COUNTY BOARD HAS BEEN TALKING ABOUT NOW, UH, FOR THE LAST SEVERAL MONTHS, UH, RELATED TO SHARED SERVICES AND COOPERATION. 
          AND YOU'LL SEE THAT REFLECTED IN JUST A FEW MINUTES. 
          UM, SO THIS IS THE ORIGINAL PROPOSAL. 
          UM, WE, WE RECAPPED IT. 
          UH, A LOT OF THE CHIEF ELECTED OFFICIALS DID NOT GET A CHANCE TO WATCH YOUR LAST MEETING WHERE YOU CHANGED A NUMBER OF THESE THINGS. 
          SO JUST A, JUST A QUICK REFRESHER AND, YOU KNOW, IN YOUR DOCUMENTS, IT'S A LITTLE BIT EASIER IF YOU TOGGLE BACK AND FORTH BETWEEN THE ORIGINAL PROPOSAL AND, AND WHAT HAS BEEN CHANGED BY YOU AT THE PUBLIC SAFETY COMMITTEE LEVEL ALREADY. 
          AND SO, UM, THE, THE NEXT SLIDE ACTUALLY IS WHAT YOU'VE ALREADY DISCUSSED. 
          SO WE HIGHLIGHT SPECIFICALLY THE THINGS THAT YOU'VE ASKED FOR, UM, THAT NEED TO BE CHANGED. 
          UH, SO THE, THE CHIEF ELECTEDS WERE INFORMED WE'RE REMOVING THE ADMINISTRATIVE FEE. 
          I COMMUNICATED THAT AT EVERY LISTENING SESSION. 
          AND ONE OF THE BIG TAKEAWAYS, THE BIG ASKS THAT WE HAD FROM CONSTITUENTS WERE, HOW DO YOU, HOW DO WE HELP GET THIS THING TO TAX RATE NEUTRAL? UM, AND SO THAT, THAT IS WHAT YOU'RE GONNA SEE IN JUST A SECOND. 
          UM, IT ALSO REFLECTS THE TIME LENGTH, UH, CHANGE THAT YOU REQUESTED, UH, INSTEAD OF AN EIGHT YEAR CONTRACT, A FIVE YEAR CONTRACT, AND THEN HOW THOSE ANNUAL INCREASES WOULD WORK. 
          UM, YOU RECALL, UH, THE, YOUR COMMITTEE WILL ACTUALLY HAVE SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF AUTHORITY FROM 2% TO 6%. 
          UM, THE COUNTY BOARD, IF ANYTHING IS ABOVE 6%, IT'LL BE A RECOMMENDATION FROM YOUR BODY UP TO THE COUNTY BOARD, JUST LIKE A NORMAL, UH, PUBLIC POLICY APPROVAL PROCESS. 
          SO, TO GET THE, THE ULTIMATE QUESTION, HOW DO WE GET THIS THING TAX RATE NEUTRAL? UM, YOU, YOU WILL RECALL OUR TAX RATE, UH, FOR 2026, THE CURRENT YEAR, THE BUDGET YOU APPROVED IS A DOLLAR AND 40 CENTS. 
          UM, OUR GOAL WAS TO GET THIS PROPOSAL TO THE POINT WHERE, UH, THAT TAX RATE WOULD STAY THE SAME, A DOLLAR AND 40 CENTS. 
          AND SO THIS IS WHAT I SHARED WITH, UH, THE CHIEF ELECTED OFFICIAL C UH, MEETING. 
          AND THEN ALSO I'M SHARING WITH YOU, UM, SO I, BEFORE I, WE DIVE INTO THOSE NUMBERS, UM, I, I MENTIONED SOME OF THIS INFORMATION, BUT I DO DO THINK IT'S REALLY IMPORTANT IN ADDITION TO THOSE LISTENING SESSIONS, BECAUSE NO MATTER WHERE YOU PUT THE FIVE, OR IF YOU DO 15 OR YOU DO 20, UH, IT DOESN'T MATTER NOT OUTTA THE 140,000 PEOPLE WHO LIVE HERE AT THE VERY MOST. 
          YOU'LL BE LUCKY IF YOU GET 1%. 
          UM, BUT THE REALITY IS IF DOOR TO DOOR CONTACT AND POLLING, UM, AND WHEN WE TALK TO PEOPLE DIRECTLY, UH, WITHOUT, ESPECIALLY WITHOUT THEM HEARING THE FULL 45 MINUTE PRESENTATION FROM ALL THE, THE EXPERTS, UM, THEIR NUMBER ONE ISSUE IS AFFORDABILITY AND PROPERTY TAXES AT THE TOP OF THE LIST. 
          SO KEEPING THAT TAX RATE FLAT IS REALLY IMPORTANT. 
          SO HERE'S HOW I PROPOSE WE DO THAT, UH, AND MEET YOUR GOAL, UM, THAT YOU HAD SHARED AT THE LAST MEETING OF BEING TAX RATE NEUTRAL. 
          UM, SO AT THE TOP OF THIS SHEET, YOU'LL, UH, LET, LET'S JUST WALK THROUGH, UM, THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE PREVIOUS, UH, MEETING YOU HAD AND, AND THIS MEETING. 
          EVERYTHING ON THE BOTTOM IS ALL THE THINGS YOU'VE ALREADY MODIFIED, UH, ALREADY CHANGED. 
          THE, THE TOP IS THE MATH THAT GETS US TO TAX RATE NEUTRAL. 
          SO THERE'S A FEW KEY CHANGES. 
          UH, THE FIRST IS, YOU'LL NOTICE RIGHT OFF THE TOP, UM, THE TOTAL EMS FUNDING. 
          AND NOTICE IT DOESN'T SAY EMS LEVY. 
          IT SAYS EMS FUNDING, UM, IS NO LONGER 3.5 MILLION. 
          IT'S NOW DOWN TO 2.96 UNDER THIS MODIFICATION. 
          IF WE DO THAT, IT, IT, IT AS LISTED BELOW, IT ACHIEVES THAT TAX RATE OF A DOLLAR AND 40 CENTS. 
          UH, SO A ZERO INCREASE, UH, ACTUALLY IT'S A, A HUNDREDTH OF A CENT OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT DECREASE. 
          UM, THE VOLUNTEER INCENTIVE STAYS THE SAME. 
          THAT IS LEVY FUNDED. 
          UH, THE MUNICIPAL SHARE, UM, IT'S STILL A 75 25 SPLIT IN YEAR ONE, UM, THAT WE PROPOSE TO BE FUNDED WITH LEVY DOLLARS, UM, PREDOMINANTLY EMS LEVY DOLLARS, THAT 1.85 MILLION. 
          SO YOU'LL NOTICE THAT, THAT THOSE ARE THE ONLY THING, ONLY TWO THINGS NOW LISTED AS THIS EMS LEVY $2.35 MILLION IF YOU COMBINE THE TWO FOR VOLUNTEER INCENTIVE AND MUNICIPAL SHARE, WHICH MEANS THAT LAST ITEM, THE DEPARTMENT GRANTS, UH, IS A DIFFERENT REVENUE SOURCE. 
          AND WHAT WE ARE PROPOSING IS THAT WE USE SOME OF THE GROWTH IN SALES TAX IN 2027 TO PAY FOR, UM, THE DEPARTMENT GRANTS. 
          THIS WILL BENEFIT MUNICIPALITIES AND THE COUNTY IN, IN SEVERAL INTERESTING WAYS BECAUSE THE, THE COUNTY BENEFITS AND THE TAXPAYER BENEFITS, BECAUSE OF COURSE THAT EMS 
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LEVY IS MUCH SMALLER. 
          UH, NOT ONLY DO YOU HIT TAX RATE NEUTRAL, BUT THE GROWTH ON THAT LEVY IN THE FUTURE, UM, YOU'D HAVE TO GO BEYOND A DOUBLE DIGIT INCREASE ANNUALLY TO HA TO SEE A TAX RATE INCREASE YEAR OVER YEAR FOR THE NEXT FIVE YEARS. 
          UM, SO THAT IS A HUMONGOUS WIN, NOT JUST IN 2027, BUT IN THE FIVE YEARS, UH, THE REMAINING FOUR YEARS OF THAT FIVE YEAR CONTRACT THAT YOU, UH, SUGGESTED LAST MONTH. 
          SO THAT'S A BIG DEAL. 
          UM, SECONDLY, THE DEPARTMENT GRANTS, UM, BY MAKING IT SALES TAX, IT'S MUCH MORE FLEXIBLE TO THOSE DEPARTMENTS. 
          UM, THEY ARE ABLE TO KIND OF USE IT WHERE THEY, THEY NEED IT. 
          UM, AND, AND IT'S ALSO FOR US, UM, YOU'RE ABLE TO TIE THE 4% TO THE MUNICIPAL SHARE ON THE LEVY SIDE, AND THEN SEPARATELY THE DEPARTMENT GRANT SHARE, UH, ON THE SALES TAX SIDE. 
          SO INSTEAD OF THEM GROWING AS ONE LARGE NUMBER, THEY GROW AS TWO SMALLER NUMBERS. 
          UH, AND THAT MAKES IT MUCH MORE, MUCH MORE MANAGEABLE, UH, FROM A BUDGETARY SIDE OF THINGS. 
          SO IT, I THINK THIS PROPOSAL NOW, YOU'LL, YOU'LL NOTE IT DROPS THE OVERALL SPEND BY, UH, JUST UNDER $600,000. 
          UH, THE BULK OF WHICH, UH, OR PL PLURALITY, I GUESS OF WHICH COMES FROM THE COUNTY ADMINISTRATIVE FEE. 
          UM, BUT IT ACHIEVES THE GOAL YOU'VE BEEN ASKING FOR. 
          IT CHECKS EVERY BOX THAT WE ORIGINALLY, UH, PROPOSED. 
          AND IT, IT ULTIMATELY, UM, HAS, I THINK IS A BETTER MODEL, UH, THAT CAN SERVE BOTH WELL. 
          NOW WE HAD THIS CONVERSATION AT LENGTH, UH, WITH THE CHIEF ELECTED OFFICIALS ON MONDAY NIGHT, UH, WALKED THEM THROUGH EXACTLY THE SAME INFORMATION THAT YOU SEE HERE, UM, AND ASKED FOR THEIR FEEDBACK. 
          TELL US, YOU KNOW, THIS IS YOUR PROPOSAL, OBVIOUSLY WE'RE MODIFYING WHAT, WHAT I, WE HAVE HELPED YOU BUILD. 
          IS THIS SOMETHING YOU EVERYBODY CAN LIVE WITH, CAN WORK WITH? AND AGAIN, WENT AROUND THE ROOM JUST LIKE WE DID A COUPLE MONTHS BACK, AND THE ANSWER WAS A HUNDRED PERCENT YES. 
          SO, UM, WE STILL HAVE A LITTLE WAYS TO GO, BUT IT HITS THE GOAL THAT YOU ASKED US TO COME UP WITH LAST MONTH TAX RATE NEUTRAL. 
          NICE SUPERVISOR, PIPER, GO AHEAD. 
          OKAY. 
          THE NET NEUTRAL, SO IS THAT TO BE ZERO FOR FIVE YEARS? IS THAT WHAT WE'RE, IS THAT THE GOAL? THE GOAL IN, IN 27 FOR 2027 WAS, AS I UNDERSTOOD IT, WAS TO BE TAX RATE NEUTRAL ON THE AVERAGE HOME. 
          SO THE COMMUNITIES THAT SAW BIG REEVALUATIONS, OBVIOUSLY WE CAN'T CONTROL THAT, THAT'S A DIFFERENT STORY. 
          UM, BUT IF A HOME WAS VALUED AT $400,000 LAST YEAR AND IT'S VALUED AT $400,000 NEXT YEAR, THERE SHOULD BE A NET ZERO IMPACT. 
          OKAY. 
          SO MY QUESTION THEN, WHAT WILL IT BE THE YEAR AFTER AND THE YEAR THE FOLLOWING? SO, UH, WE BELIEVE, AND I CAN, AARON CAN SPEAK TO THIS BETTER THAN I, HE, HE'S THE WIZARD WITH ALL THE MATH, BUT I'VE CHALLENGED HIM WITH THAT EXACT QUESTION, UH, BECAUSE WE CERTAINLY DON'T WANT TO SEE GIANT TAX RATE INCREASES IN THE FUTURE EITHER. 
          UM, BUT THE, THE CONCLUSION WE CAME TO WAS YOU HAVE TO GET, YOU WOULD HAVE TO APPROVE, AND I DON'T MEAN YOU, THE PUBLIC SAFETY COMMITTEE, I MEAN, YOU, THE COUNTY BOARD WOULD HAVE TO APPROVE OVER DOUBLE DIGIT INCREASES PER YEAR IN, IN THE MUNICIPAL SHARE CATEGORY IN ORDER TO GET THEM TO GO TO A POINT WHERE YOU WOULD ACTUALLY SEE A TAX RATE INCREASE. 
          IN OTHER WORDS, IT'S ALMOST IMPOSSIBLE. 
          IT'S NOT THAT, IT'S NOT, IM IMPOSSIBLE, NOTHING'S IMPOSSIBLE. 
          IT'S POSSIBLE. 
          BUT PRACTICALLY SPEAKING, I CAN'T IMAGINE YOU OR THE COUNTY BOARD AT LARGE, UM, EVER AGREEING TO 10% INCREASES ON ANYTHING. 
          OKAY. 
          AND ONE MORE QUESTION. 
          SO BEFORE I READ, THERE WAS 2,000,490, NOW IT'S 2.96. 
          SO A TOTAL SPEND IS 2.96. 
          OKAY. 
          THAT IS CORRECT. 
          BUT WHEN YOU TAKE THE COUNTY'S PORTION OUT AND YOU CONTEMPLATE ADDING SALES TAX TO REPLACE THE LEVY, THAT'S HOW YOU GET THAT 2.96 NUMBER. 
          IN OTHER WORDS, IF WE WERE JUST SIMPLY TRYING TO MAKE THE LEVY SMALLER TO SOLVE THE PROBLEM, YOU WOULD'VE HAD TO SUBTRACT THAT NUMBER EVEN FARTHER. 
          BUT BECAUSE YOU BROUGHT IN A DIFFERENT REVENUE SOURCE, YOU'RE ABLE TO KEEP THE 2.96 A LITTLE BIT HIGHER. 
          DOES THAT MAKE SENSE? OKAY. 
          FROM THE GRANT. 
          OKAY. 
          I'M GONNA, I WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK A LITTLE BIT ON THE PROPOSAL THAT THE COUNTY EXECUTIVE BROUGHT FORWARD. 
          UM, UH, I GOTTA, I GOTTA ADMIT, I, I HAD SOME RESERVATIONS. 
          I'VE BROUGHT 'EM UP AT THE PREVIOUS MEETING AS WELL, 
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AS FAR AS FINDING ANOTHER FUNDING SOURCE AND BEING ABLE TO TIE THAT FUNDING SOURCE, WHATEVER IT IS TO GO TO EMS FUNDING. 
          UM, THE PROPOSAL THAT HE HAS BROUGHT HERE IS SOMETHING THAT ALTHOUGH THE, THE TOTAL FUNDING CHANGED, IT CAME DOWN 300 SOME THOUSAND. 
          THE PROPOSAL THAT HE HAS HERE WITH THE, THE, UH, THE OTHER FUNDING SOURCE, I CAN DEFINITELY GET BEHIND. 
          AND I'M FORTUNATE ENOUGH TO BE PART OF THAT ELECTED LEADERS MEETING AND GROUP. 
          AND, UH, I WILL REITERATE THAT IT WAS SUPPORTED IN THAT GROUP AS WELL, UH, TO THE POINT THAT ONE REPRESENTATIVE SAID, YOU KNOW, WE THOUGHT THE FIRST PROPOSAL WAS GOOD, THIS ONE'S GREAT. 
          UH, BEING THAT WE GOT TO THE TAX RATE NEUTRAL, A FEW, A FEW OTHER, I THINK GOOD POINTS TO THIS IN, IN THE COUNTY EXECUTIVE WHO BROUGHT IT UP AS WELL, IS, IS THOSE TWO POTS GROW AT DIFFERENT, THEY GROW FROM DIFFERENT POTS OF MONEY. 
          SO ONE GROWS FROM THE SALES TAX INCREASES AND ONE GROWS FROM THE, THE COUNTIES, UM, EMS LEVY. 
          SO SEPARATING THEM I THINK IS A BENEFIT AS WELL. 
          UM, I'LL, ANY, I'LL OPEN IT UP TO ANYBODY ELSE THAT HAS QUESTIONS ON IT. 
          I'M TRYING TO QUESTION. 
          SURE, GO AHEAD. 
          UM, HAS THIS SYSTEM EVER WORKED BEFORE AT ANY OTHER COUNTY IN THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA? UM, THIS EXACT SYSTEM. 
          WELL, SIMILAR ANYWAY. 
          YES. 
          SIMILAR, YES. 
          COUNTYWIDE. 
          YES. 
          SO, UM, THE, THERE'S A FEW OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD, AND DAVE CAN PROBABLY SPEAK TO MORE. 
          FLORENCE COUNTY, WASHER COUNTY, PORTAGE COUNTY, MILWAUKEE COUNTY, ALL HAVE DIFFERENT VERSIONS OF LEVERAGING THEIR EMS LEVY, UM, TO SUPPORT LOCAL MUNICIPALITIES OR TO SUPPORT A COUNTY DEPARTMENT, COUNTY EMS DEPARTMENT. 
          UM, PORTAGE COUNTY'S PROBABLY THE CLOSEST, UM, BUT THEY, THEY USE FOUR SPECIFIC DEPARTMENTS, AND THE COUNTY'S VERY INVOLVED. 
          WE WOULD BE VERY NOT INVOLVED. 
          BASICALLY, YOUR INVOLVEMENT AS OUR INVOLVEMENT IS WE HAVE THE DOLLARS GO OUT IF WE'LL SHOW YOU SMART GOALS AFTER THIS DISCUSSION, WE MAKE SURE THOSE SMART GOALS ARE GETTING MET, AND IF THEY ARE, THE APPROVALS FOR THE BOTTOM PORTION OF INCREASES HAPPEN. 
          THAT'S IT. 
          YOU DON'T HAVE OPERATIONAL AUTHORITY, YOU DON'T HAVE ADMINISTRATIVE AUTHORITY. 
          IT'S FINANCIAL AUTHORITY. 
