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GOOD AFTERNOON, LADIES AND GENTLEMEN.
THIS SEPTEMBER MEETING OF THE HUMAN SERVICES COMMITTEE IS NOW IN ORDER.
THIS AGENDA WAS POSTED IN THE OFFICE OF THE COUNTY CLERK ON THE 18TH DAY OF SEPTEMBER, 2026.
NOTICE WAS SENT TO THE WASHINGTON COUNTY DAILY NEWS EXPRESS NEWS, W-I-B-D-W-N-B-Z RADIO, WTKM RADIO, MY COMMUNITY NOW HARTFORD TIMES PRESS, KIOSKI STATESMAN, AND THE MILWAUKEE JOURNAL SENTINEL.
WE WILL RISE FOR A MOMENT OF SILENT PRAYER AND THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE.
I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS, ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INVISIBLE WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE.
AND THANK YOU ALL FOR YOUR PATIENCE AND UNDERSTANDING THIS EVENING AS WE'VE RESCHEDULED FROM OUR NORMAL DATE, APPRECIATE THE FLEXIBILITY.
UH, LOOKING AT THE SECOND AGENDA ITEM, THE MINUTES FROM OUR AUGUST 18TH MEETING, WERE THERE ANY CORRECTIONS OR ADDITIONS THAT NEEDED TO BE MADE TO THE MINUTES? SEEING NONE, THEY'LL STAND AS PRESENTED.
ITEM NUMBER THREE, THEN POSSIBLE, UH, ACTION AND, AND DISCUSSION.
ITEM THREE, A VETERAN SERVICES REPORT.
AND FOR THAT, WE HAVE WITH US THIS AFTERNOON, MR. ROUSH.
I COME WITH, UH, PRETTY MUCH ALL GOOD NEWS TONIGHT.
SO IT'S, IT'S A FUN REPORT TO GIVE.
UM, SO I, I WON'T, UH, I WON'T BELABOR ANY SPECIFIC TOPIC IN THE REPORT.
UH, I'M, I'M SURE YOU CAN ALL LOOK AT IT THERE.
UM, BUT I DO WANNA TOUCH ON A COUPLE OF POINTS, UH, WITHIN EACH, UH, EACH SECTION.
UM, SO, UH, FIRST OFF, THE WISCONSIN DEPARTMENT OF VETERANS AFFAIRS TRANSPORTATION GRANT.
UH, LAST WEEK ACTUALLY, WE APPLIED FOR THAT GRANT FOR THE SECOND TIME, UH, WITH INTERFAITH CAREGIVERS.
IT DOESN'T CLOSE UNTIL EARLY NEXT MONTH, UH, BUT WE EXPECT THAT WE SHOULD BE ABLE TO GET THAT AGAIN, AND THAT IS JUST A PASS THROUGH.
UH, IF YOU REMEMBER OUR DISCUSSIONS FROM LAST YEAR, ALL THOSE DOLLARS GO DIRECTLY TO INTERFAITH CAREGIVERS WHO, UH, PROVIDES THOSE SERVICES.
UM, THE, UH, APPROXIMATION WAS ABOUT 28,000 MILES THAT THEY DROVE THIS YEAR, UH, THIS LAST YEAR, UH, FOR VETERANS, UH, MOSTLY TO THE VA IN MILWAUKEE, THE VA MEDICAL CENTER IN MILWAUKEE.
UM, SOME TRIPS ON A CASE BY CASE TO OTHER FACILITIES LIKE MADISON, IF, IF THE, IF THERE WAS A SINCERE NEED THAT ARO AROSE, UH, OR, UM, OR THE COMMUNITY BASED OUTREACH CLINIC IN OCONOMOWOC, WHICH MORE AND MORE OF OUR VETS FROM OUR COUNTY ARE USING, WHICH IS FANTASTIC.
UM, WE, I, I, THERE WAS A RUMOR, AND I GUESS IT'S STILL ON THE WAY THAT THERE'S GONNA BE A SEA OC EVENTUALLY BUILT IN FOND DULAC, WHICH, I'M SORRY, SEA B IS COMMUNITY BASED OUTREACH CLINIC.
UM, AND THAT WILL BE GREAT NEWS FOR OUR COMMUNITY AS WELL, BUT IT'S STILL SEVERAL YEARS AWAY FROM WHAT I UNDERSTAND.
UM, WASHINGTON COUNTY MILITARY DAY AT THE FAIR WAS A HUGE SUCCESS THIS YEAR, UH, FOR THE LAST MANY YEARS.
AND, AND THAT'S BIG THANKS TO JOHN KLEIN MOUSE, WHO, WHO REALLY OVERSEES A LOT OF THAT.
I DON'T KNOW IF YOU KNOW JOHN, BUT HE'S BIG WITH THE VFW HERE IN TOWN.
DOES A LOT OF GREAT THINGS FOR VETERANS LOCALLY, UH, WITH THE HONOR GUARD.
UM, JOHN, UM, JOHN DOES A GREAT JOB EVERY YEAR OF PUTTING TOGETHER A PROGRAM INSIDE THE ZIEGLER BUILDING.
AND, UH, THAT PROGRAM RUNS THE GAMUT OF EDUCATION AND PATRIOTISM, FLAG FOLDING, UH, STORIES ABOUT HOW, HOW THE, UH, YOU KNOW, HOW THE VARIOUS FLAG ITERATIONS OVER THE COURSE OF OUR HISTORY HAVE, HAVE COME ABOUT.
UM, AND WE WOULD NORMALLY BE A PART OF THAT PROGRAM.
WE STARTED IN THE ZIEGLER BUILDING WITH THE GUITAR PROGRAM, AND THEN WE MOVED OUTSIDE TO THE AMERICAN LEGION BURGER STAND.
AND BOY, OH BOY, WAS THAT A FANTASTIC, A FANTASTIC TIME.
THE INSTRUCTORS FROM OUR GUITAR PROGRAM PLAYED FOR TWO HOURS.
UH, WE GOT A LOT OF FACE TIME WITH VETERANS.
GOT TO PASS A LOT OF INFORMATION, SAW A LOT OF FAMILIAR FACES OUT THERE, UH, THAT I'VE SEEN OVER THE YEARS, UH, FOR VETS.
SO IT WAS A GREAT ENGAGEMENT OPPORTUNITY, AND I IMAGINE, UH, IT WILL BE SOMETHING WE DO IN THE FUTURE AND MAYBE DEVELOP A LITTLE BIT MORE.
SO IT WAS, IT WAS REALLY A GOOD TIME.
UM, THE WASHINGTON COUNTY GUITAR PROGRAM, AS ASIDE FROM THAT, IS GOING VERY WELL.
I'LL HAVE A REPORT ON THAT NEXT TIME.
UH, WE'VE GOT A GRADUATION COMING UP IN NOVEMBER.
UM, THE, UH, JUST WANTED TO MENTION, AND I KNOW DOUG, UH, BRIAN MENTIONED THIS LAST MONTH ABOUT THE GUARDRAIL PROGRAM, UH, FOR VETERAN MENTAL HEALTH, STARTING OCTOBER 5TH AT THE AMERICAN LEGION POST, UH, 36 HERE IN WEST BEND.
UM, THANK YOU TO THE AMERICAN LEGION POST FOR, UH, HOSTING THAT.
AND THEY'VE OFFERED SEVERAL TIMES FOR REFRESHMENTS, TOO.
WE'RE NOT DOING THAT AT THE FIRST, THE FIRST, UH, MEETING, BUT, UM, BUT IT'S A VERY GENEROUS OFFER AS WELL THAT THEY'VE MADE TO US.
UM, BUT THAT IS THE, UM, THE VETERAN, UH, SUPPORT MENTAL HEALTH SUPPORT PROGRAM THAT'S BEGINNING OCTOBER 5TH AT 11:00 AM
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AND WE'LL SEE HOW THAT PROGRAM DEVELOPS FROM THERE.UH, IF THERE'S A NEED FOR MORE, WE'LL, WE'LL LOOK AT THAT AND DEVELOP MORE AS, AS THE NEED IS THERE.
SO THAT'S, THAT'S VERY EXCITING AS WELL.
AND THEN FINALLY, I JUST WANNA MENTION, UM, WE HAVE TWO MORE CIVIL WAR MONUMENT DEDICATIONS YET THIS FALL.
UM, ONE IS COMING UP THIS WEEKEND, SEPTEMBER 27TH, UH, AT 1:00 PM IT'S IN DANSVILLE.
UM, THIS IS, UH, A MONUMENT SPONSORED BY MARGE MILLER AND KEN MILLER, UH, IN, IN MEMORY OF, UH, FORMER COUNTY BOARD CHAIR KEN MILLER.
UH, SO, UM, AND IT JUST SO HAPPENS TO BE DANVILLE'S.
OCTOBER FEST IS DIRECTLY ACROSS THE STREET, SO IT'S GONNA BE A HECK OF A PARTY.
UH, I, I HEAR PARKING IS GOING TO BE DIFFICULT, SO IF YOU SHOW UP, IT STARTS, I THINK, AT NOON.
YOU MAY WANNA, MAY WANNA, UH, ANTICIPATE THAT A LITTLE BIT, BUT IT'S GONNA BE A REALLY GOOD TIME.
THERE'S CANNONS THAT ARE GONNA BE THERE.
I HAVE, I HAVE BEEN TOLD THEY WILL NOT FIRE.
SO, UM, BUT, UH, IT'S GONNA BE A GREAT, UH, DEDICATION FOR OUR CIVIL WAR VETERANS IN THE, OUR SAVIOR CEMETERY IN DANSVILLE.
UM, AND THEN, UH, WE ALSO HAVE A DEDICATION COMING UP OCTOBER 4TH, UH, ON AT 1:00 PM SUNDAY AFTERNOON, UH, FOR PEACE UNITED CHURCH OF CHRIST.
THAT'S, UH, NORTHWEST OF KASKA.
UH, IT'S ON STATE ROAD 28, UH, JUST EAST OF HIGHLAND DRIVE.
SO THAT'S, UH, THAT'S GONNA BE A REALLY NICE DEDICATION THERE AS WELL.
SO THOSE ARE THE LAST TWO FOR THIS YEAR.
WE'RE GONNA HAVE ONE OR TWO NEXT SPRING, AND THAT SHOULD ROUND OUT THE PROGRAM.
UH, THERE IS ONE WHERE THE HOUSES, THERE'S A, A CEMETERY THAT BELONGS TO THE PROPERTY OWNED BY A HOUSE.
UM, THAT HOUSE IS FOR SALE, SO THEY HAVE, UH, THEY HAVE NOT WANTED TO PUT THE MONUMENT IN AS OF NOW.
WE'RE GONNA SPEAK TO THE NEXT OWNERS OF THAT HOUSE AND SEE IF IT'S POSSIBLE.
THAT'LL BE SOMETHING WE'LL DO.
ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT ANYTHING I COVERED? GO AHEAD.
HEY, AND GREAT JOB, UM, AT THE, UH, COUNTY FAIR.
UM, MY FAMILY AND I WERE EATING AT THE AMERICAN LEGION POST, AND WE GOT TO LISTEN TO SOME OF THAT, SO, OH, GREAT.
UM, WE'VE BEEN THERE EVERY YEAR.
WE ALWAYS EAT AT THAT AREA, AND THAT WAS THE FIRST TIME OUT THERE SEEING THEM PLAY.
SOUNDS LIKE WE ARE, UM, LOOKING AT THAT.
UM, I LIKE THE OUTREACH YOU'RE DOING, UM, AND I'M GLAD THE AMERICAN LEGION'S SUPPORTING THAT HERE.
UM, I KNOW IT'S THE FIRST ONE.
IS THERE A CONSIDERATION FOR FUTURE ONES TO POSSIBLY BE MAYBE EVEN EVENING OR WEEKEND HOURS, UM, TO ALLOW, UM, OBVIOUSLY THE MAJORITY OF VETERANS ARE GONNA GO TO THIS ONE, ARE GONNA BE RETIRED VETERANS, OLDER VETERANS, UM, BUT IS THERE ANY LOOK TO GET SOME, UM, AFTER BUSINESS HOURS TO GET, YOU KNOW, OTHER VETERANS TO BE ABLE TO ATTEND? WE'VE, WE'VE TALKED ABOUT THAT, UM, UH, A FEW TIMES.
THE INTEREST SEEMS TO BE IN THE OLDER VETERAN COMMUNITY AS WE'VE, AS WE'VE HEARD SO FAR.
UM, THAT DOESN'T MEAN THAT THERE ISN'T INTEREST IN THE YOUNGER VETERAN COMMUNITY.