          AND THE, THE BEAUTY OF THAT IS YOU CAN ENCOURAGE CONSOLIDATION OR SHARED SERVICE, OR ME, OR YOU KNOW, WHAT, HOWEVER YOU WANNA TALK IT, TALK ABOUT IT SIMILAR TO WHAT WEST BEND AND Q OCU DID, BUT IT'S THEIR DECISION. 
          YOU'VE COMPLETELY PROTECTED THROUGH THIS MODEL, LOCAL CONTROL IN PORTAGE COUNTY. 
          THAT IS NOT THE CASE. 
          THE COUNTY IS TELLING THEM THIS IS HOW IT'S GONNA BE AND THIS IS WHAT YOU'RE GONNA DO. 
          AND WE HEARD LOUD AND CLEAR FROM THE CHIEF ELECTEDS AND THE FIRE CHIEFS. 
          WE DO NOT WANT THAT. 
          WE WANT YOUR HELP. 
          WE, WE WANT OUR AUTONOMY TOO. 
          FAIR. 
          I HAVE, DOES THAT ANSWER YOUR QUESTION? I'M SORRY. 
          I, WELL, YEAH. 
          MY QUESTION IS, UM, IS THIS GONNA BE BACKED BY SOME KIND OF UNION? SO WE HAD, WHAT'S INTERESTING ABOUT THE PROPOSAL IS YOU HAVE, WELL, WE HAD 16 OF THE 20 MUNICIPALITIES SAYING THEY, THEY, UM, SUPPORT THE CON CONCEPTUALLY THIS AND THE DISCUSSION THAT YOU'RE HAVING AS WE SPEAK. 
          MOST IMPORTANTLY, THE DISCUSSION WE'RE HAVING. 
          UM, WE DO HAVE, YES, WE DO HAVE UNION SUPPORT, BUT WE ALSO HAVE SEVERAL VOLUNTEERS AND VOLUNTEER COMPANIES SUPPORTING THAT CONVERSATION GOING. 
          SO, YES, BUT YOU KNOW, THAT'S THE BEAUTY OF WASHINGTON COUNTY'S ENTIRE SYSTEM. 
          WE HAVE EVERYTHING FROM FIRE DEPARTMENT ONLY, NO EMERGENCY MEDICAL SYSTEM SERVICE AT ALL IN THE VILLAGE OF SLINGER, SLINGER FIRE DEPARTMENT, ALL THE WAY UP TO FULL-TIME UNIONIZED PARA PARAMEDIC LEVEL SERVICE HERE IN THE CITY OF WEST BEND. 
          SO WE'VE GOT THE FULL GAMUT, AND EVERYBODY IS SAYING, THIS IS THE DISCUSSION, EXACT DISCUSSION WE NEED TO HAVE. 
          EVERYBODY'S GOT AN OPINION ON HOW DO YOU TWEAK AND CHANGE AND WHO GETS 75 AND WHO GETS 25. 
          AND YEAH, THAT'S WHERE A LOT OF PEOPLE ARE QUESTIONING. 
          SURE. 
          WHAT ARE THE NUMBERS THAT THEY CAN REALLY SEE FOR EACH COMMUNITY, FOR EACH TOWNSHIP? AND WE'LL GET WE'LL, WE'LL TALK ABOUT THAT. 
          I KNOW YOU HAVE IT, BUT, UM, WE'LL GET, WE'LL TALK ABOUT THAT HERE AT THE END OF THE MEETING. 
          IT'S, UM, I THINK WHAT'S MOST BEEN, MOST INTERESTING IN THE LAST 48 HOURS SINCE WE TALKED TO THE CHIEF ELECTEDS, AND I SAID THIS TO YOU AT THE LAST MEETING, UH, AND I SAID IT TO THEM, TO THEM PROBABLY A HALF A DOZEN 
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TIMES NOW, BUT I THINK IT'S REALLY STARTING TO SINK IN. 
          EVERYBODY WANTS TO SPEND THEIR TIME FOCUSING ON THE $2.96 MILLION IN 2027. 
          BUT THE REAL BENEFIT OF THE WHOLE DEAL IS YOUR CONTROL, THAT MODIFICATION YOU MADE TO ANNUAL INCREASES, BECAUSE THAT IS WHAT PREVENTS FUTURE REFERENDUMS AND FUTURE BORROWING TO PAY FOR OPERATING COSTS. 
          AND THAT'S REALLY WHAT PROTECTS A TAXPAYER. 
          I I'LL GIVE YOU A PERFECT ILLUSTRATION. 
          WHEN, WHEN YOU, I WON'T, I WON'T NAME THE TOWN, BUT WHEN I SAT DOWN WITH SOME TOWN BOARD MEMBERS AND SAID, IF WE DON'T DO THIS, HOW DO YOU FUND THE, THE PROGRAM? BECAUSE I KNOW YOU'RE GETTING INCREASES OF MORE THAN 1%, WHICH IS YOUR NET NEW CONSTRUCTION. 
          HOW ARE YOU GONNA PAY FOR IT? WE'LL BORROW, BORROW FOR ROADS AND WE'LL FREE UP THE MONEY TO, TO PAY FOR THE OPERATION. 
          OH, REALLY? HOW MUCH ARE YOU PAYING AN INTEREST PER YEAR? WELL, OVER 6%. 
          OKAY. 
          SO YOUR IDEA IS 106% OF THE COST OF THE ONE WE'RE TALKING ABOUT. 
          THAT'S THE REAL SAVINGS THAT YOU'LL SAVE TAXPAYERS. 
          IF YOU, IF YOU PURSUE THIS PROPOSAL AS YOU'VE LAID IT OUT ON THE BOTTOM HALF, THAT'S THE REAL WIN. 
          AND IT'S, AND IT'S AS LONG AS YOU ON THE COUNTY BOARD DECIDE THIS IS WORKING, AND THE MINUTE YOU SAY YOU GUYS AREN'T WORKING TOGETHER, YOU'RE NOT FINDING EFFICIENCIES, YOU'RE NOT DRIVE DRIVING THAT BLUE LINE DOWN, YOU CAN FREEZE IT. 
          BUT I DON'T SEE THAT HAPPENING. 
          I SEE THE OPPOSITE. 
          I SEE THEM, THEY'RE ALREADY BEGINNING THE DISCUSSIONS OF HOW DO WE SHARE EQUIPMENT BETTER? HOW DO WE REGIONALIZE, HOW DO WE WORK TOGETHER BETTER? AND AND THAT'S, THOSE CONVERSATIONS, WE'RE NOT EVEN PART OF THOSE AT THE COUNTY LEVEL. 
          WE'RE AWARE OF 'EM. 
          I, I THINK A LOT OF THE FOCUS HAS BEEN ON KIND OF YEAR ONE, WHAT, WHAT'S THIS GONNA DO YEAR ONE? AND REALLY THE BIGGEST BENEFIT IS THE ONGOING YEARS OF COVERING THOSE INCREASED COSTS IN THOSE IN THE COMMUNITIES. 
          THAT'S REALLY THE, THE WIN HERE IS, IS THE ONGOING COST COVERAGE. 
          SO, AND THAT'S WHAT THE, HE MENTIONED THAT THE ANNUAL INCREASES THAT WE'RE SEEING. 
          SO ANYBODY ELSE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS BEFORE HE MOVES ON? SURPRISE AMBASSADOR, YOU MENTIONED THAT ONE OF THE LISTENING SESSIONS, THE SITUATION IN A COUPLE DIFFERENT DEPARTMENTS, AND I THINK COLESVILLE COMES TO MIND WHERE THEY'RE STRUGGLING. 
          YEAH. 
          UM, CAN YOU TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THAT TONIGHT HERE? YES. 
          SO I THINK I MENTIONED TO YOU IN A PREVIOUS MEETING, AND I KNOW, UM, CHIEFS WHO'VE GIVEN THESE PRESENTATIONS HAVE AS WELL, SINCE WE STARTED THIS, THIS DISCUSSION THREE AND A HALF YEARS AGO, WE'VE HAD TWO DEPARTMENTS, COLLAPSE ISN'T THE RIGHT WORD, BUT I DON'T KNOW WHAT OTHER WORD TO USE. 
          THEY'VE SIGNIFICANTLY CHANGED HOW THEY OPERATED JUST THREE AND A HALF YEARS AGO. 
          UM, O OBVIOUSLY KIOSKI IN WEST BEND WITH THEIR, UH, SHARED SERVICE MODEL IS WILDLY DIFFERENT FROM HOW QOM USED TO DO THINGS. 
          AND RICHFIELD, GOING FROM A VOLUNTEER FIRE COMPANY OF 125 YEARS TO A FULL-TIME MUNICIPAL DEPARTMENT UNIONIZED, WHICH IS EXACTLY WHAT YOU'RE WORRIED ABOUT. 
          THAT IS THE PATH THAT EVERYBODY ELSE AROUND US IS GOING DOWN. 
          YOU DON'T HAVE TO TAKE, DON'T TAKE MY WORD FOR IT. 
          ASK OZAKI CENTRAL FIRE DEPARTMENT HOW, HOW IT WORKS. 
          IT'S THE SAME THING. 
          THIS, UM, SAVES US FROM THAT. 
          AND THE COLESVILLE IS A GREAT EXAMPLE 'CAUSE IT'S PROBABLY THE NEXT DEPARTMENT STANDING ON THE VERGE OF SOME, SOME DIFFICULTIES SIMILAR TO WHAT WE'VE SEEN OTHERS FACE. 
          UM, THEY'VE BEEN HAVING SOME REAL HARD TIME GETTING PEOPLE TO RESPOND TO CALLS AND THEN RES RESPOND AT ALL. 
          UM, THEIR VOLUNTEERS HAVE REALLY BEEN STRAINED TO THE POINT OF BREAKING. 
          UM, SO I ANTICIPATE, UM, IF IF NOTHING HAPPENS, COL COLESVILLE IS GONNA BE IN A REAL, REAL BAD WAY. 
          UM, DOES THIS SAVE THEM? I, I DON'T, I DON'T EVEN KNOW. 
          WE MIGHT BE TOO LATE. 
          WE WERE TOO LATE TO HELP RICHFIELD AND, AND KIOSKI BY THE TIME THEY NEEDED IT. 
          UM, NOW BOTH OF THOSE THINGS WORKED OUT. 
          UM, BUT I'M NOT INTERESTED IN WAITING TO FIND OUT IF IT'S GONNA WORK OUT. 
          LIKE I THINK WE CAN, WE CAN BRIDGE THIS GAP AND THEN COME UP WITH SOMETHING THAT'S MORE DURABLE, MORE SUSTAINABLE FOR THE LONG, THE LONG HAUL. 
          AND THAT'S REALLY, TO ME, WHAT THIS IS ABOUT. 
          SO YES, COLESVILLE IS, IS PROBABLY THE NEXT MOST HURTING DEPARTMENT AT THE MOMENT. 
          YEAH. 
          REASON I BRING THAT UP, BECAUSE THE SITUATION IS STARTING TO TURN DIRE FOR A FEW DEPARTMENTS. 
          I KNOW THERE'S BEEN A PUSH BY A CERTAIN, UH, SOCIAL MEDIA SITE AND PEOPLE WHO ARE ALIVE WITH THAT TO TRY TO HAVE US POSTPONE DECISIONS. 
          I DON'T WANT TO JEOPARDIZE LIVES. 
          AND THAT'S WHAT EMS DOES. 
          YOU KNOW, WHEN THERE'S A CAR CRASH, IT'S EMS THAT'S RESPONDING AND SAVING LIVES. 
          UM, WHEN SOMEBODY HAS A HEART ATTACK AND 
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YOU DIAL 9 1 1, IT'S EMS THAT'S COMING. 
          YOU KNOW, THIS IS NOT LIKE THE HISTORY CENTER. 
          THIS IS ONE OF OUR HIGHEST PRIORITY SERVICES. 
          PUBLIC SAFETY IS NUMBER ONE, SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT AND FIRE SUPPORT. 
          SO I DON'T SEE, I DON'T SEE POSTPONING AS A VIABLE OPTION. 
          I THINK WE, WE HAD THE LISTENING SESSIONS AND OTHER THAN PEOPLE WHO WERE VERY CLOSELY ALLIED WITH THAT SOCIAL MEDIA WEBSITE, THE FEEDBACK WAS BASICALLY POSITIVE FROM THOSE. 
          SO I THINK AT THIS POINT, WE NEED TO DO WHAT WE WERE ELECTED TO DO AND MOVE FORWARD ON MAKING DECISIONS HERE. 
          SO I WILL GO AHEAD. 
          I WILL JUST ELABORATE A LITTLE BIT ON THAT AS WELL. 
          AS SO MANY OF YOU KNOW, UH, WE HAD A LARGE FAMILY FIRE IN MY, UH, AT MY FAMILY'S DAIRY FARM RECENTLY. 
          AND WE HAD 23 DEPARTMENTS RESPOND FROM FOUR DIFFERENT COUNTIES. 
          AND THE REASON I MENTIONED THAT IS TWO REASONS. 
          ONE IS, I BELIEVE THE COUNT WAS 15 OF THOSE ARE VOLUNTEER FIRE DEPARTMENTS. 
          AND EMS ISN'T ALWAYS THE CAR ACCIDENT OR THE HEART ATTACK. 
          THERE WAS AT LEAST THREE EMS PROVIDERS ON SCENE PROVIDING SERVICES AND EMS, UH, MEDICAL SUPPORT TO THE, I LOST TRACK HUNDREDS OF FIREFIGHTERS AT THIS FIRE. 
          SO IT'S NOT ONLY THOSE TYPE OF SITUATIONS, THEY PROVIDE SUPPORT FOR EACH OTHER FOR FIRE. 
          THAT'S WHY THEY'RE SO INTEGRATED TOGETHER. 
          AND, UH, I WOULD SAY TO, TO SIT BACK AND, YOU KNOW, I WAS IN THE FIRE SERVICE YEARS AGO, SO I DO HAVE AN UNDERSTANDING ON IT, BUT JUST TO SIT BACK AND WATCH EVERYBODY HOW THEY WORK IN UNISON IS JUST AMAZING. 
          AND, AND THE, THE TEAMWORK THAT THEY HAD WAS GREAT. 
          SO IT'S, IT'S ALL INTEGRATED TOGETHER. 
          SO SUPERVISOR BRIMORE. 
          YEAH, I LOST MY THOUGHT, BUT I WAS THINKING THIS THOUGH. 
          BUT THE OPTING OUT IS THAT WHAT HAPPENS IF SOMEONE, YOU KNOW, COMMUNITY WANTS TO OPT OUT BECAUSE LIKE SLINGER, THEY HAVE A HUNDRED PERCENT, YOU KNOW, EMS SYSTEM GOING ON THERE. 
          SO WE'RE GONNA GET TO THAT IN OUR PRESENTATION COMING UP. 
          SO, OH, THAT'S JUMPING THE GUN A LITTLE. 
          OKAY. 
          I'M JUMPING. 
          IT'S GOOD QUESTION. 
          . 
          OKAY. 
          YOU, ANYTHING ELSE? I, I THINK, UH, I THINK THAT SUMS IT UP. 
          WHAT I'D, WHAT I'D LIKE, UM, FOR THE COMMITTEE TO DEBATE AND DISCUSS IS THE PROPOSAL THAT YOU SEE HERE. 
          IF YOU'D LIKE SOME CHANGES OR TWEAKS, HAPPY TO, WE CAN KICK THOSE AROUND QUICK. 
          UM, I SHOULDN'T SAY QUICK. 
          WE CAN KICK THOSE AROUND. 
          UM, OTHERWISE SIMILAR TO THE LAST MEETING, IF YOU, HOWEVER YOU WANT TO HANDLE THAT, MR. CHAIRMAN. 
          OKAY. 
          I GUESS, UH, I MAY BE REPEATING MYSELF, BUT I'M GONNA DO IT JUST TO MAKE SURE I'M CLEAR. 
          SO PREVIOUSLY I WAS CONCERNED ABOUT EMS LEVY AND THE OTHER FUNDING SOURCES THAT WE WERE LOOKING AT AND BEING ABLE TO TIE THAT FUNDING TO EMS SERVICES. 
          UM, AGAIN, THE PROPOSAL WE HAVE RIGHT NOW HAS SALES TAX AS ONE OF THE, THE REVENUE SOURCES. 
          THE REASON I WOULD SUPPORT THAT IS BECAUSE THAT PORTION OF THIS FUNDING IS GOING DIRECTLY TO THE FIRE DEPARTMENTS. 
          IT'S NOT GOING TO MUNICIPALITIES WHERE THEY COULD USE IT FOR SOMETHING ELSE. 
          AND THEY'RE NOT TIED BY STATUTE TO USE THAT. 
          UH, FOR EMS WHEN IT GOES DIRECTLY TO THE FIRE DEPARTMENTS, THAT'S WHAT IT'S GOING TO, YOU KNOW, THAT'S WHAT IT'S GONNA BE USED FOR, FOR THEIR SERVICES. 
          SO I DO SUPPORT, UH, THE, THE PROPOSAL AND THE CHANGES THAT HAVE BEEN BROUGHT FORTH, UH, AS PART OF LISTENING SESSIONS. 
          YOU KNOW, I WAS NOT SURPRISED THAT, UM, ATTENDEES WERE WILLING TO SUPPORT THE, THE PROPOSED FOUR SENT. 
          UM, BUT EVERYBODY LIKES A TEXT NEUTRAL OPTION AS WELL. 
          SO I WILL, I WOULD SUPPORT THE RECENT PROPOSAL AND LOOK FOR, UH, ANY INPUT FROM THE BOARD MEMBERS OR COMMITTEE MEMBERS, SUPERVISOR BASSETT. 
          I WOULDN'T MIND BRINGING THE TOTAL SPEND DOWN A BIT MORE, BUT I ALSO UNDERSTAND WITH COMPROMISE, IF THIS IS WHERE EVERYBODY ELSE IS, THEN YOU KNOW, I CAN BE OKAY WITH THIS. 
          I'M NOT GONNA SUPPORT THIS RIGHT NOW. 
          I FEEL LIKE I NEED MORE TIME TO SOAK THIS UP IN ABOUT THIS NET NEUTRAL, UM, CONCEPT HERE. 
          'CAUSE IT'S PRETTY NEW TO ME. 
          I REALLY, SO I REALLY, I, I WOULD LIKE MORE TIME. 
          I DON'T THINK WE NEED TO RUSH, 
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RUSH. 
          I BELIEVE IT WAS CHAIR OUR SLEEVE WAS STATED THAT WE NEED MONTHS TO REALLY, AND I JUST FEEL LIKE I'VE JUST, WE JUST DELVED INTO THIS. 
          WELL, IF THERE'S SPECIFIC QUESTIONS YOU HAVE ON THIS, LET'S DISCUSS IT AS A COMMITTEE AND IF THERE'S SOMETHING THAT'S UNCLEAR, LET'S, WELL, I JUST FEEL LIKE THE NUMBERS, I DON'T FEEL LIKE THEY'RE CONCRETE ENOUGH FOR ME. 
          I JUST, I'M, YOU KNOW, I SAW TWO, YOU KNOW, THE 2,400,000 TO 2.96. 
          BUT I GUESS THE THING IS THAT, SO IT'S JUST GOING TO THE FIRE DEPARTMENT NOW. 
          ALL THIS MONEY IS WHAT? NO. 
          SO I GUESS THAT'S WHERE I'M KIND OF CONFUSED THAT I DON'T SEE ANY DETAILS OF WHERE THIS MONEY IS GOING TO. 
          WE'LL, WE'LL HAVE 'EM NOW WE UNDERSTAND WHERE MAYBE THE DISCONNECT IS. 
          WE'LL HAVE, UH, COUNTY EXECUTIVE JUST KIND OF BREAK IT DOWN A LITTLE BIT MORE IN DETAIL. 
          SURE, SURE. 
          YOU KNOW, AND THEY KNOW HE WAS GONNA SPEAK TO, WOULD, WOULD YOU LIKE AARON TO SPEAK TO IT? WELL, YEAH. 
          AND, AND ALSO THE DAVE, DAVE, SEE, YOU'RE GONNA SPEAK TO SURE. 
          YEAH. 
          I MEAN, I JUST FEEL LIKE ABSOLUTELY MOST OF THE COMMUNITIES THAT TALK TO ME ARE ASKING ABOUT, WE WANT CONCRETE NUMBERS AND ALL THE MUNICIPALITIES SHOULD BE ABLE TO SEE A FINAL DRAFT BEFORE A VOTE. 
          AND I AGREE. 
          'CAUSE THEY'RE, THEY'RE GONNA BE ACCOUNTABLE. 
          THEY'RE COMMUNITIES TAX WISE. 
          YES, MA'AM. 
          SO, UH, WHAT WOULD YOU LIKE MORE TO FIND AS FAR AS CONCRETE NUMBERS? WHAT EXACT WE'RE OKAY, WE'RE EXACTLY, AND PACIFIC, IS THE MONEY GOING TO YOU, YOU KNOW, THEY SAY THE EMS SYSTEM WHERE, I MEAN, ARE WE HIRING MORE EMS? NO WORKERS? NO, NO, IT'S NOT GROWING GOVERNMENT AT ALL. 
          THIS IS PURELY SUPPORTING THE EMS SERVICES THAT ARE THE PROVIDING AGENCIES THROUGHOUT THE COUNTY. 
          ALL 13 DEPARTMENTS. 
          SO THEY'RE ALREADY PROVIDE, OKAY. 
          SO THEN I'M ALSO CONCERNED ABOUT LIKE FOR, UM, UH, LET'S SAY SLINGER FOR, YOU KNOW, OKAY. 
          'CAUSE I MEAN, I LIKE WHAT THEY'RE DOING THERE. 
          AND HAS ANYBODY SPOKEN WITH MIKE? WE ALL DO. 
          WE ALL DO. 
          AND INVITED HIM AS LIKE PART OF THIS GROUP THAT YOU HAVE THERE. 
          I JUST FEEL LIKE HE'S DONE SO MUCH FOR THAT COMMUNITY. 
          MIKE IS, MIKE HAS BEEN AT A MULTITUDE OF MEETINGS. 
          ABSOLUTELY. 
          UH, SLINGER, SLINGER MODEL'S FANTASTIC. 
          BUT I WANT YOU TO UNDERSTAND THE, THE UNIQUE THING ABOUT SLINGER IS THEY HAVE THAT PARTNERSHIP WITH LIFESTAR. 
          THAT DOES NOT MEAN THAT, UH, SLINGER DOESN'T PROVIDE EMS. THEY ABSOLUTELY DO PROVIDE EMS RIGHT ON CAR ACCIDENT. 
          SO THEY JUST DON'T RESPOND TO FIRE INCIDENTS. 
          THEY ARE ABSOLUTELY PROVIDING EMS AT EVERY LEVEL. 
          E-M-R-E-M-T PARAMEDIC LEVEL, THEY ARE GOING, BUT LIFESTAR, THEY CONTRACT WITH LIFESTAR. 
          THEY'RE THE INITIAL RESPONSE MECHANISM FOR A 9 1 1 CALL. 
          LIFESTAR RESPONDS IN THE VILLAGE OF SLINGER, THE TOWN OF POLK, AND PROVIDES THAT SERVICE WHEN THERE IS TIMES, AND IT IS QUITE OFTEN THAT THERE IS, UH, A NEED FOR SUPPORT TO PROVIDE THAT SERVICE. 
          UH, AN AMBULANCE HAS ONLY GOT TWO PEOPLE ON THAT APPARATUS. 
          SO WHEN YOU'RE PERFORMING CPR OR ANY OTHER, UH, FUNCTION EMS WISE, YOU NEED THAT PERSONNEL SUPPORT TO DO THAT. 
          CPR AND CPR IS NOT EASY. 
          SO THE VILLAGE OF SLINGER ABSOLUTELY DOES EMS AND AS FAR AS CONCRETE NUMBERS. 
          AND WHAT WE'RE FUNDING THROUGH THIS PROCESS IS EMS RUNS THE GAMUT ALL THE WAY FROM YOUR, UH, BASIC, UH, BODY SUBSTANCE ISOLATION WITH GLOVES ALL THE WAY TO COTS, TO AMBULANCES, PERSONNEL, THESE PERSONNEL, A FIREFIGHTER IS AN EMT. 
          THERE ARE TWO OCCUPATIONS IN ONE. 
          SO ALL THOSE THINGS, IT'S COMPREHENSIVE. 
          IT IS AN ENORMOUS SCOPE OF WHAT EMS IS. 
          SO AS FAR AS CONCRETE NUMBERS, THAT'S CONCRETE, THOSE ARE NUMBERS ARE CONCRETE ON THAT PROPOSAL. 
          MM-HMM . 
          AND I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO NOTE THAT, UM, YOU KNOW, I HAD THIS SIM VERY SIMILAR CONVERSATION WITH, UM, SEVERAL PEOPLE INDIVIDUALLY AND, AND SLINGER, UM, INCLUDING THE CHIEF WHO'S HERE WITH US TODAY. 
          UM, AND THEY HAVE SOME VERY SPECIFIC CONCERNS TO MAKE SURE THAT, UM, THEIR MODEL, WHICH IS, IS UNIQUE TO THE REST OF THE COUNTY IS PROTECTED. 
          BUT THAT SAME CIRCUMSTANCE EXISTS IN 13 DIFFERENT COUNTIES. 
          WE, OR 13 DIFFERENT DEPARTMENTS. 
          WHAT WE CAN'T OUT OF ONE SIDE OF OUR MOUTH SAY WE WANT TO PROTECT LOCAL CONTROL, AND THEN OUT OF THE OTHER SIDE OF OUR MOUTH SAY, WELL, WE REALLY LIKE THIS MODEL AND WE, WE WANT YOU ALL TO FOLLOW IT. 
          LIKE, YOU DON'T GET TO DO BOTH OF THOSE THINGS. 
          YOU CAN DO ONE OR THE OTHER. 
          AND WE, IN THIS PROPOSAL, AND I THINK, UM, FROM OUR LAST DISCUSSION, PUBLIC SAFETY HAVE MADE IT PRETTY CLEAR WE WANT THEM TO HAVE LOCAL CONTROL. 
          AND I CAN TELL YOU THEY WERE DAMN CLEAR WITH US THROUGHOUT THIS PROCESS THAT THEY WANNA MAINTAIN THAT DECISION MAKING AUTHORITY. 
          SO I, I THINK 
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THE KEY FOR THE, WHAT YOU'RE ASKING, I THINK IS THE DEPARTMENT GRANT AT THE BOTTOM. 
          SO, SO BY MAKING IT SALES TAX SPECIFIC, A DEPARTMENT LIKE SLINGER, IT, IT DOESN'T MATTER WHAT THE DEPARTMENT DECIDES TO SPEND THOSE DOLLARS ON, THE DEPARTMENT CAN SPEND IT WHERE IT NEEDS TO DISPEN IT. 
          THAT'S AS LONG AS IT MEETS. 
          AND, AND WE'RE PLANNING TO FOLLOW, UH, THE STATE FAP PROCESS. 
          AS LONG AS IT MEETS THAT REQUIREMENT, THEY CAN, THEY CAN SPEND IT ON WHAT THEY WISH. 
          OKAY. 
          SO THEY'LL STILL BE GETTING SOME MONEY. 
          THE DEPARTMENT SPECIFICALLY, YES. 
          BUT IF THEY OPT OUT, THE TAXPAYERS STILL PAY FOR IT. 
          SURE. 
          BUT THEY DON'T GET ANY MONEY. 
          NO. 
          SO I, I'M GLAD, I GUESS I'M TRYING TO UNDERSTAND THAT PART OF IT. 
          WE HAVEN'T GOTTEN TO TALKING TO OPT OUT, BUT BEFORE WE GET TO OPT OUT, LET'S TALK ABOUT THE OTHER, THE 1.85 PLUS 500,000 THAT EQUALS 2.35. 
          SO WHEN YOU SAW THE NUMBER BEFORE OF 2.49 MM-HMM . 
          THAT, THAT 2.49 IS WHAT WE NEEDED TO GET BELOW IN ORDER TO MAKE A TAX RATE NEUTRAL. 
          WE GOT EVEN BELOW 2.49, WE GOT TO 2.35. 
          SO WE DID HIT THE NUMBER YOU WERE ASKING FOR. 
          WE JUST DID IT BY BRINGING SALES TAX AND TO COVER THE BALANCE. 
          THAT'S HOW NOW, SPECIFICALLY TO, TO TALK ABOUT WHAT DO YOU DO TO MAKE SURE THAT DEPART EVERYBODY'S HELD ACCOUNTABLE, IF YOU WILL. 
          UM, AND, AND THESE DOLLARS, IF SOMEBODY WANTS TO OPT OUT, I THAT, THAT REALLY IS SOMETHING THAT YOU AS A COMMITTEE HAVE TO DECIDE. 
          AND THE ILLUSTRATION THAT SUPERVISOR NEWMAN USED JUST A SECOND AGO OF 23 DEPARTMENTS RESPONDING TO A CALL IS AN IMPORTANT ONE BECAUSE YOU CAN PRETEND LIKE YOU'RE NOT GONNA PAY FOR THAT IN THIS COUNTY, BUT YOU VERY MUCH DO PAY FOR THAT IN THIS COUNTY. 
          AND SO IF WE'RE GOING TO LEVY A TAX, IF YOU DECIDE TO OPT OUT, WE CAN HAVE THE DISCUSSION WHETHER WE TAX THE COMMUNITY FOR THEIR PORTION OF IT. 
          BUT WHEN THE CALL COMES AND IT'S IN YOUR TOWN AND THE 23 DEPARTMENTS COME RUNNING TO YOU, YOU'RE GONNA CHIP IN TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY ALL WORK. 
          THE WHOLE POINT OF THE PROGRAM IS TO MAKE THE WHOLE SYSTEM WORK. 
          WE'RE NOT TRYING TO PICK A WINNER AND A LOSER. 
          YOU KNOW, NOT ONE DEPARTMENT IS BETTER THAN ANOTHER ONE, WHETHER IT'S WEST BEND, 'CAUSE THEY'RE THE HIGHEST LEVEL OF SERVICE IN THE COUNTY OR SLINGER BECAUSE THEY'VE GOT THE GOOD MODEL THEY'VE GOT. 
          WE'RE TRYING TO MAKE SURE THAT THE WHOLE SYSTEM CONTINUES TO THRIVE AND EVERYBODY RELIES ON ONE ANOTHER TO MAKE THAT WORK. 
          OKAY. 
          YOU GOT A LOT GOING THROUGH MY HEAD. 
          I BET YOU DO. 
          AND AARON, THE TOWN OF AARON IN PARTICULAR IS, IS AN IMPORTANT ONE. 
          'CAUSE YOU'VE GOT A FULL-TIME MUNICIPAL DEPARTMENT ON ONE SIDE. 
          YOU GOT HARTFORD, WHO'S A, WHO'S A HYBRID OF THE TWO ON THE OTHER SIDE. 
          AND THEN YOU GOT WAUKESHA AND DODGE COUNTY ON THE THIRD AND FOURTH SIDE. 
          SO THEY'RE DIFFERENT, DIFFERENT YET. 
          UM, BUT I THINK YOUR TOWN IS PROBABLY ONE OF THE BEST REASONS, NOT JUST IN THE COUNTY, BUT MAYBE IN THE STATE. 
          YOU'RE SERVED BY SO MANY DIFFERENT TYPES OF MODELS THAT, AND THAT'S, I'M WONDERING HOW WE'RE GONNA PAY FINANCIALLY BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE ANY SYSTEM THERE. 
          WE DEPEND UPON WHAT, THREE DIFFERENT SERVICES. 
          YES. 
          SO ARE WE GONNA PAY A LOT MORE IN OUR COMMUNITY? YOU'RE NOT, YOU'LL PAY THE SAME AS EVERY OTHER COMMUNITY IN THE COUNTY. 
          AND, AND, AND, AND REMEMBER, LIKE NO MATTER WHICH DEPARTMENT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT, OF THE 13, WE'RE NOT SEEING A WIDE, WIDE ARRAY OF INCREASES IN COST AS IF SOMEBODY'S FIGURED OUT A MAGIC FORMULA FOR HOW TO SAVE 5% A YEAR AND EVERYBODY ELSE IS INCREASING BY 10. 
          THEY'RE ALL IN THE NUMBERS. 
          YOU WOULD EXPECT THEY'RE, THOSE CONTRACTS ARE GOING UP, UP, UP EVERY YEAR. 
          SOME OF 'EM ARE ABLE TO HOLD IT TO TWO OR 3%. 
          OTHERS ARE CLOSER TO FIVE OR SIX, BUT IT'S, THEY'RE GOING UP. 
          COSTS EVERYWHERE ARE GOING UP. 
          ST. 
          LAWRENCE, I THINK JUST BOUGHT A BRAND NEW, UH, APPARATUS, $850,000 909 65. 
          9 65. 
          BOY, WHAT'S A HUNDRED THOUSAND AMONGST FRIENDS? UM, SO YEAH. 
          I MEAN, EVERY, THAT'S SLING. 
          THAT'S ST. 
          LAUREN'S FIRE COMPANY. 
          I MEAN, THEY'RE, THEY'RE TINY. 
          I MEAN, NOT QUITE AS TINY AS FILLMORE, BUT THEY'RE VERY SMALL. 
          UM, HAVING TO BUY A MILLION DOLLAR PIECE OF EQUIPMENT, THAT'S THE, THAT'S THE SITUATION. 
          THE PICKLE WE'RE IN. 
          SUPERVISOR BOSER. 
          I'M TRYING TO REMEMBER FROM OUR DISCUSSION A COUPLE WEEKS AGO, UH, WHERE I MET WITH MIKE AND, UM, DAVE AND AARON. 
          UM, THE DEPARTMENT SHARE, IS THAT SPLIT AMONG ONLY THESE SEVEN PRIVATE FIRE DEPARTMENTS OR IS THAT ALL 13? ALL 13 GET OKAY. 
          A SHARE. 
          YES. 
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AND I THINK THE VOLUNTEER ONLY SUPPORTS THE SEVEN PRIVATE VOLUNTEERS. 
          YEAH. 
          WE HAVE SEVEN PRIVATE FIRE COMPANIES. 
          YES. 
          YEAH. 
          OKAY. 
          ALL RIGHT. 
          THANK YOU. 
          MM-HMM . 
          OKAY. 
          BEFORE WE MOVE ON, I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE IT'S THAT SUPERVISOR PRIER UNDERSTANDS THE BREAKDOWN OF WHERE THE MONEY COMES FROM AND WHERE IT GOES. 
          YEAH, I'M UNDERSTANDING IT. 
          OKAY. 
          BECAUSE 'CAUSE YOU HAD QUESTIONS. 
          I'LL BE SHARING THAT WITH OTHER COMMUNITIES HAVE BEEN ASKING ME. 
          I HAVE HAD QUITE A FEW PEOPLE, I CAN'T BELIEVE IT, BUT, WELL, THAT RIGHT THERE ACCOMPLISHED WHAT WE GAVE DIRECTIVE AT OUR LAST MEETING, RIGHT. 
          TO GET THE TAX RATE NEUTRAL BY THEM. 
          NUMBERS CHANGING. 
          SO IF THAT'S YOUR QUESTION, WHY THEY CHANGED, BECAUSE WE DIRECTED THEM TO DO THAT. 
          MM-HMM . 
          THAT'S WHERE THOSE NUMBERS COME FROM. 
          OH. 
          AND WERE THOSE MEETINGS, UM, ON YOUTUBE, WERE THEY VIDEOED THE ONES, THE SESSIONS THAT YOU HAD, THE OPEN SESSION THEY WERE ON, THEY WERE, UH, ON THE INTERNET. 
          I DON'T KNOW WHERE THE COUNTY DID NOT RECORD THEM. 
          OKAY. 
          BUT THEY WERE PUBLIC, THEY WERE PUBLICIZED. 
          ANY MORE QUESTIONS ON THAT? OKAY. 
          THEN BASED ON THE PROPOSAL THAT WE HAVE IN FRONT OF US HERE, UH, WOULD WE LIKE A CONSENSUS OR A MOTION ON THAT? UM, WE'LL TAKE A CONSENSUS IF THIS IS WHAT WE WOULD LIKE TO BE PRESENTED DOWN. 
          MOVED ON TO THE COUNTY BOARD FOR CONSIDERATION AND, UH, PRESENTATION. 
          YEAH, I'M GOOD WITH IT. 
          I'M GOOD WITH IT. 
          I, I'M STILL GONNA REFRAIN BECAUSE I'M GONNA SPEAK WITH MY CONSTITUENTS AND SEE IF THEY'RE, UH, HAPPY WITH IT. 