UM, YEAH, IT ABSOLUTELY, I, I THINK THAT OVER TIME, IF THERE'S, UH, DESIRE, NEED, COMMUNICATION, THAT THERE'S MORE INTEREST OUTSIDE OF THESE, THESE TIMEFRAMES WE'RE GONNA LOOK FOR, FOR OTHER TIMES, WE CAN DO IT.
UM, LOOKING AT A, IT, IT'LL, IT'LL ALSO BE A QUESTION OF WHERE WE CAN DO IT AT THAT POINT.
A LOT OF PLACES ARE AVAILABLE DURING THE DAY BECAUSE THEY HAVE REGULAR EVENING, EVENING MEETINGS, BUT I'M SURE THAT WE'LL BE ABLE TO WORK THAT OUT.
I JUST WANTED TO SAY THANK YOU AGAIN FOR THE CIVIL WAR MONUMENTS.
THE, UM, THE ONE AT BUFFALO TRINITY CEMETERY, WE WERE ABLE TO HAVE THE CANNON, AND THAT WAS VERY COOL.
SO DID THEY FIRE THE CANON AT BUFFALO? YEAH, I MISSED IT.
UM, ONE QUICK QUESTION IN, IN YOUR RESPONSE TO SUPERVISOR STEWART'S QUESTION, YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT OLDER AND YOUNGER VETERANS, AND JUST FOR PERSPECTIVE, WHAT, WHAT AGES ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT? OR, YOU KNOW, WHERE'S, WHERE'S THE DELINEATION THERE? SURE, YEAH, THAT'S A GOOD QUESTION.
SO I THINK WHEN WE, WHEN WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THOSE, TYPICALLY IT'S, IT'S BASED ON WORKING AGE AND NON-WORKING AGE.
VETERANS, UM, THEY, VETERANS OFTEN CAN BE DEFINED BY THEIR ERA AS WELL, UH, AND ERA AS FAR AS CONFLICTS ARE CONCERNED.
UM, BECAUSE THERE, THERE IS DISTINCT DIFFERENCES BETWEEN VETERANS OF DIFFERENT ERAS.
UH, AND WE KIND OF, WE'VE WATCHED, WALKED A TIGHTROPE WITH THIS 'CAUSE WE'RE NOT SURE HOW IT'S GONNA GO, WHETHER OR NOT VETERANS OF, UH, FOR, FOR INSTANCE, THE VIETNAM ERA WILL, WILL WORK WELL IN A, IN A, UM, YOU KNOW, A MENTAL HEALTH SUPPORT PROGRAM WITH VETERANS OF, SAY THE PERSIAN GULF WAR ERA.
IF THERE WILL BE, UM, YOU KNOW, ANY SORT OF ANIMOSITY OR, OR PROBLEMS WITHIN, NOT, NOT THAT THERE'S GOING TO BE AN ARGUMENT OR ANYTHING, BUT WHETHER OR NOT THERE WILL BE A, A, YOU KNOW, TOTAL COMFORT IN THAT GROUP, UM, WITH, UM, VERY DIFFERENT EXPERIENCES, UH, OF THOSE TWO DIFFERENT, DIFFERENT GENERATIONS.
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KIND OF FEELING THAT OUT AND TRYING TO FIGURE OUR BEST PATH FORWARD.UM, SO IT'S, IT'S A LOT OF LEARNING THAT'S GOING ON.
THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE THIS AFTERNOON.
WERE THERE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? ALRIGHT.
ITEM THREE B ON OUR AGENDAS RESOLUTION, UH, 2026 RESOLUTION TO AUTHORIZE 1.25 FULL-TIME EQUIVALENT CRISIS INTERVENTION SPECIALIST TO BE ASSIGNED TO THE WEST BEND POLICE DEPARTMENT.
AND, UH, THANKS TO THE CHIEF DEARING FROM THE WEST BEND POLICE DEPARTMENT.
ALSO, DOUG BRI IS HERE, AND I'LL LET OUR, UH, CHIEF OF HUMAN SERVICES, JULIE DRISCOLL, KICK THIS OFF.
UM, SO AS YOU RECALL LAST MONTH, UM, YOU DID GET A PRESENTATION OR UPDATE ON, UM, THIS PILOT THAT WE'VE BEEN WORKING ON FOR THE LAST YEAR, UM, FROM OUR DIVISION MANAGER OF BEHAVIORAL HEALTH, DOUG BRI.
UM, SO AS YOU CAN, UH, IMAGINE THERE IS NOW AN ASK FOLLOWING THAT, THAT, THAT UPDATE IN THAT, UH, PRESENTATION TO YOU.
SO WHAT YOU HAVE BEFORE YOU TODAY, UM, IS A REQUEST FOR US TO CONTINUE THIS IN A PILOT PHASE.
UM, BUT BY ADDING STAFFING TO, UM, THIS PILOT, UM, IN THE FORM OF 1.25 FTES, UM, SO THAT WE CAN CONTINUE TO MANAGE THE OPERATION, THE 24 7 OPERATIONS OF OUR CRISIS AND ADULT PROTECTIVE SERVICES UNIT, UM, WHILE CONTINUING TO, UM, CODIFY AND BEEF UP, UM, THIS PARTNERSHIP WITH WEST BEND POLICE DEPARTMENT.
AS I'M SURE DOUG DESCRIBED LAST MONTH, UM, THIS HAS BEEN A VERY SUCCESSFUL, UM, PILOT.
UM, IT HAS REALLY STRENGTHENED OUR CRISIS RESPONSE IN THE COMMUNITY.
IT HAS STRENGTHENED OUR, UM, RELATIONSHIP WITH OUR LARGEST, UM, LAW ENFORCEMENT JURISDICTION IN WASHINGTON COUNTY.
UM, AND WE'RE VERY EAGER TO CONTINUE THIS AND TO SEE, UM, WHAT OUTCOMES CAN BE ACHIEVED, UM, FROM THIS.
UM, SO THERE IS A LOT OF INFORMATION IN YOUR PACKET.
YOU CAN SEE WE HAVE AN MOU, UM, OR DRAFT MOU, UM, THAT WE HAVE CO UM, DRAFTED WITH, UM, CHIEF DEERING AND CAPTAIN INGER.
UM, AND NOT SIGNED BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, WE HAVEN'T FULLY, UH, FULLY GOTTEN APPROVAL FOR THIS CONTINUATION OF THIS PILOT.
UM, AND WHAT WE'RE ASKING FOR IS TO UTILIZE OPIOID SETTLEMENT DOLLARS, UM, FOR THE NEXT THREE YEARS, UM, SO THAT WE CAN CONTINUE OUR EVALUATION FURTHER, UM, THIS RELATIONSHIP AND FURTHER, UM, THE OUTCOMES IN THE COMMUNITY.
UM, SO THEN ALONG WITH YOUR PACKET, UM, IS JUST A STATUS OF OUR OPIOID SETTLEMENT DOLLARS TO DATE.
ONE IS THE AMOUNT OF OPIOID SETTLEMENT DOLLARS THAT WE WOULD, WILL BE RECEIVING, UM, BETWEEN, UM, 2022 AND 2038.
UM, AND THEN THE SECOND, UM, REPORT IS THE, UM, FUNDING THAT HAS BEEN APPROVED AND OR EXPENDED, AND THEN SOME ADDITIONAL FUNDS, UM, THAT WE DO NOT HAVE APPROVED.
UM, ONE OF THEM BEING THE COS RESPONDER PROGRAM TODAY.
AND THEN, OF COURSE, OUR DRUG TREATMENT COURT FUNDING IN THE FUTURE.
SO AS YOU CAN SEE, UM, WITH THE FUNDS THAT WE WILL BE RECEIVING OR HAVE RECEIVED, UM, AND THEN THE AMOUNT OF FUNDING THAT IS APPROVED AND OR EXPENDED, UM, WE STILL HAVE A BALANCE EITHER, EITHER IN OUR BANK TODAY OR FORTHCOMING IN FUTURE PAYMENTS OF ABOUT $4.4 MILLION, UM, FOR OPIOID SETTLEMENT.
UM, SO I'LL STOP THERE, UM, AND SEE IF THERE ARE ANY QUESTIONS, UM, ABOUT THIS REQUEST.
AND FOR THE BENEFIT OF THE COMMITTEE, WHAT I'D LIKE TO DO, SINCE THE, THE PACKET IS RATHER COMPLETE, RIGHT? UM, IF THERE ARE ANY QUESTIONS, FIRST WITH REGARD TO THE PROGRAM, LET'S DISCUSS THOSE.
AND THEN WITH REGARD TO THE, UM, MEMORANDUM OF UNDERSTANDING, LET'S TALK ABOUT THOSE AND THEN THE FUNDING AND FINALLY GET TO THE RESOLUTION JUST SO WE PROGRESS IN AN ORDERLY WAY RATHER THAN HOPPING BACK AND FORTH.
SO, DID ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, FIRST OF ALL ABOUT THE PROGRAM IN ITSELF? WE'VE, WE'VE HEARD ABOUT IT A LITTLE BIT BEFORE, AND, UH, I'D ENTERTAIN COMMENTS FROM CHIEF DEERING.
UM, IF YOU HAVE ANYTHING YOU'D LIKE TO ADD TO THE REPORT, IF NOT, UM, GOOD AFTERNOON.
I, I WILL KEEP MY COMMENTS BRIEF, I PROMISE YOU THAT.
AND JULIE, YOU FEEL FREE TO YANK ME WHEN, UH, I FAIL TO ACHIEVE THAT PROMISE.
UH, IT HAS ABSOLUTELY BEEN, UH, A WIN WIN WIN THIS PROGRAM'S ROLLOUT.
UH, I'M VERY APPRECIATIVE OF THE FACT THAT, UH, UH, H OUR PARTNERS AT HSD AND A CS WERE WILLING TO MAYBE SUSPEND A LITTLE BIT OF THE NORMAL PROCESS TO REALLY PUSH AN ACTION STEP AND JUST BEGIN THIS PROGRAM FROM THE PILOT PIECE.
I'M LEARNING CONSTANTLY FROM, UH, JULIE AND HER TEAM ABOUT
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HOW YOU PROCESS DATA WHEN YOU LOOK AT OUTCOMES AND REALLY APPRECIATE THE FACT THAT THIS NEXT THREE YEAR PROGRAM IS REALLY TO DO EXACTLY THAT.UH, JUST REDUCING HOURS IS NOT, THAT MIGHT BE A VERY NICE DATA POINT TO LOOK AT, BUT THAT'S NOT SUCCESS.
SUCCESS IS USING THOSE HOURS MORE EFFICIENTLY, MAKING SURE THAT WE'RE MAKING A DIFFERENCE, THAT WE'RE HITTING ROOT CAUSE.
IF WE CAN LIMIT THE AMOUNT OF TIME THAT WE'RE SPENDING IN AN, LET'S SAY, FOR INSTANCE, IN THE EMERGENCY ROOM, GUARDING A A CITIZEN WHO NEEDS HELP, AND INSTEAD THAT SAME LEVEL OF TIME BEING OUT IN THE COMMUNITY, BEING PROACTIVE, MAKING SURE THAT WE'RE ADDRESSING, UH, SOME OF OUR CITIZENS WHO HAVE BEEN PUT ON SAFETY PLANS THAT FOLLOW UP THAT WE ALL KNOW IS HAPPENING, BUT DOING IT BETTER, DOING IT MORE EFFICIENTLY, TRYING TO HEAD OFF BEFORE INCARCERATION, BEFORE DETENTION BECOMES AN ISSUE.
THAT SUCCESS AS A DATA POINT IS REALLY HARD, UH, TO QUANTIFY OUTSIDE OF ANECDOTAL.
BUT I CAN TELL YOU IT'S HAPPENING ALREADY.
UH, THERE HAS BEEN NO NEGATIVE TO OUR MOVING FORWARD WITH THIS PROCESS.
IT'S HELPED OUR, OUR ORGANIZATIONS WORK MORE COLLABORATIVELY.
UH, I WOULDN'T SAY THAT WE WERE ADVERSARIAL AT THE OUTSET.
WE DIDN'T COMMUNICATE WELL BECAUSE WE DIDN'T SPEND TIME TOGETHER.
'CAUSE WE, OUR MISSIONS WERE, UH, SOMEWHAT BIFURCATED, BUT WORKING TOWARDS THE SAME GOALS.
NOW OUR TEAMS ARE, UH, MUCH MORE COLLABORATIVE, EVEN ON AN ADMINISTRATIVE LEVEL.