          OKAY. 
          UH, I WILL SUPPORT IT AS WELL. 
          SO WE HAVE A MAJORITY CONSENSUS TO MOVE FORWARD WITH, UH, THIS CURRENT PROPOSAL. 
          SO THEN WE'LL, WE'LL MOVE ON TO THE NEXT ITEM, WHICH SHOULD BE THE SMART GOALS. 
          YES. 
          BEFORE, YOU HAVE SEVEN SMART GOALS THAT ARE MEASURABLES AND HOPEFULLY ACHIEVABLE THROUGHOUT THE PROCESS. 
          NOW IT'S A LIVING DOCUMENT, AS MANY SMART GOALS ARE. 
          UM, IT DOES TAKE TIME ONCE WE IMPLEMENT THEM, BUT, UH, OUR HOPE IS THAT, UH, THESE ARE ACHIEVABLE AND THAT WE CAN REPORT BACK TO YOU THAT, UH, THE, UH, SYSTEM THAT WE HOPEFULLY PLAN TO DEVELOP, UH, WE CAN MEET. 
          SO, UH, JUST WANNA MAKE SURE EVERYONE'S FOLLOWING ALONG HERE. 
          UH, SMART GOAL ONE, OPERATING DEBT AND REFERENDUM AVOIDANCE. 
          SO OBVIOUSLY WITH THIS PRO PROGRAM, WE HOPE THAT THROUGH THIS PROCESS THAT THERE WILL NOT BE ANY REFERENDUMS OR OPERATIONAL BORROWING TO MEET THE NEEDS OF OUR COMMUNITIES, UH, GIVEN THE DYNAMICS THAT YOU ARE PRESENTING TO THEM WITH THE ANNUAL INCREASES, UH, THAT DUE DATE OBVIOUSLY SET FOR TWO, THREE YEARS AFTER THE, UH, PROGRAM HAS STOOD UP. 
          UH, SMART GOAL NUMBER TWO, DOCUMENTED COST SAVINGS FROM FIRE AND EMS CHIEFS, FIVE AND 10 YEAR PRODUCTION, UH, PROJECTIONS. 
          UM, YOU'LL RECALL THAT CHART THAT WE HAD WITH THE BLUE LINE AND THE YELLOW LINE. 
          I'M SORRY, SUPERVISOR. 
          YEAH. 
          SO I MIGHT BE HELPFUL TO JUST GO THROUGH THESE ONE AT A TIME. 
          OH, SURE. 
          I CAN STOP AFTER EACH ONE. 
          CERTAINLY. 
          UM, SO THE DUE DATE, DOES THAT MEAN THAT COMMUNITIES COULD BORROW BEFORE THE DUE DATE AND IT'S ONLY AFTER THE DUE DATE THAT THEY CAN'T BORROW AND THEY COULD REFERENDUM BEFORE THE DUE DATE, BUT ONLY AFTER THE DUE DATE? THEY COULD NOT REFERENDUM. 
          I, I DON'T THINK WE'RE, WE'RE NOT LIMITING COMMUNITIES RESTRICTING THEM FROM THAT'S NOT THE, THE GOAL HERE. 
          THAT'S NOT THE GOAL. 
          WE'RE NOT RESTRICTING ANYBODY. 
          IT'S JUST THE GOAL. 
          RIGHT. 
          BUT IT, BUT THE GOAL IS TIED TO THE FINANCIAL INCENTIVES. 
          SO TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION DIRECTLY IS WE, IN THE FIRST DRAFTS, IT WAS MUCH EARLIER, THE REASON WE PUT IT AT THE, THAT PARTICULAR YEAR IS BECAUSE IF YOU RECALL, WE TALKED ABOUT HAVING SIMILAR TO OUR PUBLIC HEALTH, UM, CONTRACT, AN 18 MONTH OUT CLAUSE. 
          SO BY HAVING THAT SPECIFIC YEAR, YOU'RE AT THE END OF THE THIRD YEAR, AND NOW IN THE SIX, NEXT SIX MONTHS, YOU CAN DECIDE, DID THAT WORK? OR DID IT NOT WORK? DID, DID WE SEE REFERENDUMS? DID WE SEE OPERATIONAL BORROWING? OR DID WE NOT? IF THE ANSWER IS NO TO BOTH OF THOSE, CHECK OFF ON SMART GOAL NUMBER ONE, YOU DON'T HAVE TO GIVE NOTICE IN THE NEXT SIX MONTHS. 
          DOES THAT MAKE SENSE? SO FROM A NOTICE STANDPOINT, THAT MAKES SENSE. 
          YES. 
          BUT REMEMBER, SMART GOALS ARE GOING TO BE TIED TO WHETHER OR NOT THEY GET INCREASES. 
          THAT'S RIGHT. 
          AND JUST, SO JUST LIKE OUR STRATEGIC PRIORITIES, YOU CAN RE-UP THEM AND CONTINUE THEM, OR YOU CAN SAY, WE'VE MET THAT ONE, WE WANNA REPLACE IT WITH A DIFFERENT ONE. 
          OR WE WANT TO KEEP IT AND WE'LL ADD, ADD TO THE STACK, BUT YOU'RE NOT LETTING ME GET TO MY, OR WE'RE MISCOMMUNICATING WHAT, SO WITH THE GOAL, YOU HAVE A DATE THAT 
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YOU HAVE TO ACHIEVE IT BY, OR YOU DON'T GET THE INCENTIVE. 
          SO MY QUESTION IS, LET'S SAY COMMUNITY X DECIDES TO DO A REFERENDUM, AT WHAT POINT WOULD THAT REFERENDUM SPOIL THE GOAL? SO THAT WE WOULD NOT OFFER THE INCREASE AS THE INCENTIVE ANYTIME BE IN THE FIRST THREE YEARS. 
          SO, OKAY. 
          GOTCHA. 
          SO IT'S FIRST THREE YEARS ANYTIME BEFORE 20 DECEMBER 31ST, 2029. 
          YES. 
          IF THEY GO TO REFERENDUM, THAT ESSENTIALLY SPOILS THE INCREASE. 
          YES. 
          GOTCHA. 
          IN OTHER WORDS, THEY'VE, IF THEY GO TO REFERENDUM OR THEY, THEY BORROW FOR OPERATIONS, THEY'RE SAYING, I NEED MORE TAXES THAN, THAN THIS PROGRAM IS HELPING US WITH. 
          AND I THINK OUR ANSWER IS, WELL THEN WHY DO YOU NEED OURS? YEAH. 
          RIGHT. 
          I THINK WE'RE SAYING THE SAME THING. 
          CORRECT. 
          OKAY. 
          YEAH. 
          YES. 
          SO, YEP. 
          OKAY. 
          AND WHEN YOU SAY OPERATIONAL BORROWING, ARE YOU TALKING FIRE AND EMS OPERATIONAL OR ARE YOU TALKING ANY MUNICIPAL GOVERNMENT OPERATIONAL . 
          I SEE YOU SMILING. 
          WELL, I'M SMILING BECAUSE IT MONEY'S FUNGIBLE AND IT'S HARD TO PROVE A NEGATIVE. 
          UM, SO I THINK WE JUST WOULD HAVE TO, THAT'S WHY I PUT IT A LITTLE BIT FARTHER OUT. 
          YOU'RE GONNA HAVE TO DO SOME EVALUATING AT THE COMMITTEE LEVEL TO TRY AND ASCERTAIN, YOU KNOW, THEY BORROWED A MILLION DOLLARS FOR EQUIPMENT OR FOR ROADS, AND ALL OF A SUDDEN, MAGICALLY WE GOT FIVE NEW FULL-TIME FIREFIGHTER PARAMEDICS. 
          BOY, HOW DID THAT HAPPEN? , YOU KNOW, THAT'S NOT HARD TO FIGURE OUT. 
          YEAH. 
          UM, BUT, BUT THE BEAUTY IS THIS GIVES YOU THAT TIME AND THAT FIRST THREE YEARS AND THEN YOU DECIDE AFTER THAT, I MEAN, THREE YEARS FROM NOW YOU COULD, YOU'RE ON YOUR SECOND STATE BUDGET, YOU MIGHT HAVE A TOTALLY DIFFERENT SET OF CIRCUMSTANCES. 
          YEAH. 
          YEAH. 
          SO IDEALLY WHAT WE'RE REALLY SAYING IS NO OPERATIONAL, UM, BORROWING TO FUND FIRE EMS OPERATIONS. 
          YES. 
          UNDERSTANDING THAT MONEY'S FUNGIBLE AND WE DON'T WANT, YOU KNOW. 
          YEAH. 
          GOTCHA. 
          OKAY. 
          OKAY. 
          ANY OTHER QUESTIONS ON GOAL ONE? YEAH, I WANT TO ASK THEM. 
          YES, SIR. 
          IF WHAT, WHAT IF YOU REFERENCED COLESVILLE BEFORE AND THAT WE MIGHT BE TOO LATE TO HELP 'EM MM-HMM . 
          SO WHAT IF 12 OF THE 13 DEPARTMENTS MEET THAT GOAL AND CLOSE THE CAN AND THEY BORROW OR HAVE A REFERENDUM OR DO WHATEVER TO STAY, TO STAY ALIVE. 
          DOES THAT RUIN IT FOR EVERYBODY OR, SO THE BEAUTY OF THE PROGRAM, THE LAST PART OF, OF THE PROPOSAL YOU GUYS APPROVED LAST TIME, WHERE YOU'VE GOT THAT RANGE OF INCREASES, THAT VERY QUESTION WILL HAVE TO COME BACK TO THIS BODY. 
          AND THEN YOU'RE GONNA HAVE TO WEIGH, SO IT'S BY OUR DISCRETION. 
          CORRECT. 
          THE PUBLIC SAFETY COMMITTEE AND ULTIMATELY THE COUNTY BOARD HAVE THAT DECISION AUTHORITY. 
          SO EVEN THOUGH ONE DEPARTMENT MAY STILL BE STRUGGLING YEP. 
          NOT MEETING ALL THE GOALS, WE HAVE TO LOOK AT IT AS A WHOLE. 
          THAT'S RIGHT. 
          YES. 
          SO WE, WE COULD EXERCISE THE DISCRETION TO SAY WE UNDERSTOOD THEY WERE IN BAD SHAPE WHEN THIS WAS STARTING. 
          THAT'S RIGHT. 
          AND SO WE'RE GOING TO FORGIVE THAT INSTANCE. 
          RIGHT. 
          SIMILARLY, THERE MAY BE A DEPARTMENT THAT SAYS, HEY, WE GOTTA, WE'VE BEEN PAYING ON PREMISE ALL THIS TIME. 
          THIS MANY PEOPLE, WE'RE GONNA GO TO A ONE FULL-TIME PERSON TO REPLACE SOME OF THAT. 
          IT, IT DOES HAVE AN INCREASE FOR US AND THIS IS HOW WE'RE COVERING IT. 
          AND YOU CAN EVALUATE WELL IN THAT CASE, DOES IT MAKE SENSE? DOES IT FIT WITHIN WHAT WE WERE TRYING TO ACCOMPLISH OR NOT? YEAH. 
          LIKE YOU HAVE, YOU HAVE SOME GIVE AND TAKE AND THEY HAVE SOME GIVE AND TAKE. 
          YEAH. 
          AND, AND YET YOU DON'T HAVE CONTROL, WHICH IS WHAT THEY WANT TO AVOID. 
          YEP. 
          OKAY. 
          YOU LIKE THAT SUPERVISOR? YEAH. 
          YEAH. 
          YOU LIKE THAT , ANY OTHER QUESTIONS ON SMART GOAL TWO OR ONE? EXCUSE ME. 
          IT'S THE BEAUTY OF, OF THE LADDERED PERCENTAGES YOU GUYS BUILT. 
          I MEAN, BY DOING THAT, YOU GAVE THIS COMMITTEE A LOT OF AUTHORITY. 
          SUPERVISOR. 
          TOMAS GOT A QUESTION. 
          UH, MY, MY QUESTION IS, UH, ON THESE SMART GOALS, WHO'S GONNA MONITOR THAT? THEY ACHIEVED THESE? I WILL BE, HE'S DOING IT FOR FREE TOO. 
          'CAUSE YOU GOT RID OF THE ADMINISTRATOR. 
          CUT MY SALARY. 
          RIGHT. 
          I'LL BE WORKING ALONGSIDE THE CHIEFS. 
          YEAH. 
          AND YOU ARE WHO? THE VOLUNTEER CHIEF PUBLIC SAFETY OFFICER, THE VOLUNTEER CHIEF PUBLIC SAFETY OFFICER. 
          AND HE'LL, HE'LL REPORT BACK TO THE PUBLIC SAFETY COMMITTEE. 
          YES. 
          OKAY. 
          I WOULD ANTICIPATE YOU CAN YOU, IT WILL BE SIMILAR TO, UM, THE QUARTERLY UPDATES THAT YOU GET FROM EVERY DEPARTMENT. 
          NOW, UH, ON YOUR MONTHLY MEETINGS, EVERY QUARTER YOU'LL GET A SIMILAR, HEY, THIS IS WHAT'S HAPPENING. 
          AND I THINK THAT WOULD BE GOOD. 
          YEP. 
          YOU LIKE THAT SUPERVISOR PRIMER? YEAH. 
          YEAH. 
          I THINK THAT WOULD BE A, A SMART IDEA. 
          OKAY. 
          HENCE THE SMART GOALS. 
          . 
          ALL RIGHT. 
          NUMBER TWO, WE'LL MOVE ON. 
          NUMBER TWO, DOCUMENTED COST SAVINGS FROM FIRE EMS CHIEFS FROM THEIR FIVE AND 10 YEAR PROJECTIONS. 
          SO THAT WAS THAT CHART THAT, UH, THE CHIEF INTEGR, UH, INNOVATION OFFICER PUT TOGETHER WITH, UH, THE 
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BLUE AND YELLOW LINED CHART. 
          SO THE BLUE LINE WAS THE CHIEFS AND THE YELLOW LINE WAS THE NET NEW CONSTRUCTION AVAILABLE FOR OUR COMMUNITIES. 
          YES. 
          THAT'S IN THE ONE PAGER THAT'S YOU GUYS HAVE IN FRONT OF YOU AS WELL IN YOUR PACKET. 
          SO THAT'S, THAT'S GONNA BE AN OBJECTIVE, UH, ANOTHER SMART GOAL. 
          AND OBVIOUSLY THOSE ARE, THOSE ARE CHALLENGING OBJECTIVES. 
          RIGHT. 
          BUT, UH, IT'S JUST A GOAL, RIGHT? SO IF WE CAN ACHIEVE IT, JUST LIKE THE EXECUTIVE HAS STATED, YOU KNOW, IT WOULD BE AT, AT YOUR DISCRETION AND FOR YOUR REVIEW. 
          SO, SO THE REASON WE, WE HAD A LOT OF BACK AND FORTH ON THIS PARTICULAR ONE, BUT AT OUR LAST MEETING, WHAT I HEARD WAS YOU DON'T WANT TO JUST RAISE THE GOLD LINE AND SOLVE IT WITH REVENUE, LIKE PRIORITY BASED BUDGETING, YOU WANT TO SEE THINGS THAT START PULLING DOWN THE BLUE LINE AS WELL. 
          AND THIS IS A 5% AVERAGE OVER THE, THE THREE YEARS TO BEGIN WITH. 
          UM, SO IT COULD BE ZERO IN YEAR ONE, IT MIGHT BE 15 IN YEAR TWO AND NOW, AND YOU'RE GOOD, RIGHT? UM, SO THERE MAY BE YEARS WHERE IT'S UP AND YEARS WHERE IT'S DOWN. 
          AND AGAIN, EVERY YEAR YOU'RE GONNA BE, EVERY QUARTER YOU'LL GET UPDATES, BUT EVERY YEAR YOU'LL BE ABLE TO EVALUATE, WELL, IS THE, IS IT HITTING 5%? ARE WE AT FOUR, 4%? IS THAT GOOD ENOUGH? UM, SIMILAR TO HOW WE'VE DONE OTHER THINGS. 
          OKAY. 
          ANY QUESTIONS ON THAT ONE? OKAY. 
          SMART GOAL NUMBER THREE. 
          THIS IS, UH, THIS IS A EXTREMELY IMPORTANT ONE. 
          THE VOLUNTEER RECRUITMENT AND RETENTION EFFORT. 
          AND, UH, YOU CAN SEE THE NUMBERS THAT INCORPORATED THERE WITH, UH, INCLUDING CREATING AN 80% ACTIVE ROSTER. 
          SO WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO DIG DEEPER INTO THAT IN WITH EACH DEPARTMENT TO IDENTIFY WHAT THEIR ACTIVE ROSTERS ARE, WHAT THEIR GOALS ARE, WHAT THEY'RE TRYING TO ACHIEVE, IF THEY'RE MAINTAINING THINGS OF THAT NATURE. 
          SO THAT ONE, THAT ONE'S, UH, GONNA BE A MOVING TARGET. 
          BUT, UH, OBVIOUSLY I, MY OBJECTIVE IS TO INCREASE THE VOLUNTEERS THROUGHOUT THE COUNTY SOMEHOW, SOME WAY IN, UH, THAT, THAT, UH, INCENTIVE PROGRAM. 
          WE STILL HAVE TO WORK ALONGSIDE THE, THE CHIEFS IN EACH DEPARTMENT, UH, SIMPLY BECAUSE IT, FOR EXAMPLE, IN THE VILLAGE OF SLINGER, THEY USE WHAT THEY REFER TO AS A LOA, A LENGTH OF SERVICE AWARD PROGRAM THAT THEY FUND WITH THEIR VOLUNTEERS. 
          AND IT'S, IT'S, UH, TIERED GOLD, SILVER, BRONZE, THINGS OF THAT NATURE. 
          NOT EVERY COMMUNITY HAS SOMETHING TO THAT DEGREE. 
          SO WORKING ALONGSIDE OUR FIRE CHIEFS AND JUST TRYING TO DEVELOP SOMETHING THAT IS UNIFORM OR MAYBE NOT SO UNIFORM AND WHAT WORKS IN THEIR COMMUNITY AND FOR THEIR DEPARTMENT. 
          OH, SUPERVISOR. 
          PARDON? UM, MY QUESTION, UM, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT VOLUNTEERS AND DO WE HAVE ALL THE DISPATCHERS WE HAVE FOR OUR COUNTY HERE AND THE EMS, YOU KNOW, AT THE, UH, THAT RECEIVED THE 9 1 1 CALL? CITY OF WEST BEND AND THE COUNTY. 
          YEAH. 
          CITY OF WEST BEND. 
          SO ARE YOU ASKING IF WE'RE FULLY STAFFED, OR DO WE, I MEAN, WE HAVE ALL THE DISPATCHERS THAT WE NEED. 
          ARE WE SHORT OF DISPATCHERS? WE'RE STILL, WE'RE STILL NOT FULLY STAFFED. 
          OH, OKAY. 
          SO, OKAY. 
          AND, BUT WE WANNA GET THAT'S NOT, THAT'S NOT REALLY RELATED TO THIS HERE. 
          THIS IS, OKAY. 
          I'M GETTING THIS. 
          THAT'S A COMPLETELY SEPARATE, YEAH. 
          THIS PARTICULAR GOAL, I WILL SAY IN THE LISTENING SESSIONS, UM, WE PROBABLY HAD FOUR OR FIVE PEOPLE WHO SAID, WHY IS THAT ONLY 500,000? YOU SHOULD MAKE THAT A LOT MORE. 
          BECAUSE IF YOU THINK ABOUT THIS PROGRAM, THE MAKE OR BREAK, I MEAN, FROM A MUNICIPAL SIDE, THAT THOSE INCREASES EVERY YEAR ARE MAKE OR BREAK. 
          BUT FOR THE WHOLE OF THE SYSTEM, THE WAY THE SYSTEM REALLY THRIVES IS THE MORE VOLUNTEERS, THE MORE PAID ON CALL TO MAKE MORE PAID ON PREMISE YOU HAVE, BECAUSE THEY'RE THE BACKBONE. 
          AND THEN, AND THEN YOU'VE GOT PARAMEDICS COMING FROM WEST BEND AND GERMANTOWN AND, UH, SO FORTH THAT ARE HELPING. 
          THEY DON'T GET STRETCHED TOO THIN IF YOU HAVE ENOUGH PAID ON CALL, PAID ON PREMISE AND VOLUNTEER. 
          SO IF WE'RE ABLE TO BACK THEM UP, UM, IT, THAT'S A HUGE ADVANTAGE FOR WASHINGTON COUNTY. 
          IT'S THE OPPOSITE OF WHAT YOU'RE SEEING IN MOST OF THE REST OF THE COUNTRY. 
          UH, A QUICK STATEMENT ON THAT, THE 23 FIRE DEPARTMENTS I MENTIONED EARLIER, AND THE 15 VOLUNTEERS, THOSE EIGHT PAID FIRE DEPARTMENTS WOULDN'T HAVE DONE THE JOB WITHOUT THE 15 VOLUNTEER FIRE DEPARTMENTS. 
          SO THAT'S WHY THIS IS VERY IMPORTANT AND SUPPORTED BY THOSE PAID DEPARTMENTS AS WELL COME FORWARD FROM THE UNION AS WELL. 
          SO IT'S IMPORTANT TO ALL OF THEM TO, TO FUND THAT AND CONTINUE TO RECRUIT THAT VOLUNTEERISM. 
          SO YOU HAD ANOTHER QUESTION? UM, YEAH, I'LL GET, WELL, I FEEL LIKE, YOU KNOW, LET'S MAKE SURE, LET'S WORK WITH THIS AND MAKE SURE IT WORKS. 
          I MEAN, THAT'S THE MOST IMPORTANT THING, RIGHT? ABSOLUTELY. 
          AND I, I'M HOPING THIS WORKS BECAUSE WE DO NEED RECRUITMENT FOR SURE. 
          I MEAN, THAT'S, WE'RE LACKING IN THAT AREA. 
          YES. 
          MM-HMM. 
          ABSOLUTELY. 
          THANK YOU FOR YOUR SUPPORT 
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SUPERVISOR, TOMA. 
          UH, THE QUESTION THAT I HAVE IS, UH, ON THE, THE 500,000 FOR THE VOLUNTEER, IS THERE SOMEWHERE DOWN THE LINE THAT IF THAT WE COULD FUND THAT SOME MORE? OR DO WE HAVE TO GO LOOK AT THIS WHOLE THING AGAIN? THE COMMITTEE WOULD HAVE, UH, TWO OPTIONS. 
          I WOULD SAY. 
          UM, YOU CERTAINLY COULD FUND IT SOME MORE. 
          UM, IN 2028, FOR EXAMPLE, UH, TO SUPERVISOR PRIDE MORE'S PART. 
          IF YOU SEE IT FOR A YEAR AND YOU SAY, HEY, THIS ISN'T REALLY WORKING, WE SHOULD PUT MORE MONEY TO IT. 
          AND THEN YOUR OPTIONS COULD BE, YOU COULD INCREASE THE EMS LEVY PORTION TO COVER THAT A LITTLE BIT MORE. 
          OR YOU COULD SAY, SIMILAR TO HOW WE'VE DONE WITH HAR AND HOMESTEAD, WE'RE GONNA TAKE, YOU KNOW, ONE TIME MONEY AND WE'RE GONNA ALLOCATE IT AND SEE IF WE CAN REALLY BOOST IT FOR YEAR. 
          AND IF THAT WORKS, MAYBE WE DO IT AGAIN. 
          OR MAYBE NOW WE HAVE A PERMANENT REVENUE SOURCE. 
          SO YOU, YOU WILL HAVE OPTIONS BASED ON ACTUAL RESULTS. 
          AND THEN AGAIN, IT'S THE COMMITTEE AND THE COUNTY BOARD THAT ARE THE ONES THAT ARE REALLY GONNA HAVE THE DECISION MAKING AUTHORITY. 
          I THINK THAT'S A GOOD POINT, BECAUSE IF WE'RE MEETING THE GOAL OF INCREASING VOLUNTEERISM, THEN WE NEED TO CONSIDER INCREASING THAT. 
          SO IT'S SPREAD OUT, YOU KNOW, THOSE VOLUNTEERS INCREASE THE NUMBERS INCREASE. 
          SO GO. 
          ARE THERE THERE ANY GRANTS, UM, FROM THE STATE OF WISCONSIN OR MAYBE EVEN FEDERAL ON THIS ISSUE? NOT NONE THAT I KNOW OF. 
          SUPERVISOR. 
          THAT'S SOMETHING. 
          BUT, YOU KNOW, WE JUST HAD WITH NEXT GENERATION HOUSING, THE, UH, CONGRESSMAN GERALD IN TOWN REPLICATING THAT PROGRAM. 
          IT'S, I THINK IT'S DISTINCTLY POSSIBLE IF THIS WORKS, WE COULD GET LEGISLATORS LEGISLATING TO REPRESENT, REFLECT THAT, GIVE US A GRANT TO MAKE IT EVEN BETTER. 
          I REALLY DO. 
          AND I THINK H AND H, HAR HAR, UH, AND HOMESTEAD SHOWS YOU THIS PROGRAM WORKS. 
          IT'S JUST NOW WE'RE APPLYING IT SPECIFICALLY TO VOLUNTEER FIRE. 
          SO LET'S SEE IF IT WORKS THERE TOO. 
          ESSENTIALLY, SUPERVISOR, WHAT WE'RE DOING AT THE COUNTY LEVEL IS ESTABLISHING THAT GRANT, JUST AS EXACTLY THE EXECUTIVE SAID, PROOF OF CONCEPT. 
          PROOF OF CONCEPT. 
          AND I JUST WANT TO SPEAK TO WHAT YOU MAKE SURE IT'S WORKING FIRST. 
          RIGHT. 
          I JUST WANNA SPEAK A LITTLE BIT TO WHAT YOU SAID EARLIER ABOUT OTHER COUNTIES DOING YES, THERE ARE OTHER COUNTIES THAT DO IT. 
          WHAT YOU'RE CONSIDERING. 
          THIS IS REVOLUTIONARY. 
          THIS IS PIONEERING SOMETHING THAT'S NEVER BEEN DONE IN THIS FORMAT. 
          THIS IS A FLAGSHIP PIECE OF LEGISLATION YOU'RE LOOKING AT. 
          THIS IS EXTRAORDINARY. 
          YEAH. 
          SO MUCH SO THAT I'D ENCOURAGE YOU TO, I THINK, YOU KNOW, SHERIFF DALE SCHMIDT OVER IN DODGE COUNTY, UH, I'D ENCOURAGE YOU TO CALL HIM 'CAUSE WE'VE TALKED TO HIM SEVERAL TIMES. 
          WHEN WHEN WE'RE DONE, WHEN WE'RE DONE, THEY'RE GONNA MIMIC WHAT WE'RE GONNA, WHAT WE'RE DOING, CUT AND PASTE. 
          RACINE COUNTY, JEFFERSON COUNTY, THEY'RE ALL TALKING TO ME. 
          SO IT'S, IT'S GREAT. 
          SO LET'S, LET'S MOVE ON TO, TO NUMBER FOUR, UH, REGIONAL AND OR JOINT COLLABORATION STUDIES. 
          SO, UH, IN THIS SMART GOAL, UH, COMPLETE TWO TARGETED REGIONAL JOINT COLLABORATION, COST SAVINGS AND RELATED TIMELINES FOR EXECUTION, AS WELL AS CAPITAL NEEDS FOR IMPLEMENTATION. 
          UH, DEVELOP UNIFORM MULTI-AGENCY POLICIES, INCLUDING JPA, MOUS, AND DOCUMENTED RELATED SAVINGS. 
          SO BASICALLY SPEAKING, AS THE EXECUTIVE REFERRED TO EARLIER, WE ALREADY HAVE THE KIOSKI AND WEST BEND MODEL THAT'S WORKING EXTRAORDINARILY WELL. 
          UH, SOUTH OF 60. 
          UH, WE HAVE, UH, THOSE FOUR AGENCIES THAT ARE CURRENTLY COMMUNICATING WITH ONE ANOTHER. 
          UM, I'M NOT GOING TO SAY THIS, I WANT THE EXECUTIVE TO SPEAK TO WHAT HE, UH, INDICATED TO THE CHIEF ELECTED OFFICIALS REGARDING THOSE STUDIES. 
          UH, MY THOUGHT HERE IS SIMILAR TO HOW YOU'VE HANDLED OTHER MERGERS AND, AND THINGS LIKE THAT WITH US IN, UM, OZAKI COUNTY WITH THE HEALTH DEPARTMENT, IF THERE'S A IDEA THAT MAKES SENSE, WE PUT ONE TIME MONEY FORWARD TO HELP INCENTIVIZE AND MAKE THE, MAKE THE COLLABORATION, CONSOLIDATION, SHARED SERVICE, WHATEVER YOU WANT TO CALL IT, WORK. 
          SO I'LL GIVE YOU TWO ILLUSTRATIONS THAT I THINK ARE VERY, VERY PLAUSIBLE. 
          UM, AND THEN A THIRD THAT IS OFF THE WALL, BUT WOULD FIT THE, FIT THE BILL, THE KIOSK, WEST BEND MODEL. 
          IF, IF THAT WAS HAPPENING ACTIVELY, UH, WITH COLESVILLE, FOR EXAMPLE, THEY, THEY COULD COME HERE AND SAY, HEY, WE NEED MONEY TO GET THIS STUDY DONE. 
          WE'LL GET THE STUDY. 
          IF WE CAN PROVE TO YOU THROUGH THE STUDY THAT IT WORKS, WILL GIVE, GIVE US A LITTLE FUNDING TO MAKE IT, TO GET IT KICK STARTED. 
          UM, AND THEN YOU'LL HAVE THE DECISION MAKING AUTHORITY. 
          YEP, IT WILL WORK. 
          WE THINK IT WON'T WORK, AND IF WE THINK IT WILL WORK, HERE'S SOME DOLLARS TO MAKE IT HAPPEN AND SAVE THE TAXPAYER IN THE LONG HAUL. 
          THE OTHER EXAMPLE THAT I KNOW IS ALREADY BEING DISCUSSED IS A REGIONAL COLLABORATION OR PARTNERSHIP ON THE SOUTHERN SIDE OF THE COUNTY. 
          SO AARON WOULD BE RIGHT IN THE HEART OF, UH, HARTFORD, RICHFIELD, GERMANTOWN, AND JACKSON HAVING CONVERSATIONS ABOUT HOW DO THEY ALL WORK AS 
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ONE UNIT TOGETHER, UM, THAT COULD BE STUDIED AND THAT STUDY COULD COME BEFORE YOU TO, TO HELP YOU MAKE THAT DECISION AS WELL. 
          AND THEN, YOU KNOW, I I THINK THERE'S SEVERAL REGIONAL AREAS WHERE IT MAKES SENSE. 
          I KNOW THIS CHIEF IN WEST BEND IS TALKING TO MULTIPLE DEPARTMENTS. 
          I KNOW THE I 41 CORRIDOR FROM SLINGER ALL THE WAY UP TO THE COUNTY LINE IS ANOTHER AREA. 
          THOSE ARE ALL POSSIBLE AREAS WHERE THEY COULD COME TO YOU AND SAY, HEY, WE WANT TO DO A STUDY TO SEE HOW DO WE WORK BETTER TOGETHER, REGIONALIZE SHARED SERVICES. 
          AND, AND IT'S AT YOUR DISCRETION HOW THAT MOVES FORWARD. 
          BUT ALL AIMED AT PULLING THAT BLUE LINE DOWN. 
          I WILL SAY ONE THING REGARDING WHAT THE EXECUTIVES STATED ABOUT THE, IF KI WAS, EXCUSE ME, KIOSK AND WEST BEND WERE ACTIVE CURRENTLY, THAT WOULD BE SOMETHING WE WOULD CONSIDER. 
          I CAN TELL YOU THAT THEY'VE ASKED ME THAT SEEING THEY DID SUCH A GOOD JOB, THEY WOULD SEE IF WE WOULD RETROACTIVELY SEE IF WE CAN DO SOMETHING FOR THEM. 
          SO JUST FOR CONSIDERATION. 
          OKAY, SO THIS STUDY, UM, WHO'S, WHO'S DOING THIS STUDY? I GUESS THERE, THERE'S NO STUDY RIGHT NOW. 
          SUPERVISOR. 
          OKAY. 
          OH, OKAY. 
          JUST WHAT, WHAT THE EXECUTIVE'S SAYING IS THAT IF THERE'S A REASONABLE IDEA CONCEPT OUT THERE OKAY. 
          THAT WE WOULD BRING THAT BEFORE YOU FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION FOR ONE TIME FUNDING. 
          THERE IS NO STUDY CURRENTLY ONGOING RIGHT NOW. 
          OKAY. 
          IF YOU REMEMBER WHEN WE DID THE, THE BIG STUDY OF THE FOLD DEPARTMENT, UH, ALL 13 DEPARTMENTS, ALL, ALL COUNTYWIDE, WE CAME TO YOU AND ASKED FOR ONE TIME MONEY TO HELP PAY FOR THAT STUDY. 
          IT WOULD BE THE SAME TYPE OF A PROCESS. 
          OH, OKAY. 
          THEY'D, WE'D COME TO YOU AND SAY, HERE'S THE STUDY, HERE'S HOW MUCH IT COSTS, HERE'S WHO WE THINK WE'LL USE. 
          CAN WE, CAN WE HAVE SOME HELP DOING THAT? THAT'S, THAT'S THE THEORY. 
          JUST AN I JUST AN IDEA. 
          OKAY. 
          OKAY. 
          NEXT. 
          OKAY. 
          UH, SMART GOAL NUMBER FIVE, APPARATUS MAINTENANCE AND REPLACEMENT STRATEGY. 
          SO BASICALLY WE, WE WRITE A WHITE PAPER, BUT IN SHORT, IT'S, IT'S, IT'S SELF-EXPLANATORY. 
          WE HAVE AN AMAZING HIGHWAY SHOP THAT HAS AN AMAZING SPACE WITH AN AMAZING TEAM. 
          UH, RIGHT NOW, UH, THE MAJORITY OF OUR AGENCIES CONTRACT OUT THE SERVICES THAT THEY NEED FOR REGULAR MAINTENANCE ON THEIR EQUIPMENT. 
          UH, BUT POTENTIALLY HAVING THAT DISCUSSION AS TO WHETHER OR NOT WE CAN REGIONALIZE THAT JUST AT THE COUNTY LEVEL IF THEY'RE WILLING TO DO SO. 
          I KNOW GERMANTOWN HAS ALREADY, UH, BUILT THEIR DPW AND THEY BROUGHT IN, UH, UH, HYDRAULIC LIFTS AND EVERYTHING THAT THEY CAN PERFORM MAINTENANCE OUT THERE ON THEIR EQUIPMENT. 
          BUT, UH, JUST, YOU KNOW, HAVING THAT DISCUSSION AND SEEING IF WE CAN SAVE SOME DOLLARS IN THAT REGARD. 
          SO JUST FOR EXAMPLE, YOU HAVE TO BE CERTIFIED TO WORK ON THESE PUMPS AND THINGS LIKE THAT SO YOU CAN SHARE THOSE TYPE OF SERVICES AMONGST EACH OTHER. 
          RIGHT. 
          DEPARTMENT VERSUS EVERYBODY GOING ON THEIR OWN. 
          RIGHT. 
          SO, OKAY. 
          SUPERVISOR . 
          SO I'M THINKING THIS IS GONNA COST A LOT MORE MONEY BECAUSE WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO BIGGER HAVE TO HAVE A BIGGER BUILDING TO, FOR THIS MAINTENANCE OF MM-HMM . 
          OUR, OUR SHOP'S PRETTY BIG. 
          OH, THEY ARE? YES. 
          OKAY. 
          AND, AND IF THERE WERE ANYTHING LIKE THAT, SAME THING, IT'D COME HERE, YOU'D DO, WE'D HAVE THE COST BENEFIT ANALYSIS. 
          YOU'D SEE THE DOLLARS AND CENTS, HOW THEY FLOW. 
          DOES IT ACTUALLY SAVE US MONEY OR DOESN'T IT? AND THEN YOU CAN MAKE A DECISION. 
          NO, THIS THE SAME TYPE OF SERVICES GOING ON RIGHT NOW WITH ALL MUNICIPALITIES IF THEY NEED THEIR EQUIPMENT WORK DONE. 
          IT'S KIND OF SAME, SAME CONCEPT WITH OUR HIGHWAY DEPARTMENT. 
          YEAH. 