I'M REALLY HAPPY THAT IT'S ON THE FRONTLINE LEVEL THAT OUR OFFICERS AND THE, UH, CRISIS WORKERS WHO'VE BEEN, UH, ASSIGNED, UM, REALLY TRULY WORK AS A TEAM.
OUR, OUR CRISIS WORKERS WHO ARE EMBEDDED RIGHT NOW AND THEY ATTEND OUR BRIEFINGS.
THEY HAVE OUR, UH, SOME OFFICE SPACE DEDICATED TO THEM.
THEY'VE MADE IT THEIR OWN, WHICH WE'RE REALLY HAPPY ABOUT.
AND THEY DEFINITELY FEEL PART OF, UH, THE TEAM.
OUR TEAM IS HAPPY WHEN THEY'RE THERE, WHICH I KNOW THAT SOUNDS LIKE, OF COURSE THEY WOULD BE.
NO, I MEAN, IT'S A NEW PROGRAM.
IT'S ADDED, UH, RESPONSIBILITIES AND OTHER THINGS.
OUR TEAM IS HAPPY WHEN THEY'RE THERE.
THEY'VE TRULY INTEGRATED INTO THE DEPARTMENT, SO WE'RE HAPPY ABOUT, I'D LIKE TO MAKE SURE THAT WE, UH, THIS IS A VERY CLEAR POINT.
THIS PROGRAM HAS NEVER BEEN TO REPLACE THE CREW, UH, PROGRAM.
THE CREW'S A VERY SUCCESSFUL PROGRAM.
WE CONTINUE TO UTILIZE IT IN AS A, A PART OF OUR TOOLBOX TO SERVE OUR CITIZENS.
THIS IS TO HELP, UH, MAKE SURE THAT OUR CITIZENS IN THE CITY OF WEST BEND ARE GETTING THE LEVEL OF SERVICE, THE BEST LEVEL OF SERVICE THEY CAN, WORKING THROUGH OUR MENTAL HEALTH, UH, I WOULD SAY CRISIS AT THIS POINT, UH, TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE SERVING THOSE CITIZENS AND MAKING SURE THAT WE'RE BEING GOOD PARTNERS AS WELL.
I'LL ENTERTAIN REALLY ANY QUESTIONS YOU HAVE, BUT THAT REALLY IS IT IN A NUTSHELL.
JULIE'S DONE A WONDERFUL JOB PRESENTING IT AND, UH, IT'S REALLY BEEN A WONDERFUL THING.
ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE COMMITTEE? JUST A QUICK ONE, AND I, I SHOULD HAVE ASKED YOU AHEAD OF TIME SO YOU, YOU COULD PREPARE, BUT WHAT, WHAT'S THE MOST, UM, IT SOUNDS LIKE, WHAT'S THE MOST SURPRISINGLY GOOD THING TO COME OUT OF THIS PROGRAM? UH, I THINK THE RELATIONSHIP BUILDING, IT TRULY IS JUST THE FACT THAT, UH, AGAIN, WE WEREN'T ADVERSARIAL.
WE'RE JUST LIKE MOST, SOMETIMES IT'S VERY COMMON IN GOVERNMENT TO BE SILOED AND YOU WORK TOGETHER, BUT SEPARATELY, IF THAT MAKES SENSE, RIGHT? YEP.
IN THOSE SILOS, WE'VE DEFINITELY SEEN A BREAKDOWN OF THOSE SILOS, UH, ON THE BOOTS ON THE GROUND LEVEL.
BUT THEN THAT'S REALLY TRANS, UH, FORMED UP THE CHAIN TO OUR MEETING ON A REGULAR BASIS.
OUR TEAMS MEETING ON A REGULAR BASIS, WORKING THROUGH, UH, ISSUES.
NOW WHEN, UH, WE'RE PICKING UP THE PHONE AND TALKING ABOUT, UH, EVEN SPECIFIC ISSUES, THERE'S JUST A BETTER RELATIONSHIP.
SO IF YOU'RE ASKING ABOUT SURPRISING, I FELT THAT THAT WOULD BE AN OUTCOME.
BUT I'M GLAD IT'S BEEN TO THE LEVEL THAT IT IS VERY GOOD.
THE INCREASE IN SERVICE WAS NOT A SURPRISE.
IF THERE ARE NO OTHER QUESTIONS, THEN WE'LL MOVE ON TO THE, UH, MEMORANDUM OF UNDERSTANDING SECTION.
UM, IT WAS ALL IN THE PACKET, SO IT, IT IS FAIRLY SELF-EXPLANATORY, I THINK.
WERE THERE ANY QUESTIONS FROM THE COMMITTEE? WELL, THAT WAS EASY.
WE'LL JUST MOVE ON TO THE FUNDING THEN.
ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS THERE? ALRIGHT, WELL THAT'S EASY.
UM, THE FUNDING RIGHT NOW, IS IT FUNDING THE CURRENT 50 HOURS? IS THAT, OR IS IT, ARE YOU LOOKING TO INCREASE THAT BECAUSE IT'S BEING, IT'S SO SUCCESSFUL YOU'RE LOOKING TO INCREASE THAT.
SO I GUESS I DIDN'T REALLY NOTICE THE HISTORY OF LIKE, HOW MANY HOURS HAVE BEEN DEDICATED PRIOR TO THIS MM-HMM
IS IT THE SAME OR WAS IT LESS? YEAH, SO WE STARTED, UM, UH, LAST YEAR AT THE BEGINNING OF THIS YEAR, UM, WITH ONE DAY A WEEK, RIGHT? SO WE, WE PULLED, UH, A CRISIS WORKER FROM THE REGULAR, UM, TEAM SCHEDULE AND ASSIGNED THEM, UM, TO THE WEST BEND PD ONE DAY A WEEK.
AND OVER THE LAST YEAR, WE'VE JUST INCREASED THAT
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TIME, BUT WE'RE CURRENTLY ACHIEVING IT BY UTILIZING FOUR STAFF.SO YOU HAVE FOUR DIFFERENT STAFF THAT ARE DOING 10 HOUR SHIFTS.
WE HAVE GOTTEN UP TO 40 HOURS RIGHT NOW.
UM, BUT YOU JUST, EVERY DAY IT'S A DIFFERENT STAFF PERSON.
UM, AND SO WE'RE TRYING TO ACHIEVE SOME CONTINUITY, UM, SOME SCHEDULING THAT'S, UH, CAN BE PREDICTABLE, UM, SO THAT THE OFFICERS AND THE LEADERSHIP AT WEST BEND KNOW WHO'S GONNA BE COMING.
AND WITH THAT, AS CHIEF DEERING, UM, INDICATED THAT RELATIONSHIP DEVELOPMENT, THEY KNOW THE TWO STAFF THAT ARE GONNA BE ASSIGNED TO THEIR DEPARTMENT ON WHAT DAYS.
AND SO THAT WE CAN JUST FURTHER THIS, UM, THIS SERVICE AND THIS RELATIONSHIP, UM, TO PROVIDE THE BEST SERVICE TO THE COMMUNITY WE CAN.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS THEN TO THE FINANCES? ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS WITH REGARDING OR, UH, WITH REGARD TO THE FINANCES AS PRESENTED? ALL RIGHT, THEN TO THE RESOLUTION ITSELF, IS ANY ADDITIONAL BACKGROUND INFORMATION NEEDED? IF NOT, I WOULD ENTERTAIN A MOTION.
WE HAVE A MOTION FROM, OR DID YOU HAVE A QUESTION? NO.
A MOTION FROM SUPERVISOR BAILEY? YES.
FROM SUPERVISOR TROUTNER? YES.
ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR OF, UH, APPROVING THE RESOLUTION AS PRESENTED, SAY AYE.
ARE THERE ANY OPPOSED? THAT MOTION CARRIES.
ON THE NEXT ITEM, UM, ITEM THREE C, HEALTH AND HUMAN SERVICES BUILDING PROJECT UPDATE.
AND FOR THAT WE HAVE CHIEF OF PUBLIC WORKS, MR. SCOTT SCHMIDT HERE, AS WELL AS, UM, CHIEF OF HEALTH AND HUMAN SERVICES FOR PRESENTATION AND QUESTIONS.
UH, THANK YOU AND, AND THANKS FOR HAVING ME TONIGHT.
I'LL JUST, UH, I'M GONNA BACK UP A LITTLE STEP ON THIS.
SO THE, THE COUNTY'S BEEN WORKING ON A MASTER PLAN FOR WELL OVER 10 YEARS NOW, UH, ON OUR COUNTY CAMPUS.
AND YOU'VE, YOU'VE PROBABLY SEEN SOME OF THOSE, UH, THINGS THAT HAVE COME TO LAND.
OUR COUNTY CAMPUS, OBVIOUSLY REMODELING.
THIS BUILDING IS PROBABLY VERY PREVALENT EVERYBODY RIGHT NOW AS YOU ENTER THE BUILDING.
BUT BEFORE THAT WAS AN ELEVATOR PROJECT, UH, SOME PARKING LOT PROJECTS AND, UH, THE FUEL ISLAND MOVING OVER TO THE, TO THE HIGHWAY DEPARTMENT.
SO WE'VE HAD A LOT OF WORK IN THE MASTER PLAN.
AND, UH, EARLY THIS YEAR, WE WENT TO THE EXECUTIVE COMMITTEE TO SEE IF THEY WANTED TO GO AND, UH, GO FURTHER IN THE MASTER PLAN.
AND THAT WAS LOOKING AT THE, THE PUBLIC AGENCY CENTER.
AND ALONG THOSE LINES WAS ALSO AT THE PUBLIC AGENCY CENTER.
IF THE PUBLIC AGENCY CENTER GOES AWAY, WHAT WOULD WE DO TO UTILIZE ON THAT LAND? AND SO YOU MIGHT HAVE ALSO SEEN THAT THERE'S A NEXT GENERATION HOUSING POTENTIAL FOR THAT PROPERTY SOUTH OF 33 IN INDIANA.
SO I'M GONNA SHOW YOUR ATTENTION UP TO, UP TO THE SCREEN, UH, ALL IN FOUR CORNERS OF THE ROOM.
SO, UH, WE'RE CURRENTLY IN THE GOVERNMENT CENTER IN THIS BUILDING RIGHT HERE.
AND WE'RE LOOKING AT THE PAC PUBLIC AGENCY CENTER.
IT'S ON THE SOUTH SIDE OF 33 EAST SIDE OF INDIANA.
AND THAT IS WHERE THE HUMAN SERVICES, UH, DEPARTMENT AS WELL AS OTHER DEPARTMENTS LIKE A DRC VET SERVICES, WHICH YOU HEARD EARLIER, HEALTH DEPARTMENT, UH, ARE CURRENTLY IN THAT BUILDING.
THE NATURAL RESOURCES DEPARTMENT, WHICH IS IN THAT BUILDING, IS MOVING OVER HERE RIGHT AFTER THE FIRST OF THE YEAR INTO THIS BUILDING WHERE THE TREASURER REGISTER OF DEEDS WAS.
SO WE'RE KIND OF CONSOLIDATING THIS AND MOVING SOME SPACE OVER HERE.
WHAT THAT AMOUNTS TO, AND I'M GONNA ZOOM INTO THAT PUBLIC AGENCY CENTER.
WHAT IT AMOUNTS TO IS THAT THE HUMAN SERVICES, I'LL CALL IT THE WEST HALF OR PORTION OF THE BUILDING, EVEN THOUGH IT'S A LARGER PORTION, UH, IS, IS WHERE THOSE FUNCTIONS, UH, RESIDE CURRENTLY, THE EASTERN PORTION, UH, THE FIRST FLOOR WAS EXTENSION, NOW IT'S BEING RENTED OUT TO SERONA.
AND THE SECOND FLOOR IS NATURAL RESOURCES WITH A SMALL AREA DEDICATED TO, UH, PART OF THE HUMAN SERVICES DEPARTMENT.
AND THE THIRD FLOOR, UH, WE RENT THAT OR LEASE THAT OUT TO OUR NATURAL RESOURCES CONSERVATION, WHICH IS NRCS AND U-S-D-A-N-R-C-S AND FSA, EXCUSE ME, FARM SERVICE AGENCY.
UH, SO OBVIOUSLY, UH, THEY MIGHT HAVE TO FIND ANOTHER PLACE TO GO, UH, IF THEY, UH, IF SO, IS CHOOSE TO, TO, UH, REMOVE FROM THE PAC.
BUT WHY I SAY THAT IS THAT, UH, WE STARTED THIS CONVERSATION BACK EARLIER THIS YEAR.