          JUST DON'T WANT US TO BE A HEAVY BURDEN TO THE TAXPAYERS FOR MORE MONEY BECAUSE WE NEED A BIGGER, THIS, A BIGGER MACHINE FOR THIS. 
          BUT ANYWAYS, SUPERVISOR BOER, I THINK IT'S LIKELY TO REDUCE THE BURDEN ON TAXPAYERS IF YOU KNOW, RIGHT NOW THEY'RE SPENDING SAY, $10,000 TO HAVE THE FIRE ENGINES SERVICED. 
          AND IF WE CAN DO IT FOR A THOUSAND, AND MAYBE WE BILL IT BACK TO THE MUNICIPALITY, MAYBE WE DECIDE NOT TO. 
          BUT EVEN BUILDING IT BACK TO MUNICIPALITY, THEY'RE SAVING NINE GRAND. 
          AND THAT'S, AND I'M ASSUMING ALL THESE TRUCKS NEED REGULAR SERVICE. 
          JUST LIKE OUR VEHICLES NEED AN OIL CHANGE EVERY COUPLE MONTHS. 
          THEY NEED TIRE ROTATIONS, THEY NEED, YOU KNOW, FLUID CHANGES. 
          MM-HMM . 
          IT'S THE SAME CONCEPT. 
          THEY'RE GONNA NEED REGULAR SERVICING EACH TIME THIS HAPPENS. 
          THIS SAVES THE COMMUNITY MONEY THAT'S GONNA ADD UP OVER TIME. 
          SO, MR. TO, I'M GONNA GO OFF OF, UM, UH, UH, CHRIS IS, ARE WE GOING TO BILL 'EM BACK? WELL, THAT'LL BE A DECISION THAT, UH, COMES BEFORE YOU. 
          OKAY. 
          I MEAN, WE, WE WOULD, YOU KNOW, HAVE THAT CONVERSATION. 
          YEAH. 
          I THINK THE ANSWER IS, IT DEPENDS, RIGHT? YEAH. 
          IF, IF WE ADD ANOTHER MECHANIC IN THE HIGHWAY SHOP BENEFITS 25% OF THAT TIME, MAYBE WE, MAYBE WE SAY, YOU KNOW WHAT, WE'LL JUST TAKE IT ON. 
          MM-HMM . 
          IF IT'S A HUNDRED PERCENT ALL THEY'RE DOING ALL THE TIME IS FIXING AMBULANCES, MAYBE THAT'S A DIFFERENT DECISION. 
          VERY 
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TRAVEL. 
          YEAH. 
          IT REALLY COMES BACK TO, TO THE SHARED SERVICES CONCEPT, TO REALLY WHAT IT COMES BACK TO. 
          AND THAT COMES BACK TO THE COUNTY BOARD FOR APPROVAL ANYTIME WE DO THAT AS WELL. 
          SO THAT'S THE WAY I'M LOOKING AT IT. 
          IT'S REALLY THE SAME CONCEPT. 
          THAT'S RIGHT. 
          EXACTLY. 
          MR. CHAIRMAN, UH, NUMBER SIX, APPARATUS COST AVOIDANCE. 
          THAT'S, THAT'S SELF-EXPLANATORY. 
          UH, UH, THE EXECUTIVE IDENTIFIED AN EXAMPLE ON MONDAY NIGHT, I DON'T WANNA SPEAK WITH FOR HIM, SO, SURE. 
          SO THE, UM, WE, YOU'VE HEARD A LOT OF TALK ABOUT THE LADDER TRUCKS AND HOW WE'VE GOT ALL THESE LADDER TRUCKS IN THE COUNTY. 
          HOW MANY DO WE REALLY NEED? THEY'RE $3 MILLION PLUS PIECES OF EQUIPMENT. 
          UM, BASICALLY THIS GOAL IS WE START LISTING THE TYPES OF EQUIPMENT. 
          IT'S, IT'S ALREADY IN THE STUDY THAT WE HAVE, UM, THAT WE SHOULD BE TALKING ABOUT. 
          WHERE CAN WE HAVE LESS AND, AND POSITION IT IN DIFFERENT PLACES. 
          IF THE CHIEFS COLLECTIVELY CAN DEMONSTRATE WE HAVE LESS APPARATUS AND IT SAVED US MILLIONS OF DOLLARS, WE CAN INCENTIVIZE THAT BEHAVIOR SIMILAR TO HOW YOU'VE DONE WITH OTHER THINGS, WITH THE SHARED $4.5 MILLION IN SHARED SERVICES. 
          UM, SO AGAIN, SIMILAR, I THINK THE WHOLE POINT IS MORE AND MORE HOW DO WE SHARE THINGS INSTEAD OF SPENDING $965,000 13 TIMES OVER. 
          UM, AND THAT, THAT, HOPEFULLY THAT GOAL BRINGS DATA TO YOU THAT SHOWS IT'S HAPPENING AND YOU CAN INCENTIVIZE IT IF YOU CHOOSE TO. 
          I THINK ONE THING I WANNA MAKE CLEAR TO THE FIRE DEPARTMENTS AS WELL AS THE PUBLIC, IS THIS DOES NOT MEAN THAT THIS COMMITTEE OR THE COUNTY BOARD SAYS, NO, YOU'RE NOT BUYING THAT FIRE TRUCK. 
          MM-HMM . 
          YOU'RE NOT BUYING THAT AMBULANCE. 
          THAT'S NOT OUR JOB. 
          THAT'S THEIR BUSINESS AND THAT'S THEIR LOCAL CONTROL, UM, THAT WE TALK ABOUT A LOT. 
          SO THAT'S NOT WHAT THIS GOAL IS. 
          RIGHT. 
          SUGGESTING SO IF THEY, SO I JUST WANNA MAKE THAT CLEAR TO EVERYBODY. 
          IF THEY DECIDE AMONGST THEMSELVES AND THEY COME TO, YOU KNOW, WITHIN OUR WORK GROUP, AND THEY SAY, HEY, DAVE, WE DIDN'T, WE DIDN'T DO THIS. 
          CAN YOU TAKE THIS TO THE COMMITTEE? ABSOLUTELY. 
          I'M COMING TO THE COMMITTEE. 
          SO THAT'S THEIR DECISION. 
          THAT'S THEIR WORKLOAD. 
          THANK YOU. 
          OKAY. 
          NUMBER SEVEN, GOAL SEVEN. 
          THIS, THIS SMART GOAL IS KIND OF LIKE ON US FROM THE COUNTY PERSPECTIVE. 
          FIRE, EMS, PRIORITY DISPATCH, OPTIMIZATION. 
          THERE'S A NUMBER OF THINGS WITHIN THE DISPATCH CENTER, UH, THAT, UH, I THINK WOULD BENEFIT OUR FIRE AND EMS AGENCIES. 
          OBVIOUSLY, ONE IS TO, UH, HAVE A DEDICATED FIRE AND EMS DISPATCHER. 
          UH, BUT WE HAVE TO, WE HAVE THINGS THAT WE HAVE TO ACCOMPLISH IN WITHIN DISPATCH, UH, PRIORITY BASED DISPATCHING THAT TAKES EQUIPMENT, THAT TAKES A, A, A, A NUMBER OF, UH, TECHNOLOGICAL ADVANCEMENTS WITHIN OUR DISPATCH CENTER. 
          SO THAT'S KIND OF A, A, A COUNTY ASPECT THAT WE CAN WORK THROUGH, WHETHER IT'S WE PUT IN IN A CIP OR THINGS OF THAT NATURE. 
          SO, UH, THAT'S A REALLY IMPORTANT ONE THAT PRIORITY BASED DISPATCHING. 
          UM, IT'S TO IDENTIFY WHAT THAT ACTUALLY IS, IS ALL OF OUR DEPARTMENTS HAVE THEIR TERRITORIES, AND WE ALL ARE A PART OF MUTUAL AID BOX ALARM SYSTEM. 
          BUT OUR DISPATCHERS WOULD BE ABLE TO HAVE COMPLETE VIEW OF WHERE ALL OF OUR APPARATUS IS CURRENTLY. 
          OKAY. 
          SO THE CLOSEST MOST AVAILABLE PIECE OF EQUIPMENT WOULD RESPOND. 
          THAT'S, THAT'S, THAT'S PRIORITY BASED DISPATCHING. 
          OKAY. 
          SO IF WEST BEND FIRE IS COMING BACK FROM ST. 
          JOE'S AND WEST BEND, AND THERE'S A NINE ONE ONE CALL AT FAIR PARK, THEY'RE RIGHT THERE. 
          MM-HMM . 
          SO RATHER THAN BANGING OUT JACKSON, THEY CAN BANG OUT THE AMBULANCE, WHATEVER MED UNIT THEY HAVE ROLLING OUT FROM ST. 
          JOE'S, THAT'S WHAT PRIORITY BASED DISPATCHING IS. 
          OKAY. 
          ANY QUESTIONS? GO AHEAD. 
          YEAH, I HAVE A QUESTION. 
          NOW. 
          YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT, UH, DISPATCH, WEST BEND, THE CITY DOES NOT, UH, UM, THEY HAVE THEIR OWN DISPATCH SYSTEM. 
          YES. 
          OKAY. 
          YES. 
          SO THEY'RE NOT GONNA BE REALLY AFFECTED BY SOME OF THESE THINGS OR GOALS? NO. 
          NO. 
          OKAY. 
          IT, THAT WILL BE THEIR CHOICE. 
          THAT'S THEIR CHOICE. 
          RIGHT. 
          SO THAT WOULD BE ONE OF THE OPT OUTS WHEN YOU'RE GONNA BE TALKING ABOUT THAT MM-HMM . 
          RIGHT? BECAUSE THEY, THEY OPT OUT THEN THEY COULD, THEY COULD, I MEAN, ARE YOU, WHEN YOU SAY OPT OUT, ARE YOU SAYING OPT OUT OF THE ENTIRE SYSTEM THAT WE'RE PROPOSING? RIGHT, BECAUSE WELL, SOMEONE SAID, I THOUGHT HE, HE MENTIONED EVERYTHING. 
          WE TALK ABOUT THE OPT OUT. 
          WE'LL TALK ABOUT THAT LATER, BUT I, OKAY. 
          NO, THE CURRENT SYSTEM RIGHT NOW IS WASHINGTON COUNTY COMMUNICATIONS IS FOR EVERYBODY. 
          RIGHT. 
          WEST BEND IS SOLELY THEIRS. 
          OKAY. 
          IT'S NOT AN OPT-IN OPTOUT TYPE OF MECHANISM IN THAT REGARD. 
          THERE. 
          THERE'S, IT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH THIS. 
          NO. 
          NO. 
          OKAY. 
          OKAY. 
          CONCLUDE YOUR PRESENTATION AS FAR AS THE SMART GO. 
          YES, SIR. 
          I'M HERE TO ANSWER ANYTHING ELSE. 
          SO I'LL, I'LL ASK THE, THE COMMITTEE MEMBERS IF YOU 
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HAVE ANY SUGGESTIONS, CHANGES, RECOMMENDATIONS TO THESE SMART GOALS. 
          UM, IF YOU ARE PLEASED WITH WHAT THEY ARE AND AGREE WITH THIS, UM, THEN I WOULD LOOK FOR A CONSENSUS. 
          BUT I'LL OPEN IT UP TO THE, ANY SUGGESTIONS OR CHANGES. 
          I CAN THINK WE KIND OF VETTED THEM OUT AS WE WENT ALONG, BUT IF YOU HAVE ADDITIONAL YEAH, I'M COMFORTABLE WITH 'EM. 
          I THINK WE'RE ON THE RIGHT TRACK WITH THESE, SO, OKAY. 
          I'LL THEN, I'LL ASK FOR A CONSENSUS TO, TO MOVE THIS, UH, THESE DRAFT GOALS TO, UH, THE FULL COUNTY BOARD FOR PRESENTATION. 
          IS THAT WHAT YOU'RE LOOKING FOR? RIGHT. 
          CONSENSUS. 
          YOU GOT THE FULL CONSENSUS OF US TO MOVE THESE FORWARD. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU. 
          OKAY. 
          NOW, PERHAPS WHAT SUPERVISOR PRYOR HAS BEEN LOOKING FORWARD TO THIS ENTIRE MEETING, , UM, THE, UH, THE OPT OUT DISCUSSION. 
          WHO IS GONNA TAKE THE, OH, NO. 
          OKAY. 
          I CAN TRY TO, UH, ADDRESS IT. 
          IT WAS BROUGHT UP AT, UM, A COUPLE MORE THAN ONE LISTENING SESSION. 
          IT MIGHT'VE BEEN TWO OR THREE. 
          UH, IT WAS BROUGHT UP BY THE CHIEF ELECTED OFFICIALS, UH, ALSO ON MONDAY, THE CONCEPT OF OPTING OUT, UM, THE RESOLUTION THAT WE SHARED WITH YOU, UM, I'M ACTUALLY GONNA ASK YOU TO, TO DISREGARD IT BECAUSE WE'RE, WE'RE TRYING TO CREATE A WAY TO MAKE THAT CONCEPT POSSIBLE. 
          UM, AS I MENTIONED BEFORE, THE ILLUSTRATION OF, UM, THE, THE NEWMAN FARM BURNING IN THE 23 DEPARTMENTS COMING, RUNNING IS A PERFECT EXAMPLE OF EVERYBODY, EVERY COMMUNITY IN THOSE 23 DEPARTMENTS WAS PAYING TO HELP SAVE THAT, SAVE THAT BUILDING, SAVE THAT LIVESTOCK, SAVE THOSE LIVES. 
          UM, SO WE ALL HAVE TO CONTRIBUTE TO THAT. 
          UM, HOWEVER WE'RE TRYING TO INVESTIGATE, IS THERE A WAY IF A MUNICIPALITY SAYS, WE GOT THIS, WE'RE ON OUR OWN, UM, WE DON'T NEED THE ADDITIONAL LEVY, UM, CAN YOU AS, AS SUPERVISOR PRIDMORE PUT IT, OPT OUT? UM, I THINK THE, I THINK THE ANSWER IS YES, BUT WE WANT TO MAKE SURE WE HAVE THE STATUTORY BACKING TO ACTUALLY PULL THAT OFF. 
          UM, MEANING, SO LET'S SAY FOR EXAMPLE THAT THE VILLAGE GERMANTOWN, UH, SINCE IT WAS MOSTLY THEIR CONSTITUENTS BRINGING THIS UP, UM, THAT THEY DECIDED THEY WERE GONNA OPT OUT TO THE TUNE OF $383,000 OUT OF THAT 2.3 MILLION. 
          UM, WHAT I WOULD, I THINK THE ONLY WAY YOU CAN MAKE IT WORK, IF YOU'RE TO APPROVE THE PROGRAM, IS TO SAY, INSTEAD OF A $2.3 MILLION EMS LEVY, THEN WE WOULD TAX 2.3 MINUS 3 83. 
          SO ROUGHLY 1.9 GERMANTOWN'S STILL GOING TO GET TAXED. 
          IT WILL JUST GET TAXED LESS, WE'LL ALL GET TAXED LESS. 
          UM, SO THAT WOULD BE A DIFFERENT WAY OF GETTING TO YOUR DOLLAR 40 TAX RATE. 
          I WILL SAY THIS, IF GERMANTOWN DID THAT, UM, THEY'RE CERTAINLY ENTITLED TO DO IT. 
          UM, THE REALITY IS IT SAVES ABOUT A PENNY ON THE TAX RATE. 
          SO, AND THEY'RE ONE OF THE LARGEST IN THE COUNTY, SO IT'S NOT HAVING THE IMPACT. 
          I THINK THEY THINK IT'S HAVING, NONETHELESS, THAT'S THEIR CHOICE. 
          THAT HAPPENS TO BE VERY, VERY CLOSE TO THE AMOUNT THAT THEY ACTUALLY GET THIS YEAR IN NET NEW CONSTRUCTION TOTAL. 
          SO, UH, I KNOW THEIR EXPENSES ARE GOING UP MORE THAN 383,000 ACROSS THE WHOLE VILLAGE. 
          I'D, I'D BE A LITTLE SURPRISED IF THAT'S WHAT THEY CHOOSE, BUT WE'RE TRYING TO FIND A STATUTORY PATHWAY FOR THEM TO BE ABLE TO DO EXACTLY THAT. 
          UM, THE OTHER ALTERNATIVE THAT, THAT BRAD HAD HAD TALKED ABOUT, AND HE'S INVESTIGATING THIS ONE AS WELL, WHICH IS WHY THE RESOLUTION WOULD NEED TO BE FIRMED UP, IS DO WE ASK EVERY MUNICIPALITY TO PASS A RESOLUTION, UM, REQUESTING IT RATHER THAN US HAVING IT AND THEN THEM OPTING OUT. 
          SO DO IT IN THE INVERSE. 
          UM, THAT'S A POSSIBILITY TOO. 
          UM, THE END PRODUCT IS THE SAME, UH, THE, INSTEAD OF THAT SAME EXAMPLE, INSTEAD OF TAXING 2.3 OR TAXING 1.9. 
          UM, BUT IT'S JUST A, IT'S A METH METHODO, METHODOLOGICAL, METHODOLOGICAL. 
          UM, IT'S A EITHER METHOD. 
          THAT'S WHAT I'M TRYING TO SAY. 
          UM, YOU COULD USE EITHER METHOD. 
          I THINK IT'S POSSIBLE. 
          AND I CAN TELL YOU THIS, AND SUPERVISOR NEWMAN, THE CHAIR, IF YOU FEEL LIKE I'M, I'M SPEAKING OUTTA TURN HERE, BUT, UM, BY THE TIME WE WERE DONE WITH THE CHIEF ELECTED OFFICIAL MEETING AND TALKED THROUGH EVERYTHING YOU JUST APPROVED TO THIS POINT, I SHOULDN'T SAY APPROVED, BUT FRAMED UP FOR RECOMMENDATION TO THE BOARD, UM, ALL THAT 
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TALK OF OPTING OUT, AND THAT ALL WENT AWAY IMMEDIATELY. 
          SO ONCE WE GOT TO TAX RATE NEUTRAL, AS YOU HAD SUGGESTED AT THE LAST MEETING, UM, IT REALLY WAS MITIGATED. 
          AND ONCE WE LAID OUT THOSE SMART GOALS, I THINK IT REALLY HELPED SIGNIFICANTLY. 
          I THINK THAT, YOU KNOW, I AGREE WITH YOU THAT THE, THE OPTOUT CONCERN, UM, KIND OF WENT AWAY IN THAT MEETING, BUT UNDERSTANDING, YOU KNOW, IT'S JUST ONE CHIEF ELECTED IN THAT MEETING, NOT SPEAKING FOR THE ENTIRE, THEIR ENTIRE COMMUNITIES. 
          SO, UM, THERE MIGHT BE SOME HESITATION, YOU KNOW, BACK IN THAT COMMUNITY YET. 
          BUT THE IMPORTANT THING IS TO KNOW ON THE LISTENING SESSIONS AND, AND ALL THE CONTACT THAT WE'VE HAD, WE'RE LOOKING INTO THAT AS, OKAY, THAT'S, THAT'S THE LOUD NOISE RIGHT NOW. 
          WHAT IF WE DON'T WANT TO DO IT? WHAT CAN WE DO? AND THIS IS WHAT, WHAT WE HAVE RIGHT NOW. 
          IT IS POSSIBLE WE'RE RIGHT, WE'RE THINKING IT'S POSSIBLE, BUT IN REALITY, WE CAN'T TAX ONE COMMUNITY AND NOT TAX ANOTHER COMMUNITY. 
          IT HAS TO BE COUNTYWIDE. 
          SO NO MATTER WHAT, SOMEBODY BE PAYING A PORTION, IT'S JUST IF A COMMUNITY OPTED OUT, THAT WOULD COME OFF THE TOTAL TAX COUNTYWIDE. 
          IF, IF YOU'RE FOLLOWING. 
          AND, AND THE IMPACT IS VERY, VERY MINIMAL. 
          IF AN EXAMPLE OF GERMANTOWN WOULD OPT OUT. 
          SO GO AHEAD SUPERVISOR. 
          UM, MY THOUGHT IS THAT, OKAY, THIS IS GO WITH SLINGER BECAUSE YOU KNOW, THEY DON'T REALLY, YOU KNOW, THEY'VE TAKING CARE OF THEIR OWN SO WELL, THEY GET REIMBURSED THEN, UM, BECAUSE THEY'RE NOT GOING TO USE ANY OF THAT MONEY. 
          SO THE IMPACT THAT IF S LET'S USE SLINGER AS AN EXAMPLE. 
          UM, IT, IF SLINGER WOULD DECIDE TO OPT OUT, THE IMPACT WOULD BE EVEN LESS THEN THE GERMANTOWN ONE, IF YOU WANT TO DO THAT PRO. 
          WELL, I DON'T MEAN IT THAT WAY. 
          IF, IF THIS IS NOT EVEN AN OPT OUT. 
          IF THEY JUST DECIDE, WELL, WE DON'T NEED YOUR HELP WITH THIS BECAUSE WE ARE ALREADY DOING FINE. 
          SO WILL THERE THE TAXPAYERS GET ANY LITTLE BENEFIT FROM OUR COUNTY? YES. 
          SEND THEM APPROXIMATELY THREE TENTHS OF A CENT ON A TAX RATE. 
          RIGHT. 
          YEAH. 
          SO, OKAY. 
          SO I'M JUST TRYING TO UNDERSTAND THAT. 
          UM, THEY WOULD, WHEN THEY ASK QUESTIONS, I'M JUST TRYING TO GIVE 'EM THE CORRECT ANSWER. 
          YEAH, I THINK THAT, THAT THIS IS WHERE THE NUMBERS THEY WANT. 
          YEP. 
          IT'S SIMILAR TO THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE. 
          IF THEY DECIDED THEY WANT TO HAVE THEIR OWN DETECTIVE BUREAU, IT DOESN'T MATTER TO THE COMMUNITY, WE WANT TO HAVE OUR OWN DETECTIVE BUREAU. 
          WE'RE GONNA PAY EXTRA FOR THAT AND USE YOU LESS. 
          THEY CAN DO THAT. 
          WE'RE STILL TAXING FOR THE DETECTIVE BUREAU, RIGHT? I, I UNDER WE UNDERSTAND THAT. 
          YEAH. 
          IT'D BE SIMILAR TO THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE. 
          OKAY. 
          OR, YOU KNOW, I LIVE IN THE TOWN OF TRENTON. 
          THEY'VE CHOSEN TO HAVE THEIR OWN, UM, POLICE DEPARTMENT, UM, THAT, THAT THEY VOTE FOR EVERY YEAR. 
          WOW. 
          UM, SO WE HAVE THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE TO PROVIDE THE SERVICE IF THEY WANTED TO, YOU KNOW, NOT HAVE THAT, THE COUNTY'S GONNA BE THERE, WE'RE GONNA BACK IT UP, BUT IF, YOU KNOW, THEY, THEY WANT TO PAY A LITTLE EXTRA SO THEY HAVE THEIR OWN, THEY CAN DO THAT. 
          THEY DEBATE IT QUITE FREQUENTLY. 
          I KNOW, BUT IT'S THE SAME, IT'S THE SAME ILLUSTRATION. 
          SO, AND HOW MUCH DOES THAT EXTRA, WAS IT A COUPLE HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS A YEAR, TONY? IT'S PROBABLY A PENNY. 
          MAYBE HALF A PENNY. 
          IT'S NOT A LOT. 
          BUT I THINK THE BIG THING TO REMEMBER THOUGH, WITH THIS PROGRAM, EVERYBODY IN THE COUNTY, LIKE SUPERVISOR NEWMAN WAS SAYING EVERYBODY IN THE COUNTY GETS TAXED. 
          BUT THE, THE BETTER EXAMPLE WITH WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT TODAY, EVEN THAN THE NEWMAN FARM, I THINK IT WAS BATTALION CHIEF RIKER, BUT IT MIGHT HAVE BEEN CHIEF NORTON, I DON'T REMEMBER, GAVE US, GAVE AN ILLUSTRATION OF A RECENT ACCIDENT ON I 41 AND THERE WERE FIVE AMBULANCES FROM DEPARTMENTS THROUGHOUT THE COUNTY. 
          I MEAN, THAT'S THE EXAMPLE. 
          ALL EVERYBODY ELSE IS GONNA GET TAXED. 
          THEY'RE GONNA GET THE REVENUE 'CAUSE THEY GOTTA COME AND HELP WHEN THAT ACCIDENT HAPPENS. 
          THERE'S, THERE'S NO DEPARTMENT IN THE COUNTY THAT CAN HANDLE A SITUATION LIKE THAT WITH NEEDING FIVE AMBULANCES ON THE SPOT. 
          SO WE'RE ALL, THE WHOLE POINT IS WE HELP ONE ANOTHER AND, AND I THINK OPT OUT YEP. 
          SAVES YOU A CO A COUPLE CENTS. 
          UM, MAYBE LESS. 
          BUT IF YOU, IT'S THEORETICALLY POSSIBLE NOW WE'RE GONNA TRY TO GIVE YOU A PATHWAY STATUTORILY TO BE ABLE TO DO IT. 
          MM-HMM . 
          IF THAT'S WHAT THE COMMITTEE WANTS. 
          IF THE COMMITTEE SAYS, NOPE, THAT'S YOUR CHOICE TOO. 
          YOU'RE THE COUNTY BOARD. 
          I MEAN YOU TAX FOR THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE AND YOU DON'T ASK ANYBODY'S PERMISSION, YOU JUST DO IT. 
           SUPERVISOR, BUR, OH, GO AHEAD. 
          MUNICIPALITY WOULD DECIDE TO OPT OUT THAT, HEY, WE DON'T NEED THIS. 
          WE'RE GOOD. 
          THEY'RE OPTING OUT FOR ALL FIVE YEARS. 
          IF THEY'RE THREE FOUR, WE'RE, WE'RE THREE, FOUR YEARS INTO THIS. 
          AND ALL OF A SUDDEN THEY REALIZE, 
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HEY, WE'RE NOT DOING SO GOOD. 
          ARE THEY BACK? CAN THEY GET BACK IN GREAT DISCUSSION. 
          I ENCOURAGE YOU TO HAVE IT  THAT THAT WASN'T, THERE WAS A QUESTION AND A CONVERSATION I ACTUALLY HAD, UM, WITH THE COUNTY EXECUTIVE BECAUSE , WHAT IS THE ANSWER? NO, I DON'T KNOW. 
          I MEAN, THAT'S WHAT WE'RE HERE TO DISCUSS. 
          . 
          I MEAN THAT'S, I I THINK I, I'M GONNA JUST GIVE MY OPINION. 
          I THINK THE ANSWER IS THEY WOULD HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY IN THE FUTURE. 
          THE REASON I SAY THAT IS BECAUSE LEADERSHIP CHANGES IN THESE COMMUNITIES. 
          THE, THEY MIGHT TAKE 'EM IN A DIFFERENT DIRECTION. 
          THEY MIGHT BE IN A DIFFERENT SITUATION. 
          UH, THAT'S, THAT'S MY OPINION ON IT. 
          UH, SURPRISE. 
          SO FURTHER THAT POINT, WE KNOW THERE'S A LOT OF BAD INFORMATION ABOUT THIS PROGRAM BEING CIRCULATED. 
          AND A COMMUNITY RIGHT NOW MAY BE FIRMLY AGAINST IT. 
          AND ONCE THEY SEE IT IN ACTION AND SEE IT'S WORKING GOOD, THEY REALIZE, OH, WE'RE MISSING OUT ON SOMETHING HERE. 
          WE MADE A POOR CHOICE. 
          I'M OKAY WITH LETTING 'EM COME BACK IN AND CORRECT THEIR BAD CHOICE. 
          SO, WELL IF THEY'RE PAYING TAXES FOR IT, I MEAN, SHOULD THEY SHOULD BE ALLOWED TO COME BACK IN, RIGHT? IF IF THEY COME IN THOUGH, RIGHT. 
          THE TAX WILL GO UP EVEN FARTHER. 
          THAT'S RIGHT. 
          THEN THERE'S ALL KINDS OF QUESTIONS THAT GO WITH THAT. 
          WHEN THEY COME IN, WHAT DO THEY COME IN AT WHAT LEVEL OF THIS FORMULA, YOU KNOW, THERE'S ALL, THERE'S ALL THAT STUFF WE HAVE TO CONSIDER AS WELL. 
          BUT CAN, CAN WE, YOU GUYS HAVE THIS DOCUMENT IN YOUR PACKET, RIGHT? CAN I, CAN WE JUST WALK THROUGH THAT SCENARIO? BECAUSE THIS IS WHAT SUPERVISOR NEWMAN AND I WERE KIND OF KICKING BACK AND FORTH. 
          'CAUSE IT'S NOT AN EASY, WHAT YOU'RE DESCRIBING HAPPENING IS NOT SIMPLE ADDED JUST TODAY. 
          I'M SORRY, I DIDN'T GET THAT. 
          SO HOLD ON HERE. 
          WELL, I'LL GIVE YOU MINE AND THEN GO LOOK ON THE PACKAGE HERE. 
          IT'S JUST AN ILLUSTRATION FOR, UM, IF WE DIDN'T KNOW IF YOU WERE PLANNING TO APPROVE WHAT'S HERE TODAY OR SOME OTHER VERSION. 
          BUT THE VERSION THAT WE JUST HOLD ON ONE SECOND. 
          OH, I'M EXECUTIVE. 
          OH, SORRY. 
          WE'LL LET THEM FIND THEIR DOCUMENTS FIRST SO THEY CAN FILE, SORRY, AN ATTACHMENT. 
          OKAY. 
          YOU GOTTA START WITH WHICH, LET'S GO WITH THE LAST, OR MAYBE IT'S HERE ALSO. 
          WE GOT THE NUMBERS HERE IT LOOKS LIKE HERE. 
          OKAY. 
          YEAH, YOU GOT, SO THAT'S A ONE PAGER. 
          SO, OKAY. 
          ARE YOU ALL SET? YEAH. 
          OKAY. 
          WE'LL CONTINUE WITH YOUR CONVERSATION. 
          YEAH. 
          YOU, YOU HAVE IT. 
          NO. 
          SO JUST TO ORIENT YOU TO THIS DOCUMENT, BEFORE I TRY TO ANSWER THE WHAT HAPPENS IF SOMEONE OPTS OUT QUESTION. 
          SO WHAT YOU'RE SEEING HERE IS ALL OF THE IMPACTS OF THE PROPOSAL THAT YOU JUST ADOPTED FOR RECOMMENDATION TO THE BOARD. 
          UM, THE IMPACT TO EACH OF THE MUNICIPALITIES. 
          SO AS YOU SEE ON THE VERY, VERY TOP, WE HAVE SIX DEPARTMENTS THAT ARE MUNICIPAL DEPARTMENTS. 
          THEY GET BOTH THE 75% AND THE 25%. 
          RIGHT. 
          UM, SO THOSE TWO DIFFERENT NUMBERS THAT YOU SAW UP ON THE SCREEN, UM, THEY GET THE TOTALITY OF IT BECAUSE THEY'RE COMBINATION DEPARTMENT. 
          THE NEXT GROUP, UM, THIS IS THE LARGEST GROUP. 
          THEY DO NOT HAVE THEIR OWN MUNICIPAL FIRE DEPARTMENTS. 
          THEY CONTRACT BACK. 
          SO THEIR NUMBER REPRESENTS 75% OF THEIR PORTION OF THEIR CONTRACTS. 
          UM, AND THEN THE LAST PORTION IS THE 25%, THE FIRE DEPARTMENT SIDE. 
          SO THOSE ARE THE, UH, SEVEN PRIVATE FIRE COMPANIES. 
          UM, THE BALANCE OF THE DEPARTMENTS, THAT'S THEIR 25% PORTION ONLY. 
          SO FROM TOP TO BOTTOM, UH, THAT EXPLAINS WHAT EVERYBODY WOULD GET IN YEAR ONE. 
          SO DO, DO YOU WANNA PAUSE FOR QUESTIONS ABOUT THAT OR YOU WANT ME TO JUST KEEP ROLLING? SURE. 
          OKAY. 
          JUST WANNA MAKE SURE THIS DOES NOT INCLUDE THE $500,000. 
          THAT'S CORRECT. 
          IT DOES NOT INCLUDE THE $500,000 INCENTIVE FOR VOLUNTEERS. 
          OKAY. 
          ANY QUESTIONS BEFORE WE ON? OKAY, GO AHEAD. 
          SO LET'S JUST USE AN EXAMPLE OF NEXT YEAR. 
          SO THE, LET'S STICK WITH GERMANTOWN. 
          'CAUSE IT'S THE, IT'S ONE OF THE BIGGER NUMBERS. 
          GERMANTOWN DECIDES WE'RE NOT, EITHER WE'RE OPTING OUT OR WE'RE NOT PASSING A RESOLUTION TO PARTICIPATE. 
          ONE OR THE OTHER. 
          THAT $383,000 WOULD BE SUBTRACTED FROM THE GRAND TOTAL AT THE BOTTOM. 
          SO TWO POINT UNDER IT UNDER THAT SCENARIO, IF THAT'S THE DIRECTION YOU WANT TO GO. 
          SO IT WOULD TAKE THE 2.462, SUBTRACT 3 83, 
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WHATEVER THAT MULTIPLIES OUT TO. 
          I THINK IT'S 2.08, BUT I'M DOING MATH ON THE FLY AND THAT'S DANGEROUS. 
          UM, SO IT WOULD DROP THE TOTAL AMOUNT. 
          THAT'S, THAT'S ULTIMATELY PROP TAXED PROPERTY TAXES, UM, AND A LITTLE SMALL PORTION OF SALES TAX. 
          SO WHAT DOES THAT MEAN? IF YOU'RE A VILLAGE OF GERMANTOWN RESIDENT, YOU'RE STILL GOING TO GET TAXED FOR $2.08 MILLION. 
          YOU'RE JUST NOT GOING TO GET TAXED FOR $2.46 MILLION. 
          BUT NEITHER IS ANYBODY ELSE IN THE COUNTY. 
          SO GERMANTOWN DECIDING NOT TO DO IT. 
          WE'LL SAVE EVERYBODY MONEY ON THAT NUMBER. 
          THAT'S IT. 
          IT WILL, IT LIKELY DOESN'T SAVE IN THE LONG RUN. 
          NOW, LET'S SAY IN YEAR 2028, THEY DECIDE THEY GET A NEW VILLAGE PRESIDENT OR NEW BOARD MEMBERS OR, OR THEY SEE THE LIGHT, AS YOU WERE SAYING EARLIER, WHATEVER THE REASON IS, THEY SAY, OH WAIT A MINUTE, WE MADE A MISTAKE. 
          WE NEED, WE NEED TO PARTICIPATE. 
          DO YOU WANT THEM TO COME IN RIGHT AWAY THEN IN YEAR ONE AT THE FULL 459, DO THEY START BACK AT 3 83? I, WE DIDN'T SPEND ANY TIME TRYING TO FIGURE THAT OUT BECAUSE THERE'S TOO MANY, TO BE HONEST WITH YOU, THERE'S TOO MANY SCENARIOS ON HOW YOU WANT TO HANDLE THAT. 
          OR IF YOU DON'T SIGN UP IN YOUR ONE, YOU'RE OUT FOR THE FULL FIVE YEARS. 
          I, I'M NOT ADVOCATING EITHER ONE OF THESE, TO BE HONEST WITH YOU. 
          I THINK IT'S A FOOL'S AARON TO NOT PARTICIPATE BECAUSE THAT PRETENDS LIKE YOU DON'T GET HELP FROM EVERYBODY ELSE AND YOU DON'T HELP ANYBODY ELSE. 
          BUT YOU KNOW, THERE'S AMERICA FIRST AND THERE'S AMERICA ONLY. 
          YOU'RE ENTITLED TO FEEL A MIRACLE ONLY SUPERVISOR BAS SO OPTING OUT, THEY WOULD BE OPTING ONTO THE SMART GOALS AND THE SHARED SERVICES AND EVERYTHING. 
          IN THEORY, YES. 
          SUPERVISOR. 
          SO IN THEORY, AS A WEST BEND TAXPAYER, IF I WAS PURELY BEING SELFISH, MY IDEAL SITUATION WOULD BE WEST BEND OPS IN EVERYBODY ELSE OPTS OUT AND WEST BEND FIRE DEPARTMENT GETS THIS BIG BENEFIT PAID FOR IT EVENLY BY THE ENTIRE COUNTY. 
          YEAH. 
          BUT STEVE VOLCKER AND THE CITY OF HARTFORD ALREADY BEAT YOU TO IT. 
          HE ASKED GERMANTOWN FOR THEIR 4 383. 