WE WENT OUT TO AN RFP, WHICH IS A REQUEST FOR PROPOSALS FOR ARCHITECTURAL SERVICES TO ADVANCE THE MASTER PLAN AND LOOK FORWARD WHAT THAT MASTER PLAN HAD RECOMMENDED AT THAT TIME.
AGAIN, GETTING IT BACK TO NORTH SIDE OF 33, UH, THIS IS ROS AVENUE, WHICH GETS YOU BACK TO THE, THE HIGHWAY DEPARTMENT IS TO CREATE A HUMAN SERVICES BUILDING ON THIS SIDE OF THE ROADWAY.
RIGHT NOW, OUR CURRENT LOCATION THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT IS AT THE CORNER OF ROLSON 33.
YOU'LL SEE A WOODED AREA THAT LIES THERE.
WE'LL GET INTO MORE SITE SPECIFICS A LITTLE BIT LATER ON, BUT THAT'S THE GENERAL LOCATION WE'RE LOOKING AT DOING.
THE RE REASON WHY WE CHOSE THAT LOCATION AND WHY THAT PART OF THE MASTER PLAN IS
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THAT BASICALLY FREES US UP, UH, FROM ALMOST ALL THE PROPERTY ON THE SOUTH SIDE OF STATE HIGHWAY 33.I'M ASSUMING THE COMMITTEE UNDERSTANDS THAT OUR CURRENT RIVER'S BEND PROPERTY IS, IS UP FOR SALE RIGHT NOW.
UM, AND WE HAVE SOME, SOME POSITIVE MOVEMENT ON THAT.
UH, THE SAMARITAN HOME SITE WAS SOLD.
UH, THE BALD DIAMONDS, UH, WERE SOLD AS WELL AS WE HAVE FAMILY FAMILY PROMISE LIVING HERE, WHICH AGAIN, WAS ALSO SOLD OFF.
SO IF WE MOVE THE PAC, EVERYTHING THAT'S ON THE SOUTH SIDE OF 33, UH, COULD POTENTIALLY, DEPENDING ON HOW YOU LOOK AT IT, GO BACK ON ONTO THE TAX ROLLS, AND WE'LL GO INTO WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE A LITTLE BIT LATER ON.
BUT I JUST WANT TO ORIENTATE YOU HOLISTICALLY ABOUT WHAT THE MASTER PLAN ENVELOPS AND WHY WE MOVE THE FUEL ISLAND OVER TO THE HIGHWAY DEPARTMENT SO WE CAN MAKE ROOM FOR THE HUMAN SERVICES BUILDING.
UH, THIS IS AN OLDER PICTURE, AND APOLOGIZE, GOOGLE'S NOT UP TO DATE RIGHT NOW.
UH, IF YOU'VE BEEN TO OUR EAST SIDE OF THE BUILDING, UH, THERE'S A NEW PARKING LOT IN THERE BECAUSE THAT'S OUR NEW MAIN ENTRANCE INTO THE BUILDING.
SO, UH, THE GENERAL PUBLIC AND THE CHIEF THAT WAS HERE TONIGHT, NOW THEY'RE ENTERING OFF OF ROLLS, UH, COMING DOWN THIS ROAD AND PARKING ON THE EAST SIDE, AND IT'S NOW OUR MAIN ENTRANCE.
I GOTTA SPIN AROUND, HOPEFULLY DON'T GET ANYBODY SICK.
UH, BUT YOU COME INTO THE MAIN BUILDING, BOTH THE JUSTICE CENTER GOVERNMENT CENTER COMES INTO THIS LOCATION.
UH, YOU'RE COMING DOWN, IF YOU WANT TO GO INTO THE SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT, YOU CAN GO HERE.
AND OBVIOUSLY OTHER LOCATIONS WHERE HUBER AND STUFF ARE ALSO ON THAT BUILDING.
UH, SO THE THOUGHT PROCESSES OF THAT, THE HUMAN SERVICES BUILDING IS CONSTRUCTED HERE.
IT, IT'S A ONE STOP SHOP, UH, FOR THE COUNTY PEOPLE THAT ARE COMING TO WASHINGTON COUNTY, THEY WOULD COME, UH, DOWN THIS ROAD RIGHT HERE.
AND I'D EITHER STOP AT THE HUMAN SERVICES BUILDING OR COME TO THE GOVERNMENT CENTER JUSTICE CENTER OR THE SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT.
AND IT ALSO, LIKE I SAID EARLIER, FREES UP THIS AREA ON THE SOUTH SIDE TO BE, TO BE REDEVELOPED.
UH, IF YOU'RE NOT FAMILIAR WITH THE PAC, AND I HOPE YOU ALL HAVE HAD A CHANCE TO VISIT THE PUBLIC AGENCY CENTER IN JULIE'S DEPARTMENTS.
UH, THE BUILDING HAS GOT SOME CHALLENGES, UH, NOT JUST WITH SECURITY, BUT JUST ENTRANCES.
YOU COME IN EITHER AT THE GROUND FLOOR OR THE BACK OF THE BUILDING, OR THE SECOND FLOOR ON THE OTHER BUILDING, AND YOU COME INTO AN AREA AND THE FIRST THING YOU'RE LOOKING AT IS AN ELEVATOR SHAFT AND, AND WHERE TO GO.
UH, SO IT'S VERY CONFUSING FOR PEOPLE THAT ARE UTILIZING THAT BUILDING.
I SPENT ABOUT 15 YEARS WORKING OUTTA THAT BUILDING, AND QUITE A FEW TIMES WE HAD TO TELL PEOPLE WHERE THEY DO WE NEED TO GO AND HOW TO GET THERE.
SO, UH, SO WITH THAT, WE'RE LOOKING AT THAT OPTION.
AND SO WHAT OUR SCHEDULE IS CURRENTLY IS THAT WE'VE BEEN WORKING WITH THE BUILDING COMMITTEE, AND THAT'S BEEN MEMBERS OF, OF THE COUNTY BOARD, UH, FOR SEVERAL MONTHS NOW.
THEY'VE BEEN SEEING A LOT OF THIS INFORMATION.
WE'RE ALSO SHARING WITH THE PUBLIC WORKS COMMITTEE, AND THIS WILL EVENTUALLY GO TO EXECUTIVE COMMITTEE AND TO THE COUNTY BOARD, BUT WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THE HUMAN SERVICES COMMITTEE ALSO GOT A CHANCE TO LOOK AT THIS IN A LITTLE BIT MORE DETAIL AT ONE OF THEIR MEETINGS VERSUS JUST FIRST SEEING IT AT THE COUNTY BOARD.
JULIA'S HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MIGHT HAVE SPECIFICALLY, BUT I'M GONNA ROLL THROUGH, UH, SOME OF THE THOUGHT PROCESSES AS LONG AS THE BUILDING.
BUT THE SCHEDULE WE'RE LOOKING AT RIGHT NOW IS TAKING IT ANOTHER BUILDING COMMITTEE COMING UP THE OCTOBER 6TH, UH, DEPENDING ON THE OUTCOME OF THAT PUBLIC WORKS IN OCTOBER, UH, POTENTIALLY EXECUTIVE COMMITTEE IN EITHER OCTOBER OR NOVEMBER.
AND THEN AGAIN, EITHER COUNTY BOARD NOVEMBER OR DECEMBER.
WHEN WE SAY THAT'S COMING TO THAT, THAT'S WHEN WE'LL START ASKING, GOING, WHICH OPTION OF THE OPTIONS WE'RE GONNA TALK ABOUT LATER ON, DO YOU WANT TO PURSUE? AND THEN POTENTIALLY BORROW THE MONEY FOR THAT, THOSE OPTIONS TO ACTUALLY UNDERTAKE THOSE, THOSE WHICH ONE OF THOSE OPTIONS ARE CHOSEN.
SO THAT'S KIND OF OUR, OUR SCHEDULE IN A NUTSHELL.
AND WITH THAT, I'D, UH, WOULD LIKE TO GO THROUGH ONE OF THE FIRST OPTIONS, UH, IS POTENTIALLY THAT NEW BUILDING, WHICH I DID MENTION EARLIER.
THIS IS THE, UH, RENDITION FROM THE ARCHITECTURAL FIRM THAT WE DID HIRE TO DO THIS.
THAT WAS ABOUT $460,000 FOR THIS PHASE.
THEY ALSO DID WHAT'S CALLED A SPACE NEEDS ANALYSIS.
SO THEY MET MULTIPLE TIME WITH JULIE AND HER TEAM, UH, TO FIGURE OUT WHAT THEIR NEEDS WOULD POTENTIALLY BE.
THAT WEST HALF OF THE BUILDING THAT I SHOWED YOU EARLIER IS ABOUT 75,000 SQUARE FEET.
UH, JULIE'S TEAM IS LOOKING AT UTILIZING ABOUT 65,000 SQUARE FEET.
SO WE'RE ABLE TO FIND SOME EFFICIENCIES JUST BY THE WAY WE CONFIGURED THE BUILDING, MOVE THE BUILDING AND ALL THAT, THAT KIND OF GOOD STUFF THAT WORK WITH THE ARCHITECTURAL FIRM.
AS YOU LOOKED AT THE AERIAL PHOTO EARLIER, YOU SAW THE PARKING LOT WAS IN THIS LOCATION.
THIS IS IN THE NEWER PARKING LOT.
ON THE LEFT HAND SIDE, WE WOULD BE ADDING TWO ROWS OF PARKING AS WELL AS THEN PLACING IN THE BUILDING RIGHT AT THAT INTERSECTION IN THIS LOCATION.
SO HOPEFULLY, DOES EVERYBODY KINDA UNDERSTAND THAT LOCATION WHERE WE'RE, WHERE WE'RE TALKING ABOUT AGAIN, 33 AND WOLVES, UH, JUST AT THE NORTHWEST CORNER, UH, THERE.
SO THAT, THAT WOULD BE THE BUILDING LOCATION THAT WE'LL BE LOOKING AT IF THE BUILDING OPTION IS CHOSEN.
INSIDE YOUR PACKET IS A DETAILED IMAGES OF, OF WHAT THAT WOULD POTENTIALLY LOOK LIKE.
AND I'M NOT GONNA GO IN THERE AND LOOK AT THE, THOSE DETAILS, BUT I WOULD DRAW YOUR ATTENTION TO, TO THIS MAP AND DRAWING.
IT'S A LITTLE FURTHER ABOVE WHAT THIS MAP DOES.
WAS IT, IT BROKE IT DOWN BY DIFFERENT COLORS, BY DIFFERENT, UH, AGENCIES, DEPARTMENTS, DIVISIONS THAT ARE IN THAT BUILDING AND WHERE THEY WOULD BE SITUATED.
I, I DO WANT TO THANK JULIE AND HER TEAM.
UH, THERE WAS MANY ITERATIONS GOING BACK AND FORTH, UM, ABOUT OUR TEAM, AND THEY HAD SEPARATE MEETINGS WITH THE
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ARCHITECT, WITHOUT THE ARCHITECT, UH, WITH OUR STAFF.UH, SO WE, WE CAME UP WITH THIS DESIGN THAT, UM, WHILE NOT PROBABLY PERFECT IN EVERYBODY'S MIND, UH, IT WAS A GOOD, UM, A GOOD EXERCISE.
AND I THINK EVERYBODY UNDERSTANDS THE PRINCIPLES.
SO IF I WILL, THE BUILDING HAS GOT ONE STORY THAT'S ON THE LEFT HAND SIDE.
AND THEN THE SECOND STORY WOULD ONLY BE ON THE NORTHERN, CALL IT HALF OR THIRD OF THE BUILDING WOULD'VE A SECOND STORY.
UH, IF YOU'RE FAMILIAR WITH THOSE SERVICES, A LOT OF THOSE SERVICES, THE PEOPLE THAT ARE COMING THERE, UH, IT'S, IT'S BEST THAT THEY COME IN AND STAY ON ONE FLOOR, UH, BETWEEN A DRC, VET SERVICES, THE HEALTH DEPARTMENT, AND EVEN SOME OF THE HUMAN SERVICES, IT'S, IT'S, IT'S BETTER THAT THEY'RE IN AT ONE FLOOR VERSUS HAVING TO GO UP AND DOWN ELEVATORS OR STAIRS AND, AND THE LIKE.
UH, SO ONE THING WE ALSO INCLUDED IN THE, IN THE BUILDING WAS, UM, AN OVERHANG TO COME INTO THE BUILDING.
ON THE LEFT HAND SIDE, UH, YOU'LL SEE BASICALLY AN OVERHANG.