          YEAH. 
          BUT YES, THEORETICALLY, AND I'M BEING SOMEWHAT FACETIOUS WITH THAT. 
          RIGHT. 
          I DO NOT REALLY WANT THAT TO HAPPEN. 
          YES, I UNDERSTAND. 
          THIS IS ABOUT INTERCONNECTEDNESS. 
          I MEAN, THE OTHER OPTION IS, I MEAN, THERE'S OTHER CRAZY OPTIONS THAT I DON'T EVEN THINK ARE WORTH TALKING ABOUT, BUT THE OTHER OPTION IS YOU COULD STILL TAX THE FULL 2.462 AND JUST TAKE THE 3 83 AND SHARE IT WITH EVERYBODY ELSE. 
          . 
          THAT'S WHAT WE DO IN THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE. 
          I MEAN, YEAH, THAT IS, IF YOU, IF YOU LOOK AT THAT PROPOSAL AND THEN YEAR TWO THE COMMUNITY DECIDES TO GET BACK IN, THEN YOU COULD JUSTIFY GOING TO THE NEXT YEAR'S CALCULATION. 
          BUT I, I MEAN IDEALLY THAT'S, I I WILL SAY THIS FROM A ADMINISTRATIVE STANDPOINT, LET'S SAY IT'S 2027, THEY, THE ELECTION'S NOT TILL APRIL. 
          THEY'RE LIKELY NOT GONNA MAKE A DECISION LIKE THAT UNTIL JUNE OR JULY OR MAYBE EVEN AUGUST, SEPTEMBER, OCTOBER. 
          FOR US THEN TO HAVE TO REACT WITHIN JUST A COUPLE OF MONTHS FOR 2028 ISN'T ANY MORE REALISTIC THAN US SAYING OUR, OUR TERMINATION REQUIREMENT IS SIX MONTHS. 
          OUR TERMINATION REQUIREMENT'S 18. 
          SO I THINK IF YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE A SCENARIO LIKE THE ONE THAT WAS JUST DESCRIBED, YOU CAN, YOU CAN COME BACK IN, BUT IT'S AN 18 MONTH WINDOW. 
          YOU HAVE TO NOTIFY US BY JUNE 30TH AND YOU'LL GET IT NOT THE FOLLOWING JANUARY, BUT THE ONE AFTER THAT, IT'S JUST GONNA BE TWO IT YOU THINK THIS IS RUSHED. 
          I MEAN, THAT'LL BE REALLY, REALLY RUSHED. 
          OKAY. 
          SO THE, GO AHEAD. 
          SO THESE NUMBERS HERE YES. 
          IS ACCORDING TO THE NUMBERS THAT YOU HAVE ON THAT FIRST PAGE, I THINK THAT WE LOOKED AT AT TWO POINT SOMETHING, NINE OR TWO. 
          YES. 
          THE, THE ONE THAT YOU JUST AS A GROUP SAID WE'LL PASS ON TO THE COUNTY BOARD. 
          OKAY. 
          SO THEN THESE I CAN SHARE WITH THE YES MA'AM. 
          THE PEOPLE THAT WE'RE ASKING, THEY WANT THAT. 
          THAT'S CORRECT. 
          YES. 
          OKAY. 
          SUPERVISOR TO LIKE SAY THAT. 
          I, I THINK IF THEY OPT OUT, I'M, I WOULD, BEFORE THEM COMING BACK IN, WE ALL LEARNED FROM OUR MISTAKES AND MY, UH, CHAIRMAN SAID, UH, THE CHANGE OF BOARDS AND THINGS LIKE THIS HERE, I THINK THEY, THEY COULD GO, WE SHOULD LET 'EM BACK IN AT WHAT RATE OR WHAT AMOUNT? UM, IF WE, IF THEY DIDN'T GO IN IN 27 AND THEY WENT IN IN 28, SO THEY DIDN'T GET THE THREE, UH, 383,000, UH, 
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THEY, THEY GOT TAX FOR, IT KIND OF SAVED THAT AMOUNT FOR US. 
          SO THEY CAME BACK AT 4 59. 
          IS THAT ? I, I DON'T KNOW. 
          I GUESS I HAVE TO THINK ABOUT THAT A LITTLE MORE. 
          YEAH. 
          WHAT IF I, WHAT IF I SUMMARIZE AN IDEA, I'LL THROW ONE OUT THERE. 
          REALLY WHAT WE'RE OUT AFTER IS DOES THE CONSENSUS OF THIS BOARD FEEL THAT AN OPT OUT IS, IS AN OPTION THAT WE SHOULD GIVE THEM DIRECTION ON? THAT'S ONE QUESTION. 
          AND THEN THE SECOND IS, IF SO, CAN THEY COME BACK IN? AND THE THIRD IS AT WHAT YEARS FORMULA? SO IT SOUNDS AS THOUGH THERE IS A CONSENSUS ABOUT THE OPT OUT OPTION, BUT IF, IF A COMMUNITY WANTED TO COME BACK IN SEEING AS THOUGH WE'RE LOOKING AT A FIVE YEAR CONTRACT, IF WE HAD THE CLAUSE IN THERE THAT THEY, THEY COME BACK IN AT YEAR ONE'S STARTING POINT IS THAT, THAT MIGHT NOT BE A BAD IDEA BECAUSE IF THEY CAME BACK IN, IN, UH, YEAR THREE, JUST GERMANTOWN FOR INSTANCE, THEY WOULD COME, THEY WOULD BE 5 38. 
          IF THEY CAME IN ON THE STARTING DATE, THEY WOULD BE 3 83 AND, AND A CONSIDERABLE CHANGE TO THE LEVY IN THAT YEAR. 
          THAT'S CORRECT. 
          I CAN SPEAK A LITTLE BIT TO THAT MR. CHAIRMAN BECAUSE, UH, THE CHIEF INNOVATION OFFICER HAD A MEETING HE HAD TO ATTEND. 
          SO HE LEFT ME NOTES. 
          OKAY. 
          OKAY. 
          SO AS YOU, AS YOU LOOK AT THE FIGURES OVER THE FIVE YEAR COURSE OF TIME, OKAY. 
          HE INDICATED TO ME THAT PREDICATED ON AN AVERAGE OF A 4% GROWTH YEAR OVER YEAR. 
          THAT'S WHAT HE BASED THOSE PROJECTIONS ON. 
          THAT IS AN EMS LEVY YEAR OVER YEAR FOR THE FIRST YEAR INTO 2028 OF AN INCREASE OF $476,000. 
          OKAY. 
          SO PREDICATED ON OUR EQUALIZED VALUE AVERAGE OVER THE COURSE OF THE LAST 10 YEARS, THAT 4% INCREASE WOULD RESULT IN A REDUCTION OF, OF 5 CENTS IN THE TAX RATE. 
          OKAY. 
          SO THOSE ARE NOTES. 
          I'M A FIREFIGHTER , THAT'S THE CHIEF INTEGRATION OFFICER. 
          SO SUPERVISOR PRIDE MOORE, YOU SPEAK BETTER TO THAT. 
          THIS IS THIS, HE'S ADDRESSING YOUR CONCERN. 
          YES, I KNOW I'M LISTENING TO THIS. 
          THAT, THAT, SO IN 2028, TAX RATE WILL STILL GO DOWN 5 CENTS, EVEN IF THIS IS IMPLEMENTED. 
          YEAH. 
          AND I WANNA ALSO IDENTIFY ANOTHER, JUST TOUCH ON WHAT, UH, THE CHAIRMAN SAID EARLIER. 
          UM, WHAT THE CHAIRMAN HAS SAID AND WHAT THE EXECUTIVE HAS SAID IS VERY, VERY IMPORTANT TO LISTEN TO WHAT HE'S SAYING. 
          SO PREDICATED ON A 4% INCREASE, SO THAT COMES TO YOU, WHATEVER THE ANNUAL INCREASE IS, THAT INCREASE IS APPLIED TO THE BIG FULL LEVY FOR THE ENTIRE COUNTY. 
          75% OF THAT AS AARON IDENTIFIED IN THE PRESENTATION TO THE FULL COUNTY BOARD LAST MONTH. 
          OKAY. 
          CAN CAN I JUST SHOW YOU WHAT THAT MEANS? YEAH. 
          ON YOUR SHEET, THE VILLAGE OF GERMANTOWN, SINCE THEY'RE THE TOP LINE, 3 83 TO 4 59 IS OBVIOUSLY NOT A 4% INCREASE. 
          IT'S MUCH MORE THAN A 4% INCREASE. 
          BUT THAT'S BECAUSE IT'S 4% OF THE WHOLE THING. 
          THE TOP LINE FULL EMS LEVY FOR THE WHOLE ENTIRE COUNTY, NOT COUNTY EMS LEVY EVERY WHAT EVERY MUNICIPALITY AND THE COUNTY LEVY FOR EMS. RIGHT. 
          THAT'S WHY IT GOES UP SO MUCH, WHICH IS, GOES BACK TO WHAT WE WERE SAYING BEFORE. 
          THAT'S THE REAL VALUE OF THE PROGRAM. 
          IT'S NOT THE YEAR ONE MONEY, WHICH THE 2.3 MILLION THAT, THAT WE'VE SPENT SO MUCH TIME TALKING ABOUT. 
          IT'S, IT'S A LOT OF MONEY. 
          IT'S A BIG DEAL. 
          BUT THIS IS A WAY BIGGER DEAL. 
          MM-HMM . 
          THIS REALLY SOLVES THIS PROBLEM. 
          SO IT'S NOT COMING BACK TO YOU YEAR AFTER YEAR AFTER YEAR OR REFERENDUM OR BORROWING OR ANY OF THAT STUFF. 
          AND THAT'S NOT JUST, THAT'S NOT JUST GERMANE TO THIS COMMITTEE. 
          I LITERALLY HAD SEVERAL ADMINISTRATORS REACH OUT TO ME AFTER CHIEF ELECTEDS SAYING, I THINK THE DECIMAL POINT YOU USED IS LIKE IN THE WRONG SPOT. 
          WE'RE LIKE, NO, THE 4% THAT WE'RE USING IS ON THIS NUMBER. 
          SO WE'RE TREATING, WE'RE TREATING THESE DEPARTMENTS THE SAME WAY WE TREAT THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE. 
          CORRECT. 
          YOUR WHOLE EXPENSE, THIS IS HOW MUCH YOUR INCREASE ON YOUR WHOLE EXP EXPENSE ON THE LEVY SIDE IS WE'RE APPLYING IT THE SAME WAY. 
          SUPERVISOR WICK. 
          CORRECT. 
          SO 
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THIS EASY WAY TO PUT THAT IS THEIR COST TO CONTINUE. 
          YES. 
          THEY'RE NO LONGER GOING TO BE PAID. 
          WE'RE GOING TO BE TAKING ON THEIR COST TO CONTINUE FOR THE FIVE YEARS IF YOUR PROPOSAL IS APPROVED, AT LEAST FOR THE FIVE YEARS. 
          YES. 
          YEAH. 
          THAT'S WHERE THE BIG, WHEN I MENTIONED EARLIER, THAT'S THE BIGGEST BENEFIT OF THIS PROGRAM. 
          IT'S NOT YEAR ONE, IT'S THE ONGOING YEARS. 
          AND I THINK THAT WAS BEING DISCUSSED IN THE BACK OF THE ROOM TOO. 
          I I THINK WHILE WE WERE UP HERE, YES. 
          I, I'M KIND OF, I'M A LITTLE DISAPPOINTED THAT WE'RE EVEN HAVING A DISCUSSION ABOUT OPT OUT BECAUSE I THINK THERE'S, ONCE A LOT OF THIS INFORMATION IS OUT AND UNDERSTOOD, I, I DON'T KNOW THAT THERE WILL BE AN OPT OUT BECAUSE THIS IS, THIS IS A GREAT PROGRAM TO MOVE FORWARD. 
          I AGREE WITH THAT DISAPPOINTMENT, BUT I THINK BECAUSE OF THE MISINFORMATION THAT'S BEING PUT OUT THERE, I THINK WE HAVE TO HAVE THIS DISCUSSION BECAUSE COMMUNITIES ARE BEING AFFECTED BY THAT MISINFORMATION AND THEY'RE SERIOUSLY CONSIDERING OPTING OUT. 
          SO I THINK WE HAVE TO OKAY, WELL LET'S, ONE MORE QUESTION. 
          GO AHEAD MS. THE SALES TAX OF, UH, WE GET A BIG INCREASE IN, UM, THAT, WILL THAT PUT THAT TOWARDS THIS, THIS, YOU KNOW, NOT IF WE FOLLOW WHAT WE HAVE, WE, THE BOARD AND I HAVE NORMALLY DONE, WHEN WE GET EXTRA SALES TAX, TYPICALLY WE TAKE IT AND WE DRIVE DOWN PROPERTY TAXES. 
          RIGHT. 
          SO UNLESS YOU THAT WHICH IS SEPARATE FROM THIS, I MEAN, IF YOU DECIDE WE'RE GONNA DO SOMETHING DIFFERENT. 
          WELL, I THOUGHT I SAW SOMETHING HERE ON SALES TAX. 
          NO. 
          600 SOME THOUSAND. 
          YES, WE ARE USING SOME SALES TAX FOR THIS, BUT 600,000 ON A $19 MILLION SALES TAX COLLECTION. 
          OKAY. 
          SO IT'S NOT A LOT. 
          RIGHT. 
          AND THEN IT'S INCREASING 4% A YEAR. 
          SO, OKAY. 
          SO THAT'S WHAT THEY, IT'LL BE A SMALL AMOUNT FOR THAT TOO. 
          SO IF ALL OF A SUDDEN WE WERE COLLECTING 20 MILLION, THERE'S THEIR AMOUNT STILL ONLY GOES UP 4%. 
          LET'S SAY IT'S 700,000. 
          OKAY, GO AHEAD. 
          AND THAT'S 600,000, THAT'S AN UNBUDGETED INCREASE IN SALES TAX COLLECTIONS THAT WE'RE SEEING, RIGHT? CORRECT. 
          YES. 
          OUR PROJECTION FOR THROUGH THE END OF THE YEAR WILL BE SUFFICIENT TO COVER THAT. 
          CORRECT. 
          OKAY. 
          MR. CHAIRMAN, CAN I MAKE A RECOMMENDATION TO YOU, ? CERTAINLY. 
          UH, CAN WE, CAN YOU JUST GIVE SOME DIRECTION TO STAFF ON WHETHER YOU WANT, WHETHER IT'S AN OPT-IN OR OPT OUT OR A RESOLUTION? UM, THE OPT-IN OPTOUT IS REACTIVE. 
          I'D LIKE TO HAVE THE MUNICIPALITIES BE PROACTIVE. 
          THEY WERE THE ONES THAT CAME TO US TO BEGIN WITH. 
          SO IF YOU WANT THE MONEY PASSED A DANG RESOLUTION, TELL US YOU WANT IT. 
          QUIT PLAYING GAMES WITH THESE LETTERS THAT SAY GOD KNOWS WHAT, OR RESCINDING OR I, THAT'D BE MY PREFERENCE. 
          AND THEN WE CAN COME BACK TO YOU WITH MATH THAT SHOWS THE CONSEQUENCE. 
          BECAUSE REMEMBER, THIS ALL FLOWS FROM THAT TOTAL LEVY COUNTYWIDE. 
          I'M AFRAID IF WE SAY, WELL, IF YOU COME IN AND YOU'RE THREE GERMANTOWN, WE'LL STICK YOU WITH 3 83. 
          I THINK THAT'S GONNA MESS WITH THE WHOLE FORMULA EFFORT THAT AARON PUT TOGETHER. 
          I DON'T THINK IT'S THAT SIMPLE. 
          I REALLY THINK WHAT OUR, WHAT OUR JOB HERE TODAY IS, IS TO CONTINUE TO BE PRODUCTIVE. 
          WE NEED TO JUST GIVE THE DIRECTION, DO WE WANNA PROVIDE AN OPT-OUT OPTION? AND WE'RE NOT HERE TO MAKE THOSE DETAILS AND DETERMINE THEM TODAY. 
          THAT'S, THAT'S NOT WHAT WE'RE HERE TO DO. 
          BUT, UM, SO THAT BEING SAID, I'D LIKE SOME INPUT ON THAT. 
          WHAT DIRECTION WE WOULD YOU LIKE TO GIVE THE COUNTY EXECUTIVE? I THINK WE HAVE TO PROVIDE AN OPT-OUT OPTION, BUT I THINK I LIKE WHAT COUNTY EXECUTIVE SAID IS THAT WE FLIP IT AND IT'S AN OPT OUT AND HOPEFULLY EVERY COMMUNITY SEES THROUGH THE MISINFORMATION AND OPTS INTO THIS. 
          BUT I LIKE STARTING IT AS OPT IN. 
          OKAY. 
          AND GIVE THAT CHOICE ANY OTHER OKAY. 
          AND THAT'LL GIVE US TWO WEEKS UNTIL YOUR NEXT MEETING TO ACTUALLY COME UP WITH A, SOMETHING TO PRESENT TO YOU AND SAY THIS, THIS IS WHAT WORKS STATUTORILY AND MEETS WHAT YOU'RE ASKING FOR. 
          OKAY. 
          AND THEN WE CAN SHOW YOU THE MATH BEHIND IT. 
          YEP. 
          YEAH. 
          AND THAT'S WHAT THEY WANT. 
          YEP. 
          BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT THEY STATED TO ME. 
          IT'S JUST THEY WANNA SEE THE NUMBERS BEHIND IT ALL TOTALLY REASONABLE AND RIGHTLY SO. 
          I THINK YOU SHOULD, YOU KNOW. 
          OKAY. 
          THEN WE'LL GO WITH THE DIRECTION FROM THIS COMMITTEE IS TO CONSIDER THE OPT OUT OPTION AND, OR WORK TOWARDS THE OPT IN. 
          OKAY. 
          OKAY. 
          ARE THERE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS ABOUT THE PROPOSAL IN FRONT OF US? ANY MORE CONFUSION THAT WE CAN CLEAR UP? . 
          OKAY. 
          WONDERFUL. 
          I LISTENED TO EVERYONE. 
          I, I, IT'S 
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JUST A HABIT OF MINE. 
          OUR NEXT MEETING WILL BE, UH, SEPTEMBER 16TH AT 7:00 AM UH, WITH NO FURTHER BUSINESS, UH, WE WILL BE ADJOURNED. 
          ALL RIGHT.
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