IF YOU'RE FAMILIAR WITH THE SAMARITAN HOME, YOU CAN DRIVE UP, DROP YOUR LOVED ONES OFF, UH, UNDER THE PROTECTION OF A ROOF OR A CANOPY.
UH, IMAGINE IN WINTER OR RAINING CONDITIONS, AGAIN WITH THAT SIGN, SAME KIND OF CLIENTELE.
UH, SOMETHING THAT, UH, WE GOT A SEPARATE PRICE ON, UH, RIGHT NOW FROM OUR, FROM OUR ARCHITECTURAL FIRM.
INSIDE THE BUILDING, YOU WOULD ENTER THE BUILDING, THERE WOULD BE A RECEPTIONIST DESK RIGHT IN THE MIDDLE, A LARGE, UH, WAITING ROOM, UH, RIGHT, RIGHT BEHIND THAT, THAT WAITING ROOM WOULD BE TWO STORIES.
UH, SO UPPER STORY WOULD HAVE BE SURROUNDED BY GLASS, THAT TO GET NICE, SOME NATURAL LIGHT IN THERE FOR PEOPLE THAT ARE COMING IN.
AND THEN YOU WOULD BE, THE RECEPTIONIST THEN WOULD TALK TO, IF YOU'RE GOING TO A DRC VET SERVICES POTENTIALLY, OR ANYBODY ELSE, THEY WOULD HELP DIRECT YOU, BUT THEY WOULD ALSO CALL THE PERSON.
THEY WOULD COME AND GET YOU, KINDA LIKE A CLINIC SETTING.
I'M ASSUMING MOST EVERYBODY WHO'S BEEN TO A HEALTH CLINIC WHERE YOU SIT OUT IN THE LOBBY, THE RECEPTIONIST OR THE, THE, UM, WHERE NURSE OR SOMEBODY COMES AND GETS YOU.
SO SAME KIND OF CONCEPT HERE, UH, THAT ALSO PROVIDES A LEVEL OF SAFETY.
INSTEAD OF HAVING SOMEONE JUST COME BACK IN, GENERALLY IN THE OFFICES NOW, THEY CAN GO INTO A MORE OF A SECURE AREA BEFORE THEY GET THERE.
SO ALL YOU'D HAVE IS YOU'D BE ABLE TO COME INTO THE MAIN OFFICES.
AND I'M GONNA ZOOM IN HERE JUST A LITTLE BIT MORE.
AND SO WE PUT VET SERVICES RIGHT AT THE FRONT.
THAT'S THE PURPLE COLOR THAT YOU SEE THERE, A DRC RIGHT BEHIND THEM, THAT'S THE PINK OR SALMON COLOR.
UH, THE CONFERENCE SPACES WOULD BE THIS, UH, LIGHT GRAY OR GREEN COLOR, THE HEALTH DEPARTMENT BACK IN THE BLUE.
AND THEN VARIOUS HUMAN SERVICES DEPARTMENT, THERE'S A LOT OF DIFFERENT COLORS THERE.
UM, ON THE SOUTH SIDE OF THE BUILDING, THERE'D BE A SECOND RECEPTION AND BILLING IN THIS LOCATION, AGAIN, NEAR THE FRONT.
SO THEY'D BE ABLE TO CALL STAFF OUT.
THEY COME UP, GET THE PEOPLE THAT WOULD NEED THE SERVICES, ENTER THE DOORWAY, BRING THEM INTO EXAM ROOMS OR CON CONSULT ROOMS. BUT THEN A GENERAL STAFF WOULD BE, AGAIN, BEHIND THESE CLOSED DOORS.
SO EVEN IF SOMETHING HAPPENS OUT HERE AND PEOPLE ARE WANDERING AROUND, THEY'RE NOT GETTING INTO OFFICE SPACE OR CUBICLE SPACE AND THE LIKE.
SO IT'S KIND OF A, A SEPARATION, UH, BETWEEN THE, THE PUBLIC THAT IS USING THOSE OFFICES AND THE COLLABORATION ROOMS AND OBSERVATION ROOMS, UH, EXAM ROOMS, UH, AND THE GENERAL WORKFORCE THAT'S IN THIS LOCATION.
WE ALSO HAVE A SEPARATE ENTRANCE, EXCUSE ME.
NOT ONLY FOR JUST FOR STAFF, BUT IF THEY HAVE AFTER HOURS NEEDS OF THE POLICE OFFICERS TO BRING PEOPLE IN, UH, FOR CERTAIN NEEDS, THEY CAN COME IN HERE AGAIN.
UH, THEY HAVE A VESTIBULE AND A AND A WAITING ROOM OR HOLDING ROOM FOR THAT PARTICULAR FUNCTION.
SO YOU'RE NOT GOING THROUGH THE GENERAL PUBLIC.
AND THAT COULD HAPPEN ANYTIME OF THE DAY, I BELIEVE.
UH, SO THAT'S KINDA HOW THAT PART OF THE BUILDING IS LAID OUT.
AGAIN, THE BACK THE GRAY IS YOUR RECEIVING YOUR MECHANICALS AND, YOU KNOW, ALL THAT KIND OF FUN STUFF THAT, UH, STORAGE THAT, THAT A BUILDING NEEDS TO HAVE DATA CLOSETS AND THE LIKE.
AND THIS SAME PART WOULD HAVE A FLOOR RIGHT ABOVE IT.
AGAIN, A LOT OF THE MORE OF THE ADMINISTRATION ADMINISTRATIVE TYPE FUNCTIONS IN THAT FLOOR, AS WELL AS ANOTHER DEPARTMENT THAT DOESN'T SEE A LOT OF, UM, WALK-IN CLIENTS.
UM, BUT THEY CAN ALSO COME DOWNSTAIRS IF THEY DO TO, TO MEET THEM AND, AND STUFF.
SO THAT'S KIND OF THE, THE OVERALL BUILDING LAYOUT.
AGAIN, I DID INCLUDE THE, THE PLANS.
AND THIS IS, UH, UH, MAYBE I SHOULD PAUSE HERE, UH, FOR ANY QUESTIONS AND GET A DRINK OF WATER.
ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS FROM THE COMMITTEE AT THIS POINT? WELL, GOOD.
IT WAS A GOOD OPPORTUNITY FOR YOU TO CATCH YOUR BREATH.
UM, YOU SAID THAT THE, THE WAITING AREA THERE, THAT'S A TWO STORY.
IS THAT JUST, IT'S JUST OPEN OPEN FOR A SECOND.
SO IT'S NOT ACTUALLY TWO STAIRS, TWO STORIES, CORRECT? CORRECT.
IT'S, IT'S A SECOND STORY THAT'S OPEN AND I, I DIDN'T SEE ANY, I DIDN'T, I'M SURE I JUST MISSED IT.
WHERE'S THE ELEVATOR? I WILL ZOOM IN FOR YOU.
RIGHT IN THIS LOCATION RIGHT THERE.
SO WE HAVE A STAIRWELL AND, UH, WORKING WITH JULIE AND HER TEAM, UH, THEY DIDN'T WANT THE STAIRWELL LIKE PRONOUNCED, UH, LIKE AN OPEN STAIRWELL, SAY, HEY, PLEASE GO UPSTAIRS.
'CAUSE THEY GENERALLY DON'T WANT THE PUBLIC GOING UPSTAIRS.
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UH, THAT YOU SEE IN THIS LOCATION.SO THEY CAN STILL GO UPSTAIRS.
UH, WE HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT BADGES AND STUFF.
WE HAVEN'T GOTTEN TO THAT LEVEL OF DETAIL YET, BUT, UH, GENERALLY SPEAKING, UH, IT'D BE BEHIND A DOOR.
AND, UH, THE NEXT THING YOU SEE UP ON YOUR SCREEN IS, UH, SEVERAL RENDITIONS OF WHAT THE BUILDING WOULD LOOK LIKE IF YOU'RE IN THE PARKING LOT LOOKING EAST OR TOWARDS THE BUILDING.
AGAIN, I MENTIONED THAT CANOPY.
UH, THIS IS THAT, UH, TWO STORY, UH, HIGH, UH, WAITING AREA THAT YOU SEE HERE.
AND SO YOU CAN SEE THAT THERE'S A LOT OF NATURAL LIGHT THAT'S IN THIS BUILDING.
UH, IF YOU ALSO GO TO THE PUBLIC AGENCY CENTER.
AND I, LIKE I SAID, I HAVE MY OFFICE IN THERE.
THE WINDOWS ARE ALSO VERY NARROW, UH, AND VERY FEW THAT ARE IN THAT BUILDING.
SO AGAIN, BRINGS A LOT MORE NATURAL LIGHT, UH, INTO THE AREA.
THIS IS LOOKING AT THE BUILDING AGAIN FROM THE SOUTH.
IF YOU'RE DRIVING ALONG HIGHWAY 33, WHAT THAT WOULD LOOK LIKE.
THIS WOULD BE AS IF THE RIGHT HAND SIDE YOU'RE DRIVING IN AND PAST THAT BUILDING IS WHAT IT WOULD LOOK LIKE.
AND THEN IF YOU'RE AT THE CORNER OF ROLSON 33, WHAT THAT BUILDING WOULD LOOK LIKE.
SO JUST TO GIVE YOU KIND OF A RENDITION OF IT.
SO, UH, WE FEEL IT FITS IN VERY WELL WITH OUR GENERAL COLOR SCHEME AT THE COUNTY AND THE OTHER BUILDINGS THAT ARE NEAR IT ACROSS THE PARKING LOT.
UH, SO, UH, WITH THAT, UH, TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MIGHT HAVE ON THE, THE BUILDING ELEVATIONS, UM, THAT YOU MAY SEE.
THE OTHER THING THAT THE COMMITTEE BUILDING COMMITTEE LOOKED AT WAS THAT, UH, WHAT ABOUT A FUTURE MORGUE? WE'RE CURRENTLY USING THE MORGUE IN THE SAMARITAN, THE OLD, EXCUSE ME, EX SAMARITAN HOME.
AND SO WE'VE GOT A NUMBER FOR THAT COMMITTEE TO LOOK AT.
WHAT WOULD THAT WOULD LOOK LIKE TO, UH, BUILD OUT THE, THE, THEY CALL IT LIKE A WHITE BOX, BASICALLY BUILDING THE WALLS, UH, TO THE BUILDING.
UH, AND WE GOT A LOCATION FOR THAT POTENTIALLY.
UH, CURRENTLY WE'RE LOOKING AT KEEPING THE MEDICAL EXAMINER WITHIN THE SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT.
IT MAKES A LOT OF SENSE TO KEEP THOSE TWO DEPARTMENTS CLOSE BY AND TOGETHER TO WORK TOGETHER.
AS THE POLICE CHIEF MENTIONED ABOUT WORKING TOGETHER AND, AND LACK OF WALLS AND SILOS.
IT'S NICE THAT THEY ARE WORKING VERY WELL TOGETHER AND, AND KEEP THAT COLLABORATION GOING.
UH, BUT WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ACTUALLY, IF WE EVER NEED TO CREATE A MORGUE, WE DO HAVE A LOCATION THAT COULD GO.
ONE OTHER OPTION THAT WE DID PURSUE IS THAT, UH, WHAT WOULD BE THE COST BE IF WE TOOK THAT, THE SOUTH HALF OF THE BUILDING THAT'S ONLY A FIRST FLOOR AND REINFORCED THE ROOF ON IT, THAT WE COULD ADD A SECOND FLOOR TO IT AT SOME LATER DATE.
SO THAT NUMBER WAS ALSO PROVIDED TO THE BUILDING COMMITTEE TO LOOK AT.
AGAIN, YOU COULD SPEND SOME MONEY NOW.
UH, 'CAUSE DOING IT LATER ON TO RETROFIT A ROOF FOR, TO ADD A SECOND FLOOR IS, UM, ALMOST IMPOSSIBLE.
NOT IMPOSSIBLE, BUT A, A VERY BIG CHALLENGE
SO WITH THAT, I'M NOT GONNA GO THROUGH THE REST OF THE BUILDING PLANS UNLESS THERE'S SOME INTEREST TO, TO SEE ALL OF THOSE, BUT THERE'S ALSO THE ARTIST RENDITION VERSUS JUST THE KIND OF THE CAD DRAWING OF WHAT THAT, UH, THE DIFFERENT ELEVATIONS WOULD LOOK LIKE.
UM, IF I COULD JUST ADD, UM, I JUST THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO HIGHLIGHT, UM, THE COUPLE OF THINGS THAT WE WERE TRYING TO ACHIEVE WITH THE ARCHITECTS ON A POTENTIAL NEW BUILDING.
UM, ONE OBVIOUSLY AS SCOTT, UM, DISCUSSED WAS, IS SAFETY.
UM, RIGHT NOW THE CURRENT PAC, UM, WE REALLY HAVE NO IDEA WHO IS IN THAT BUILDING AT ANY GIVEN TIME.
UM, SO WE WANTED TO ADDRESS SAFETY AND MAKING SURE THAT IT WAS SAFE FOR NOT ONLY STAFF, BUT YOU KNOW, UM, OUR CLIENTELE THAT CAME IN.
UM, ALSO WANTING TO, UM, MINIMIZE THE AMOUNT OF WALKING THAT OUR ELDERLY AND DISABLED FOLKS CURRENTLY HAVE TO DO TO GET INTO THE SPACES OF WHERE THEY'RE RECEIVING SERVICES, WHICH IS WHY THAT BIG FIRST FLOOR DESIGN, EVERYBODY WANTED TO BE BY THE DOOR.
UH, BUT WE ACHIEVED SOMETHING PRETTY GOOD.
AND THEN I THINK THE THIRD THING THAT WAS VERY IMPORTANT TO US IS LIKE THE, IS WAS THE LOOK AND FEEL OF THE DESIGN IN THE BUILDING BECAUSE I'M A FIRM BELIEVER, UM, THAT, YOU KNOW, JUST BECAUSE, UH, FOLKS ARE COMING TO THE COUNTY TO RECEIVE SERVICES JUST BECAUSE THEY RECEIVE MEDICAID, UH, OR THEY HAVE MEDICAID INSURANCE AND THEY'RE COMING HERE TO SEE THEIR THERAPIST, OR THEY'RE COMING HERE TO SEE THEIR PSYCHIATRIST, OR THEY'RE WORKING WITH THEIR CHILD WELFARE PROGRAM AND THEY'RE TRYING TO GET THEIR CHILDREN BACK, UM, THAT THEY SHOULD STILL HAVE A, A GOOD LOOK AND FEEL OF AN ENVIRONMENT THAT THEY COME INTO TO RECEIVE THOSE SERVICES.
SO WE FEEL REALLY GOOD ABOUT THIS INITIAL DESIGN THAT WE PUT TOGETHER.
AS SCOTT SAID, IT WAS, UH, A LOT OF WORK AND A LOT OF, UM, A LOT OF PEOPLE'S NEEDS, UM, TRYING TO BE MET.
BUT, UM, I THINK THAT WE'VE ACHIEVED THOSE THREE THINGS IN THIS DESIGN.
AND SO I FEEL PRETTY PLEASED WITH IT.
AND THOSE ARE THREE REASONS ARE GOOD REASONS, BECAUSE I KNOW PEOPLE ARE GOING TO QUESTION WITH FAIR PARK SCHOOL BEING EMPTY AFTER THE SCHOOL YEAR, WHY WE WOULDN'T JUST USE THAT BUILDING.
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QUESTIONS TO THIS POINT? SUPERVISOR TR UM, WE HAVEN'T DISCUSSED IT, I DON'T THINK, BUT, UM, PARKING IS, IS THERE ENOUGH PARKING SPACE? AND UH, YES.OUR ARCHITECTURAL FIRM LOOKED AT THAT.
WE WORK WITH JULIE AND HER TEAM AND I ACTUALLY, UH, I THINK THEN THEY ACTUALLY WENT OUT IN THEIR PARKING LOT, DOESN SOME PARKING LOT COUNTS AS WELL FOR US, UH, JUST TO VERIFY THAT WAS THERE.
AND YES, UH, FOR THIS PARTICULAR USE.
AND WE'LL GET SOME OTHER OPTIONS TOO.
UH, WE'RE GOOD ON PARKING STALLS FOR THIS PARTICULAR USE.
UM, IF WE WANT TO ADD A SECOND FLOOR AND ADD A LOT MORE SPACE ON THERE, LIKE PUBLIC PRIVATE PARTNERSHIP OF ADDING LIKE APARTMENTS ON A SECOND FLOOR, ADDING INTO A THIRD FLOOR FOR APARTMENTS, THEN THE PARKING DOES NOT WORK AT THIS LOCATION.
BUT FOR CURRENT NEEDS, BASED ON WHAT WE HAVE RIGHT NOW, WE ALSO WORK WITH THE CLERK OF COURTS, UH, TO MAKE SURE, BECAUSE, AND ALSO OUR CURRENT BUILDING, BECAUSE WE MOVED, UH, THE GENERAL PUBLIC FROM ONE SIDE TO THE OTHER.
SO WE GOTTA HAVE GENERAL PUBLIC PARKING FOR THIS BUILDING THAT ARE COMING TO HERE FOR THE REGISTERED DEEDS, CLERK, TREASURER, NATURAL RESOURCES, UM, BUT ALSO THEN FOR COURT CASES.
SO, AND JURY, JURY, UM, TRIALS WHEN THOSE HAPPEN.
SO A LOT OF THE NUMBERS WENT INTO THIS TO MAKE SURE THAT WE DO HAVE ENOUGH PARKING.
UH, BUT THE GOOD THING IS THAT IF WE DON'T, FOR SOME REASON WE WERE OFF, UH, WE HAVE THE AREA NEAR THE OLD SALT, SALT SHEDS THAT WE CAN ALSO CONVERT TO PARKING RIGHT NOW WHERE THE OLD FUEL ISLAND WAS.
SO, OR PART OF IT ANYWAY, OVERFLOW.
'CAUSE I KNOW EVEN TODAY I PARKED ON THIS SIDE, WELL, WHATEVER SIDE RATHER THAN THE OTHER SIDE.
I, TWO COMMENTS AND A QUESTION.
UM, THE NATURAL LIGHT THAT'S GONNA COME IN THERE, THAT'S GONNA BE REALLY WELCOMING.
I THINK THAT'S A GREAT DESIGN FEATURE.
IN A SPACE LIKE THIS, THAT'S GONNA BE COOL.
UM, THE QUESTION THAT I HAVE IS MORE SO ABOUT, UM, IS THERE, IS THERE A, IS THERE A RESTROOM OR SOMETHING AVAILABLE IN THAT FRONT WAITING AREA THAT IS ACCESSIBLE? LET ME, LET ME ZOOM IN.
THAT SAME THING YOU DID AS WELL.
SO RIGHT OFF THE, THE LOBBY, YOU HAVE A, A FAMILY RESTROOM, A MEN'S RESTROOM, AND A WOMAN'S RESTROOM AND A MOTHER'S ROOM.
SO THAT'S NOT, THAT'S NOT CLOSED OFF AND I SEE, I SEE IT.
AND NO, WE HAVE DIFFERENT COLORS THERE, BUT THE YEP, THE CLOSED OFF CORRIDOR WOULD BECOME, UH, CALL IT DOWN THE HALLWAY A LITTLE BIT RIGHT BY A DRC AND THEN AS WELL AS THERE'D BE CONFERENCE ROOMS ON THE RIGHT SIDE DOWN THE HALLWAY AGAIN, SO THE GENERAL PUBLIC CAN GO FREELY DOWN THIS HALLWAY TO GET INTO THE CONFERENCE ROOMS. SO IF THEY'RE DOING A SEMINAR OR A TRAINING OR SOMETHING FOR THE PUBLIC TO COME TO, THEY CAN GET ALL THE WAY TO THOSE CONFERENCE ROOMS AS WELL AS TRAINING AND WELLNESS ROOM, UH, ELEVATOR.
SO THAT'S ALL OPEN TO THE PUBLIC.
AND THE, UH, OTHER COMMON QUESTION WAS JUST ABOUT, YOU TALKED ABOUT REINFORCING THE ROOF OVER THE, UH, THE SINGLE STORY.
IS THERE, IS THERE, I DIDN'T SEE ANY FINANCIAL NUMBERS OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT IN HERE.
DO YOU HAVE THAT? OH, WE'LL GET TO 'EM.
I WANTED TO GIVE YOU ALL THE INFORMATION WE POSSIBLY COULD.
UH, BUT YES, UH, IT'S NOT ON THIS PAGE, BUT WE'LL, WE'LL GET DOWN TO THAT SPREADSHEET.
I APPRECIATE THE QUESTIONS SUPERVISOR STEWART.
UM, I AGREE WITH SUPERVISOR MOLE ABOUT THE, UM, THE LIGHTING, NOT JUST IN THE ATRIUM IN THE, IN THE AREA, BUT THE ENTIRE BUILDING.
UM, WHEN I TOURED THE OLD BUILDING, THERE'S JUST SOME PLACES THAT ARE JUST LIKE, OH YEAH, THIS IS WHERE WE, UM, HELP NEW MOTHERS LEARN HOW TO BREASTFEED AND JUST SEE, YOU'RE LIKE IN, YOU FEEL LIKE YOU'RE AN IN DUNGEON, IT'S SO DARK.
UM, VITAMIN D SOMETIMES IS THE BEST MEDICINE.
SO I REALLY LIKE ALL THE LIGHTING THAT YOU'RE BRINGING IN HERE.
UM, JULIE, I DID WANT TO ASK YOU, UM, OR SCOTT, ARE ALL OF THESE SINGLE OFFICES, ARE ALL OF THOSE GONNA BE LOCKED FOR STAFF TO BE ABLE, LIKE IF SOMEONE WAS IN THE HALLWAY THAT SHOULDN'T HAVE BEEN, OR SOMEHOW ARE ALL THOSE OFFICES INDIVIDUALLY LOCKED OR, YEAH, SO IF YOU, UM, LOOK, SO THE, THE BOTTOM PART OF THE FIRST FLOOR, THAT'S GREEN AND YELLOW AND BLUE, THAT'S ALL MOSTLY BEHAVIORAL HEALTH SERVICES.
AND SO, UM, IN THE MIDDLE, THOSE GREENISH GRAY SPACES ARE, UM, CON CONSULTING ROOMS. AND SO PEOPLE WILL BE BROUGHT IN FROM THE LOBBY TO MEET WITH THEIR CASE MANAGER, UM, IN THOSE ROOMS FOR THE, WE DO FAMILY TEAM MEETINGS, WE DO CASE PLANNING MEETINGS, THOSE TYPES OF THINGS.
AND THEN ON THE RIGHT HAND SIDE, THE YELLOW, UM, THOSE ARE WHERE OUR THERAPISTS AND OUR PSYCHIATRISTS ARE.
AND SO AGAIN, PEOPLE WILL BE BROUGHT BACK INTO THAT SPACE, UM, THEN TO MEET WITH THEIR, THAT INDIVIDUAL PERSON AND THEN BE ESCORTED BACK OUT.
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THAT, THAT IS WHERE THAT WILL ALL BE LOCKED, AND THAT'S WHERE ALL THE OFFICES ARE.SO YOU SEE SORT OF THE, THE PERIMETER IS OFFICES AND THEN THAT OPEN SPACE BY THE EDGE OF THE BUILDING, THOSE ARE ALL GONNA BE CUBICLES FOR CASE MANAGERS AND, AND THAT TYPE OF THING.
AND ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I WAS PRETTY PLEASED WITH THE STAFF'S DECISION ON IS MAKING ALL THOSE CUBICLES TO THE FRONT OF THAT BUILDING BY THE WINDOWS, UM, SO THAT OUR STAFF ARE ALL GETTING THAT ACCESS TO WINDOWS.
'CAUSE YOU KNOW, IT'S TYPICAL TO BE LIKE, I'M THE SUPERVISOR AND I SHOULD GET AN OFFICE WITH A WINDOW.
RIGHT? UM, BUT THEY DID CHOOSE TO MOVE THEIR OFFICES OUT AWAY BECAUSE THEY'LL STILL GET THAT NATURAL LIGHT OVER THOSE CUBICLES.
UM, AND THEN IT CREATES MORE OF A TEAM ENVIRONMENT WHERE PEOPLE CAN SORT OF SEE WHO'S THERE AND WHAT'S GOING ON AND THAT TYPE OF THING.
BUT THAT, THAT WAS A, A BIT OF A, A PHILOSOPHICAL CONVERSATION WE HAD TO HAVE.
BUT SO I WAS, I WAS REALLY PLEASED AT THAT THEY MADE THAT DECISION, UM, TO DO THAT.
SO IN THAT WAY, BECAUSE IT DOES HAPPEN, AS I I KNOW, PUT PROBABLY WHAT YOU'RE INTIMATING IS, YOU KNOW, SOMEBODY'S IN A THERAPY SESSION, ESPECIALLY CHILDREN, UM, AND THERE'S A DIS YOU KNOW, THEY'RE DYSREGULATED AND THEY RUN OUT OF THE, THE ROOM.
AND SO CURRENTLY IN OUR CURRENT SPACE, THEY RUN OUT OF THE ROOM AND THEY HAVE ACCESS TO EVERYTHING.
UM, AND WE'RE TRYING TO, TO, TO GET THEM AND, AND GET THEM SORT OF SITUATED.
AND SO NOW IN THIS SITUATION, THEY WILL ONLY HAVE ACCESS TO THAT HALLWAY THAT THEY'RE IN.
SO THEY WON'T HAVE THAT ABILITY TO JUST GO ANYWHERE.
AND ARE YOU ALSO UTILIZING KIND OF A SIMILAR, UM, HYBRID WORK SCHEDULE THAT I NOTICED WHEN I WAS THERE? I LIKED, UH, YOU HAD TWO EMPLOYEES ALMOST SHARING THE SPACE.
ONE WAS HYBRID OUT, TAKING CARE OF WHAT NEEDS TO BE DONE THERE, AND THEN THE OTHER ONE WAS PHYSICALLY THERE.
UM, I LIKED HOW YOU UTILIZED IT THERE.
IS THAT SOMETHING YOU'RE GONNA HAVE TO CARRY OVER INTO HERE, OR DO YOU HAVE ENOUGH SPACE? SO, UM, A AND WHAT, UM, SUPERVISOR IS INTIMATING, IF YOU HAVEN'T BEEN TO THE BUILDING, IS CURRENTLY THE WAY THAT THE PAC IS DESIGNED.
EVERYBODY HAS AN OFFICE, UM, WHICH IS GREAT I GUESS, BUT, UM, IT'S, IT'S HARDER TO USE THE SPACE.
SO IN BEHAVIORAL HEALTH SPECIFICALLY, WE'VE HAD TO DOUBLE AND TRIPLE PEOPLE UP.
AND SO WE DO A LITTLE BIT MORE HYBRID OR PEOPLE ARE OUT IN THE COMMUNITY DOING VISITS, AND SO THEY'RE NOT ALWAYS IN THE OFFICE.
THIS CURRENT ITERATION WOULD GIVE EVERYBODY THEIR OWN CUBICLE SPACE, UM, SO THAT THEY CAN HA THEY WOULDN'T HAVE TO SHARE THAT SPACE.
BUT AGAIN, IT'S NOT THIS BIG OFFICE.
UM, AND SO, AND SO THERE'S STILL THE, A HYBRID WORK THAT HAPPENS.
UM, BUT IT, YOU KNOW, BUT IT'S MORE BECAUSE PEOPLE ARE OUT IN THE COMMUNITY AND THEY'RE, UM, THEY'RE DOING VISITS AND THEY'RE MEETING WITH PEOPLE ON THE SECOND FLOOR WHERE ECONOMIC SUPPORT STAFF ARE THAT DO, DO, UM, A 50%, UM, HYBRID.
UM, CURRENTLY THEY'RE SHARING, UM, AN OFFICE.
AND WHAT WE DID WAS WE CREATED THESE OFFICES WITH A WALL IN THE MIDDLE.
SO EVEN THOUGH IT'S A REGULAR SIZE OFFICE, THERE'S A WALL IN THE MIDDLE, AND SO THEY HAVE ABOUT A 60 SQUARE FOOT PERSONAL OFFICE.
SO THE DAYS THAT THEY'RE NOT IN THE OFFICE, UM, THEY STILL HAVE THEIR OWN SPACE SO THEY CAN PUT THEIR OWN PICTURES UP AND THEY DON'T HAVE TO SHARE KEYBOARD AND A MOUSE AND ALL THOSE THINGS.
UM, AND THEY DON'T HAVE TO WIPE IT DOWN EVERY DAY.
UM, AND SO THAT WAS OUR SOLUTION, UM, TO THOSE SHARED OFFICE SPACES THAT OUR ECONOMIC SUPPORT STAFF CURRENTLY USE.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? ALL RIGHT.
SO AS, AS PART OF THIS WAS, I KNOW WE, WE SPENT A LOT OF TIME TALKING ABOUT THE BUILDING, BUT THERE ARE OTHER OPTIONS THAT THE BUILDING COMMITTEE'S LOOKING AT AS WELL, AND I WANT, I WANNA MAKE SURE I'M JUST COVERING THOSE.
UH, THE FIRST THING THAT WE'RE, WE'RE LOOKING AT WAS A, TO CREATE A PUBLIC-PRIVATE PARTNERSHIP, UH, TO LOOK TO SEE IF WE INTEREST.
WHAT WE DID WAS WE PUT ON A LETTER OF INTEREST OUT THERE OR A REQUEST FOR LETTER OF INTEREST OUT THERE, UH, TO SEE IF ANY FIRMS WOULD BE INTERESTED IN PARTNERING WITH US TO BUILD A BUILDING AND MAYBE COHABITATE WITH IT SO WE COULD MAYBE CREATE A BUILDING WITH HUMAN SERVICES FUNCTIONS, BUT ALSO MAYBE HAVE RESIDENTIAL COMPONENT TO IT ON THE SECOND FLOOR OR THIRD FLOOR.
ALSO MAYBE HAVE THE FIRST FLOOR BE A LITTLE LARGER AND THEY COULD HAVE LIKE A BARBER SHOP OR HAIR SALON OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT COMMERCIAL TYPE OF STRUCTURE ON, ON THE FIRST FLOOR.
AND HOW WOULD THAT, THAT WORK AND HOW WOULD THOSE NUMBERS LOOK? UH, WE DID GET, UH, TWO RESPONSES BACK, ONE THAT WAS, UH, POSITIVE AND WE'VE BEEN WORKING WITH AMERICAN COMPANIES, UH, SINCE THAT, UH, CAME BACK, UH, TO SEE ABOUT WHAT THAT WOULD POTENTIALLY LOOK LIKE.
AS I MENTIONED EARLIER, THE SITE, UH, AT THE SOUTHEAST CORNER OF OUR PROPERTY DOESN'T REALLY LEND ITSELF TO A SECOND FLOOR, THIRD FLOOR AND APARTMENT COMPLEX.
YOU SAW THE PARKING'S ONLY ON ONE SIDE.
UH, AND SO IT DOESN'T REALLY WORK WELL.
WE COULD ADD ANOTHER PARKING LOT NORTH OF OUR DRIVEWAY, BUT AGAIN, IF YOU'RE HAVING AN APARTMENT BUILDING, YOU PROBABLY WANT A PARKING STALL CLOSE TO YOUR BUILDING, SO IT DOESN'T WORK REAL WELL.
SO THAT IS WHERE WE ACTUALLY LOOKED AT THE FAIR PARK SCHOOL, UH, SITE, AND YOU MIGHT SEE A RENDITION IN, IN YOUR PACKET AS WELL, IS THAT ONE SITE WE LOOKED AT SAYING, WELL, WE KNOW FAIR
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PARK SCHOOL IS GOING AWAY AT THE END OF THIS SCHOOL YEAR IN JUNE OR SO OF 2027.WHAT DOES THAT LOOK LIKE? AGAIN, WE DON'T OUTRIGHT OWN THE PROPERTY, BUT WE ARE WORKING WITH THE SCHOOL DISTRICT AND WHAT THAT POTENTIALLY COULD LOOK LIKE GOING FORWARD.
UH, SO WE LOOKED AT THAT SITE AS WELL, HOW THAT SITE WORK AND THAT SITE WOULD PROBABLY WORK FOR THAT WITH ENOUGH PARKING AND THAT, UH, COULD EVEN BE A HUMAN SERVICES BUILDING AS A STANDALONE BUILDING AND AN APARTMENT COMPLEX ON THAT SAME PARCEL OF LAND.
THAT'S ABOUT 10 ACRES OF LAND, UH, THAT, THAT ARE BACK THERE.
UM, I KNOW IT'S, IT'S HARDER TO ENVISION WITH A SCHOOL PLUNKED DOWN RIGHT IN THE MIDDLE OF IT, BUT IF YOU CAN IMAGINE PUTTING HUMAN SERVICES BUILDING ON ONE SIDE OF THAT, THAT PROPERTY, A APARTMENT COMPLEX, THE OTHER SIDE AND A LARGE PARKING LOT IN THE MIDDLE, IT WOULD WORK, UH, FOR THAT PARTICULAR PURPOSE.
UH, SO WE'VE BEEN WORKING WITH THEM ON WHAT THAT WOULD LOOK LIKE WHEN WE SAY PUBLIC PRIVATE PARTNERSHIP.
THEY WOULD CONSTRUCT A BUILDING OWN THE BUILDING AND LEASE OR RENT IT BACK TO US TO UTILIZE.
THERE'S CERTAIN BENEFITS TO THAT BECAUSE IF WE WANT TO EITHER EXPAND IN THE FUTURE, WE COULD MAYBE EXPAND, ESPECIALLY IF THEY ADD OTHER COMMERCIAL THINGS ON THAT FIRST FLOOR, WE COULD EXPAND IT.
OR IF OUR SERVICES IN 20 YEARS OR PLUS CONTRACT, WE COULD THEN LEASE OR RENT LESS SPACE.
SO THERE'S SOME BENEFITS TO THAT, UH, POTENTIAL.
UH, BUT WE'RE LOOKING AT THE NUMBERS AND STUFF, SO WE'LL TALK ABOUT THE NUMBERS IN A LITTLE BIT, BUT JUST LET YOU KNOW THAT THAT'S ONE THING WE'RE LOOKING AT, RIGHT.
THE TAX BENEFITS OF THAT TO HAVE A, A PUBLIC PRIVATE PARTNERSHIP.
UH, BUT THEN AGAIN, UH, YOU HAVE HOUSING MIXED WITH THE HUMAN SERVICES NEEDS.
SO, AND THE COMMITTEE HAS SOME CONCERNS ABOUT WOULD THAT BE ACTUALLY A GOOD FIT FOR THOSE TWO BEING, UH, SO CLOSE TOGETHER AND HAVING APARTMENTS RIGHT ABOVE, UH, HUMAN SERVICES FUNCTIONS, UH, IN A BUILDING.
SO, SO THE BUILDING COMMITTEE HAS LOOKED AT THAT AND WE'VE GIVEN SOME NUMBERS ON THAT AND CERTAINLY CAN, CAN TALK MORE ABOUT, THERE'S A LOT OF INFORMATION IN YOUR PACKET ON THAT.
UH, AS WELL AS, UH, AMERICAN COMPANIES, UH, ONE OF THEIR PROPOSALS AND LETTERS, AND WE GOT COST ESTIMATES ON THAT.
AND I'LL, I'LL GO INTO ALL THE COSTS THEN WHEN I GET TO THE COST SPREADSHEET.
UH, JULIE ALSO LOOKED AT A POTENTIAL PUBLIC AND NON-PROFIT PARTNERSHIP.
UH, BUT UNFORTUNATELY THE TIMING OF THAT JUST IS NOT WORKING OUT REAL WELL RIGHT NOW.
UH, I'M GONNA ADD ANYTHING ELSE TO THAT, BUT THAT'S, UM, NOT ONE OF THE OPTIONS THAT ARE CURRENTLY BEING FURTHER LOOKED AT.
UH, WE DID LOOK AT REMODELING AN EXISTING BUILDING OFFSITE.
UH, WE ALSO LOOKED AT, WHEN WE LOOKED AT THAT BUILDING, I WORK WITH THE SCHOOL DISTRICT.
IF YOU'RE NOT FAMILIAR, THEY OWN LAND.
AND I, I'LL SLIDE DOWN TO THIS SLIDE.
ARE YOU FAMILIAR WITH THE CITY WEST BEND, UH, SOUTH MAIN STREET, WEST DECOR, LEFT OR RIGHT? BADGER MIDDLE SCHOOL ON THE LEFT HAND SIDE, TRYING NOT TO CONFUSE ANYBODY OR GO TOO FAST, BUT IT'S TRYING GET YOU SITUATED WHERE YOU ARE.
UH, IN THE CITY OF WEST BEND, I WOULD SAY THERE'S A QUICK TRIP NEAR THERE, BUT THAT PROBABLY DOESN'T HELP YOU MUCH IN THE CITY OF WEST BEND 'CAUSE THEY'RE EVERYWHERE HERE.
UH, CEMETERY AT THE LOCAL, UH, AS WELL.
SO THEY HAVE TWO STRUCTURES, UH, THAT THEY'D BE LOOKING AT.
THEY'RE MOVING OUT INTO ANOTHER ONE OF THEIR BUILDINGS.
UH, SO WE LOOKED AT THOSE TWO BUILDINGS TO SEE IF THAT WOULD BE A POSSIBILITY TO REMODEL THOSE.
A COUPLE CHALLENGING IS THERE'S ONLY ABOUT 55,000 SQUARE FEET.
WE'RE, WE'RE LOOKING AT NEEDING AROUND 65,000 SQUARE FEET RIGHT NOW.
IT'S OBVIOUSLY OFF CAMPUS, SO ANY SUPPORT SERVICES LIKE IT, OUR PARK DEPARTMENT FOR PLOWING AS WELL AS, UH, FACILITIES NEEDS.
OBVIOUSLY IT'S NOT ADJACENT, SO WE'D HAVE SOME TRAVEL TIME TO GET TO AND FROM THOSE LOCATIONS, IF YOU'RE NOT FAMILIAR WITH THE BUILDING ON THE LEFT HAND SIDE, IF YOU'RE EVER HEARD OF A SPLIT LEVEL RANCH WHERE YOU COME INTO MAIN FLOOR, YOU EITHER HAVE TO GO UPSTAIRS OR YOU HAVE TO GO DOWNSTAIRS.
SO YOU CAN IMAGINE THAT THE, THE PARKING'S NOT REALLY CLOSE TO THE MAIN ENTRANCE.
NOT SAYING WE COULDN'T MOVE IT WITH SOME REMODELING.
UH, HOWEVER, UH, WHEN YOU COME IN THE BUILDING, YOU GOTTA GO UPSTAIRS OR DOWNSTAIRS.
AGAIN, WE TALKED EARLIER ABOUT THE CLIENTELE THAT USES THIS BUILDING NOT REALLY SET UP THAT WAY.
THE EASTERN BUILDING IS VERY SIMILAR.
UH, THE FRONT ENTRANCE, UH, YOU CAN GET TO THE MAIN FLOOR, BUT THE NORTH ENTRANCE IS, AGAIN, IT'S A SPLIT LEVEL.
YOU HAVE TO GO UP A COUPLE STAIRS TO GET TO THAT, THAT FIRST FLOOR.
AGAIN, WE COULD PUT A RAMP IN.
THE OTHER CHALLENGES AS UH, SUPERVISOR NER MENTIONED EARLIER IS PARKING STALLS.
UH, THIS IS DEFICIENT IN THE PARKING STALLS THAT WE WOULD NEED JUST FOR STAFF ALONE.
AND THEN OBVIOUSLY YOU NEED PARKING FOR CLIENTELE AND THERE IS SOME STREET PARKING IN THAT LOCATION.
UH, BUT I'M, I'M CERTAIN THAT THE PEOPLE IN THE RESIDENTIAL AREA PROBABLY WOULD NOT LIKE OUR STAFF PARKING IN FRONT OF THEIR HOUSES ALL DAY, EVERY DAY OR CLIENTELE NOT BE ABLE TO, TO, TO PARK THERE.
SO, UH, THAT OPTION, UM, DOESN'T LOOK REALLY LOOK REAL PROMISING.
UH, BUT IT IS ONE THING THAT WE LOOKED AT.
UH, WE ALSO ARE LOOKING AT REMODELING OF THE PUBLIC AGENCY CENTER ITSELF SAYING, ALRIGHT, WE HAVE AN EXISTING STRUCTURE.
IT'S A LITTLE OVER 30 YEARS OLD.
WHAT WOULD THAT COST TO ACTUALLY REMODEL THAT STRUCTURE? UH, WE'VE GOT SOME NUMBERS THAT WE'LL, WE'LL SHARE WITH YOU SHORTLY ON THAT.
UH, BUT IT DOESN'T ADDRESS A LOT OF THE POTENTIAL SECURITY CONCERNS.
LIKE WE COULD TAKE A DRC, WHICH IS BACK IN THE CORNER RIGHT NOW AND MOVE 'EM UP TO WHERE THE NATURAL RESOURCES IS.
BUT IF PEOPLE ARE USED TO GOING ON THE MAIN FLOOR TO A DRC, NOW THEY'RE ON THE SECOND FLOOR GOING UP.
AND IF YOU TALK TO VET SERVICES, THERE ARE STILL PEOPLE THAT COME TO THIS BUILDING, UH, THAT, THAT ARE LOOKING FOR VET SERVICES AND THEY HAVEN'T BEEN HERE IN
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THREE YEARS.NOW FOUR, SORRY, TIME FLIES,
UM, AND SO THERE'S SOME CHALLENGES WITH REMODELING, BUT THAT'S NOT TO SAY IT, IT COULDN'T BE DONE, BUT WE WANTED TO LOOK AT THOSE NUMBERS.
AND AS WE TALKED EARLIER, UH, CONSTRUCTING NEW BUILDING IS ALSO ONE OF THE OPTIONS THAT WE WERE LOOKING AT.
SO, UH, THE, CURRENTLY THE BUILDING COMMITTEE HAD US LOOK AT, UH, THOSE NUMBERS GOING OUT 20 YEARS AND, UH, WHAT THEY HAVE ASKED FOR IN THAT 20 YEAR COMPARISON.
UH, THAT'S ON THE SECOND TO LAST PAGE OF THE PACKET, UH, IS A SPREADSHEET.
AGAIN, WHAT WE DID IS WE LOOKED AT A 20 YEAR WINDOW.
THE BUILDING COMMITTEE HAS ASKED US TO COME BACK TO THEM ON OCTOBER 6TH WITH A 30 YEAR WINDOW AND WHAT THAT WOULD LOOK LIKE.
SO WE'RE CURRENTLY EFFORTING TO GET THAT BECAUSE OF POTENTIAL FUTURE MAINTENANCE COSTS, UH, GOING FORWARD.
SO WITH THAT, FOR THE 20 YEAR COMPARISON, THE PUBLIC PRIVATE PARTNERSHIP, IF WE WERE TO BUILD A NEW BUILDING, UM, THAT THEY WOULD OWN, WE WOULD LEASE FROM THEM, UH, LET'S JUST SAY THE FAIR PARK SCHOOL SITE.
IF WE COULD COME UP WITH A COMPROMISE ON THAT.
UH, SO WE GOT $69 MILLION WOULD BE THE LEASE COST OVER THOSE 20 YEARS, THERE WOULD BE NO MAINTENANCE COST.
'CAUSE YOU IMAGINE IF YOU'RE LEASING A BUILDING, THINK LIKE WHEN YOU RENT A HOME, RIGHT? YOU, YOU'RE NOT PAYING TO REDO THE, THE FURNACE AND THE AIR CONDITIONING, STUFF LIKE THAT.
UH, UTILITY COSTS WE ESTIMATE ABOUT $3 MILLION 'CAUSE WE WOULD STILL BE RESPONSIBLE FOR UTILITY COSTS.
AND WE SAY TAX REVENUE, THAT MEANS WE'RE TURNING THE PAC INTO NEXT GENERATION HOUSING.
SO THERE'LL BE TAX REVENUE COMING BY REMOVAL OF THE PAC.
I WANNA MAKE VERY CLEAR THAT 9.4 MILLION OVER 20 YEARS IS FOR ALL TAXING ENTITIES THAT NOT JUST THE COUNTY PORTION.
UH, WITH THAT WE DON'T HAVE, IF THE SCHOOL WANTS TO CHARGE US FOR THAT LAND, THAT'S NOT INCLUDED IN THERE YET.
THAT'S ONE THING I'M WORKING ON.
WE WOULD OBVIOUSLY HAVE TO DEMOLISH THE BUILDING, UH, BEFORE WE COULD BUILD A NEW BUILDING.
THAT COST IS NOT IN THERE AS WELL.
SO JUST UNDERSTAND THAT THIS WAS HIGH LEVEL NUMBERS FOR THE BUILDING COMMITTEE TO FIRST LOOK AT.
WE WERE NOT ASKING THEM FOR A DECISION BASED OFF OF THESE NUMBERS AT THAT MEETING.
WE MADE THAT VERY CLEAR TO THEM.
WE'RE ASKING THEM FOR ADDITIONAL, UM, QUESTIONS FOR US.
WE HAVE THE NUMBERS IN THERE FOR REMODELING THE OFFSITE BUILDING.
AGAIN, WE HAVE SOME BLANKS IN THERE.
AGAIN, WE DID NOT TALK TO THE SCHOOL DISTRICT WHAT THE PURCHASING PRICE WOULD BE, SO WE WANNA MAKE SURE WE'RE UPFRONT WITH THE BUILDING COMMITTEE SO THEY KNOW THERE'S SOME GAPS IN THE NUMBERS AS WELL.
UH, REMODELING THE, THE PUBLIC AGENCY CENTER.
WE DID HAVE OUR ARCHITECTURE FIRM LOOK AT THAT.
WE COMPARED THEM TO THE NUMBERS IN THIS BUILDING THAT WE'RE UTILIZING.
SO THOSE NUMBER, THE NUMBERS WERE A LITTLE MORE, UM, FIRM ON.
SO ABOUT $23 MILLION TO REMODEL THE BUILDING.
ABOUT $10 MILLION FOR BORROWING COSTS IF WE WE'RE TO BORROW THAT MONEY.
UH, THE MAINTENANCE COST IN A PUBLIC AGENCY CENTER, AGAIN, A LITTLE HIGHER 'CAUSE WE OWN THE BUILDING.
UH, WE GOT UTILITY COSTS BECAUSE IT'S AN OLDER BUILDING, UH, MORE SO THAN RENTING A NEW BUILDING.
AND THEN THE TAX REVENUE, IF THE PAC STAYS, WE OBVIOUSLY ARE CAN'T HAVE TAX REVENUE TO HAVE A, A HOUSE RIGHT WHERE THE PAC IS CURRENTLY SITTING.
AND I'LL SHOW YOU WHAT THAT, THAT BUILDING FOOTPRINT COULD LOOK LIKE.
AND THEN WE HAVE THE COST OF CONSTRUCTING A NEW BUILDING, UH, ROUGHLY $40 MILLION.
AGAIN, WE'RE STARTING TO SQUEEZE THAT DOWN A LITTLE BIT IF WE CAN.
BORROWING COSTS, MAINTENANCE COSTS.
AGAIN, YOU HAVE A BRAND NEW BUILDING OVER 20 YEARS.
YOU'RE NOT REPLACING ALL THE HVAC AND ALL THAT KIND OF STUFF IN 20 YEARS.
NOW, WHEN WE GET TO THE 30 YEAR WINDOW, WE'LL START LOOKING AT WHAT THOSE COSTS WOULD BE FOR REPLACE THAT.
THAT'S WHY YOU SEE THE MAINTENANCE COSTS FOR THE PUBLIC C CENTER BEING HIGHER THAN MAINTENANCE COST OF A BRAND NEW BUILDING.
THINK ABOUT IF YOU BOUGHT A BRAND NEW HOME VERSUS BOUGHT A HOUSE THAT'S MAYBE 35 YEARS OLD.
YOU KIND OUR STANDARDS, DIFFERENT MAINTENANCE COSTS GOING FORWARD.
AND AGAIN, THE TAX REVENUE, AND I'LL JUST TALK ABOUT THAT TAX REVENUE RULE SHORTLY UP ON THE SCREEN I WAS PUT TOGETHER BY OUR COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT TEAM.
THE, THERE IS A, I'LL CALL IT A RING ROAD THAT GOES AROUND THE PAC.
AND YOU SEE THAT'S LOOKING AT A, A STREET THAT WOULD KIND OF CONTINUE AROUND THAT ROAD IS, SO BASICALLY IF YOU KEPT THE PAC, YOU COULD STILL CREATE THE, THE DWELLINGS ON THE EAST SIDE OF THE PUBLICATED CENTER BETWEEN US AND THE SAMARITAN AS WELL AS IN THE, THE FARM FIELD AND COMMUNITY GARDEN ON THE SOUTH SIDE IF THEY SO DESIRE TO DO THAT.
AND SO THAT'S THE TAX REVENUE WITHIN THAT AREA THAT WE WOULD FOREGO OR GET DEPENDING ON WHAT HAPPENS WITH THE PUBLIC AGENCY LAND.
SO JUST WANNA SHOW THAT DRAWING OF YOU AND SAYING, WELL, WHY IS IT HALF THE MONEY? IF YOU LOOK AT IT GOING, WELL, IT'S ROUGHLY HALF THE UNITS AND ACTUALLY DEED EARLY.
AND OUR TEAM, I DID A NICE JOB OF BREAKING OUT THOSE, UH, TAX REVENUE SCHOOLS AND JUST SCOTT SAYING 50 50, THEY ACTUALLY HAVE THE TAX.